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Maira Michael Mobile on our life from here at the Android 30 booth at CES 2018 okay we're just gonna be chilling here if you have any questions for us I am checking on the live stream here and before you guys even ask yes I do have my phone on a brand new DJI Osmo mobile too so look forward to a little bit of talk about this in a bit and I drove my vlogging rig there's a reason why I have these here in any case I have a coffee that I got from the front and there's a reason why that's there so speaking of what should be the start of the day which is coffee but what did you do today I remember you saying you were gonna be excited to talk about this on our on the camera I am but only very briefly because it is only the most tangentially related tech thing ever Huawei basically said sup you want to come on a helicopter ride and take some photos at the Grand Canyon with a mate 10 Pro and I'm like yeah I guess that sounds fine I'm so jealous it you should be I I would not gonna lie to you there's a beautiful day for flying there was a very low ceiling so we were over the clouds in a helicopter which is kind of a rare thing was a lot of overcast or no just the perfect amount to make the photos really pop and I'm we we landed at the bottom of the Grand Canyon and had ourselves a little picnic what took some more photos it's had a small amount of champagne and then got back in the bird and took back off and the only price I had to pay for any of this of course was leaving the watermark on the photos with the huawei phone you can eat what they actually told you to yeah so with the like of photos you with the like of branded Huawei phones you drop the watermark on there in the retail software this isn't even just like a review unit they up normals can do this like watermark on it's like like a code Huawei whatever and I was like yeah that's fine oh that's very very small price to pay for a wonderful time and you know what the phone did pretty well and yes if you see his photos Huawei from them that would be shady they're up on Instagram actually their head the mr. mobile on the Instagram there you go well how long did it take you get to drive out there oh we just got the limo to the airport waited we played Jenga while we were right yeah it gets to a point where the word humble leaves the word humble bhrastika just got a we got the suitcases full of gold bars and put him in now that sounds awesome it was it was really terrific and what did they have you used for the pictures so was the mate 10 Pro ok the recently announced for the US not announced on a carrier but I guess that's not something we're talking about today I have to talk about that it's still gonna be available in the US like are you excited to see the may 10 Pro make it to these shores yes not as excited as it would have been if it was going to sell in the volumes that it would if it were in a carrier store it's true because it's always more and I was thinking about this at the the keynote right where it was sort of there was a carrier announcement that was very absent yes and we all expected it and I was thinking why am I so bummed out and or angry about this because I was I was like and I shouldn't I'm not on anybody's side I'm not I'm not a spokesman for anything you know the horse of the race right but I think it's because it's more fun for me to cover stuff that's going to get into a lot of hands and get into a lot of pockets because you can start the dialogue with people who are actually owning the phone yeah like normal people not that I don't love talking to other phone nerds like me but but it's really nice when you're covering something and people are like what is that I'm like oh it's this and they're like oh I've heard of that yeah I was thinking of it and you can have that conversation rather than like yeah the how wait what how do you say that you know yeah well we we've obviously given the May 10 Pro plenty of accolades I did win smartphone of the year from from 2017 are you serious lol that's awesome but right above I guess we'll call them honorable mentions what the 1 + 5 t was in the running and then of course the Galaxy Note 8 so why was it fun of the Year fun of the yet well cuz all around an hour because we did a lot of very stringent testing it was more data driven so on data driven had great battery life they had a wonderful camera and it was just basically was like okay and the camera testing it was basically neck-and-neck with the pixel if I remember oh man yeah principle difference being that the pixel gets better the more photos you take Google photos get smarter every whatever you know it's not necessarily something that that testing actually sort of takes into account that's the trouble yes with the lab testing right because yeah and and this is the thing right like I get some heat sometimes for not doing almost any lab stuff it's almost entirely really here they give you they give you flak for that on occasion and and rightfully so because if people come to come to miss trouble looking for a review.com style review they're not gonna get it yeah and I go to like I go to reviewed labs and they've got intense amounts of equipment that I'm categorized stuff down to like the micron and this sub nits and all this kind of and I'm like this is amazing and that's entirely a different format from what I usually do and what you usually do yeah so that's cool they changed up the format yeah well I mean I actually don't have too much of a hand in it because what I wanted to be was right yeah well on a personal note we do have that kind of testing but I did want to make sure that we including myself would be giving our opinions as to what our picks of the year were yeah yeah may 10 my temper would have been a would have been at the top of my list I feel like the top I'd like top 5 but I have to admit something I couldn't do that because I did not review this this is actually the most I've held this phone really yeah I haven't had a whole lot of time with the mates in pro what a shame yeah and you have the blue one which everybody is so enamored with it does look great doesn't I now I don't want to I feel like cuz I'm already like coming from the helicopter thing so I'm already feeling a little like I'm like oh he's just he's such a shoe for free well I'm not gonna talk about any more I'm going to review it in a week though Oh a weaker said okay there you go yeah cuz I haven't held the review until us availability Oh fair and I thought it was gonna be a much bigger splash okay yeah ahead Richard you on the other day and he my one of my favorite speakers yeah well obviously it wasn't really able to talk about even the word carrier was like kind of a kind of a thing there yeah but we can tow it like it was it seemed genuine to him that he was he's upset that you know absolutely and rightfully so I mean anybody out there who hasn't tried a huawei phone I mean you're probably seeing a lot of the ads all around the place what's the campaign that they're running away the phone that you never the best phone you've never heard of which you know what there's there's a tiny bit of claim to that I'd say it's a it's a rather clever campaign it is and it should come as no surprise because one of the people heading it up or possibly the person heading it up came from Samsung back when they were doing the next big thing is here yes and that was a very memorable campaign as well so you know well you know it'll be exciting to see what happened not to keep on while wait for to mark where you are you are formerly known as captain two phones yeah you basically are still about yeah well yeah at least yeah so your other phone the pixel 2x pixel do you except I'm gonna call away that I wanted for so long yeah I do quite like it mainly of course for the camera and David David Cogan has a meeting and can't come we knew that before we went on the air yeah I'm Locker and we were hoping to have him on David Koch in his name unfortunately not the case can I complain about my picks up to excel for Tuesday aren't you going to ask any of these because I'm using it it's on the mall on the Osmo I don't want to take it out yet but yeah I was gonna ask if you had any of these issues that have been was talking about what display issues yeah not really I mean I do but I don't care about them my issue is I have a busted OAS module on the camera so occasionally I'll be shooting and you know the pixel is known for that epic image stabilization especially in video but I'll be shooting with this one and something will make the oh I addressed that will address the OAS module and all of a sudden it'll get Wiggly eyeball for like three seconds so I'm like what we should I I want to see an example of this not necessary right now I'll show it to you oh yeah I have plenty of examples of it but otherwise it's it's it's my favorite phone camera ever okay yeah I agree as well I think I've been taking so many selfies front-facing camera is just bonkers dude I intentionally tried to defeat it in Hawaii right where I had the Sun behind my head yes and I took a selfie and I was like no way are you gonna get any color out of this and the other phone I was using at that point did not make anything of it I was a silhouette and it was a white blown out sky the pixel made a photo that I actually wouldn't have minded sharing exactly I did the same thing last night with my girlfriend who's here we went to the Las Vegas sign it was like 1:00 in the morning yeah and it's it's blown out like you you tap on the sign you can't see us you tap on us the sign is just like it's like God is looking down at us yeah but it still made a photo that I'm gonna share probably tomorrow or the next day after we leave that's the amazing thing right you take your shot with the pixel then you go into the gallery and it's like processing hold on and you're like oh this is gonna be crap and then it all of a sudden makes yeah a beautiful painting that you're in the middle of it alright so speaking of more recent things sorry go TX I just made a comment about your Mamata watch Oh No and said that it's stunning and I remember you saying it's pretty I love it thank you even though I had no hand in designing it and it's not even mine my company bought it but it's I I adore it it is my favorite Android wear watch in terms of design and I I wear it all the time did you get a look at Skagen no somebody told me to go look at it though is it beautiful I do like it a lot that minimalistic design and there's something that Skagen did to the software what they would say is they stripped away a lot of the pre-installed stuff they didn't want it to have bloatware of any cons Android wear to that oh okay and there were watch faces or very Spartan and it's just like align with the time and just like your next appointment very very Danish like that they said very Danish very Danish design yes and it's also incredibly smooth how much as if it's $2.99 don't call me on that I need to double check we do have a video on it I just so you can check it out that's my thing with this this is a giant bouncing around nonsense tornado that you get caught up and if you try and look at the logic of it cuz this is 595 start right and anyone who's gonna pay that much for a SmartWatch first of all it's like these don't age well yeah secondly it's Android wear 2x which i think is a really garbage platform and I think it's really broken Android wear needs a huge makeover here's the thing it was going it was kind of an okay platform sorry and then it got it got a makeover into something much worse I think well what made it worse there are just these tiny little usability things like if you're listening to a podcast or a song and you want to check the time you will see the time for two seconds no not even two seconds before the album art for what you're listening to eclipse is the time if the timer goes off and you're not you don't have a rotating side button the timer zone notification logo gets in the way of the style for the time I do remember that mind blowing Lee kind of kind of not smart and what the design of that watch it does like hardware almost makes it oh okay I know you know and I'm sorry the end of the logic tornado is this isn't meant to compete with a fossil at 250 oh it's meant to compete with like Louis Vuitton at 2990 no you know like it's it's it's that kind of thing and you can argue which one looks better but I this is I do think it looks pretty great move Otto did you see any other smart wearables at all while here I don't think that I did know most of my stuff I even branched into smart home a little bit with that Google that Lenovo smart display yeah what did it take on all that like because smart displays are one thing I mean they're two different stories here smart displays are kind of a quote unquote new category right but we also have Google assistant and Alexa just going nuts on everybody so we're getting assistance all over the place also I just found out that Alibaba has an assistant really yeah doesn't doesn't doesn't understand English which is why we've never used it you know what's so funny is my initial thought so that was like well that's absurd they're a retailer right they're a massive retailer but then of course that's what Amazon it exactly I don't know I guess I don't think that's weird anymore yeah yeah no I think I've never plugged in any of the Google homes that I have I have never used them wise because while I have come to become comfortable with the phone always listening for a key phrase that ok Google sorry an ok G key phrase we're hey G now yeah I don't know I just didn't really see the need for it I'm really mobile cheeky yeah but I at home as well like I said this when I was reviewing those Bose wearable speaker things like even at home I don't stay in the same room for like five minutes um let's just run it around all the time so I'd have to have like five Google homes in my place and I'm just I always have my phone on me we've just already done them for me we also have a ton of wearable tech that is getting Google assistant oh yeah I'm gonna feel like I'm one of the only proponents for the pixel buds and what they do like I know a lot of people kind of crap on them a little bit they don't sound like other headphones or the design might be odd yeah the execution is just not very good but the execution of Google assistant on it I think it's the best of any Google assistant ever why because when you're holding on there one of the most annoying things about Google assistant I have to say and I'm happy I'm saying this on camera is um when you say Haji or something like that and it's listening for your voice it also has to do the work of figuring out when you stopped talking oh yeah sure and and maybe half the time it doesn't do a good job of it right so you want to push the talk you don't want to push the talk and is that what the pixel but zero you do really and it's great so I think you there's a service that I think you would really like it's called Samsung Bixby you gotta you gotta keep holding the button down while you're talking to it yeah but I do like that about are genuinely speaking okay fair Bixby is the butt of a lot of jokes yeah I do like that you just push the child having a tactile response being able to let go of the pixel bud and then it does the chime he knows exactly what I said because it's not trying to figure out if someone next to me you're still talking yes and if you have if you live with someone or have someone in your life who is who is good at this you kind of know it I think it's maybe 5% of the audience but it's like that person who when they're around picks the exact wrong moment during your google key phrase to start talking to you about something oh yeah so it's like what time is Star Trek on tonight oh did you see the thing about that other thing that in the food what do you want for dinner yeah we're starting to see that more often that a Google assistant is going into headphones so this is merging of the two yeah like you see their device yeah well yeah speaking of CES 2018 I do want to ask the question that we've asked pretty much I'm sure you've asked a lot of people this question what happened or highlights of this show oh man everyone's talking about it we don't have to talk about it forever the thing that the takeaway the thing that sticks in my mind the most is the under display fingerprint scanner open synaptic I do on the repo fund you like it right I mean it's going to change the way these are designed and maybe not a way that's immediately noticeable to to most folks but it's gonna let manufacturers put a ton more display on the on the front of the thing yes unless they would have formerly put their fingerprint sensor on the back and now since that doesn't have to be there you got more space for battery you've got more space for you don't have to do what Samsung didn't put it in an utterly unreachable location yeah right now cameras yeah so like it's it's it's fantastic that way and it's just so cool from a sci-fi perspective you know it's like projects the thing on the screen I get that a lot of people were hoping that the entire screen would be a sensor of course my eCourse just a small portion on the bottom again we have another video on this as well I'm sure you do is what I do as well um so just that little section on the bottom that shows a fingerprint well I thought would be funny is what if that was your actual fingerprint was showing there would be savage that would be bad when we get it up could it gonna no LED screen I don't think you get the resolution right not quite as much yeah but I did think it was a good concept and I love that the vive phone that they put it on like this it's like a concept phone like no one can talk like what's the name of this one they're like yeah but it is coming to market yeah anything else eh you are really into it uh you know I don't want to talk about the razor thing because it's just like I feel like it's been talked to death it probably suck but it is really cool that well how about the concept itself the concept itself is still never not going to work in large volume because if you build a dock like the the razor duck where you drop your razor phone into this laptop dock and it becomes the left satisfying sound oh yeah push a button and it actually drills the USBC board like into the phone so flat so there's no margin of error but here's my thing like that concept is has been tried over and over again and until Android is really good and you can make that stuff for really cheap so that people don't want to just buy a $500 actual laptop and you know it's never gonna work but the execution of this one is so smart yeah the speakers on the razor phone were so loud already several reviews maybe me included said this is louder than some laptops yeah so there are no laptops I don't want to leave their small Bluetooth speakers makers yeah oh you speak small Bluetooth speakers behind you don't need the little pill anymore you can just bring that phone blast it yeah and so you know that the doc doesn't have speakers you drop it in there it doesn't have a fingerprint scan it scanner because that sticks out the side of the laptop thing because it's already on the phone it's just such a well engineered cool thing old friend of mine and Julian do you think razor is shooting itself in the foot if the next major phone doesn't have the exact same size that's the first one right and I think that's only a concern if this thing actually comes to market yes and what we know about razor is that like CES is where they come to play and they're like we need something that's gonna get a big crowd around the booth I just hope they don't have the same story that they had last year you remember with without the three yeah that was the one where the the triple display laptop got actually stolen yes it lifted all of them from the booth yes well I probably haven't actually seen it on that and you know it was utterly impractical and huge it was but I did love checking it out like then that's what they think I think sometimes you and I will will cover like what we perceived to be a boring trade show like he'll be an off-year and there's nothing really cool so when companies come like this and they even if they never bring it to market they're just like we build this crazy thing you want to see it yeah I think that's a lot of fun yeah I definitely agree well you know what playing around with that razor project windows what's called yes laying around project Linda it just made me want a razor blade to be honest because I'm really I'm kind of in the market for a new laptop and then when I was using that with the chroma keyboard in the way it was just very well made I was like huh man that yeah Iseman do I wanna spend $1400 or $2,900 on the laptop right now yeah there is a lot to consider there I am susceptible to the to that like multicolored key thing that is the chroma system it's so anybody who's in the PC game right now is like I've been done to death though I know I know but I've never had I've been on Mac books for seven eight years and I'm used to edit on the air I did and I ran that thing into the ground that thing I'd like black soot marks where the fan was oh yeah yeah but I'm I don't want to talk about the nude I don't want to talk about that as I hate my new MacBook so hard really yep well we don't alert Bob it's the worst minutes worst like whatever he did here here first yeah all right well I mean for myself I do agree with those two and we did take a look at this humongous a Seuss that that huge 65 inch Android TV yeah it doubles as a gaming monitor because it has 120 Hertz yeah refresh rate on it uh-huh yeah quad HD I mean like 4k sorry it was 4k but it's quad sync I'm try remember what the actual term was and remember these buzzwords are the buzzwords but supposed to be like it's just a pull double time you would be able to have it as your gaming PC or gave me a PC monitor you'll be able to have it as your PC monitor in general you can use it as a regular TV and it has a video shield built in oh really yeah I love the video shoe I have never touched it or seen it in the real life yeah ever get into putting Android TV like okay this way this way if you can spare the money from a chromecast to an end to us to an Nvidia shield get the shield the shield Howard it has chromecast on there and it's already beautiful so but I also wanted to ask you a couple of things about your your setup I have a couple of things here because your Instagram actually kind of shifted a little while back yeah someone recently and you're also you're also kind of impeccable on social we've talked about this before like your snapchat game is always so fun no you're not really honest I'm Jonny mom don't say that you know cuz cuz you sitting in then tonight I'm gonna do something stupid I'm gonna tweet to the wrong account that I'm just that's it scandal I'm not really on snapchat as much as I used to be but I remember when I would see him on snapchat there's always fun stuff he's it's actually humorous oh and now I drew story is this kind of where you kind of have that that content lane but his Instagram is now sort of like I don't want it's a news channel but it's yeah but it's a sub news channel right it kind of is it's like well it's just a fun tech stuff channel right and I've been watching Reggie stories so that's why I wanted to ask what your opinion might be on a tool like this oh yeah so we have here the DJI Osmo mobile - and I know you love the Osmo mobile first even some of your actual content on your channel loved it yeah so I want to have you played with it I have not played with this yet thank you yes I can instantly feel why it's cheaper it was made lighter and I do really appreciate that the plastic though like the old the first gen has this rubber grip that reminds you that you're using a piece of camera equipment and this feels more like a I buy at a store that's a toy yeah but you do have the battery indicator on the stock now I see yes is the app any better or is it using a beta version of the app because it's not released yet for the Osmo - mobile right okay so it is a beta app the active tracking goes a little nuts I'm not gonna lie yeah if I had it tracking you right now and then you walked away it would follow you but then it would have like separation anxiety and start shaking right see I mean I I like this a lot I like that the price point is down I think that's that's much more reasonable yeah but that's that that's kind of the thing for me is that that's the DJI story like amazingly great hardware software someone asked me just even like 20 minutes ago right before we streamed yeah that would just be vlogging Rick I'm like nah this is more like my ig stories ring sure so showing all that because after all this is my yeah yeah yes it's a lot more cumbersome but this is great for social that's what I it is but here's the thing menu with a phone you have in that is a pixel and the pixels video stabilization is so good on the rear sure Oh first for the village yeah it's in portrait mode right now would you the original Ozma was not able to do uh is that true well you weren't able to go like that yeah you could like switch it yeah but this is you know go like yeah gangster style uh social yeah well you can have it this way and it's a lot more it's more convenient it is yeah yeah and it did they do it in a hardware way it's not part of the app or anything you just unscrew this and then you can rotate that's nice so one one fewer point of failure yeah exactly and it's also a spring so you could just it's a clamp USB see charging that no it's micro again micro again can this stop can we stop with the micro USB stuff it's gonna get to a point especially later in 2018 where you don't have USB see it immediately makes us think a little less of it no it's not going to get to that point it got to that point and now we're past it it's January what generate twelve I don't have a minimalist watch face it's not telling levin eleven yes it's been 11 days since I'm over microUSB I'm sorry and I asked every manufacturer and they're always like yeah well component costs and stuff and I'm like cool if you're making something super cheap I get it mm-hmm but let's stop yeah well I mean we do have about a half hour slot but we also have a buffer for like 45 minutes so if you want to stay on for a little bit longer let's hang yeah well I would love to do that I was warning you I was not indicating you should answer questions was warning me about your battery under pixel oh is that right yeah I feel like I have I have a charger here somewhere I have like a power delivery power bank clear yes so do I but I didn't bring it today because I didn't bring a bag and because I didn't want the gimbal is it what I think and because I because of this like I just I don't want to do one go back to the pixel to Excel but video stabilization if other manufacturers could pay a lot of attention to it and maybe approach the quality of this that would be amazing let's see when does the house were to mobile coming out now we are we are talking about it um yeah I don't have an actual date yet I want to say like q2 is what they were saying but I do have a price it's 149 and 149 that's an incredible price wait for all of us who bought the original one I'm a little bit easier yeah I know it just sell the old one for $100 yeah I feel like that's what we should be doing yeah good call so 2018 CES 2018 because the start of the year we obviously have Mobile World Congress coming up which is when we're gonna finally hear what the actual specs on the Alcatel phones are sorry yes because they were like oh you can take a look at the phones and film them all you want but we can't tell you anything yeah it was that little tease you know like they did for the they did that for the BlackBerry key one too so I was sitting on that for forever I'm not gonna share the piece of information but I remember looking at the phone and I was like how many megapixels is the camera and they were just like can't tell you suppose like okay it's settings yeah are you gotta watch out though because some of Em's throw a fake setting screen in there if you haven't heard this it's hilarious because like you I mean do we have like phones last year that still said they were on KitKat yeah yeah yeah you look at it up as like Android version 4.2 what am i that doesn't seem right at all exactly well man CES is obviously at the beginning of the year so I'm curious what you might be thinking you you have your ear to the ground for a lot of stuff it's not just I mean mobile kind of it's it's an umbrella term so while we are Android Authority we try to dive into some other stuff as well you know you get to do that on mass yeah what do you think is gonna be the trend of 2018 oh god man well I don't know what was the trend of last year was it smart home was it wasted over the Smarties the smart stuff yeah right you know and everyone like there's all this really never less buzz worthy stuff out there like 5g and could the connected lifestyle and all there's a you know like and it's all very exciting but it is kind of impossible to make exciting for someone like me who's like because it's so early yet for so much of this stuff that I'm just like okay fine when we have a product that's shipping and then I can actually experience it myself and comment on it and that'll be great I don't know man I mean it's speculative stuff it's just yeah Casillas itself one thing that I'm noticing about CES is that it's not quite the microcosm of the year that it used to be there's almost too much going on here that you can't really pinpoint the one trend in let's say mobile or even Android yeah it's happening and that's because in part because like Mobile is maturing right I mean you've got there is too much happening but there's also a lot less happening in like tablets which we can now agree are like sort of sort of gone lost convertibles and phones oh we did this year there will be a little something happening in laptops in that we will see whether the Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 always connected pcs are going to succeed or fail in the market it was still confused about that because they were talking about the Snapdragon 835 powered laptops that are going to have such long battery life and I was like so what did you do to the battery or you know isn't there gonna does no GPU in there or like no it's like well I mean the 8:35 is already optimized for mobile right so it's like it's power consumption is is really really low and then they've got all the space of a laptop now to spread heat dissipation through which is great and then they can just throw in a huge battery and you know and then it doesn't have to have a separate LT mantra sudo seems really promising but here's the thing we've only seen demos exactly we don't have retail you know it's out in the wild and frankly are you excited about the one that Lenovo announced her any of them are HP or Dell not quiet or not to hell sorry oasis it doesn't really know not yet because like the use case scenario is what I'm worried about because while a laptop that can go for 20 or whatever the number might be might be great the what is it the adrenal that is with the Snapdragon a 35-year it's not gonna be able to handle premier it's not gonna be able to handle final cut well they could lend some fun it'll run III asked that specifically don't when I yeah when I interviewed there was some stuff like there was one question in particular I wanted answered any answered it I'm like can you run premiere can you run Lightroom on this thing and he's like absolutely you can and I'm like okay it's not gonna run great wait stop this is why we need to check it this is why we need to be able to like have these units in the real world and use them because if it does work out for one or more of these devices these could be these could make me react sighted about laptops you know what I mean but not yeah go ahead speaking of speculation yeah and we're not gonna talk about because we don't know anything we want if we want it i know i and i believe yourself we've had this discussion before we don't really we're not we don't really take leaks too seriously you know like it's it's hard it's hard to actually take it seriously because speculation only means so much until the actual thing comes out yeah that's why we have a few questions about the galaxy s 9 of course you know what I let's hit him and then let's talk about why I don't empty what says what do you think about the or MT rather says what do you think about the Galaxy s5 I think it's probably gonna be a smartphone launched in 2018 like I think it's gonna probably come out around MWC yeah you know like it usually and I don't mean to be like you know it's like a jerk about it it's just that I I think leaks leaks are really cool because they get everyone everyone whipped up and fires up the imaginations absolutely it gets companies names out there when they when they want to ramp up to you know advertising a new product but for me like I'd rather be surprised yeah I agree I mean don't get me wrong I'd rather have the briefing beforehand so I don't need to be surprised at the event and go like you know well Bose in the demo area you know but like I wanted I want to walk in and be like what have you guys got have them open a box and show me something that I'm like oh Wow rather than like walking and being like yeah that comports with the leaks I hate it whenever we do an article because like I do the YouTube side I do write some of the reviews and I mean I do write the reviews but I do write some stuff for the website is what I meant to say yeah and I hate it whenever I read anywhere not just ours but you know any of their publications well it has this which the leaks did confirm yeah I know the leaks did confirm anything yeah right because not a confirmation yeah but we might be excited for this year first I want to say did you meet with blackberry here or did you have time with the Blackbird yeah very briefly yeah their new colorway for the key one yeah the bronze edition it's I still want a Black Edition yeah you and I are like the the BlackBerry key one fanboys of the universe right despite the fact that neither of us is carrying one at this show I was actually gonna say earlier what's your Excuse well I don't carry two phones I would carry a pixel two and a blackberry if I could got a two founded up I want to it's a great time well okay being a little bit meta up I do have two SIM cards it's just one of them as being used by my girlfriend got two back pockets you get two phones man well I was actually gonna ask what your holsters are yeah so I used to wear this product called the LD west original holster indeed and I loved it especially for shows like this and but it had the effect of making you kind of look like a detective which was great until I came into a restaurant at one point and was informed that several months ago when I was in wearing my holster the entire staff thought I was packing heat which in my state of Massachusetts is alarming to a degree well this is a Nevada an open carry probably seal carry rather with the amount of ads I've seen around town for shoot a real machine gun it's true yeah I imagine it might be so what is your solution for that then because I was trying to find one I haven't I have a tiny messenger that I'm still on the fence about because I feel like it makes it I feel like it doesn't quite go with my look well funny you should ask Josh this broadcast is brought to you by Scotty bass no JK we need to try it yeah they're actually really cool I like I like their stuff no no I I've just gone to back pocket model already hate to give you a boring answer but back pockets are inside suit jacket pockets okay it's it's not the holster gets you remembered but it was time to move on to something else I had I had a phase for a while there I think it was two years ago when I was in like my gym rat mode I used to a gym yeah yeah I would use gym bags those drawstring bags oh that's right you did it and I'd walk around looking like I just came from the gym you had that whole look down like you would what you'd have the sweat pants good like the hair was tied everything was athleisure which is a term I hate whoa is not that important mom - yeah it should be called fitness casual because athleisure is a term that implies that you go to the gym and wear those same clothes everywhere else yeah I don't like that at all yeah our clothes that are made by fitness companies that you can wear in places like I've worn Under Armour before and it's fine yeah so it's okay sorry mini-ramp but I know maybe that I think that would be cool if that were a bit of a theme in 2018 because at the end of 2017 we saw finally project jacquard by just by Google and I got to like oh you did you get the I got the project jacquard jacket from a local retailer Google didn't send me one but I bought it anyways I'm told denim jackets don't look up don't look at me denim jackets you would be surprised really I wore it and I put it on him like this ain't gonna be me and I was like whoa wait cuz it was like slimming yeah but I couldn't do enough for me okay right it's just got the one interface area where it's like smart woven fibers in the sleeve and you can skip tracks and your headphones awesome but maybe this will be will see more shoes with the embedded step counter stuff the personal area network stuff - Fitness oh I saw a ring ads showstoppers or whatever one of the little mini shows that like you know it reads your heart rate and count steps I'm gonna be so triggered right now if it's who I'm thinking more Ora no it is not motive may be okay because Ora I wanted to see Ora is sort of like the pioneer I don't want to go to a far as a pioneer but they were one of the first really popular ring trackers really the probably ever ship yeah and was like fad or was it like a Rick fad that I know what you're talking about remember that your new one is much more streamlined I said this isn't them this is a separate coming in their first product is so light it's titanium and it's so lightweight I thought it was fake but then he turned on the little tiny LEDs on the thing and I was like wait and so you track it with like it tracks your sleep but tracks your steps it tracks here I don't know if it has a heart rate sensor I may have misspoken there's one more sensor I don't know about and the app is so streamlined and lightweight and cool and I'm like this is something I could get into yeah and so do you you don't really wear trackers in general though no just a SmartWatch like you know but it's one the nice thing about CES is you hit your 10,000 step goal and like just like at 11:00 a.m. it's lunchtime yeah exactly but yeah I would love one of those rings I think that'd be a perfect way of doing it without like it being intrusive yeah if you don't want to wear what I wear enough stuff already look at that watch oh yeah the Skagen blue yarn I remember seeing a hybrid smartwatches are my favorite category right now got no use we were just talking about how Android wear and use a makeover good dog I just ripped it out all completely you just gave up yeah I gave what okay I don't want anymore I want mine I have a few buttons that allow me to control my phone when I wish yeah but I don't need notification ship because the amount of time I would have looked at my watch as time I know you don't think it's not about that it's about oh it's an Instagram comment who cares well this oh it's that email I was waiting for okay grab the phone okay now that's that's where I want to go with this I want there to be a semi hybrid SmartWatch that has maybe a small really cheap looking panel on there okay all it does all it does is it mirrors your notification tray get a Martian go ahead it's a Martian do that yeah cuz all I want is these icons at the top and I have too many I know but I like what you're saying you don't even want words no you want it to be like an email envelope yeah we're a Twitter bird or at yeah I just wanted that display on the watch maybe in the bottom room or even just in the middle yeah but there are a lot to do that already like we're there yeah there are there like they have they don't even have LCDs they have like literally silk-screened email envelope phone thing text like there's like an LED behind yeah but I guess like seeing the icon is something or whatever it might be I don't know if it has to be that way but yeah get on it I really want to see something like that on innovators all I really want us to realize that in the fringes of this very room there's probably 80 of those watches we should just go look for them I agree I mean you've had a lot of time to run around I feel like I have it yeah yeah I have and and it's I think when you come to a show like this it can be really easy to after doing this for a couple years to be like I don't even say this crap I gotta I saw though the important stuff in the meetings but just do yourself a favor if you covered these things and just walk around them and absorb this stuff there is a lot of stuff that's not gonna apply to you but it's it's so fun it's just to see how much stuff is being built yeah and how much of it is kind of cool Wow I think MT is having some fun with us right now because he's like speculation what do you think I'm glad they thought of six it better be seven Boston yeah that'd be fine that would be fun okay did you okay one last question only because I want to see if you've seen it cuz I have it Samsung's micro LED displays no I heard about the technology a like I mean the bigger the bigger a display gets the further I walk away from it I just don't like I like TVs mm-hmm the only TV that I'm that excited so so whatever so sorry I'm rambling no I haven't seen it what's it like I actually haven't seen it either I just know that the the micro LED is supposed to be made for okay this is my I heard one of my colleagues say that there's modularity involved because in order to have what I'm thinking you know you have a micro LED display and you're able to pack them on and have more and they all become one huge display or you can even have other just other things displaying like one that is just for let's say smart assistants or for other things it could be a concept that makes it into other devices I think that's the reason why they were kind of excited about it okay so that's the only thing I was just wondering cuz one of our we got a question from here whom are Kadir so that was the one oh okay yeah sorry about that I'm not much of a TV guy yeah lissa runs webOS I'm gonna go ahead and ask I need a gimbal for my smartphone badly so please what's looking good out there I mean I kind of talked about it earlier already I'm not saying this is the only one out there but it is a great one so you know what's crazy about this though is that like this is sort of the effect that DJI has it's it's a big enough mover and can ship stuff like this that's presumably of pretty fine quality I don't know this is brand-new so it might be garbage but it doesn't seem to be and they can move it at a really reasonable price so I'm guilty of this I'm like I need something that meets my needs and I don't need to review this category let me just buy that and see how well it works exactly and in my experience with the first one that's all I'll speak to my experience with the first one is that I loved it initially over time it didn't really age well I beat it up it forgot what zero horizon is so now it's at like a permanent three degree tilt you know it's good but considering the app I've never liked it's it's priced right now yeah it wasn't priced right at 300 oh yeah and I didn't get one yeah I'm just gonna try to sell it yeah but I think one last thing I'm gonna leave it off with a compliment one of our Sean Heron says Michael Fisher I bought the Star Trek love how communicator you were for you for my uncle and he loved it I'm glad the combadge Nobel Committee go home man they recently remade that I heard cuz when I first reviewed heard it was bad and I was so sad because I've wanted a combat since 1991 one of those I mean we're really good friends this is one of the places that we like separate because I've never I've never watched Josh as a deep space 9 guy oh no JK I've never watched any of them I've never watched any Star Trek so I know I need to catch up you've told me already that the current one is pretty good discovery is really good yeah this broadcast is brought to you by CBS all access C six dollars a month gets you unlimited the reference CBS caves all right well on that note I do want to make sure we're not taking too much of your time well yeah I've got so much stuff to do so the live stream went for the entire time so I'm pretty happy about that yeah but Michael thank you so much for having perfect coming on not having me thank you for coming welcome Josh thank you folks no really thanks maybe I want to give you some spots you know maybe if you want to pour anything yeah anybody wants to come see the videos that I kick out on YouTube it is that the mr. mobile th e mr mo bi le that is my handle everywhere Twitter especially Instagram yes where my producer who I inaccurately called Jules on my last podcast absurd Jules was happy though yeah that's my modern producer the guy was doing all that great Instagram stuff is justice so it's pretty dope name too but anyway check me out 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