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good evening and welcome to android authority on air the original android google plus hangout shell I'm their cross i'm scott anderson and this week we're joined by special guests Derek Scott of android authority our new home as well as returning guest dan Charlton our resident hardware guru and Clayton youngberg of android authority who is a resident YouTube phone reviewer for android authority welcome to the show guys great to have you here yeah thank you the Scott what do we have on the show this week we're going to going over a samsung galaxy s3 giveaway details Derek Scott's going to be enlightening us about that also we're going to have a question and answer type live review with Clayton on then we got some phone news samsung galaxy s3 info on ICS updates things like that also got some jelly bean rumors we're going to go over some tablet news some apps as well as some roms and talk about patents and then later on we'll get into some more carrier news great great so as we said we have Derek Scott with us from android authority our new home we're very happy to very happy to have him here because he's going to talk about a samsung galaxy s3 give away the android authority doing right now here all right yeah good to have used Eric and Scott on the team and we're excited with this stuff the on-air podcast and good things to come so we are given away a samsung galaxy s3 it's an international giveaway and so everyone is eligible if you go to the site Android you'll find the link on the in the side menu under giveaways just click on that will also add the link here into the chat and it will go and i'm going to post that link to the chat now in the Hangout there so those of you that are watching make sure you're checking and commenting on the android authorities page post the original post that way you see the link that Derek Scott is going to post there for you all right so we got um right now there's 39,000 total entries and seven days left in the giveaway but you can turn it up to 10 entries in this raffle I'm all you got to do is subscribe to our youtube channel google+ page facebook page tweet the tweet the poach like the post and goodbye so good odds don't get one into one in four thousand one and 3900 if you put do all 10 entries so it's good odds and get your entries in and maybe get yourself a new galaxy s3 in the next week oh you know how much that phone cost normal if you were fine international version unlock leave it says robin 19 oh yeah and we bought one in the UK and it was seven ninety-nine yeah that's an 800 of states no wait so we're talking like eight dollars right yeah yep that eight 800 800 okay okay okay yeah they confuse I was excited there an eight-hundred-dollar piece of hardware pretty much the most hyped phone of the year mode chances are the most popular phone of the year for free so ya know uh Dan toward Authority calm the link is in the comment and as Derek said you know there's 39 thousand entries you know not that bad you know uh hey for a hundred-dollar phone you might as well go sign off real simply just got to click a few buttons and send out a few likes and posts and tweets and circles and social media all the things and yet can I have a chance to win we were quick question about the actual contest on do if you've done many of these before or entries before um do you not 50 entries counted before the contone yeah so if so we try to open up to new fans or whatnot so if you've already done it you can only base you're basically the maximum entry ticket to the public yet is uh three if you've already subscribed to our YouTube channel and google page and facebook and twitter so we still have a chance but um i guess we kind of waited it so the new fans get a little bit of an edge I guess so but either way you still get yourself in there and so the chance to win okay all right well you know one chance is it for an eight-hundred-dollar device now you mean you might as well do it no matter how many oh yeah so those of you that aren't aware I guess what all the features are the power and everything behind the sgs3 as I said Clayton is our resident YouTube reviewer for android authority and he has been playing around with the sgs3 for about the last week or so he he knows it inside out in a few days ago we asked our audience and say them I had any questions about the galaxy 3 s 3 and wanted to see if there's any more questions about it so right now if you know you're watching this you have any questions about the s3 feel free to leave us a comment for Clayton here and we'll go ahead and address it but while we're waiting for your comments to show up let's uh let's answer a few questions and it looks like we got a few right here let's get into long's question it says TouchWiz how bad is it um you know it's it's not that bad i'd say that the Ice Cream Sandwich touch woods is a lot better than it was for gingerbread os's and stuff like that um I hated TouchWiz on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too and they kind of had a like a lot of the same elements have gone into the injury the Ice Cream Sandwich bill that the touch was for the sgs3 the folder making I don't like that but you know it's kind of nice if you like TouchWiz you'll love this what uh what difference is with the between the gingerbread touchwiz and the ICS TouchWiz are there you know what stuff I mean the core functionality of ICS of course is there other than that like the skin it it's hard to compare just the overlay I'd say you know there's some of you features of course to do apps included like s voice and stuff that come pre-loaded with TouchWiz and whatnot but uh I don't know it's not it's kind of hard to compare just the skins instead of it they're very active molasses compare how computing sense for uh from what I'm seeing it looks like a bit you know very very very heavy yeah yeah sense for I like sense for and I like the Optimus UI on LG's probably both of those I like a little better than TouchWiz for the sgs3 i mentioned new apps um I specific at this voice is that anything special to in your experiences than anything special or is that just kind of a high on a future I think it's something it's sort of gimmicky I don't love it and I wouldn't find myself use do it a lot but it is you know it's a cool little gimmick it's nice it if you want something to compete with Siri you know something like that but does it actually work I mean some reviews that I've read it said you know how I try to just didn't connect anything yeah that's the thing it it searches all right when you get it to work but a lot of times you'll just be talking at nothing to it won't do anything really and you kind of have to and I don't understand if you have to press the button and hold it to speak sometimes that works for me and sometimes I can just talk right to it and I don't get the hi galaxy thing like that again I've spent enough time with it it's still just kind of difficult to navigate I won't find myself using it for that reason it I think it's neat um but I don't think you know me maybe it has a honeymoon phase to it you know yeah a lot in the beginning because it's something new but it might uh it might die down over time it did again yeah there's so many things about it you know uh you might find yourself using a lot you know maybe you know of the weather or something like that you know is that for Siri yeah yeah he liked it because it was something that I often parties for the simple things like it I think you could use it if the boy if the voice recognition is good but you know I I don't think that that's it technology is there yet um I think that more is coming and I think that you know maybe in a couple days we might figure out something better that's coming but uh I just don't think it's there yet so the way I question your clean what's the battery life like on that all the battery life is pretty good it's better than the Galaxy Nexus which I also run um I can get a full 24 hours out of it again I don't have a sim card and so I'm not actually connected to mobile data 24 7 i'm always connected to Wi-Fi and I've got everything pushing I've got all my accounts thinking and notifications and whatnot and it plastic at 24 hours just on why I that's a yeah kind of you know I said I have been switching batteries very frequently I got a few expenditure incredible on Wi-Fi only with everything syncing with last like three lemons I'm going into my battery stats right now will get a good idea what I can't even believe it's that short for not having a mobile connection yeah but you know what then he was using it for reviews so I'm sure you James crap out of it there we go it's right now I've got a 27-percent and discharging and it's been eight hours 10 minutes 54 seconds on battery so that's pretty forward yeah what's your what's your screen on time right now green on x 36 percent and the cell standbys for win7 hit the screen on button and i'll give you an actual time there we go they x 40 41 minutes everyone minutes out of eight hours and you've gone through 75% that is not impressive yeah this is the UH Wendy this is the expandable I mean the aftermarket battery in here after check one oh no this isn't this is actually the samsung NFC battery and you know it does take me two days does you have to get that battery up to where it should be so with him swapping batteries and you know doing reviews on and everything the battery life might not be off the moment I know whenever I first got my got to Nexus I got the extended battery it took good four or five days a full discharges you know before I got no my battery to where I liked it damn s so what about the physical buttons on there um we got 32 haptic and to have big one physical the home button is physical and then the menu in the back or haptic and they're kind of cool but one problem i ran into is when you're fooling with the phone here in a landscape mode the palm of your hands sometimes hit the capacitive buttons here and you'll actually be clicking with like keep the palm of your hand and stuff so it gets in the way actually I think unless you've got a case on there it's got like a border edge there but now we have a question here the eye tracking feature you how you look at your phone smarty stay oh yeah oh uh how the hell's that work how does it work for you well I've had it on the entire time that I've had the phone and I've yet to see it work um sometimes the little eyeball comes up in the notification bar and that's my cue that it might be working but I've never I've never been able to kind of look away from the phone and then the screen will turn off never happened for me get me the camera running all the time anyway your phone running all the time it's really not too surprising that you're going to battery that fast sure yeah yeah I'm push me that's trailer we got right here of Adrian asks how's the quality of the camera I really like the camera quality it's nice I did some tests pictures you can find in the review I think our review of the sgs3 versus the LG optimus you can check out some tests pics there but it's really nice it's you know it's 8-megapixel on the rear it's got the burst shot like the HTC One series phones and autofocus is sort of a bitch but you know so everything the menu button um how is that with you know Google's pushing too many buttons in the app and on screen so how is it just seemed kind of redundant to have the menu button or um I'm actually a fan of physical or you know many buttons that are actually there I like them a lot because I'm always just deserting to like the you know the on-screen buttons on my galaxy nexus i installed aokp so can have the actual menu button on there I don't like searching through an app that basis to find where the little three dot menu is not so i kinda like Senator in the reaction mark um yes yeah especially well we'll Gil has a question here we wanted to know about the face recognition compared to the One X or the one asked the Galaxy Nexus yeah you know it's basically the same thing you've got different hardware on the cameras but the software is the exact same thing you know it's it's AOSP android software compared to the Galaxy Nexus I think we've got a 1.9 megapixel front-facing camera and then the 1.3 on the Galaxy Nexus not imagine hardware can make a difference you know if you're getting down to it no call about I wonder will maybe you were referring to was it called s tag or know where did tagged you all did you have a chance to get yeah yeah I was able to do that um it on all the devices it doesn't just as well in my eyes you know from what I've noticed they all recognize a face in the photo just as well as the next so and this I'm supposed to recognize the person as well I know that it would recognize a face but over time went recognize the actual person and what their name is I believe that's a functionality um you I don't know where what a string of reference would be yes if you oppose to do that you have to have contacts and yaptap yeah people saved as a contact and everything for that to actually work with maybe a test set out for us and let us know here in the future something I work yeah well that's a feature I wouldn't be surprised if google released in the next update I think it's a very simplistic thing that they can integrate with Google Plus because google plus re as a facial recognition already hacked in so I I think that that would be a very good and incremental update to um you know android I'd make me out definitely let's see we have any other questions for Clayton about the samsung galaxy s3 yeah as yours blown up you have a few oh yeah it did I had to get another not that actually moves us on to the next thing and we'll just go ahead will incorporate that here up yesterday I believe for maybe even the day before we found out that the galaxy s3 was in fact the hottest android phone available I'm so hot that it will actually melt so Clayton the fact you've been playing with it for pass to be able does it does it get pretty warm no we're we're actually can you show us actually where it's more Matt on the phone yeah what I'm doing like graphic intensive apps I just playing some shadow gun and then when i'm downloading a lot of updates and stuff like that it gets really hot right here the bob they're actually if anyone's seen the picture of where it did burn I'll peel the backing off here but almost right down below to sim card and just to the right of the charging port is actually where the sgs3 burst into flames and I think that could be where the processor that I'm not sure about the internal store I really seen this thing busted open but we were discussing before the show and it's not really anywhere near the battery or where any sort of uh terminals would be or anything like that but I wonder if we'll have to look at the FCC sexy I wonder if that's where any radios are you know yeah making something hot down there yeah and that device that got off was in the UK and that was on a international version so everybody running bs4 um you're fine it hasn't happened your life yet oh it's been released yet I just because I before can't melt butter yeah so I mean there's really no need to panic this is just one device you know what other other foods of nodes in the past right Scott yeah there's there been uh i mean the iphone on your plane remember those phones going down on your plane trips that's crazy but I mean this has happened to many devices before uh Samsung is aware of the problem and they're gonna sing it so um yeah not much good man that'd be ridiculous if we saw recall yeah like how are we gonna dress or as Adrian said maybe that's something you know phones overheating and catching fire maybe that's something at Apple patented dinner to be suing Santa no Lord Samsung up to copy everything delray I wouldn't put it past it ah then it's a feature it's magical you were talking about the s for not being released yet I only go into delays so the samsung galaxy s3 yeah so we don't really know what the s4 is going to do in terms of heat and also the LTE radio but when we do that we'll get back to you on that but the reason we all know is because yeah basically every single carrier that had touted over the past couple weeks are getting it here's on release dates pre-order dates and everything and that that's really not happen people that were ordering a tease sgs3 some of their orders are coming up now is backordered and it really wasn't any official word yet when the delay will be rectified but this is only applying to the 16 gig model because that's the only version at eighteen t is offering Sprint is soon same type of the lace no the 16 gig yes three for them is being delayed in models are going to start shipping maybe around the 21st or a day or two later at most as far as the 32 gigabyte model is concerned people are going to have to wait at least until next week for those to so they're a little behind as well and then lastly t-mobile believes the statement saying due to the massive pre-order and the demand for this we're gonna do something completely different and a lot of people think it's a little strange there they plan to ship out there sgs3 s by the 21st which was yesterday to only their top 29 markets so if you live in a heavily blanketed t-mobile air area and they're going to shift their phones there everybody else if you're outside those marquetry have to wait another week until the 27th so once again if you pre-ordered that phone through t-mobile there's a lot of people in your area that use tmobile chances are you're going to get it but if you live out in middle nowhere and nobody has t-mobile out there you have to wait an extra week so I don't know why they're doing it that way it's they should do any on the first come first serve basis in my opinion but hey that's what they're doing so yeah let us know whenever you start receiving those phones from any of the carriers uh verizon hasn't said anything yet so i think there's isn't going to be released in another few weeks here later in july so I'm 10 video and what the 10th 11th or something like that so we don't know if they're going to experience any additional delays on top of that now it is this a major fault of Samsung not keeping up with production or is this some specialty in their manufacturing process or is there just a huge huge demand for these phones a huge demand cookies in OC overwhelming the wrong parts of marketing the marketing soon as you know it's a man yeah because he looks a little comparison but let's say you know apples always short on devices but it's they're okay with it the users have you know to know to know that it's fine they accept it but when Samsung or any Android manufacturer you know it's a delay that are their anger so I wonder you know they need to ramp up production or did they underestimate it or is it just pure marketing yeah you know one got epic you know well I think that probably the TSMC shortage on the 28 nanometer crepe processors is probably a contributing factor you know I mean that's also what pushed back the asus padfone yeah that is true it's also slowed down HTC a sudden slowdown shipments of some of the one devices yes I mean I'm sure that's going to be playing a role in it too is they just can't get the parts that could be in them that wouldn't necessarily be their fault no I mean I'm also sure that having the millions and millions of devices you know get pre ordered to didn't help either I can all it can't all be just marking you know I mean is it it's making a lot of people mad you know mm-hmm by the way there's still even if they're mad they're still going at what other phone can compete with us three right now yeah yeah that's very true they got a window they got they got some time you know until the next yeah and then after I owe somebody releases something else and then they'd be like oh I gotta wait for me yeah looks like we got a few questions if we feel like answer those nail for the ass full of it on ps3 there ya go ahead alrighty we've got one that ass Manny's asking if there's a swipe option under the language and input for keyboard there's not there's no swype on this keyboard we do have a gesture swipe here in these settings which allows you to swipe horizontally to switch between letters and symbols but no swype you'll have to download slideit keyboard or something from the market or sign up with swype beta i would assume it works on the SGS 300 I wouldn't obviously we haven't tested that but I wouldn't know what no I wouldn't you know works for pretty much every device out I'll post the two gigabytes of RAM some been I mean about this this has one gigabyte because it is the international version will be seeing the two gigs oh snap dragon models some people say that it's going to offset the lack of the other two cores on the Snapdragon but we'll just have to see I don't know I mean that's something I was debating a lot of people ours whether they're going to go ahead and purchase the lot version or if they're going to wait and get the Snapdragon but you know who's to say I guess we'll see when benchmarks come out no sedan being being my Hardware friend what do you say about that having it offset the lack of two cores isn't it you know that it doesn't really matter about the number of cores does it really doesn't I mean it really doesn't the benchmarks are already coming out I've seen them lr yeah the Exynos the quad core Exynos does beat yes for in benchmarks by a little but we're talking like maybe a ten percent Navy ten percent I'm different benchmarks better that's I'm not impressed when you're talking a hundred percent more cores you're only getting ten percent more power out of that yeah that makes sense but they're not impressive in really I mean obviously I don't know this because I haven't seen any benchmarks but remember the way that Android works is that yeah more memory is obviously better means you can have more run and you know you can have a larger skin you know loaded into memory and so forth but just because it has two gigs of RAM doesn't mean that you're going to be sitting there with one gig of ram free all the time yeah you're gonna be sitting there it you know one point eight gigs of ram the entire time because the way that Android works it's going to consume as much memory as possible for all three you know all your at more apps you keep opening it's going to keep loading them into memory that's what its personnel is that yeah that some Android works and I remember having a discussion with one of my friends about the the s3 and he said he's tired of running out of memory on his Galaxy Nexus is like I'm always sitting it like 200 megs of ram free you know so I can't wait to get the s3 because it's going to have to get Aram and I'll have a whole gig to play with I was like yeah until you open a few extra apps and I have and then they're gonna sit there and memory that's the way Android was design that's why it's bad it's not just an interim it's I mean it's sort of fundamental processing organizing decision I mean don't need just free ram sitting around what are you gonna do with it why do you want free ram you don't you want ran to be use to do something so I always be using or are used to I mean you look at let's say windows right you know you look for your desktop OS when you close an application is long stop one down there in the system tray you know you're so you're gonna get you're gonna get most of that memory back so you're going to look at your computer and you're going to see maybe fifty percent memory free or something like that so people want to see that on that phone you know what maybe you'll see that when I first boots up but but after that you know it once you start opening and closing apps you know it's just the way that yeah it's supposed to be using the memory the more it's using the better it's running exactly that's how that's why you can switch between applications real fast so memories good means you can run more or you can have a thicker beefier you I running you know like mytouch woods well speaking of the galaxy line of phones on samsung galaxy s2 now the AT&T version got ICS update and yesterday it was available it was not over the air update it was actually available with Samsung's utility manager hi as I think it is and it was available for a little while and I got taken down and then people supposedly was like oh their servers and they'll often the amount of requests was putting on their servers um but apparently Samsung replied and said that they were just kind of doing a soak and the ICS update will be back shortly they said very soon so oh it could be any day now you know I hate this with the passion because the s2 is an extremely popular phone and a lot of people aren't going to get that update a lot of because a lot of people aren't going to take a cable and plug their phone into a cable on their computer and download it and set it up people aren't going to do that you know what techies are sack tech savvy people are but the average person is not going to do that I know it's a 300mm load I don't and that's probably why they're not pushing out over the air because it's so large it has a chance to fail I'm assuming I don't know you know if people have to sit there forever to download it over if they don't over 3g or 4g or hspa+ whatever they call it these days you know you have to sit there and download it over that you know you have to sit there for maybe an hour the same spot you know to get to get the 300 great file so there's a chance that it could be corrupt out of that md5 hash so maybe that's the reason why we did it over keys but I'm sorry but if you have a if you have an update that is any size and you don't push it over the air and you're a carrier that says that you don't have faith in your your network and that I mean seriously come on like over the air don't have people go directly to the computer that just you know we pass those days of connecting our phone to our computer and sinking our contacts phones and does that remind you something yeah the iphone from like a year ago exactly so no no one's gonna get the substation Lester savvy or they know somebody that is and that's sad it real okay in every group of friends there's one tech savvy person there's one Android friend and I think that they'll make them aware I've notified three of my friends at FS too so they know how to get it down and they're itching for it so we'll see we'll see you next month when I will look at the end the Android distribution chart and we'll see if it jumped off a massive amount because of ya till ya that will be interesting it was seven point one percent last month so we'll see what happens here in a month moving all other phone news last week we talked about you're holding it wrong from HTC oh well HTC finally acknowledged that that there is a problem and they are taking steps in their production process to rectify the problem so it doesn't happen in the future on the One X what does that mean I don't know they're going to fix it on the fracture lines of new devices I won't have it what does that mean for existing users affected by it yeah I don't know I'm sure no they didn't least that to the public they just let some news sites know about it so that wasn't a public statement item which is kind of interesting as well so yeah we'll see what happens to the international one exit I'm sure they can throw some more juice at it you know by a software update but to really fix the hardware issue i don't know that's gonna do anything on Ice Cream Sandwich wha was rolled out this past week to the Sony Xperia S as well as starting today rollout begins for verizon's razr and razr maxx remember these phone the razr and razr maxx why is the flagship phone from verizon besides of Galaxy Nexus actually started today and it's kind of it's great I mean that these phones are getting nice yes they needed ICS has been available for seven months now I always say we've gotten in a long time ago you can see it we've been seeing weeks for the razor for months and months and months and months so I hopefully they got it right and hopefully motorola did a good job with it users should start seeing it soon so if you don't have it yet you know bit about film settings check for update and everything and start hammering to get it to start rolling out today now this is one of the phones that you know I can understand why it was the lead because you've got ice cream sandwich to try to figure out how do we work that with our motoblur um you know skin and then we have a web top that kind of needs to be refreshed as well so they they did a complete refresh on their web top and I think that update that software but I think they're looking at the videos from Motorola there were a lot of updates and a lot of useful things that were developed into the ICS version of webtop just kind of cool to see if you guys use web top I don't know if anybody uses webtop was pretty expensive when it came out but it's an interesting feature that more choices are good at yes also the HTC Rezound from verizon almost almost yes HTC posted a couple days ago on their website full support information full install instructions saying that the update was available here's I do it and revive verizon remain silent number I didn't say anything few hours later somehow the information with rude that there's an ice cream sandwich update was available but those of you that are into rooting and robbing and customizing the heck out of your phone well you'll have to worry if you're already running the latest leak however this thing's been leaking since februari it sounds pretty key so if you're staying up to date with yours allies gas leaks and you're on last week's update you're running the exact same radio band and you're running the exact same Android build number that supposedly the official version was going to have so at this point you're as official as it gets if you have it um if you don't have it go out there to your favorite wrong community and find it downloadable post links for it later ah said it's official official moving on to the most on my personal most exciting part of the show jellybean rumors my favorite you know lovey loves me some rumors you know i've been i've been called Peter Pan but I certain people would enjoy community when it comes to the leading rumors and not we know what not wanting to grow up being excited about the rumors so I'm gonna love talking about our next thing so if you think this week the asus Nexus 7 that's what's what we called the MIMO 370 teen whatever it was how did or spotted via PX I asked image data on google+ what happened was somebody took two pictures with the phone and then uploaded them on jun 7 and jun 13 now is it what's interesting about this is the location data from the images and all people plus shows that it came from google building 44 you're like okay now no big deal but then you go back and you look at the guy that posts them and he's been posting random images of similar shots you know nothing really extraordinary for many many months from the nexus s 4g so it seems after doing a little bit of research that this guy is friends with a couple Googlers maybe he you know does some type of its awning line I'll know I know he's friends with Googlers it looks like and they let him close the device may be so he shows up yeah yeah he shows up and he uses it and he takes pictures of things in the office such as ceiling tiles and lights and uploads those images to Google+ um because he probably didn't mean to they're probably just automatically uploaded yeah well you know what you turn that instant upload yeah yeah it's instant upload yeah I had instant upload turned on he would have to actually share suppose that's true but so what's interesting about the the images that were posted like I said something special ceiling tiles and lights um but the image resolution was 1280 x 960 and because it was facing a ceiling it kind of makes sense that that resolution by the angle that it's probably a front-facing camera so then there's an additional rumor on that that aligns with the previously rumoured hardware specs saying that it probably doesn't have a rear facing camera it only has a front facing camera so 1280 x 960 front facing cameras not that's nice so we're going to be able to have you know they've had to be accomplishing and outs from it and we don't need to offer found and take pictures with a 7-inch slate you know you don't need to do that so we're so now when my one us can capture 20 like what is it 36 exactly you know what is just trees while sitting there on the couch with my nexus 7 tablet doing something in my son or my daughter does something cute I guarantee you my galaxy nexus is probably within arm's length of me because it's my phone that I use so I'm going to reach over and grab myself I'm going to take a picture of them and I'll be said I'm not going to worry one bit to my tablet doesn't have a rear to him so the fact it has a nice quality front-facing camera I'm excited about that um the the second thing that came out this week about jelly bean uh actually I reported about it was yesterday afternoon someone over to XDA noticed first that if he went to the play store and bought the hspa+ Google Play Store version of the galaxy nexus upon checking out it had a different thumbnail image and the different thumbnail image wasn't the one we've known to come in love over the past seven months it didn't have the the same wallpaper didn't have the same icons it had a pink blue green yellow ish a home screen wallpaper and had a white with a low of a city search widget at the top yeah it's nothing like anything we've ever seen before even the icons were actually different you know it wasn't the same full near the google folder icon on one side the camera on the other so it was a completely different screenshot so you know whatever they updated no big deal you know it's kind of makes you think about it but then if you actually proceed to check that when you agree to the terms and pay by credit card you were the item line description read you know the hspa+ Galaxy Nexus quote the latest smartphone from google soon the first phone with android 4.1 jelly now I mean they ran out of space for the word jelly bean and what else starts with gel you know and will you know android 4.1 GL it's not jello that's trademarked the Hindu XL that's up and you know art if you call it je l oh yeah now what's interesting about this is that it was eventually removed now this you know right now you can go to the Play Store and and add the Galaxy Nexus to your shopping cart and you can see the new icon on the new thumbnail but if you actually try to buy it the text has been completely removed it's all blight now there's nothing there so they remove the fact that saying this was going to be the first smartphone with 4.1 now that that leads me to two assumptions here one google is going to give their own device 4.1 first and it says it's the first phone it doesn't say first device you know or anything like our first to receive because rumors are that they're going to push out you know the Nexus 7 tablet so chances are we're going to get a tablet here in a week at i/o and in the very near future 4.1 is going to be pushed out first to that version of the galaxy nexus and then you know who knows it could be in a weeks months whatever before it hits AOSP and then the gsm version and then in 2013 Verizon's will be enough why why I've got the verizon version the developers are ported over soon enough exactly you know as soon as it hits AOSP I i would say give it a couple days you know at most and you'll start seeing Papa towers yeah you know we'll start someone will build an AOSP build from it right away and throw the binary there's a handful of proprietary binary is he a Fatah Sam yeah yeah I mean we'll get it so I take that what you will I'm pretty you know fingers crossed and confidence extremely high the Play Store doesn't lie I don't need 4.1 it's coming very very very soon yeah yeah the place where doesn't lie and Google doesn't roll so the hell out of people so did they do that on purpose that's the next question right I wonder if it was another marketing scheme which I assume it might be but it makes sense you know like like if you remember last actually earlier in the week the google i/o app was was updated for 22 well in this one of the screenshots showed the actual new well it looks like it looks like ICS because that's what yellow he looks like but it had a different search widget at the top it was the white opaque know Aloha paste the search bar the same one during the thumbnail so those match up it also had the timeless that is 25 out of 10 ya know that there's 25 hours a day that was done on purpose what does that mean tell people are saying October 2015 something so either Windows XP is being relaunched on that day or something have to happen on that day maybe yeah i guess the i just find out a week right mayor they set it to know boom time moon time talking about it's not ours new moon day but so I was talking about tablets with jelly bean Google i/o and stuff I want to bring up just kind of being other player in the game I believe that it's a true player that is trying to lay all our cards right now um Microsoft and they released their surface windows windows it aight RT tablets and is there going to be a big demand for these types of tablets a pc in your hand and and it's rumored the the price is rumored to be around six hundred dollars for the RT version and about 800 and 900 Oh Probert which runs a full version of Windows 8 let's be clear about Windows RT that is not a full PC experience it arm yeah yeah it's only metro and unlike windows 8 pro the pro tablet that you know is still x86-based so we can run every program that's been written windows on any version of windows in the last 140 years yeah yeah this new one can run only programs that have been written yesterday specifically targeted to it yeah the new one the pro that would be the windows RT it can all be ours me run nigga it like so all of the windows software that you have can't use them yep and in terms of marketing this consumers they're putting tablets that look almost identical next to each other and saying buy them this one over here it can do everything that every computer you've ever owned can do and doesn't have office on it and this one here can't do anything that any computer you've ever owned can do but it comes with office so it's all better yeah it is it's really a wake-up call people by their bodies version and they think that they're going to be uninstalled or anything for getting a windows computer no one it's going to be like it's going to be like the the kindle fire they thought it was a real tablet it's more of a consumption device I think it'll be kind of one of those times you know I when I saw it you know my Microsoft has an insane market share so I think that alone is going to be good for them bad for existing you people in the tablet space but then I saw a report the next day that said Microsoft is only selling the tablet online and in their 20 retail locations so 20 locations the entire world how many people walk in there how many people know where a Microsoft story is I don't have no clue can they don't even know they well I got them all American so I assume that there's one there to sell so building a feel of what New York City probably has one so we all want at least me you a small America maybe two so yeah travel hours to the to wherever this store is to go play with that you can't go the best buy take a you know fries or whatever you're not going so you go online and buy it so they're pushing this new technology that no one else has ever used before that they've never had distributed anything like it and yet you can't even pay even try to have a great buy it that's hopping kind of pass anyone does anyone remember a few years back when Microsoft marketed the surface technology and did anyone see the video where it was the top of it or a table yeah yeah form a they hate for other bill wise yeah circle I love me yeah you see this really brilliant like social computing sort of experiment and then they scrapped the name and they're clawing at something stupid like pixel some such now oh yeah as of like a day ago I don't know Microsoft was doing I yeah just bad decisions left and right yeah and bring back two phones how about Windows Phone 8 not being available for any existing Windows Phone device like what are you kill me but when you look at your lack ship windows phone nokia lumia 900 bia real brand new phone and find out in six months it will be completely dilapidated well now you're going to get some paid action but it just would be 78 no well and even one those are the most hilarious thing about the seven eight it's so it's what they did with vista and windows seven basically you know they gave it a slightly different start menu and kept know the underlying come on say it it's going to be a new you're gonna get the same home screen and that's really about it yeah nokia is trying to talk up the fact that there's are going to get a lot of the apps that they're providing to Windows 8 Phone or Windows Phone 8 but only the Lumia is gonna get those not any of the other existing I think the biggest thing that we're going to get out of this is competition I think Google is gonna one-up them and I think it'll be good for consumers in the end evil mayor written now yeah I don't think it's competition there on thurs like high low key items are we dos coded America than using symbian cynthians never even been marketed in this country and there's almost as many people using that as Windows Phone ok this is in competition but you need to figure out that the market share windows-based pcs is insanely high upwards of ninety percent so they could weigh that market share as off as well as xbox integration if they have a huge ecosystem that they're trying to pull together so I wouldn't underestimate them but I like the fact that they are in the market competing there's a problem that they're going to have is now they're trying to compete with ecosystems if at this point you're smart enough to realize that you're subscribing to an ecosystem you've already subscribed to one and changing at this point is not something that you're going to just want to up and do with your random untested windows 8/rt things the camp honey exactly you know I I think you microsoft is going to sell some because I mean xbox with pockets you know businesses use it you know ah there's my they're going to sell stop it's not a flaw but uh I think I think I might flop well little will see it I play one on on Episode seven the UH about a map kouri pissed at each entry draft give it two years there's yeah alright so let's move on talk about some more things we know more about you know android stuff right let's talk about the samsung galaxy tab line edward earlier talking about ICS update in heaven that we have an ICS update coming to every single galaxy tab except for the original seven inch tab which samsung said a long time ago the original seven inch wouldn't get due to hardware restrictions so nothing new there but they did say that the ICS updates are scheduled for july and august so here here in a month you should start getting them on every single version the Wi-Fi and 3g versions every form factor and yes oh yeah that's my snug you know there'd be people informed i'm just waiting for them to get the camera functional on cm9 i'm not going to install the TouchWiz for my galaxy tab 10.1 they I'm not going to do the OTA I'm just going to wait until the devs get the everything lined out for the camera and whatnot and we also have a another tablet update just have authority has ICS so anybody go stability update to the Asus Transformer Pad 302 guy over the air update earlier this week add the Wi-Fi fix it gave me some better audio better camera focus better came with performance you know I even know I said I don't like taking pictures from a camera hey you can improve the one all right but but most importantly it apparently improved the Chrome browser stability and I mean that's an amazing browser so yeah yeah by all means improving improve that stability on our on our tablets good job asus so you haven't gotten that yet go ahead and hit about tablet check for updates yo yo you know the drill its version nine point four point 3.30 um moving on here to app and rom news us not what we got we got a swiftkey three that's now available in the Google Play Store or one week it's fifty percent off so that makes 71 99 um I used to use swiftkey and then I've got the stock ICS keyboard and I stuck with it because it's better I love to stock ICS keyboard I admit it is perfect for when I use it for my fingers are not formally typing I don't have big fingers so I don't really necessarily need the prediction now on my old droid x it was useful but ICS hands down you know what uh I i agree i was a big swiftkey user on my incredible but the moment I got my god see Nexus back in December you know i love the ICS keyboard but the other day whenever it was announced i download it i tried it for a half hour um I figured you know what it can't be that bad for one the 2012 webby awards and it won and it won the most innovative app you know uh 2012 Mobile World Congress it has to be decent right so I i downloaded to give the new version to try and i even put in the holo theme so it look like ICS and it's the same keyboard i remember you know a parent you know with anything it gets better no predictive text gets better the more you use it I only used it for a few minutes and I said this isn't benefit me if I already used it for a week I probably wouldn't notice the difference I bet but I didn't give it that time and I wanted to get my refund before before it ran out so yeah if you are famished with the you know for tablets the split functionality on tablet act is pretty nice I'll tell you that right now if you're holed up your tablet and trying to type if you can split it down the middle and just use your thumbs on the side the type it's that's pretty nice so that might be worth two bucks right there so go and check that out on the google play store um real quick about rom news on main thing that caught my eye this week actually and i was actually corrected by Steve Kondik so Steve Steve is cyanogen from san jinn mud um we posted the story about how Steve made an executive decision to not use linaro code in cm9 then I posted on google+ and actually tagged steven the post and he corrected me saying that that's not really all entirely true and you know I feel like bozo because yeah I know that for a fact I've been watching cm's Garrett and I've seen Lamar Oh Cobie be merged and approved and I've seen a bunch of sick you but you know my Peter Pan is you know took a hole in there and I didn't dud and follow up with that anyway since Steve said they've already merged much of a llamar of code and more sitting in the queue but he did say though is that he doesn't think that the GCC which is the new see compiler version 4.7 is a great idea he said that more work still needs to be Donell on it 4.7 is still to bleeding edge and makes it harder for developers by breaking features or breaking devices so too because of that they're going to stay with something a little more stable of because you know cm supports insane amount of devices so what works for one is not going to work for everything and they won't try to make it stable for all their devices so with that said Steve you know of I agree that's you know what you guys are doing you need to be stable on as many devices as you can so yes you guys are doing it right so yeah thanks for clarification on that then patent wars uh we have a few things this week that happened in the world of patents not um the well Apple's going to be paying for damages oh yeah it which is nice right we love to hear that yeah I like that it's like to get that out there um but basically Samsung was saying that Apple was free writing their technological innovations and basically they're going to seek compensation for the damages from the apple and its product its products had caused so this is good news for android fans and it's good news i mean i don't like the fact that patent wars are even there um you know it's corrupt i think but um it's the system but yeah but yeah but it was a 3g patent actually yeah yep the important thing with the decision was that they did not allow the import ban because it's what's called a fran patent or a standards-essential patent basically the court said yes you're absolutely entitled to damages and the longer that things go like from the decision until once those damages are finally paid they keep accruing and then basically they're basically they're forcing Apple to agree to to royalty terms more or less Google and Samsung and others have gone around and said look we had all of these standards essential patents because you know these are companies they've been making cell phones for decades not just the last couple of years like Apple so they have one or two patents to do with making cell phones go figure um but they have the license done because in order to make a cell phone you have to use these patents yeah but apples been refusing to license them saying oh no these are fair and reasonable terms well now they're going to get terms whether they like it or not I'm excited to see what comes with this oh that for hearings on we had some other news in the in the patent war space i believe too right oh yeah girls are not going to pay anything to own it um and nothing so how much per six billion dollars yes yeah google you and Larry Ellison got any money we just bought when I you know he bought ninety-eight percent of Hawaiian Islands so they don't yeah but what not but really I mean I don't even know there was something that was for sale if you were having you'd buy it to the venue do with the Android but uh the you guys remember the nine lines of rain check code and and handful of decompile java files well those are the only two things that Google could have to pay damages on to Oracle and most it can be three hundred thousand dollars which you know it is nothing now when you will have a hundred all cash or 50 billion whatever was it so 50 yeah yeah yeah 15 so three other jobs dollars uh that's that's almost laughable so work will said yes clean up from six billion dollars it's a waffle said we're not going to pursue the edges um that's not worth our time we're gonna go ahead and try to appeal this decision that the judge actually asked when they said zero dollars in damages just like I'm sorry is there catch ya know no sir no cashel really know last but not least carrier news the two little tidbits information here the verizon they're constantly expanding their 4g network they announced this week that 46 new markets we're going to be lit up and 22 existing markets we're going to expand go ahead and check our website for the full list i'm not gonna name you know 60 different towns and cities but there it spread all throughout the entire country you know there's everywhere with me you know i got chef on that one too yeah but getting idea how widespread that market coverage of 4g is there currently out to 304 markets and their goal by the end of 2012 is over 400 markets so i think there they are on track and these updates are also 4G is definitely awesome last but not least i have a rumor from an anonymous source he told me earlier today that AT&T is definitely going to be getting shared data plans similar to verizon's and they're going to launch in about a month he told me they're going to launch the last week of July nobody else has reported on that this is the first announcement of it so yeah take that with a grain of salt but I trust I trust my source so whoa we'll wait for a tan theta officially announced that but you know those two you know verizon and AT&T and a piggyback and copy each other all the time so chances are it's gonna happen oh and why are we sharing funny things to laugh oh I love you Plus hangouts okay so ya see do we have any questions here and we could we haven't checked questions in a while here um nope i saw one though I think Adrian asked if I had routed the s3 and yes i have routed it i installed the paranoid android rom yesterday so completely straight away from TouchWiz and i'm happy to say don't around just might android available for the s3 yeah i made a video review that should be out tomorrow as you guys can check that out on the android authorities you too ya know and we'll share that on google+ to us you guys can check that out that's awesome on i I'm a big fan of that wrong even though I have not aired on my galaxy nexus don't know why I just haven't but I love everything about it and all the screenshots one of these days I'll put it on enough Oh y'all about to you guys but yeah that's great it's available for it you know it makes perfect sense because yeah the s3 has CM and paranoid android is built off the CM so very good to know very good to know definitely I've also overclocked a device i installed sigh as colonel and i flashed it and then I got the care of date wasn't one morning at one point eight you know I was getting edgy but it runs fine it was stable so very nice very nice okay well wrapping up I just like to reiterate the fact that um if you can't make it every Friday night we were going to have it every Friday night nine thirty eastern time and if you can't make it subscribe to youtube channel to get updates on our show as well as rom reviews app reviews Clayton's going to be doing a large portion of that it's causing some stuff phone reviews as well and check out android authority calm for any news related to amber I like the thank Derek in team and staff and everybody else manager authorities for welcoming Scott and I to the android authority team we're very happy to be here it's great to be under your wing and it's great to take this initiative in the future and is that we've been doing this on google+ for the past 16 weeks so it's nice to reach the size of audience size half we greatly appreciate the opportunity oh it's uh happy to have you on board and good things to come yep definitely definitely so speaking of good things to come I'm not let the cat out of the bag but keep checking the website uh Andrew authority calm once again Clayton thanks for joining us and Dan returning guests thank you for being here Derek thanks for announcing the sgs3 giveaway remember good android authority calm and check the post you have a few more days through that when does that expire there uh one week you from now so one week alright yeah was that treason yeah like sleep all right all right thank you guys have a good night it's been a pleasure