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good evening welcome to android authority on hair the original android hang out chill on google+ I'm dare cross I'm Scott Anderson this week we're joined with 3 special guests we have returned gasps Francisco Franco he is a popular chrome developer for multiple devices if you're under the routing and robbing I'm sure you've heard of them we have returning guest Derek Moore who's a fellow android enthusiast and we have john curley with us as well in first time on the show but he's a longtime friend of the android community welcome everybody so this week was pretty much Android Christmas right Scott yeah google i/o long 2012 once a year definitely release everything new coming on jelly bean and we're all excited about that and we're kind of going to be going over that a little bit later in her show um but the agenda for tonight is going to be we're going to be talking about some internet statistics I've got some numbers released how many devices are getting activated we're then going to be going over jellybeans in depth then a lot of google app apps got updated a lot more functionality and then some devices that were released the nexus 7 the nexus q and then we will end with a little bit of some rumors all right so let's talk about the stats real quick so Android is huge right I mean that that's why world period Android is a force to be reckoned with last year at i/o 11 there were 300 million devices a year later there's 400 million devices and a million of those devices are actually being activated every day now so from about a month ago when it was 950 yes I predicted it would be a nice milestone for i 0 12 and guess what here we are a million devices a day that's that's insane that's actually 12 new devices every second of every day so as the show's been going on now for a minute we've had roughly you know five devices activated that's nuts um the Play Store is growing too there's 600,000 apps available to play store and that leaves us with about 20 billion total downloads that's that's insane like I said Android is is growing leaps and bounds now let's bring us to the Android Christmas as I said android 4.1 jellybean was officially announced officially released to certain people um on Wednesday first day of i/o and during the keynote it was just gift after gift after amazement left and right up first thing I want to talk about is project butter and you know the saying you know smooth as butter that that's pretty much what project butter was all about um they were doing things such as you know setting a standard is 60 frames per second across the board for for jellybean ah good triple buffering and they're ramping up cpu on screen touch so when you touch the screen that means you're going to do something so boom let's make sure you know we're using this much power it is possible that way it's not slow there's no lagging it's whenever you touch the screen so it's a jelly bean is the most responsive fastest most fluid version of android to date um i know that some of us in here Derek myself Francisco and John are all using jelly bean and said Mr aight guys i mean is it not project butter is it not as smooth as butter fat oh yeah it's in theaters now Francisco use it you said before the show a few interesting things that as a kernel developer you've actually seen some of the project butter commits in the android kernel code is that right yes I've been following Android Oh mop the tree for a long time and I've been emerging patches along and in one of the patches like one month ago was to the interactive governor and was exactly like we see on the project butter when we enable that option we touch the screen and cpu just ramped it up basically to the medium processor frequency so we've been secretly with and without knowing testing one of the functionalities of this project butter so it's kind of nice seeing what they actually did on the colonel side blaming it on an ICS rom right now and using your kernel and possibly other kernels as well could be seeing that cpu performance increase if they're using your cut one of those custom kernels yes that's right but i have to say that how's the work on the project butter is Colonel the other out health is on the android system so we can see some improvements from that edge but not all of it and most of the improvement is on the Android that triple buffering does most of the work so we just see a tiny bit of the improvement this nice to see that some attack be back for a little bit by the development community Justin even just a little bit let me know though every little bit helps so I wonder how much does it ramped up the CPU does it go to a hundred percent does it go to 90 how much does it actually increase the CPU cycle clock cycle it depends because the system is always replica ramping down not only because of the touchscreen if the system is running applications on the background and I touch the screen maybe it ramps to the maximum if the system is not using anything else if I touch the screen maybe tramps up to the next frequency maybe to the other next frequency it depends on a lot of things not just my pressure not just to me using obviously it helps a lot because we need that frequency power so for the Messiah decipher the user space changes there a nice talk at Google i/o called for butter or worse that was full of really horrible butter puns and it's actually up on YouTube right now chet haase a whole monkey the the the two tech leads on the project talked about it and apparently a lot of the improvements were from the the UH triple buffering I didn't realize they had some kind of bad buffer management problems and a pixel floor surface flinger that they by adding additional buffering and they were able to fix a lot of the latency problems then you know what I said it they definitely did I staff there thursday morning at and compared my phone my galaxy nexus running jelly bean which we'll get to later with somebody on ICS stock and just sitting there doing similar functions you know side by side i could definitely tell as well as I oh they did the demo too they have more much more sophisticated tempo than I did but uh yeah I can definitely tell was a lot faster yeah didn't it I oh they act like a 4,000 frames per second a camera and they did an ICS versa jelly bean and they kind of opened up the at work and jelly bean seems smoother and it beat it but it was very smooth yeah they use one of the cameras that Peter Jackson used for the new Lord of the Rings movie cameras are called wet so the red / juice yes someone seeing this can just go do it up right so beyond the performance increases we have a whole bunch updates did you know core functionality such as you know home screen widget which is neat yeah you know before in ICS in below you have a widget you add to your home screen if there's an icon in the way or another widget in the way you can't add it there you know it turns all red you've all seen it you know so we have to then not put the widget down we have to go movie icons all around make space to put that widget there and then and then we can put it there well that little hidden yo little annoyance is no longer there in jelly bean so as long as there's enough room on the screen for the widget it will move the icons around or pre-existing widgets around Hilda's danced all around the screen as you sit there and move up and down left and right and everything making room for the widget it's very nice it's something that you know you're like wow why should we should pad it's all along you know it's it's it's very very nice well Derek it's actually funny that you mentioned that because i'm learning ICS you guys are running jelly bean i was running making some widgets and I call it the red screen of death because it makes a little red and it's an it is definitely an annoyance and it actually has annoyed me a lot more recently knowing that the problem is no longer there well I'll tell you what's gone after the show we're going to root your phone we're going to put jelly bean on there so you don't have that problem anymore right buddy I went into a little bug I think related to that teacher today when I was you know dragging a bunch of icons out of the the icon drawer on to the home screen if I they wouldn't go into folders sometimes and the icons would end up chasing each other around the launcher screen it was it was kind of funny to watch because they the one icon would not join knowing folder so i think it's just a little bug they had stuff to work out before they release the final version i'm gonna try it no they are chasing anyone okays know Oh game it was so we had some other updates they say core functionality uh who here doesn't have a lot of pictures on their phone or a lot of albums and when you take a picture with your camera you want to cry after you open it off it depending on how many pictures has to load it can take forever you know me using a google plus and having a lot of different albums and posting pictures all the time wow it is so slow the gallery arm ice cream sandwich you know it I almost never wanted to even browse for an image to set as a wallpaper it would take a minute to search them all that's good enough if it's learning instance like it's nice day so but me on that you take a picture with your camera and the animation is completely change it it the image slides to the right so like a terrace all yeah yeah so yeah exactly so it's loves you watching it it slides to the right so um that's actually reversed it some left all right so it's like this is very fast I haven't tried it before yeah what the hell yes no no I used to hate that right so you see you take a picture right see you hold your phone up and take a picture you look at you like no that's a bad picture I just did it my bed oh you would have to delete it right no not anymore you just flick up it's a it's like a card doesn't come like webos sir other functions on ICS you know jellyby as soon as I saw that I thought that's that's classic Matias Duarte right there yes that's so good to see flip right off the screen there goes the bad picture you don't want big pretty girls having some fun right now I just want a picture like this disgust yes he can get me to sit down just flipped left right Boom Boom Boom Boom Boom it is it's funny you mean as you can see francisco's haven't I was like just flick additions around and I I thought that was amazing and it's something that you're like wow why didn't we have this before I mean it's very cool um Android Beam was that was a add some functionality to ICS was first introduced and you know what I've never used it in the past since December 17 months I've never actually not that's a lot I've been two or three things to people playing around but if you know current things you can being two people like contacts or a YouTube video or a web page and hell not hey I just took this picture all I want to send this to you okay what's your email address you need to go through all this crazy stuff well well now with the new version Android Beam and jelly bean you can beam pictures and videos right to people so now you take a picture and you can you can send it right there being very cool of course you have to have people to have NFC enabled devices that those are becoming increasingly more popular no you can send vanilla the wall yes I'll have I tried it no but uh oh I I wonder how big the file size sure there has to be a restriction you're not going to send like this and now long you know video Amy you know even a five minute long video is pretty darn law you know big and so I mean it depends on the resolution and whatever but I mean I don't know big you can a sudden be interesting to see what the threshold up on that is and uh you know also I said I haven't tried it because I don't have anybody is around me that's running jellybean but as soon as I find somebody that is I will try that it's like you said spot you know it might just be based on one side um so notifications got a very interesting overhaul what do you guys think about the overall they've got a huge overhaul awesome i love the multi finger gestures I mean that's just adding so much more functionality to your phone and it's just great we have more options you can can you make them all collapsed by default um because I know that the top one is always hot when the top ones Oakland it depends see we take a picture I'm sorry when I take a screenshot allure you or someone for you share a picture or take a picture yeah don't nobody here's one of your somebody shares a picture on google + pictures are automatically open more so than the third they're not collapse so you can see like a little preview of the picture so if I took a screenshot right now my phone it would show you know the top inch or something of a little preview look at that i'm teaching francisco sink industry sporting goods Lloyd yeah it depends on the knee priority of the notification there's there's a talk at i/o about that i think the the what's new in Android talk and they were talking about all the different pre they have different layouts for the new notifications and I thin you can also toggle they expanded the list of priorities for notification so I think if they're low priority they're not expanded by default and emails you know before you know any done eating just saw who was from I remember if you saw the subject really I don't remember okay Scott shaking his head no but but now I can actually see first couple words or lines of email a little snippet you pull down and you can see like 5k yeah yeah it's like the first six or something like that when you when you open it up oh you don't even me to go to the gmail out yes so widgets are now actionable yeah you know it's bigger not legit I'm sorry notifications it is very very neat the whole reason they did this is less clips I know you don't the cap around anymore oh I go and all you can embed action buttons into them to for you know calling back and whatnot is really really useful miss calls knew right from the woods yet that's the only one I've seen actually uh the past two days playing with it I'll know there's any other one knocked off my head I think they showed some proof of concept ones and one of the talks but I hope we see more soon now you can customize those notifications let's say for example a google plus I don't want any notifications from there I can actually go into that app and just say no more people plus notice the patients so you can turn off so if you have an apt it's annoying but you like it the app put it you know it sends you enjoy notifications you just turn it right off you don't have to worry about it just go just hold down on the notification app info and the check uncheck little boxes allow notifications and you're golden another feature that was released was offline voice typing which i think is an interesting feature you need a cellular connection to actually write things um pretty cool and if I mean if you're going to be doing a lot of dictating throughout the day and you don't have a good service or you just don't want to suck up your battery life kind of cool oh you know what I i I'm a fan of that somebody that commutes almost an hour each way to work uh every once in a while you know I want to set I want to send a text message key know maybe mom driving on a typo I'm driving because that's not that's not safe right again small amounts of things I don't do that but uh but but that doesn't mean that I won't hit the voice search button and dictate my text message I've done that before you know I'm sitting there at a stoplight or something you know you know it's dictated text message but I draw a line drive to work i drive through areas to have no service i live out no no we're right so i've tried to dictate a text message when i have no service and it just sits there searching and searching searching and then never sent and I generally get pissed and then that end up typing it out or something you know so that's very cool that's now rendered locally you don't have to worry about having servants I like it besides saving lives you shouldn't do that when you're driving but it's gonna be good Oh what else we got new here with jelly bean well we also got a high def or higher definition contact pictures yeah thanks cool contact pictures you know if they're out the right resolution they're going to be blurry and it's wasn't cool you know and that was a server-side problem if you sync your contacts let's say you had a high-resolution picture and gmail I believe her google contacts with dumb it down there like 125 x 125 and then ICS to make it like 250 x 250 but still it's enough you know that's nothing so there must be more of a back-end change maybe I'm heard in one of the side chats that the system wasn't going to allow it to be over the size to be overwritten by other services I haven't tested it yet to be honest with is but it's a very cool feature though that I know that now I'm talking about on the test and try it out later we also got a phone app updates smart app updates or basically it looks like you download an apk in order to update that APK it's actually going to add the additional code in the apk and not make you redownload the whole file so basically what Google said is that the data usage is actually cut down to one third um which I think carriers will like and I think people that or not not on an unlimited plan will like that well actually saw wood interior not like that because now they're not you know I'm using as much date oh yeah I mean you can look it users or users are going to make claim the loan on their network is hurting now one thing that we're not sure on that is that might not be a specific to jelly bean update because it's a Play Store update so and from what i remember reading is that devs don't actually have to do anything you know it just all happens on the back end all they have to do is upload their their new app and it'll go through bit by bit looking at what has changed so if a developer completely redoes their app that's and that's gonna be a full apk you know it's gonna be a big download but if somebody just looks a like Angry Birds that's a new level now the only Adele abebe up so yeah that's not it means faster downloads less data you know that that's very cool and from I oh I believe it looks devices from 2.2 or 2.3 and higher that will get that but I do believe is the Play Store upgrade very cool very cool oh they're doing is they're also encrypting apps now that you've if any paid app is now stored encrypted I'm guessing that's to cut down on piracy yeah you know which helps out developers such as a Francisco that has a few apps on the App Store what do you think about that and it's piracy we have you noticed anybody uh you know parting your apps yes are you a fan of the app encryption than I assume I haven't read much about it but the concept seems cool the piracy happens piracy gist everywhere so even for applications that cost like two heroes come on people just copy the apk and share it but we can just add some licensing and it helps a bit so seeing google come certain RC it's it's very good let's hope this helps in theory well last but not least i wanna spend a man or two here talking about google now and voice search in my opinion besides the state performance the coolest most exciting features of jelly bean um I know that that's pretty much the most i've played with even though it it's you know it might get redundant after a while in the honeymoon phase I think it's gonna wear off because people now is more than just a assistance ok that's a gift a starting with this here so voice Actions has been around since august two thousand ten i believe yeah so yeah android users have had it boils huge just know maybe wasn't as good because it wasn't an AI you know it didn't give comical answers but you know you can always say send a text call remind me to you know simple things like that it's always done but the new voice actions are previously were there instant they're completely accurate i haven't had any problems at least um they're very very fast I mean like I said the learner near instant and depending on the answer of the query the question you asked it's going to be dictated back to you which is something that's you know something that's new a video on youtube comparing Siri to Google now a 10 interesting video just probably go look at it yeah I actually did that Thursday yesterday morning with a co-worker that has an iphone and I SAT there with her iPhone and hit the head Siri and head voice google search voice search everyone follow I hit them at the same time and did did a few things and I I was amazed it's after its near instant the results were better uh some of the things that you can ask that I've played with and figure it out I made a post about it earlier where'd it go alright so you can ask for well you know simple things like you know what time is it obviously um you can ask things like like the commercial saying you know do I need an umbrella today what's the weather tomorrow I lost the weather right now no is it going to rain Saturday Sunday Monday Tuesday insert a day of the week what's the weather next Saturday you know things like that you can do that you can find dates I can say you know when is Christmas this year what what day of the week is the fourth of July for mine meet up to make a google plus posted 8 p.m. remind me in four hours remaining me in 12 minutes you know set alarm you know the time now things you couldn't do before sports fans are gonna love this i can say i can say hey did the yankees play today all right hey what's this for the yankees game you know you're you're you're visiting an area right and you see I'm really hungry for panera bread for lunch take me to panera bread how do i get to panera bread show me the closest panera bread you know and you're going to get directions on how to navigate there um now simple things you can say how old is or how tall is a certain person might have to be a famous person obviously so you know if use like you know president of a country prime minister or the country now let me on somebody like that drop a bomb on something or if you say you know uh Larry Page how old is Larry Page how tall is here you know things like that you can ask simple questions basically what you can asking people search right now and it talks back to you um you can have it play music or youtube videos like I can say or play Radiohead play Coldplay nothing and things like that and some artists it didn't work for but the summit did it it brought up playlist or fraud songs they might play music and if I can have it I can choose to play something by them on YouTube you can it's been in the past you say send a text and an email to person hears the message until the call but since it is google search for everybody that has jelly bean right now I hit the button and say do a barrel roll your dog does it do it yeah it does it wait no do a barrel roll do a flip around it's it's it's loading right now I'm on it just it just brought up the meme that I know your meme page why do a barrel roll mine does it mine flips around I'll try to add up to a barrel roll John is your slip around yep yeah if you'll a barrel roll yeah so if you say tilt it'll tilt okay so basically to sum up for a voice search and Google now it is a nexus that's just something I voice search we haven't even touched people now have google now it's a completely different animal but those are tiles as well those are tiles but that's voice search google now is automation google now has honestly google now is not has nothing to do with with voice search is now from google now you can do searches and the more searches you do with voice search does make google mouth better for example if i search for sports scores that's going to then google now is going to say all he's interested in the Yankees so we're going to start showing him Yankee information so they are related but they're completely but there are two separate animals so have any you guys play around people now it did down scared me yeah I wanted it's eerie well after I put it on there i went to work and it apparently knew where I worked before like I didn't touch anything on the Google now but it's it said like 27 minutes to go home no traffic delay and I'm like okay you know i'm at work and where I live without me actually entering it in its kind of freaky well very helpful now they do did you ever enter that information into latitude at some point latitude yeah all over your working because that's where i can actually gets home and work from latitude but yeah I i installed it late late night Wednesday night and I look at it and it's like 58 minutes to work to what the hell like ever I was I was very surprised so yeah so I did not to get it confused that Google now it's complete automation um remember that patent that maybe like a month or two ago was found if you go filed for last fall and we're all wondering hey is this that you know is this a google assistant with it is but it's a it's you know it's you now it's more than just the assistant it automates everything world oil domination from google yeah so so a personal example i'm at work um it tells me how long it's gonna take me to get home the opposite it tells me the weather outside but neat thing is it looks around where I'm at and says all well is he going to go to you know hey look here here's a beaver stadium you go watch a football game here's the Bryce Jordan Center go watch a basketball game here's the creamery go get some ice cream you know it's giving me locations that I around to go do things and then it also says you're standing you know great right outside here and there's a public transit system here so I get the bus schedule in front of my building because the bus stops there so I can and I mean it's amazing so if you're visiting an area you don't know if I stop is one oo schedule is you put on your phone you look at it and then it's going to show you where the bus stop is where the subway is what the what trains to take you know what buses to take everything so but Jared I wondered do you ever check the bus do I well you know what I do take it around campus because Penn State University is huge okay so I'm just wondering like get it oh if it gives you the card of you know public transit let's say you you know disable that that one turned on by the way I can swipe it away well it will pop up again until the data changes that's the thing a lot it scared a lot of people like oh wow these are all these are cool you know then they get rid of that notification or get rid of that card and then there's a ball I broke it oh my god i broke i take it whether back how i get leather back well it's not going to show you the information until the weather data changes don't worry you didn't break it you know whether doesn't update instantly know it gets it from a third party source so whenever that weather data is updated that means the card will be restored or notification I'll be restored but Google now said gives you right now information on whether as we said traffic so as Johnson tamiya he doesn't more metropolitan area than I do so first road construction it might tell him how you need to go this way home because there's construction if you search for a flight number then you're most likely flying it assumes so you're going to get flight data sports you know maybe Yankees others talking about a train you can do translation currency if you're in a different time zone will tell you your time back home and I said it in places up there looking to add more cards as time goes on but brought me right now it is very quiet I as a service that I would use on a daily basis if I was away from home be generally around him I don't think I need to use it like one con it's kind of an annoyance every place I've checked in around town if I poor if I pull it up right now it'll tell me how long it takes to get there every place I've checked in because i knows my location data in those places I've been so I see like all the gas stations and restaurants or in the lake and everything and tell me go here go here to here here ah but I can just swipe those away so anybody else been using google now I've been ranting and raving back for a few minutes here anything I missed you like it you can use it definitely is i mean i've been using a fully search for 22 years now i think so it runs off my voice it knows i don't have to rip I don't have any issues with it really I mean it it's amazing I'm speechless on before we move on to big rapids you go app updates uh uh a whole bunch of questions thought you were uh yeah I got a um what would you guys recommend the Galaxy Nexus erator the galaxy s3 well now the jellybean just came out money answer is gots next to some onion eric Moore well uh well I I'm always been a nexus fan but the someone ported jellybean to the International unlocked galaxy s three as well so you know go android community I mean I'm I have to say I'm really just amazed at the community this thing's been out what two days and it's already on three devices now sometime in the afternoon and okay I was running it at eleven-thirty yeah it's turns out anyway although you might yup yeah Galaxy Nexus or of sgs3 hmm i have both devices and i can tell you that the galaxy nexus became as smooth as the galaxy s3 so little of the exes so you would say next is then because of its update ability or now i still prefer to use the galaxy s3 so the galaxy s3 i mean it might even get faster with the jelly bean update oh I hope so how are you John the master of phones i think every week I talked to your on a new phone so good but your what you take on I got to stay with some exes I hate overlays I mean it the Nexus here you know so what are other questions we have here Scott um we have a question that looks like about clockworkmod so using clockworkmod touch 5.8 point 0.2 um are you able to make a jelly bean back up down eric s looks like you tried twice and fails i'm using twerp I know works on twerp John you're using clockwork right yeah I used 5.8 point 0 2 and I was just able to do it right now after the question always posted okay so yeah it looks like I mean it might be a case for case basis but uh said John's able to do itself and I am on the gsm version on know if that's going to be what the difference is if he's on LTE r ya try to remember here Erica talk to you before I don't remember if you're you're on LTE or you're on which Mary you're on be a so it looks but I can do it on what's work a derecho you have the LTE version did you do a clockwork mod backup I haven't tried to back up jelly bean yet I have the ICS back up but not jelly bean yet yes yes back not mine went by mine that's that's a horror story I can talk about after the up oh I love everything on my phone well he a long long story short there's two versions of jelly bean out there for the Galaxy Nexus I'm not going to tell you which one to run ah because people were having hit and mrs. the boat but the droid vicious one I couldn't my phone wouldn't boot I had to fast food restore all the factory images but the the JD now it's called barren ve or whatever it's called that one that works great for me but said but you know people haven't hit messed with each cell you know your mileage may vary that's just my own personal experience but I was water I haven't no I've been restored to factory image is a long time i will now we're going to do some quick itself so over the past couple days we've got a lot of apps Google Apps actually updated first one maps google maps and earth earth brings three mapping capabilities and an update to google maps brings the ability to download maps for offline use now take into consideration that turn-by-turn navigation nap searching is still unavailable without a data connection which I hope that changes but hopefully soon placed are all also got updated to three dots 7011 place for website also allows you to remotely update uninstall and install android apps I won't get into the search features because the search function of the app store online is not there yet and like we talked about earlier app updates will make the double portions of the abk um if need be basically cutting down on the apk size for updates and also added to play store was magazines you can buy a singular issue or you can actually subscribe for a year and also TV shows you can buy a singular TV shelf rican by the whole season so content going up making it more desirable pretty awesome I think that's a great addition you know to a place till I mean there have something for everybody now you know we didn't want to do books well hey we got magazines you didn't want to do movies well you can actually buy the movie now you know and said just rent it uh you know maybe that was stopping you from doing it before maybe not like new but you're all about TV show maybe you don't have cable TV so they have something for everybody their ecosystem their content consumption you know his ability is growing if it didn't grow um the tablet that we're gonna be talking about soon would be less desirable so they need to actually keep their content growing um honest more apps Google Drive was updated I can quickly find files that you can have been recently opened or shared with you can also upload or download any file type or to your google drive which is actually really nice you can also select contacts to sure it easier that makes it very very easy to share on google docs also it has some faster navigation and faster navigation while syncing in the background and you can also align your text in the document editor um currents gotta fit in as well basically a little bit it's a lot faster it goes hello holo theme it's now actually an aics or jelly bean hat you know yeah that was the first thing I knows yep looks a lot different I think it looks better I got some things that hide automatically and get some trending topics as well which is kind of cool on the Google+ update on google+ app got updated actually got a phone update and it actually has a separate everyday for talent the same same APK but it's a it has tablet mode now which i could for the past year you know we've been hearing people yell i want to tablet mode you know in you know what do it worked on tablet it was a tablet mode but i was was a you know zoomed in phone mode you know there was tons of white space or black space depending on which I virginal yap he had it would just felt weird using it from a tablet gyasi I hated it I never used it for my tablet just isn't right but but uh now listening derrick's dog has a mind of its own yeah yeah so I podcast people hook my dog is sitting on my chair and he is a cute little bastard i love you anyways uh so so was i talking about such keep dogs um pouco plaza google+ that yeah the tablet app is in his night I want to use the tablet app or I want to turn my phone in landscape mode so it looks like the tablet app you know it it's nice like I don't I'm telling you what this is the answer to everything that people wanted for Google+ so if you're not happy with the tablet mode you're never going to be happy because it's definitely absolutely amazing nothing um personally I hate the fact that you swipe the side ah you know like that I like that my big fan of it I mean it's still a lot better than it used to be um but it just left or right or I don't know if anybody else notices I was just actually invited to hang out that cook on my Nexus you can now bluebox people and you have the people showing on the bottom individual videos Wow tell pearl sorry I declined her hang out but yeah you can actually blue box people you got all the videos at the bottom of everybody in there now very interesting moving on YouTube got updated a much-needed update in my from my point of view um nice you are changes yeah I like him it's kind of going along with the new plus phone you I kind of get that side bar that you can bring over I like it and then you also preload videos over Wi-Fi while charging well in you can you can preload two types of videos so all my subscriptions I can preload those or you know how you have that watch it later feature on what you guys i've never used it um now maybe I'll I want to because what anything that I tag is a watch it later it'll precash those as well so very very neat doc I might try it out I have but one thing is you actually do need an internet connection to actually watch those cached videos so it's not like you're downloading the video which is uh what we're just completely understandable just let's say something got you know copyright it and it got uploaded to YouTube you cast it then hey I got it interesting i did not know that so let's well it's better than nothing not say that yeah and all the caches on Wi-Fi and wall charger so just listen I think that's pretty stupid I additive because you know why would you it doesn't make sense because they can catch the file somewhere encrypt it and still loading bullets offline well any problems and without anyone cracking it I don't understand the problem that's stupid if you cannot give you want to cash it you want to watch it later without internet connection third rule stupid anything you know Google movies and all that stuff a watch so and then chrome top did and notice how I didn't say chrome beta and I lost the beta test no chrome actually got a whole bunch of things but because of some recent developments with patent wars now I'm gonna say what devices chrome was now supported on because it may make people when it's hang out rage and break things but with that said yeah for Android it is now no longer beta has a scratch graduate hat on and everything so we're getting some questions about the nexus 7 I know I'm a lot of you Paula tuned in just to hear about that device so without further ado by the way this show is running a lot on movies we show no was going to run forever because we got her someone to talk about so Nexus 7 has a Tegra 3 processor now some people such as developers on a fan of that Tegra 3 processor but from a user standpoint you know it has four cores plus the one companion core and it's a one point three gigahertz set and so it's bad but uh said spec wise and we heard long these before right that's a 88 1 gig ram 8 and 16 gig storage depending on which version 7 inch screen 1280 by 720 you know no SD card and no rear camera but there's a front-facing camera which you know perfect because the device is so small affordable it's meant you know you can use hangouts on to be accomplices whatever but you cares about specs you know it's uh it's not really you know meant for that in my pain then you it's supposed to be fast and fluid portable you know lightweight easy to use consume content but besides all those marketing buzz words that make an amazing device as I said earlier that's a Tegra 3 and a lot of people don't like developing on that so it'll be interesting to see you know what type of you know customization in terms of kernels you know we get Francisco you want to talk a little bit about that yes I have a take away three in my home I have a 1x Tegra 3 is a fast chip there's no doubt about that the companion core plus 4 course is a nice idea but I think it's not very well implemented and it can cause some leg especially if you are using the companion car you can control if you are using the companion color of the quad core so you bought the control device and you are using one core I I don't like it on a colonel side the drivers are really hard to it I have a love of our time to read what they want to do the drivers the routines when changing the cores and going to the companion cord that's not very clear it's a clumsy called integra isn't very friendly to the open source community because i think they are controlling the tag well cpus on the colonel like a microkernel each other kernel or in userland have no idea what they are doing I can control what they do I can't over call the device because we have like six frequency tables come on it's not easy what not not easy I think no one will know the joy sorry you would like to see in a nomad processor or something Maximus I was hoping I was hoping they would introduce our map for 470 I would enjoy that but I think tango tango 3 maybe it's cheaper for them and after all it has four chords in the 12th Corps GPU so it's very powerful but I think not as powerful as accents quad-core so it's not bad at all but for the developer community I think it's not it's not nice I in my point of view it's just my pee I know we have another question anybody here pre-order a nexus 7 yep i reordered that non thing before noon when I so dare cross he did dirt muah ding up yup you did Franco assume you didn't I can't I can't tour the oh you can't oh you know like lady you could work on I yes I would but I can't order to put you okay John I got anything in a 16 gig order yesterday why would you order one beach I wanted for my car and then try and do a built-in car stereo system and personally is yeah now Derek more which one did good one today you would I got the 16 okay why did you get the 16 a couple reasons one I mean it was only 50 bucks to double the price so that's that's a pretty good deal and also yes even though a lot of my content is in the cloud there are a couple games that have really big downloads that you know are inching up on a gig just just for just for the game so if i wanted the extra space just for breathing room yeah I wanted something cheap I I got 88 for 200 bucks I you know I don't think I'm gonna have a problem don't do a whole lot of games I may I played what I may play born because that was the game they demoed and may have a pretty cool I was a cool give them but besides that game I mean I don't do game so yeah eight games will be on for me I do stream everything you know through google play now also in Google you move music and everything so I don't need local storage so if you're like me everything's in the clouds in the end I think the eight gates perfect but as Derek steady know ok if you're a huge Android gamer you might need some extra space or not John which one which one you gonna hook up in the car made bigger than 16 game the gig I have everything on the cloud storage for my tethering plan so I mean hang out mobiles uh music on the go if I can figure out to hook up the Q & 7 in my car it'll just be sweet now Scott could you work um episome so I'm kind of keeping maybe in the future on near future I'll decide in the next couple weeks now you have a zoom Wi-Fi or LTE el tee hee oh how does hot Sun yeah i'll just say no matter you'll get jelly bean is supposed to come out for the zoom here you know in the near future oh I was doing you're gonna get it yes uh 2380 months after you know what for what it's worth I heard a rumor earlier today a rumour Rumour a rumor that Verizon was looking at the end of July the Galaxy Nexus now that is an as you complete number there's nothing it's so like that rumor I like that are you talking enough so uh if that rumor is true then zoom LTE would probably get into this and that is a nun confirmed rumor somebody was talking about it I they're talking actually a lot of my posts on google cost so yeah I'm kind of on that note I mean I I think one of the most important things that Google announced that no one's talking about is the the platform development kit like they're actually going to give om's access to the source early and I really wanted to hear more about that because I think that's sort of the you know the Android upgrade Alliance take two that's how the fragmentation hopefully well you know yeah about em co co what's impossible it might alleviate it has to find out lead time I'll tell you what it's not going to hurt you know it can't hurt it can only help so it's like s Derek Moore said admits last year I 11 they announced the Android Alliance to get down timely updates and then we never heard from it again a year later so hopefully the PDK PSA okay thank you today yeah hopefully the PDK a platform development kit helps alleviate some of that pain okay so let's move on to the other device the ball with a blue / multicolor ring the Nexus Q um it's gone on sale for two hundred ninety nine dollars and basically it's a ball and as an Android computer um it's basically a social sharing platform um is what I got out of the google i/o and interesting functionality and basically picture yourself going to a party somebody's got a nexus q and you got a whole bunch of people with a whole bunch of music in google music and they got android phones go over to the house you make your own playlist the master playlist and it's just awesome because you're sharing your song or somebody else but the thing is you're not giving your song so I I know all they did that with the copyright so it's legit but it's pretty interesting I personally think it's overpriced what do you guys think it's a look-see nexus in the books we don't this Queen John girly bought one so let's let's hear from the man had shield out 300 bucks for that I seriously didn't know what it was until about five hours after i bought it um I seriously just thought Nexus the deaf community is going to make it to where it needs to be so I had no worries I see this being a replacement for my blu-ray network player welcome to my netflix the deaf community actually got a game running on I believe yeah 24 hours yeah yeah which is I mean get some up there so Gorski situation I just have a giant death star / email looking device you because yeah it allows you to socially choose what you want to watch and what you want to listen to besides that the streaming functionality is in devices that are you know like the vizio google TV they only cost a hundred bucks it's two hundred dollars cheaper so I'm really not sure what's gonna happen with it I mean it's very cool I can walk up to it because it has NFC and tap it so that's cool but besides like a deep gadget I don't see a lot I don't see besides like techies buying you know what see any use for it I I don't not know why Google just didn't integrate this into the google TV um because that would make sense that this product in a Google TV let's make the google TV costs 150 maybe even 200 if it had all this functionality yeah might be worth buying it 150 I think would be good yeah I don't see how this integrates with the rest of their product line I mean it seems like it's what sort of competes with Google TV and if you just want to socially play music I mean there's other apps you can use to do that I mean why not just use you know Spotify or something it seems that and that you have to have an android device interact with it just I don't see a lot of these getting sold but I mean it's more than just a you know a phone shaped ball and he actually has an integrated amplifier so you can plumb speakers right into it yes it can replace your home stereo your your home blu-ray player yeah but social sharing needs to be portal portable so okay I'm gonna plug in my stereo and then poet I gotta unplug it oh when I come home I got a blood back in that could be a nuisance I I'd like to see where it goes um I didn't buy 1i not going to buy one right now I'm going to wait a little bit John when you get yours let me know maybe I'll drop down to your house you're only like two hours away we'll play around with it I like some dog step on mike's st a square / place for our turntable channel and not just share music that way Chris so let's move on talk about jelly bean for other devices um as we're hinting out earlier and talking about earlier the Galaxy Nexus gsm actually be tacked to version from google the google play store that version was handed out at i/o and within a few hours of the deaths turning the phone on it received jelly beans the over-the-air update and then because our community is absolutely amazing you know they took nandroid backups and poured it over to the regular gsm version and then because our community is even more amazing people took that version and ported it over to the toro or the verizon LTE version now it's not and you know it's not compiled version it support to basically what they do is they take all the files that are supposed to be on the LTE version and drop them over to you know drop them in the rom remove all the GSM files edit some files at it some xml and small you know whatever on the standard porting routine and you have a as close to possible jelly bean ramen and said most of us been running it for a day or two generally without any issues mean it took a day to get some bugs ironed outfit it's completely stable i use it as my daily driver i would use it for the next year's my daily driver it works great um it has been ported to the 1x it's not fully working into some features don't work ah the sgs3 the galaxy s3 it hadn't pointed over to that but i don't think everything's working yet either now right before the show started you guys were and about it the nexus s image is being released is that what I heard nexus 7 all the nexus 7 image is okay I thought I heard you say Nexus S I was gonna say that's it that's really quick we heard the nexus s and the neck Galaxy Nexus gsm version as well as the zoom should be getting it in a couple weeks google announced that so if you have any of those devices and you're not into you know bleeding edge getting it before you're supposed to you'll get it here you know maybe two weeks or so as well that's when alsp is not dropped so we'll start seeing custom moms um I believe they are going to push through your speed in like ten days knock knock more HP comes first and images so I really will come faster than you think let's go to have that they put the nexus 7 images out there that means people already starting to already start ripping them apart making custom roms form which in my opinion you know I they got a silly you know give people you know play with it for at least a week figure its internals out and then start ripping it apart you know but that that's my opinion in word I'm sure we all think differently are we talking about porch I'm talking about I'm talking about running a custom rom you know i'll go ahead and read about it for a minute so I've read your I've read your post about that post yes long story short is people were making custom curls already in rom tweaks already for these ports now and these aren't fully stable ports good because the ports and there's already a couple things along with them so they go ahead neck throw more stuff into the mix by you know tweaking kernels puts roll wait a second let me explain the the kernel source it's stable comes directly from the source it's not hacked it's not kind of San I understand that the colonel sources is available yes so we can get and try to improve the reports experience and since we are going to build our next kernels based on that code there's no problem in starting to the changing so I understand that it's just that either I would prefer that if the two wrongs that are out there came with the stock kernel yes said of instead of fox kernel or you know franco.kernel they came with the stock kernel and then users could flash these experimental new kernels themselves I think that is an absolutely stupid to throw more bugs into the mix right off that you know yeah that's just it makes me know it makes the experience bad and but to be honest with you I guess the colonel but I'm running it's a stock kernel but I guess you compiled it actually yes I go to sources and I come pumped because they be installed the end the script leverett's r and says something I I see your name on it so but enjoy vicious put it off on his thread and it when i run that it says script thanks to Francisco Franco but but anyway I compared the build number of the colonel so what I'm running is the same thing as the stock kernel on the gsm version right now so it is that but in my opinion you know anybody that wants to flash these columns on their galaxy nexus is go ahead they're completely stable but make sure you download the stock kernel as well and flash that and then when you want to start testing or not bleeding edge stuff go ahead and uber these other guys connells me they know what they're doing but you know there's no there's no reason to throw more kinks in the mix from day one Satan's taste-off figure out how it works know how it works and then start tweaking it you know because anybody I tell the difference you know like it I would hate to see jelly beans before jelly beans performance or concept degraded because you know you're running a custom kernel off the bat I would be welcome sir concerning about years a user one twix than just colonel because the lungs are not based from source so i think that's more problematic than installing the colonel but I see what you mean you are I agree with you so hopefully he said hopefully somebody out there ports doesn't clean a hundred percent clean poor you Nellie drops the files and then it's the files that need to be that make support work and you know doesn't do any in it that be changes or whatever other people are doing but after all after all 40 support it's not the compound from source it's not the same thing I know beggars can't be choosers I should be happy with what I'm running right now but if it could be better i want to be better yes I week so last but not least I who watched the project glass keynote demonstration yep who had your mind one idea looks pretty awesome I am getting them instead yeah right now they're available at i/o for 1,500 bucks yeah is that a raffle price or is that I can purchase it if I have fifteen dollars you can purchase it it's not your purchasing it there was a good promise between you and google that when they did you get the first walking it the first ones and then you pay that yeah i just take this that's all I do now for those who didn't watch it I'm going to pull fine the video and post it later you need to go watch that it's a Google+ Hangout broadcast on air like this is right now just cool um they jump out of a blimp even cooler and they film the entire thing all the jumpers the skydivers whatever they're called all wear glass so we were seeing what they're seeing as they're falling to the earth in it you know then they you know scale down the building and ride bikes and and you always extreme me on sports you'd stop taking them to get up on stage to yesterday the glasses and everything that it was very very cool I absolutely loved it but because this was all very cool but why do you want another device catching more moments of you uploading them to Google servers they know what were you leave they know where you go then they will be like your eyes they will see what you see all to serve you better at I'm okay with that yeah I mean that's how they make their money they they need to know a decent amount of information about the people that they're serving at you because you know nine degrees on their business is ads so I it makes sense but it's up to the end consumer on whether or not it is worth it for them I mean if you're on other types of services if you're in skydrive or if you're on Facebook or on Twitter I mean your information is getting shared there too and they know information about you and it's whether or not you want to do it or not so let's remember that the end user wants to buy a 15 pair of glasses and show his friends oh my god i have a 1500 glasses look at me then user things like this most of the end user yeah but the 1500 is for the developer model only it's not for the end user that they're coming out 2014 okay okay sorry know what else is still it's still a bad idea in my opinion I don't want to share my house wine whatever I do with you it's another relationship but I think it's such a new new type of device that we don't really know what its gonna get used for yet I mean maybe it'll just be for obnoxious ad serving but I don't think mean the use cases they talked about so far you know people taking pictures and uploading it to share with friends and family and I don't really have a problem with that as long as it's not he's on no yeah i think it means they're looking at enhance you know enhanced your life so I think that it's cool i'm gonna buy one pending my wife Leslie spend much money I can handle your wife I got this well I don't know if I could afford over $1,500 for a pair of glasses I just don't know if I do it well I that that's for the developer version i'm not sure that the consumer costs will be lower yeah those ruling so good yeah so there's a whole lot other stuff that happened to google i/o um there's a lot to cover that we didn't you know additional information to cover it we didn't talk about there's anything that you would like us to touch touch on talk about for a few minutes here go ahead and leave us a comment and we'll do our best to talk about it but said we try to cover the main things that were most interesting and not most popular um they said that's that's really about it personally I oh we forgot to mention a rumor good is rumored according to to do I completely forgot about it I don't know why I did um silly there's no Griffin is two things there's a security feature was added to they face on lock um so let's say my friend got a picture of me I wanted to unlock my phone with the face unlock that's cool if now he actually can't because they added a feature that you have to blink um yeah I actually took a pic took screenshots that yesterday and I wanted to write an article an android authority about it I not busy last night and I won't be able to do it tonight but tomorrow as long as nobody else writes on the radio right up on that yeah it's not a blank I'll tell right now it's close your eyes for one second because I blinked you like after watching I'm blanking now and it didn't do it something there blinking blinking i'm like 'i didn't recognize you you know they tried again blink not again as I ok me close my eyes one one-thousand open and then it worked so whenever you try it you'll do a normal blank or even on delayed blank make sure you really wait a second so the screen can see your eyes closed and that's what it does it wants to see your eyes closed because then if you open your eyes quick enough you can see your eyes closed in the yellow and that small delay and then you can see it if I did authorize you so it's a neat feature though uh you build a picture off anymore and unlock it the rumor of us talking about is the nexus 7 might have a big brother Nexus oh yeah yeah digitimes reported that earlier that day at some insider information that a 10 incher is coming so if you're not used to holding the 7-inch or in your hands i know i had a question when you guys coming don't you guys think do you guys think that they will go directly an apple to compete with apple and offer a freedom freedom us are on the same prices too or do you think it'll be a you know we're going to lose money when we sell these but it'll be with content that we make it up hopefully both yeah yeah hopefully both go after the ipad and I don't know effectively happen you gotta some type of you know what ya mean they're selling the nexus 7 basically at cost so that they're you know an entirely trying to make money off content there just the same thing that amazon did but they were losing money right there was something like that oh well it's a rumor they didn't say out on when uh brady was an interview he didn't actually say you know how much it cost them you know what they were making or selling on it but you know since it's a Content device and it's sold too cheaply they're probably not making a whole lot on it and they're going to make it up with content similar to what you know amazon is doing four hundred dollars what do you guys think price point if these rumors true what do you think the price point will be you got to depend on the spec we can't go anything without the specs exactly so do you think it's going to be a full-blown tablet that competes with the ipad directly or do you think it's going to be a fever one with Nvidia's you know kai the low-end storage model of it I bet will be 300 Andrew bucks the high-end storage heavy yeah they let me know if they have a 32 gig version or something our owner will have a 16 gig or something like that or 3264 I don't know but the low end version will probably about 300 350 okay let me check CPOE questions here said the aisle lot information to talk about so um one thing about I oh they do one mention because it's hot it's a hot topic right now earlier today Apple and Google Apple and Samsung I guess had a legal ruling that may result in G God's Nexus getting banned in the u.s. not sure on that it all depends what Apple tries to do plus the judge didn't rule that song their patents such as slide on law you know the thing that people been doing for thousands of years at the door is patented by by Apple and Android uses that similar liquids of four patents once what one has to do with search multi-source search your dad yeah it was federated search the slide to unlock their data detector patent the same one they used against HTC and the fourth one was um on-screen keyboards with the predictive text input yeah so basic functions predictive text multi search functions so he would even affect jelly bean you know I mean these are standard functions and then phone if you could potentially affect quite a few smart phones yes I'm curious to see how Apple plays with this because if they go directly at Google then you know who's going back at apple and at mica temperature it will hurt consumers though because they'll be wasting money during number well and this is also subject to Apple posting I think a 96 million dollar bond basically the Apple has to put up some money in case this you know they lose that they can reimburse samsung for lost profits yep okay so if you have any other questions uh go ahead and hit us off and we'll try to answer them next week where we'll hopefully have some more jelly bean information to throw at you on a thank our friend John for joining us John Meza like I said he's a good friend of ours and then he does a lot about cell phones he sells them for a living so if you have any questions about what phones to get he's your man go ahead hit him up if you're into flashing custom kernels Francisco Franco just don't butcher his name like I did yeah you gotta say it's in a Portuguese accent or he'll know hate on you put a seizure before anymore what the heck could just go Frank and therefore a very intelligent does guys well happy to have it back on the shelf thanks again for watching and everybody have a good night slightly yay