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good evening I'm Derek Ross i'm scott anderson and welcome to android authority on air the original Google+ enjoyed hang out sho this week we are joined by returning guest tree moats a x android developer in it fellow android enthusiasts we're joined by johnathan franklin new guest this week he is a big Android stand and the fellow enthusiast and we're also joined by Aaron Caston of the big Android BBQ welcome guys glad to be here the Scott what are we talking about this week oh we're going to be talking about the Android BBQ we're talking to Aaron about a little bit of information on as to what it is and who its imports going over some software updates on some new device releases and we got some tasty Nexus 7 News to talk about towards the end okay so as we said we have aaron here from the big Android BBQ it's a yearly event i believe this is the third year it will be the third year come this fall and i'm pretty excited excited i've never been to one I've known this year and I don't really know a lot about it so so Aaron is a someone that's only seen a few videos from time to time you know he tell us a little bit about the Android BBQ um yeah I mean it's it's it's an interesting story so it all started at i/o three years ago okay I was walking down the street with I don't know if you know who Gregg Caryn is he works with Moby cartel and he's would be notions in Canada he was there as a developer and a bunch of people had met there for the first time off of twitter uh we'd all been big in Android enthusiasts and and I was like man this is such a fun event it's so great to get to know all these people you didn't know before you know you get him online but you never met them in person we should there should be something just to bring people together so I contacted a buddy that I knew in Austin his name is came on askari he's it's known as big cave on on Twitter and he's on google+ really great guy and we're we talked about it and we were like why don't we why would try something small you know just like 15 20 30 people you know will do in the backyard we'll throw a little barbecue so we called it our big Texas beta barbecue and we had 13 people show up everybody brought like 25 bucks and whatever they wanted to drink no that went towards towards food and we provided some drinks and everybody had a good time and I had some shirts printed up and you know it was fun and we decided you know and a lot of people on Twitter were like hey we wanted you know do a bigger one we want to come you know this looks fun so we I got with that first year I was working with the droid guy and we planned a barbecue that uh with 500 people show up Wow we rented a place called fiesta gardens in in austin texas we provided kegs of beer pretty much all you could drink Ray Walters cooked for us he's a well-known I think he's participated in some contests in one he's a professional master slow cook meat guy yeah he said he's our barbecue master basically so he cooked out for the first year I and hands down that was the best pulled pork I've probably ever had and it was just a really great experience a lot of people got to meet for the first time we had a lot a lot of really influential developers come out and get to know people and we learned a lot I mean I'd never planned in a bit before and neither had anybody else so there are a lot of work goes into that too you know there's a lot of behind that you know you got to pay for it that's the hard part you know is raising the funds to pay for it and and we really wanted it to be affordable for our attendees we wanted it to be as cheap as possible because you know I I'm looking at it as if I were going to attend this event I don't have much money so you know I wanted it to be as affordable as possible so we really put the burden on our sponsors for that you know where we wanted them to sponsor the event so that we could bring all these people together and really throw an awesome event and we did marie-jeanne answers right oh yeah we have Texas Instruments the first year they actually unveiled their cowboy guy who is like this android with cowboy hat mustache actually I have a this is cowboy this guy a little bit on there nice samsung they brought he was 6 feet tall they brought one of these guys out now first year that's first year samsung was there HTC was there I mean we really nailed some good sponsors and you know we left that on a really high note and we're really proud of what we had pulled off and I think everybody was really supportive nobody had a bad thing to say but we learned a lot we learned that our sponsors wanted was to connect with the developers that's really what they were looking for was to connect with the the people that they could either higher or get to use their SDKs and different things like that so we knew next year the following year we needed to transition more to making it something that developers would want to come to and learn now is it only geared towards developers or if I knew know nothing about developing would I still be welcome oh absolutely yeah it's we're never going to forget who we are like I said our first meetup was a meet-up that's all it was the second year it was kind of a enthusiast convention and then the the earth well that was the the beta barbecue preceded the original BBQ by about four months so the first barbecue was kind of an enthusiast convention the second barbecue was more of a an enthusiast convention with a developer focus if that makes sense so we we had some sessions last year we think we had like 12 sessions total and we that gave companies like Verizon and and texas instruments and Samsung and Spiro and the cyanogenmod team took a chance to get up there and speak to the community or speak to the the ecosystem of Android and that was something there's not a lot but I don't know that there's a really any other event that's kind of offering that enthusiast developer you know bringing just kind of the whole real community centric event right yeah yeah it's a melting pot of android developer android you know it's an engine it it almost seems like you know android social event of the year but then it's also for developers to do their thing to write the reason we've really started to shift more to the developers is because we're basically offering one product to two demographics we have our attendees who are very important to us really they're the heart and soul of the barbecue and then we have the sponsors who we can't make happen without them I mean they're the ones that that allow us to do the BBQ in the first place so so we have to cater to both of them and we have to provide a product and that it took it took me a while to learn that that's really what we're doing is providing a product to these people will provide a great experience product for our attendees and a great opportunity product for our sponsors and the sponsors really wanted developers that's you know that became abundantly clear to us so we need it all you gotta you gotta make this sponsors happy to know they wanted you fronting the bill for a lot of the event I'm sure yes I wanted to learn more our viewers wanted to learn more about the Android BBQ you guys online you guys a google+ oh yeah we're we try to we try to be everywhere that's that's the only way we grow we don't pay for any marketing we can't afford to we're viral we grow virally and we grow organically the only way anybody knows about us is if you tell them about it now this year I guess from you know from paying attention to previous events it looks like things are very you know a lot of things are happening for you guys you know you're going from it and outside venue to a state-of-the-art the conference center looks like this here right so you can actually see photos and all this is that cool stuff about the the venue and and in some previous years if you go to big Android BB q com or you can check us out on Google+ big Android b.b.q we're on twitter we're Android bv q and we're on facebook as I think big Android b.b.q as well I don't know him all my head so many social networks now yeah I know you have to be everywhere right yeah yeah so um you know this year we've got we've tried to be a lot more organized this year we moved indoors last year Texas experienced a drought like never in my lifetime I've lived here 30 years we've never had anything like we did last year this year hasn't been anything like that but because it was so bad last year the the venue we held it at is outdoors and it's grass fields but last year they were dirt field and when you have a thought or 800 people walking in dirt field you're kicking up a lot of dust when you have sponsors like Texas Instruments who are showing off their panda boards and am song showing off the galaxy s2 or whatever it was at the time you have dust on everything it wasn't I mean it worked out really great everybody had a wonderful time the sponsors were all really happy I think all the attendees were really happy but I got some feedback saying look you know that's not a good environment for for equipment electronics so and we had some difficulties with the City of Austin so we really gave it a lot of thought I actually live in her so it'd be a lot easier for me to just stay at home and plan everything from here so if something goes wrong I can just run down to the convention center or run down to the city offices and say hey what do we got to do to get this fixed I couldn't do that with it in Austin so we moved it here I found the Hearst convention center I looked around it you know the dallas convention center the arlington convention center for hotels and this place is i don't know if any of you guys have ever been to moscone center and gets out there about two years ago it's like a mini moscone so if you took motzko knee-squeezed it down to one floor and like compact it a little bit and made it only sigh you know enough room for maybe 2,000 people that's this place you know the solid glass front windows it's really realized I mean is a really beautiful complex and so I went down there we talked to them that it caught us a little bit of a deal because I told you I gave him the whole we're small-time every buddy that works on the barbecue is volunteer including myself nobody gets paid so we don't have big budgets you know we don't have any investors the only way we pull off the BBQ is with ticket sales and sponsors that's the only way it happens yes so we we talked to them they're helping us out we're having it catered by them this year but the chef was it used to be the Executive Chef for the Texas Rangers so you know he's kind of knows what he's doing I'm sure the Texas Ranger guys love barbecue so yeah he's he's really good we do have ray still cooking though which is which is one of the things that kind of surprised me so we've never really done this in the past or we never done it at all this year we had peered tickets and we tried to kind of sweeten the packages a little bit and make it a little more exciting and some some different stuff for our attendees we didn't want to raise our prices but because our costs are so much higher this year we had to find creative ways to raise additional income we just that's just in order to do it we've got to figure out ways to raise more money so we came up with this idea of having some some different tiers of path of tickets originally it was going to be a Kickstarter but uh it doesn't really work out so well when you want like if you wanted to buy two tickets how do you buy two tickets to Kickstarter yeah so it really kind of broke down as we were we were ramping up we actually have a Kickstarter video that is all done that it will probably post in a couple of weeks or something that funny it's just me Russell and race then and Michael lipson who's our like tech guy sitting in the Hangout just chattin it was funny but I'm gonna have to cut out the bloopers because those were the really funny yeah I've seen some interesting events such as whoa naming names somebody that may or may not be close to the sánge mod team that may or may not have chugged a lot of beer to win a watch uh I saw us on google+ the other day yeah yeah apparently there's a challenge on the table yeah you know I'm not gonna lie um I've been known to partake in an adult beverage from time to time I'm looking forward to that event here if it's there so you hear that Benji uncommon for you yeah so so that's the way it's working out this year is we've got our developer days we've got to developer days saturday from like 8am we're still finalizing the schedule but from like basically eight a.m. to three pm we're gonna have developer sessions but it's not just going to be developer here's here's because we know while we're about probably fifty to sixty percent developers we've got you know thirty-five percent enthusiasts who who don't know anything about development or maybe know a little bit enough to be dangerous or enough to get themselves in trouble but but not not professional developers not people who are developing apps not people who are hacking on roms yeah but you know those type of people we want to cater to everybody we also know we have business people coming people who are who are CEOs and app companies or or maybe you know they work for for a nap and and they want to learn how to market their app better so we've tried to create three main tracks um we're still like I said we're still finalizing this we've still got I think 97 days before the barbecues you know there's still a lot of stuff check my desktop my homescreen widget here yeah yeah so there's still a lot of changes we're working on a nap room work are this app if we can get it done if we can give it this app is going to be amazing it's going to do some really cool stuff some stuff that you haven't ever seen before things like that make the event itself a lot more interactive where maybe you go and we have a scavenger hunt and you have to go from booth to booth in the conventional or in the hall the showroom for and and and check in at these booze and you get rewards and then the first one to finish get something you know we're talking about all sorts of ideas this app is gonna be really exciting i can't wait for us to finish it and be able to pull this off so yeah it sounds extremely exciting i said i ordered my ticket earlier in the week they i saw i assume you guys still have tickets available Rex I saw the final eight hundred year send that are available we have eight hun it's eight or nine hundred general a mission that's the fifty dollar ticket and that's the that gets you in I could chew your shirt and I get you your swag bag that also gets you into the after party on Sunday night which is the that's the actual barbecue that's what that's what started it all and it's grown into the rest of this event so so the the party is sunday night so if I were to attend this I'd be looking at friday saturday sunday and then going home Monday that's that's the best way to do it yet okay alright and friday is really there's nothing really organized it's usually just we have kind of a pool party we don't have the kind of space we did last year because the hotel the hotel last year was amazing and the year before the same place the staybridge suites in austin i should give them a shout out because they treated us so i mean just exceptionally well this year were split between three hotels fortunately they are literally side by side now checking out the map it looks like I mean everything's right there inside the comp exempt do we go like I said we're trying to make this as affordable convenient and easy for everybody i mean we three hotels within walking distance of the of the convention center they're all three sides right next to each other so if you're at one hotel and maybe your friends are at another hotel that's not going to be a problem at all yeah you just walk over in fact when i went and visited the hotels all i did was walk from one to the other that's great and to go set up our discount code so um and our hotels are cheaper this year and flights should be cheaper so you know we did have to double our price basically this year we went from $25 the previous year's to fifty dollars this year and really that'll work that it sounds like the fifty bucks isn't bad the way I see it you're getting your guaranteed all you can drink and all you can eat on Sunday night I don't know many places you can get all you can drink and all you can eat period for fifty bucks so no you know you're also getting a developer conference which if you compared to other developer conferences I don't know of any of them that are under two hundred dollars in the first place so if you've tried really I mean it wasn't easy to increase our price we've been twenty-five dollars since the beta barbecued it was it was a really tough decision but it came down to we just we've got to cover our cars we figured what we'll do is we'll figure out what the cost is per person and that's where about will try and price the tickets so you're basically paying for your free food and drink and that's it the sponsors are paying for everything else so thank you thank you sponsors appreciate that and almost regards to sessions what kind of information are going to be in these sessions and in these talks that people are gonna be giving anybody you're on google+ can be given some talks oh yeah lots of people so one of our we one of our biggest hits is always the cyanogen saina saina german cyanogen I engine mod round table I'll get it out eventually guys it's bear with me the cyanogenmod round table is kind of a Q&A session where the guys there's usually like 10 of the guys sitting up on stage or at the front of the room sitting at a table and just answering questions um they're probably going to give a talk at some point to and more more informative rather than reactionary just QA but they'll definitely be there we've already talked to them and they're definitely going to be there in force they're there one of our our longest-running supporters Adam out learn & jordan keys i think is his last name from XDA i believe they did the unbreakable mod last year I don't remember for sure but they're speaking again this year yeah an hour yeah I actually spoke with in a few times with Google+ seems like a heck of a nice guy yeah we've got Marc Murphy I don't know if you've ever heard of him but he is very well known as a instructor in android and and so getting all these people out there at the end of October the dates are night the night pink through the 21st by the way that's that's exciting we're really excited about having these guys out to speak you know we really want to we really want to provide a good experience for all of our attendees so we've got several different tracks you know you asked me what what what we have for you so so I'm I'm considering you guys enthusiasts I don't think you know maybe there's one developer in the Hangout right now um the thing most of us are in the knows enough to be dangerous category yeah I am definitely not a developer tinker homegrown mod water yeah about right in your own rounds but if you need a side load ahead compiled some sort but that's that's easy everybody we're all in the same boat i think so knowing that we're not going to sit in and listen to the intense session you know yeah I me not I don't need to know about you know I mean I don't I don't deal with it making apps silly and right so we'll have a session like that and we'll have a hat we have a hacker mater track pretty much going where we'll have like the cyanogenmod panel and and and like the maybe the unbreakable mater the XDA guys are gonna send some people and the roots with you guys are gonna send some people and we're gonna have lots of cotton will have t.i talk and in samsung talking but they were also going to have the enthusiast sessions I don't want to get too much into those but they're gonna be they're gonna be fun they're gonna be a lot know what know some of us see it you know the see the hacking and modding sessions the only know I love geeking out though you know what I mean like there's somebody oh yeah so hands down our number one session every year is the CM round table we know that and so what we've done this year is that's going to be since we know that's going to be our biggest one we have we've never had room for keynotes and stuff like that we're doing that this year since we've moved into a conference center so we have this ballroom where we can have you know keynotes and really if we have any really big sessions we can accommodate a thousand people sitting there so that's how we're going to do the cyanogen obsession very nice they're going to be sitting in front of basically their own keynote now they may be towards the end of the event but they'll be yeah there'll be room for everybody to fit into the CM session for sure because we know that's an event that pretty much everybody wants to go to right you know the the verizon session and the the Texas Instruments session and the the HTC and Samsung sessions were all packed flashing the Sphero session man it was completely packed last year and and I know Spiro will be back those guys we know them really well we're good friends with the spear Oh guys the or board bollocks they did on the ball that you can control with your your phone they they'll be out we've been talking about some really cool ideas with them too so we really are trying to provide something for everybody if you are in in the Android ecosystem whatsoever there's something for you at the be good so pretty much if you're watching or listening to this chances are if there's gonna be something for you that Zacks see because you just like to drink we're gonna eat three barb you are cute now we will have vegetarian availability during the lunches on saturday and sunday but we don't cook vegetarian BBQ vegetarian I apologized we'll have potato salad and coleslaw for there you go something for everybody BBQ and potato salad ankle and the BBQ party is always exciting um I don't know if any of you guys have been to I oh but I oh and I oh they always throw a party the IO party is always a blast we usually have a band there we haven't ever had a band we usually do a DJ this year we're talking about something pretty cool that that will actually involve everybody who's there so you will basically well if the weight hurt you at your table FM DJ the event similarly no not really okay I'd take a stab at right that was the idea last year but we ended up with just getting a DJ but this year a little bit nobody's ever done anything like what we're talking about this year a nexus q DJ type of event you might be onto something there I'll tell you what that will be pretty it'll be pretty damn cool that's if that turns out what it'll be yeah we've got to get in touch with some people at Google to see if we can make it work and stuff like that so so the cat may or may not have just got a team out of the bag there but uh yeah you might you might be onto something specific I'd like to be real the way the Nexus Q is right now it wouldn't work dude yeah okay I mean the way the social sharing works anybody could make the next song and then we've got to worry about something somebody put somebody put enough you have some really offensive or something yeah you need to have a way to almost like somebody sitting there approving you're giving a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down you know or voting maybe we could crowdsource it there you go dad knows you know I mean knows what could happen yeah well very cool Aaron I'm I'm excited to go so I've mentioned earlier i'm feeling how about like ticket earlier in the week John do you plan on going to the BBQ have you uh by uh I picked my ticket up on the twelfth i'm planning on i live in georgia so it's not that big of a stretch for me to drive to texas so and i know some people from texas anyway so be cool to kind of hang out there and do some other things too so very good barbecue too yeah how about w scott what are your plans to the BBQ gonna go yeah ah timing-wise i don't know if it works for me but if it does I will therefore be feeling some things need to open up in entrer you are from Texas sir are you going to go to the Android BBQ I you know I plan to but it's a crying shame i just got laid off so yeah that's not going to happen bills come first yeah they're like four hours to the south that's it thunders Jason yeah yeah I'm like actually about 30 miles well the Beaumonts okay i know where ball boys all right well if you guys have any questions for Aaron about the BBQ about previous barbecues or the upcoming Android BBQ feel free to leave a comment will check the comments yeah hit me up on google+ yeah aaron casting or uh you know check out the BBQ website big Android BB q com definitely definitely all right Scott so else can you talk about said we have some software updates for for some pretty popular Android phones right we had the be what sit samsung de la cool stuff over the past a week yeah samsung galaxy s2 for AT&T is getting there ICS update of the skyrocket users they can update through Samsung's kies pc companion software on which i ate but not doing over the air so I don't think anyone's actually ever said that they love it in the same sense no yeah that's someone never see I can't wait to go home ugh my phone into a USB cable and update it cuz it's 1999 you know you know you know for whatever reason you're doing it that way i don't know if it's because they don't trust their network or i think they got the company's up to pay for some OTA updates and i think that this is just Samsung's way you know one don't want to pay for bandwidth gotcha mm oh and then the AT&T galaxy note gets updated to ICS so long with your ICS updates for the notes you'll also find and samsung's new S Pen optimized apps enhanced me multimedia features on s Note S Memo and my story so now that is the part of the ICS premium apps you know yep these are the things that have been delaying ICS you know for since the note was released yeah so yeah they better be pretty darn creepy I'll tell you that right now and then this sprint epic 4g touch uh it's there ICS update and this update is over there so you have no problem installing for dot 0 dot 4 on your epic 4g touch that's coming a little sprint doesn't care about that begins its you know spring flights there over to the air updates you know that unlimited data plan they have faith in their network so again if the ice rink quietly becoming the best carrier to be on um once we get out lazy he out then well i think they announced either today or yesterday that there i'll t they're starting in kansas city oh yeah which are going revision nine keep that in mind as we're verizon's revision aid mmm that's a big difference revision aid doesn't upgrade easily to the revision nine revision nine upgrades very easily to revision 10 which i will be in 2014 okay sprinters don't always starting in a better position and I think they're setting themselves up for the future um but as of right now you know you have to have money remember there any hole yeah bummer that you know in order you gotta talk and talk but you got to walk the lock and you don't have many networks sprint Illinois many LTE network so I'll start I'll start taking sprint's LTE network a little more seriously when the 3g network actually becomes more reliable to begin with a better than t-mobile and when i drive to houston on tmobile i can't even make a phone call half the time that is I cannot give me those data on sprint almost the entire way through well I don't have a great way to elbow around here so I'll just have to take the guys words for it yeah technically technically sprint still kind of Rome's on verizon to for 3g so that could be why I don't lose 3g be good for us I don't care what they're roaming on as long as I've got verizon and Texas has amazing coverage that verizon has pretty amazing coverage everywhere well you know what exit affluent you have a vision coverage i live in the mountains i drive 10 miles in one direction and I lose signals we have no mouth with Max's they're just way on the other side of the state so the AT&T and then sprint galaxy s3's received a very tiny over-the-air updates um and they were saying that these are security updates gosh Springs was from okay sprint was saying it was a security update yeah but it wasn't really a security update more of a let's stop a legal issue before it may or may not happen update I was for their security not yours yeah best thing what happened is the regular search feature they basically replaced it with a number one quoting that basically the search only shows web results and with no local results on being displayed which is kind of a bummer from you can't search your contact you can't search your apps your email how is that even patentable I mean come on I would recommend thought i would recommend not updating oh yeah it cuz remember they're really really is not a security update and apples not going to come beat down your door and find you so i would get it Scott said I wouldn't installed an update keep the search out his chances are it'll be updated it wasn't pulled out for jellybeans jellybeans skirts around that patent you know so you know I don't stall that that's that's our recommendation I would like to present prior art to searching local content no avail to get look at the whole stack out I mean come on that's so ridiculous oh yeah I I don't understand this just an apple Sue's errand for dissent yeah bring it wait though I take that back I apologize Apple Apple sues samsung for forcing people to update their phones via a computer all right you had to connect your phone to the computer that is right if you had to use keys than uh no no yes I write-ins are they doing all of this at this point to just bring more attention to the the insanity that is the patent system they're like look what let's just go bananas with it raising so everybody think we did they know that they're getting away with it so why not go nuts until someone says hey don't do that let's try and patent a triangle oh they let us oh it's so ridiculous oh yeah all right so uh AOSP the android open source project this week was released jar jellybean was released to the android open source project version 4.1 point one and accompanying binaries for a few Nexus devices the Torah which is young risers Galaxy Nexus as well as the Morocco the migoi hpsa plus and the grouper which is the nexus 7 so the binaries out there for those so if you have one of those phones you can pretty much get a complete AOSP build right away since are you starting to appear for many other devices out there you know people were hacking Andrea doing what they do best and we're starting to see all sorts builds you know for various tablet even the kindle fires getting they must be build a few things are still broken on it the acer iconia a500 is good name is Fiji on being billed there's roms for fear and all in place with jelly bean so just just give developers time and you'll start seeing some more and more stable ones in the near future like the Galaxy Nexus is gsm version and cdma version are blowing up with multiple wrong some are more stable than others summer you know doing a nightly builds beta build whatever but they're they're all over the place so it definitely it's a good time to be on a Nexus device so if you're in the if you're in doing a customization and new operating systems yeah and jelly bean for dot one dot 1 is rolling out to the hspa+ Galaxy Nexus and the nexus 7 currently and basically the changelog to the nexus 7 kind of boasts a few abilities such as performance improvement overall system responsiveness which is very nice and the OTA update actually at Google Wallet users are also reporting that the swipe up to Google now is a lot quicker than it was I think the X latitude with it to latitude was broken I noticed and they previous yeah google now lags a lot less on my galaxy nexus as well for 11 yeah i know i didn't think it was slow before but it is i think it's faster now I I didn't notice I didn't hate it before but I it opens up a hair quicker now I can't wait a lot like dragged up its customizable you know we can add other apps too yeah I think I think they'll be pretty you know what I bet so we might see that maybe in a in a future palm build not that I have any inside information on it adds just a guess yes I i would really reminds me of it reminds me of the app wave launcher widow I mean I haven't used that a long time but yeah it reminds me of that almost tell you where you swipe off and you can drag back and forth and kick a nap so thats pretty neat if they you know do allow target to put on there yeah and all devices that are going to get this are the Nexus S and all Galaxy Nexus is slide means gsm and cdma and the motorola xoom will soon follow so if you have any of those devices get excited because you're going to be getting a little bit more of a sweet tooth with chili gate that'd be pretty cool now if you don't have any of those devices you still want some jelly bean action where do you go yeah we know you don't go to your carrier here oh yeah so you go to the android development community right and cm10 one of the most popular if not the most popular custom rom for android uh gave us some teasers this week they they said that well right now we'll see him 10 they're in a very good place with their coats if they had to redo everything for ice cream sandwich so see them nine every did everything they may they you know redo their code base rebuilt stuff from scratch and since jelly bean and ICS are similar in nature it's going to be not too bad for them to manually go through and check and we help he'll go in the back okay so what they're going to do is they're going to go through and manually merge a bunch of update or a bunch of customizations cherry picked some things they want to add to the cm10 mod dead Becca said something is really harder than others like system you eyes like just be a key restyled the lock screen and jelly bean is obviously different now so it's going to be restyled thieves are might be a little bit messy might be harder to for changes to custom launcher a trebuchet might be a little bit harder to update might be messy to merge some things in there but generally it's you know it's going to be easier and it is expected that if your device currently have cm9 where you're on a cm9 night league right now our nature and we saw a nice teaser actually earlier this morning he saw cm10 running on the lg optimus 4x HD just showing hey look look look we're doing stuff it's out there uh it's not that bad and this isn't even a Nexus device it's running so that's good news for the future and I bet we'll start seeing some some nightlies in the near future where I started to see tans you know basically what people are doing is they're looking at cm's review they're going out looking at their garrix and uh you know and pulling down changes and manually merging the changes locally so it's not an official build might have a few cm changes in it but yeah I would say he only might get nightlies here so you know that I can tell you it's running on the Galaxy Nexus how's it run on the Galaxy Nexus Iran and now pretty decent there you go okay any uh any significant changes updates that you might wanna be there's there's nothing special right now they haven't even be any the only thing that's cyanogenmod in it that I noticed was there wallpapers that's all they've added so far so it's basically AOSP build right now yeah now uh the jelly bean launcher a trebuchet launch launcher no it's still jelly it's the jelly bean water rightly being cured jelly bean launch or nothing you can't customize anything doesn't even have the power widgets and the drop-down i'm sure those like those changes will be merged in you know i think right now they're just focusing on combining the their their source with with the AOSP source once that gets combined then they'll start adding in all the extra features and stuff get the core done basically and then build on top of it alright so let's uh so if you have any questions about any jelly bean or open-source AOSP four point one point one stuff feel free to go ahead leave us a comment will revisit comments here at the end of the show let's move on to some device releases the verizon galaxy s3 is finally available in doors you have a color choice of pebble blue or white ceramic you're not going to get a garnet red like AT&T has a special deal i like the read on pretty nice on 16 and 32 gigabyte models they're available for 199 or 249 with a two-year contract and also if you order it online verizon will only ship the phone out by July sixteenth um and also their shipping will right now they're shipping one version and the version as a locked bootloader um blasphemy okay now it does have a locked bootloader but it can be routed and you can put a custom kernel on uh some interesting fellows out there and the interwebs found out that you could flash a custom recovery and a custom a custom kernel at the same time so the you know the system partition not you know is still locked or the beach you know it'd still be better still lock but you can do a few tidbits of customization but not not everything as you can complete me unlock device so what happens to all the same samsung said hey behavor i got some news for you they basically released a different version of the phone its galaxy s3 developer edition basically it comes with an unlocked bootloader but unfortunately it will not be subsidized by verizon so you have to buy it contract greed for six hundred dollars or five hundred ninety nine dollars and then the availability for this device hasn't been really announced yet and we don't know if we're going to be able to only buy it from samsung developer site or directly from horizon so so here's why this is that um mean let's say I'm an average guy I like to read maybe up from time to time maybe I don't have six hundred dollars to buy a phone that can be routed and have a custom rom put on it but a developer he laid up maybe let's say Trey you know he's an Android geek he wants to put his own custom rom wanna get rid of TouchWiz and he wants to run a custom wrong so he's going to show up six hundred bucks so for me to run a custom rom like I really spent 600 bucks is it worth an extra four hundred dollars for me to run a custom rom chances are no so but I don't think too many people are going to buy this because besides the price difference to just run a custom rom it's going to create two different development communities you're going to have people making making wrongs and doing customizations for for the locked bootloader which will be half-assed customizations and then you have then you have full-blown roms to develop edition so you it's going to split its going to flip the development key you know for that phone and it's still don't know oh yeah it's got to be that severe because like comes like we were talking about before the show went off my life honestly if you want to keep your unlimited plan you're going to be buying like full retail anyway and so I think if you were going to have like a phone that was not subsidized to the developer community this was probably the time to do it i think it was a smart move on samsung spark in my situation of the new plans factor out to be much more expensive than if I were to retain my planning by the retail personally yeah I think that you know some people are going to do that but you know not everybody has that ability it's conditional I mean it's not a good long-term thing it's just kind of like if you were in a situation of contemplating buying retail they just made your decision very easy for you yeah i agree i still think it's a little ridiculous that just run across tomorrow let's spend four hundred dollars yeah well i don't know i don't know what it's like with the other carriers but like on tmobile you if you don't buy a car you're not on contract your your savings are pretty significant per month and verizon doesn't do that they don't they'll there are different plans for knock on tree it's one it's one plan yeah so i wasn't it you might as well get subsidized phones at that point then yeah it's kind of like how do you justify buying a phone that's locked down to one care here at the same price that you could get a gsm phone that's equivalent that you could take anywhere and you anywhere in the world yeah exactly travel to Europe you're covered when I would community lies don't play whether they have to do something in the future no I really think that if it may keep going down this line and in the future they're going to have to change something I think eventually LTE will be on all the things and especially overseas um I think the development is there but I think that it'll be a while before we get to that for a very very long is everywhere but then there's multiple frequencies in rosacea and then you're a good problem then you have to have a you know you have to have a cpu a chip that's afforded like frequencies and qualcomm building their chips to support like you are you're right you're right they are there they are doing that but they're like quad-band now you have to have a manufacturer or carrier that's going to want to do that than some other device news on the Garnett read the galaxy s3 so the red version is available exclusively from AT&T um it will be available for pre-order start starting July fifteenth and then you can push it in stores on july twenty ninth um the galaxy s three models you know since all of them except for the verizon version are locked for unlawfully they they all received signed mod night leaves as well so cm9 is available for every other very in the world except for verizon so if you have a galaxy s3 and you're looking to get rid of a little bit TouchWiz and a little stock he can do that kind of power samsung they were like we're not changing our phone this time we'll just give you special colors another link announced the white HTC evo 4g LTE 16gb but is available for two dollars with a two-year contract the white one looks cool it's like a white and silver as opposed to the other color scheme so I'm not sure with my favorite android phone names is it LG optimus 4x HD or is it HTC evo 4g ltd incoming i'm still a fan of the samsung epic touch 4g from sprint a hypernet work with android phones we completely pushed our columns on I mean Nexus you know can we start calling something different like I like Google's flood let's name them after sushi maguro like razr maxx with 2 x's it's like back when they had the big extreme marketing kick and uh you had extreme corn nuts you could buy and like really well then you have the razr maxx HD and then watch Grey's maxx HD two in the least they're not doing 3d anymore yeah for the Galaxy Nexus global LTE 4G droid intern yeah it's got the droid to who or something hey Zulu so I so let's talk about some upcoming devices the Galaxy Note 2 is to be unveiled at Samsung unpacked the event is on August 30th so not for a while but according to rumors they'll have a 5.5 inch screen touchscreen obviously it'll be point 2 inches bigger than its predecessor but it will have a smaller bezel which I'm excited about the smaller bezel fit through the bezels please many backers and the device will also have a rumored to have a quad-core processor made by samsung and also have s-pen support 3g and 4g LTE connectivity and i don't know if it's going to have jelly bean or not but hopefully it does that would that would be nice or it could do you know what the last note did is shipped with the previous version I'll be enjoyed and wait nine months to get the most current version umm so so moving on let's uh let's talk about nexus 7 since that is all the rage as of today because people are starting to receive shipments unlike me you didn't get a shipping notification who bought 13 hours before you could technically buy it by a unpublished link but anyways besides that yeah so yeah you can you uh if you borrow on the first day on jun 27th chances are you're starting to get shipping email on notifications there's no gettin translations have you checked your credit card did you get charged um they pre off my credit card three times over the past week today they pre off again so may I just think it I didn't get the shipping email but don't have a on email either if it makes you feel better I mean I awarded like 1145 the eastern time like it in the net you know they then they took that link down because I saw people founded and we're starting to starting to order I've ignored an l5 I ordered mind it like 518 p.m. yeah so hopefully nobody know tomorrow I get shipping though the patient I'd like to get it monday you know you probably never get there probably not going to central there's a problem you know when you go kitty won't go sunday and pick it up in the store yeah exactly if I don't get one I can go to a store and get one because people to pre-order getting screwed basically you pre-ordered so you know you could get yours today that they're released nope just go Sam's Club or bestbuy or whatever go ahead and pick one up right now I mean a lot of people are upset about that um I i suppressed i expressed an opinion about that as well Oh lamb blast violating for you guys just got blasted on google+ about being so whiny and i was just like no all I'm saying is why would I got an email saying hey we know we're delayed you know we'll get it to you soon as I can't just anything any form of communication would make me really happy whoa did you know what this reminds me of it almost reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where he goes with Jerry goes to rent a car you know he does a car reservations and he's sitting there at the airport he's like all we gave away your reservation has like let's pretty much the most important thing in the reservation you know how to take the reservation beyond how to hold the reservation you know that reminds me of that you know even how to take the pre-order but you don't pull the you know where's our to fill the pre-order yeah exactly oh so I i I'm hopeful you know I'm gonna be happy on me tickled pink when I get it but I would like some type of notification the mean you I mean you paid 14 extra bucks to get a pre-order yeah exactly exactly so well I'm not gonna watch your store picked it up so no where's my where's my info at sams club she had it in her hand but they wouldn't sell it to her oh really yeah and then some more nexus 7 related news it kind of came out of the woodwork somebody was doing some experimenting with magnets and figured out that the Nexus 7 has a magnet sensor and was actually released it at CES I'm pretty sure that wasn't really that big a deal but apparently it was a really big deal why did I mention it Lola so maybe so what the Iridium 037 TT at CES was told there had one everybody forgot about it for eight months exact whatever was at six months and then a google i/o they didn't mention it somebody's like huh oh the MIMO was supposed to do this let's hold a magnet over this to having so I already I wonder why they didn't mention it at Google i/o because that could presumably be another feature with a um you know like a smart cover type thing well I think the case that they're gonna sell it has a magnet in it well what okay so it doesn't say specifically known to be incorrect about things at the times of my life I don't understand why the magnet is on the left hand side when I open stuff I open it from the right to the left it doesn't really matter though because when the case closes or opens your magnet is still gonna come flush with your screen okay there you go see I I thought it was silly they proved me wrong okay that's but when you think about it I mean it does it closes flush so it'll shut off and then when you open it it's gonna recognize magnets no no yeah yeah I guess yeah you're right it's just a versus having to be right on top of it or not yeah yeah I just I don't think it really mattered one yep makes sense makes sense yeah I never think I just I see something and then I just do off Lou tangent but how r all right align I agree it makes more sense to have it on the right side but in the end it really doesn't matter yeah yeah yeah it's getting full away and then well okay actually think about this this way that way you don't just bump the cover a little bit or pull the cover up a little bit naff the screen Center turning on and off on and off on and off which would be battery power you want to know probably really was Apple patented it having it on now so I decided by fishing a feature like that not a side thing haploid patented magnet or the designer was a lefty maybe maybe the guy that designed it was a lefty no a question was brought up by eric hoffman wondering if they are going to sell the nexus q in stores too I have no idea and I don't see why they would because of the price uh if it was a hundred dollars I would say yeah they'd be mad not to put it in stores but I think at the current price I think maybe better not put it in stores obviously better i'm watchin y'all run are they actually going to be able to sell the nexus i I don't know what's happening to happen with the Nexus Q it's a it's a neat thing but it isn't neat enough to be worth three hundred dollars no my fight for 99 bucks maybe you think it's more along the lines of being for developers because I don't know that they know exactly what they want to do with a home media solution but after they see the thing get hacked around and see you know maybe we want to play games on it maybe we want to stream music on it the development will kind of give them an idea of what the people actually want in their homes because like the video game consoles not as popular as a we're a couple years ago says what do you focus on what's so special about the nexus you that a docked tablet could not also do well if docs tablet is a tablet that you can't use no I mean you could dr. like for example the asus Trump okay you have any amplifier built into your tablet tray no you don't well I mean why connected to your network it's a little bit less of a hassle all I guess it's basically a middleman in order to get it to your devices yeah you're bigger devices meaning your TV and your speakers the future is not a world of multiple devices the futures a world of less devices doing more things now I think the raht real traitor I would argue that it's more devices that are in intermeshed more nicely I would argue that I'm better than everyone in here and your argument is invalid yeah I don't even have to go Trey back why don't we invite you to these things I forget because everyone knows that I'm joking not really oh so now I guess the question is what the sensor is the the covers that google is selling are they going to have it you know wasn't mentioned I assume it would you know the cover doesn't detail that in the description or anything it doesn't call smart cover or anything like that so I assume it is going to have that if not a little of the six of them that asus is planning on selling are they going to have the smart cover is a wide outs here better lose anything so I guess only time will tell don't I got your nut and I'm in Devon with the cover today tomorrow let me know I hit me up ba on google+ and let me know the smart cover works they're not even selling the smart cover yet though I would love to buy one but all I get a smart cover it would be a snow mine cover the cake okay the cover we're calling it something you might not even be close this case is not yet available for the next little role of good names magneto cover there you go well like that no can't do that DC Comics do pal poppy Marvel though well how about I covered I'm not I'm not a good enough you do I cover I'm not make it yeah how about I cover I heard that cover I think hyper cover extreme ooh poor nigga Leticia hi ya ever extreme it's lat 4G LTE on the on the bottom of that cover max with 2 x's with with documentation proving that enhances your Wi-Fi signal line you know a magnitude of at least three or four times I mean there's got to be another push behind it but because of the magnets yeah the magnets it's the magnet about a magnitude that's a bit of an issue because like I said Apple whole patented magnets so you have to like come up with something different there what happens with apple patents oxygen are we all still going to be allowed to breathe we just pay a small fee I mean I'm thing that covers friend right there so I wonder if dirty right now yeah I think it'll be okay because actually we breathe more nitrogen than we do oxygen so it's good boy so the license will be a little bit cheaper that way okay so yeah be like a subscription service right oh good point was brought up by niklas there's no need for smart covers or cases on a 7-inch tablet it fits in all jacket pockets the magnet is for a keyboard dock well I mean I don't walk around with a jacket 24-7 no no but he makes a good fight then I keep ladies in my sock other things other than covers oh absolutely well I mean if you have a like a netbook or something you're gonna have a case for that right you want to carry it in the case when you go to like your coffee shop whatever same thing your tablet in my opinion it basically by ployed turns on the if I put the tablet in my coat jacket and have a little hole for the magnet and then put like a magnet on like a can of coke or something you just put the candy coat right there it's yes you all have done that because yes I kept okay I'm going to keep a case around for my zoom but it's mostly the was that Motorola business portfolio case that you can just stack it up and actually prop it up if you want to watch a video that to me is convenient to have but you know you don't want to have to hold a tablet in your lap the whole time if you're watching a movie or something yeah that's the same one I have but you know I think like a case for a tablet is first and foremost a screen protector because I don't want to put that plastic wrap on the front of my screen I want to put it in a case you know on a very good yeah a tablet screen protectors look I mean they're hideous to put on I won't put one on my phone I'm just not a retard I make sure that I don't scratch my screen you know I don't drop my phone so all right guys well says there's not any other questions here would like 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