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Android Authority On Air - Episode 25 - Google Play Store Gift Cards and CM10

2012-08-17
welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm dare cross and I'm Scott Anderson in this week unfortunately we are joined by we're joined by Dan Charlton are returning special guest that is in charge of developing many many roms roms well or Kirk kernels for team it thanks I think uh yeah well so so Scott what do we got on the agenda this evening well we got a lot of app updates on maps chameleon and a lot more some new eps and a lot of updates we also have some carrier news from verizon and basically basically making all the things LTE we're also gonna be talking about some device updates we have some new phones tablets in some notes plural we're going to go into some root and ramen uh s she has three got some news about that and also some cm10 90s and then we got some this week towards the end of the week we got a lot of Google Play Store updates and some pretty exciting stuff rolling around that and then to wrap up we're gonna be talking about patent wars and motorola's new filing also Samsung and Apple as it as they go into their final words on Tuesday all right so let's talk about some app updates everyone's favorite Kickstarter launcher we've actually had exclusive interview with them a few weeks ago chameleon had a major update this week a lot of people wanted the ability to add custom wallpapers the developers heard about it and now we have that ability with chameleon so you can going to install your own custom wallpapers you no longer need an internet connection as well when first launching chameleon and what it did is it basically made sure that you were authorized to actually have chameleon so that they remove that requirement and Internet action is no longer needed and more importantly users no longer need to enter their people play password for verification when you first install the app so that that's very nice um they fixed a couple issues such as app tray icons were being duplicated when getting the app information they improved home screen na manager interface they improved widgets and wallpaper icons and they implemented some widget API is in preparation for their own upcoming widget edition because we know that it's lacking some widgets right now there's only a few available and also those widget api's will be able to be used by third-party developers in the near future and as is Dan Terrapin says needs more widgets now and it does it has a lot of potential um oh it definitely has potential I think it's a very neat launcher it I think the intense the ability to yeah I have based on your location your we know the time of day and so forth to have that be your starting your default launcher or you default home screen that's the coolest thing about it in my opinion um the widgets will make it golden it's just not there yet but you know they're making progress they're releasing updates and that's great now I'm happy to see them continuing you know to to develop it and continue to add what we need what we want and just a note on that and how dedicated they are to this launcher when we did our interview with them they stayed on and we talked to them for about two and a half hours about very specific things and how they want to go forward we put in some of our suggestions and they were jacked up about it so they seem they really excited very eager they seem really excited and very eager to bring the best product possible to people I was ever with that said a lot of our viewers are in Turing and rom and running custom roms right now their main focus is to make sure it works on official releases only yeah and that was actually part of the recent change log as well so Oh will will keep you updated anything changes in the future but we did exclusively talk to them about wanting to have a root support and and wrong see a custom rom support so hopefully if those issues are resolved in the future as you know does jelly bean ROM future and so forth we'll we'll keep talking with them and hopefully those issues get resolved so let's talk about another big-ass Pinterest Pinterest for Android just got released it was very highly anticipated it's a fast growing social network for sharing pinning things that interest you yet imagens male um that's cool if you use it if you use Pinterest it's too it's a great social app really in terms of just the Apple own the picture staff is very nice for its first release I mean it has a lot of functionality it's very smooth um it has nice you know editing for Ted at your own profile to go ahead pin items to add a pins and to search popular posts as well as you know the categories and so forth it's a very nicely designed app it's very clean and you know it is pretty high I don't use Pinterest but I like the app it's very neat up I don't know how much I don't think it's going to make me start using Pinterest but for those of you that do use Pinterest I I think that you know get the app definitely it's as much medium is it's nice so so Dan do you use Pinterest of all know I really don't have any idea what it is or what it does oh you've got you use Pinterest um I initially signed up for it and I thought it was a very very interesting concept um but I i find myself just kind of centering myself around google+ and i think that's enough or yeah it's very hard to manage multiple social network special time job to do that yeah but i do like the fact that I can you know categorize all of my favorite things into different categories if google+ had that I just really categorize all the things categorizing all the things that should be the most circling the things yeah you know what I keep hearing it that Pinterest is for women women it's a has a very large presence on on pinterest a ghost single men head over to pinterest um good to know yes a good but uh I'm curious knowing any of our women viewers think of Pinterest since it's a has a high high amount of women on that network let us know what you think I'm curious if you're using the app so moving on to more apps Google Maps was updated this week and its biggest thing in my opinion was the new icon I'm just kidding um it did have a new icon and the new icon has the g on a map it's neat looking but the biggest thing is that has over 1,000,000 public transit stops so hey it's focusing on public transportation at the the new transportation layer adds the ability to browse by mode of transportation and so forth so it's very cool you can use it to get around die if I lived in an area that had more public transportation I would use it more that's very cold oh you can also you mean you can always do some limited sort of mode of transportation right like you could select public transit or car or walking but now you can drill down a little further especially for for metropolitan areas that have multiple forms of public transit and you can get just bus or just subway metro rail whatever you have locally yeah I think you can get a lot more specific just within public transit yeah since I got my new job a month ago I took the bus just because it's cheaper and I've been using it and this update is frickin awesome you get to see all the bus routes where they go x 2 does it yeah using the times what times they arrive it is very very uh huh and I just want to say hats off to Google because it's really really nice yeah i mean i don't use public transit I don't really live in an area that has it to get from where I am where I need to go but yeah like in in places where I did that would have been extremely helpful to have that on hand and if you ever need to in the future arm it's very very simple to learn just with the Google Maps app like literally it's so easy so um another couple features the borders of cities postal codes and more now highlighted in surveys and you can browse by day to day display of where you've been in your location history so just a few location history my place is so forth updates which is nice so when you want to know when you want to stalk yourself yes it's great I I checked it out kukula you know I was able to see you I recently was on vacation so I would have think I would be kind of neat if that feature was available then another thing that was really cool is the fact that it actually saves your home and work address so when you go to my places on the top and this second so the person the second slots are home and then work which is awesome because those are the ones that you use the most yep now home and work our new they've always been there um but having them show up is a place though and your rent rather than a star well under location history you've always been able to set your home yeah no no I understand that you be able to set it but in my places instead of just a star on the address it would be home and work which is really nice let's talk about Instagram you know I loved Instagram for that first month it was out I was honestly I became a professional photographer for about a month I'm not gonna lie it's a good mean for you then instagram made me a professional photographer for a month um so the latest version of instagram version 3.0 came out this week it introduced photo/matt which is cool so you can see where you're taking photos where photos are at it's a nice way of browsing photos on a mat um they having of the slightly new design for user profiles not a parts of the instagram app user profiles looks nice and it's all so now you have the ability to write longer captions on photos when you're when you're sharing them you're the small character limit isn't there so the biggest thing on this is longer captions and photo/matt photo maps your kind of cool wife I actually reinstalled the app and played around the photo maps are very nice if you're an Instagram user / professional photographer you know because Instagram makes you the professional photographer least that's what hipsters think so check it out it's very cool the maps feature is your name iphone users I'm so you know what iphone users don't like the fact that US Android uses her on Instagram remember that bit I want to feel like to yet I believe that we're talking about that on Twitter yeah I think so it was i was at hashtag they were using oh I forget wasn't it something like a few Android he was so nasty all I know is really deeply basically all they said was all the poor people were here now you know like soleta yeah buddy android users report android phones cost add we're gonna go off on a rant exact same about that if you didn't rustins but that's another show topic i took on contract that cost us in fact apps here so instead of new apps an app actually died this week flash that's a combination you can no longer install flash off from the place from the Play Store yeah so if you have it on your device you're cool it's going to stay there it's not gonna disappear overnight but if you get a new device you for map of a blah you can't install from the Play Store now you can still install it you know side loaded you can still download the apk from an alternate location and manually install and that's fine it's gonna work great but remember chrome is the new big boy on the next seven in chrome no matter what you're going to do Chrome will not support um flash that's just how this adobe isn't going to support it because adobe said that six months of hano six months plus the other they're not doing that actually i think they said back in december actually they said they're not going to support anything else you on what stock ICS came with so good yeah so you can go and install it you can find in various places on the web and even Paul Brian actually from Monaco publish a nap on the Play Store I don't member the exact name something like flash installer yadda yadda you download that install the app what it does is out there installs the flash app for you so if you need if you use the old browser you need to use flash there you go you can you can still do it there's a way or two around it for the time being but remember flash is one of those applications that every month has new vulnerability and it's not going to be patched anymore so you know be where you've got your own risk so long google+ good updated didn't Scott yeah google post got updated um kind of a big update for hangouts on air which is kind of nice mobile devices can participate and watch hangouts on air which is awesome um I used okay they can water Balz know to watch you can join now yep Washington participate that's what I meant by participating um and then also uh teens are now able to join hang outs from their mobile devices you know what and if I was a teenager Woodrow Claire not but that that would be cool you know I mean I many teens are something that can strive to build protecting and so forth and to give them the ability to call one another up and do a big teeny bopper chat that's cool if I was a teenager if I had an LTE connection in my school and all my friends at LT might line your school's probably good Wi-Fi now uh yeah okay well a it's been a while since I've been schools schools nowadays have Wi-Fi it's crossing years ago what were you were senior two years ago you didn't have Wi-Fi I was fourteen yesterday I just turned fifteen so no I I mean middle school didn't have it his high school will I hang out during class would be friggin awesome just chillaxin you know if you're taking attack pretty sure teachers would be rather upset with that idea but you know whatever yeah that's cool yawns don't hang out in class we think about it get some sort of more practical you can do a hangout that's what a practical uses let's say you're sick you get to take notes from your teacher that's actually a practical use for teachers would brought just apply serene absolutely if a teenager's wanted in colleges be broadcast their classes on the YouTube yeah I want you teenagers that are watching and listening to this I want you to go up to your teacher and tell them that you now have the ability to lay in bed at home and remotely do go to close their class all that need to do is create for Scott Anderson Philippe like I do go ahead and do it he thinks it's gonna work I don't good I have no ok so talking about LTE um let's move on superior news verizon released 30 for new markets and um it was a huge roll out um 34 markets and seventy-five percent of the population yeah it is ridiculous on health they say that they are ahead of schedule so I'm excited to see where they're going to be at the end of the year I think that they are going to surpass their goal just to kind of say hey we're moving a lot faster than you and I think it'll be really cool and I'm happy with the progress and 174 markets I believe are 400 they want to have by the end of this year yeah I uh Derek a big coyote and where you are not you know what's got pretty last a list yeah and I have the 400-ton listen as I Brockovich depart 832 for sale out of the four hundred listed markets huntingdon PA is number 498 thank you know be really interesting if they did a list of all the networks or the the markets that they're currently working on or in development any kind of cool it'd be a good teaser yeah I think it'd be cool you know what up to i'll tell you what I've it it would be nice to to have it here I i'm at work you know 10 hours of nine hours a day i have it at work I Wi-Fi work too so don't really matter so you know and in lemon hill Momo Wi-Fi when I go out and about it be nice to have 4g but I can wait a little bit longer I'm okay right now but I definitely don't want to be last on the list you so if you're listening to verizon honeyed in Pennsylvania read some need some LTE lovin I'm sorry but you can you stop calling it for cheap it just annoys me is LTE LT yeah my area is blanketed in the hspa+ yeah great the other plus I don't get it is inside my office I don't get any reception whatsoever inside by my area as verizon up the ying-yang it's all over oh there's verizon everywhere too but the t-mobile is very good here yeah so also it won't look so we've got your phone as well let's move on to uh well Daniel actually won't talk about this one the direct yet yeah a little more carrier news up dan was talking about it earlier something about direct TV and wireless yeah they're planning to they've been sitting on sort of a large chunk of spectrum for a while they are planning to use it to roll out it some kind of a satellite network nationwide miners rights BP is going to roll out nationwide wireless yep like mobile broadband via satellite interesting i wonder if a lot of cable providers will try to get into this cellular network space well a bunch of cable providers just sold out a bunch of spectrum to verizon so they're kind of getting out of the mobile providing space because they bought up a huge chunk of spectrum very publicly we're very big about that we're going to offer the hole-in-one services and then didn't do anything with it and I wonder or not but I wonder if wired services just like with ethernet and all that stuff is going bye-bye I wonder if cable might do the same thing we don't I don't know but I'm just saying they're all they're putting all our cookies in one jar and I think it's realistic to assume that cable will get replaced with TV of via IP wait like you just get an internet connection and now they also pay for a TV subscription of some kind and then you have a data cap that allows you to watch 50 hours a week and that's it Yeah right right like yes there are other problems with that but it's gonna being like a just ip-based rightly just like phones are dying to ip-based phones you know so I don't know that hard line is going to disappear I mean verizon is pushing hard their LTE as the replacement to verizon's dsl you know but realistically that's just not practical LTE disappears once a month or more from verizon like well lit area has LT on any issues and then they have like 10 of them in a week but verizon's LTE is still typically slower than a hard line broadband connection what are you talking about I a week ago when I drove through New York City i was getting 20 when i get my 23 down or something like that that's what i get on hardline connection i paid a lot less per month for online connection for more data than you do for the wireless if you like to drive back here but that because so directs you to want it directv's coming out with a wireless broadband type thing it's in the works let's move on the next good explanation lovely but let's put haunted device updates so we got some milk to rumors of basically lots of fake pictures um pictures but be the aluminum picture no that one's fake but here's this one's real oh no that one's me to know what was neat about the note to rumors was a guy on twitter posted his own personally designed Makka yeah and then everybody in the brother said oh my God look at the moon right every major new news the site you know what and I would have done it too so I'm not better than any of you I would go into I felt I would have fallen for it and I would have posted them and said the exact same thing oh my God look at these leaks but this would come on I think they're gonna say look at these renders somebody potential images somebody followed the trail and realized it was just a guy posting his own personal mock-ups right that's why you follow the trail before you open your mouth when you're good it's all about link bait and clicked in no it's about holistic anything about journalistic resources before I go blabbing about stuff that's not necessarily true you're not a tabloid oh but tabloids nacelles yeah really just use National Enquirer do we just use the tabloid word on enter 30 why alright so moving on no no and then um so the note 10.1 released and kind of lackluster kind of hit or miss reviews I mean it's what do you guys think it's yeah dan go sorry what was this happen no then this is one of those topics where you're going to be strongly opinionated I know it go TenPoint the note 10.1 oh it can't lukewarm reviews I i I'm not particularly impressed ronik you make an alternate dance okay so I don't find it impressive I find it founders blue form as the reviews of bed I don't want one but that doesn't mean that other people want I think it has a specific market I do the eyes I think that people that want to use you want to style us you want a stylist you want the s-pen maybe you're an artist maybe you're a note taker maybe you use it for one of those functions or something else that I can't think I'll thought my head then yes it might be for you but I I don't think it's a tab that everybody their brother wants its has a specific market and those of you that have the galaxy note the phone and absolutely love it those type of people will be interested in that happen not necessarily because I think a decent amount of note people just bought it because of the screen real estate as opposed to the 10.1 having the same amount of real estate so I think it's more about the S Pen oh yeah well then that's why I Samsung's putting out the 10.1 to in like another month that's pretty much identical minus the S Pen they are just shoving our devices right now it's got in its easy to get market share when you're selling a good bajillion devices that's not a number exactly well you know what I have lost count of how many devices Samsung is released in the last 16 months yeah but dan when you're the number one phone tablet no no no is the chicken in the egg scenario we're doing it because their number one I'm suggesting that they're spewing out enough devices that they're just falling around enough to make them number one you don't know I don't think they're doing that I think when your vices as you want as many different form factors and styles and try to find which one works when you're top dog yeah you have tons of money to blow that's a glutton figure out what works yeah that's exactly what they're doing the cash they weren't number one they got number one by littering the market with a gajillion devices you got to spend money to make money and they're trying to figure out what they are a large electronics company yeah oh yeah what PBGC is pretty much just a smartphone maker right yes as long as not they have a lot of outside outsides manuel de peligro edit to find something that'll stick HTC can't do that well say I'll tell you what Samsung has to be doing something right no matter for what the reason they're doing it if it's to blanket all the things and hopefully one thing works or if it's to litter the market and get market share that way either way they're doing something right because they keep producing record sales yeah definitely I let's move on to the tab 7 point zero plus don't you just look okay to have several fighter those are there now can we talk about this last week android device named Martha Graham there they're very grand I have nothing to say about it Galaxy Tab 7.0 number 4 I think they're a stray away from the galaxy tab but in 18 months no to you so good so the tab 7 point of + Madrid for got ICS so if you have our ICS is rolling out in phases from the droid 4 but the tab 7 point of plus got its ICS update thank God the only been out for ten eleven months oh but wait boy the galaxy tab 7.0 L 2 LTE Azure and new Galaxy Tab 7.2 in this one's shiny but it's a 7-inch it comes with three hundred and fifty dollars at 350 contract won't know but there's a specific market for that people that want to have mobile data wherever they get it's called I pay two hundred dollars and then pay 50 for a mobile LTE Wi-Fi from verizon mold no I wouldn't get my I just used my phone because we're that semi-legal to you guys later no this isn't this is a I'm blowing an extra hundred and fifty dollars on something that could cost me 25 to 50 because I feel like blowing next one hundred and fifty dollars because it has LTE yeah it has more geez that is true okay and speaking of black things the samsung galaxy s3 is coming out in black didn't that wasn't there a UK carrier that had a like a promo for a black one that was 64 gigabytes yeah exactly 64 gig on your phone the so those of you that don't think you have enough storage on your mobile device Samsung has your back that's 64 with expansion slot that will fit in other 64 yes so it's great you need 128 gig in your in your pocket Samsung has your back I think that's what a run actually see 128 there just aren't chips that do 128 if you want to run a business server okay I mean I'm here for your phone it and I'll possum at samsung galaxy s3 black you are better marketing thing run your entire business 128 gig we have 4g LTE dual core or quad core two gigs of ram basically you can have a server in your pocket it's a business in your time and it doesn't have the LTE you know what all you gotta do is install andrew uh you know an apache web server on there what's that yeah you're good to go right I don't know if there is an Apache for Android interesting yeah hey okay so we've got another device that pass through the FCC are the issues TF 500t so a lot of it is kind of unknown um but what do you guys think it is it's probably a tablet it clearly passed on a sec yeah it's a tablet but what's interesting is you know people are calling it the transformer prime 21 thought that's what the transformer infinity was the transformer prime to school it was our sauce they've just been spitting out tablets this year we want to go tablets though when you can without like I don't I don't you're doing well like asus is throwout talents and see what people buy you have the market you have money for it I just like that they're spewing out very high quality product no they're all great I'm not knocking the quality of their products i'm just saying they put out the transformer and then a year later they put out the transformer prime and then three months later they put out the transformer 300 tea and then three months later they put that transformer 700t and then three months later you've got the 500 t like what the s hey god did do it well I'm God when I can I rub dirt do you see John's comments on our post john curley oh no oh is that a server in your pocket if he's happy to see me stunning oh man that's great I'm renaming the show that those great we publish this later on YouTube institue in the itunes and everything dad is going to be our show topic alright Darren Romick all right so rude and Rana night so we have a lot of views this week those of you that have a samsung galaxy s3 and one of the most popular phones out there now you'll be happy to know that there's a rumor saying in about two weeks you're going to get jelly bean in to back up that rumor a leaked rom for the samsung galaxy s3 was found on the interwebs it's a preview version a test build it's not a hundred percent working some things are kind of iffy but it is a leaked realm of jelly bean for your Galaxy s3 so so right now um the ICS are sorry v.v launcher is not the jelly bean launcher um icons and widgets don't move around whenever you're putting a new widget a new icon do they don't they don't move out of the way as they do in jelly bean so that functionality isn't built into the TouchWiz launcher yet uncle your tummy it still looks like gingerbread yeah it looks like gingerbread um the ICS search widget is not a new updated jellybean looking one but Google now does work so you know Google now those work from it uh what's kind of interesting is remember when s being came out s beam was very cool because it was a front end for uh for Wi-Fi direct and then an Android 4.1 jelly bean basically came out with a similar function where now Android Beam sets of a Bluetooth connection to share images and videos and so forth and those two are fighting right now basically TouchWiz is trying to use some software it's trying to do s beam to regular devices so they're fighting a little bit right now but this is a test build so that's going to be resolved in the very near future I would assume so we have one with hope so that's cool now now speaking about the galaxy s3 verizon users remember you guys have been screwed for a while that want to read wrong your galaxy s3 when you see you guys your verizon user but i'll have a galaxy s3 yeah very true continue so so anyways before I was really interrupted um the the galaxy s3 bootloader it is locked you know and there's all sorts of crazy methods out there to get around that but it doesn't know fully allow you to customize the button the device until this week somebody elite a in secure boot loader for the galaxy s3 on the web and it just so happens to work wonderfully on the verizon galaxy s3 so whoever leaked that thank you very much the community loves you and developers did their thing they turn it into a flashable package with Odin and that was okay for the first day but because the Android developers are are awesome they decided to turn it into an app and put it on the Play Store so right now if you're a Verizon Galaxy s3 owner and you're rooted all you gotta do is search the Play Store for easy unlock and download the app install it and then tap screen once and it unlocks your bootloader for you it's amazing it's a one click unlock now at this time it will not relock the device they are looking into that functionality there's no word if that is going to work in the future but they are looking into it so 11 click one tap unlock for the galaxy s3 that's great news and following the unlock a little bit earlier this evening samsara motorola had some interesting unlock news the motorola device unlocked page is now live on the west it's similar to HTC devs this website where you go there you select your device and so forth and you figure out how to unlock it via the website right now the new sprint photon q 4g LTE is listed as a supported device and then previous supported devices such as yeah the zoom the zoom Wi-Fi and if we're in their verizon razor developer edition are listed of course because they're already previously unlocked but the website is live so the exactly said but it that's a good sign things thing a good this your progress its progress oh we have a positive influence yeah you know this is this is Google's Motorola this is good news this is very good news following the good android news of the week cm10 sometime tonight maybe even right now is going to start going to start night least on the first batch of devices to get nightlies for cm10 jellybean will be all variants of the US samsung galaxy s3 sony on Verizon Sprint t-mobile so for that up all home as well as the international version of the galaxy nexus variants so the sprint version the verizon version the gsm version the nexus 7 as well as all variants of the nexus s transformer the transformer prime the SGS one and it's variants that you have the vibrant the captivate international in the i9000 me they're all getting cm10 the sgs2 samsung galaxy s2 the i 9100 g is getting a cm10 nightly build tonight as well as the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 and 10.1 so the which is the p3 2 p-5 so if you own a those devices you waiting for a nightly build of cm10 cyanogenmod has you covered in some time this evening they're going to be available progress is great i'm sure they're going to start adding on more devices for night in the near future you can go to get cm to check them out whenever available on download and started start your flashing pleasure um as a quick note here the u.s. verizon galaxy s3 will need to have its bootloader unlocked as we just talked about for the cm10 bill to make sure you do it obviously with your own discretion but you need to have your bootloader unlock 22 installed cm10 on that that's about it for Rueter on this week we had I mean cm10 is great news and unlocking boot loaders on your lock devices is great news so we had some uh android / google updates this week yeah actually a lot arm the google play store got an update to version 3.5 points118 and basically what was in it or no three-point 8.15 my no that's not right it is it is yeah oh I switched on my 8th my 15 sorry about that um celexa clutch base but basically what what this new update brings is get cards and that's also that doesn't actually bring the gift cards or is it I thought that was just in the code right like it's it's your support is coming and that's shown in this but it doesn't actually like they don't actually exist yet yeah but basically everything was kind of under the blanket in the code added for future use um so gift cards um with redeem and wish lists so wish list is pretty interesting I'm excited for that gift cards are great because you can get that Leland card to something right now there's ten dollar and $25 gift cards in that's pretty cool if you want to check it out or you want to redeem something Play Store calm / right also google enabled the smart app update that they were talking about at google io 2012 basically what this does is it takes the app and imagine additional but the changes yeah yep does it really sucks it's it's it's basically overriding everything that gets changed and adding everything that's new and deleting anything deleted you know ultimately what this does is the app updates the data that you need to use is significantly less now for example the Instagram update that was with the location photo sharing the app is normally about 13 megabytes and normally if you were to update that app you'd have to redownload 13 megabytes because that's how big the APK is you'd have to rewrite the whole thing but the app update was just 3 megabytes that's significantly less I think the carriers are saying hey thank you google you're putting less wear and tear and less server load on our networks that are completely congested so I think that's cool and I think it's way more if it consumers are gonna be happy too because that's less data caps exactly um and then also more news motorola slashes twenty percent of their their workers basically they're gonna focus on fewer devices and make fewer devices better so i like the fact that their day focusing us making 14 razors yeah hey I mean that is just one device i guess but every month or so they add one more feature and release it again and colors they're not going to release 800 colors that are really yet every month or so you can re release it in a new color too yeah so I like this focus on fewer devices and I'm excited to see what they call it yeah hopefully things get better there so let's move on to some patent news i know that a samsung reverse apple has been chugging along that's definitely the big thing in the news but the the more recent thing i want to touch on first is the this new motorola suit apparently motorola since being owned by google so this is essentially a google sanction action has filed suit against apple for patent infringement and they're using pretty much almost verbatim the same kind of rhetoric that Apple does of thee well we're just protecting our IP exactly it's you know honey pie all right to pursue anybody that's emerging on our blah blah blah blah yeah the exact same stuff that apple says and they're they're fighting back so it's it's seven patents that's about all we know about it we don't know what the patents are what exactly the infringement claims are but it's against the iPhone the iPad all of the iphones all of the iPads and some of the mac computers so and they want to import ban them yet they want an import ban that these are the extents of the details we know that we don't really know what patents are at stake it's at the ITC I think so the process is pretty convoluted and takes pretty long times with this isn't like tomorrow those devices are going to disappear but hopefully tomorrow we'll know a little bit more about what this the suit is the the Apple Samsung case is definitely the bigger one for the week though between judge Cote basically telling Apple that they must be smoking crack if they think that she's going to read all of this paperwork and in the same day yelling at Samsung for choosing to not waste time cross-examining apples not particularly important witnesses because they wanted to conserve their time for their own uses right like she's placed these ridiculous time constraints on them and then she yelled at Samsung for conserving their time so she's been she's been all over the place I mean I know the smoking crack comma got a lot of press but really like her rulings and her attitude throughout this entire trial have just been very unprofessional she very much seems like somebody who's looking for the limelight for herself and no longer actually cares about being a reasonable judge in the trial and the final words are going to be on Tuesday I believe Joe i if you base that they have their final i believe closing statements yep well what they have left is Samsung has about half an hour left and apple has i believe about 16 minutes left or yeah cross exams exactly and that will be held tomorrow um yeah but then once they do that then until tuesday is closing so close they own their arguments yeah so if you guys are no going to listen to news or have something going on Tuesday and you really want to know what happens and I suggest I'm going to be watching my my phone my tablet all day long I kind of doubt the jury will come back on Tuesday yeah but I I think that it'll be interesting what they're closing statements are and what kind of for sure and what kind of foot they leave themselves on with the jury yes yes I don't think the jury will come back for probably not until at least wednesday probably thursday or maybe friday i'm gonna say fri I think legitimately it'll take them awhile to deliberate like there are legitimately a lot of of reasonable questions to be asked and a lot of really detailed crap that they have to read over like this isn't an easy case this was over a layperson right like we know a lot about these devices because we attend Shinto it but just somebody off the street doesn't really know would Android device from an iphone from any other device because I don't care about those sorts of things yeah even though Samsung god I think it was two or three of their supposedly infringing devices thrown out of the case um they still have how many more it's like I seats like five or six yeah i mean that's still a lot of advice really big deal is they got the international sgs2 removed which on the one hand i'm surprised that it was ever included in the first place Apple has no jurisdiction to sue over that device in this country it also get imported in any like commercial way there are people who privately import them but like Samsung doesn't have any kind of control over that yep very true like that device never should have been on the docket in the first place now I mean that's really the big seller out of the sgs2 line is the national one the u.s. ones were several different name devices some of which aren't even part of this case because they look significantly different from the iphone yeah I mean if you guys haven't been listening to this trial or reading about this trial and it's very interesting to see what how they try to defend their their sides and some of it's laughable and some of them twice oh yeah they definitely have a ballot point thanks very interesting if you're into that type of stuff but yeah Oh on other news in kind of are starting to wrap up got my nexus 7 so so Scott I want to know right now are you gonna read it I'll read it yeah Jesus Christ and only thing I say it's just it's a Wi-Fi only there's less stuff so I I thought Anderson is going to root his first android device and i'll tell you what i'll be damned if you are doing it wanna hangout on air oh oh yeah we should do that we will we will read your first device on a hangout on man with us oh yeah yeah whoever up also has a nexus 7 and wants to follow along we'll set a day for that um maybe next week um if all timing works out yeah I'm over that um before sadly after eight one as well also uh to our viewers if you want to suggest a nap I take the bus in the morning and I want to use my nexus 7 to read news what is the best app for me to cash all the news before and then read on the bus before I go to work for after my suggestion was people currents because that's I had currently that I said the same thing so if anybody out there had any other ideas yeah give us another idea Scott Scott's look into maximizes nexus 7 News I said we have one vote or two votes for current so far now the thing that really sucks as I can't connect to the Wi-Fi my work why not it has a special token that I need to talk to the ID IT department in order to get those IT guy agent your address I'm gonna find an IT guy and I'm gonna talk to him about a month and then I asked the question well you know what speaking from an IT guy we are in an error bring your own device to work you want to get on the Wi-Fi should not be more receptive to that but at the same time depending on your career environment yeah policies and so forth a lot of times you don't want to put personal devices on a corporate you know Wi-Fi network so you didn't you know it's a toss-up depending on what your policies are where you work at but speaking of things not related to the Nexus 7 um I'll a real quick mention the vizio co-star it started shipping on the fourteenth just a few days of driving number I did get a tracking number mine is on its way here other people started getting there's actually today many of you actually may even have it today so start posting your screenshots your unboxing videos your walkthroughs everything I can't wait to see it and next week we'll do an extensive review on it because chances are probably one Monday look it looks by the tracking number we do have a half shell Vizio half routing and then a little bit of news in the between that's not on sale in general no no because it'll be worse stock if the viewers like that idea um let us know um if you want to structure for next week make the structure for next week and will follow suit whatever is the most popular um I'm excited for it we're pretty excited all right Scott uh so you know Derek more actually made a comment Derek NORs a previous show guests and a friend of ours he actually asked why not just tether your phone tether your Galaxy Nexus on the way to work oh we don't have neck that you got a root user no I can over the issue iris he told us before the show he doesn't get any service on his bus ride to work if I perfect service I can they're just fine without rooting jimmy fox five that is correct okay so so I mean I I would have no problem good uh tethering it's just the fact that I get no service I do get service at work so i might implement that at work but I still just mostly the bus run out using a whole bunch at work just during lunch so I feel like I'm a what intelr it at work to catch your bus right at home all we're getting some feedback on the routing show apparently Chris thinks that a routing show is not going to be that exciting but Chris I guarantee we will do everything in our power to not just show a wall of texting commands well we all do the whip test type tote tote yeah yeah that's that's pretty boring yeah well uh we'll do news while Scott's failing and typing his commands and it won't just yeah it won't be about a big DK just to interject in the middle oh my god i bricked it I'll tell what we'll we'll add some stuff to it it'll be fun yeah it'll be a good time alright guys so so uh next week possible Scott's first android root no not possible it will happen okay when will happen okay good to know and all sorts of co-star the next generation of google TV information and it's starting to arrive in people's phones today and just to let you guys know um we are on YouTube obviously we're on google+ obviously um if you guys are watching on youtube we'd like to follow the comments on google+ android authority google+ page that's where we follow we do look at the youtube comments but after the show we kind of use them in our next show so just take that in consideration also we're on stitcher radio brussels on podbean we are also on soundcloud and itunes so if you want to listen to our stuff and also we're throwing around some ideas for shows and other stuff so get ready for some new stuff in the future and we're pretty excited about that all right Dan it was wonderful how you get thank you for your minimal this evening it was uh it was great and uh if you like the idea of a damn rant section please let us know we are toying with adding that a minute Dan rant you just a teeter-totter right now and what's kind of leaning towards etiquette basically he's not basically he's needed the whole entire show and just to let him we're just going to let him loose at the end bye guys have a good night thank you for watching thank you for listening see you next week have a good weekend
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