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welcome to android authority on air the original hangout show for android on google+ I'm dare cross and I'm Scott Anderson this week we are joined by the same people that have been here the past two weeks these new guests not just kidding oh we love having you damage on welcome back ah fun times thanks for being your guys so so Scott well we're going to talk about this week where I'll get new iPhones right here right pre-order is set so we're talking about the Android ecosystem also when we going over about four different apps that were updated that are significant also some ICS updates and devices new devices coming out and also devices that are all right now that might be get updates we're going to go into our route and raman section and there were me talking about the iphone 5 how does it stack up to current android phones hardware software things like that there when we going over some carrier news and android security and some pet wars oh good what's uh let's get some general android awesomeness that we found out a few days ago on the eve of the iphone 5 announcement Andy Rubin and Hugo Barra big names and Google and Android decide to let the world know that Android had reached 500 million devices activated across the entire globe if you remember just two weeks ago or a week ago I think at the motorola on display event it was 480 million so we got another 20 million over the past about about a week in which we know that's happening because 1.3 million are being activated daily so obviously a little over a week later we're gonna hit 500 million which is a massive over 3 million avec what's that that's a little faster Timon Quinton well it's growing it's a train that can't be stopped in this that's 2.8 million well Oh a week yeah yeah so it's grown it's crazy I mean I'm sure the numbers you know maybe they announced were a little lower maybe was you know maybe they just rounded down around it up but still this is probably really hard to track especially global I am in tears over Rob extremely hard to track I mean either way that's insane you know so Android entrance huge I mean I mean when we saw the iphone 5 announcement following day they didn't talk about numbers they don't talk about numbers because they don't want to but variate a third globally seventeen percent compared to sixty-eight percent they're not going to talk about that so the numbers they like talking about are the ipad numbers and the tablet numbers just because they got there first and that's the one thing they have to grasp onto yeah they're doing well with that you know they really are so I'll incidentally you know you go I think they announced it the day before the iOS the end the apple event uh just a little thorn in the side of Apple that the millions big dog before the announcement that's is my pity yeah because they had that 480 million announcement like a week before at the motorola vent and then they were like oh yeah by the way we just added 20 million devices in a week yep exactly so uh it's map updates the street this week a few of them that people care about actually it's a big one was google wallet um and another update to Google odd as a whole they're discontinuing prepaid cards which i think is fine um and since the update of all the major support for all the major credit cards on usage has doubled which is pretty coming they didn't say what it started that no it didn't but used to just doubled so that's good and then make sure you guys because of a rooted device to pick up the new apk for Google Wallet I know I verizon along and it stopped working but then I updated it and now it's fine yeah there's been a lot of fun we'll say known around the android blogosphere today saying oh no verizon and google blew up Google Wallet doesn't work anymore especially not true a week ago in September 5th google wallet was updated so if you installed that update from a little over a week ago you couldn't automatically update it because you're on verizon you're not even supposed to have it but if you got the APK for however you got it you were fine here you weren't locked out today you know it's been over a week most people didn't install the update so all of a sudden they were locked out no big deal I mean it's not newsworthy on the why everybody's making a big deal you know I'm supposed to have it anyways I'm verizon head and go out there download and install it it's gonna work great I mean I used it today you know it it works fine um but it is you said Scott to go back what they talked about discontinuing the prepaid cards but that means is you know previously Google Wallet didn't support adding any credit card that you had you you could only add a citibank mastercard so when the a month ago or so whenever that big update came out and allowed any card to be added it kind of put a hindrance on no why do you need a google prepaid card whenever you can add your own credit card or there's no point in having a prepaid card anymore because you can add any card want to so they're just going to do away with it because there's no need to have it except for that nice little ten dollars you get for adding a new google device a new google wallet device so if you have a phone that supports it such as a Nexus device nexus 7 galaxy nexus you know whatever nexus s 4g if you've never used your 10 bucks you want to do so in the next few weeks come october 17th they're going to disable it and you can get your money back its own like that ten dollars or even if you put money on if you put 50 bucks on it's not like that money's going away you're going to get a refund the money be accessible to you but if it's there you might as well use it so you know go go ahead if you have free money there go ahead and use it and uh mr. real quick we have another user ask about that earlier she was curious about her where she can go to actually use google blog well if you download the app called i'll just lost my mom I just escaped from my head um hey PayPass locator if you download the app called mastercard paypass locator it'll show you every PayPass accessible place in your area uses it uses google maps shows you nice little overlay shows you are the rat so you know if they take paypass and the day the heck they take NFC payments it's really you know quick and dirty little hats going to download that app install it I'll show you I replace it it does mastercard paypass which generally means they accept google wallet still a good thing to do too because people always turn heads when they view beam your phone over there are everywhere that i've been they'd be like what phone is head what what space age is this you're paying with your phone like that doesn't work here like no you understand you see this thing here that means a little really it does work here you just don't know about it we that doesn't work here sir what it does like yeah doesn't watch it in terms of your heads does i'm still is still pretty useful there like a sam brain bag pre-k prepay cars like gift cards yeah she could like a almost like western union somebody some money real quick if they're in a tight spot eventually that'd be pretty cool well so another hat that was updated her frosh paypal yeah another app that was updated was turntable FM I know me and Derek jumped on this pretty early this app when it came to Android if you don't know what it is it's basically a DJ service that you get to listen to DJ's play music on it got some bug fixes that were pretty significant to the app when it was initially released and had a lot of bugs and Derek what else was updated in that well this week they added jellybean notifications you know the expandable notifications that the rich notifications that so you can awesome or you know lame ass all right from the notification your dream songs that's great yeah yeah it's fun I and you can expand them such as you you're supposed to be able to on jellybean actually released two updates this week i believe beginning the week the first update ad added the jellybean notifications actually took a screenshot posted on google+ hello my god jellybean notification and turntable and then I you know Tabitha a curse cape back to two turntables on FM and you couldn't read anything it was all blurry and Moses like they're you I cracked out the fonts horrible you can read anything and they'll update that came out later in the week yesterday actually fixed that it hasn't crapped out after taking a screenshot or or hitting home and go to the home screen and then you know tapping back in fair shape of an updated releasing that both fix like two days later that's good sir it's not so much anymore an iOS port that app they've actually added the ability to share with Android before you could just share it I don't know Facebook Twitter it's been so long you couldn't can maybe email it actually didn't use the intense and Android to share now it actually pops up in a little android share window and you can pick drafts like you can in android so it's not just a an iOS port anymore they're actually doing some stuff to it that make makes it functionality nice and I said that a jelly bean notification so it's it it's a it's a hybrid app now you know a little bit of ILs no look you know but it's good I like it um if you guys remember back we had the chameleon team on air with us and we went over some future releases and just kind of what their overall outlook is for their app and those you don't know it started out as a Kickstarter project it's called chameleon and it was updated to zero dot 990 and basically this iteration of this app introduces their new widget API so basically developers can build their own widgets or chameleon and they basically noted that their API is still in development so they're still working out some bugs but the fact that other developers can develop or this app is pretty cool let's God some breaking news on that if you're watching write down your fan of chameleon we're actually having them on next week just found out about now ago um they have some big news they have a big update coming out and we're gonna have him on the air next week to talk about so since so join us next week and also ebay official ebay android app was released um it was released him that it was recalled on input yeah but dirt you gots more information on this because i don't use ebay that much Oh dad hollow dad did Santa hello how are you I you know okay well yep all that that's basically yeah they had a holo UI overhaul um you know brought it into you know I Ice Cream Sandwich era it's not bad i installed if i used it i like i like Halle laughs I really did you know that's one of the most it's always good to see that come every time i see i have i gotten to the point where any time I don't see a Holloway up I kind of get mad about it near that I try to use just hollow apps on my phone cuz they look so much better yeah and it's the fact that the developer is staying true to these standards that are set which I like that you know John look I can do not use accident hauler you know they just feel old yeah yeah yeah I hate that ninja menu button just kills me yeah exactly I hate looking down below and seeing the menu button there but you don't do anything what are you doing there you know I I don't kid I hated no no turret the odd the place forgotten app update right oh not so much an app update but they they added something new area rather have focus area it just it just came out right before the show so we're just talking about before the show hey uh yeah an appt focus area oh and right now they're using it to focus on blood fashion we could fashion at fashion and style yeah right there at the top when you go yes what's a great release first first released yeah that's a key that's a cute little Android icon to social you open up the Play Store at the top it's gonna say you know fashion focus or I'm sorry it's go say at apps focus fashion and style a little glamour Android there if you will you open up is it's just a different way to showcase apps that it up you know that fashion and style app that's all yeah and I think it's a neat addition I don't know that fashion styles is obviously probably not our it but I think if they continue to expand it and put app focus areas on more you know more areas i think that's a good thing mm-hmm because a lot of the deal days that he used to have four dollar apps and everything really helped a lot of developers out of it made some of a mad because it kind of boosts a lot of people to the top that maybe you know had an app that but any recognition is always nice if you put a lot of good work in i would like to see more tightly regulated to applications that meet android standards in a lot of situation yeah hard agree with that so we had some ice cream sandwich updates this week the verizon samsung galaxy tab got ice cream sandwich nearly a year after was released so I don't schedule for verizon right right on schedule yeah so if you have a galaxy tab 10.1 on verizon congratulations for for getting a better operating system the honeycomb you know it's a lot faster but more fluid few bells and whistles here and there but not jelly bean and I I remember being in this position he last year talking about devices finally getting gingerbread update you know after a you know a long time months and months and months after ice cream sandwich was released I hate it I hate talking about but progress is progress hopefully the galaxy tab 10.1 gets a jelly bean update before the end of the year that would be nice a lot of Samsung devices are a few of them are slated at least rumor to get then so as soon as October only things are bounded by how soon you could possibly get it and not by how scarf off you could possibly get yeah then the 50k kind of help there a little bit yeah you know it did Oh since these since the Android uh yeah I don't know what it was called what was announced at i/o 2011 I think it's called the PDK but it gives hardware Williams earlier access to them usually would so 2012 the platform and software development yet but the the consortium I don't know wills call because it didn't do anything you're talking about yeah yeah yeah the joint agreement that they all came to be such like that amounted to nothing yeah critics said we're not where we're not gonna have fragmentation and we're going to have updates right away what and it didn't work so Google said well we're going to scrap this idea since a David start and they're gonna do the PDK I mean hopefully we start seeing some updates soon I'm guessing we really won't see it like in until later on whenever device is actually launched with jelly bean and then the next verte you know and key lime pie comes out we'll be able to judge then if the PDK is actually doing anything right now I mean it's too soon yeah yeah yeah it is too soon as Dan said I don't know that they'll even help all verizon please Galaxy Nexus I'm kill an animal for jelly bean so well we have some information a little bit later we talk about routing Roman a little bit about some verizon devices so let's talk about device is speaking of devices uh the verizon samsung galaxy s3 got a little over the air update and no it's not jelly bean but it fixed norscot it fix some sim errors that people were getting but more importantly chances are if you watching the show or listening to the show you may or may not read your device and it is due through your device and you do have the galaxy s3 I'm not sure since the this up they just came out I don't know but if it was it just you know an operating system patch it did anything the bootloader I haven't looked that far into it but if it did touch that bootloader uh you don't want to install because the currently leaked bootloader that's out that it allows your device to be unlocked is not updated to that updated bootloader if there is an updated look so please proceed with caution before you flash it you download it you install you get the over-the-air update no a double check to see if there is a bootloader patch in that over there update and something to walk into to we're talking about that prior to the show none of us have the galaxy s3 so we we haven't looked into it but be sure to that you know to know what you're flashing before you actually flash you I'll walk you want to lock yourself out of your device turning on also known as you're breaking your device the the kindle fire and the fire HD 7 that we talked about a week ago you can now buy them there are available amazon com so yeah we had some ma listen discussions if you should buy those devices I think long story short is if you're on the Amazon ecosystem go for it if you're not and if there are some other places you can look at such as Google's Nexus 7 but if you already own the Android or sorry the Amazon ecosystem I mean it's it's a logical step yeah I mean if you're very tied into Amazon go for it but if if you're not or you use Amazon and other things don't don't bother and the droid razr m we talked about last week as well and is now available and that's how that's a badass little film if if I didn't know me I'm a root ramen guy I got a customized my device if a friend or family member was up for contract renewal right now and had to have a phone and couldn't wait another two months to find out what the next Nexus does if it comes out on verizon if I would tell them to get the raise around so if you're waiting on a device and you needed fun that's a that's a great little fun some friends in the industry some fellow tech bloggers and technology enthusiast Android busiest actually uh Russell Holly a previous show guest said that that's his daily driver he loves that little guy so when Russell Holly says he likes it the place he's using his daily driver I tend to think of it it's pretty nice you know I mean it's pretty impressive you know what the coolest thing about them then launching this device in my opinion is but showing the general public how how cool NFC can be so you unpackage your new device right there's a piece of paper and eric says hey tap your phone here you tap your phone there and it opens up in actie it's an NFC piece of paper it activates a tag it opens up a web browser and takes you to a website to download an exclusive droid razr and wallpaper all using a tat see the average person doesn't know what NFC is all I know is they touch their phone to a piece of paper and they get to download a cool wallpaper but it lets people know that NFC is easy and cool and has neat functions no no you know what no one else has done that that's pretty darn cool having definitely it's simple you will just don't recommend the m / waiting I mean I don't know how long it's going to be to wait but waiting for the razr HD or HD max you know and they all have great battery life yes I guess it boils down to do you want a larger phone or not you know I like you know some some people within smaller hands women don't want a large film you know they don't put the phone in their pocket you know okay I don't want to put women into that category anymore just because I know you people that I work with women that they just bought the s3 and they love it yeah I was going I know what person that has a note so I mean smoke but I don't know any vote for change and gloves it or is I have a 1s because i thought what ex was to the hot ya know there are women out there that definitely like bigger phones so i think price has to come into the equation for the m2 cuz yeah that's the other thing is it's only it's fifty dollars on contract 99 names i'm sure the razr HD max will probably be in the at least 200 probably three yeah like the last one was when it came out so if you like things big wait for the razr maxx in my opinion but if you can't handle something big need something a little bit smaller the droid razr m is the way to go pony NFC story that we're talking about IFC in the average person of my father was saying that his Galaxy Nexus was making weird noises he had his NFC enabled and whenever he put it by his wallet it would make a digit and it was his credit card and it was pretty funny they kept doing it and he had no idea why I have it a little bit imagine that will head had to go pretty good now let's talk about device it isn't announced yet the LG optimus G is supposed to be announced are rumored at least we assume it's going to be announced here in a week on September 19 um as a killer phone that that's a pretty amazing device mean they're they're packing a lot of uh a lot of nice hard to when to it yeah you're our resident hardware guy you want talk about that for a second yeah on paper this is a fantastic device it's LG so I'm still a little skeptical but it is going to be probably the first stateside device with the Qualcomm Snapdragon s4 pro the quad-core krait at 1.5 gigahertz with the new Audrina 320 GPU paired with the exact same radio that's in this new in the new iphone and also in every has other s4 that's been released said Owen what was what would you say with comparison to the Quran quad cores out there like let's say the top three nothing compares and what why do you say that is it just faster the Tegra 3 is roughly comparable in stats to the dual-core s2 okay so in terms of comparison is we roughly double if not more okay it is vastly better than anything else currently on the market that's not to say that it's going to continue to be vastly better than things coming from other manufacturers in the next few months but compared to anything else currently available it is vastly better and I wonder how they're going to work with battery consumption yeah I mean that is still a question mark yeah because we know that what words can you know suck battery life especially when it's coupled with an LTE um you know so should be interesting to see if the battery life stays the same or the technology that call calm uses should help keep power in check but there's a lot of other sort of question marks in terms of what's using power in your device beyond just the processor and this also has a 4.7 inch what they call true HD IPS plus I don't know why what makes it more true HD than any other HD but it's 1280 by 768 so it 317 pixels per inch so very dense um that's not quite as pixel dense as the the iphone's but it is into apples Retina category of over 300 on the radio that Senate is the the same mdn 9615 that's in the iPhone 5 so have msn or excuse me GSM UMTS WC DNA cdma LTE all over the world so it's a very good pic chip for that um and the disability of the ten FBI PS Plus should be beautiful Fernando Mong Cheng grow he has where you guys think about google wallet and Google removing prepaid cards yeah well we kind of hit that earlier and I see it as a no brainer for google there's no need for a prepaid card anymore because i'll call your cards are supported the original reason that you had them was in case you don't citibank master cuddle well yeah yeah not all cards were supported so if you wanted to use your google wallet he didn't have a citibank mastercard he had to to add money to a prepaid card now since all cards are supported you need to do that anymore so it doesn't affect me ah what i do i am curious about though is is you know and that was always an incentive to use google wall is why hey i got ten bucks for just getting this device to you you know you get your nexus 7 your Galaxy Nexus you activate it and you get to get 10 bucks so how they do in the future they gonna give you maybe a gift card or are they just doing away with it I don't know I mean I hope they bring out gift cards I I feel like that'd be useful and erica's makes a good point but not everybody has a regular credit card yeah but then how if you don't have a regular critic or how you gonna add money to the prepaid card think uh I mean that you not the same way early on whenever we had the prepaid cards it just got annoying because you I mean you'd add on even amounts you'd always end up with an uneven amount left into your account you'd have to keep adding keypad you know I mean you might have one dollar 67 cents left after you make a purchase it's just kind of just laying there with your dad yeah studies like what am I going to spend this only get a pack of gum or something like that maybe that's a better thing to have I mean maybe eventually they'll tie it into your you know you might have it where you can just have your bank account information baked in the Google Wallet itself and then and that's directly off that future so what about the actual card part of it so Jonathan are you saying that you can buy a stick of gum from the Play Store which maybe maybe I'm in fig just run through your versions of anything I see if you can convert that ten dollars of Google Wallet into play store credit be nice well if you get the refund well right but then I've got ten dollars in cash that I don't necessarily need to spend at the Play Store in this murder of googled a lot and spending it there though yeah you're right that would be smart on them now that would that would be smart marketing decision to keep it in their ecosystem yeah so so let's talk about on device Iran come at I'm curious what you guys think about this so motorola which is you know now Google announced the cloud BB and that is a desktop computer running Android and it's only available in China right now so it's very much in my opinion resembles I and imac like an old one you know a non one device it has an 18 inch screen toxic smaller than I've act yeah 18 inch screen the resolution that is 1366 x 768 win it it's a touchscreen it has a 1 gigahertz freescale arm cortex a8 cpu gig of ram for gigs of internal storage has a very highly customized desktop launcher what we would think and it reacts as a desktop writer since it's on gingerbread yeah hey you took away my phone sorry it's running android gingerbread 2.3 point for it's a very customized mush so you see your guarantee that it doesn't have NFC yeah that's true you can also guarantee that your evo your original evo can help perform it and didn't Google nix the desktop uh with the webtop uh technology for motorola motorola did it on their own I was kind of surprised they came with an initial racer update they wanted plain stock tablet interface on the web top aqua and that was how I was shocked when I self cuz a friend of mine has a razr maxx and he showed me when he plotted over hdmi was pretty impressive yeah I mean they could potentially do great things with that but i think that there's a bigger market in a better way to implied it i think i would rather see them maybe do like they did with roo bun too and maybe we do it with chrome OS once someone's chrome gets better arm support i think it would be legitimate to do that so it boils down to is this is the first device that motorola and google it is putting out having android wrong the desktop so what i really call it a desktop right like it's is it really geared towards having a keyboard of mouse yes it has a user it hasn't it has a keyboard mouse it looks like a a imac you know keyboard malice not you know oh god yeah and I really think that it's more so it was motorola when they were motorola mobility still a let the initiative go through obviously yeah i hate Europe that's what I mean look like we were talking about last show is kind of give it some time and we'll see them through google and motorola devices I'd so the HTC One X plus we've got some rumors about that right yeah yeah so today you have an HTC One S yes okay so as it HTC one s you know similar to the one x line what do you think about the the x plus now and we had some information leaked that came out on twitter so you know if you want to believe he leaked on twitter you know it's obviously up in the air but that those rumors put it running the Tegra 3 plus it with a 1.6 gigahertz quad-core maybe a 1.7 gigahertz single core processor yeah that's the way the the Tegra 3 is work when it's running in single core mode it will clock higher than once it goes to all four cores it's slightly lower okay so anything do anything different does it's a higher speed processor from from Tegra or from nvidia it's basically deep sex I'm Tegra 3 that we've been seeing it's just overclocked we see we see a gig of ram and a 32 gig rom an 1800 milliamp hour battery yeah I mean it's a boost over the original international 1x but it's only a slight boost it is not yeah it's a very slight boost the big deal I think is that it other rumors I've heard or that it's gonna be coming with jelly bean and with sense 4.5 so I think that's the more interesting part about it I also don't yet know what carriers it's supposed to be on I've heard AT&T I've heard t-mobile I I don't know if it's only a TNT I think that's more interesting because then it's gonna have LTE together with a tiger three manufacturers need to push the all carrier aspect it works for samsung and it will work for other companies too it'll work for the iphone as well yeah i mean HTC tried and failed yeah i think that's part of the reason samsung so successful because this is really a downer when you see an awesome phone AT&T or tmobile and you're not with them and they have to wait six months to see it come out it's just really just kind of drops the bottom out from under you when you haven't wait that long and stare at it yeah so acer isn't really know putting out a whole lot of smartphones right um acer is coming out with the cloud mobile s500 yeah it's good you know I'm interested in this because it's it's an acer uh you know they're generally not produced a whole lot of phones I think only one phone previous this it could be wrong I've been wrong once my life so all the chance number two um okay we don't generally see you a lot to make sure i mean i have an easter iconia a500 tablet nearly anyone hires a great tablet it seven hundred mean they make a lot of nice tablets they're not top at the end you know must have to die for tablets but but they're nice tablet so i'm curious to see what how this is going to work out and it's all bit smaller then you know the bigger five-inch phones that are becoming the norm it's a 4.3 inch phone has a gig of ram 8gig of internal memory which is all a gang that's all small compared to you know the big guy we're just talking about 32 gig phone an 8-megapixel rear-facing camera and if you want to update the storage well you know you can slap a microSD card in there but the big thing about this device is it it is the resolution of that 4.3 inch HD IPS display it'sit's 1280 by 720 which actually turns out to be 342 pixels per inch and that iphone man that I found your that awesome magical device it it's only rock'n say retina one more sometimes retina it's 326 pixels per inch so acer is putting out a higher pixel density screen that's cool same density has the HTC Rezound that came out closet I know the Razon was the first is actually surprised a surprising those are the two most pixel density vices on the market not I anything yeah so a guy of ICS yeah you know and we can sweep we can argue about that again it sucks it's horrible but you know bring your pitchfork to kill the fire we don't want ICS on devices such as this but that's what we're getting it's a hgf hspa+ device so you know its own lives so with that I said tmobile it is to say itself so international users uh and t-mobile users that rejoice and have a processor it is doesn't uh you know I didn't see that on the release i I've been said to see it sounds like a glaring omission MIT in Tel Dan Intel is it no no it's gonna be a little upset there for a second oh you don't get upset over hardware oh that's true the Intel is do look impressive and I just don't expect them to be in high-end devices right now there's warming I go on the root and Robin realm and um so real quick who's gonna see him 1000 things real quick on that region ramen so cm10 did something we'll meet they haven't done before they came out with monthly bills some people call milestone bills but you know or you know my my mind as they send our website whatever you want to call it it can often em build it all that means is it's an experimental build and what they did about a week prior to releasing the M bill based they did a code freeze on new features and this worked on you know plumbing up some of the bugs that they have it you know state and make it a little bit more stable than a nightly built and that's what that's what it is it's more stable than nightly it's an experimental those are going to be a bug yes my camera force closed about two hours ago taking a picture and I'm around the M bill so yeah there are there are still bugs in it it's it's an experimental build it's a more stable than nightly yes should you run it what if you run the nightly it's more stable than nightly is it is it a release canutillo types ability no is it awesome yes and they plan to continue to do this all the way up until stable if the response is good so if you're seeing fan let them know that yes this is cool keep it up we like it and we'll see more on the CM in front as well we saw the zoom LT eating in zoom Wi-Fi get some gingerbread well our gingerbread well gazzara jellybean love uh we get some gingerbread love you guys have to see gingerbread running are those devices actually there you go cm 747 on my Nexus does that be an inside project and we don't take it up oh I says what I guarantee nobody has ever worked on no so the wing ray and the Stingray I got some jellybeans love from CM and yeah the Wi-Fi that's nothing new for the Wi-Fi addition to have jellybeans because it officially has it we haven't seen a whole lot of love coming to the LTE variant which is on everybody's favorite fast to update carrier verizon wireless so those of you that have them such as Scott I've got the thing to know John has one to regret it so what last but not least see in the signage modern announced that they're gonna update some AOSP acts such as the clock him the clocks pretty much it's an alarm clock in a clock if that that's all that it is would it be nice we can do more such as be you know a timer or stopwatch yep those features are coming out thanks to thanks to see em and and they're in the midst it hasn't been approved yet but I'll Garrett there's an actually I think it's even on the Play Store actually to demo there's a new calculator as well so it'll be as long as you know all the bugs get worked out will see that it in future iterations of CM too very cool very cool the CM team is is always trying to do things to keep us interested in them and in innovating yeah it made more than half which we'll get to right now all right so you guys know about the iphone release apples want to learn release um we gotta talk about it just because it's a big release and there they always have big releases not saying that they're a big release into the future but they are big releases and people are going to buy a lot of you know that on this though we kind of want to do a little bit of a comparison between the iphone and iOS somewhat it kind of has to offer versus the Android ecosystem years ago as well as today and how it kind of matches up so uh yeah and what we got for um these specs for the bird where we really don't have a whole lot of information on the specs for the hardware we know it as an a6 processor they gave us some performance specs of being twice as fast as the a5 I also assume that's the iphone 4s running on iOS 5 compared to the iphone 5 running on iOS 6 so some of that's attributable to the operating system and not the processor um twice as fast graphics processors usually you know kind of arbitrary comparison numbers they don't tell me anything about the actual chip one of the big is because i think is the bigger screen i mean i think a lot of people that have the lesser rock homes or their previous gen iphones are going to look at it and be like oh ok is it has a 4-inch screen but we all know in the Android world that we've had less than 4 inch screens we've had up to 5.3 inch screens and they've been phones and they come in every shape color size weight whatever prices as well so 4 inches adding point 5 inches to it is not that big of a deal and it still does not i would say on android 4.3 is this is the standard lowest screen size there's a few forage but they're getting hard to find these days yeah uh so what's the biggest announcement about what's the most impressive stat about to scott the most to you soon i would say that it's a really impressive but the fact that it does have LTE which it didn't before that's a great on upgrade for particularly find impressive that they have created to using these are technologies every other company boards been using since the first quarter of this year but isn't there a little bit of caveat with that yes for cdma carriers to really just for Sprint and Verizon um unlike everybody else using this particular radio Apple will tell you that the hardware itself does not allow for you to do simultaneous cdma at a voice and data or side-by-side cdma voice and LTE data um that statement really demonstrates a lack of understanding from apple it's the exact same radio that's used in every Snapdragon s4 device so that's the Samsung Galaxy S on all four carriers that's the HTC one x and s and incredible and all three of them you will enroll us and really any device that's been released this year with LTE the exact same radio is all of these all of those on cdma carriers can do simultaneous voice and data over CMA or side by side voiceover CMA and data over ltp this is an iphone problem in an apple problem notice that they decided basically to conserve space and and does not bother to go out of their way for cdma carriers basically they needed to add an extra antenna to allow for that scenario and they decided not to to conserve space so it was very much a we don't this device is looking pretty is more important to us than it functioning well yep and I think one of the really big things especially for users as well as developers is the fact that they change the screen size 24 inches now this is the one of the first iterations of fragmentation for the iOS ecosystem just because really the first you know it really is because all the other extreme resolutions have been a multiple of 4 a-4 yeah I mean the only the only other split that we've seen is the phone to the pad right they I found rich the ipad was the first big jump but the different sizes of the phones or the different sizes of the ipads of all that perfect scales of the previous yeah having this four inches not be a multiplier of four is an issue because all apps that are not compatible with the new resolution are going to have a basically a letter box of black bars that take up the screen and you're just going to see a regular iphone 4 or iphone 4s look and it's just a black bar so this is really unfortunate and they haven't developed a way to automatically scale your ex like Android has so and an Android users haven't even made fun of this at all I haven't seen anybody making images of long skinny phones like a hundred stories high or being used as life savers or anything like that I mean his right users are basically feeling so sorry for iOS about make it this at all like I may have slipped a time or two I have to only once used by Oh more than more than one occasion when it messed up and slip one in one came out of the iphone 6 7 8 9 10 and each one's getting longer and longer hager I haven't seen no no oh I'm sure it's gonna be coming soon and it wasn't trying out google plus I mean oh god I but i need a bus at all day dairy didn't get flamed for either no i did not visit there was no trolling there was no trolling done you were just pointing it out dude no I'm saying you got troubles you're raising rails oh I was accused of being a troll yes because I made a comment hey look it's trending it's like oh no look there's such a troll Derek you know what people tell so insulting California damn hippies are hippies if you write they are hippies let me know it's kind of interesting there because they're finally kind of suffering the limitations of their own framework now yeah because they never ever told developers to get ready to be able to scale up different and they are so mean on the other hand it's not like this hasn't been leaked extremely well its last six months and it is just fun because now they've I don't know how they're gonna do they gonna separate the different types of apps in the App Store to ya backwards compatibility perhaps so like if you're getting an iphone if you're still out iphone 3g or 3gs you have to download all of the extra crap for those ridiculously high res ipad these photos true or it to free her comparatively very low resolution iphone 3g they lost like the app spy advice yeah the last thing I kind of wanted to bring up with regard to the iphone is the biggest lack thereof and that little technology called NFC that's been slowly being adopted and we kind of need a number phone or phones as many as we can to push the push this standard NFC the iphone does not have NFC um which is unfortunate because less people are going to adopt it quicker but if it did have NFC it would have been great for us Andrew people as well as iOS people and everybody would have been happy so I think it's kind of a bummer and the remarks made by the Apple CEOs and stuff about NFC and the importance of it kinda made me upset so this is a selfish very specific these most polite way to put it but the thing is they need to have features that they don't have in the next phone in order for people to buy their next phone so I mean really I think that it may come out later if it is adopted things like that yeah they just don't have a way of monetizing yet yeah that's the only thing that's on them back because I you know Microsoft has their you know Microsoft developed theirs and they're using NFC with Nokia and of course Google's got google wallet i think apple just doesn't have any ecosystem to tie into to make it a thing they know that if they hold back longer and it's kind of that's what makes me mad is it it's holding us back it's loading windows phone back it's holding you know yeah I don't know if blackberry 10 is going to have NFC but it's I mean they're just screwing over the rest of the end straight because of their own so my largest observation about the iphone was the wii android users android fans aren't the only ones that see this as not that big of a deal upon looking at various Mac forums people were actually saying I'm just going to wait for the iphone 5s you know we know which is unannounced a year from now I mean that one that one's that one's gonna kill Android ha how wanna be the one that doesn't this next why where have I heard this before and you imagine i follow Sprint's gonna kill Android next Nexus to come out and let's just give it a name the rumored name was rumored to be a lot of the the Samsung Galaxy Nexus to wow that's a shorten it needs to be longer it's an android phone okay that's announced everybody look at and say no away for the god to Nexus three I mean yes yeah I can't imagine in the Android will sing now i'm just gonna wait for next year's model that's pretty bad so I'm curious I mean they're gonna sell a lot oh sure they haven't already they sold out there there appreciate like wow with then again like you look at it I think with jimmy kimmel give me come with an iphone 4 I was really falling people as an iphone 5 never reveal oh my god so much that i have an iphone and this is so much faster oh wait it's lighter it's a rock that look at that straight like come on now now if you haven't seen it yet check out Jimmy Kimmel's YouTube video he speaking of trolling what was the public he chose them a year old device and everybody thinks it's a mess like that it wasn't it was a for you know either way what kind of nice devotes the big question is ok you can they even right changed their design because if they you know abandon their own trade dress then how are they going to claim somebody's infringing on it if they just radically change it up all of a sudden they're not going to be able to say you know we're using rectangles of rounded corners too because there isn't they advised okay and making a joke that I'm going to patent something else try notice to sum up the release kind of lackluster kind of holding everybody back um catching up another yeah catching good way to put it I so let's do it we got some Kirian news yeah you know LTE all the things right android users need know where we can get some LT ease and uh and iPhone users not to yes well good on either device so no no watch you soon um so ATT they're expanding their network and they have to write they're pretty much know where uh they're going to be coming to Philadelphia yeah Pennsylvania oh that's bird I'm right in the middle so I can't use it uh Seattle one in the dozens of other places across the country basically they're they're planning on hitting up 44 new markets not in the minute in the very near future by the end of the year they're gonna they're gonna be they said in a total of forty-four markets by the end of the wait wait that's a total I thought that was just 40 more than 40 for more new markets by thing on no no just oh wow burning up what made oh yes Pegasus rider 380 something but resins covering seventy-five percent of the market of the closure great Nate me they're going 40 44 cities 18t cog 344 yeah they're doing it right um now speaking a big guy big daddy big red verizon also announced this past week that they're expanding in areas such as its bird can I love to our view it doesn't anything for me um Kansas City Lawrence Kansas City actually a Kansas and Missouri Tampa Florida Tallahassee Florida Buffalo New York whole bunch of places yeah it looks like eastern Kansas and big chunks of southern and western Florida State that are also hitting up to me ya know I mean their plan is but in 2013 to have their network as bit their 4g network as big as a 3g network so get in everywhere ya know they are moving very quickly now the little one little guys loyalty sprint you know that's only in less than ten areas right now right um which doesn't sound that bad next to 44 really i mean that's twenty-five percent i'm as they started after know well Spring spreads hit it pretty hard they're looking to be in a hundred markets in the coming months so is that money any more markets yeah hundred more market so they're definitely going to be larger than eighteen t if they can bring this to fruition very quickly well the list is too large to list here you can check sir sprint's website can check our website or authority calm and you can find out the list they were where we actually list every place they're going to be basically it's not bad they're blanketing a lot of major areas from coast to coast in many places in between so I could go ahead and I hit up our website but it's more than double 18 T's footprint and in half the time I really really think that sprint is going to be a force to be reckoned I think so they are investing so much money into their network and the fact that their LTE network is upgradeable um which that's a very strong point of good base to start on yes oh this is your sprint gonna be a force to be reckoned with yeah verizon still revision 8mm with sprint starting with nine yeah easy step 210 yeah yeah no I mean this is the this is the benefit of sprint's network vision right like the fact that they can just flip a switch and turn on a hundred cities overnight and AT&T can't do that verizon's moving fast but even they can't just boom 100 cities and over the next couple of months late that's because sprint went around and upgraded their network to prep for its now all they have to do is just flip a switch and boom you've got LTE and it's concentric with all of their other towers so all they have to do is flip a switch and it covers the exact same as their 3g footprint not hate to be on the don't do t whenever they do flip that so sure yeah because what's the other hand they don't exactly have a lot of it is technician for that one yeah all right well there's no other further questions here I'd like to remind our viewers and listeners that we are giving away a samsung galaxy note 2 international edition if you go to our website android authority com you can register for the giveaway the contest and on the rafflecopter love how it's called rafflecopter on the rafflecopter you get various opportunities to win entries and one of them is for this show is podcast depending on how you're listening or watching to 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