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welcome to android authority on hair the original hangout show for android on google+ I'm dare cross not a Scot Anderson this week we are joined by returning guests John Franklin as well as film enthusiasts from technician the company the mastermind behind chameleon launcher welcome guys glad to have you again some thangs so Scott what's on the agenda this week besides chameleon well we're really talking about some Android ecosystem news some app updates that added a lot of functionality over this long week where we go over a chameleon launcher and some new updates and some feature stuff and then we're going to go over some new and rumored devices Android devices we're going to be going over updates for jelly bean ice cream sandwich we're doing some little bit of rooted ramen and then Pat whores and some carrier news you know i like i like reading interop we're gonna hold off on that so let's talk about some android news real quick Google Play continues to grow the Play Store is still growing sitting massive they're adding content all the time and this past week they added over 600 titles for movies in the TV shows so if you're the family guy who is in the family guy a modern family prometheus and so forth content like that you can now put that on the Play Store prometheus actually it's not due on blu ray/dvd for heather for about three weeks you can go and get that right now for was it 1499 HD on the Play Store so thank you if you're into alien there Balian blind prometheus is a pretty good movie asst and you can get it before any of your friends can on blu-ray right now yeah I'd be curious to see if google continues to offer things like this you know pretty odd DVD and blu-ray release you're not you know what not to say that I obtain movies de legally that's bad but if I did this might make a person that does that you know move from the illegal way of getting movies to paying for them because I mean high quality movie you're not you have to wait six months for to show off in some online store you're getting it actually three weeks before you can buy in a retail that's amazing that's what we need at Ryerson really as a service problem yeah yeah it piracy is filling filling that service problem so I think that I think this is a good move i'm happy i didn't buy it yet i guess i should practice what I preach but but I uh I am going to do it um speaking of google play the nexus 7 25 dollar credit that you got off because everybody has nexus 7 right well that that $25 credit that you got there canceling that promotion promotion is ending in just a few days on sep tember 30th it's going away so if you're on the fence about buying a nexus 7 you might want to do it very very very soon because that $25 credits going away and if you think about it you spend in 200 bucks in the device or 250 depending on 16 gig or eight gig and you're getting twenty-five dollars off of that products basically because they're giving 25 bucks to buy apps games movies Prometheus you know they're giving you a lot free money that you're going to spend anyways chances are so you're really you know it that's really bringing the cost of the vice down to 175 dollars or to $25 as well as a whole bunch other stuff to bring the cost down but we don't need to get in the neck all the nexus 7 any creating so use it you use it if you have it um and said if you're on the fence about buying it you should you should definitely buy it soon but if you do have them the money the money isn't going away it's going to stay there till next June I believe june thirtieth so you know that that money is still yours to keep they're not taking it away or just stopping the ability for new people new purchases to get that money hope it didn't make that confusing um this week android police posted an article saying all the different things that were wrong with stock jelly bean and lead android designer matias duarte said he saw it and he said you know what you're right android is about a third of the way there where I want it to be there's a lot of work left to do okay back to work so I saw what he did from gingerbread ice cream sandwich and that was amazing and you know and you think you really could get a whole lot better right and then you see from ice cream sandwich to jelly bean or at least you know two percent of population sees that so far so so I me and that's a mammy not see that's even amazing tiny little tweaks here and there and a little bit of polish here and there all that butter that's amazing so this guy is what he's talking about he was what he's doing and if it's only a third of the way there in his mind wow are we in for some some major changes over the next two years or less over the next year I mean I'm excited a couple months when chance you know fingers crossed confidence high when key lime pie comes out I mean what is this guy gonna do for us then more butter more he didn't mention that he did say that even it wasn't just you I but also responsiveness he said he was about a third of the way where he wanted to be but you never even more responsive I mean you can't ever improve on anything if you're going to be an apologist for the operating system it should always be in a state where you think everything could we get better you should pursue perfection so I'm sure I feel as a developer probably appreciate that always trying to make things better bigger better faster absolutely it's never good enough you know like love your baby but it's never good enough they can always be better there's always that next feature you know exactly exactly Oh lastly with the Android news here this past week the IDC the research firm that releases quarterly information on the mobile market they released their numbers stating that Android has a massive sixty-eight percent of the global market share for the past quarter iOS sorry Phil iOS is only rocking seventeen percent out of that and now you're a little bit of a nihilist fan not rely me where I love them both I've got I us I've got android chameleons really made Android sort of my go-to device with my nexus 7 which I love and you should pick it up before that $25 expires you don't have it already yeah you know and for four times that no that's nuts I'm sorry that that's amazing that name sixty-eight percent compared to seventeen percent I I didn't know that it was that time so I mean yeah you could say people were holding out for the iphone five that's why they didn't buy phones the past quarter which is probably true and that could have brought the numbers up or down we'll see you here in a three months with this quarter is but I bet Android still going to be killing on top also there is a countries that Iowa is not offered in so yeah that's kind of a stickler with that lot i relate to the deadly to the party in a lot of countries too and they just don't offer any you know it's one thing if you started out on iOS and you got tired of that ecosystem it's another thing when you bring a phone that doesn't have any more of a feature set late to the party yeah very true anjali feliciano i just saw your comment about root and ramen noodles yes that's actually what our segment is about we go over favorite flavors of element noodles root is apparently one of them written ramen noodles that's great we're gonna start calling it now yeah I so let's move on to some app updates first and notably best in my perspective is Google Maps got updated to version 6.1 to basically this brings desktop sinking in history across all connected devices including navigation history of where you search to go and where you've navigated to and from and there's also a new way to zoom which is very handy basically what you do is you double tap on the screen or the map and you swipe up or swipe down and it's very convenient and it's better than that plus or minus in the bottom right hand corner of the screen you guys think it's a good feature the zoo um no I'm not coordinated enough to parently do with one hand um I work right I normally pinch to zoom in spin and pinch to zoom all at the same time uh I never used a plus or minus to zoom ever I didn't know I was there oh yeah the labs yeah I always pinching I always pinch-to-zoom me obviously I'm using two hands right so I got my one hand holding other hints at your pension and summative do and all that good stuff um yeah I tried the whole one fingered zoom and either I don't understand how could be a different function but it just seems it just seems like it's laggy doing it with one finger maybe me personally with it might be the wrong sir I don't know um rome's don't do anything bad ah um buzzer camera crashes when you open it it might have something to do with me having my setcpu settings up high when Google Maps is running that like on the phone here you're not tweaking your CPU I got lost up tweak time for anything out this guy a month ago didn't even know a root man he isn't he's doing custom roms and kernels and tweet lat ye you are a force to be reckoned with you know that's me it's extremely useful naps is a pretty intensive programming I need a ramp ramp both my clock speed wrap it up random but it seems faster but awesome upgrades also moving on to the next let's talk about maps here just real quick since you you happen to mention yep an image is Google Maps let's just let's just talk about that since it's in the news to dance all over the Internet so apparently I haven't seen any memes related to that turning point did you guys happen to see that image that android authority shared earlier today uh we're apparently some poor guy decided to use iOS iOS 6 to drive this car to his buddy's house Ron upon in top on top of the tree Wow in England there's a heading into somewhere I saw it image of someone saying you know if you upgrade to iOS 6 we have local paper maps here free videos available in the booking office yes so basically what's going on all over the news is people are griping about iOS 6 and maps they ditched the goog in a lot of people were pissed to put to me but one it's horrible from what I'm reading I don't know Phil how is it buddy have you tried it I upgraded to iOS 6 last night and it hasn't been the best experience so far I like the maps like they're nice when they work you know they're pretty good it's nice to have turn by turn but people are having a lot of problems with it it's early could be better i had a great time looking at Big Ben in 3d ok power but that's really the most I've use it but but could you find Big Ben if you had to go that's the thing you know what it I think that I think they got London down it's like or some more obscure locations they don't quite have there's like towels are missing and now in buildings are like I got gas stations apparently located on top of like a skyscraper you know yeah there's stuff like that well I will say this the first thing I did after updating and seeing the new maps app was trying to find a Google Maps iOS app to download and I couldn't find one yeah contended did say they did say they were working on one so I don't know if it gets approved didn't even get to certainly a market for one right now well yeah I mean if you have your desktop and it saves everything from it's crazy I mean the synchronization between maps and the fact that you have an online cloud-based desktop tablet whatever Apple doesn't have that they don't have street view as well they don't have the raw data that Google has and the traffic the traffic data or animal transit stations are awake one in their defense is thinking with version one maybe the next time around gas stations and airports won't be located on top of buildings you know so let's get this biscuit yeah maybe but let's get back talking a little bit but I enjoyed so what's the next athlete good updates guy well the next app is a SoundCloud some of you might be listening to us on soundcloud we are on soundcloud and it got updated basically it adds some new offline editing tools basically you can trim a track you can fade in fade out effects also you can pause and resume audio recording so if you're listening to somebody talk or a speech you can then stop it pause it and then continue recording and it will create a new file it'll create it'll add on to that additional file which is very nice I think in the usability front also I know that we're on google+ but uh facebook is trying some new things they or their stock is following and they have to try some new things so they had some huge improvements to facebook Messenger they had some an option for some people although we don't know how to get it but that you can do some SMS through the facebook Messenger app which is kind of interesting um integrating an almost-dead technology is pretty cool they are also testing their mobile ad network you know Google Plus has no ads well facebook is testing mobile ads because they have to get at revenue and one of my people that I work with I saw an atom written in the middle of the stream and it's invasive and bake yeah I'm almost done right now I wouldn't like and had in the middle of my mobile stream just because that's something weren't accustomed to not seen you know I mean I understand people need to make money but that that's a huge change that's not just a subtle change if it was extremely relevant to me and my location like in Google now I wouldn't mind it yes you know here you're at this coffee shop and they're done day one you know uh here's five dollars off the rest here I think for advertisements even be effective they have to be kind of contextual you're not going to sell somebody something in this situation where they want to if they're scrolling through a stream trying to see what their mom said today or how they're you know whatever they're not in the mode to want to buy something but if you're searching for something and actually looking for something that's the point that you're going to respond to an advertisement a lot of times if you look on google search the official website for the you know what you're searching for will be the advertised and that can understand making money like that because you're giving them something when it's actually useful yeah another thing that Facebook is experimenting with you know that feature that google plus has had around for the robo lap to automatically upload your pictures months since danger zone from the beginning yeah so thats little feature that we know when love on facebook is working on that type of same picture a feature with pictures I don't know about videos but pictures definitely very useful picture I use it all the time I do too I wish it was a tad bit faster when it would show me in the mobile app on what it's uploaded or not yeah yeah I think it's well it's it's not heed for instant I me if you take something instantly want to share it then yeah that's what you use it for but if you're just out and about you're taking a whole bunch of pictures you get home later that night ok I want to share my album that I took her you know whatever then then that's what it's used for or four oops I lost my phone I want to cry lost all my pictures up don't worry they're backed up yeah more for documenting things and enjoying it and then going back and reliving as opposed to taking the picture at old let's be on our phone and share yeah and then uh Derek we got a Twitter update right Twitter yeah so if you're still twittering all the things you're tweeting all over the place uh had some neat new features they looked up new profiles and header photos that's actually kind of cool that's completely different for the me section you can have a header photo like a banner photo streams are 4 profiles and events you can actually pinch to zoom on photos now butch before you weren't able to do that um they have improved account protection account management and this you know polishes fixes improvements here in their bug fixes yada yada yada I think actually search is actually improved to search suggestions for people topics hashtags on it's good stuff so it's a nice sizable update if you're in uh what's our twitter handle android off okay for all you twitter folks android off so and here we had another big app update over the past week Phil as we said is here when din the conversation few times Phyllis is from technician technician is the famous company behind the chameleon launcher for android tablets thus far seen coming to phones um soon young in the parenthesis they started out on on Kickstarter raised a whole bunch of money we had them on a show a while ago talked about the initial release of the device and everything that was going to do and they've come a long way in the past few months uh this past week you guys though released the official version version one on the Play Store for download as well as the past week had tons of updates me no release cannon one and all sorts of stuff so how's that how's that go until would uh well what have you guys been up to since we last talked right so I guess we'll do a quick little history it was actually was just six weeks ago six or seven weeks ago I so23 that I first came on that we had just released the beta but the whole story of chameleon goes back whoa four months ago I was May sixteenth that we started our first Kickstarter campaign and it was really well received we weren't sure we had this idea and we want to see if people were into it we went on Kickstarter people were totally into it however soon afterwards we got embroiled in some scandal and international intrigue and it kind of forced us to cancel the campaign but you know you were down but not out less than a week later we relaunched and reached our goal in less than 24 hours so we knew that we had something camelia was being picked up by thousands of media outlets you know all over the world well he could even read half of them it was unbelievable you know all eyes were on us and it really fired us up you know we were headed towards uncharted territory I was our first self-published application and we had no idea how much work he was going to be when we set out to put a beta in people's hands you know by August but we didn't want to make people wait months and months like many other Kickstarter campaigns do so after what can only be described as a superhuman dedication and work out we began rolling out our first version of the beta on the eve of august first but we didn't have much time to celebrate you know being one of the first software companies to release an app on time because we had a long way to go still and work resumed August second and 50 days later 14 builds and 305 revisions we've reached a point where we thought we're ready to go with v1 we were ready for prime time we you know there isn't an Android device in the office that any of us own you know that we either bring to work or have at home that isn't running chameleon as the default home screen we never see the default Android launcher anymore so I I personally and you know on behalf of technician we really want to thank all of our Kickstarter backers all the early adopters all the pre-order customers as well as the thousands of people who emailed us and tweeted and shared posted liked or hated chameleon you know they've made the last four months of our lives a crazy sleep-deprived sleep-deprived adventure but you know I wouldn't trade it for the world and really it's just the beginning we've got so much more planned and we just wrapped up our latest update which I think we're even pushing out tomorrow so version 101 and it's got 15 new improvements that we've added so we hope everybody really likes it so was it the beginning of this week or late last week I don't remember widgets the API for that finally came out he talked a bit about that yeah absolutely so we released the widget API a little bit before be released v1 wanted to get it out there a little bit sooner to get some developer hands on it and since then we've been getting a lot of emails from a lot of people you know saying oh look at this widget you know I seen I've seen all kinds of crazy witches people have made some slicker widgets and task widgets and you know IP camera widgets it's really been nice to see the developers getting involved in making their own widgets and before long you're gonna start seeing that widget catalog grow not just from our widgets that we're going to be adding so Google+ calendar improved email and media you know those are all definitely on the docket and then after that there's going to be more but by the end by the end of that time you know we'll have the third party widgets in there and some new features that we think really change the conversation around chameleon so what features on this the past update did you come out with that it added so this next update that I pushing out tomorrow doesn't have the wipers also 101 ok 101 yeah so it's just a point of one release so it's just got a lot of improvements so making Adam custom wallpapers that's been improved now so you can you can add a wallpaper you know from your email app or anywhere where you've got the image you can add a custom wallpaper as well the quality of the wallpaper has been improved before it was compressed a little bit but now it looks a lot better we've improved the EPI so some of the developers out there gonna be happy to see that a bunch of my you know minor bug fixes there hasn't been like any serious crashes or freezing problems but there have been minor noises people have been reporting so we've been taking care of that widgets there's a issue plaguing some users where we just look your blank sometimes so we've got that one pretty much nailed down now and you know miscellaneous things also well it seems like you guys are happy in development and really looking to improve a experience as a whole which is awesome when is there any type of pipeline date for that I believe last time we talked and talked almost like a catalog where developers would put their their their widget so be more than just your widgets the widgets that no third-party developers added is that still going to be something that you will plan on implementing in the future where everybody's widgets will be and you can sorted by category or something like that yeah the sophistication of the catalog will depend on how many widgets we have but we're definitely going to be opening it up to third-party widgets making third-party widgets available to all users but we of course want to make sure that the EP is solid and that we've worked with developers to make sure that the widgets you know meet our standards I would say I mean I can't put a deadline on exactly we're definitely working hard on it right now our focus is finishing up the Google+ widgets and calendar and the other widgets that we're working on and after that's done we're gonna then move to focusing on getting the third party widgets in there and improving and bolstering our widget catalogue so I see in the last version the ability to publish in tweets and status updates from facebook was that and correct yeah so twittering and Facebook so if you have the Twitter app installer or the facebook app installed you know the Twitter and Facebook widget and chameleon now gives you a shortcut to be able to post is that your house is that functionality going to be available for people plus as well or is it just going to be a feed of your stream I'm not I'm not working on the Google+ widget myself but it's possible we're going to put it in there okay good good answer now now those of us that were or Kickstarter backers ya what I'll famous write a new shoutouts uh yeah just a little young nice little shout-out section was added I like that so that said that what hero how do I get to it yet i'll remember oh my go to the apps that's right you go to the apps and up at the top your shout outs and all your name everybody's names appear some little little circles and you can search for your name all 798 backers are on there if they made us famous and really make them famous that's been that's nice that's nice we have a question from michael nice will a smaller or tighter widget grid be launched with for the 10-inch tablets we are playing around with the idea of adjusting the the grids for the different sized tablets nothing is written in stone on that yet so we're still gauging people's feedback trying to find the down the perfect the sweet spot for the grids there um but i can't comment exactly what we're gonna do you know but we're trying to make sure that we find agree that most people are comfortable with personally my view is the more grits the better because let's say you want to you know have it some way you give more customization with more grits and you know that's how I would feel well you know we're working on redesigning some parts of the app to kind of fit a lot more with a philosophy behind million and take context which is actually a big central core feature of chameleon and bring that back to the forefront and the idea that we have actually would mean that this grid problem would no longer be an issue with this redesign that we're thinking of so we're kicking people's feedback and we're not just thinking okay well we'll just do it that way to fix it if people are having problems or they may have the ideas on how to improve things they need to go back and figure out why is it that they have this issue how can we go deeper and make sure that we fix the root cause of the problem and not just give them more grids and say there you go is fixed happy extremely interesting a grid 'less design that is not limited by that that would be cool Barry I think I didn't say grid list but I should've saying something like that yeah would add a lot more functionality yeah and that's just the beginning you know chameleon it was really hardcore hardcore development for several several months I mean we're a small team and we've been putting in intensely long hours we've got to this point now and you know from this point on it's just going to get better and better we've stayed true to the original design but since starting we've had a lot of new ideas and concepts on how to make chameleon even more useful now how big is your team the the development team there's four of us okay Wow and I'll forward you working on separate projects or or kind of tag to a little bit we yeah we tag team a little it depends on the size of the task you know so I mostly focus on the Android side I focus more on the UI stuff you've got developers working on the widgets working on the widget API you've got developers who are communicating with support and forums and making sure we get all the bugs in in fixing bugs we all fix bugs we all had features we all get together and sort of share the tasks but you know chameleon really was a monumental task and it looks simple its deceptive in its simplicity you know for an app to have so little actual you I to it but be able to do so much it's difficult to pull that off and the contexts are nice i noticed that this past week one of the updates money vindhya released candid that a a countdown was was added you know 10 seconds we're going to be switching screens based on this contacting out or something I was using that earlier I have my contact set up for home and and and for in for work and I got home and I just pulled out my tablet and within a few seconds of being on it I saw hey we're switching screens in a ring circular thing came officer captain down I like that out I mean it just just what gave a little something something that's really polished and you need you like the reveal yeah like you're never getting like that in Android yeah yeah now speaking android since you said you're in the Android development side um I know that you guys don't officially you know try to support this rom that we're all miserable that Rob you're mainly focusing on an official version so since you noted that in the changelog I have to ask have you heard certain roms not being compatible made it has that been an issue that actually hasn't been as much of an issue since we've been improving the the you know the beta at first had a lot of problems but since we've fixed a lot of the problems with the beta it just magically became more compatible with a lot more devices but we've got a ton of people you know running touch pads and we've seen people running running it on the 5-inch notes you know we've seen people running it on tablets that we've never heard of before and in the in the Google developer console where you can see people are fighting there's a lot of crazy stuff in there it's going about on the tablet well I wonder how they have that they were able to install it on the note I guess there's some really ingenious Android developers out there or they just took the APK you know i mean that's that's yeah i got that simple you just downloaded on your on your tablet then you take it take the APK and toss it on your father a couple of a couple of build profits and framework at it so yeah we're good oh no you filled up frothing there you go it's now supported yea i meant it would look pretty nice on the gas and note too though yeah right now chameleon is optimized for seven and larger displays right so that's really the whole idea it'll run on a smaller display but we haven't really dialed in everything to be optimal to give it the optimal experience all the smaller displays but we will be of course when we release the phone version it's no secret I mean we announced the phone version in kickstarter and we're really excited about it actually right now there's a bunch of people waiting in line for the iphone 5 i wanted to grab the st three we have in the office put chameleon on their photo make fun of people who are waiting in line show them chameleon show them the contacts tone the dashboards in the widgets and say yeah can your iphone do this looks PQ to do odd did you see that new ad by Samsung yeah that's good spray I love every one of those commercials are definitely I still feel we have another question here and I'm curious as well as I'm a guide it has has work email Ezra we asked this last time we chatted it has there been any headway or any thought on adding non-gmail adding up personal email accounts problem you know I don't know maybe maybe yahoo hotmail maybe my work email you know I me any other email besides you know yeah we agree the gmail widget I mean it's limited right now just because of the API that Google provides obviously we want to be able to show a lot more than that but just like the grid concerns of users email concern we want to kind of go back to the root and see if we can figure out a way to solve the root problem so I think we've come up with the way to do that I'm not going to give anything away but email should be a lot better in a future update well it is involved any back-end services that technician would have to host and then that's my I can't say much loving wife are like how we registered of the technician server and that's where your email reside and they will get into that later that's how I would probably do it if I kept tried to get around it Oh anyways so we their questions about about chameleon here um okay here's a gmail questions you can email the the widget that is being designed do you know if you'll be able to add multiple counts or at least maybe multiple widgets maybe yeah maybe I have my my personal gmail account and I have a an android authority email calendar what the third both gmail and I want you know one on each widget is that functionality going to be available or is not welcome that's all what we want to be able to do is is at least provide what Android will give you out of the box okay so that's you know that's as much as I can say on that radio so I'm gonna say yes then because I can add multiple gmail accounts to to my android devices and check them all there's oh there's only so much I'm allowed to say right i mean i wonder what we're doing is still kind of are indeed there's a lot of fun you know what and i'm picking your brain and you guys doing a great job we appreciate everything you're feeling it's a amazing Long tribe it keeps getting better and better I'll be the first to say a hundred percent I was skeptical at the beginning I first I tried to yet you remember that no yeah I tried it and I'm just like you know what I need anymore i need more it it's come a long way in a short time I'm you know i like it i do in one so we get calendar and google+ yeah i might have to turn it into my mind my default yeah you I I might don't be long it's been it's been very nice the more i've used it i think it's probably the first example of make a tablet I honestly take good advantage of what screen space you have because the the application in application out go to the next applications just kind of it makes sense for a phone because you're limited on display size for any of the tablets like and that's windows 8 and iOS and Android included that's just kind of shameful that they can't take advantage of a 10 inch screen better than they can't yeah wait is the way it is stock I mean yeah yeah and I think what we hear from a lot of people using chameleon uh it's really so different than the default launcher that just you know by nature people are going to sort of be uncomfortable with a whole new paradigm they're not used to because you look at it you're like well now you know what do I do with this but after people have had it for a day or two you know we hear back from them and they love it now you know they almost don't even want to go back to the stock launcher chameleons the sort of thing that you need to start using it we've designed it to be as useful as possible and you can't get that from it after only five minutes of playing around you know well you got it you got to customize your dashboards you know what I mean it's just what you make it it really is and if you're not going to make it useful it's not going to be useful it's not going to come out of the box and like boom and wow you write what you need to set it up and once you set up like I did with you know different home screens set up I'll but at different context yeah it's I like I do Thank You Garrett its place after after six weeks it's nice to hear yeah yeah bad guy yeah oh ok so let's let's talk about some up some devices that you may be able to run chameleon on the near future this week we had a whole bunch of devices then you just love this time of year you know it's it's fall you know the iphone coming out we're all switching to that we have yeah we have all sorts of different devices being launched and rumored to be launched announced and all sorts of good stuff so this week acer announced the a 110 it's basically biggest competitor is going to be the nexus 7 in the kindle fire it it's coming with jelly bean it's a 7-inch tablet jelly bean right out of the box in my opinion if you're going to want this if 8 gigabytes or 7 16 gigabytes isn't enough space because it has an SD card so if you need expandable storage this might be the way to go um HTC the HTC One X 5 was announced it wasn't it was initially of being rumored as being called the DI X the droid incredible X or you know people calling the phablet 5 inch phablet web I think that term but uh so thankfully it's not called the gix anymore because well there's a short matter that's kind of odd to look at on paper only you don't really want to say hey what do you have any we called other failure we shorten it and then we spell them out that's what we do because android games are horrible so did you really want to go out there and be like yeah i have the new HTC dicks you know you don't even want to do that so thankfully it's not called the VIX at least the that that's what the the rumors go as it's going to be the one x 5 because it's a 5 inch and you know there's there's no set information on where it's coming but you know it's red it looks like the droid incredible line chances are it's coming to to verizon but hopefully more on that student it's rumored to be pretty pretty amazing in John and I were actually talking offline about it uh I was disappointed to see that there was a Windows Phone announcement this week yep yeah turned it off right after that you were hoping that that was that phone going to be announced cuz he had we were both talking you know what might be the phone to get you know I they'll get HTC is historically not been the greatest with batteries they underestimate that their battery size in battery life isn't is what it should be so if you display phone scares me battery consumption was so if this if this bill does have a big battery or a battery they can support a 1080p screen then this might be a heck of a device I'm excited to see where they go with it um asus has the PadFone you know that the phone that's the phone that's a tablet that's a netbook depending on all the different accessories you get for it but even though it just came out as all things with technology hey look here's the next version of it so here in a little less than a month october 16 they're going to be announcing unveiling the PadFone to be nice if it was the offer on some carriers here in the US zip it may not go i don't know i said i would buy one but definitely definitely be cool to geek out with and play with it would be awesome I just don't know if a carrier want to carry it because I kind of knocks them out of getting to data plan well but even with the shared plans are getting an extra like 10 bucks a month per device you add to it so if you talk it out with one device all together they're probably not going to want to carry it at all so if you're into prepaid plans and you're looking for something on boost mobile that's who you're currently use the ZTE Warp is now available for 200 bucks on three boost mobile or three amazon if let's think about this this chips with vanilla stock ICS no bloatware no no carrier junk no skins you eyes whatever it's straight Android and it kind of looks like a Galaxy Nexus so it's almost like a bastardized cheap version of the galaxy nexus i mean it has a 4.3 inch qhd screen 1.4 gigahertz 768 megabytes of ram mean it's it's a it's almost like a Galaxy Nexus it really is Clark speed higher gold yellow bit clock speed little less Ram no little smaller screen which him I could never downsize format so so last week we talked about the LG optimus G and we were all excited because this is a beast of a film but the hardware on it seems amazing we don't know anything else beyond that it's coming sometime in q4 in the US don't know what carriers yet but it would be nice to see it on as many as possible like other rumors that came out about films though which we'll get to here in a minute the the Galaxy Note 2 was confirmed this past week to come out on five US carriers so we'll see the note to the 5.5 inch note to your a bit the bigger better faster version on verizon AT&T tmobile sprint US cellular and surprise surprise the verizon version will probably have a locked bootloader yeah I would have been surprised if they just had an unlock bootloader on it personally at this pod yeah it's gonna bring the network at the booth oh yeah then the network immediately like shut down stop noticing I'd love to see the ratio of break to motorola's that they've had to deal with with customer support versus bricked Nexus devices because apparently you know apparently the Nexus must be the one just tying up all their support you know nobody ever breaks a motorola know what you have to try hard to bristle so now I mean you literally have to sit out as I'm going to brick this phone today I mean with fast food and SBS and I mean I haven't done it and I didn't know anything about it and i have not bricked anything i've gotten into a little bit of a situation i lost all my soft keys but uh vanilla root and rom and scott figured it out he isn't what the hell he's doing so yeah it's you have to really set out today I'm breaking my phone you can have to mean you have to pretty damn good at doing it to do it till we've been anyways that's a rant for another show a couple other devices want to mention real quick so oppo oppo don't I say that what was it ok we'll say oppo so oppo a chinese company the fine five duh so we got the specs on that this week no mention of pricing or availability that's a 12 megapixel camera two gigs of ram a Snapdragon s4 pro processor 1.5 gigahertz quad-core 5-inch screen with 441 pixels-per-inch it's going to have a full 1080p 1920 x 1080 resolution that's that's not some of this age we live in that's not so mobile device sauce that's insane yes it has a 2500 milliamp hour battery I mean it's gonna have to add a decent sized battery but push all those pixels so it's going to come with jelly bean God willing else besides a bit that's awesome I that mean leave the phones that are being in you know announced now God those things are powerhouses and I want every single world asia is just kicking us around like they're from last year at this point um so yeah let's talk you know unfortunately Dan Charlton isn't able to join us this week he would love to talk about the next phone does not like Intel CPUs in his mobile devices and I I just don't know the architecture enough to yell bad but uh it'll get there good or if it's not not there now I can say it's not there now it's gotta feel good to two gigahertz CPU and the razor I which is the european version of the razr m here in the US everything's exactly the same on the outside software it's the same phone it's just it has a different processor and it obviously different radios but it's you know edge to edge display two thousand million power battery ice cream sandwich actually i lied the software isn't exactly the same chrome does not work on it yet chrome does not support that processor yet so so if you're watching this are listening over and you can you're gonna plan on getting this phone and chromed your latest browser or your favorite browser don't worry google said it's going to be updated soon yeah i know what soon means could be tomorrow could be a month but they're an updated to support that architecture student so yeah don't don't so excited thanks maybe you can just bring desktop Chrome over and just skin you know shrink it down just be thrown OS yeah just put chrome OS on and be done with it I wonder how much development it takes to support that new chip like the medfield wonder native development kit wouldn't be hard it would be the Intel's having to port over for the compiler that's what we know they just finished their jelly bean port that's the more the grunt work because they a development get a developer can compile it against the architectural I mean for the most part uh they're coming in a good time because I mean yeah it would have helped them to come in a little bit earlier but you look at all the multi-core like a a core processor now and uh none of the mobile operating systems really scale all that well to four cores anyway so that the other point on a single core but you know single-threaded poor performance is still more important than multi-threaded at this point so they won't suffer too bad for that and also you know you mentioned that they relate to the race but I don't think this is a microphone type late this is like they have some time to actually come in and I really hope that they increase their market share let's talk about one last rumor that you know this past week in nexus rumors this time of year is awesome you know when new Nexus phones going to coming out soon we're going to start hearing all sorts of stuff and every android fans gonna turn into basically what we made fun up about Apple fans the past week so I'll nutrient to that guy I can't wait to do it this past week we heard about you know the galaxy nexus two or maybe the galaxy premier you know it looks like it's probably gonna be called the galaxy premier instead it's actually not going to be the Galaxy Nexus to you know it rumors are rumors I can be wrong not what I'm talking about but based on what speculation and leaks and all sorts of good stuff around the internet we found out that a phone called the GT I 9260 is apparently the works um it might not be the galaxy nexus two could be called the galaxy premier it's gonna have an 8 megapixel camera you know I don't think it's a it's a nexus because it has an SD card the nexus don't do that so so we'll see what happens with that and was also really to have a cortex a9 cpu which right now is just you know vapor hardware because it actually doesn't exist or so good hey 11 your move yeah what'd I say hey nothing oh ok I don't say 11 yeah yeah good good catch a job in a trap yeah yeah so we'll see what happens with that it mean either way it's a decent phone I mean we will talk about it but I don't think it's an excess we're still waiting for that those rumors to hopefully come in the next weeks um let's move on to jellybean ICS updates here so just today we heard from Palo brian at monaco that the HTC One X jelly bean update should be coming soon sometime in October and then other other HTC devices would follow before Christmas maybe that's the one s the video who knows but uh you know information is everything is good information so if you own that device or those devices jellybean is coming soon hopefully sooner than later the sony xperia ion got ICS this week a not bad timing out for nearly here the Samsung Galaxy exhilarate that ICS as well once again not that been out for almost a year um that's good it's good hopefully we'll we'll see jellybean before Christmas on those two devices as well rooted in ramen noodles is it Anthony Feliciano says that so to varun ramen noodles thank you for this to bed that's ok though so uh so aokp the android open kang project uh got billed to this week you know their minds know if the song uh nobler to anyways um Galaxy Nexus Nexus 7 that's nexus 7 multiple Samsung devices multiple galaxy tabs I've got all sorts of support this week there's tons of new feature tons of customizations if you're into customizing all the things and you might wanna check out aokp yeah i'm currently running a AP two and it is nice i added a lot more features over the first build but second version was very nice and extremely stable from my experiences i've been running it for about four three or four days good yeah that's good um okay okay p is is one of those roms that literally packs everything in for customization they don't hold back at you know i don't think you customize that yep we're gonna try to I mean they they would they want you to customize everything and they they give you that ability on Iran the AAP a little bit in ICS time that's okay I didn't didn't hate it so yeah if you're into like I said all the things being customized and yeah give it a try check them out and it's or if you like unicorns a lot like unicorns yeah yeah their logo is a unicorn designed by the flash Oh funny a funny thing that i found today um is in when you go to all apps installed all apps there's unicorn horn as an installed app that's hidden and I didn't know that it's a live wallpaper oh is it mm-hmm talk about I was hilarious I was like you're saying floating paint it's a pink background with floating you know unicorns it's a lot like phase beam is all I thought it was hilarious mm-hmm it's funny ah so something you want to hand your phone over to somebody for though hey here's a heart hey guys yeah you can borrow my phone here's my pink unicorn wallpaper check it out yeah you know some people might like that some people are like pink unicorns all right so rude and ronon uh the new Amazon Kindle Fire HD gets routed with an old exploit remember amazon they forked ICS and customized it made you know amazon the last whatever the calling it fire stuff and what they they failed the patch and known existing bug and ICS which hey that's good for customization so it can now be rooted in you can do all the things to it that you can with root the bootloader so far remains locked but you know what does android devs they amaze us i'm sure you know i'm sure we'll have an unlocked bootloader a hack crack whatever you want to call it in the near future you know the android community never ceases to amaze me because things like this happen over at XDA a new universal root method was released and i wouldn't say it's true universal yet has been tested on every device but what it does is it's a simple batch file for for windows obviously you're on the batch file and boom it it does its thing what it does is it uses a remount timing issue for androids adb restore service and it works on jelly bean and ICS allows you to route a lot of different devices it's working on a lot of different Sony Xperia devices nexus 7 a few different LG devices a few different HTC devices a couple Samsung devices and Moore's mods and ends I wanna check it out on post the links after the show and check them out on XDA and try it on your various device to see if you can read all the things with it supposedly um but you know and that's very you know we need more easy methods like that so there isn't 72 different methods for 72 different phones I like that it makes things easier for people that want to root their devices or as well as root their friends device or family members device or you know whatever you don't have to download a separate tool to do it area research how I do on this device she does go though the one-size-fits-all I like that ok well let's go over let's wrap up with a little bit of carrier news we got Sprint's CEO they've sold 1 million LTE devices it's kind of cool to get a milestone for them to hit yeah that's not bad especially now because they just really got into LTE you know the better part of the past six months yeah and they're they're still on track for their 100 city released for the real teen at work in cities in the next couple of months that's pretty cool um 18 tlte in Seattle Portland Detroit Honolulu Pittsburgh Memphis Philly Cincinnati um basically everybody's scattering to get LTE footprint expanded um pretty cool um and then also a side thought that I had going to work when all these iphone 5s come on my network I wonder Hank I wonder how the networks are going to react because I remember winning it was the way when they came out with 3g and they had problems or claim that they had had problems but I wonder what it's going to be like with the of all the LTE usage I hope I don't know hopefully you know verizon blonde long I can keep up the 3g on verizon didn't get hit particularly bad when they got it but I didn't they don't have as many iphones as AT&T does but we do what he has i would think has majority of they wish they still do by a good margin actually but uh LTE i would because verizon was anticipating and telling us to expect five to ten megabits a second you know what that's really annoying gone remember a year ago we got almost a year ago back in you know what was in december we got our i was getting 35 for the day that I got my Nexus oh yeah I was getting that I was consistently getting getting 30s and now i'm getting not you know maybe 15 18 20 that's like HSPA speed and LTE battery life so there's a win-win there's a win-win situation the question is though are we being throttled or is it just because the network's Bob down a little bit haha that is the question that is the I would honestly think throttled where I'm it because I'm not in a gigantic metropolitan area or anything like that I don't see whether than that many people that jumped on it because and it's saturated here too I'm probably throttled I use at least six gigs per month so so real quick on the on the patent words not going to get into it because I will run out of time but you know its ongoing Microsoft one a few things against google / motorola mobility in germany there's an injunction the going to happen it basically it they they lost a patent infringement case we're saying that um the patent infringes on a microsoft patent to allow for soft input panel system and method what's that mean it means applications that receive input from various sources and methods pretty much a lot of Android app they're safe that so that they they've been lost that um sales ban on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is to remain in place here in the US judge Koh said a complaints been filed by motorola to the IPC and Apple is heavily under scrutiny right now they're investigating seven different patents we'll see what happens basically the whole lot about it the release said that Motorola Mobility filed a complaint and the investigation will be surrounding certain wireless communication devices portable music and data processing devices computers and components thereof so we don't know the list of devices but we turn before that it's you know macbook iphone 3 the whole way up to iphone 5 now and as well as you know ipod ipod touch so what I'm sure we'll find out more about that but that case it is going to be heard for a while let me read it right now the Samsung just add the iphone 5 to its list of infringing uh claims on eight different patents and that's scheduled to go and mark so we got three my three months yeah we got just March 2014 on them yeah yeah we got we got rough I typed that wrong no just just making sure cuz I like yeah we're gonna drop the banhammer two years no yeah um yeah a year and a half from now melvin morse we're gonna get them then yeah we're going to really go we'll put it in March 2013 not 2014 that that's gonna go to trial that Samsung adding the iphone to its a patent claim so lot of stuff's going on not a lot of you know real information just filing is going on here and there and it's going to be a bumpy road especially now iphone has an LTE film that comes out tomorrow because the chances are HTC is going to follow through with her suit so I'm sure next week we'll have some more to go on with that okay for you guys watching there are a couple different sources that you guys can find us youtube one you can also find us on google+ and or authority page also soundcloud you can find us on mayor stitcher radio itunes and we do have an RSS feed and also if you want to get more information about our post when you post on android 30.com if you go to the home page and scroll down to the bottom right there's a section called on air and that is all of our posts after we've done our shows for download links and also the links to the news that we talked about okay well thank you once again John for for joining us and Phil we appreciate you coming on the show and talking about the amazing work you guys are doing over there with a chameleon launcher said right now you can pick that up on the play store for ten dollars and twenty-six cents i believe it's just 10 but it was there was a weird conversions right so we wanted to be 10 everywhere but we got 10 and a little bit a little bit less here there so we went back and we fixed it all so it's nice and 10 even 10 even okay so okay ten bucks get your get your chameleon launcher aid it's it's nice i they've got a lot of amazing work to it over the past few months so good job guys alright thanks once again we have a contest for it omm contest how did i forget about the contest okay so we have a contest um android authority is giving away a international galaxy note 2 and yeah that's actually a few days so if you haven't watched the show before haven't listened before you haven't gone over to UM and your authority calm go over there and look look on the website you'll see the link for the contact will go into the go into the contest rafflecopter and you'll enter at the very bottom of the contest it will say android authority on air and you're going to put the word patent wars all one word patent wars and ask give you one additional vote one additional chance to win the galaxy note 2 which will be available soon on all US carriers or the five major US carriers all right once again thank you and you have any additional questions for us or for Phil let us know we will relay them to him thank you guys very much have a good evening thanks I get back to work