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welcome to android authority on air the original hangout show for android on google+ I'm dare cross I'm Scott Anderson this week we have returning guests dan Charlton of timett as well as fellow android enthusiasts John Franklin welcome back guys glad Evie again again except everybody that's good though so Scott what fun stuff we're gonna Ram a ramble about this week we got some big Android ecosystem information uh according to like place for downloads Play services some new stuff that Google is kind of building on right now we go over some app updates and new releases devices ICS updates and jelly bean updates a little bit patent wars or do some routing in ramen and we going over some other stuff towards the end so special stuff for at the end so yeah alright so this little party hats and I wouldn't have which was a party after this announcement I said everybody put your party hat on its do you have your party hat you have your little uh your your champagne to toast or your know your beer whatever happy birthday Android the Android SDK is now officially four years old as of sep tember 23rd earlier this week four years ago the Android SDK released one for Android more what was it now so depending on what date you want to celebrate say the Android is now officially four years oh and for something that's being four years old they had a milestone this week Google Play formerly in droid market had 25 billion downloads that's law balance so in comparison iOS when did they reach that how long it take them to reach that unix we keep hearing a google play as verbal content ah bad so celuyu no comparison here so I less it took them 1334 days which is just under three years and eight months to get 25 billion that's 1334 android it took 1435 days or three years and 11 months so just about pretty much longer to just about three months apart here you know I mean that's that's not bad um and because google is amazing they are celebrating this week by offering 25-cent apps hobo jack some 25 movies muff own 25 banned books 25 albums that change the world and so forth basically they're 25 and all the things and you should check it out it's it's nice to get some cheap contents and achieve apps that generally cost a whole lot of money like office suites are normally 15 bucks running yet you know quarter that's oh yeah it was a steal you have to check it out definitely it's good i have to admit I've games you like I saw me to cut the rope was on there you know take a paper camera was one I use that a lot actually yeah yeah old facebook mmm and also you guys have a credit lying around from that nexus 7 purchase uh now enter it's a very good way to use your additional small amounts oh yeah and every sense left at ninety-seven cents long ago leave us a message yep there you go yeah you can easier i mean what one else you gotta find a 25-cent hapless to do uh you know another ten cent deal but that was ten billion downloads last year or so film people see ten for a while but he had 25 cents go ahead and spend your last few remaining nickels and dimes on here with your credit so speak at Google Play google play yet yesterday started to roll out something called google play services and this actually brought you pretty awesome isn't it it's a it's a nice game changer in my opinion it was showcased at i/o a few months ago and it was yeah it's not soft for developers um right now it's an automatic roll out if you haven't noticed yet chances are you may even have the app installed on your phone or your tablet you didn't even install it's already there but for whatever reason you know if you didn't have it you can go to the Play Store and search for google play services and installed if you didn't get it already so now so if this thing is such a badass no you know what does it do well doesn't it does three main things oh right now in version one it does Oh auth 2 point 0 google+ sign-in and google+ +1 button yeah those are three little features in the beginning and those are kind of minor to the the whole mindset of what this is going to do so we all know that you know carriers and OEMs are the big Debbie down when it comes to pushing out Android updates and in New api's come out for Android that offer such and such feature allowing access to the latest and greatest people product api's and takes forever for people to get those so what if they bundled those api's and service and it that service didn't need to rely on updates coming from you know your carrier or in your OEM if they came directly from google so this will allow you know like i said allow access to the new product api's instantly basically i was in a couple days everybody will have them um now a little bit about OAuth so Oh offer those either don't know it's it's a temptation right so when an app needs to access your your private data in your google account this new tool will allow that application to securely access your account information without requiring you to enter your account information in plus you know we all have super secrets secure passwords right you are oh you know very conscious about security so who wants to enter a really strong letters and numbers you know password all the time just when you install new back so this is great this is a great for security and it's great for users to know that you know that they they don't have to worry about affecting their privacy or security online um so the next version is rumored to add even more core services you know more than just Google+ integration and you know more than OAuth eventually more products will probably be taught into this but right now it's you know like i said no authentication applications will be able to access your you know your plus one maybe you'll be able +1 something in an app and the app itself will be able to have a Google+ sign-in I'd be interested in seeing an app that has all the plus ins but categorized I think that'd be very cool um to do I mean it would show all the different types of things that people that you're following and with their movies books websites websites related to doing certain things how you be pretty cool so I'm looking forward to this yeah it's nice having just just in the Play Store what people recommended every single almost every app that I go to download has got somebody from my circles they recommended it yeah it's nice to see more of it though yeah okay so let's move on to apps a new app that came up today is one baahubal our a section of Google as we kind of figured out it's called field trip basically it gives you location-based nations of locations that may or may not pertain to you basically you can based on their location or recommend certain things and you can select everything that you want to be alerted about you get your notifications off my personal view is Google Maps works better in field trip that it does in the Google Maps app I don't know why but it does and I don't think it's at I mean I only played around with a field trip for a little bit so or I don't think it's that much faster you don't good here I give it credit I tried it for a little while haven't driven around but I've seen some people that are so gotta say lived in Louisville and he was running through town and eat while he enabled it where the voice actions would announce pop up the cars while he was going down town and it actually gave him notifications of a couple of venues that they had and they had a concerts in the area and gave a little link where you can go to Psalm cake and find more informations pretty cool the one thing that upsets me and it's kind of shame on google for not sticking to the holo theme and I mean that I mean if you are building op it's a beautifully designed app now it is a beautifully designed app but the thing is that does not promote what if they're trying to teach the developers into developing as a standard and if you're trying to make a standard you need to do it yourself I agree with that idea but also I saw some of those transitions and i use it for a few minutes in and I was like a little kid in candy store grinning you know I thought so that the animation was pretty cool but what's up you know functionality you know are you I I mean user interface aside here let's talk about replicating existing services so field trip some right it automatically provides you information when you're in an area now doesn't that sound familiar don't we already have an application to kind of provide you information when you're in an area now Google now Google now tells me hey Derek you want to check into this restaurant in this bar so you know yeah it's already it's already telling me that it's already knows my little my G patients are you in here now field trip will say did you know that this bar was built in 1817 in its bulova law historic landmark okay well that's cool by only two apps doing the same thing as 2 apps getting you take it sir it's actually three apps cuz the thing that's telling you to check in is latitude then there's places another sort of division of a nap cuz both latitude and that are parts of males the way now no plus about field trip hey about schemer because I can pull ups seamer and hitch and open it up and when you get mighty quick and say look and I could type your bar or food it'll be like Oh your friend wants to go to this restaurant wants to go to this bar bill de Beauvoir so why why did I mean why don't have so many apps to do the same damn thing I understand that you know they each one does something a little bit different but they have both features overlap in so many different places thank ya there's a lot of things they could afford to converge think it is a good test app for growl feel or at the mine that's the thing that's the I think that's the future of phone UI in general is contextual stuff how long is it going to be before Google now is powerful enough and has enough of an API to become your home screen yeah and I think that right now since Google now doesn't really have a whole bunch of settings / notification that it gives you once this once they figure out what field trip if it works well and how to implement it will then they can add deeper integration on that specific notification for google now so I guess we might see another app by a smaller team of people that dives into specific features maybe movies or something like that that will then eventually add more functionality google though well you know i don't know about you but my battery life is one of my biggest pet peeves with my phone I don't know I have the same phone movers have the same type so I rochas Snapdragon s4 in it and gets great battery life well well you know what being that's I'm gonna give you a high five yeah me you're also on a carrier that doesn't force you to sit you know through three months of a Google Experience device stared anybody else carrier that allows going to get relatively fast speeds without having to maintain two simultaneous connections to two different network architectures those pretty nice advantage saying here that we have multiple apps running you doing geolocation services and automatic data services and that's definitely going to cost a little bit of battery life I'd rather have it bundled into you know one half instead of for absolute lapping services in my opinion eventually is going to be done on the hardware level okay so Colin Tom's been preaching it so another app that was updated I'm not a new app but one that we has grown near and dear to our hearts as YouTube it got a whole new UI refresh some people like it some people don't like it what are you guys is initial opinions together guys like it you guys not like it personally I dude how like it but it's a subjective I'm in the comments section and they're related physical I'd like to go the Plus app does he like it John because it reminds you google plus no no it's not because it reminds me of google plus i think google plus is a well-designed app it kind of has that card you I I think that's the where they're taking the UI I may not that swipeable tabs on also hollow compliant and either but uh I personally I jumped as a comment it's nice to just scroll through a list rather than swiping all over the place but the I guess the other good thing is they say it brings that you I down to with a 40 and above so yeah I mean I that's another good thing that came so a lot of people aren't on Ice Cream Sandwich it so I don't like it yet because you know i don't like a whole lot of change in my apps and less you know it's as drastic change its gonna it blows me away right now like swiping from left to right to see you know comments related videos you know whatever scrolling down is great too but i prefer swiping because i thought that was easier that's just me I'm you know ask me in a month I'll be like this is the best thing ever but from but right now right now I don't like it the one thing i don't like about it is the fact that you don't look it just you know likes and dislikes when you go to video you mean you had to click the you down type yeah I so let's move on to some devices um we recently i think it was like four days ago released in iphone 5 drop tests versus the samsung galaxy s3 um it's got a lot of views and we just like reading one well I'll tell you what last last week whenever we were doing this video I got some insider information during the show last week about which 11 and I was not surprised because you know the 4s versus the galaxy s3 it was never one even a contest and won and this time around it wasn't even a contest again but it was the other one winning you know like I was amazed um it's a solid device I want my next device to be that solid you want yours your joint your next device to have paint that'll chip and show a different color i got i have that one my incredible to did to say i think it shipped off real nice hey there's a lil silent along yeah but the thing is I'd rather a stick personally just because you know you scratch plastic when you get under it Oh plastic events the same color so you want a phone with scratch it or you don't want to film scratches you'd rather have all the smashed face that you can't use no no i'd rather not drop my phone yeah i would rather not drop my phone too but if i had to drop my phone what do i want a phone it's scratched what i want to phone with a broken face i'm going to choose a scratch every time although I you guys I mean yeah oh yeah if you take it over that but it's hard to predict that I mean even in a drop test it's on cuz you could drop a phone five times and it will land differently every single time it's hard to say oh no you saw it will shatter to a million little pieces Oh kind of like if you looked at the drop test iphone fell on its corner almost every single time so and you know it maybe it's prone to maybe that's where the weight is distributed but you can't guarantee it's gonna happen I also think I see through the galaxy s3 out of it out of his hand the one time instead of actually dropping it but I'm not blaming him when your watch hours later listing later Darcy I'm just saying that uh it it you definitely dropped it harder than you did the iphone but i couldn't do any better I mean it's really hard to hit the same amount of pressure and drop to anything that's what all that all approve does a whole bunch of money was wasted and and it has like five million views or something right now so so go watch it if you haven't they did to help a job it's got like about actually almost eight out good that I guess the main thing to take out of it as it is more durable than the 4s was in that area not that it took a lot to be like that but it does hold up to the back hasn't made out of regular glass Gorilla Glass know the front of it was grilling us the back was just playing on a glass worse exactly why do you think it broke so easily it's just I just don't those videos are just great because it actually gives a real-life situation something that actually happens and I mean he dropped it from his pocket he dropped it from you know like pulling it up to his ear he dropped from his ear and then you know no one actually stands there holds it three feet out from their body and says okay let's drop this phone you know so then they did real world drops which everybody and let's uh here you know certain people that have you know Bionic spider-man fingers that can hold onto your phone you know yeah we dropped your phone right mmm what's their tests against a nokia device yeah in all though texas instruments uh-oh map not really gonna be investing a whole bunch of money in 20 map yeah it's kind of surprising there I mean they haven't been entirely clear on it but they're pretty much closing down the whole map shop you know that clear if the omap five is going to happen or not um which is a little disappointing because it's supposed to be really really compelling offering in the market so it's it's kind of disappointing they're pretty much rolling that up but there hasn't been a lot of details about how quickly they're shutting it down the promising continued support for existing devices which includes the Galaxy Nexus includes all of the Kindles it includes all the nooks includes a lot of motorola's includes a lot of ties so yeah and it is for those but really unclear about what's going to happen after that after that yeah and I it seemed like they wanted to do more integrated things like with machinery and cars and things like that which i can understand but I in this booming mobile market I don't understand it right now and I just can the other warm I mean they they're facing harder and harder competition NVIDIA has really exploded onto the scene in a big way and Qualcomm is continuing to just eat up the marketplace especially in the US and T I was never big outside of the US in the first place so motorola was one of their biggest customers and they're getting there well i got multiple year contract with intel at least yeah well i mean they're they're committed to making some devices with in town but even still nobody can sell a chip in the united states that's going to go into a device that can't support LTE and right now qualcomm is the only player in that game to your Chanel's man starting abdel just analog radio they can do the same things that's what the iphone is using but that's just now hitting the market so nobody heard canal de stella chip in America for the last six months other than Walt I'm happy and don't forget about the the Intel medfield the processor you not look around where is it in America it's going to the UK it's coming here with LTE house that was reported this week that's something we're going to talk about little bit later yes reported is coming months and months away the last six months there's been no alternative but Qualcomm not just it just makes me when Samsung is you mr. Lee wasn't alone chips in their products that they're selling in the US it makes me feel a little bit sad to see TI go out right now because the automat five was so promising you mean like better than samsung exynos 5250 promise again it I've been a big time because they put a lot of rd in the thing because it was probably the first example of a Texas Instruments processor that they went one hundred percent in far as the graphics processor and everything will they used to use older GPUs and kind of overclock them but it's cut out a nostalgia too because the first android phone HTC g1 had a nomad process you can original droid had a nomad processor and filling it they're capable was just kind of sad to see if you know what do you want how to Qualcomm processor are you sure yes research uh I know the wrong once before do it later yeah unless t i started making MSM processors and not home at processors and I didn't and I shouldn't even said anything because you're the you're the cpu god you know everything about itís yeah that's a second time ever been wrong it's fine so this week we also got some leaked pictures of the HTC One X plus my personal view is we need to stop doing buttons our buttons soft touch buttons buttons but Lisa didn't do a legacy Menu key like Samsung did agree agree no but they're doing the same sort of options yeah yeah after Corey Knebel in settings it's just developers need to get on board yeah i mean that's that's something where HTC has really taken the teeth I mean I get why you're staying the on-screen buttons I like having capacitive buttons on my phone I honestly do i get my HTC continues to put them there and and they've really taken the teeth on that but it's really not their fault that somebody apps to look like crap in that setting they don't make those apps it's facebook's fault it's Twitter's fault its major companies that are just too lazy to update my biggest gripe about them is they're not customizable I can flash a rom and have as many button as as I want in whichever order I want Scott everybody flashes wrong yeah well yeah we got those buns mr. argument you shouldn't have to root if you want to show off the quality of the platform you should be able to have it bone stock and showed off and and I kind of liked the back home recent I haven't changed it honestly in a while I I used to down like wood okay this recent what does it do I use it all the time now yeah I mean I I customize the customize the functionality my buttons but I customize the way that they looked all the time I like I like the ability to do that I can't only I do get some nail polish or something and do that to my my hardware buttons fair enough oh so uh wait Scott it's not tell me about ruining it's this new thing right no no dan we do root and ramen already put Scott on schedule to talk about this please I'm you know I'm on the Dinosaur the new bloods moving in now all right so let's talk about some remote wiping ability Scott oh yeah I saw this um I don't know a whole bunch about it so I knew that it was possible with a sgs3 if you got a malicious link that you could potentially wipe the person or get your phone wipes is that correct yes a quick and dirty version is some phones have the ability you type a super secret phone number to your phone you know it with you know asterisks and pound and then numbers and when it factory resets your device it gets for support purposes really and some TouchWiz phones as well as some HTC phones it was found initially on the galaxy s3 this week too if you went to a website to have this link embedded on it or and you clicked on the link and the native dialer would come up and try to call that link because that's that's how he enjoyed works well if the if your phone was one of the phones that could launch a link to a number and factory reset your device well a noob's could have happened so so some people checked it out a couple devices were found to be susceptible to that yeah s3 actually um and over the air update had actually patched that but the AT&T galaxy s3 the galaxy s advance as well as the galaxy s2 I believe the HTC Desire I could be wrong on that but now at least one HTC phone was found to be susceptible as well and um hopefully you know the other devices are being addressed but right now you know the big guy the galaxy s3 did you know make sure you have your on a custom rom or your or your running the latest firmware over they are updating and you'll be fine I did say they do have an application on the market now that the developer put out to you can stop that a lot with a number from that's like two dollars and sixty-seven cents I'm sure he's about to make some bank on that thing well anyway another way to do it is don't use the stock Android Browser use chrome and I think it really the best way to do it is don't follow strange links that you don't know what are well yeah so basically general email rules apply great like the bottom line answer in this is when somebody says they're from Nigeria and you 15 million dollars don't follow the link or or if they have a magical way to make money on craigslist alright so let's let's get into the fun stuff at least I think it's the fun stuff it's this it's the fall every week hopefully fingers crossed confidence hi we're gonna have a nexus rumors a section and this week we're going to start off with a whole bunch of fun stuff so today actually we got some reports from DigiTimes that we're going to have a $99 nexus 7 by the end of the year as well as a 199 version so you know now and that's all we don't know anything else but you know then you know every talking head including ourselves you know starts to figure out well you know how can we get down to that ninety nine dollars it is it going to be the mac same hardware if so is it going to be ad supported to get down to that price they're going to be a loss leader is google going to know cut the cut the fifty dollar product costs on it then is a loss and make it up by you know app sales because there you know in the Google Play content is making a lot of money now or is there going to be carrier subsidized because remember that there's a 3g variant rumor two so is it going to be in the ninety nine dollar version going to be the carrier to your contract edition that's why it's 100 bucks because you're going to pay a monthly data fee so there's a lot of things that this could also not even happen to but if it does you know how I didn't get down to that hundred bucks you know or is the current version Wi-Fi version going to be bumped down to ninety nine dollars for whatever reason you know somebody got a good deal somewhere in hardware and and the 199 version is going to be the new the new version that comes out in six months you know I'm sorry that comes out for Christmas or something which puts the puts the nexus 7 it's six months too old then so yeah we we could see something the rumor could be true well what do you guys think on that I don't see them stepping up the hardware at the same price point in the in that's faster time yeah do a like an upgraded water I see the 99 now I one being possible because there's a lot of relatively highly powered and relatively inexpensive chips about to hit the market so I think that they can drive down the price it won't be in the same performance category as the nexus 7 right i mean that's got a quad core processor it's a pretty powerful machine I think it'll probably be a much lower clock dual core or even a high-class single core processor but I think I mean I think that they can hit that price point and so you know be at least right around breaking even oh yeah remember right now that the building materials was sitting at 152 dollars I think yeah yeah it's a guest in the obviously one yeah when you factor in marketing and later everything else they're probably right around break even on the Nexus 7 yeah so al-amin make a profit on the telly time will tell and you know is anything it's a device is gonna be six months old it's time to update so who knows maybe that maybe the new Nexus 7 will be part of their upcoming five rumored Nexus devices yeah I'll me that there's also there's all sorts of leeway here but another rumor we can talk about is the LG optimus Nexus which is based on or supposed to be SPECT off of the optimus G a Spanish Website translated to using google translate this week said that someone close to Vodafone says that the LG Nexus will be based off of something similar to the Optimus G you'll have a 4.7 inch screen and it'll offer extremely high screen qualities and detail and detail extremely high such as apples Retina Display so it could be in comparison to that so that's nice in that kind of goes off of other devices that we've seen up in a rumored you know so far to have what 440 448 you know pixel density on a 1080p screen so yeah you know apples retina displays only 326 I believe so that's it yeah is that a Genesis this is the same 4.7 inch I think it's 1280 by 768 or something that LG's using for the optimus G that's at like four hundred and twenty six ish one second so we don't know what's going to happen right there right to have that rumor out there mean that but that's a it's an i SPECT phone oh yeah i mean that's have the the s4 pro the new Adreno 320 GPU with the quad-core Krait processor that's gonna be a beast in not any other things I'd like that the LCD displays it 720p look a lot better than like the LEDs right now just because of non pentile like them yeah 1x display all the other ones I mean they're just beautiful dis probably it's a beautiful display but maybe if you go compared that you know even a Galaxy Nexus or even as three yeah I was so you're not depleting of whether or not a high-resolution screen would be good but if you use it all the time and it's with you all the time why not have you know a really high resolution screen battery life cannot be concerned by it's gonna take more juice to push all those pixels so you have battery is definitely gonna be sorry but as tech gets better and you know our conception will go down and eventually batteries will slowly like a slug get better um but you know what oh in four different geolocation services on top of that did you know yeah they just think if we have a lunatics territory just like communication devices just think if we had a limited battery just think of the possibilities that we could do with yes yes just think if it we lived in a world where there were about it energy how much more we could do it without having to worry about things like oil or coal over its nose every hour you get on that you invent perpetual motion and haha next week next week you can be can we could talk live on the chip about patent troll all the energy companies so uh Samsung Galaxy Nexus to had some fun stuff this week I so flashback to the nexus s it was leaked via images on on picasa and the nexus s 4g images leaked I'm sorry images from a camera camera shots and the Galaxy Nexus known google+ and picasa images of the nexus 7 images so this week three images appeared on picasa with exif image data stating that it was the the GT I 92 60 and that is the rumor device that could be the galaxy nexus two is it we don't know does that device exists probably but is it the next Nexus from Samsung who knows all we know is that images most likely appeared they the exif data could have been faked but I'm kind of sensing a pattern here since every Nexus device has shown up on picasa yeah there there are a lot of interesting patterns with all of these Nexus device rumors actually it was on the house luggage but these had some interesting ones there's there's a lot of really interesting stuff coiling around these this army of necks I yes so I i mean i remember of the nexus 7 images were leaked on google+ and and picasa as well since is pretty much the same thing for images you know those images disappeared later that day you know after everybody blew up saying look these are pictures taken with a nexus 7 so if these images disappear um other pretty much guessed and then confirm themselves that then no this is that uh that is true but who knows up history may not repeat itself we don't know and last but not least this week we had rumors and information about the HTC nexus 5 i'm not going to say that word I hate that word it is a smartphone it is a mobile device as a mobile computer it is not any hybrid word is a phone well when is three is four point eight inch screen what's the yeah what's like two inches of a difference I mean how does that quiz into that hybrid category all of a sudden well like so so yes so this this hybrid category of the word that shall not be named um usually working for more than five inch device in this life but it the droid incredible X or the idea HTC dicks but the vix I took the bus gonna be called hahaha call that down here for that reason if they're bringing the wood to market the good doesn't good slogan let's be on a poster somewhere and what that device is rumored to be the device that the Nexus 5 is going to be based off of its going to be a 5-inch 1080p display Snapdragon s4 pro quad-core twenty five hundred million power battery possibly up to 64gb of storage LTE and the nexus 5 i like that name because it it clearly you know plays on the nexus center all right what's that i said i don't think that's what it plays on i think that it's interesting that there rumor is a nexus 5 from HTC built off the droid incredible acts because the next one from a sea was supposed to go to verizon and didn't because i realized google and verizon couldn't gretel couldn't get it together use that which we can see again with ya the next challenge the nexus one was a precursor to a lot of great device destroy it incredible was the spin off of that for verizon the desire kind of came out of that fold the evo kind of came out of that fold yes both of those are the Earl yeah those are all in riveted the same i started edge to you in a nutshell let me do a Nexus device and have a droid incredible as the verizon spin-off since clearly google and verizon aren't going to be happy together again I think that makes a lot of sense and I think that that kind of lends credence to the rumor plus the number five is not so much a play on seven but there was the nexus one second device was the s third was the Galaxy Nexus fourth was the seven that'd be the fifth Nexus device they need nothing they honestly need a device like this for a nexus because yes the nexus s and the Galaxy Nexus don't get me wrong they are honestly great devices but there was almost if you look at the nexus one HTC did put everything in that phone yeah I mean that phone the very first with an AMOLED display the first with the one gigahertz cross they pushed the limits on that and the Galaxy Nexus and s we're kind of on par with whatever samsung had that here in some cases under par they need somebody that's hungry to make an essence ya know I just want to take it to the next level and I think you know give give one of the other people a shot give it the HTC or LG motorola because they'll they'll put something out there to get their name and get their reputation back up yeah Samsung has nothing to lose they have nothing to gain by out doing their own devices with the Nexus the others kind of do right so let's talk about some jellybeans in an Ice Cream Sandwich updates ok well the transformer prime of the tf201 jelly bean update is rolling out now on this takes away flash support takes away Wi-Fi directs the direct support adds all the other jellybean goodness but how is that functionality but you're getting jelly bean you know sister walk faster update button if you if your system update button is not worn out right now he's gonna wrong they're mashing that button and on for the transformer pad infinity they delayed it for us and canada it should be available early next week so if you guys got those um check into that and we also do have the android binaries were updated um this is really nice p for developers the galaxy nexus for verizon specifically was released other up other devices were updated but they're all available at the next download site so if you want to flash back to stock you can flash those also the nexus to the nexus 7 get updated to no no dude didn't it no the nexus 7 did not get updated we got buying new binaries though yeah it's on talking about the libraries for updated but that means that like you go and download ones their current what's on the device yeah but so the binaries dig it updated and newer than what they were yesterday but they aren't newer than what's on the device and Jamie she said that the latest binaries should add precision touchscreen firmware so all of you that are having no III person haven't seen if a lot of people complain about touchscreen issues after you use the device for a while the touch screen starts to suck so I'm guessing that that these new binaries for touchscreen and based off what he says should fix that problem but uh if you're not rooted you're not going to know but you're not gonna test it right now you have a custom wrong you're wrong developer has to download the latest binaries slap them into the rom and you know compile it it over to you um and over the air update it comes out in the future for the nexus 7 will probably have those in there but the average Joe or the average god that doesn't reap their devices won't uh won't be able to so the sgs3 the galaxy s3 it got the international version they're going to soak test of jelly bean some screenshots and devices getting jelly bean specifically in Poland the Atrix 2 is getting an ICS soak test so I should be coming up soon um you know update updates are sometimes funny because what happens is is is it you know people expect they're gonna get them soon back sooner than later and wait and it and they just keep mashing that I update but honey and and they don't get them but let's talk about some updates at that people do get um so the ICS uh updates from Motorola were announced and the Bionic a lot of people actually earlier this week we're talking about it yeah Bionic and they said by quarter three it was going to have ice yes well in quarter three is done and you know I just don't have ice yes but Motorola came out remember Motorola's now Google came out and said hey Bionic owners we're sorry that your phone has been the redheaded stepchild of the bunch um we're we're going to do you write eventually and you should have ICS by sometime in court for so it's really really hard this time I mean as I was quarter four starts wasn't quarterly quota for started a cup a day no wait no money i'm a bit fun day yeah goober October yeah so it gives me a little bit more faith because peanut Sony was over Google Plus in a lot of areas and everything he's been pretty interactive with the people about it so that's a good thing to see anyway you know is it just comes straight out and say you know we look we know you've got a raw deal with this we're going to try to make it right yeah that's great they're going to do that you know and remember if your phone doesn't get get enough if your motorola phone does get an update you need a hundred dollar credit to get a new one yes so but do we have any other updates uh for jelly bean and ICS this week Scott nope you still can't get it okay I'd say um samsung also released there around the devices will go ahead put the link on the on when we post the show so you can check out and see if your your device is listed there if it is going to be getting jelly bean or not so patent wars then I defer to you because you are you're you know besides our CPU expert you're also our legal expert so so what I guess what Samsung files customer do not take my words as legal device simply Samsung filed motions uh I guess uh misconduct or something this past week yeah they base held a motion to basically giving the judge the option of either setting aside the jury's verdict and re ruling the case in Samsung's pay her or route to setting aside the jury's verdict and sending it back for a new trial on in the filing they sighted over 100 different instances of misconduct things along the lines of Apple being given the opportunity to cross-examine this deposition hence am so not that's that's kind of a constitutional amendment that you're supposed to be allowed to cross-examine witnesses go oh yeah but there's that whole law thing in the way of that isn't that a lot to do with time allocation though it did some of it was and that was another one of their points is that there's a time allocation but Samsung's plan on that is you know what it takes a long time to explain some of these things and 24 hours each two percent of these arguments is just not realistic and I mean they're right it's there's a lot of detail and what these patents are about in 48 hours of depositions just is not enough to get into that and um I mean there were a lot of rulings that were very inconsistent there were times when the judge barred samsung from presenting certain evidence and then Apple presented that evidence anyway which is fine but that's supposed to open the door for samsung to then use whatever argument was originally barred and she'd prevented Samsung from doing that so there were a lot of legal issues and then there's a big chunk of redacted parts of the claim that are more or less about jury misconduct and Samsung has moved to suppress it and suppress continuing documentation on that front in an effort to protect jury members from public reprisal but basically they're saying that the jury did not do their job in a lot of different ways based on some of the other appendices and things that they're attaching to it they're pointing out the fact that part of the jury instructions was to specifically not like rely on personal experiences or your personal feelings about patents or your personal understanding of patent law and yet to have repress outlet that he can find the jury foreman has been telling the story of how the entire decision hinged on his personal experiences with Padma and owning patents so I mean they pretty obviously did not follow the rules that they were giving so yeah well Apple is filing to add on another three quarters of a billion dollars to the verdict Samson's basically saying this product was ridiculous one of their other claims in there is that no reasonable jury possibly could have found sent apples utility patents to be valid or design patents excuse me they also questioned the utility patents but they flat out said no reasonable jury could have found these valid and they're right I agree on that especially some of them in like the prior art that went really high art right there is another misconduct problem the jury members a flat out said they just didn't bother considering well this all kind of go with the trial was about and they just didn't bother considering whether or not patents reveled in the first place and skip them right on to whether or not they're infringing so yeah you might be infringing on this patent but if it's not valid then what does it matter I just like how much the cherry statements have shot their own verdict in the foot because they have opened the door wide open for its on appeal had they been quiet it probably would have stood like it was is the bad guy but the jury just basically gave Samsung an appeal on a silver platter oh yeah I mean that you have edit guys he'll this is before even it gets to an appeal this is basically Samsung saying this trial was so horrifically bad that we don't want to waste the Court's time with an appeal we need to just go back to square one and start all over be interesting to see Lou yeah I mean it's the motion is in front of judge Koh so as being a problem because she's not likely to endorse a motion that basically says she wildly mismanaged the case but it's a very strong motion so it's going to be hard for her to kind of weasel her way out it now let's talk about rooting in ramen and in this week in only a segment that I cover but root and ramen noodles this week will be covered by Scott since I created a monster about a month ago the guy's flashing different roms every week test them all out he's flashing kernels he's flashing recoveries he's customizing to where he breaks his soft keys and has to be factory images I mean this guy's a monster so Scott what we got rooting around in this week uh yeah do flash ever really yourself um but yeah I mean it's it's nice um okay p jelly bean version 3 added some functionality and a lot of bugs are gone there was some notable features that we have are in the drop-down notification when you get a text you can quick reply to it which is really nice um also some extra calculator features are also vibrate and ring well you can put in the name rate as an average target which is nice and the biggest implementation I think are adding with the quick reply is the stopwatch and countdown in the clock app so instead of going and changing like a setting on the app um you switch from side to side and you go to a stopwatch countdown and a alarm timer now I don't really stop watching countdown is from sizemode a actually released it and then aokp is using that that code in their wrong so steep cm10 as that as well they are the ones that actually put that out they release the app on the market though and you know open source it did it they put it on the Play Store so it's anybody can uh and then uh Derek you're running cm10 right all right yeah I'm run cm10 and you know what Oh y'all bad for a little bit what what version was bugging and whatever you want out so well CCM yummy is its Knightley's right so they're breaking something and fixing something every day because I mean that's what night bazaar it's bleeding edge alert they're constantly adding new code and everything um so wow this is a great seal oh so uh it's too so sit asiento those are you watching a wondering why we are laughing Google Docs when you're doing a show of one person talking and other people typing can get very distracting and very humorous because people had things that shouldn't be set we use the they hang out google doc plug in and have a dock with our show notes our agenda stuff like that we're really professionally didn't know we did that and sometimes we're really unprofessional and edit what someone's supposed to say even you know they put some things in there and I yeah it leads to fun okay so um to see another nightly cm10 yeah nightly is yadda yadda yadda i installed the m1 want to came out two weeks ago roughly something like that the the milestone the monthly bills whatever you know it's cm10 is great i love it you know tons of customers a eventually it'll be extremely stable extremely fast and then in my opinion will be the best rom to run right now I know it's still growing it's still in a nightly state the m1 you know I'm happy I don't have that doc opened anymore i minimized it clear see you guys laugh so um 10 was was uh was laggy it was very laggy and I ran for two days and I couldn't handle anymore now I'm back to bugless beast uh I had some insider information from my my wrong groupie she told me that cm10 lag was fixed she had heard so i installed the latest nightly yesterday and lo and behold it was fixed there was no lag it's nice and fast and i decided i was going to stick with it until i realized that my battery life was absolutely horrible and a toss it five o'clock today I'd ten percent battery left with only 50 minutes of screen on time in 15 hours of all yes owner yet it's the thick I'm not this is the impossible I mean III love what the developers do or doing what they're doing and like I said this is eventually going to be the best rom there is in my opinion but right now it's it's a nightly build that's that's happened why'd you get to that point it's not really daily driver usable if it's not metal better Lawson so no I said no without looking into it Ivan what I've had a chance to look at you know wakelocks or anything to figure out what it is but I'm pretty sure my every time I phone goes to sleep I'm pretty sure the Wi-Fi is cycling because I see it connect to 4g and Wi-Fi constantly I see those cycle constantly every time i unlock my phone so that that's just a guess without looking into it i'm going to geek out with it maybe later after the show tomorrow at some point try to figure out what exactly is causing that just because i want to know but uh you know chances are in a day or two that a night we could fix that you know and that's the beauty of nightlies you might run something that for a day or two but it's going to be great in two days you know until the next thing is you know but let's see it would see Emma me not they've added everything that I can think of that was in cm9 he got the map navigation um at the bottom about the buttons you can customize the notification drawer is completely customizable again lock screen widgets lock screen sliders so I mean the notification LED which is very nice you have custom LED notification of colors yeah I mean I like it I love it no it's I just wish my battery you know I can do more with my phone and have it last an entire day but that would get fixed sure you know you know by the time next week who knows it could be fixed but if I yeah that's not that's been my experience but Scott said century new to around the block to routing and ramen noodles um I want you to I want you to do me a favor I want you to try something completely different cuz you've been sticking pretty close to a OSP based wrongs um you know bit of vanilla looking wrong yeah cm10 cna bugless beast aokp want you to try mi UI for me some over the next week doing the android run it for a day see if you like it or not i just thought you know I mean the decks that rom is still near and dear to my heart because I was the first run that I love to do all sorts of Android hackery on that's where I met Dan but uh I I like em on us yeah I want you to try then let me know what you think um just uh and then way we will do a jellybean miui show them your future that should be interesting yeah all right so uh real quick to wrap up here if it's not on the Android BBQ oh yeah that's a shame I'm going to be at the big Android BBQ a lot of people are going to be at the big Android BBQ John's gonna be at the big Android BBQ gonna be there's gonna be a lot of learning a lot of vendors giving out free stuff a lot of fun you know maybe I don't drink beer maybe another person will that would be so awesome okay I'm sure somebody will ya uh could be a good time anyways my point is in celebration of the 25 billion play downloads and Google you know 20 iving all things the guys over the big Android BBQ decide to 25 all the things as well and they're either giving a twenty-five percent off the ticket prices right now so if you if you're on the fence of going you want to say a little bit of money that's a good time to do that and if you're into collecting things and want to collect stuff it will eventually be on Pawn Stars and then you know down the road the Android collectibles the series 3 is you know I came and say it's now available it was available this week if you're new collecting things not really so much for you after all you can still find him its doors and I'm sure in the near future we'll have another run by triple the price yeah well you know they might they said they're gonna have more stock eventually but right now they're all sold out they were eight bucks apiece 16 in a whole block or box you can buy them individually if you want it sold out at 11am in the first 10 minutes um then a little bit later they had a second batch sell out and then it 11pm they had the next run vailable nuh and that sold out as well very very quickly so yeah I ordered some I I can't wait to get mine here a couple days I maybe we'll do an unboxing you know video showing them all off your nose but yeah so if you didn't get them you want them you know in the near future you'll be able buy them amazon other places well we'll have them most likely for a lot more money if you want quicker um our galaxy note 2 contest is now officially over a winner if it wasn't draw already during the show will be drawn very very shortly and everyone will be notified via the website so good luck to everybody that entered the contest i hope i can I can't help you all win really giving away one but you know what I hope you all when I do I do so um for you guys watching um the places you guys can watch us are obviously YouTube right now um you can also watch us on our Google+ page and or authority you can listen to us on soundcloud stitcher radio and itunes and we do have an RSS feed for our show and if you want to go to the 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