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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross and I'm Scott Anderson this week we're joined with returning guest dan Charlton of team it Colonels who hasn't developed a colonel in a while I don't know if I'm going to have to change my intro here soon for him he's waiting for all the Intel processor SEO and at the end fellow android enthusiast Johnny Frank Joe Johnson Franklin welcome back welcome back so if everybody all right so Scott what are we going to talk about this this week although we got a lot of Android updates this week this week in general has been a lot of big news Android ecosystem stuff um we are gonna be talking about some device updates coming to y'all and some rumors we're going to go on over and we got a lot of app updates from Google in particular and other providers as well we're going to go over some routing and raman stuff and then we're going to finish up with some patent wars Daniels favorite sections isolettes hit the big news of the week so android 4.1 2 was released two days ago um AOSP was released so those of you that are into rooting and raman you'll be excited to know that um just real quick if a few notification changes we're done with with android 4.1 point to know a lot of bug fixes you know you know stability performance yadda yadda yadda but the major thing that a lot of people are to notice me you can do a notification expansion and contraction and jelly bean now with just one finger you don't have to figure out some weird way to like pinch and zoom like a tiny little section of your screen you know you don't have a fat finger it anymore you can just slide up and slide down some pretty neat there's some why five fixes on enterprise network so that use wpa enterprise encryption and a few other things up a lot of under the hood changes as far as we can tell far the nexus 7 was the first device to receive that over the air update so if you haven't gotten again you know you can either spam your check now button you can try clearing the cache foot in and in for stopping the Google services framework app or there's a whole bunch ways you can do you can manually download it and and flash it yourself you can adb side loader there's all sorts of way so go ahead and check our website on various ways you can manually install that if you did not get the update yet personally I unrooted Nexus 7 and I've tried every way possible and I'm yet to see it update that's I actually 80 be side-loaded it as soon as soon as I found that download link I downloaded it in flash instead and ADB side load it's real simple way for those who they don't know Mom atb silence as I've said now like 10 times is you download the over-the-air update patch file it's like 35 Meg you download that directly from Google servers you reboot to recovery cuz you know you don't need to be Rudy don't get completely stock recovery yeah you reboot you plug your USB cable and the n-type actually book before you even type anything you need to go to stock recoveries you select ply supply or apply update from a DB and then you open up your command line interface and you you type adb sideload really long filename or whatever you reduce you save the zip file to hit enter it transfers it to your device it applies the update and a few minutes later everything's it's extremely simple so Scott you should try that if you're tired of spam in your button might have to try that and I might just wait until Google actually pushes it to me because I kind of want to know how long it'll take for Google to push it to me as opposed to waiting for verizon so I'm just kind of curious about that we got tried clearing the cache yeah I mean there's all sorts of neat little ways to get it all right so besides me 7.the the Galaxy Nexus hspa+ version you can get from the Play Store that the attack jus version the factory images are now available for that which are Jay Z 0 54 k as well as the yak to version which is the original global version of the HEA hspa+ version of the galaxy nexus that was actually out of tonight a day later and just a little bit ago actually the nexus s was added as a factory image too so if you're you're running stock or or not actually if you're rooted to and you want to get those on your gsm gox nexus or your nexus s you can just download the factory images and go ahead and flash those if you're if you haven't had the update push to you yet there's all sorts of ways to manually get it um yeah so Verizon Galaxy Nexus friend Galaxy Nexus not so much um let's say two days since it was released the nexus s in the nexus 7 or galaxy nexus gsm variants got it within two days um i'm not gonna hold my breath until the verizon or sprint version gets that's just me no I don't know you guys can do it up little bit like a late Christmas present well I'll tell you what we'll talk about how you can get it other ways and ring the ramen here a little bit a little bit later in the show um what a related note to factor images the Nexus Q has its ICS image actually posted available for your restoration pleasure if you decide that hack the heck out of it you can now get that back to factory Nexus Q goodness um every single Nexus device has now Android 4.1 point2 binaries available basically you and I really don't care about this unless your unless your ramdev and then then you know you're going to Rome to have all the things you're going to download the play this binary for sin slap them in your custom roms we'll get to that a little bit later in the show um moving on to more Android news or SI android news depending on how you want to look at it or not to yeah remember last week on the show we were all excited about all these awesome things coming to android 4.2 as we typically are about new Android releases yeah yeah so we were jumping down up and down high five in you know we're doing webcam NFC all sorts of crazy stuff yeah we were we were we were really excited about all these things coming well it turns out that that they they were fabricated android and me android and me um where there was originally report that it turns out that their source was unconfirmed and was a hoax a trickster playing a big hoax on the android community they actually submitted the story to a bunch of different the android sites and we one of them took the bait per se and you know what that that sucks but hey we got to find out about project LOL which jbq and dan murrell let us know in google+ that the project LOL was fully underway per se is good for the letdown i'll laugh at the same time yeah you know who knows maybe some of those things will come to fruition maybe not we'll find out here i guess we'll find out here probably less than a month if rumors are going you know in firmers are going to develop on time which we'll get to that later in the show after we talked about some some app updates this week's guy okay so we move on to our app updates and new releases so Google Plus the mobile app got updated google plus page owners can view post and comment from mobile this is nice for companies or people that have a bunch of pages on that want to represent their brand and do easily through a mobile device which they really haven't been able to do before also you can discover new people and topics it's a new section if you swipe to the left it's called fine people it's kind of a nice setup needs a little bit of work i think but it's nice for the most part also you have an new home screen widget and this home screen widget has been redesigned so many times I don't remember when it wasn't even in the app but it it doesn't have a scrollable it's on a scrollable widgets you go from post to post and you can't go back it's very odd and there's a list of many of them right so yeah that's no manager page feature yet I have not can I tell you how awesome it's not or is it not know so you would think it would be awesome because we've wanted this ability those of us that have pages that we would like to manage well yeah you have to sign out of your account back out to the year in the home screen then when you go to relaunch the app and says hey do you want to sign in is your email address your gmail account or add a new account so now when you click your email address like when you first very first launched Google+ it comes up so what I want to do I want to login as me or then it lists all of your pages so every single TIFF you you know administrate multiple pages is such a huge pain but even for one page you have to sign out of your account close the app relaunch it sign back in type all your stuff view your notifications which of you that every time oh yeah every time and then and now here's what's me so instant upload one of my favorite features of the Google+ app your pictures automatically get posted well whenever you first launched the Google+ app brand new spank a nap new app you have to go in and say I want to turn on instant upload yeah you have to do that to every single time you sign out to manage a page so if you use instant upload it's not enabled whenever you sign back in it is is there across you know I have to go in and did you turn on instant upload every time okay I mean the function the functionality is there it's just you know slowly getting there I mean okay is it so this should be don't like gmail where you got a packed into the spinner off topic cuz it's nothing wrong account yeah that's you're right John has got the best of any really male type functionality is it better than nothing yes in a pinch if you have to make a post from mobile what you will you do it yes will it suck yeah but if you need to do it for mobile you couldn't do it before yeah I mean it's bad but at least the functionality is there right yeah that's very true next rather large and app that makes me very happy and I know it makes Daniel very happy to Google Play Store got updated to 3.9 point 16 so if you guys remember back in August that's when it was updated last so in this new version you can go if you go into my apps and then you swipe over to the right side so all apps you can multi-select apps by long pressing one and then tapping any which way any more apps so just like you would select many emails in gmail it works the same way and when you select let's say you select 10 apps and they're not installed or purchased apps you can remove them from your history so this has been nice because if you go into a app an app that you want to try out but you don't want to use it for a long time it will stay in your history but this way you can get or get rid of it which is really really nice and kind of letting himself every place for history it gets very cluttered yeah especially with those like you know nonsense AB C's download and it's like oh no don't want that yeah next is basically it the google play store keeps track of your location enlists so let's say you're in the my app section and let's say you want to go over to the all apps well if you're going on the all apps and seeing your history and then popping back to your installed in my apps it would never remember your location the list food always have to scroll back to the bottom wheel all the way back down yeah declare yeah people used to play store a lot and download a lot of apps you know what I'm talking about download the new one and you will love it it wasn't serious yeah also it happen yeah also the app update notifications are now expandable which is nice and also the the images for a nap width downloading has changed and also when you have downloaded an app and it is in your notification bar when you pull down the notification bar it actually has a big icon for the app on the left as opposed to that generic image that was there before which is nice and it add some color to the install apps which didn't have before and then also um yeah pretty much it adds a lot of functionality and a lot of stuff in the code is kind of leaked like wish lists and all this new stuff that is coming and some stuff with malware and a lot of things to come for the Google+ village mahalo we're against malware oh yeah against not malware's but getting a nice boy comes with your very own belviq against malware okay odd derek was what was going on with Google TV yeah so so speaking of devices being updated to you know with a new version of google play google TV is following suit and they actually got a whole bunch of play updates starting Monday um playing movies some devices actually got a little bit early last week than they have talked about last week but play movies is now available for Google TV playing music as well not play music once again it was available a while ago but not on all devices so the basically Google TV is placed during all the things starting with Sony devices a revamped version of Google Play is rolling out all the vices will eventually get it so if you have a logitech revue or the vizio co-star you can look towards the later end of this month to get those updates but right now those of you that are getting it it's basically like the Play Store version that's on your phone or on your tablet versus you know like the current or the old version didn't look anything like the play store that you would use on your phone your tablet they're completely different looking now it's the same at basically the it looks exactly the same you know there's different the same type of categories and everything so it they're really integrating google play into into google TV so if you have purchases of movies that you've bought through Play you can watch them on google play movies and TV so so it's great I've tried it out and I love it it's coming along very nicely there's there's still a few things you know personally that I have issues with on the coast are but it's getting better and this is a rumor that will be getting better soon so you know that that's good i'm happy to see google continuing to update google TV and make it better okay so moving on an app updates Dropbox got an update to version 2 dot 2 and basically what's new and this one is you can look at your pictures and videos in a better way basically they've introduced a new Photos tab you can look at all of your photos and videos that are uploaded and it's very fast and it's a very easy way to see all of the camera uploads that you've enabled on your device if you have and also you can upload upload zip moved into the menu in the file browser and a lot of under the hood things have been fixed as well next we have Zagat Google's acquisition that they made earlier was it earlier this year or last is messier this summer ok so this summer on they purchase Zagat which was a commerce this summer they've had sang it for a while it was over a year i think okay so basically Google they came out with a Zagat app um it's basically like Google Local in maps but this app is just a standalone app um my experience has been ok the only bummer about it and I kind of understand it but you need a Google+ account in order to use it so I think a lot of people will you know that will rub people the wrong way because if I need a Facebook account right if I need a Twitter account in order to sign into something that makes me angry it makes me angry only because I don't want to use Facebook and trigger and we prefer to use Google+ but tons of people are happy with those things yeah right let's yeah but all the time integrate drone services in their own ABS I mean yeah like i like i like ones where it gives you a selection of options and you can use your group of credentials i mean i don't really see that is being very different from your google+ account because it's the same thing but it's pulling all the data and it's watching all the data from Google Plus local and that's what it runs off of it's actually not like a true standalone product with one remember when they updated the privacy policy that they would share information from product to product yeah I don't think that this Zagat or Zagat as a company ain't or a mobile app applies to that how in the one wouldn't be honest with you because it was a new acquisition and it was made before that so it's not written in there well speculations are speculations I my way to see why it wouldn't wouldn't be included in that but hey I'm not a acquisition lawyer and I don't read to service I just blindly click accept and agree like every other dumb American that doesn't repay it regardless I like the fact that Google's pushing google+ ok ok next app update is foxfi if you guys have a Galaxy Nexus from verizon and it's not rooted I know a couple people that do you and you want to Wi-Fi tether what I said and we feel sorry for you we do feel sorry for you and if you want a way to tether Wi-Fi tether to your tablet or some other device on without root then spies the app for you and actually didn't push an update to the app store or to the Play Store it just changed in the code some out on their servers I don't know how it changed oh yeah yeah i saw the developers like huh I didn't do anything yeah cookbook but now it works for jellybean device works now yeah so jelly bean devices good news and then nod Jonathan what happened with contacts they finally fixed the contact sync on there in where it doesn't continually feed you low resolution photos even though that you've updated it you know you go to gmail and go to your contacts in Gmail the image that you upload now will not be compressed down and pixelated anymore it will be too high view your contacts think is finally fixed on there in so you clear out all your contact data whatever you're going to get high-quality image now where it's been broken for we've been complaining about that for years they said but any one of these are nice to see that looks exactly like the Google+ image upload to change your profile or banner picture its own old you know 2005 interface you could drag and drop now you open your veil pretty quickly across your make sure everything you know it's the same thing that we using google plus and it's nice i've tried it out what is it 720p good no i'm not sure the resolution but it's what was the 01 like 96 96 right so anything ya see somebody's face pop up on your phone is just really wild card intuition devices are nowadays well that when the not even devices i mean the sheer file size we have LTE networks that can deal with that right now so i mean you know why not plus you cast that locally anyway you know which doesn't have expandable storage but yeah they destroyed the system and data partition so it doesn't actually hit your storage so stop your whining so was this a certified pusher what was yes so I've been able to store high-resolution pictures in your contacts either on the device or in you know in gmail or otherwise no one it synced and I think their server side effect out yeah yeah so you were cool as long as you never synced your contacts okay yeah which normal device yeah let's move on to some device rumors Oh scada I hear I hear Samsung is getting making things smaller well yeah this isn't really a rumor um it was kind of mouse it was announced today right in the Germany yeah uh basically if t hat deutschland um samsung released the galaxy s3 mini um kind of a lackluster they kind of talked it up I need a s3 equivalent but this smaller so basically what it has it as a dual-core 1 gigahertz processor as an 800 x 400 to paramus play on DGA support for the front camera 5 megapixel back camera on Bluetooth 4.0 NFC eighty eight or 16 gig onboard memory it does have a microSD expansion slot as a 1500 milliamp hour battery which I don't know how that's device is going to survive um it's just whether the last a good little low resolution uh yeah and another things I run it runs Android for not one jellybean and I think a reason why the battery so small is I don't think it has LTE know so that might be this is thinking they announced it in Germany for a reason this is not an American spec device because those bands are also AT&T only barely yeah I wonder if they're going to be bringing this to LTE networks I I would have figured that big of a degree whatever processor that is for of 1.5 gigahertz dual-core that dragon then they're differently that's all they need to do so out of this release what do you guys think do you guys think Samsung talked it up a little bit too much or you guys think that this is a okay device I think this is dead on arrival in America and it doesn't like I don't see a E and it doesn't have a leggy so neither none of the other three carriers are going to take it okay if if somebody was looking for a mid-level phone at a fifty-dollar to 100 dollar price range with a mail-in rebate of physiology prefer take abroad for 50 bucks you know what get to get the razor in but if you don't want the razr m then though very there you go the galaxy that's three mini for fifty bucks if thats its price i mean the thing is this this device on these sexist is useless America must you okay Mulder no it doesn't support team oh oh oh snap much bands but that's it I just wonder how it's gonna succeed and I wonder how their privy an iphone on these girls are gonna be no data or no high-speed data I Derek I what's this about the nexus 4 you know what I hate that name um so so uh it's short move on and that's more than nexus rumors so we have the LG Nexus 4 or the LG Nexus G or the LG optimus Nexus it's been called a lot of things chances are it's you know we're starting to lean towards the nexus for this because we've seen inventory cause the nexus 4 so that that's kind of confusing to me and I even what the hell I'm talking about early so I can act like it pretty well so we do have the nexus one right the first Nexus then the nexus 2 is you know the nexus s and the next um you know the third Nexus was the Galaxy Nexus so the fourth Nexus smartphone would be the nexus 4 but we also have a nexus 7 which wasn't named because it was you know the seventh Nexus devices has said because it was a seven inch device and the nexus for the LG Nexus as a 4.7 inch phone which is basically five so I'm confused as hell I don't like the name Nexus 4 it's good to confuse people that don't know what the hell they're talking about but then again most people never heard of a nexus phone anyway so you know it might might end up working out with but yeah I they're gonna bring out a pack of them and it's gonna be four five six oh yeah if that ends up happening but I just I don't know it's a confusing name I think I don't like it but besides the name so about a Belarusian website on liner besides who leaked all sorts of Nexus Gooden this past week first they started out by a leak in a couple pictures you know a showing hey we have this in our hand you know which was better than the previous leaks from a Russian forum actually that had a whole bunch of blurry pictures so we like doing a little better quality pictures and then they went crazy and released high-resolution photos they had a full 360-degree spin of the device so they actually have the device in their hand and they compared it to the iphone 5 hold the tube a side-by-side you know hands up in the air one and one hand one on the other into a drop test them videos because so they have the vice it it's coming i mean they're holding in their hands it's not if this is no photoshop um they also confirm the specs so the they said the nexus a4 well come with a 4.7 inch display with which you know we can already knew since it's basically an optimist g it's a 1280 by 768 pixels which is unusual well that's 16 green and i think is it and it has a 1.5 gigahertz quad-core Qualcomm processor and 2 gigs of RAM which I said that Optimus G here we're talking about it the internals are basically that the external is not it's different shell and actually in my opinion looks like a Galaxy Nexus from the front if you were to hold the two side by side stand back a few feet your way huh there's two gods next I mean I that's what they look like in my opinion on similar enough about I don't think it was broken to need to fix it honestly I thought I like okay I understand that now the pictures that are out there don't show as much curved glass may be slightly I don't know if that's just cuz it's a picture and I want to see it in my head yeah I it may be ever so slightly curved glass um the back of it is cannot the same as the you know the Galaxy Nexus it looks completely different the cameras off to the side and then the back cover boy actually came take off the back cover so it makes it very very different in the Galaxy Nexus but the back cover um has oh I was like a crystal design pattern matrix thingy it's pretty neat-looking I think I like it almost reminds you of like the live wallpaper that the nexus one hand almost and but in like a physical form um anyways back to the phone specs 8 8 megapixel rear facing camera and they're saying that at least the version they have comes with eight gig of internal storage so right now immediately everyone's gonna yell oh my god only eight gig and no SD card what are we going to do well you know maybe this is the incredibly cheap version that they're going to sell in the Play Store for everyone to use you know everyone sorry everyone to buy and maybe this will be the $99 version the hundred-dollar version whatever it's going to be it's going to be really cheap um will we see a 16 gig variant oh you know I'm gonna guess and I'm gonna say yeah we probably will we see a 32 you know so but they're going to have to make something bigger than just ate you know that's my opinion so um the the nexus 4 was also rumored to launch according to a separate website a French newspaper reported that on october 29 there's going to be a global launch said you know no word from google and not to confirm but it's exciting to know that here in just a few weeks it's going to globally launch if that rumor you know pans out to be true but I mean as many leaks as we're getting from this you know I mean every day and something new leaks from this phone so it is not as another well-kept secret it's definitely coming in the fact that more and more things keep leaking means that it's going to come soon um but another week has passed a week Carphone Warehouse late to screenshot of their internal sales system showing that it's called the Nexus 4 and then it comes in black and it also comes in white so that's good mean I said it's just another confirmation that it's coming um I can I kind of want to go back to the nexus 4 or is it getting to the point where hardware is not what we're looking forward to not necessarily but it's all software that we are like oh these are new things that we can do are you kidding me as you see my great advice yeah I honestly think that Nexus needs hardware more than they need software at this point for the specific us no I agar that but the thing is functionality with with software like things that are updated I mean it what would be more desirable for you guys a you know a badass you know hardware and lesser software or better software lesser hardware why can't I have no no no I agree with you there and that's what we had to do well I think the biggest problem with Google's software isn't the base operating system anymore as much as it is all the services that can offer that would be updated on the Play Store like google voice needs to be updated um you know converging messaging services converging new servant and this is all stuff that doesn't really need an operating system upgrade to accomplish and so for that reasoning I guess I'd lean or toward wine to see that I think there are a couple areas the Galaxy Nexus needed needs to improve on like battery life camera battery life camera and maybe you know obviously speed with newer supposedly new amazing battery technology you know so we'll see where that goes on the IPS display will help cut down on battery there yeah a special on google apps because anything with a white background is just murdered own led disparate ok so obviously we want things that are better overall you're like better screen better battery life things like that but are there anything any new things that you might add to a device if you could like would wireless charging be something that you would want if it's there I'll take it but it's not something I necessarily go out of my way for ok good I mean you still gonna take a plug around just to up the poor yeah I'm gonna be not gonna yeah you know plug in the mat by my you know desk and yeah possibly for my desk instead of having to plug it in it's nice to have if you go or in a stationary you know if I wanted to take a charger to work it really just say it's not much anything more than you know it's cool to look at it but yeah I think that wireless charging would be something that as it becomes more Universal just like NFC it'll be more of a desirable thing to have it'll be kind of like a no-brainer you can Co to the airport or something and maybe a table in a restaurant just set your phone down you know takes care exactly and that's the guest standardized to that extent and it would be worth having yeah so let's talk about another nexus rumor over the past week whole carphone warehouse and they're they're all about taking screenshots of their internal system and posting them anonymously on the web it looks like it looks like there's going to be a seven in the nexus 7 32 gig variant coming out very very shortly that will replace the 16 gig because the 16 gig on our website was listed as end of life so actually someone actually bought one I believe they bought a 16 gig and they got a 32 gig in a jam and Japan so it's definitely coming then somebody accidentally got one so let's let's talk about some very far-fetched rumors based on maybe a few far fetching facts motorola awesome and motorola manta ray so over the past week and actually even in the past even for going even further back various android blogs including ours android authorities we looked at our server logs we look at our Google Analytics walls and we see devices called Holcomb and manta ray and they're running Android 4.2 apparently so so why do we think these are motorola device as well Occam's razor is basically a theory a line of reasoning stating that the simplest answer is most often the correct answer and so who makes a device that's called a razor well motorola so is that is it a far reach yes but it's not too far i don't think um the manta ray well is that a tablet while you go look back at motorola and you say the stingray and the wing ray of the Stingray a wing ray where Motorola's Wi-Fi ltd zoom so it is it going to be the next tablet is it going to be the manta ray well maybe but but also the zune was also referred to as the manta ray when it first came out and people were calling it the manta ray so google / motorola could be just testing 4.2 on it it might not be a completely new device you know like i said it's all speculation well no but it's it's fun to talk about you is it is it a new Nexus tablet is it just a motorola tablet is it the same one who knows is this a new motorola phone is it a motorola nexus fingers crossed confidence probably average so i I'd like to see a motorola Nexus I'd like for this to turn out to be a motorola Nexus you motorola makes has some great hardware great gps great you know radios great signal strength you know it's pretty much top of the line when it comes to connectivity so i'd like to see it they don't quality too yeah you could beat the crap out of somebody with the zoom well they were thinking addendums so its weaponry that's it for nexus rumors i mean i'm sure next week we're gonna have another another big batch alone because we're gonna keep reporting them non-stop until the device is actually unless they're a rumored launch date for the yeah i'm saying that early October 29th yeah i mean if that truly is the launch date for the new Nexus um we're going to be getting a lot more stuff very soon and it'll be a constant flow of rumors pictures devices new OS features stuff like that it'll be a constant flow which we love here alright so that's a couple quick hits here just to talk about motorola razr HD at the droid razr HD depending on the what you want to call it and also the droid razr maxx HD the official launch date for them it was finally announced it's just going to be here in a week October 18th which so if you remember the announcement arbitrary a while ago these phones you know amazing battery life great screens you know nice hardware so definitely definitely you know check them out if you're interested in a new film but this would be one of the better overall phones as far as for like we said signal quality this if you want to lead your family to get one that you don't have to worry about that's probably going people when they take them to it definitely um so let's talk about written in ramen you know as we said earlier in the show that Android is now up to four point one point two so those of you there root in Rome you want to you know you obviously you're not getting them any type of over-the-air update from from from google since that functionality was removed and your custom rom so where can you get four point one point two well cyanogenmod there they're pretty beastly on the following day after the 4.1 1.2 announcement the first nightly yesterday 1010 that 1010 nightly came with four point one point two on nearly every device had a nightly available I I think as well as their milestone one release or sorry milestone two or month two depending on what you want to call it the end the series the m-series to that was released today is 4.1 point to as well bugless beast came out with 4.1 point 2 above this beast is pretty much a stock Android ROM with very very few changes you know there's a reboot menu couple text messages and changes and that's really yeah you know a tweaker to the colonel i mean it's it's pretty much stock android great wrong i used to run it for a very long time for switched over to to see em once seems battery life and lag left so but with me is another great rom it's all up to date and paranoid android well paranoid android is built off of CM so obviously starting on 1010 paranoid android became 4.1 point2 as well there's a few other smaller roms out there but the couple the other popular ones aren't up to date yet i'm sure it will be coming soon but if you're itching for some 4.1 point2 you got to get that paranoid android bugless beast or cyanogenmod now so there's a few other small ones that have available but the the big guys big guys are working at as you can see um twerk if you're at work fan the team win custom recovery project they updated today to version 2.3 points0 they have a couple tiny little features and bug fixes the biggest one that I noticed we're in the changelog was a charging indicator now it always said that you were you know what way your battery percentage was when you were in to work but now the charging indicator is there and it's updated every 60 seconds let you know it's actually charging um it was rebased off the latest AOSP code they added to a TV side load code and faster boot supposedly a few tweaks like I said so I want to go and snag that you can install it through a good manager if you use that just you know install open scrip Recovery Manager no go ahead and update that if it's available for your device and you can also download it and flashing mainly if you wish to do that all right so let's move on to Daniel's favorite section patent boars so the appeals court reversed um the injunction on samsung galaxy nexus in yes yes and pre freshly actually oh god again why don't you summarize it and then i'll go on into samsung's response because i love their response yeah so basically they said that Apple couldn't prove that people were buying the Galaxy Nexus because it had search functions or because i had aggregated search functions they couldn't prove that this particular patent was doing anything in any way shape or form to cost them any business whatsoever so even if it is bound to be infringing the damages aren't going to be reasonable enough to merit an injunction in the first place so yeah they basically said the judge cove the woman who's running the samsung purchase apple trial using her discretion and totally rejected the injunction now then how'd that make you feel then discrediting her like that and calling her out well it's always nice to see judges not doing their job get told that they're not doing their job it is the second time in like two weeks that the appeals court has slapped down in a junction out of her Court now can there be ramifications for her actions I don't know I don't know the particulars of you know exactly where she sits in the court I might be an appointed position in which case it's an impeachment thing where you're some appointed positions are for a term some are for life some judges are elected so I just yet I don't know because I mean one would assume if you rule in the wrong way that's incorrect um that's not only think there are the legal ramifications for that I mean potentially you could get just borrowed I would soon okay well samsung responded to the reversal injunction on the Samsung Galaxy Nexus miska what base what they said is they said we welcome this reversal by the Federal Circuit by finding that the district court abused its discretion in order ordering a preliminary injunction against the Galaxy Nexus today's decision confirms that the role of patent law is to prevent is to protect innovation and not to unreasonably stifle competition and restrict consumer choice we will continue to take all appropriate measures to ensure the availability of our innovative products good this pavement yes and in separate Apple Samsung legal nonsense uh in the ITC the international trade cork Apple has been basically complaining and accusing Samsung of abusing its obligations under fran fair reasonable and non-discriminatory restrictions for standards essentials patents and the ITC pretty much just totally rejected every part of apples argument just ripped it to pieces Apple is basically saying Samsung's is trying to impose an injunction because we can't come to an agreement on a fee for these ads well there is a says that's built for that exact problem that Apple completely didn't bother trying to hear they're just going straight to court in an effort to lower the price of the patents and so the ITC rejected that all together interesting it's always good to ceiling big balls yeah they also said that Samsung even under friend obligations has no obligation for their opening offer in a negotiation to be fair and reasonable or non-discriminatory if you had an obligation to negotiate in good faith it's very interesting to see a company like that trying to overreach and getting denied well I mean part of it is this is how Fran patent licensing has worked for four years and years and Apple is just waiting into this and trying to run around saying no no we made up all of this we're the best we know everything but they're building on the back of all of these standards essentials patents that they don't have any of and they don't understand how they work not just in terms of like the tech of how those pieces of technology function but they don't understand how the system around those patents works and their action in the design patents fear has disrupted things enough that the tally a shin is all of these standards such as patents and Apple isn't willing to play by the rules they're trying to play by the rules as they want them to be but not by the rules as they are sure I don't see that he can make design patents more valuable than to be as dollars it took to build the cell phone industry to be exactly well Eric Schmidt made some comments about what he thought the the patent industry was doing this week yeah he was being pretty forward about it well I don't really think anybody well some people obviously do I don't think there's too many people will do let me rephrase that that think software patents are are the best thing in the in the world I think they need to be there but they need to be there in a different way so Derek you had some things you wanted to touch I'm just a few miscellaneous stuff here actually I mean it's all related to the Android BBQ that's next week so as I said yeah the Android barbecues next week um if you're into collecting android minis you know i have a oh I have a few back there my shrine um you'll be happy to know that there'll be two special edition special edition for the Android BBQ minis released next week if you're there if you're attending the big Android BBQ you'll get to pick them up for twenty bucks for the set the one guy has like a Hawaiian shirt on and a camera and he's like a forest almost you know he's partying in the summer the other guys grilling out on a grill you know he's he's cooking them hamburgers hot dogs a steak BBQ who knows maybe BBQ says it is the Android BBQ I guess so yeah he's ponies grilling out that's pretty cool um they're nice they're very well-designed I like a mom like I said you pick off for twenty bucks on site yet if you're at the BBQ if you don't attend the BBQ don't worry you will have you will have a fair shot like everybody else too mad dash to the dead zebra website and buy them in exactly 11 0 is 11am or 11pm I'm not sure on the details on that 11am I'm going to gas because that's when the other ones went on sale on october 20th so so i'll double check in the details if i'm wrong but yeah so start spamming the the website if you want to pick those up they're going to go fast in my opinion and also remember last week I made a few references 20 a pink gorilla suit um so it looks like that's gonna happen so so I have friends enemies on to call that that has donated money to this cause they raised they raised the entire amount one hundred eighty dollars to buy a hundred eighty dollar pink full-body gorillas fuzzy suit and apparently it's happening on fellow android enthusiasts Jody Barnes is going to pick it up in a few days and yeah so I'm sure we have all sorts of fun video and photos to post from the BBQ of me and that but I can't let him down you know if they're they're buying it I I jokingly agreed to it I never thought it would actually happen but uh I didn't notice the focus of this joke turned we came from turntable FM when a whole bunch of us in the BBQ and a whole bunch and George fans were in there DJ well is where the monkey suit came fast by the monkey suit came from our hood I quit back sorry I it all makes sense now so you need a thousand points to get a gorilla suit I don't remember how I started are all the details and one of the things was something like hey we should use turntable don FM to DJ at the pool party and I said something like oh you know maybe by the time the BBQ comes around I'll be able to be cool i'll have a thousand points to be a gorilla and one thing led to another and i said well hey if I had a gorilla suit I bj at the barbecue in a gorilla suit and apparently someone said well let's make that happen let's find a gorilla suit for you to wear and ice again if you find a suit all where you know we're in the moment is a heat of the moment it was a good time until they actually found a pink one and until everybody bid money to actually make me wear it but hey I'm gonna have a good time but on a happy note today I reached a thousand points on turntable so now i can truly DJ as a gorilla wearing a gorilla suit so yeah we'll post pictures next week sure that's an amazing accomplishment by the way it's an android achievement unlocked Bravo and tell you know now there's gonna be a lot of achievements unlocked at the BBQ that's all I know I mean it there's good is it's gonna be a good time there's going to be a whole bunch of developers there's gonna be a whole bunch of fans whole bunch of vendors a bunch of swag come on your Google+ bragging rights you know what I'm gonna mix I'm gonna go to schemer since I I know schemers meant for this right go there and put all these things to do at the bar q and cherem don't shake your head i'm doing i'm already rolled in creighton right now okay alright guys so so let us know what you think of the Nexus rumor is the nexus LG a lot of people were rant and rave and saying that they don't like it then again everyone other people say oh it's amazing so let us know what side of the fence you're on the comments do you love it do you hate it uh are you going to hold out for another one you know it is or is there going to be more devices coming in the next few weeks so we going to see the HTC five fingers crossed 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that we need to answer them real quick so i have another minute or two and sure you guys aren't going anywhere you're not doing anything else so all right so uh he wants to know what's up with the youtube app we actually talked about this last week um you too bad remember that it's now kind of like Google+ you scroll up and down into the swipe and left to right to see comments related videos and all that good stuff I personally hated it John and Scott I think liked it you guys still feel that way you like the new youtube app design still plan it it needs more features but yes it is nice and it's very fast at least I like scrolling better than swiping yeah I was used to swype and like I said I'm eventually only a used to it and I'll put you know two months from now I'll come back and I'll say this is most amazing thing ever don't ever change it but right now i'm not a fan and yousef also was asking questions about the appleton it recently expanded their patent coverage on slide to unlock the slide to unlock the original patents were we're just you know basically slide from left to right to unlock and it in a straight line and that's basically on set the new one basically says hey you can slide unlock from anywhere and a hold massive direction it's a very very broad feature and almost saying that you know you think they did I am NOT a patent lawyer but um I wouldn't assume that jelly beans slide on and it's not really even a slide you know push in the middle and flick to a ring to unlock but whatever I I would assume it's safe but I wouldn't from the way it's worded but I also don't think it'll matter I'll go who's gonna hold up its way to then there's prior cases I mean the thing that Apple seems to have forgotten taking apple out of the equation forty percent of patents that get tried and tested fail as in forty percent of all patents that are grant granted to the world are complete trash so so Dan is that like eighty-seven percent of statistics are made up on spotters oh that's like according to court documents and court records I don't want to see your source on that Dan well I would have give a lot I would assume that a lot of companies just apply for very broad patents be exactly because if they had a broad patent then they have some type of footing to stand behind and once they get that footing and then they get another patent that is relatively similar then they have more ground in that area to defend themselves which is ridiculous well I mean the thing is patents are supposed to be used defensively and I think that they're not being like I think that the patent and Trade Office hasn't woken up to the fact that they're handing out weapons very broad yeah they're handing out corporate weapons that these companies are taking and not just Apple and Samsung with patent trolls and Microsoft and everybody they're handing out baseball bats that these companies are just beating the crap out of each other with the thing is um the galaxy s3 with the unlock with the water theme or whatever this patent says from the first location to an unlocked region it needs to be a predefined unlock region you can do the s3 anywhere so that patent would would not hold up against the s3 yeah cuz I think this particular patent has been rejected several times before but hey the little engine that could keep trying and that's the other thing is you just keep putting a patent application and then it goes to a different examiner every time and eventually one of them is just remember stamping rubber-stamping rubber stamping because they get paid by the approval not by you know the quality of their work very true okay so guys we're known over time once again just kind of want to say we are available on youtube soundcloud stitcher itunes RSS feed bottom right of the site android authority calm and also if you want to comment and enjoy the show and comment with us google+ page of android authority have a good night having that everybody tech news news