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welcome to android authority on air the original android hang out chill on google+ i'm derek ross and i'm scott anderson this week we're joined by returning gasps Johnathan Franklin John thanks for coming again we appreciate it good say everybody and what's that well what's that new device you get with you I have received today about lunchtime a verizon version of the galaxy note 2 so yeah we'll talk a little bit later cool alright so this week on the agenda we have some app updates uh ingress just got an update moments ago so wow you're listening or watching to us go ahead and download your angers update google drive did some stuff chrome netflix and amazon is big in japan for device updates we're going to talk about in the droid DNA the galaxy note 2 on verizon that John has actually we're gonna talk about some leaks and of course written in ramen with some Nexus devices patent wars we always talk about and though we're going to be giving some stuff away we're going to give it away to ingress codes and we're going to be giving away a code to enter on our website for a chance to win a nexus 10 because who wouldn't want a free Nexus 10 right and then we're gonna close up with some Derek whiny time is Dan you can't be here this evening uh likes to call where I'm going to talk about how i sold my nexus for today and why I know it's a sad sad day but it but we'll get to that later so so uh Android ecosystem stuff we're gonna get to as well so Scott app updates I Apple tits uh ingress just pushed an app updates uh no changelog so we don't really know what's in it so download with caution um I guess because this other week posting updates with no changelog data we did oh no I installed it in my game didn't like blow up or anything so yeah but shame on them for no changelog and I will assume that they're gonna update it very soon with a all change log um good yeah so no changelog on Google Drive got updated this is a pretty big update you can edit google spreadsheets in the new native editor that's a native editor which is awesome um it's really really nice it's on tablets on the Nexus 7 it is a lot better and it's getting to be a full-fledged pc interface for google drive it's really cool um you can edit contents of tables in Google Docs editor you can also formatting is maintained when copying pasting within Google Docs that was kind of an annoyance you can also single tap to enter edit mode in google docs and you can add a shortcut to drive files or folders to your home screen that's a nice addition and you can also send a link that supports copying link to the clipboard now this is a new introduction let's say you were going to share a link from a website um in your share options you have copy link to clipboard or shared a clipboard so that was kind of a new interesting addition um I think that they should have had that in stock Android not just drive but it actually came in the drive update so that's kind of cool I'm going to be using that and i have been using that a lot chrome got updated and a very short change log this version includes a number of stability fixes and performance improvements for me personally it was a great update a lot of performance improvements and stability fixes definitely deserves a bigger changelog than what they gave you because it it's a lot better yeah i actually knows it it was a lot faster on my Nexus 4 that is in a box now and my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus I I open it up on all the devices and it seemed like it actually did perform a little bit better and I was actually a topic last week we were talking about how chrome is not doing yeah it's not what we would like it to be at on Android I mean it has all the bells and whistles that we love and we use daily you know it has you know cloud sync it syncs your tabs I mean that's a huge I use that every day going from three different devices and computers and everything that's great but every once a while it just seems slow to me yeah I use in love it you know I I don't care but a lot of people don't like the fact that it's a little choppy from time to time so yeah it definitely improved on the the choppiness when you open a link and you start scrolling down you know you get that you wait for it when it Scrolls down and it's just very choppy um it's improved some um so much so that you actually notice it which is it's really nice it's definitely a lot quicker um but it's a good update I think a big case scenario of what came with the performance people knocking it was especially with jellybean the stock AOSP browser were so good so I mean really just buttery smooth and you go from that chrome and it's pretty noticeable going back and forth between the two even though chrome has a little bit more what you'd like to see like what Derek mentoring with sinking tabs and sinking almost every you know having the other bookmarks folders and everything tied into it but it's good to see get close to the AOSP browser because it is more secure and it does you know implements and boxing so there wasn't an outfit on google+ that does this week that chrome looks to more align themselves with the desktop version of chrome in terms of version numbers and api levels in the in the near future so that that's something to look forward to to really the think that they should just focus I mean for the time being on parole and get it up to stuff once it's an performance then they can start adding with whatever they want but for the time being I want it to be able to be to replace my you know another browser I want that to be the elite browser like it is on the desktop s'okay know since we keep talking about browsers here what's your browser a choice for your android device you rock and dolphin you know stock browser Chrome Firefox something else aqua or let us let us know in the comments it's a just for just for the heck of it and ok let's move on to another app update on netflix got it kind of a complete redesign for the player added some features and you get a larger volume button you got um easy scrubbing for longer videos and scrubbing the scenes and you have scrubbing screen stills kind of like on YouTube that was recently introduced a couple months ago and then added support for android for not to and improve stability and playback bug fixes which haunted some devices that made people very angry um but you know what my sister was recently complaining that on her nexus 7 the netflix app ever since she got the android 4.2 update had been junk so you know if you're a big netflix user such as my sister you have a nexus 7 i'm sure these enhancements and fixes will will be much appreciated um and then the amazon appstore is now in japan um the to our listeners in Japan I'm sure I'm sure we have some you know what time is that relation um yeah so that's a kind of a big push for Amazon their arm and also to add navigation is in Mexico I'm self that fully launched out so we're going to do an ingress invite now for those of people that don't have invites that have never played it before could you give a little bit of a description on what ingresses because I know that there's been a lot of media buzz about it on google+ and people some people don't know what it is all right so before I talk about what ingress is that's what we're going to do this week is we're going to give the code away in the comments of the post of the original post something different than last week so on the android authority google+ page so if you're watching this on youtube or somebody else's stream that shared this post go to the original post and i'll give you a minute while i talk about all the good that is ingress so anyways I'm gonna paste the code on that post and you're gonna have to hit refresh you have to be the first one to see it and be the first one to enter it into the application the app on your phone so make sure you have the app open and you're watching on the android authority stream live right now from the Ender thori thori megabyte file so if they're on 2d or edge um you might want to give them a little bit of time right so so I'll give you at least two minutes here right so so ingress is an augmented reality game so what that means is I'm gonna hold my phone up in front of me and I look at it and I see something different than I see in the real world such as little orbs of blue floating around or swirly portals or little resonators the little metal metallic objects on the ground they'll actually see those in front of me but I see them on my scanner also known as my ingress app so you walk around your town your city your area you collect energy and you use that energy to fuel your scanner to be able to perform tasks so forth like a hack a portal on unity you try to take over a new portal or an enemy portal existing portal all that good stuff yeah then we'll click on Scott's here to show you what it looks like okay so that's God he has some little blue dots he needs to go get to get more power um anyways so there's two factions in the game you have the resistance and the enlightened the enlightened thinks this new energy source is good for you it's go to better the human race and the resistance says oh no um the Energy's bad it's going to ruin humanity f that's there's a lot more into that there's a huge backstory there's new information in this conspiracy theories there's a lot of backstory a lot of gang war you know for lack of better words besides just playing the games you can really get into it it's really google google nanak Labs is done don't have awesome stuff to make this actually really fun she can get as little involved as you want anyways without further ado let's get to the code he writes so I'm gonna copy the code here I'm gonna paste it on the stream right now so if I'm 5555 yeah you got to remember the nexus the nexus 4 launch a f5 you might want to start doing right now and then let us know when you win just so we can say your name and praise you and post comment have at it refreshing go right so well someone is getting very happy and while many people are getting very mad that's uh let's continue on with some android news then will refresh that comment stream there and see you the big bad winner is so Android news this week android 4.2 point 1 is rolling out to devices now with more december and depending on your device there's no minor bug fixes a little bit of bluetooth fixes to you know depending on your device screen flicker so forth actually uh people on Nexus 7 and reporting it seeing around little smoother for them so yeah good you know updates are good but the biggest thing that most people really notice is December's there now the People app um nexus for it just in time for December their time it was good you know what I didn't well that's we'll get to that later ah no no we'll get to it now actually so on my Nexus 7 I decided not to a DBZ side load the update i wanted to see how long until it pushed out to me just just because i don't normally do that normally a source of downloads available i install it so the update hasn't been pushed to me yet and my birthday is in December ax my birthday's in about 12 days so I better get that update soon area not happy is it a day before mine uh mine is the 11th big guy when's yours Oh 14 14 there you go all right you give me Fresno get you a present start shopping now we needed this update yeah exactly we do this up something's actually for Scott night anyways so yeah so the nexus 4 Nexus 7 Nexus 10 all got it a couple days ago and now it's rolling out to the GSM Galaxy Nexus as well is it rolling out to the Sprint Galaxy Nexus or the verizon galaxy nexus well no because it there it's actually three updates now behind it you know those devices don't have four point one point to you definitely don't have 4.2 and they definitely don't have the one that just came out so I happy happy cdma carriers everyone Derek since you didn't get the update i'm going to give my perspective of getting the update uh the the problems that i had with it before with the four not to update arm seem to be alleviated um a lot of the stability issues that had um seem to be gone it's not restarting anymore and it's not doing things that it shouldn't do so I think it's a good update so I'm wondering now I'm wondering if the people watching you know we do have a little less viewers than we normally do this week right now because there's there's actually a Daria musk concert going on right now and everybody in their brothers watch next she's an amazingly talented young lady and so I'm sure people are watching that I mean you're gonna watch you know Daria musk sing you know you're gonna are you look at you know my ugly face and Scott I mean and John yeah it exactly right don't look don't exclude me from that club so so what we're fighting worried about how about ten percent down than what we're normally is you were wise but hey that's okay so it's always that codes out there I don't see anybody saying they won yet you know so give it to your friend your brother your sister your whatever you make in the jungle game should say it verbally and say yeah well they can say it verbally but we won't hear them so comment anyways moving on before we uh so yeah so you have those a nexus devices that have the update you can go in a tepee side load them if you don't have them yet you can install the factory images or you can wait for Google to push it out to you we run a custom rom that most of them already have that enabled so let's talk about some devices here now the HTC droid DNA the kernel source was released for that today and we know last week we talked about on the show that the bootloader is now unlocked via a nice exploit so thanks to devs you can now have a unlocked and rooted in custom recovery droid DNA and this week I said as of today the kernel source was released by HTC which will lead to better smoother faster more awesome custom roms and custom kernels so why is this good well it gives it gives you more choice if you don't like sense and you want a more pure AOSP experience so yeah this is great it's great news for developers and more importantly I'm excited because our friend Dan Charlton is an HTC kernel developer he has developed kernels for probably about 40 different HTC devices over the past couple years I'm gonna hammer him until he makes a droid DNA colonel just because he hasn't made a colonel and improv and probably a year he probably out now a public colonel sorry Dan I don't mean to shut down he makes his Colonels for himself he doesn't publicly released them anymore he's so anyway anyways I'm gonna you know hammer on him to get a new kernel out there alright so that big device announcement this week the samsung galaxy note 2 which officially launched today on verizon for three hundred dollars to 99 on a two-year contract and for those of you that don't know the note 2 is a beast it has android you know 4.1 jellybean quad-core Exynos processor 1.6 gigahertz two gigs of ram 8 megapixel rear camera and 1.9 front-facing camera now the the verizon edition has an additional add-on that other carriers do not the verizon logo is stamped right in the middle of the home button so John our buddy here actually snagged one of these devices today did I did and I've been playing around with it since i'm at one o'clock today holy review here on brett has as banded as expected samsung branded with no 4G LTE plastered all over the back just like though everyone you would ever get um general overview is a very smooth device of course every device feels amazingly smooth and fast when you first get it but um battery life is incredibly good from what I've had from it because setting the device up I had booted it up on the battery and it never charged and start about sixty four percent downloaded all my applications and synced up contacts and everything and I had about five percent battery left I had a little bit over five hours with the screen on time and that was using it the entire time obviously had this screen on playing around with an old babe um i guess if you want to differentiate because there are so many reviews on so many other carriers it does come with the amazon software suite like pretty much every verizon branded carry hey that's a new good verizon's doing now huh there there get there coming with the fo amazon sweet honey you can expect this on the DNA and probably any device to have that's not a pure you know Nexus or Google Experience device in the future to be honest would you know how many apps is that um yeah I mean are you are you going to include the samsung apps that you're not going to use in this no no no just in the Amazon sweet yeah um let me let me count for you real quick like for now it's more than four because it includes IMDb and zappos com which actually doesn't bother me that bad but as imdb's useful we cannot shout all the zappos too can you uninstall them know you can disable them like ICS so yeah you can expect the Amazon applications they're locked in the system partition it does come with the full suite of Google applications too so if you google books magazines music all that comes loaded as well then you have the samsung you know typical apps s voice and it does come with a few verizon apps like NFL mobile it does come with you know the my verizon and back up a system is built in theirs feels right until I wear apps it's you know I guess it's not quite as bad compared to the past where you had a city ID and all that other comes to ya then I love it still comes with a lot of applications / just how Verizon alright John so I guess I got a question for obviously you opted to get the note 2 over the DNA why is that where you know right now you know there's probably people watching or listening that are up for a new phone they couldn't get the nexus for that you know they're they're on verizon you know should they get the note to the the DNA why did you make your choice um the reason i leaned to the note 2 is after playing with the nexus 7 for a little while it wasn't really feasible for me to use the nexus 7 that often because i don't use Wi-Fi at work or anything like that and i didn't for like tethering off a phone so for me the screen size is a bonus i enjoy the screen size if you're debating on whether is this phone too big for you i would say if you're in a situation like I was where you had a Galaxy Nexus and you moved to it it's really not that much of a change if you're up early this coming five inches because there's a 5.5 inch display and the DNA is a 5-inch so you gotta happen that DNA is a little bit narrower I would say if you're coming from a device like a nexus or say a razor or something that form factor it's not going to shock you when you pick up the device it's going to be but it's not going to blow your mind or anything um you know because the first time I had a 4.7 inch phone I was like oh my god this is way too much but now it's yesterday i remember when i whenever their marketing is working they've conditioned us to it so so those of you that are watching right now or listening later in the week if you're on verizon and you're gonna be getting a new phone you know let us know in the comments are you opt-in for the DNA are you opt-in for the note 2 or something else maybe you're going for you know RAZR MAXX HD or sumthin listen you know why did you choose which device or which device would you choose if you were on verizon i guess the question would be and now's the time to get a device on verizon because i always flood their options around the holiday season so that's when they always get their good phone so they can make a ton of money and be a happier carrier I wonder if I have one last question so you just got this device did you get it on a two-year contract I did not I bought it at retail to keep on limited because the way my usage pattern worked out I would have ended up paying more in the long run by adopting the plans that they have there's about it's not a two-hundred-dollar difference over the course of two years for me of course i'd encourage anybody else to try out there what was the food the retail price in that 600 rich illness is 700 700 and i still saved money compared to go into a share plan so you're a big data user how much data do you use a month hmm well if i'm still unlimited don't really even think about it anymore um I can go yeah i've been using Wi-Fi more often because my home Internet's gotten better but I still stream a lot of music when I'm on the road so that's probably my biggest killer I could probably if I was frugal about it I could probably cut myself down to a 5 gigabyte a month or so pilot and get away with that but I don't really want to I don't want to have to think about it every month when i'm on my phone out where i'm just having the hassle of it alright so another device speaking of notes had some news this week the samsung galaxy note the original vog vog note had a nice leak for android 4.1 point2 right now remember it's on not ICS and it launched with with Gingerbread so this will be the second major update for the original note besides you know project butter standard jelly bean features google now it's also going to get multi-view smart rotation some widgets that the galaxy s3 has two home screen modes and stuff like that when is it gonna officially be out oh yeah who knows um you know maybe by the end of the year which is only a month or sometime you know in 2013 nobody really knows yet but soon you know once you start seeing leaks generally generally they come you know within a couple months well they don't come at all it depends on the device six months later it's still leaking and you know what see what's going on yeah let's talk about some reasons and ramen so cm10 um 10 dot one is out for the nexus 4 and nexus 10 it's doing the solo yeah soon to follow um so do these devices need custom roms i'm going to ask our viewers and if you know you know what or why they need to custom roms give your argument if they don't need them give your argument and we're gonna discuss in here while you guys discuss in the comments and then we're gonna reflect in the comments so it's got you recently were a guide and would not route all the things and do too i'm gonna say myself i'm gonna take full credit for it you know picking on you week after week after week you finally rooted your Galaxy Nexus and you're in your nexus 7 too ok so I have a view about tablets phones alright so so so you're on both sides of the block here you didn't root you eventually read your phone so the now you you're gonna be getting the nexus for what do you what do you plan on doing with that okay well that's ordered I'm have a Galaxy Nexus right now and it's rooted and it's added the routing has added a lot more functionality that I have that I you know I have my phone wherever I am so it's nice and I can have this a lot more features and more control over my device with Colonel settings and things like that with regards to battery life um that's a big thing too okay so so with you know there's no argument here that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus has battery life okay it has it has LTE lt's a battery hog and the battery just isn't the greatest thing on the planet so now the nexus 4 in my opinion has great battery life compared to the Galaxy Nexus and on tablet tablets have a great battery life too so if you're not trying to squeeze more juice out of you know the nexus for the nexus 10 what would you read either of them if either of ya yeah i think you know it probably worth differentiating because when we speak about CM or AOKP we're talking about a I'm really modified not you know not heavily modified but a modified version from what you would compile from source from google um i do i would unlock the device and keep some features related to having root access but even with my verizon galaxy nexus i really didnt toward especially toward the end when see them and this no knock it all to the dev team because i know it's hard to keep up with Google because Google is moving so fast but if got to the point where I felt like by the time they finally kind of got it stable Google would push another version of Android where they have to start all over again to merge all the changes back over again and really really since ice cream sandwich I haven't had as much of a need or feel to have to modify the devices edly its compared to back when it was Gingerbread and there was something sorely lacking and uh you know you might miss the toggles or something but their applications for and I just didn't have as much of a need for a lot of the custom features that and I know a lot of other people appreciate it but I ran bugless beast on my verizon the galaxy nexus 4 that's over a point of four months and I really didn't even flash every update he posted cuz i'm so happy with it and you know what john i tell you my thoughts on that I'm he can say it but but I'm really with you right now I'm running mozzies Rama my verizon galaxy nexus as soon as pure Alfonso drops bugless beast I know it's going to be faster than what I have right now I know it's gonna be more stable even though it's decently fast and there's no problems I just know that that's his track record because Iran jelly bean bugless beast and compared it to you know cm and i love the customizations on CM that took me many months to actually start running CM because you know out it yeah there was lag you know it was a bit was beta firmware of course it's not gonna be up too far you know but yeah it is yeah I didn't expect anything other than that upper team but and it's a different store when you're talking about nexus one then when you're talking about yeah when dogs s3 and you're having a portal whole thing over and did proprietaries compatible anyway so so me my nexus 7 i've had since the day that you could get it i pre-ordered it the moment well actually i pre-ordered it may be like a couple hours actually before the pre-order was announced because the link was hidden but but anyways that's besides the point i've had it since you could get it and i have a new one now because i had an issue with mine but i never rooted mine i ran in mine stock there was no need for me to root my tablet I mean am I gonna do the I looked into it you know I asked myself why do I want route like all power toggles I need those those like wait a second the only reason I want power toggles on my phone is to try to squeeze more battery life out of it tablets have great battery life I don't need power toggles and that's me you know I mean everybody's different so I kept my I didn't even unlock my bootloader until I put ubuntu on on my Nexus 7 you know uh I didn't need it and you know I did and that's weird to me because I'm the guy that was flashing it you know a new rom you know every week for a year with miui know it flashed two different roms and work on the clock just to have something to do you know I know my galaxy nexus I flash a lot of roms on there but now it's really to the point where my nexus for that I had for the past two weeks um I didn't unlock the bootloader on I didn't read it I wasn't going to i was going to keep it completely stock for as absolutely long as possible because i couldn't the only thing i could think of that i wanted was ad block that's you know that's the only thing I wanted to do is block ads and as I got I whatever i'll go ahead and give the you know the developers their their money you know i'll support the devs i won't block their ads and that's the only thing it boiled down to I mean I don't do the penetration testing zandt I anymore on all my devices I you know I don't need to do that I don't need to use any you know Wi-Fi sniffers I don't need to do all that stuff now and with with the latest version of jelly bean you really don't need some of the things now the quick settings aren't power toggles they're just not either they take the same amount of taps so it's really annoying i think that that's one of the things that is lacking in would be nice what Scott there's a custom rom rom I'm running right now that let's say Oh for those of you that are watching you don't try to bring this up on my screen here so all the power toggles are actually like there there's a lot more as you can see there's torch there there's uh there's the vibration that you know they've added everything that is normally there in a toggle and I and they actually work so if I any boy even like a Wi-Fi driver hit Wi-Fi gosh I'm not do Trevor for bringing that to you what's up you might want to send a shout-out to Trevor for bringing that functionality to you in your custom ramen no oh cuz I'm running in it that to you yeah yeah that's a good you could throw that one out there huh so anyways uh we've even in the fur ly about this when we move on here so well we have more thing those tiles the quick toggles they need to make them smaller they take up a obnoxious amount of space and they can they are don't make them smaller google make them smaller I'd so so let's get it alright alright so those of you the watch last week for the nexus 10 international giveaway and then watch it again and then watched over the week prior the previous two weeks prior for the nexus for international giveaway you notice that my man Scott Anderson is he has some issues giving stuff away I mean he must not want to give stuff away I don't know he so the first week that he announced the contest he he announced the code is back door instead of back order and a whole lot of you know sexual innuendos happened and a lot of fun was had on his expense so this week we're gonna be kind enough to give him a fifth try to give away a device I will not fail alright alright so on the Nexus 10 international giveaway so all you people in USA I can join the party with overseas okay so in order to enter this competition or this giveaway the link we're posting the comments Derek can you please post that link in the comment toasted for you big guy thank you okay uh this we're going to do is going to go down on the bottom of that post so i basically it's android authority calm it's the first article link on the top and you just follow the instructions for the rafflecopter subscribe follow Like Tweet to get entries +1 google+ right and then there's a section that you can enter a code for the code for this week is the code is back door okay so i'm going to work off my failure and the code is actually going to be my failure which was back door so if you just enter back door knows cases you will be good to go and you'll get another engine and that is in said no spaces if it's spelled back door as in the back door of your house um or you can yeah so moving on carrier news so across the pond over in the UK e which is the UK's only LTE service has increased their data cap which young who doesn't one more data customers there that were on a 2 gigabyte allowance will see that increased to three gig a little bit more three gig users will get that bumped up to five and five gigabyte users will have their data cap increased the whole way up to eight gig and all that your monthly fees are going to remain the same all i have to say with that is AT&T Verizon are you paying attention to what your friends are doing across the pond that's what that's what AT&T is at though all verizon's on no no III know but I think AT&T found a plan that I think a lot of carriers are gonna go to UM whether it's good or bad is it's not you know my perspective but um I think they're gonna they found a good way to do that but yeah more data awesome and so let's let's talk about little bit of patent wars there was two notable things this week in the news Oracle verse Google oracle dropped the patent infringement claims against cool um and they're only appealing on API copyright issues so that's that that has been an ongoing thing for how long yeah and that that's you know that's good i guess that they're just gonna focus on the APR they're just gonna focus you know on that but I I think that they're still you know walking away with their tail between their legs on this one so they're just trying to save some face yeah um and then motorola verse immersion so motorola is ending haptic feedback patent dispute merchants CEO responded gleefully to the agreement that both sides have reached the successful resolution of this case is a critical step in our overall strategy of enforcing and monetizing our intellectual property including basic haptics and we're pleased to achieve a settlement that is consistent with our business model which is largely based on per unit running royalties so when there's a patent dispute that is agreed upon and going to stop that's a good thing yep we don't like the patent wars and the baton wars have died down in the news and i remember those months were it was definitely blown out of proportion and there was a lot of gifts about it we'll just wait until March whenever the next major round of apple vs samsung comes to light in the courts here in the US we go about three months of slower times and then a little it'll pick back up don't device list is like a long grocery list so as our friend Dan Charlton likes to say let's get into derek's whiny time where I want to whine about yeah you know Dan I don't like that I'm not whining I'm informing our viewers of things that I'm going through the day may your one who themselves all right so last week there's on last week's with Adelaide show three days ago or four days four days ago sorry so a few days ago um I told everybody that on Thanksgiving Day my nexus 7 my beloved tablet that I used every day it died I'm willing to get into what happened the point is that it died in Google replaced it and they sent me another one I got it actually on Tuesday so you know from the holiday weekend that was nice I mean I had it I talked to them on Friday black friday and I had it on Tuesday not bad I was impressed I was happy and you know what uh it was it was like it was like taking the off of a fine lady you know unboxing that Nexus device no it keeps getting sexier and sexier every time you do it and in god I loved it you know i love it i love this tablet so one thing that did kind of annoy me know and i don't know if it was because this is a replacement unit i'll know if it's a refurbished unit or not I don't know if didn't look like one it didn't say that it was one but anyways um it was kind of annoying to go through the entire update process for every single update that is available I was kind of hoping that it would start up with 4.1 and be like hey look here's a massive update to 4.2 and that's what I was expecting or I mean I knew it was going to come with 4.2 or I was hoping it would be something different but no it booted up a 4.1 and then after you know a few minutes I was told to install four point one point one like okay yeah maybe after I get four point one point one that'll be straight to 4.2 or straight to four point two point one yes something like that note it be rebooted after that update and said hey here's four point one point two it's very nice you were going with this installs it reboots soon as the boots back up within a few seconds of signing on the Wi-Fi hey here's 4.2 chug chug chug chug chug download that big update install that update and reboot again and yeah I didn't get the update for four point two point one immediately I was I was actually thinking I would get it but i think i remember with my xoom tablet it did the same thing and never thought factory reset it back to you know pushed bone stock like whenever the i can or the first software if they update after the LT hardware upgrades i had to run through a couple of versions of honeycomb and then run through the versions of ice cream sandwich and then go now being so so so apparently the nexus 7 isn't the only one where they don't created upgrade path directly to the most recent I mean so let's say a brand new user that just got the nexus 7 this you know round of maybe they wanted the the 32 or the yet the 32 gate right and they get the 32 gig and they're gonna have to go through all these update that's going to let's go upset you know I think that's going to make somebody mad maybe I'm reading too much into it both I can picture somebody that's not to tech-savvy you know waste in the first half hour they have the tablet just installing updates that's going to be kind of annoying don't you think not only can be annoying i mean i know a lot of people that have both people that have apple devices they don't update their stow okay so i mean hi ladies will definitely benefit the user and i think they'll be okay though because they don't want to lose google maps no friend of a friend of mine oh they don't have it up because they don't even know how to do it yeah friend of Mines wife updated to iOS 6 and is furious like wanting to get rid of the phone because of it because its applications force closing all over the place and stuff just not working out on iphone 4 and as to the point that she's looking to get another phone now and so and that saves the bigger bigger complaint than anything is that they'll upgrade you to the newest software and it's slow or it's laggy yards buggy and it's I've seen a lot of people get mad about that oh yeah I got a good question for me you listener um been bagger Bagley asked do you guys see any tablets beating the nexus 7 at a similar price point anytime soon I'm getting a refund for mine since Google decided to replace my second defective device with a third one contemplating waiting for something new or getting a 32 gigabyte version for a from a brick-and-mortar store what do you guys I think that the nexus 7 wow it did just receive more storage space it's five months old you know it came it came out in the end of the end of june beginning of july it's 51 so and that's okay um CES is in about six weeks I mean if you need a tablet get a nexus 7 again if you can wait till after I mean even closer to the holidays you know when we start seeing some leaks of so something's gonna be announced at CES I agains a lot of CES devices don't get launched until the spring so you know that's another you know for for what was that droid on the droid phone that was like six months after oh yeah the Bionic Oh remember though that was ridiculous it's you know who knows um it's a tough call ah if you need to tag it if you need a tablet get a tablet you know it there's nothing worse than waiting for an unannounced device and if you do wait for CES you know that the price is most likely going to go down where you can find a cheaper one that's used so if you wait it's going to get cheaper um a two things anything samsung could capitalize on the 7-inch note device if they've ever put it on the market I think they could I really don't think if you like on I think if you took a note and put it they have to license the technology from way comps let's say you put it a three hundred dollar price range or so or less and made a 7-inch tablet with good hardware specifications it I think that would sell extremely well so if you need a tablet get a tablet if you don't need one wait for CES and check out the goodness of CES which is always fun to do yeah that's what we're going to say I think I'm gonna tempt with that alright so are you can one more Derek whiny segment and then we'll get into the boys always said oh yeah yeah one more and then we'll get into the the last giveaway the scene they will give away our second ingress ingress code and we'll do the same way just uh just because it's fun to paste in the comments and and watched you guys fight over it we're sadistic release time statistics okay so it's my nexus 4 i said earlier that i sold it um and how's that was a very hard decision those of you that know me or follow my my whiny posts about the nexus 4 artemy actually getting it know that I wanted that device very bad loves me some Android right and if you know a new Nexus device is gonna come out obviously I'm gonna try to get it and I'm gonna want it not gonna love it and it's gonna be the best thing since sliced bread um you know as Chris Rizzo said he's a android duff fan he's you know he called me an ace sheep instead of an i sheep but I was okay with that call me an a sheep I don't care so it will so I want the nexus 4 it was the best thing since sliced bread and it's a great device absolutely loved it device is amazing it feels great in your hand it's Finn it it works great it's fast it's leaps and bounds over the I mean it really is it is that much better than the Galaxy Nexus but unfortunately i live in the middle of nowhere and verizon has a strong hold on pretty much all of pennsylvania especially central PA verizon is the top dog here and 18t hasn't done anything in this area for like seven years I'm and I mean it's still edge everywhere uh maybe seven years as being a little too rough but it's it's been it's been a long time since edge has been upgraded and next week they are releasing a large amount of hspa+ to your location oh you know what and and that's fine they do that because at work which is about 35 miles from where I live they have hspa+ there and I thought yeah whatever when I'm at work I can be on hspa+ and at home i'll be on edge that's fine at home i'll use Wi-Fi whenever I Mountain about but let me tell you hspa+ and central PA is horrible a couple times I saw three to five megabit but during the day whenever people were actually using it it I'm getting one meg down I'm not I'm not going back to one meg and I'm getting like 800 900 pangs it's pathetic timo who isn't an option for me t-mobile's not here so what's a guy to do well I I try I didn't tried and tried to use edge you know and it's slow arm I it takes minutes like three minutes to post a picture on google+ to refresh you know in that next with four bars you have to have for full bars to be able to do anything with edge at least in my area if you have three or two you can't do anything connections timeout don't even work and worst of all I can't make phone calls when I have low signal and I have on the Nexus 4 and also my phone i use to test prior to getting the nexus 4 whenever i have one bar of signal which is like i said i live in a rural area that happens a lot I can't make phone calls on the AT&T network with straight talk but I can on my verizon galaxy nexus like with one bar I can make a phone call weak signal it works great I talked with no signal sometimes so I I couldn't do it and I sold the sold the phone today on sois pas I had actually never used swapper before I was you know I've sold many phones over the years on eBay I've always used ebay and I met the owner of swap at the big Android BBQ this year he actually sat beside me at the BBQ the last night they're weird and we ate and we be asked and everything and I talked him about swap and I was like you know what yeah yeah I'll give it a try if I ever sell device and lo and behold I was here to sell my nexus 4 and within minutes of me posting it and with me you know I took a picture of it today well that session a side story that's not just my phone that's bad I took a picture of my galaxy nexus with a verification photo with a coworker's AT&T skyrocket and we couldn't even send the picture to my gmail it took five minutes for the message kept timing out and we were trying all sorts of ways and finally decided to just go over Wi-Fi because his phone couldn't send me a picture that's how about eighteen t is in my area Scott so anyways I saw it on swap but it's sold within a few min um I have it here in a box already and the guy paid me the money it was extremely easy so you know I don't like to plug things that often but swap it was great for me uh I look at you know I'd say you guys if you're going to sell a device look at someone swapo in the future it it worked great for me in a few minutes I had the cash well my paypal account had the cash I'm gonna send the device out tomorrow and the best thing about it is you know they cost ten bucks to sell it I didn't have to go through ebay and and you know a whole bunch of you know selling fees and listing fees and paypal fees you know all sorts of crap I didn't have to deal with all that so this nice have a site that's dedicated specifically to that type of glass too yeah I mean yeah users it's looking for kind of perspective that woulda been I don't know how much money I've been off the top of my head I don't remember ebays fees but it would definitely a lot more than ten bucks for a four-hundred-dollar device no you know or yeah so I I yeah I said for our box being i sold it for what I paid for it I I didn't gouge people people on their listing it for 450 five hundred and fifty dollars yeah and I'm not gonna do that i paid three hundred eighty-seven dollars for the device so i sold it for three hundred and ninety dollars and i'm gonna pay however much shipping is I'm just gonna gas ten bucks or whatever shipping is so I'll get out of them I'll get out of the device would i spend on it- my $45 of straight talk so this little experiment cost me 45 bucks was it worth it yes i got to find out if i could actually use this device in my area all right so enough Derek long time I got to experience the nexus 4 while people that actually have coverage yeah so man so yeah yeah so if I was an ass I could be i could say LOL i've already used my next to somewhere and sold it and you can't even buy yeah but i'm not that and you can use it just you can use it to its fullest potential like I can't even do that I can't even I can only use it on gsm and i used it for chooses yeah but but but that's an asshole thing to do and that Derek will not do that but i will give away free ingress invite codes courtesy of jeff ribeiro alright so same thing as before so if you just if you're tuning in now you're watching on YouTube you're watching on Scott stream John's mine who ever shared this post thank you for sharing everybody should share this post if you're if you're watching on somebody else's post I'll give you a few seconds to go to the original pose to the android authority post on Google+ if you're watching on YouTube you got to go to the Andrew authority post and if you're listening while you're just listening later if your watch if you're listening on a podcast or watching after we gave this way you missed out on it maybe we'll think of a way to incorporate you some other time for ingress invites that is if everybody doesn't get them very very soon so anyways without further ado on the android authority post I'm putting the code in now start your engines start your f5 refresh is have your app open and congratulations on joining the resistance right right cuz I'm other resistance now you can go and join enlightened down really care have fun it's a fun game I it's addicting I I can't wait to go around in hack portals and capture points tomorrow night that's my plan I'm gonna go out and try not to get arrested you know walk around town at eleven o'clock at night and stand out in front of you know public buildings and know if you know and walk back and forth around you know collecting XM you know you know with like a hat you know ski mask one to keep my face warm you know eventually someone's gonna say excuse me sir what are you doing I'm just hacking the public library what are you doing me no that's gonna be a cop nothing that concerns me because it's it's got XM in places they're like oh I could get shot so wanted this way I really do want to know that I want to know it I mean cuz you're walking around and you know people are going to walk around at night even during the day you know you're gonna be standing out in front of these public buildings you're going to be getting your you're gonna be there for a while and you're gonna keep returning there you know every day or every other day or whatever you know so someone's gonna eventually notice hey there's that dude it stands here for 10 minutes at a time every day yep eventually so it's not call the cops on yeah they have landed somebody there's some exhale to be had in their value yet just just let the officer know there's XM here and the enemy's portal was here and you need to hack the portal and drop your resonators they're gonna completely understand and they're gonna uh but it's fun even if you get arrested so did anybody win that code all right so Scott do you thing here well people working snagging their code Hey look at that weight someone already won the code congratulations I'm not gonna butcher your name sing I'll quite insane all right congratulations sing let me do my thing do your thing do the wrap up I well if you 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