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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross and I am Scotty Henderson thanks for joining us again this week dan Charlton and Johnathan Franklin we love having you guys here always nice to be here alright so a lot of stuff happened this week in the world of Android we're gonna talk about some Android ecosystem stuff from stats and numbers a little bit of Google+ stats a whole bunch of Google Apps got updated this week we're going to talk about some OEM news we're gonna give away in another ingress code and we're going to talk about some carrier news t-mobile made some interesting announcements today as well as a few other carriers so let's get started to talk about a little bit of Android ecosystem news the google play store got a private channel a private section for those of you that are using google apps so this is specifically for corporate users or enterprise users in the past it was kind of clunky you know you maybe had to have an internal store or you had to have an alternate method to get your maybe custom design you know retail application or whatever you're using for your you know for your business you would have to go have go and have a roundabout way to install those so Google being the amazing company that they are today we're going to simplify this for you we're going to go after business customers and we're going to give you a private channel so now Google Apps users can install applications directly from the Play Store for their own business and said now that's that's huge really it is it allows for Google to step into the enterprise and the step into the corporate world a little bit more where they Android really hasn't had the greatest footprint for management in the past yeah I mean Google Apps is still you know not obviously as prevalent as Microsoft in the business world yet they made a huge huge dent in education or a lot of schools have moved to Google Apps for Education most because it's free yeah but this is also there for four those accounts and so for schools that are on that Sutter system students have Google Apps accounts and so this could be awake for the universities to sort of distribute university-sponsored applications that are only available to students at that university so besides universities for the corporate world where you have you know certain policies that you need to have a place in for security and you know and mobile device security because yeah you know a lot of enterprises are moving towards a bring your own device model so if you couple an easy way to install apps on your device with the already existing Google Apps device policy app that's out there yeah that's a very powerful tool I i would i'd like to see a lot of businesses start to you know to move to that i'm i'm excited to see where this is gonna go yeah yeah yeah i think they're gonna use it a lot just to strictly limit certain apps and just say hey you can install these because they're pre-approved and they will you know be okay with our network and we're good to go yeah so smoothies almost me car system news let's talk about what Microsoft did to contribute to the Android ecosystem this week it done this before yeah well wyckoff this microsoft's currently on a smear campaign towards android and google uh you know they did the scroogled thing resource kugel yeah yeah so so so this week Microsoft or more importantly Windows Phone took to Twitter and said do you have an Android malware Horror Story reply with hashtagged roid rage with your best / worst story we may have a get-well present for you basically saying tell us how Android Mauer has ruined your life and we're gonna give you a brand-new Windows Phones most likely if your horror story wins so immediately everybody said hey cattle uh how you doing I'm on the pot because you know for how many years as Microsoft has windows been plagued with malware so immediately social network Twitter Google Plus you know blew up with the hashtag you know windows rings talking about you know all the bad things that you know windows does or George or replying with the hashtag that Microsoft wanted roid rage but saying things like you know hey I downloaded this android app it must be now where it was called I know outlook.com from the play store it's the worst looking app I've ever seen he then like you know no telling how many bsod blue screen of death oh yeah I was rage tweets to work you know saying hey no I was I was trying to download an app from the from the Play Store you know I'm like oh my computer but it rebooted you know like what's this blue screen all about yeah like well it is a simple application and it installed 47 bars on my browser and they're all search yeah they're all search bars were they like I've got like a 10 pixel amount of screen real estate after my toolbar showed up so clearly question about the UH the dog in the background was at you I John I guess so would you find that dog and make it it's my neighbor's dog I can shoot it if I shoot but don't kill her don't don't shoot to kill yes you shouldn't need just issued to scare it away yeah just gonna her than me to be like it so just a little Microsoft completely backfired like I swear they got one or two I'll get the benefit doubt i'm sure they got a couple replies maybe not i personally have never heard of a android malware horror story I'm sure one exists out there there was some story I heard about of some lady whose child apparently had downloaded everything in the play store that had hello kitty in the title and so it wasn't so much that it was actually malware it was that she didn't know was going on because her home screen was just filled with all this hello kitty because it was set to automatically put midgets on the home screen there there have been a couple people i haven't seen really a lot of malware complaints as much as i've seen people would like the no education adds them a lot of people with that Rhoda Skyrim guides almost every Skyrim like tutorial application which had the notification spam and try to use a lot of ads this probably been the biggest complaint but I would really love that in with malware yeah people tend to not realize that there's a difference chain malware and add application to just add a Google is it's malicious and google has one after the developer saying this is not a good practice at all this is not something now we're evolving on somebody I saw a hashtag droid rage it made me laugh somebody uh somebody said I put I tried posting my new Android malware application to the google play store and it was automatically redirected by bouncer droid rage like we just dodged we had a little bit more depth on that story um they continued to provide steps or Android horror stories step one wait for your android phone to get infected with mad work Matt malware step to recovery from SMS scam bill shock step 3 skip steps 1 & 2 by a windows phone and connect with people you care about instead of some hacker plotting in a dank base basement now wait Windows Phone said this on Twitter yes this was actually this was the precursor before George rage yeah I think that says a lot uh just based upon not medicine smear campaign so much but recover from SMS scam bill shock okay if you as a user click on an SMS link the prophet propositions valuable deals you just need to have common sense and not have a small I'm sorry but you do not it's that's not Android you can find this SMS scams on any letter that you have MS yeah but has taken you know more priority in that and trying to prevent that from people that just don't really understand it and they're putting the block up which is nice it's a warning saying hey this might cost you something um yeah the right directs that's that's a big forgotten but in their target North American market approximately three percent of users had never been affected by malware on Android yeah it's three percent i think they kick down to like here I think the grin and again around there in total here so that would be progress I think it kicked on a grand tough like 40-something applications on like during the entire year last year so it's really compared to a market that has like seven hundred thousand applications that's not quite at all so continuing on with android fandom here those of you that want to go to Google i/o you'll be happy to know that the official dates have been confirmed May fifteenth through the 17th so here there in a few more months the next Google IL oh just look viewers and listeners know we do have an ingress invite to give away later in the show so stay tuned for that so it's a month earlier this year compared to last year was that it was no the end of June do you want 27th yeah so it's what 4-6 weeks earlier this year that was last year so so we know what are we gonna see we will see you know some more from Android at home since apparently that is now making a comeback after two years of being hiatus is it I guess you know see the next version android announced you may be android 5.0 or who cares about the version number could be version 4.9 doesn't matter you know we'll see you know most likely key lime pie announced which was teased this week via a cartoon graphic so yeah there's a lot of them you know it's way too early to even speculate at this point but it's exciting to know that iOS coming up yeah i'm sure we'll see new devices because what else is engaged the question is what are they going to be i mean i think they'll probably come up with some kind of replacement or upgrade the nexus second cuz that's what they did last year but then i think they're probably going to push into something like other areas not the obvious smartphone it out how about then that rumored 11.6 inch touchscreen laptop things like that Wow or Chromebook chrome look well look I wouldn't call it a Chromebook yet so we don't know that's good i don't want to push out something that's not a Chromebook or a android tablet or in android phone however there is rumors speculating that google is talking to suppliers in looking into having their own branded 11.6 inch tablet with a touch are not tablet up no book with a touchscreen what they have been submitting a lot of commits as far as trying to get touch interface on the chrome OS and they were all real house soon so you know we can see some type of marriage between Android and Chrome OS and the near future who knows but it lost speculation a lot of time to hash things out and try to figure out what the hell is gonna happen well I mean this if you really think about it there is kind of a merge going on right now um they're engaged because you know all the contents the same and i mean you pretty much have everything on your phone as opposed to on your Chromebook pretty much movie maybe from a google apps standpoint NE pas negating any birds and cut the rope but you know i know because i think one of the occupations one of the applications we're about to discuss a little bit later is a key to that too so alright so let's a move on here let's uh talk about some usage statistics here you know it said beginning of a new month therefore we have new use of statistics for android no surprise fifty percent of the market is still gingerbread that's unfortunate as gingerbread is old years old but hey it it's slowly getting eaten away by ice cream sandwich which is now up to twenty seven and a half percent and jelly bean which is trucking right along it near seven percent yeah that's impressive for jelly bean consider yes oh IC s was jelly bean is moving a lot faster yeah definitely definitely alright so let's talk a android related news that's a let's talk about some google the stats it was released the other day Scott okay so Google+ stats 500 million upgraded users now the definition of an upgraded user is they have an account correct well it's somebody that my greater their YouTube account over there's baby that's that's associated a google plus there's somebody that plus but somebody that Plus Ones an account on the Google Play Store a perm try Plus Ones a nap it's somebody that Plus Ones a website you know they may have created a google plus account when they turn their phone or tab one for the first time that doesn't mean they're actually posting but that comes you know that comes next in the next one of the stats then we add they announce 235 million of those 500 million upgraded users are active across Google not Google+ just Google yes and those are the people who r plus running things relatively consistently not just oh I did that once and sort of accidentally stumbled upon this google plus upgraded account but people who are actively plus wanting and reading reviews on Google Play now is tied into Google+ so anything that sort of Google+ authenticated like that that's these people yeah and then of those 235 million the 135 million of those are active on google+ so I like those numbers and I think that you know it's definitely growing and they're releasing a lot more features and things that we'll talk about a little bit about you know that tie them in better and although we don't know what's neat about that hundred thirty-five million active users in the stream it is twitter has 140 million so for argument's sake you can just say that Twitter is has the same amount of active users that Google+ those five million nothing and you can make the argument that ninety percent of Twitter are BOTS literally just riata post links yeah yeah and that's considered an active user that just auto goes things and you can't auto post on Google+ yeah so attend that 135 is publicly active so somebody is active but always just privately posting that is not counted which I know there's a lot of people to do that there's a lot of ugly share two circles I get people to at least five million to put on parity with Twitter actually two or three of you that I know that are probably watching this year stuff to me right now all the time is in limited posts Trevor oh there is my DNA thing which will talk about it all right so uh getting back to some motifs some more stats I'd so our Google+ released Google+ communities um I just was introduced to this um Derek you want explain it a little bit better all right so this is my very quick and dirty thing I mean most likely if you're if you're watching this now you've been playing with communities the past hour or so and you realize that there's four hundred and seventeen billion Android communities already available and and that that'll eventually we'd itself out and you know you'll find your niche and everything but so in my opinion this is a definitely an opinion here Google+ communities are circles to point oh I'm calling that phrase right now so initially circles you know Pete in the very beginning people really didn't what you know to use circles for so we were categorizing people on google+ um you know hey you know dan post a lot of about Android I'm gonna put him in my android circle or I know he loves Android and put me on my android circle so I have all these people that I know that love Android know they post Android software on my android circle and that's great and that's how I organize people but for reading circles aren't that good because Dan posts a lot of pop you know politics dan post thought of anything dan wants to including android so if i click on my android circle i see all of you the post your android stuff but I also see your caturday and your ginger Thursday and your whatever the hell was you know waterfall Wednesday I mean I I see everything and it has nothing to do with Android but besides the fact that you're in my circle about android so circles 2.0 or Google+ communities allows you to go to that android community where you know people were only talking about android only sharing android posts and so forth and so forth and there's you know as granular as you want inside that community i can have you know it may be people talking about custom roms are talking about routing and you know it's a forum it really is but it's it's like a circle because you can share directly to it so i think it's neat I think it's gonna it's going to create an entire new feel for for reading you know google plus you're going to have to have your circles are going to be organization but for reading you really not so much in my opinion anymore going read by circles you're gonna read by community i could be wrong on that i have a circles three-point Oh it'll be deep in even deeper into Google+ communities so let's say I have let's I have in my android circle 200 people and of those people um a hundred people are you know they post and read stuff in the android community okay if you went to the android community page show only people in your circles and you got your stream right there right yeah yeah yeahs to what though mm-hmm be nice yeah i mean that seems like it could just be a filter toggle on and off look at circle don't know and then if you want to be interested introduced to new people they're talking about android then you turn it off yeah very simple easy way you can discover all you want and you can just kind of stayed your own things if you all go to a good friend ctrl print yeah very true now i guess the next question is how soon as communities going to make it to the mobile applications now just yeah until you can really make it legit when you gonna call that yet personally i think that they need to focus on other things for the mobile app like bug fixes and stupid stuff that's happening but uh one earnest rather hold it off baby yeah i mean the reagan progress but it's just not there okay so we had a huge update for google now voice search updates um first of all it's a lot faster you guys agree with that speed increase to be honest with their all these new card additions and voice editions what uh what phone were using on um I'm using it on my HTC DNA as well as the nexus 7 okay so that might be why my galaxy nexus it's got a lot faster compared to where it was oh yeah seamless always fast on my Nexus 4 I didn't get to see it on my Nexus 4 10 to the week ago but let's get into these updates here Scott so we had a lot of new cards on the integration with Google now is increasing at a very rapid rate Google Goggles is going to die very soon and I'll get to that I events nearby so let's say there's a vikings game coming up verse the Bears that's one of the events you click on it and like local bands that are playing um Oh what else was in there I see tons of sports that are up to that an hour and a half you know two hour drive away because while having too many local teams but yeah so I see them all over a cards so how many shows things like that I'm seeing around downtown it's very it's very cool yeah um and then suggestions to help you with your research this is like you're doing some research projects for school or if you're just interested in something and want to do research on it um kind of a cool feature although the links do not open on your desktop which is kind of annoying um but they'll fix that um now Scott no now let's say so you're searching on your desktop right so you're searching about something and so suggestions to help you with your research pops up on google now when you're looking at your phone later and you're out and about you click on the link it opens up in chrome then when you get home you use the little uh you know other devices in chrome and bring that in from your phone onto your desktop computer yeah but if you share that link to your desktop doesn't work okay I haven't tried that yet another um boarding passes from gmail um United only um basically that's with a QR code yeah yeah I'm lying here in a we I'm not a baby I'll be able to tell I don't even know if it's see now to get honest I don't have my boarding pass or anyone know what flood implying I want welcome back it is United I'll test it out that is a direct competitor with apples passbook so it's kind of interesting that they're just saying hey we'll put that in our app in you know will compete with you yeah do that you know we don't even need to make a new application a little system or own we're just going to proof make it happen yeah we're just going to pull it from gmail and put it in something that is relevant and is location searched and you know time where um and then we have searched by camera you can actually search our museum shops pretty much anything which is google goggles yeah it literally is and in Google gah in Google now you can just I in the search say scam and it'll pop it up and it works just fine it's kind of cool um yeah google goggles is going to be gone here within i say six months to eight months mark i think you still have to keep it around for people that aren't all i see is or jelly bean above yeah every room yeah okay but but but it's definitely getting created entry into an existing platform because we don't know Oh yogurt you know the knowledge graph everything in me that is an existing platform yeah um whether at upcoming travel destinations I like this I'm not necessarily for travel but like when I'm going to be going to a different city I guess you can call traveling but for like a meeting it's nice to see that its location aware with where I'm going out to see yes here in another month and it knows I'm traveling based upon the email and hotel and the flight emails I have you know so it's gonna know I'm gonna be traveling and it pops up and says hey Derek out in Las Vegas it's gonna be XYZ degrees that's gonna be great yeah and then approximate monthly summary of walking and biking activity so the walking activity we did see it was orange around Halloween I I believe um and I know they're gonna do the member first it actually biking was already in there as well if you if you bike tour if you walk dear the pedometer how do you do coming if you bike or walk well oh my gosh gasps I'm gonna guess without your vest Walker but the slope deal with GPS tracking your speed and the accelerometer I assume okay intersect yeah I mean your phone has all sorts of those gyros and accelerometers and it's a little it'll let you know I'm Obama um and then another nice integration but it's not there yet is birthday integration from Google Plus now yeah I haven't seen it if I pull it up right now I guarantee you I have four or five people's birthdays right now I've got in your contacts just google plus they are one hundred percent just in Google+ yeah and that's what I'm saying it would be nice to have my contacts that are not on Google+ pulled in there as well my calendar contact calendar yeah for birthdays be nice they pulled everything um cuz there's actually people who aren't using their platform agreed but okay maybe they'll force people just use that I'm surprised they don't back-end that data point with calendar them and not with yeah but to Derek's point they do want more people on Google+ so that makes a good point right but the Google+ birthdays are already populated on your calendar making that a better data source since it encompasses all that's on google+ plus other stuff it'll be interesting to see where this goes they could definitely pull it from different areas okay ah Voice Actions got some new voice actions you can post to google+ say poised to post to google+ and then you know say whatever you want um that's kind of nice now you can also say post to twitter and it works you can also say post to facebook it does not work so apparently these are unsupported on document features that are coming in the future that's probably why it doesn't work or because someone commented earlier that that's because the facebook app doesn't work it has a bug or does sharing to it doesn't work too well or something like that but post to twitter if you have the official twitter app installed it 100% works cool um and also what's this song you can say to find the song you hear the problem I see with this it did work for me and Derrick I know it didn't work for you correct yeah I'll read about that in a second you get the problem that I see about this is let's say listening to music how is it going to get your voice while the music going and you're gonna search for it because it's going to be in the track and they're gonna pull the you know music from behind and it's gonna get all mumble jumble so I did I see a pan on how loud your music is Scott yeah I feel just shout at the phone to get down purchase list if you're holding your phone up saying what's all is this then yeah you probably need to turn down your music okay first of all it that'd be kind of cool if you're like at a concert improper it is really really really loud ok but so so let me talk about that so yeah this came out what yesterday afternoon I was like yeah slightly gonna test it out what song is this boom google search force closes huh what kind of sucks try it again what song is this in that just a minute just recycles the prompt okay just writing in English yeah well no so i keep saying you know what song is this and in every single time it either force closed or it cycled back you know like it didn't even hear me um and I talked to a few other people that had the HTC droid DNA and it seems that it is a HTC Sense issue and it's not entirely a sense issue like it sense is bad and stopping it isn't the fact that sensor the current version of sense doesn't include files needed to do that so I start thinking that's like well it's using google ears it's using you know the sound search widget basically to be able to do that so I side-loaded the Google ears APK onto my phone I said what song is this and and it worked last night interesting then and then at some point after some of the people that I had talked to they had been contacted HTC and Google I don't know if it was because of them contacting them or not but Google server side patched it that now the HTC droid DNA it doesn't do any at all it says uh this feature is not supported on this device so because I mean it / worked one hundred percent fine if you side loaded the APK but not everybody knows how to do that nor should they have to do that so Google did the right thing so their app wasn't appearing to be broken they disabled that feature server-side so even if you do have the APK side-loaded it's not going to work until until google changes and on the back end saying these devices are allowed to but i don't see them doing that until HTC decides to push out an update to include the Google rears APK yeah that also means even if you're running a custom wrong yeah yes yeah so I was talking about people buy this at all let's find Eric just run a custom wrong I'm like well it's probably looking at my build prop to see what hardware I'm running and as soon as Google now or you'll search sees that I'm using this device that isn't supported no matter what I'm doing to make it supported by having the right stuff installed it's not going to work yeah so so what am I gonna get the build-up prop to say I have a Galaxy Nexus or something just so I can use that feature that's what you'd have to do you'd have to as long as your device for quartz itself as being a droid DNA it's not gonna work yeah yeah so I would assume eventually that's going to be fixed but I mean that sucks that's a cool feature but you know what as long as I when I'm running android 4.2 I have a lock screen widget that is the sound search which is how I had it on the Nexus 4 before I sold it that's that's great you know I don't need to yell at my phone what song is this I can just flip to the widget hold the phone up and good to go I mean the better solution might have been to just push that APK as a standalone app on the market that actually is a great idea have it be an installable app google ears a new google apia and a fad if that can be done like that and that would be great i think that that's actually the easy solution right there google bunny ears um ok moving on google voice had an update it fixed the delayed SMS notifications and it fixed the inbox sinking in duplicate notifications thank God it was fixed it it was terrible for the last time since I used I gotta know I get a notification that have like a 180 something text messages from someone so what we get from this is we know that they get the bug reports and they get the feedback so they're listening but there is not implementing what we're asking they're just fixing things so add some other app updates uh you know I said this this week was a google app update not nothing uh nothing really major besides what we talked about a Google Authenticator had some but bug fixes and UI improvements I didn't notice anything boom you know um you'll translate that's minor updates yeah no minor updates you can now translate text with your camera they took it before then they got mom more languages ah I think YouTube for Google TV had an update no no updated changelogs we don't really know exactly what but hey it's probably bug fix my or improvement whatever you know we like we like to minor improvements that's fine Dropbox you can move files and folders that's an awesome update something that was lacking on before also performance improvements chameleon launcher Victor des hommes put up a I think 25 they're looking for 25 beta testers for their phone application there and they already have all them all the testers right now um but I'm kind of excited to see well they do this in future updates before we get us think yeah it should be interesting I mean I think they really hadn't gotten the third party involvement in the the widgets that they really need and I think being tablet only is limiting for that so hopefully going to the phone little things move along phones are definitely a bigger pieces apply as far as getting adoption so yeah and uh going back to google voice eric hoffman doesn't make a good point he says that they think he thinks that they're in a fixed mode only because they're working on their consolidation of coming gation apps into one which I really really hope so Eric I really hope so I think that's probably what you want to see yeah I hope a lot of time and development is going into that it's just it's definitely a problem yeah uh gmail you got a rather nice update for ice cream sandwich and up you get autofit messages to screen and you got message zooming swipe messages to archive or delete you can specify what you want to do in settings and the general settings I could attach photos and videos from within gmail larger photo previews which is nice because you can actually tell tell what a photo looks like um and gallery view for photo attachments just like you would see in the gallery app it looks exactly like that for the attachments and then bug fixes performance improvements for android to not to and up I get new label API for AP is for third-party app developers and performance updates good update what you guys think data I haven't found the zooming toward the bench to zoom it only works on html5 if it's an image then you're not going to zoom in on it because a lot of like a lot of my verizon emails and stuff will actually be a just a gigantic picture yeah you can't zoom in on that okay so it's not just me um wasn't that all it's an update for beautiful widgets no jelly bean compatible and lock screen widgets yeah Tasker got on Tom so I not Tasker tasks uh by the tasks team got updated to allow 4.2 lock screen widgets as well and that that's awesome i put them on my Nexus 7 and it works well ya know they're really nice job if you're not familiar with this app I shared it uh maybe even today when they updated the app it dumb it's a very clean holo light holo UI and it integrates 100% syncs with google tasks and said it's very clean very simple you should check it out they have a free version and another version to cost 99 cents enjoy developers featured them six months ago or so I said Google made a task app that's exactly what it would look at before light because the money so let's let's talk about some device in OEM news here real quick so no surprise the nexus 4 keeps selling out and LG says because there's a huge demand though their don't want to tell us how much demand that is they're not good as in this house yeah they do also mention the fact that you know they have to supply too many different brick and mortar you know companies and you know so the demand is spread but they said a large portion of that is from the Play Store and I can't you know I mean that makes sense because it was a release their first so well head it was cheaper there than anywhere else kind of moron goes in case four hundred dollars per phone that you can get over there for three hundred dollars very true problem as you can't get it over there so it worked out well for people selling it for 400 yeah and then I Qualcomm is to bring low low cost low power NFC chips next year hopefully and if you're low pile I'm confused about the low-power NFC though so NFC now uses more power than it's not something that's very low power this next generation a chip is shrunk down from 4228 nanometers so right there you're saving a lot of power oh we're talking about extremely low power versus pretty much you could run it off of rubbing a sock a pair of socks together wait well with at me three hydrogen next version of android charging around rubbing sauce powered gotcha static pass static electricity powered versus battery-powered yeah yeah I'm talking about dropping it down to connect snuffing power which means that you can have NFC base stations that are just running on like a watch battery yeah and really live that your checkout counter and the big news really about this is is the low cost because a lot more phones not just the the you know high-end phones but a lot of the lower end phones will adopt this because it won't cost that much to implement it so Google's push for NSC I like it and this will definitely open up space saving is a big argument too because you know even you take a phone like the iphone 5 with are crammed in so much stuff in there when do you put an extra transceiver in there that's also you know probably a reason why they didn't put it in FC radio and they start 40 nanometers for it mmm so you strike it down a bit a little bit it opens up some flexibility or you can just you know save space and decide you want to put a bigger battery or whatever yeah I mean that that argument doesn't carry as much weight when they're making no I see but with every other component you start adding it up so let's get to a little bit of LG news here and galaxy tab news then we'll talk about the ingress invite here um to last little bits of OEM news device news this week we had some leaks and who doesn't love them some leaks Daniel talk a little bit about this s4 processor uh that was leaked to become it with the LG so all we know is that it's called the LG e960 for AT&T it's got the same s4 pro that's in the optimus G and Nexus 4 let's go scream right and it's gonna have a lot of Marvel collect an 80 screen which I suspect is in the 5 inch range ah so it's gonna be a little bigger than the GAO msg or the Nexus but it all to be 1080 like the droid DNA so no idea when that's coming out or you know anything more than that really um and then the galaxy tab 2 10.1 is finally getting jellybean 4.1 point one so only slightly behind but better than the ICS had yesterday alright and the last little bit of information here the galaxy tab 2 10.1 is finally just jelly oh ok so that was a pay attention be honest with you is knows talk to my wife you know I was telling her goodnight ok so the moment you've all been waiting for the ingress invite code um we're just good we're just going to do this and cause a whole a whole bit of frenzy here so each week we do a little bit differently give the ingress invite code way this week is actually thank you to Scott Anderson he's given he has an extra code to give away so thank you Scott so we're gonna do is if you're watching on YouTube you're watching on my reshare Dan Scott's whoever somebody's reshare will give you a few seconds here to go ahead and go to the android authority post the original post and while you're viewing that original post you want to scroll down to the very last comment because i'm going to post the ingress code there wow you're going ahead and finding the original post those of you that are already there I want you to pull out your Android phone or tablet whatever you're going to use or Jordan Dirk's or the HTC droid DNA and open up your anger SAP and go ahead and go to the enter passcode the enter activation code screen and I'm going to copy and paste this in there and you guys can fight over it and uh congrats to one of you lucky winners and I just ask that you please let us know who you are so we can congratulate you as well so people can be people can be upset with you that you want and they didn't so the big question is is are you going to join the resistance or are you going to join the enlightened let us know alright so I'm going to put the code in there everybody should be everybody should be waiting for it and refresh your engines now start mashing that f5 like you're buying the nexus 4 or you're getting the new communities on google+ so i'm assuming right now you guys are frantically typing that code in Y for f e kz6 g congratulations to the lucky winner for ingress let us know if you're a member of the resistance if you think XM is bad for Humanity and the shapers are bad or if you are the enlightened than you think that this is the evolution of humanity then to death or if you will you're one of those people that just want to get invite because you want to sit yea orsa oh yeah you just you just want to invite so you can say you're cool you know all right so uh just like about some carry your news dan since your rock and timo I want you to talk about some some TmoNews for us yes so they have been rolling out hspa+ on their pcs their 1900 megahertz holdings so updating basically from 2g to 3g which you know sounds silly winner it is moving to elderly but the the background information on that is that they're building the LTE support they just haven't sort of turn it on and enabled it yet they're now up to 18 markets that they've pushed it pushed out hspa+ over pcs so that's 18 markets that the iphone will get high-speed hspa+ on t-mobile instead of getting slow speed edge on t-mobile ah and speaking of the iphone t-mobile is apparently going to start selling apple products in 2013 as well because they want more market share and they are losing the battle yeah yeah yeah I'm not saying they wrong with that you gotta do a float you know nominal although the executives have also said that this is a their deal with Apple is a deal unlike what anybody sort of expects it to be and since on a way to sort of is hinting that they got a very favorable deal so it sounds much more like t-mobile is new t-mobile's been planning under in the spectrum reframe a lot of people trying to pitch it is this is what they're doing it just to get the iphone but realistically they're doing it so they don't have to carry a 2g network around anymore because you know we're all rolling out LTE who wants to be dragging this edge network around I think the apples partly not really in this big of a piece of place of leverage like they were when they only tried negotiating with verizon and you look exactly it's Sprint's been a ton of money trying to get adoption and it helped them a little bit but I don't even know if they've recovered the initial investment they won't until like 2015 and are planning to and t-mobile's not ready to take that kind of a hit and so they're I mean they're in a position where they can say you know what we already have a million iphone subscribers that's two percent of all t mobile subscribers are using unlocked iphones they're upgrading the network either way so you mean they can very much you just go bulk buy iphones from directly from apple like any other consumer and then resell them and cost as unlock devices so Apple really just doesn't have the bargaining power against t-mobile that they used to so yeah they're getting the they're getting the iphone but yeah it's it's sort of as a fringe oh yeah we can now support the iphone you know uh AT&T is planning to roll out LTE uh and fans yeah 13 yeah so I mean you see that article bumper Eisen and there are speeds that they were testing and theoretically with their like 500 mega bits like that's ridiculous oh yeah no LTE advanced is substantially faster it's also worth noting that's what t-mobile is planning on rolling out like in the first place okay so I time I'm freaking excited about it oh yeah I just that means people once they were all out there LTE is they're going to have hspa+ 42 as their backbone so not falling back to cdma like you do on verizon or to a teenage comparatively slow hspa+ or to sprint cdma but falling back to 42 megabit hspa+ and then on top of that you get lte-advanced that already has built in all of the support for transferring voice calls handoff directly from voice over LTE to hspa+ to gsm I really really really hope this type of technology shakes up the data costs um but I can also see it as they them keeping it the same and just taking advantage of a businesses why do you use an expensive landline now oh we have the same speeds if not better and you can be mobile while using it well I see that you know them making a lot of money off businesses in regards to that oh yeah I mean you're still gonna have problems because there's still you know very high usage people that just can't afford to drop down to a five megabyte gigabyte a month like the limit that they can afford really I use anywhere from one to two hundred or even three or four hundred gigabytes of traffic a month on my computer I can't like I couldn't possibly afford a verizon LTE plan that do that I don't think verizon if you had the people that do landlines I don't think they have enough spectrum to honestly support that like a landline and not anywhere near that to be it would be great for mobile businesses that likes constitutive of the construction science and places like that would be continuous pretty cool and pretty much kill your home I mean onto your own business end process I haven't have yeah and think of pushing that to be in your battery couple minutes but yeah um AT&T also added six more LT no markets they're playing catch up very slowly but slowly but surely I always you know that and this is LTE towers that they're running out rolling out dan those can be upgraded to lte-advanced pretty easily is it brand new hardware yeah okay yeah they are building day and Verizon both are building on release 8i the first release that is considered lte-advanced is 10 that's what team levels rolling out sprint results using 8 I think I came over with verizon or sprint that's been some other things to take some parts of the further up releases out of it um but ya know they're all gonna have to do actual physical hardware updates at all of their sites ok it'll might be it might be more or less a firmware update but it means going to every tower and physically making changes there at the power so ultimate ultimate lemoore investment for the upgrade as opposed to a simple switch yeah ok so slower all wrong yeah yeah where's Brent sprint with their network vision has planned ahead in a way that makes it very very easy for them to make those kinds of changes because they have a very modular sort of structure to their network now and t-mobile in contrast is just going straight to the higher release so why not US cellular is testing voice over LTE yeah there's been a lot of speculation that that's very bad for battery life yeah I saw some studies don't know it and it didn't look very good no I mean it's not surprising using LT your young builder I mean it's very young so I mean yeah I mean it's not surprising that voice over LTE is is battery intensive because anything else ever LTE is battery intensive currently um are they when they're testing I haven't looked a lot into it but are they using a higher I'm sure they're using a higher bandwidth with America's one of the big marketing pushes for voice over LTE is getting a clarity yeah I'm all better clarity and over our slider a typing side plate 256 kilobytes ow that's nothing for an LTE network yeah that's this so i would i would imagine that in order to get the audio quality up you don't need to push the bitrate that much so it wouldn't really be that much of a data intensive there would be no reason to pull a can make a bit or a one- you know bandwidth for a you know voice line you know send a WAV files over threat i mean you wouldn't even video chat yeah that's true on the dish is rumored to cell phones at blockbuster yeah we heard rumor don't understand that at all well dish is continuing to try to get into the mobile market I don't really know how they expect to sell phones at blockbuster though that's so strange more power to them but I'm sing like one blockbuster store and the last year yes I've singles SQL than saying this because Italy knowledged I think black monster is gonna see its its end before the end of 2013 mark my words okay Dan eat your time to rage you love raging so later I do so there's been tons of articles in the news but lately about this android engagement problem how android users don't use their browser because android devices are just so complicated because you know apparently using a browser is hard to do it's difficult on android because it's more android e unless browser either than anywhere else I don't know the bottom line with this is well everybody is freaking out about how oh man android has so much more market share and so much less browser share what's wrong why don't people use their android devices what they're not following up on that is android users use more data so clearly they are using the internet more they're just not using the browser so if you're using your facebook application for example and not facebook com in the browser that would be you using your device but not browsing well that's another big problem every every browser on iOS reports as being iOS every browser on android does not record as being android the stock AOSP android browser does some OEM replaced browsers will Chrome for Android does not firefox for android does not I don't know about dolphin and opera I think opera actually just reports generically as being WebKit which then usually gets reported as being Safari I mean they're in the amount of browsers that there are four android is ridiculously awesome because people have so much choice and it's so hard to compile all that data of so many different types of have a lot of those a lot of those Android browsers report as being iOS and then a lot of them refers being a desktop browsing client plus Android browsers will let you actually actively go in and change your browsing clients you can switch between iOS Android desktop and various others so you know i would say probably half of android devices aren't reporting as being Android devices when they're browsing I think another thing they're taken to account of some of the restrictions because apple doesn't allow you to do things like it out purchases so if you want to buy a kindle book you have to log on amazon.com and go buy your book and then open up your application to sneak out whatever book you just purchase and although it's just like Amazon are forcing you to go through the browser do it because they're don't want to get Apple a kind of the sale or you have to do certain things if you want to share a news article with an application that's not baked into apples hard coding you have to open in a web browser you have to copy the link and you're going to home and you open up app and make a post from there she said I'm just hating a share intent and so much stuff that you have to do through the browser and iOS because you can't just do it natively yeah whereas an Android you can let one application talk to another application you don't have to go through the browser that's a lot bigger usage scenario that I think a lot of people take into account because most most people just you know most people on the phones are there reading news articles they're reading books or managing media or you know shopping that's about the extent of what the average user does yeah I think about that that's really good really good claim I well I think that about does it for this week um I know that last week we didn't have a SoundCloud posted or audio posted apologize for that we had some technical difficulties um large part was Google was 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