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Android Authority On Air - Episode 43 - Christmas Giveaway Special

2012-12-20
welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross hey I'm Scott Anderson we're joined with Johnathan Franklin and Dan Charlton for a very special Christmas edition of android authority on air we'll be giving away 5 google play gift cards worth ten dollars each which will have details for later in the show they're going to do with ten dollars i do with ten dollars on google play or just ten dollars in general on the postal on the place where i was gonna say well if it was just ten bucks i go by two beers but uh um alright so so ten dollars in the Play Store you know I'm trying to think of us an app i want to buy right now i can't think of an app that i want to buy but there's definitely some music I'd want to buy or a movie definitely I yeah I would use to buy us some content I wouldn't use it to buy a game or a nap at this time I'd like to check out that new reader app oh yeah okay well we'll talk about that new reader app maybe a little bit later on the show cool cool all right let's talk about some Android ecosystem news here and then we'll get into some apps and devices as well as some carrier news and routing and ramen as usual and we'll we'll wrap up as we always do with some patent whores Apple got smacked in the face this week and it just makes me smile all right so uh so let's start out our christmas edition show here with some ecosystem news like I said so Google Play is going through upcoming 2013 deals or end of the year deals or into the world deals depending if you're thinking that's gonna happen tomorrow either way there's there's a yearly wrap up / new year beginning deals going on right now so at least until the first of the year there'll be every day there's a new new way for you to take advantage of google play there if that's a free app or if that's a an indie lap such as an app you use the free app to look for hotel and they gave you a $35 you know credit towards that so there's everywhere everything changes every day there's a new app or a new giveaway new deal every day so that's great that Google's doing that they did something like this last year and I think we're all hoping for a ten-cent app days well that was that was nice yes I love more of those I bought tons of apps I know you know it for ted says monsters by mall he's good it adds up there you end up spending a few bucks it's good it's good like ten dollars over the whole course yeah so uh musicmatch is now available in the US and this was rolled out recently in the UK and and what musicmatch is it allows you to do the same thing you always did is upload your existing content to Google Play you're allowed to upload 20,000 songs they already have in your existing class free but net yet for free as Scott said but now it happens faster so does it really actually upload faster no not really oh it was actually upload yeah exactly well it only uploads I guess if your song isn't found on the Play Store yes which yeah the library is still growing so there have to be some songs that you know doesn't match what happened that I know is not on the Play Store yeah so I'm sure all of us have some songs that aren't on the Play Store so songs that you do have that are on the Play Store they are automatically added to your cloud storage on on Google Play so the new matching feature scans through your song that says hey this song already exists you know so it's going through Scott's yannis albums it sees it seems that Jonnie is all available in the Play Store I'm assuming it isn't a place towards this bad joke and it uh anything and it says L Scott you're yawning is already available for you to start listening to and you can start listening to it automatically and then you can stream it back to listen at 320 kilobits per second now here's my question so let's say upload a song that's 128 kilobits per second and let's say it gets matched to Google Play content okay and Google Play content is 320 kilobits do I then get the opportunity to download 320 so basically upgrading the bit rate on the songs that i have i believe so because the the content is is said it just really just matches the song it doesn't generate repair on your bit so let's say let's say you ripped and ripped music yourself or you got it from another provider from the bowels of the internet however you got it let's say you know you have some skips and pops in your song for whatever the reason you're not going to have those anymore because your song really isn't upload it's just now available to be streamed so that that's nice if you don't have a greatest you know quality music collection and you know a year and what has been like a year and a half since the music first came out and was it made 2011 something like that I remember it took me like two days to upload 10,000 songs you know I it took forever so so okay I'm not a big deal then since then I've been slowly adding music to that but you don't have to spend days doing anymore it's just maybe only an hour half hour a few minutes depending on how much music you have that isn't available so that's nice with regards to the 320 kill but nick says on Google+ that you can only stream at 320 you can't download it 320 I'm not sure he said you only stream yeah so I mean I just covered it as well as keying what um like what is the download rate at that is that whatever your original one was what if you don't actually have the original file on your hard drive how do they know or what if you uploaded them you know of a very most mp3's nowadays or vbr variable bit rate so what type of feeling mean like that's actually a very good question ah I haven't redownload any of my music I've never had a need to personally I didn't have my originals I mean I know very little of my music was probably at 320 kilobits but I mean I don't have the to compare you know what I recently formatted in put linux men on my system I don't have my 10,000 originals either I don't need them that you know what the Nick I'm gonna I'm gonna check i'm curious i'm gonna download an mp3 or two after the show or try right now either you might give my band was for the show dan the right thing to do would be to allow them to download an inequality because I mean technically anybody that would be uploading or anybody they would have mp3 files on the computer to begin with probably ripped them at some point from a CD which the city is higher quality than 320 or 128 or anything so it's why you do flat right well I mean no God Google servers you know that they have that it would go crazy if it was flag oh yeah it's something for us to look into a little bit more obviously we'd we don't know everything about it that's a good question so so let's uh let's talk about some Android malware fud dan you have some information on that force barely there's a mud slinging going on earlier yeah yeah so there were these big estimates that if androids gonna get 18 million devices affected with malware in 2013 and this is just so much malware yeah that's really only about 1% of the devices Android device is expected to be on the market just remember there's 500 million half a billion we're a half a billion right now and they're expected to sell a billion in 2013 so this that's a that's not a big deal I mean it sounds like a lot when you look at actually how many users or how many phones tablets actually exist it's nothing and when you compare that to Mel hair in Windows for example that's nothing I my works me as basically if your OS X word that they found if you just compare that to the percentage of Apple machines at Apple's headquarters that were infected you're looking at more problems in apples ecosystem than on Android yeah and yet everybody keeps complaining about Android has the security problem just be a smart consumer in you will be safe yeah the only place with no tomes is in places where you're buying it off a black market so don't use a black market another thing is the ones that are really leading this research our antivirus and anti-malware companies they're trying to sell you something yes the ones that are primarily pushing and claiming the majority of the exploits or potential exploits and security flaws are the ones that are trying to sell you software so you have to take that into account too because trend micro has been a really big one it's and the antivirus companies are really dying out yeah monetarily so we're starting to realize that it's not about having hantavirus stuff bogging down my system all the time it's about me not clicking on stupid links all right so let's talk about some app updates here Scott you are a resident app update guru you want to hit on some of these for us I love the app updates you know when I wake up in the morning and I don't see that there's an app that needs to be updated starting off on the wrong foot starting on the wrong foot all right so we had a google+ app update allows the communities feature it's in right now my personal opinion is it's an overused feature that just kind of is there in my stream it's going to get better moods which are little like blobs that have emotions I guess that's the best way to describe it I don't know really what they're called but uh they you can post them to whatever mood you're having I think it's a pointless feature um and hopefully they replaced the moods with something and moods when you post them their gifts and you can see them moving in your stream on mobile tablet or on your phone and with that could have been used elsewhere yeah um but you know yeah you gotta show how you're feeling I guess turning this into you know that F word um and then basically there's a bottom bar it's black and colorful um personally I think it's ugly and it gets in the way when you're trying to scroll down swiping up and yeah I don't think it it gets in the way I actually like it down there versus being up top because whenever i am swiping down you you don't really swipe up that often you're scrolling down your stream you're eating so I like it being down there I don't like the colors I mean I know their Google color to just be it feels out a place with the rest of the app wait you you swipe up no no no no no no you swiped from the bottom to the top to see the older pulse what as I'm scrolling down swiping down whatever as I'm looking at older posts it disappears as soon as i go to swipe up it it appears yeah but let's say you look at a post and it appears yeah and you try to swipe down again and then it gets in the way i think i would agree with that yeah i don't know why it's there at all i don't know why it's not unlike the hidden side menu yeah i don't i don't hate it I like it I like it being the where it is versus where it was at the top I didn't like it's easier to just tap it with your thumb now you need to make a post I do agree it is easier to tap with her thumb anybody not like like Scott said that I don't like the colors only well they're pushing for hollow you know kind of monic tones colors really against it for how the guidelines you not I mean it's they won't they want the action or atoms to be relatively subtle like Dorian Gray mono you know flat gradients not a lot of you know iOS looking kind of things then you put these applications out here is ugly yeah it is fugly yeah yeah so one thing though that is nice about the app is moods right i mean that's the best feature that was at it like you know it's neat but I'll give it that I'm not a fan of my spacing Google+ is it cool that you can add a mood yeah am I ever gonna do it no and I really hope that if I have you on my stream you don't show me your moods all the time in see anybody moving yet I did it to this video i have not mooted and i will never mood same people mood but i have mooted myself i saw a couple people do just to see what looks like any know and that's okay but something that'll see it all the time man i blocked them immediately it's not i I'm not mean I'm in the Christmas spirit I will not block you if you give me a mood unless you mood all the things than I'm like you guys haven't noticed our attire is green and red um because of this holiday that's coming up I don't know festivus I think they go fast yeah festivus uh well and what we're going to do we're going to talk about the pole and we're talking about our grievances and the show won't end until one of us gets wrestled to the ground and then we're going to talk about our moods together in a circle a circle all right so uh so yeah so moods yeah let's move on talk about some more apps here hi so the Amazon mobile shopping app got updated basically gets 7 inch tablet support which is nice it's moving in the right direction nexus 7 definitely looks nice um got some bug fixes able to see wish list so things related to your wish list kind of cool I go if you want to use a your nexus 7 to buy a Google+ Santa gift for the G+ Secret Santa you can do that since you can view wishlist I do like that so let's talk about Isis mobile wallet and Google Wallet uh if you remember about honestly two weeks ago I could be wrong on the time frame recently verizon released a statement saying that the reason the google wallet is not supported is because google wallet uses the secure element on the phone and that is proprietary hardware and it is not part of the OS it's not part of their radio communications and therefore verizon thinks it's bad and has no access to it and will not use it however screenshots of Isis being installed have been making their rounds this week and whenever you install Isis the mobile wallet from verizon uh basically the exact same thing AT&T and t-mobile it says hey look whenever you install this app this app has to have access to NFC and the secure element hmm so their argument last week of the week before that said Google Wallet couldn't be used because it uses secure element was complete and utter crap no it was it was more crap so so Dan what do you what do you think of it I mean I know you know a verizon customer but but but you're you're usually creatures Verizon t-mobile just risin though it's erica me mobile too yeah and they're the three of them together making themselves a lot of legal problems because right off the bat the three of them together are colluding to block a competitor know what they're doing is they're buying time for themselves to release an okay app and get it on all their phones and then eventually they'll let Google do their thing yeah that's the effect of all the action what's going to happen the practical impact of what they're doing I'm talking about like the legal ramifications these three companies are illegally colluding I'm talking the exact same way that Apple and the book publishers were illegally colluding this is against the law for the three of them together to be doing this and then for them to block it for such superficial reasons and then turn around and do the exact same things they're gonna start running into huge antitrust problems all three of them together and they're so big that they can do it no because Google is big enough that they can raise the stick especially while the FTC is grilling them and pour it for two years they've been under investigation and they will have no problem turning around and saying I'm sorry you just came off this investigation and pretty much let us walk away with a self and post slap on the wrist and this is what you're letting our competitors do really yeah it will be able to well for verizon and AT&T and t-mobile so what these prints has not been particularly favorable towards do you know our stance on on Google Wallet Isis debacle secure element gate let's call it that secure element gate so what let us know in the comments if you're watching or later when you're listening but what do you think of this you know is is this you know it's verizon's it's a tease it's t-mobile's phones they can do whatever the heck they want with them or is this pretty much the exact opposite of what Android is meant is you know an open operating system if this was you know I could see this being okay if this was an iPhone because it's closed but entrance you're more or less open so I don't agree with it so let me know if you think that we're nuts or if you if you hate this as well so what's why you're yelling about this I think we have another another honorable mention for an app update we uh we love it when apps get holo holo we love it when they get updated to the new you know android 4.0 or 4.1 higher design which is uh you know hollow getting rid of oh yeah we don't need to get into hall you know what hollow apps are so ESPN decided to hollow all the things on their scorecenter app so that's cool alright so let's get into a Google Play gift card giveaway here so here at Android authority we are going to give away five google play gift cards this evening during the show each gift card is worth ten dollars and you will be given a code and you can then use this code to buy whatever you want on the Play Store as long as those items are accessible obviously in in your area of the world so to get started are there things that they can't buy well if you live in an area that doesn't support movies are Google Music I mean what's the point of buying music or you know the movie which that you know some content isn't available everywhere so obviously if you only use it for content that is available in your area um with that said so for the Christmas edition john and i got our christmas hats along with john and i are a giving mood but you know we got Grinch Grinch green dan and Grinch green scott oh i guess i'm wearing green too all right so anyways over so we're going to ask five questions throughout the show a couple of the questions or Android related so anybody can most likely answer them and then we're going to ask a few other questions that are pertaining to us the people that are all here every single week so that those of you that watch the show weekend week out these questions are for you or our fans that are tuning in all the time you'll probably get these answers so what I want you to do the same as we do in all of our other contests I want you to find the original post find the original post on Android authorities Google+ web page and don't go to my reshare of it or Scott's or somebody else is when your buddies we're not watching all those reshares we're only watching the comments you know we're not watching the comments on YouTube either we're going to make this as easy as possible to determine a winner and to help help you guys out to to make it easier so we can give you something so find the original post and start watching here so um whenever we ask the questions you're going to then comment the first person to comment with the correct answer suppose that will contact you after the show most likely tomorrow since that it is late and evening and tomorrow I will contact you and give you your code and then you open up the google play app where it says redeem or you can actually even do it on the website too I'm you can redeem a code you put your code in you get your 10 bucks you buy whatever you want ok so now giving you guys a few seconds here enough rambling on here the first question for ten dollars of google play credit is named the month date and year that google acquired android for example july first 1773 which obviously that that's that's pretty accurate yeah so so said yeah month date and n year what month date and year did Google acquire Android and our and our yeah yeah young remain ounce yeah you don't have to give us the hour cuz I don't know I don't know if I'm sure only a few people actually know that all right so uh what while we're waiting for an answer let's talk about another google app update Scott which one we are talking about Oh Loretta redbox instant redbox instant um all that I have another one to talk about that I got a little beef on being a winner already i'm gonna interrupt you Scott cuz I'm a jerk I see Steve Foster i think is the the the winner you go first winner august seventeenth 2005 it look let's verify that on outside the comment tracker here that's it yeah all right okay John let's keep 2005 somebody could not follow all right so Steve Foster ah i will contact you and get you your code tomorrow I set up a show to do tonight and all the prep and everything I will definitely contact you uh I will contact you on google + 0 + mention you and give you your code ok all right let's move on and talk about redbox instant and then stay tuned uh we're gonna give away uh for more in a little bit I'm excited very good Merry Christmas steve-o you get that free money solid explore just got out of beta I thought that he likes alex Florida I really do oh yeah yeah that's all sir than I said okay so uh redbox instant it's a service from verizon and redbox it's basically a competitor with Netflix eight dollars a month from minute streaming and for physical one night rentals it's an invite-only beta right now and it is available for installation on the play store and to any rooted verizon users you are destroying the network but streaming movies is not yeah so what's great is verizon axes unlimited data because that's bad and then they come out with a new day too hungry service mmm seriously theorists go to the top um been with consumer in the United States of any service so yeah yeah yeah yeah the real problem is gonna come when they start not charging you for data over their service that's true and only like only data from Netflix or YouTube goes to your cap but if anything from redbox is totally free because you pay for verizon yeah they could do it one of two ways they could do it okay this service this unlimited streaming service for our content is going to be free to you no monthly fee but free but you will pay for data that you go over or they could do it and they could say hey this monthly fee is cool but we're not going to charge you for data using this app so I mean they could do it a couple different ways right now they're else you know what maybe it'll be something like if you agree to have with verizon logo watermark and all your videos in love if oh come on verizon those good thing they just gave me LT in my house i love rice and they do great work nobody cares all right so hurry up let's move on you know even wanna give what give me more Christmas presents here alright so let's talk about device is up so the Nexus 7 I want to say one thing hold on google maps for iOS was downloaded 10 million times in 48 hours does that surprise anybody know people don't want to die in the outback of Australia and they say good things I said iOS 6 adoption jumped up like twenty nine percent yeah that one boy rival map service comes out boom people install I left six I saw actual statistics comparing Bing and Google and Apple maps and it's shocking how bad apple is just shocking in the US it's not as bad apple will get you the right place about 71 percent of the time compared to 88 from google or 86 and then in the UK it's 88 for google and like 50-something for apple even in the u.s. when you factor in the margin of error means you're three times more likely to get a bad like a dress from Apple maps then from google maps three times more likely it's terrible and the u.s. is where they're the best the rest of the world they're even worse all right so uh let's talk about nexus 7 here so I was saying the nexus 7 got some interesting news this week um earlier in the week we saw a official nexus 7 doc get unboxed in Japan and a few days later today the official doc went on sale at B&H for 40 bucks is it showing up on google play no is there any word from google about this no but it is the official nexus 7 doc and you can buy buy it in now and it looks like shipping availability begins December 30th so I don't know anything else besides that ah oh it it charges has USB port and audio an audio jack now standard no there's no speakers you know it you know it it's just it's just a doc you place it in in the landscape noises their talons right well one would think it uses the pogo pins because it has a it has a USB port in the back for charging so I would assume that it uses PO gopher for charging you to set it down in and charges but you know we don't really know since it's still very new I'm not a family I don't need one for it all right so we had some had some interesting rumors about the HTC m7 as a successor to uh to the One X to the 1 X Danny won't talk a little bit about that yeah so it's supposed to be another 4.7 inch device just like the One X also with an LCD to display except this time it's going to be at 1080 instead of 720 so it's even more pixel dense than the droid DNA which was already like 414 so this is in like the 450s probably range so very pixel density it's also rumored to have a 1.7 gigahertz Qualcomm quad-core Snapdragon s4 processor and a 13-megapixel rear-facing camera together with a 2-megapixel front-facing plus their image sense chip so it should be a very good camera so i got if the rumors are true this is going to a very very good ties that's a kind of you know i think big screen sizes too small now talking about pogo pin charging we saw a little bit Nexus 10 rumors leaked this week nexus 10 pogo pin charger is basically just a little clamp that just clamps on the bottom knob if the image is correct if the image is real the leak said it was going to cost roughly 20 bucks and be available online stores you know for like twenty bucks like on Amazon we don't really know anything else it's a leak it's a photo online and it seems to be legit I don't really see the point of it um I but hey it's a different way no has to use the properties because those things have been pretty much useless to this point and say you know yeah it's on it's a nexus accessory so we don't know anything about it you know until boom it just shows up somewhere magically um moving on us sell your owners rejoice if you have a galaxy s2 from Samsung you are now giving ice cream sandwich on your device that is a jelly bean said the ice cream sandwich ice cream sandwich came out 14 months ago and you are now getting android 4.0 point form congratulations you're still behind you know i'm i try to be sorry not to be sarcastic about that because an update is an update it's a great update you know you're getting some nice features uh but yeah it's really far behind that me an update an update and that's good you're on four-point-oh italina at least but project butter is really the thing that people need if all basic phones got project butter and be awesome would be sweet you know their UI experience would be increased a lot he was from gingerbread ICS it's a lot to as does his shrimp you still got that you know lag and Brenda ICS from a like technical standpoint is a far more difficult hurdle than I see us to jelly mhm egl drivers already good so uh let's talk about another phone that's getting android 4.0 that is needed for eons I hope we move so the HTC Thunderbolt verizon's first 4g phone supposed to be getting android 4.1 HTC said this on twitter so soon in soon plus android updates plus verizon plus HTC equals who knows they saw it in Tommy so Thunderbolt owners your phone at this point is gonna be ready for an upgrade very soon but you're gonna have an update coming out even though your new 42 is already coming up in like months from now if you were perfect get that phone I i really wonder why they would push an update to a phone that is probably lost and you know had a steady declining of users that actually on the phone why why waste your time yeah people to still have it not one that still hasn't he's livid and maybe it is rising just doing it to say hey we do support legacy devices probably restore the wreckage eric i don't panic hurdle for that for months well you know what what what uh never mind we're not gonna give we're not could talk about that so you've got a kernel for that phone from thunderbolt fries yes yeah well you know what Dan that actually brings us into the next segment of our show giving away an google play gift card another ten dollar gift card so if you're watching right now make sure you're gonna comment on the original post on android authority and cat you're really knowing me I'm sorry my cat keeps jumped up on my lap ah dan I need of a micro kitty like you were so uh she's not in my way alright so speaking of Dan and the fact that Dan develops kernels the question is for ten dollars of google play credit what is the name of Dan's kernels for example Francisco Franco his carnal is called franco.kernel what is the name of Dan's Colonel you have to get it spelled correctly is it called Dan's Colonel rose is it call him see Colonel for charlton I do knows so what is the name of dance Colonel go Edna and comment it has to have Colonel at the engine just let you know you don't have to say Colonel just latest word the word of his crown if his colonel is called cool cool kirtle you don't make hurdle just got a winner yeah we got a winner yo Ben Bagley been Bagley come on down all right congrats been I will be contacting you later with your ten dollar gift card Merry Christmas thanks for tuning the show uh-oh what I by this is actually pretty funny one of my iphone buddies now one of my close friends is actually watching the show right now and he messaged me Sanders you know Colonel Sanders he see that he doesn't he doesn't get if he doesn't get Colonel's he has no clue where talk fascinators memes that leads to baby needs to start baking Carl's together and calling it that I think it's like it sounds legit yeah alright so so let's uh let's move on to some more are more two more device news now almost done we'll talk about something else I so if you like Google TV or you know you're on the fence about should I get one should I not get one we have two things with the vice news today one the Hisense pulse became available for ordering today the Hisense pulse is a $99 google TV set-top box um similar to the vizio actually looks almost exactly like the vizio the you know it but it's made by different manufacturer but but it is but it's a little bit different the the remote control has a microphone in it the co-star does not so it is google TV version 3 ready I'm just nice and if you're not aware for in version 3 of google TV it allows you to do voice search so you'll pick up your mic and say you know uh Batman Begins and you'll find a it'll find that for you so um the remote has that feature and I said the co-star does not and another big differentiating feature is the Hisense pulse has the IR blaster built into the actual set-top box most Google TV devices have that but the could the co-star it said the device that it looks similar cost similar to does not the costars IR blasters are in the remote it's what exactly does that mean for a lot of people won't mean anything won't be a big deal but for a lot of people it will be IR blasters allow you to control other devices so you can control your TV your you know your DVR your cable box whatever and Turner dropped out do you have any idea like how good the Hisense is in comparison to say the physio or the I'm not that familiar with that new device but I know that the update for the video was awesome it's definitely a lot faster than what it was before uh Derek you agree with the vizio update yeah yeah the vizio update is I definitely noticed faster menu performance stability I never really had a crash or anything like that our apps crash but except for plex plex crashes all the time I uh one bad experience that with a visit visio it got in a continuous loop of me trying to reboot it and this app just kept dying interesting well the it's faster now I can definitely tell the menus are faster the UM the overlay it's itself is faster you our blasters as you guys finish that up at all or no no all right so real quick the IR blaster so if you have them in your remote now that works great so you can control all of your devices as long as you know your remote is pointing out all your devices why would you know if you're pointing it at the TV all your devices are going to be out there and we got to control them where this comes into a big deal is if you're using an app to control your TV so if you're using like the Google Play I'm sorry the google TV app or you're using may be able remote or something like that and you're trying to control your TV your remote has to be pointed at your TV anyway so you have to have an out on the coffee table and then you have to go into the settings on the co-star and say do not put my remote to sleep basically when it's not in use so it's always running always using battery so there are workarounds in it you can get it to work on the coast are but most Google TV devices have the blaster the you know communication device to your other devices built into the actual set-top box you don't have to do that um big deal for some people not a big deal for others anyways 99 bucks you can go ahead so you can go and purchase that today um you know how I I snagged one I'm gonna have to google TV boxes in a pulse in a costar saw I'll give my thoughts here in two days when i get 10 which one you think is better well which one do i think is better now when you get the oh yeah yeah i'll definitely taught me depending on the overlays Chris if you know the stock versus overlay you know their implementation of it yeah I'll I'll definitely talk about it and give my recommendation definitely also uh yeah let's uh let's let's move on to some OEM news uh Dan I've been yakking for a while you want to take it over sure uh so apparently HTC in their continuing financial woes is canceling a bunch of devices we already heard they're canceling of Windows Phone device most because of Microsoft's low standards um but now currently they're canceling several Android devices and trying to kind of refocus we heard kind of the same thing from them last year and it didn't really pan out they ended up releasing a whole slew devices again this year so hopefully they can get it together a little bit more and keep the you know the m7 is sort of the One flagship everywhere and then you know push out one or two other models beyond that and really get it together they want to really really put the focus into making blockbuster devices which for them their biggest problem is advertising so that's that's good because it means that you know your few things to advertise for and then in other news Samsung Exynos processor specifically the Exynos for apparently has a security flaw in it that basically you can exploit the security flaw to gain access to the devices ram and then from there you can do continuing late more malicious things and basically take over the device so definitely a definitely a flaw definitely bad definitely a simple fix in terms of coding essentially just a particular permission is not set appropriately in a particular place so I have to do is change that and then it's fine the problem is obviously getting updates out to the public is slow and so now that there is very public information about this definitely if you have devices with the nexus 4 and that would be in the US the Galaxy Note 2 internationally the galaxy s3 and I think some versions of the galaxy has to have a dual core Exynos foreign so both the quad-core exynos floor and the dual core X notes for are affected by the issue so if you have one of those and you're rooted you can very easily find a kernel developer that is going to incorporate the patch and get yourself you know an updated patch otherwise it's probably going to be a while for samsung twirl it out to you internationally that's a little bit easier so fortunately most of the affected people are international in the u.s. Galaxy Note 2 owners should be watching out for for problems with that and then in more processor news Tegra 4 rumors of leaves so in videos next generation processor is rumored to be a quad-core cortex a15 processor so twice what the the samsung exynos 5 is together with a single core a5 cortex a5 processor she's the same four plus one set up that they've been using and then their GPU which is based off their new desktop GPU line I think it's called the Trinity GPU but for the their arm chip it's going to have 72 cores so what that says for actual real were real world performance remains to be seen but it's definitely going to put a damper on Apple trying to brag about a quad-core GPU now um then aou is a display manufacturing they're going to start shipping AMOLED screens the first company other than Samsung to ship these types of displays and HTC quickly bought them all so definitely look for probably too low to mid-range HTC's using AMOLED screens in the not-too-distant future in a little bit more news Imagination Technologies who makes a lot of GPUs they make the power VR series that the iphone and a lot of other high-end devices use are trying to buy miss who make processors for about a hundred million dollars and so that it looks like they are trying to move into the full-on system-on-a-chip marketplace through mips intrusion that's interesting yeah and android runs on myths already and there are a lot of popular very low-end Chinese and Indian tablets using mips processors they are very popular for mixes of devices here in the US these are reduced this drunken set architecture that doesn't cost as much to license so minutes ya know it's it's definitely a promising architecture it's usually used for a lot more sort of intermediary processing tasks the sort of behind the scenes things that people don't think about actually having a processor type applications so i don't know how it will go definitely didn't have options there though they got bare chested in tow I listen let's move on here talk about routing and wrong in for a little bit and then after this segment will give away our third google play ten dollar gift card here in a few minutes so on the root and rom in front CM continues to CM 10.1 all the things right now they have a decent list of devices that are getting nightly builds one of the nicer features that is available right now Lisa that I think is the quick settings quick tiles update or enhancement I guess I'm really not the enhancement that CM added so right now and Android 4.2 quick tiles are pretty much just shortcuts I honestly don't see a whole lot of a need for them besides seeing the current state of some of your you know some of those things you know if they're connected or whatnot they're just shortcuts it's very cool i love them but they take the exact same amount of clicks or taps to still disable or enable Wi-Fi you still have to flick down you saw off to hit the Wi-Fi shortcut then you actually have to hit the button to turn it off it it so it's a shortcut the same amount taps so it very cool but CM improved upon it so now the tiles are actual toggles and then they're completely customizable to you there's a list of maybe ten fifteen different toggles you can choose from and then you can rearrange them in the order you want it it's very nice I like it um i wish i was able to do that on my DNA that's another story so let's get into what is available right now on CM 10.1 with nightly builds remember nightly builds are you know kind of like bleeding edge roms you know there might be a few things uh not working or might be buggy whatnot but yeah you know flash of your own risk anyway so all variants of the galaxy nexus have CM 10.1 as well as the nexus 10 the next is for the seven the next 7 3 3g also the trap next in the name and not followed by one it's got it yeah yeah pretty much else no the nexus s does not have it poor us or the fort nexus s 4g so anyways a the transformer pad as well as a transformer pad infinity or the transformer infinity have CM 10.1 and then a whole mess of Samsung devices as always so we have a samsung galaxy tab 2 7 point 0 the tab to 10.1 the verizon 10.1 10.1 Wi-Fi uh and then a few models of the original samsung galaxy s a few variants few models of the s2 and then a few models and variance of the s3 so there's a lot of Samsung devices you know that got added the past week and I'm sure as time goes on more and more get added more more get more stable yada yada yada and as always the rule of thumb with the signage my team is no no ETA so you know it's coming when it comes whenever your developer your maintainer you know does his thing so let's talk about a new touch recovery that made its way to the world this past week most of us probably use twerp or which is team win open recovery project and then there's clock pot the original popular guy from couche so what the what he does use right now what do you what do you a fan of dan what's your what's your recovery of choice i used for but then again i know most of the developers that were gone so yeah you got a you guys support your buddies right you somewhat so John what do you like you a clockwork guy or a tornado normal come on twerk come out here a mano are a guy huh amon-ra remember that oh yeah well from its are haha i was i was said are a god I'm on Raw oh okay well that makes sense now yes before we lose sense okay very i'm an idiot from time to time so sorry John what did you say you grow you remember that used to be for EXT recovery to remember yeah I would say much out of it lately but yo yeah I've been on a I've been on tour and I don't have a huge recovery preference or you don't necessarily need touch or anything but it's it's fast it's efficient and it works nice so I haven't had any reason to change it I uh I liked work how about you Scott I talked to it's simple and means yeah I like I like touching on others clockworkmod touch but clock or touches Bugsy though but but the touch it's it's the touch it was added to a scroll in her face you know what I mean it yeah not the exact same thing just blown up four fingers yeah yeah I really like TWRP I'm a fan and it's in it's you know it's completely open with with goo manager it allows you to do a lot of the things it you know you don't have to have a certain application bought and installed to be able to use to access the API is it it's not like it I said then again you know a lot of people like clockworkmod because it supports you know an insane amount of devices to us oh that's quite a few like want my old HTC she's my wife's old HTC incredible sitting right here it has it has a clockwork model on you know hmm there's at work for it there is whatever better up they've met why should be a public one I might have a test build of it still have your private build only the old day might still have a non-public tour build up incredible one all right so uh anyways the reason we're talking about recoveries is as a new kid on the block all cannibal open touch recovery um it has the standard things you can't expect in the touch recovery you know there's theme support touchscreen support obviously it says touch in the name has button so you can do back in advance backups user-defined backup locations like I said standard recovery features that we've all come to know and love over time it only supports a few devices right now because it's new the developers plan to support additional devices in the future right now it's just on the nexus 7 the nexus s 4g the dink the HTC droid incredible we were just talking about it's on the epic touch 4g the kindle fire the optimus s V & M so um I'm sure maybe they've had another device or two since uh since I actually looked into it but yeah so what right out of your devices supported and let us know you know what you think it's definitely an impressive list and there's a lot that are sort of easy pickings from there that got incredible getting the evo and the nexus one and the desire is minimal work all right so uh we talked about Google Wallet earlier let's talk about root and rom and so if you're a if you're rooted user and you have a galaxy s3 getting google wallet to work was kind of a pain you had to do a whole bunch of build up prop at its and I'm constantly changing Google wall to work and it was kind of paying the but it was hard not really it was just a paint you know who wants to go in and edit your your build up prof unless you're on an it dot T looking for you know speed to enhancements right and say hey it's something you're always going to do so whether there's an app which honestly it could be removed from the Play Store already i assume it'll get removed eventually that's just my guess like I could be wrong other anyways there's an app that's on the play store that does all that for you don't have to manually go in and edit your build.prop to get you know doesn't yeah to get Walt to work to fake it into working it just uh it does it all for you now so it makes it easier for you um if it gets room from the Play Store you can still snag it from XDA what's that what's that I assume its root only yeah yeah could you have two errors I doubt that'll get pulled from the Play Store I wasn't doing anything illegal all it's doing is changing a setting and it dad it you know it downloads and installs a wallet for you I mean I guess for a long time there is a google wild installed on them either yeah so let's get into what I voting a nap they can't possibly fault that all right almost see let's let's give away another Christmas present our third google play gift card this card is gonna be nine dollars and ninety-nine cents no mom it'll be ten dollars but it is actually about my friend Anderson who has been with me for almost a year talking about android on hangouts as you realize in another couple weeks this is episode 40 39 weeks nine and nine weeks and they had two months we will be at of a year of doing this that's crazy to think about right now alright so in the year that I've known Scott he fought tooth and nail about not wanting to root he didn't want to damage his phone you know what damage is tablet yeah he he was under the impression that he could damage it yay yeah you could if you really try really hard um and eventually the darkside got to him and he decided to become a fan of routing and roaming so in the comments on the android authority post on Google+ of you just joining in us now I want you to tell me the very first phone that Scott Anderson rooted and what is my rom of choice for that phone you don't it's not a part of it that that's a bonus point and the only thing you get is gratification that Scott Anderson is your peer oh yeah the main question is what phone did Scott root first and for bonus points what what Romney running now or what rom did you run first whatever what rom did I run first and stick with ya gotta know you stuck with it I thought you were sticking with the thing that Adam and I'll give away her I can talk about my salute soon we have a winner already a winner yet the way many Scott Anderson fans oh I think we have a winner John says I I previously had an incredible oh well he didn't have an incredible you had a home with my previous phone you're the droid x but but and he currently has the galaxy nexus so i'm guessing we gotta give it to John uh wait a second there's some any further up who said what he rooted first Ross tuner Turner excuse me okay the comment tracker just refreshed for me John posted before you ask the question oh I'm sorry yeah I was ignoring John's post as the yeah were you asked the question oh and then that's what he actually posted again his actual real answer ok John you done screwed yourself yeah yeah just okay so who won Ross Turner right Ross oh great I don't see how Ross Turner one I don't see Russ turn almost yes and John says so too okay alright so let's turn off your watch scott why I see you and that's all it matters so Ross wants to go to Turner I will get a hold of you as the others and then bagley got it right Galaxy Nexus aokp with a question mark but you know take that question off ? off and you'll be right what's a interesting enough is you he must stalk you well enough to know that you did have a okay p there you go Scott I'm just kidding I'm just kidding been um kid all right so uh congratulations again Ross I like your first name my last name glad you want I merry christmas and i will get a hold of you later with you coud I mean where we got I can't blame after all good I need to hurry up well we're really dragging the show out tonight right so uh we got two more to give away let's just burn through some carrier stuff for public wireless ah they're awesome because they're doing things that other carriers aren't they know that data and phone calls you know are two completely different animals and they're tying it all together with Wi-Fi calling or date data calling and saying that we're going to give unlimited calling unlimited the data for very very cheap prices and do things completely different than other carriers and they're also not okay with rooting your phone they announced this week that we saying that they've seen a flurry question the comments now that the service is live and they want to give some answers in a bit of context the burning question these days is whether to root your phone and are they okay with rooting your phone and they said no when you agree to the Terms of Service when you join republic Wireless and if you follow the Terms of Service their Terms of Service says that they can terminate your service at any time for any reason so if you root your phone and they find out about it I somehow uh they can terminate your service they can that doesn't mean that they will yeah i mean verizon isn't okay with routing and that's why everything comes down to the spa yeah but just be aware that they can but that doesn't mean that they will so just know they could yeah but but it was I mean it was interesting to see here you're just come out and say that though you know a lot of you know no carriers really say don't read your phone yes they do well yeah that's it spread t-mobile and AT&T say the same thing you read your phone we don't support it don't support us warm rubble is completely different than we could terminate your service yet they can still terminate your service mmm-hmm how's it going I like it well either way we don't work well some of us don't walk into the place expecting to get technical support on your rooted phone we're probably okay and that's pretty much that that's pretty much the case anywhere you don't you don't work in your Galaxy s3 running cyanogenmod you're probably my racing okay for some reason like you drop's data yelling no I never Google won't work on my galaxy s3 what are you doing you know um so uh so we have republic Wireless so what do you think of well you know their take on on calling you know they're doing something completely different what do you think about them Dan Scott john looked into what yeah i mean i like they're trying different things and I'd like that about carriers I lie so he's an old son you know don't a pitchfork come yet just because they said no to rooting you know I mean they have some good stuff yeah I like that yeah I just don't think it's particularly well implemented or it won't be well I'm implemented until you networks for bigger better stronger faster no their problem is that they're building this particular the problem is they're building this on the back of sprint's network and on when I say that I'm not actually saying anything bad about sprint's network cdna does not handoff to Wi-Fi like that it just doesn't and so they have to build a very specific device with a very specific radio that can make that work and so that's why it's only like one crappy little device and it's not a big enough carrier to like get good devices because nobody's going to go out of their way for republic Wireless if they were business on the back of a gsm network that handoff is built in natively that's why t-mobile can do it because all you have to do is turn it on right like Wi-Fi calling is not new it just doesn't work with cdma yeah all right so let's talk about sprint since you were mentioning them yeah Sprint is rolling out LTE and six more play miss six more markets and expanding a few that they already have which is nice and they're also buying the rest of clearwire's so the other 49 point something percent that they don't own for some 2.2 billion dollars basically this is a big spectrum grab and so Sprint is actually I think it could be one of if not the largest spectrum holders in the country in a while in outright own spectrum because they have all the items bactrim they have a huge chunk of pcs they have all of this clearwire spectrum at 2,600 they've got a lot of spectrum well really utilize them now speaking out for scripture to back it up yeah speaking of rolling out LTE you know every carriers that's what they're doing nowadays except for t-mobile um next rides and Verizon did the same thing you know for verizon uh had 16 more markets they're up to like 470 markets or something like that now and they also expanded on other markets as well enough for a fact because I have able to get in my house and I did not have that before so speaking of me having LTE at my house and using it that leads us into the next giveaway this is a once it once again the last couple questions haven't really been so much about Android but more about you know us the people on the show we want to give back to the people that watch us or listen to us from time to time and our fans of the show so this is this is my question actually John Wayne asked question about you will like you that's all yeah we didn't mean I'm just here for you guys yeah yeah yeahs scott and dan and I here for you done Johnny's not he's just I'm so alright so Derek's question is what phone am I currently using as my daily driver first person to comment on that wins ten dollars of google play credit the first person to give the name that Derek often uses for it on this show the bonus bonus when I gratification yeah to win danza gratification what do I refer to this phone as and comment refresh go looks like we have a winner oh I'm assume people know that I call it the dicks that's grown as close to know I'd say so Trevor there is a stipulation on this the HTC DNA is correct but we can only give play crafts people that have working phones at this time whoa now it Trevor actually does have a working phone his uh he had what like what a horrible sad version of an android phone do you have since you broke your nexus 4 I guess I'm like it is something like crap box phone that he had is like all right so yeah so the HTC DNA is right HTC droid DNA now I would have accepted that as well or the droid well actually the droid dicks to actually doesn't make any sense because the D actually stands for this but uh yeah so the deluxe of became the dicks the DI AXA DLX yada yada yada so we're gonna stop saying that one day yeah so HTC DNA Trevor experiment releases Trevor I will I will give you the code even though you're using some crap box phone right now since you are getting your nexus 4 fix next week basically Trevor's a rom developer oven it t he flashed a new nightly onto his up phone and it bricked it and he couldn't even get to work again he had to get a new one if factory images for that know it fast but didn't work oh yes amen Trevor does like down to the metal box and everything this is not just a rom it Elizabeth it's basically like a new phone alright so we all one more giveaway let's let's do some real quick patent wars really a real long show tonight so then go so apples a big pinch to zoom patent was preliminary struck down by the US patent and Trade Office is one that Sampson was found in fringing on in 21 out of 24 devices and because the jury did such a horrible job and actually explaining with after they came up with the numbers they put down it's gonna be really hard for the judge to walk back those damages which clearly ought not be paid for a patent that wasn't valid without actually having a brand new trial for damages so more problems in the Apple Samsung case including judge Koh ruling that apple will get absolutely no bands or injunctions on samsung products so suck it Apple Apple quickly appealed in european news though Samsung is withdrawing all of its injunction requests against apple and then strangely the EU is apparently investigating them for antitrust problems of requesting injunctions against other people's devices for patent infringement which they're no longer doing so bad timing um google apple and research in motion free strange bedfellows are coming together to by about a quarter or about a half a billion dollars worth of kodak patents which is good news ricotta because that covers most of their outstanding debt and is good news really for all smartphone users because hopefully it'll be less patent crap to do with camera patents ah is that really what's going to happen i mean it is a gun on me like Oh everybody's got enough patents and then we can't really know the three companies together are bidding on them so all three companies will basically share ownership of that you're bigger than pretty much so also they'll all be using the same patent in the first place so you can't sue and say oh you're infringing on my patent because your patent is my patent okay interesting so that'll definitely undercut some of the camera patent wars for smartphones um that's good for the rest of these real quick here dancer yeah google lost a I to see judge meant against apple on a proximity sensor patent but there's still a bunch more pending there and the FTC case against Google looks like it's dying which was quickly followed by Microsoft doing a whole lot of whining Microsoft has been whining a lot lately lot yes what else they gonna do design of a phone operating system oh yeah exactly I like I want them to succeed but they're not going to okay we ready for the final question of the evening is this for a yeah this is for our fifth and final ten dollar google play store credit once again comment on the original post yada yada like all the other ones and if you already won you know you can't win again that's that just wouldn't be fair right unless you change accounts and you comment with a different account lies don't do that alright so I'm just gonna go ahead and give the answer or the question way now so you don't scream that right so so so the the previous three questions have been about us on the show minus John who don't like him the very first question was about Android um so the last question you know if you're new to the show you really don't know who we are that's that's cool too so we're going to give you a chance to win something so very simple question if you fall Android you should be able to get this without having to look it up what is the name of the default font found in android 4.1 I'm sandwich is still there in 4.1 and 4.2 what is the name of the default font found in android 4.2 that 10 times fast and we have a winner was it it's John levski for real this is gie boy hair oil this time I've been trying to get in there again for a second way you often do a thing like this and totally redeem yourself all right John congratulations sir looks like refreshing your browser refreshing the stream fixed it for you so congratulations again I will get with everybody that one I added you guys to a circle I will notify you each individually have all your names like i said and i will get you your coats and you just open up the google play app words on the website and enter your redeem code that i will get you anything else Scott John John I have a question for you since we stop this we snap snubbed you what question if we had a sixth card to give away what question should we have asked Wow no although the pressure maybe maybe that should be maybe that's an eco speed you could be a wrong question because I'm basically just all right so I'm stocks okay but you do it let's do for Johnathan Franklin bragging points what tablet besides the nexus 7 did he get for free at the big Android BBQ what talent did Jonathan Franke one two tablets he won one from XDA Developers courtesy of Adam Adler he won 20 courtesy if one Android guys yeah a droid guys okay Android God courtesy of Android guys the nexus 7 he won that the next morning what was the first tablet to john 1 what was the name of it we can post a review link of the tablet yeah no I cannot help you know close and personal yes do happen well Pope will post a review like oh how I still have the tablet it's in the back seat of my truck right no nothing anyway to drag it in and show everybody oh oh Trevor Trevor vas wins the dark and Franklin award goes hashtag in just tag actually what was its real name called it's like Android touch or oh oh my god I've seen those a serious snub all I know is on the front of the box it had hashtag Android like that's that was the biggest graphic on the front of it like an actual hashtag hashtag no no symbol oh yeah and they're gonna be actual bottom yeah assume that at CVS the hashtag and yeah dream dream I think it was a naked nap or something like that all right so Scott working everybody find us and watch this beautiful christmas edition I'm you going to android authority calm scroll down the bottom right there's an on-air section every post every show is on there also you can subscribe to our YouTube channel right now we're not posting on the YouTube channel but we had some technical difficulties so this will be on the YouTube channel and then if you want to contribute to our show or ask questions or get some free stuff like we gave away the night follow android 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