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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross and I'm Scott Anderson and we're joined with our favorites and stands out here we can say favorite our favorite is a favorite android guru Johnathan Franklin what's going on man how's your new years we're Goodman we're quiet really good how about you Scott do anything exciting for new years this year yeah I just hopping from place to place um it was an eventful um and forgetful um night that's good you know you think I'll be having a very important question they'll do you remember seeing the ball drop no I have another important question so since the ball drops an hour ahead of time what do you do to give like your own ball they're like what do you do for new years in central time um we just wash it on replay it's pretty sad we have to watch it on replay cuz it happens more than once so oh alright alright so I I honestly hope you're joking but yeah but even if you're not we're going out so um when did you guys have any new year's resolutions yeah I haven't done that in years okay well my age people they typically make it new year's resolutions trying to better themselves um and litter your social networking feeds about how hard it is to lose weight oh yeah yeah we need to do that yeah I need to make a star to lose my grinding my legs are hurting so bad right now all right so on the Android news front we're going to talk about some CES information some CES devices that are most likely going to be announced next week or once a we at least would hope and think are gonna be announced next week we're either i am going to be there a whole bunch of the android authority crew is going to be there our commander in chief Darcy gonna be there Derek Scott's gonna be there um Clayton youngberg is gonna be there Josh think gun Nate's gonna stop by at least the last day Christophe he's a writer for us as well yeah there's gonna be a lot of us there we're gonna blanket CES with with our awesomeness arm we're gonna bring as much Android news and videos and articles and comments as we can to the Android universe to be a lot of fun we're gonna decal we're going to learn a lot we're gonna do a lot of interviews actually Darcy's been hard at work setting up interviews of the past couple days um then uh then we're gonna party in Vegas in the Ignite I've never been there before so you know I hear uh here you know what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas oh I'm looking for I'm kidding I'm kidding honey CES I'm excited you know every year we have a CES and we have something to look forward to um hopefully not that droid phone that was released like six months after which one with the Bionic all the bad one yeah all right so CES yes we're gonna talk about ces stuff in the next week we're gonna have a CES recap but this week we're in hit up some ecosystem news as always we're gonna talk about some apps if you device updates and vulnerability patches talk about a boot why from Canada we're gonna talk about ubuntu phone uh and uh yeah a few of the things in the root in ramen world I'd so and next show is gonna be on a different day on a different time yeah yeah so CES is a all week long so instead of having the Thursday show and you know missing all the good stuff from from thursday and then plus i'm traveling thursday so i won't be able to tell you about all cool stuff i saw so we're gonna actually do the show on friday night next friday so those you that watch us live check us out on friday and those you the follow us after the show I'll need of YouTube or SoundCloud or wherever you find us on the interwebs will probably be a day late there as well so we probably reach those places to maybe saturday which hi saturday if you're listening to us now anyways wayne like that alright so let's get start with some Android ecosystem stuff so gingerbread is finally below fifty percent it's been on the decline for a while it's finally below fifty percent as of the end of last month the end of the year which it which is nice you know it's a two year old operating system it's about damn time jellybean is finally in the double digits at ten percent whoo uh-uh only one percents rock the only one percent rockin 4.2 though but which isn't bad i mean the only thing on 4.2 is nexus device there's nothing else or you know if maybe if your law custom roms I guess do the factor that in yeah yeah it's your access in the API you're accessing the play store with oh there's a those versions I'd so uh credit dilly beans growing fast on ICS was it was it there is it yeah because ICS was my thing the benefit is a lot bigger with roots to performance and butteriness wild ginger bread ICS is more drastic than us yes to jelly bean if it is gaining traction faster I would say that's compared to the success of the Nexus 7 you know those things that you know tons of people have those uh maybe that helps out a little bit yeah donate release some numbers like 4000 some like that what sold Nexus force vectors for ya we'll talk about that a little bit I love it that's a number yet you love numbers all right so so dan murrell he's a big badass in the Android world if you don't who he is should check him out he build Android for a very long time um and he long enough that back in Oh was a 2000 the I'm not even gonna say the year cuz I don't want to get it wrong so many a year ago before the bugdroid was the official mascot dan was doing some doodles and he came up with four different dan droids as people called them a red blue green and yellow dumb robot and they all had potential to you know possibly become the bugdroid mascot apparently um but but uh obviously they did not he posted images of those on his Google+ account the other day and it's pretty neat one interesting fact that he he talked about later in the comments was these robots uh well he said that the initial internal developer launch was called r2d2 which stood for release to developers to it was the second release and developers so right around the time that he put these robots out now as the r2d2 internal version so that's kind of neat um but as you know Android decided to go with sweets and desserts for a naming scheme because they couldn't use robots as the Android versions because well those names are trademarked so yeah we can't have a data you know we can't have an r2d2 we can't have a how a bishop um any other robot named that you can think of from sci-fi movies and shows and whatnot anyways um moving on so let's talk about Android communities Scott how many Nexus or Android communities you part of on google+ Oh a couple oh good thing about communities is unknowable they haven't really ever find it yet so I'm in limited amount of communities right now how about you John are you and a lot of communities for Android or nexus devices Oh Nexus not some not as much as I used to man I do follow or Nexus community by Muslim tolerant and no two communities now but not correct well I'm in way too many communities um I was in over 60 beauty well I was in over 60 now I'm thankfully in 40 I'm gonna hopefully get that down to like 10 maybe but uh I left a whole bunch this past week because the Nexus now has an official supported community well what does that mean who knows but it's an official nexus community like likewise this an official android community now so i was in a bunch of we know i was in the nexus 4 owners but you know i'm not odor anymore i gave it away i saw with it I was in the galaxy nexus one when I was in a nexus 7 1 I was in the nexus one and then our good friend Randy Kelly actually started a private invite-only Nexus owners 1 i'm going to stay in that but all the other unofficial nexus communities I left because I yeah I think eventually people will flock to to that Nexus community so if you weren't aware it's out there it started about a week ago less than that um that it's the official nexus community so it looks so far you know there a lot of people are posting their it's so pretty popular so you can want to check it out now not so much Android ecosystem related or Google related but it is noble related so we're going to talk about this just for a second um an honorable mention as we know next week is CES well the ctia and mobile con are other shows a little bit smaller a lot smaller than CES but they're the you know they're popular shows that you have mobile technology android devices in and so forth they decided to join forces to create a super mobile show and oddly enough Scott guess what the name of the show is called super mobile shell my goodness no way yeah so um you know uh quirky uninteresting names aside it's a super mobile show called super mobile shell and we'll see it a thick in there to try to spice it up alone yeah Emma Virgin Mary I mean maybe they could call SMS you know super mobile show but people get that confused with text messages yeah but uh yeah so we have to wait a year to see the first super marble shell but well when I don't know when the data is but will happen in 2014 so uh let's talk about some apps a couple weeks ago on google+ I said tell me the apps that you can't live without and sorry about that sneezed um we had a bunch of people comment listing their top apps that they use it to top apps they couldn't live without and that's a little different than what Google's best of 2012 apps were so just as a recap I'll ask what you guys think and then viewers and listeners that are watching right now let me know you know if you think this is on on the money these are the apps that you can't live without to or if there's something that should be added to this list so anyways we asked people in Google+ and they responded on letting us know their apps that they can't live without and oddly enough Google+ was the number one app because you know we all asked on google+ I'm sure if I asked on facebook facebook would have been the number one I guess uh they suppose F is horrible I don't use facebook i don't know right so now the number two most popular apples google now which we know is actually just google search but everyone was typed in you know a google now which that's great to see a lot of people actually you know using google now in love and loving google now it's great i use it every day um you know i mean it i find a new use you know for it all the time traveling with it is amazing it said if you just use it locally when you get wait to go out of state you know vacation or to see yes next week i mean is it's awesome i love it especially for traveling so a swiftkey swiftkey is still extremely popular but only one percent of people have the new keyboard in android 4.2 I don't use swiftkey anymore I haven't since ICS when ICS came out I stopped using swiftkey and I didn't think I needed anymore you guys are you swifty still oh I have it on my own I have the floor beta how do you like the flow beta mean we presume yeah I group the tablet version flow everything all together and just swiftkey well you know it's was it's the third most popular according to our users when I have a stylist out it makes it just works better because i'm gonna use gestures and stuff interesting so just happening so Android users use gmail obviously it was number four that people can't live without then Evernote Evernote also made Google's list of the best apps of 2012 so it's nice to see that in there so they're on the money with that and the I mean staying up with the Google ecosystem we saw google play music is the number six most popular then chrome which a lot of people don't like chrome because it's they think of lags you know it does sometimes i guess a little jittery from time to time but the coolest thing about it is the tab sinking so but people love it for that then they list that is the number seven actually it was the only browser actually listed and all the people that responded to that little survey and spotify was on there for people that were mainly people that can google music a lot of people said that you spotify because they can you know there are international users uh and dropbox was on there as number 9 and number ten was Flipboard um i don't use a lot of those actually i mean most of them actually I mean the Google ones that use I personally uh I use chrome I use music gmail you will now google plus i got use all the google apps but all the other ones i don't use anymore i have used evernote I don't don't use Dropbox anymore don't use Flipboard don't I've never used 55 you know I modifier there's a good so like I said let us know in the comments if you agree with that list we see if you think there's anything else that should be out of there and then and y Moi react about it here in a minute what they worth noting with well both lists but especially Google's list is probably the Holy curated list they put together where every single application on there follows the design guidelines yeah because all the rest of them they'll just sling something that's you know I mean it's good to see that the users are valuing not just core functionality but the experience to agreed yeah and I think they can they can definitely tell that you know they're not gonna unless it's an app that does a lot and is very very good yeah like tasker yeah cuz tesco just and do well overdue for some yeah and I I see some people commenting a drop box with me it's more of a used as an add-on service um with a file manager I just have you know cloud storage so i don't use the app at all but i do use the services through another app which is nice so you know it's got mad at you what did you say that we were gonna do last week that we're not doing right now yeah yeah I know what you're gonna say and it involves yeah all right I love them they're in the IRC channel right now it's me it's dan Dan's idol and mumbler it whoever mumbler it is he's been idling there with us for four long since we created the channel actually in so thank you smuggler and Dan for curvy and they don't we didn't tell anybody else we're gonna do it so maybe you it and next week with CES maybe that will do a CES show next weekend and we'll finally you know activate the IRC channel if I had it now for six months we can use away these days or what all right so can do it moving on with apps when then we'll start talking about some fun stuff uh who uses nova launcher i use nova launcher i have a cake tin to know KP give it up in John launching users never launched to receive the huge update this week I'm not gonna get into all the details a massive massive feature so if you're not using that you know check it out it if it's great I I love it it's my favorite launcher um yeah if you want to see the change log good you know check it out i'm not gonna go in all the detail that I was born let's give this some cool stuff like all right so Scott let's see oh let's see Scott 13 years ago so when you were like four years old um did you play starcraft heavy Starcraft player I how are you John did you play starcraft um no I'm all computer i played it kind about proxy with a bunch of friend tough yeah well I want big stars come on craft enough to know yeah I was a big star craft fan and this past week due to some awesome when you later is the name of the app that allows you to do this do some awesome android hackery you can install the x86 in the windows you know pc version of starcraft as well as other old apps but starcraft is definitely working and it it doesn't look that bad i mean yeah it's a thirteen-year-old gain but people still play it every day it's still popular and the fact that you can play on your tablet i haven't tried it but I I really want to and and I would do it for a couple days and then i would probably quit playing it cuz i just don't game anymore but it looks pretty badass i mean it it looks like it's actually playable like that you can see the guy like clicking in with her tapping and dragging around all his scvs and telling them to go gather minerals in the Abbey it's really cool proof of concept you know I mean for things no porting and very cool yeah I'm a fan I'm not gonna lie I will test that one of these days um any other APSA don't talk about Scott any any big apps that you normally the app guy you know what I was actually sad over the holiday there have been other one law app to app updates everybody will spend time doing holiday stuff like it ever owned him you probably woke up with a frown every day I did but you know I i think that uh i think they did it well i don't know why they did it but um big one for kind of going to the future of facebook Messenger added a little voice function to send voice like little messages um moving towards the sending messages via IP so I think it's kind of cool Google doesn't do it so yeah well yeah they do other stuff um alright so this is an app related topic if you're on verizon and you have a phone that has NFC on it most likely you want to use Google Wallet arm and only one phone without root actually allows you to do that that's the Galaxy Nexus ah the galaxy s3 the razr m the note to the droid DNA all these phones that have NFC some work with rude and a whole bunch of craziness to get google wall to work others don't work at all and that's because Google Wallet uses a you know secure element and that isn't allowed on verizon unless it's Isis which use a secure element then it's allowed ah but that's a whole other topic we talked about I'm just kind of being a little harsh on verizon but but they needed everyone solana keep them in their place so anyways my point is is my point is is it a few hours ago they posted all reading exact words yeah they posted on Google+ saying you'll be seeing a lot of innovative uses for NFC in the coming year this update to the medical ID bracelet like this update to the medical ID bracelet which apparently the medical ID bracelet uses NFC that's pretty awesome so android users the being the pitchfork torch burning people that we are we took to that verizon post and said huh i know some other innovative uses for NFC such as Google Wallet and nearly every single comment is basically saying the same thing about Google wall hey I know another innovative you sir and just slamming them so they're they're little marketing campaign for innovative uses of NFC pretty much backfired on them and it's it's making the rounds right now it's it's hilarious oh if you haven't seen it yet go to verizon wireless's google+ page and i'm sure you'll see it it's uh it's the last post they made as of this time so yeah I think it's pretty funny uh I may have been instigator on that telling drivers comment actually I was the first Panther first birth of the share it all i said was let them know what innovative uses of NFC you'd like to see you know and I just want to see the sequence of whatever you know person is representing them on any cost social network and see how that goes because it's probably post shut my desktop down and then turn notifications off on my mobile device I is it famously because the ensuing comments are I've never seen them positive yeah I know you know what I'll tell you care I've never been a couple times i've mentioned AT&T a couple times i've mentioned sprint and a few times i've mentioned verizon wireless every single time i think or near every single time that I've mentioned t-mobile they answer or comment on the thread every single time on google+ i mean their guy that you have were in charge of social media for t-mo there they're active I've never seen any other carrier personally I mean maybe you guys had different experiences but I've never gotten no response at all right that's great cordless relative to me because that's all the gear I've been on but yeah yeah well anyway so yeah so check and check that out of you haven't seen it uh if I haven't deleted the proposed by now well I screenshotted at UH few hours ago because i wanted i wanted to just the case they went through and deleted stuff i had i had to have it uh i'm an instigator that's okay so so let's talk about some devices here so the nexus 4 you know is sold out or it's damn hard to get um it's gonna be actually available in t-mobile stores here in the near future but it's really hard to get and if you've ordered one or tried to order one you don't I'm talking about uh some some guys over at XDA developers decided to try to figure out the serial number scheme by looking at the letters and numbers and try to devise a way to figure out what divided what devices were in the first batch in the second batch third batch and so forth like that to try to determine you know if the first batch maybe has this issue though fixed in the second batch and so forth you know things like that and through there through their findings of trying to figure that out they guess they kind of figured out how many devices were roughly available for launch in November how many were available in the second big run in November and how many devices were sold available to be sold at least in in December and altogether that number is about 375,000 I mean this could be completely way off or it could be a rough gasps um who knows um I would say it's probably least a minimum no but but either honestly is what Nexus devices of sold traditionally it's probably pretty close so you look at it then as two things you LG has never in my opinion had an extremely successful phone so they're not used to they're not used to having a massive onslaught of orders and their production lines arm the first month it was like what seventy seventy thousand then you know and then ramped up a little bit i think the last in december it was like 210,000 these findings say and to whom subi supposed to be mad at we met at google for not getting these devices out still or now do we turn our anger at LG saying why the hell out weren't you producing enough is that because google didn't tell you to produce a lot or that's because it took a long time to get production ramped up or you know who's who's to blame here you know uh I don't know you know numbers and numbers they don't tell us anything that besides that besides numbers little bit of both something when your when your google and your that I mean you're so adaptive what the web does I mean I would think that a pre-order at least some kind of that mean they could anticipate it in so far away without you know completely missing the Marga no I'm going to look at it touchpad or something that never fire sale well I'm going to look at it is it's always been like an enthusiast device a Nexus device has been an enthusiast of us you have to know technology to hear about a Nexus device google doesn't you know until recently i start you know you don't want to see a whole lot of nexus commercials on v you don't see you know billboards that often you know you just don't it's not heavily marketed the same way that the song does or horizon markets droids or they Apple markets iPhones so you have to know about it or you're on there certain right tech websites to see the advertisements there you know it so maybe they didn't you know it's an enthusiast device maybe they didn't know that how high the demand was going to be I don't know either way if you didn't get your nexus 4 yet fingers crossed confidence hi hopefully you'll get it soon if not our buddy Trevor vas he just he's on his second one right now so feel free to turn your rage towards him as he's on device number two because he just he broke his first one so uh go ahead and be mad him it's people like him that are taking your device away from you is these developers that are breaking their devices sending them back for replacement exactly that are just ruining for the for the average consumer so what so John not what do you know about the Exynos for vulnerability patch we'll talk about that for a little bit oh I didn't really look at the patch in depth i'm not some basically just a permissions issue pretty simple fix it's just a question of how quickly they can get it out to carriers um it does apply to the note 2 as well as the s3 well actually it only applies to the international history because that's only one with the exit no sperm yeah oh and by something I get the galaxy s3 and every single note to write you know ever ever note 2 and uh so rate right until I users in the UK I guess it really depends like a special in the US whether they want to just roll the security exploit itself out or where they just want to take it into whatever software version they've got coming out because they got you know even with the galaxy s3 they get they've been advertising that premium suite that's coming up and really the vulnerabilities night that big of a deal anyway I mean if you want to be exploited it is but I mean the timeframe as far as someone writing malware specifically for that device and hoping for I mean basically the holes patched yeah it's a really simple page and okay so Bob people across the pond in the UK for the galaxy camera that new little device I can't really said it's a phone or if it's a camera but they're getting for dot ramrod one starting today so that's awesome quick updates and they're right on track good job Samsung and awesome Wi-Fi only devices get their updates click and for ATT and Verizon they might have to test their radios a little bit more yeah um Elias will see it eventually well I mean it's just that it's just that eventually word you know who knows how long it's going to take with whatever if you have a device on those now those networks and it's you know that's just how it goes um so those of you that own the Hisense pulse google TV if you bought it a few weeks back you may have noticed that and over the air update was available a few days ago ah not a whole lot to say about it it improved user experience um what exactly does that mean who knows I didn't notice any changes but the big change the most important change about that it was a security fix I'm sure it probably did actually improve some type of user experience who knows but it was it it was a security fix it actually patched the ability to root the device the device shipped with a unlocked or an open I guess is the correct word and open bootloader um so all you had to do to root it was copy the super user files over and you were rooted and you could run relapse it was literally that it was actually easier to root the nexus device like it's like a Nexus device you have to look at it and it routes itself hisense pulse like like you wanted to look in the other room yeah well it was like peripheral vision route you know like her telepathic yeah it was stupid easy to root but that was most likely an oversight we-we-we people that like to root and rom we kind of hoped that i was like a something that was gonna start to happen you know maybe leaving the things open for developers to have fun with but it seems it was an oversight and oops and it was patched arm those of you that are saddened by that I'll say watch GTV hacker they have some news coming in the foreseeable future for that device and most likely others moving on let's talk about some some fun stuff let's talk about ubuntu phone so what what's that Scott I'm excited about it another player um it may come too late um but yeah well I give us you update on what what is this gonna be like a you've on 24 my phone is this going to be a phone develops version or well it's I mean it's gonna be a bunt too but it's a completely new UI actually it's a knuckle I it's an awesome-looking UI and that's because it's new it's fresh and it's completely gesture-based that's awesome um you don't have to worry about supporting legacy applications on older design standards yeah so start subscribe this way so it's very cool because it's you know it's completely open which you know so is a bunch of other open-source operating systems um the most interesting thing about this though is there's no planned phone release for another year at least 2014 so right now the only device that it is most likely going to run on in the near future is the Galaxy Nexus they're going to release images for it soon now i'm sure people in the android and Linux community will do what they do best and no hack and they'll port the hell out of it to as many devices as possible um but to actually have a phone you can bind your hand so that won't happen for a year that sucks I mean that that's going to actually hurt I think the operating system more than help it out I mean initially launched with hardware partners not saying hey we'll have one in a year did they did the same thing with the bundhi for Android a year ago where is it yeah exactly yeah yeah last year at CES we saw a bump to for Android and we saw a bun to TV yeah but I think like a lot of this is kind of like a precursor to get developers excited about it and like you say ported to other devices and and get them going on it because once they have the community developed and bad they write well onan it sported if you're watching right now let us know what you think of a bunch of phone you excited for it are you gonna try to run it would you run it do you want to know more about it um just let us know we'll check the comments here in a few minutes um i would run it for a week i would think it would be awesome I would look fall in love with the UI and then after a week I would say well you know what I'm tired of viewing web pages I would like to view an app that I'm used to for example during the demo video it shows shows facebook shows gmail you know and shows you google apps they're all just web pages which is fine i guess but you know some mobile apps on as good as the actual application to know the software app so if you're if you're your game or your app your utility has a very nice HTM l5 web app right now yeah it's going to look okay under ubuntu but if not they're going to have to start developing for it and then put something out for it I mean a lot of people argue saying that that's good after with future you know Firefox OS webos tizon you know you just develop an html5 app and it works on every OS Chrome OS and then you know another one you know if it's html5 it's going to work on all these cross-platform years away from yeah but I mean that's it's very cool it's very innovative I I I think it's awesome like I said I would run it for a week and then I would miss my content I would miss my ecosystem and and I would have to go back you know I think even is flashing a completely new wrong you know what I mean I I gave my full thoughts and a post a day but I think like okay when html5 s did rule and not the exception than these alternate operating systems have more of a chance than they do now but the type of user that's gonna honestly be able to put up with this right now is the one that primarily uses their phone as a phone and uses the web services is kind of like a secondary thing and that user is pretty much go on right now I mean there's nobody that I can think of that uses a smartphone just for phone things anymore and just say well my tip email twice a day you know said man you know maybe four people they're heavily in business stay on the phone all day but most people are playing on games and doing you know kind of quirky applications and stuff that really requires a lot of native functionality right now agric kind of need to be a hybrid to be useful now the other thing I don't get is with on ubuntu for android and google help them with kind of that emulator to actually run android applications on a full desktop environment on ubuntu you I don't see why they couldn't roll that into the ubuntu phone OS they were at it and let the manufacturer cover the cost the place don't you no license for Google applications if they feel like putting them on there i mean just kind of makes sense for getting your adoption up a little bit yeah and the speaking of open source operating systems samsung followed up on tues news announcement and said hey us too we we've planned this for a while and they told the world that they're planning on releasing multiple tizon devices this year I'm bettin we'll see some at CES next week and in yeah I'm curious on Samsung's play on this I I like Samsung devices I mean they're the most popular Android manufacturer OEM there they're all over the place a blanket everything from every every size available I mean they're they're all over the place and a lot of people think that they're you know they don't want to be tied to google they're working or maybe on their own their own cloud their own ecosystem you know which they are with the whole s branding you know s music & S Cloud and all that you know all the s stuff um I mean yeah it's neat to see another OS you know competition is good I'm curious what devices will run it i'm really curious if we'll see like for lack of better words we see like an android s4 and then we see like it is an s4 you know i mean like a robbery it'll be very interesting how they you know market it and how they tried to pull people on to that and even if they tried to pull people onto it because i don't know it could go either way i'm very curious to see what they do with releasing it and how they want to market it and there's a new model number that was leaked this past week the GT q1000 is that gonna be the first tizon device the q1000 you know and who knows where's it going to be just a new line of devices with flexible displays me I'm sure we'll find all that out here at CES next week speaking of model numbers are the LG optimus g2 we could see at CES 2013 um 1080p screens all around right yeah you know what's interesting about that is I think that's really going to take off me right now we only see very limited number of devices with 1080p screens now we got the all the fun I love to hate we got the HTC droid DNA yeah I'll do what the oh poo 50 pou OU pou when I say that the yeah so it has a 1080p screen that you know on there's a whole lot of a lot of players in that um and it's a good number for people to relate because people know TV resolutions and they know you know they will know smartphone resolutions and they can base it off that to the average consumer so when we see the LG optimus g2 at CES maybe mom what's interesting about that is I mean that I know smartphone manufacturers are constantly you know in production cycles you know from development to you know to beta 2 yeah actually producing it in an end to the consumers hand that you know it's a constant non-stop cycle so the LG optimus you just came out a couple months ago the nexus 4 just came out two months ago and which is me i made by LG which is in those two are basically the exact same phone except for the michelle and now we're hearing about you know the successor to that phone and for lack of better words those two phones at the same thing I mean the same hardware so some have an LTE radio though no but anyway so is very very similar hardware almost near exact and now we're seeing a successor to that already going to be announced with it 1080p phone in a in a prime a Snapdragon Prime a new processor I think that's the one that can hit two to two-and-a-half giga hertz per core really that's not things screaming for a mobile chip so will we see that you know what i'll let you guys know in a few days if i get to play with that device i'm excited to see it you know i'm i'm curious how many 1080p devices are we gonna see it see yes you know because sharp announced this past week that they're having a hell of a time keeping those 1080p screens available like they're they're running out konsa they're going through their stock so you can't tell me that your standard well you can't tell me that that you know the DNA is point you know or the 25 or whoever's making another we know I mean you can't tell me that just those few devices are completely depleting all sharp stocks so other manufacturers have to have pre-production models right now making them and burning them up so there's also Samsung when the LED screens can they get them down to that type of resolution could I be interesting yeah well I'm sure we're gonna find out a lot of information there's tons of CES technologies yes rumors yeah screen technology is gonna be a big showcase of pixels pixels pixels and power power writing those pixels can be very very interesting now another a 1080p screen and we're talking about another another CES rumor the seven dun dun dun dun um it's basically supposed to be the successor to the HTC One X and the one x+ basically rumors put it at a 4.7 inch display with a 1080p resolution 1.7 gigahertz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor 2 gigs of ram 32 gigabytes of storage 13 megapixel camera 2-megapixel front-facing camera 2300 milliamp hour battery and running Android jelly bean good specs well I mean it's a successor to the One X and the the one x+ so yeah I mean it's not I mean yet what I mean does that excite you to the point where you want to go out and you want to buy it as opposed to you know just kind of it's another phone because you know you get these large amounts of phones getting released all the time and it could just be a you know sweep it under the rug you know and that's when people arguing are we past the age of the spec I mean things really i mean phones are really very similar in terms of speed so and you start looking at all well what bells and whistles does it have but once they all star coming with roughly the same specs you look at software and that and that's where then Samsung and LG and and who else snow starts bloating the hell out of these devices you know with all sorts of extra software that we well I don't want some someone you don't want some you don't care that it makes one yeah I mean that's I I love that sauce I keep saying i love to hate this phone right here the DNA i love this film but I hate since I can't stand it uh I can't wait for an AOSP rom on this phone I I just sense is ok but since it's just not for me and that's how these guys are going to differentiate themselves you know one thing that I like this I don't know if you guys went over this yet but uh you know hardware buttons yeah that's a nice rumor I i love that rumor I was hard going from the nexus 4 or the gout in the end the Galaxy Nexus to the the DNA I I don't like hardware by better tell the difference sure who would Sam song without physical home button yeah all right so let's move on to something a little bit smaller that you don't carry in your hand all the time ah samsung's new white chromebox I'm sure that'll probably be at CES to swill file it under CES rumors you it's a chromebox like the one that was released this past last year um actually the specs are pretty much exactly the same except for its little sexy you're a little whiter you know not a complete it's completely white it has rounded edges ooh so apples got apples gonna be pissed about that um it looks uh looks all right i mean i'd rather have a Chromebook but you know if you need a desktop yeah I'm curiously what they do with the price since the specs are uh you know basically the same when they drop the price yeah yeah hey we'll find out see yes I mean that's pretty much the answer to every device we keep talking about you know next week on the show we're gonna have all these answers I swear and if we don't it is Darcy's fault you hear that Darcy I'm the routing in ramen for all you guys that do a whole bunch of rutin in ramen Derek there's an alternative in the works for free f er for backups yeah I'll talk about that alright so those of you that route a lot of you that route when I I asked him so Hayley so what do you read your device for one of the most popular responses and besides getting rid of carrier bloat OEM blow anyways uh say well I want to backup my devices I'm sorry I own about yeah I want to backup my apps my app data and so forth and you know so there needs to be an easy way to do that arm right now people route and they use titanium backup which titanium backup works great if you're on ice cream sandwich android 4.2 or higher you can actually use adb commands to to back up without root and most people you know aren't familiar with the command line so how does the average guy average joe or the average scott back his data from command line or how does he use titanium backup if he isn't rooted or he doesn't know what he's doing and can use command lines though Koosh came up with a idea of a tiny little web server that runs on your android device and you connect to it it's a beautiful you I it's very easy to use it's intuitive and you can backup your apps and your app data and right now you have to be routed to use it eventually he's going to release a app that is installed on your PC and then you don't have to be routed then anymore so you can backup all your apps and all your app data and that's great for the average person because people constantly complain about you know wanting to back up their data but they don't want to route or or or that's the main reason that they route and instill titanium backup is a great app don't get me wrong I love it I use it all the time but its UI is kind of hard to use um if you're new to titanium backup it's might be kind of overwhelming because there's so many options it's this guy he's got a new discs us hey I need a button it says backup now go you know like I want people want something easy so this is awesome it's an alternative um I'll use it I guarantee it um you know uh I'm excited to use it I have it I have it on mine my DNA right now it's now it's neat um more you know it's only like a beta right now our alpha whatever kaku she was calling it's gonna get better as time goes on them I'm excited I'm gonna follow that project very closely yeah I'm excited um some cm news before I talk talk about cm I've been talking a lot don't you have some aokp news and your big aokp fan yeah um aokp basically released their their jelly bean version um like the 4.2 version of the akp great yeah Mr one um yeah it's for the Galaxy Nexus gsm verizon seven Wi-Fi and the nexus 4 basically it's a KP in its back with 4.2 good eNOS you can some of the new things that they added um basically this version was about giving all the features of the old one and that re read a lot of stuff but allow any kind of widget on the lock screen and you can have an unlimited amount of widgets now take into consideration how much RAM your phone has because it can be a hog and then also what I found really interesting was there's menu-aire arrow keys while typing so let's say you're filling out a an online form and you don't have autofill on and you want to go to the next box there's a simple thing at the bottom of your keyboard you just click it there's an arrow on the right and on the left and you can go to the next field or go back to the field before um and it's not just websites that you can use this on if let's say you're editing a folder with all which apps in it and let's say you want to rename all the apps that are in the folder well you rename one of them and then you use the keyboard on the bottom on the right or the left the arrow key to go to the next app to rename it so you don't have to like click on everything it's kind of cool if you're working with lists and want to rename a legit stuff and working with forms I found it pretty nice and then also status bar transparency that's controllable and nice um the customizable status bar toggles I don't like at all not a fan of them on the new jelly bean not a fan of them on a okay p and for some odd reason i cannot get the brightness toggle bar on the top to work and that may not be in it but that was one of the things that I loved and then yeah pretty cool stuff it's fast really fast to running it on my dog Texas present because my nexus 4 is in the nail and it's going to get replaced sad face um Derek cyanogenmod yeah so those of you rocking cm 10.1 most likely garden know what I'm talking about if you flash Knightley's oh yeah every other day or so if he flashed a nightly a couple days ago you may have noticed some new widgets the clock weather and calendar widget that we all came to know and love on cm10 was completely rewritten and got some android 4.2 awesomeness it's a lock screen widget as well as a homescreen widget um but said it it was reformatted to work on the android 4.2 lock screen and it looks awesome and i want it badly and i can't have it yet and it makes me a sad panda it's called Chronos um once again it's just a revamping yeah looks pretty cool I I can't wait to someday be able to flash that I'm gonna have to put it on my Nexus 7 you know what I'm gonna have to yeah you should you know cuz don't see the point of running a custom rom on my Nexus 7 it I mean I the only time I ever eaten my nexus 7 was to put a bun to on it you know I'm ruining mine tonight and I'm gonna flash something on it to issue another an exercise event oh my god Wow let's not do that that's as you're typing commands you know why don't i don't know right I flash a new rom model and if it when there's a lot of roms available for my device i flash them constantly you know i like doing that but I know hey I have two rooms available for my dealing and one in the one rom is a carrot juice wrong that is a lot to choose from ok wait a second there's ultimate can bang there's someone em looks like milk milk rom there's some other rom there's there's genome and genome is basically uh what was our enemy flash close and then I know what it is there's some with an H to it and two of those have you use all the mods from altamik gangbang so it's the same damn wrong so there's only two wrong like you send me if you so room like them all yeah I know they don't want to cook one together for you and I didn't you know there's there's a couple guys working on an AOSP port right now and as far as I can tell there's actually two device trees but there's four different device trees listed on github and two of them just fork the other dudes and then really and then said it was theirs up but yeah there's there's two guys working on it right now um the one guy actually I'm talking to him on IRC right now he uh he's a good guy he has a colonel out there for the DNA and I'm i switched between my colonel and in his colonel just uh just as you know make sure that what dan and I did was right and it doesn't it doesn't suck I'm just kidding dan is what they always talking about that guy has like 70 some kernels out there that he's done in the past anyway so yeah that's really for reading Rama not a whole bunch of information this week you know still chugging along cm10 nightly show up for a handful of new devices um bunch of galaxy tabs showed up this past week so well yeah like everybody's just looking towards the future with CES and figuring out what's to come as pajama so so so next week you can find us on a new time a new date we're not gonna be on Thursday Night Live we're going to be on Friday night that way we can give you a full week of CES recap awesomeness and tell you about what devices in that were they were awesome which one sucked hopefully none and which ones were most is you know looking forward to uh and what we're going to see in the mobile world over the the next year I will be there whole bunch other people from android authority will be there will be interviewing a seeing as much as possible and we have a whole bunch interview set up a bunch of a meeting set up with a whole bunch of vendors I'm excited and apparently apparently I gotta look nice cuz I'm gonna be in a bunch of videos Darcy was Tommy I I told i told him you know should I you know trying to like bring my tablet along you know and to do some writing from ESA's on no no no other guys do that we have the camera on you you're gonna use that on the hangouts you're gonna be doing all the interviews like damn it bastard oh that's all right now so if you guys want to catch us and our CES roundup on the end of this week you can find us on YouTube Android authority I if you want to follow along with our live show with our recap and kind of give your point of view as well as hear our point of view of the different devices that are leaked and presented you can follow us on google+ at android authority and also you can comment on the youtube live show comment on the Google+ from the Google+ posts from the Google+ page if you're listening to us after we're on soundcloud or on itunes or on podbean we are also on stitcher radio and yeah if you want to see all the posts after every episode we do it the next day if you go to android authority calm scrolling on the right side and find the on-air verte on the on-air section that's all of our posts up for every episode with kind of a summary of 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