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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm dare cross and i'm scott henderson this week were joined with dan Charlton Johnathan Franklin and first time she'll guest Joshua Vergara hey Dylan Josh hey what's going on everybody josh is a part of the android authority team more importantly he was our amazing AV guy at CES this past week Josh made us all look good on the on our YouTube videos especially me it turns out i can do hangout interviews and I can do this really well at least I think I can do it well but when it comes to actually holding a mic in front of somebody and ask questions and interviewing it is a completely different thing I'm not good at it um the first two maybe even three videos I did our interviews I did were horrible in my opinion but but Josh did his magic and made them you know bearable but after the heck but after that um actually no not just josh i got a the other camera guy that was there from the android authority team up christopher awoke he he's pretty awesome too and he made him and i did a hell of a job the other two days and did some really good videos if you guys haven't watched him go check out our youtube channels are up there for a bunch of devices we're gonna be talking about today so how many guys were there oh well uh our editor-in-chief Darcy lack of a was there as well as our our webmaster and co-founder Derek Scott myself Josh and Chris yeah so where there's five of this uh was my first CES so I had a hell of a time it was great um you know some people keep saying OCS was a little disappointing uh from a consumer standpoint maybe but um you know is my first one the first two days were awesome for me after that it was kind of like yeah you know I mean you know where's where's the cool stuff that you know like where's the cool consumer products that you know we're going to be launching yeah it's called the consumer electronic show so it should be good for the consumers but uh you know yeah so talking about 4k TVs that nobody can you know even uh yeah you know use yet no it's a consumer product but still and then you're talking about you know CPUs nobody cares about a Qualcomm you know CPU or a Tegra 4 CPU they want to know about the cool devices running it okay some people present company excluded you don't care about it anyway so uh let's talk about some some devices uh we had a whole lot of interesting android phones and tablets and Google TV devices that will hit on this week during the show so hallway introduced to new device is the ascend d2 and the ascend mate and you'll talk about i hain't seen the word phablet i really do you know the whole tablet phone hybrid but but on the ascend mate which we'll talk about here first the thing is massive it has a 6.1 inches screen so it's it's very close to the same size as the nexus 7 you know it has a better screen the Nexus 7 has a higher process or better camera finger and but it ends a phone um it's a pretty awesome device I think good josh did you get some hands-on time with that yeah a little bit darcy now were able to take a look at it and yeah putting it up against one of the more commonplace phones these days it's kind of a no contest because a lot of people really want that larger screen but putting it up against the Nexus sezon you have a weird sort of dichotomy there where the specs on the Nexus 7 and experience on it and my opinion a lot better but having something just a little bit smaller actually felt kind of cool that being said though the the ascend mate was definitely I don't know I just when I had it in my hand it felt nice but I don't know if I'd be able to use that thing every single day to be honest yeah I put on my pocket and in it you know it's a big fella it fit in my my my jeans immer slacks whatever I was wearing that day out you know it fit fine but it's big it really is uh it's a very solid feeling device it's well-built I mean I think it feels well Milt I wonder what they'll what the sweet spot is going to be now hallway also add another device the d2 so if 6.1 is a little too big they have a smaller phone the the d2 and it has a 5-inch screen and still it's 1080p 13-megapixel camera jelly bean it's very it's not a light phone it's not overly heavy phone but it it feat it's a very solid you know it may be because of the way it's weighted it it's a very solid you know heavy feeling phone now out comparing it to the the Ascend I mean there in terms of you know they're having this baby they really feel you know roughly the same it's a well-built device to it really is like I said it's very solid feeling no we just mentioned two phones that have a 1080p resolution is the that you guys were there and I mean is this kind of what they're pushing to be as a standard for a screen at least in the high-end range well I believe in unless I'm wrong here nearly every device that we're going to talk about tonight is a 1080p has a 1080p screen so let me this is definitely 2013 is going to be the year of 1080p screens yeah at least the vast majority of them are going to have 1080p screens that's cool at least all your LCD base screen would be LEDs probably tough pretty get it known that kind of like the listening I mean I only just upgraded to 720 with the next boy oh yeah happy I'm happy with 720 but exactly oh my my DNA can you see the difference yeah actually I can't mom no I can't I'll unless I launched an app that doesn't support it then yes yes I can tell the difference because the app looks all stretched out a good point color is more important than pixel density yeah yeah just calibrating it will know one thing about the Ascend devices that I think we can touch on a bit is they actually come with some pretty massive batteries I think that was one thing that they really wanted to sort of put out there these things can probably last quite a long time with the d2 having 3000mah and the mate having looking like 4050 miles is a tablet battery yeah absolutely that's the and always said it's going to last 48 hours of usage so you get 48 hours of usage out of that that's nuts yeah I don't matter good Tuesday's life is just roommates block that is crazy so now we're talking about you know hallway devices we're gonna talk about the the ZTE grand ass next and both of these manufacturers are china-based so most people consumers here in the US net have never heard of these companies have no clue what they are so it's gonna be interesting how you know if they try to move into the US market what how that's gonna treat them and some people you know the followers and kind of the you know the people that are very interested in may look may know the names but the devices are kind of still foreign you know nobody intended yeah i mean i think i weigh probably more than ZTE but highway is a game that people are probably familiar with as you know makers of those knockoff tvs those cheap crappy versions of you know good electronics from Samsung or LG but the funny thing is you know 40 years ago people were looking at got a samsung TV those are those cheap Korean knock offs from the American companies that don't existing and people used to get a even Samsung vs sony those debates yeah ganic yeah so I mean I know that these Chinese manufacturers Hawaii and ZTE and to a lesser extent lenovo lenovo used to be idea so it's still a pretty big name at least in enterprise but as these chinese manufacturers are trying to claw their way into the American market I think it's it's going to be slow for them and they're gonna have to keep putting up a lot of really good devices like this that they're going to attract people but they're also you have to p down price so i think that's that's what's going to be the crux of it not just price but quality because people expect you know honest they think it's the cheap chinese knockoff so they want yeah but they're they're nice they're good quality phone so let's talk about the grand ass so they're they're touting this phone is being the world's thinnest 5-inch smartphone also the world's thinnest quad-core 5-inch smartphone in it I got I had the pleasure of me playing quad-core five and smartphones are there I don't know but they're the first I can say that that you know is that they're the first they can affect will use that marketing term how about that yeah i sell italy is thinner than four inch high end smartphones just to get a cover yourself because there's so many trying to claim it at CES yeah and it's six point nine millimeters that's pretty dang thin no matter what you're comparing it to ya so those either watching know my cat is not dead diabetic but we had a question i see so it the IRC channel which burn and we're eventually trying to use that it's irc.freenode.net channel android authority and and our good buddy Jeff Rivera asked if if my cat was dead and no she's not she's just sleeping that's highly debatable so let's talk about the grand ass a little bit more so it has a 1.7 gigahertz Qualcomm our Qualcomm Snapdragon s4 processor 2 gigs ram you know pretty much standard nowadays it in a 2500 milliamp hour battery 13 megapixel camera and I said a 5-inch screen um its UI for those of you that know me you I the ROM BIOS I owe me it reminds me a lot like that in terms of the launcher itself the launcher just and even the the the the lock screen it reminds me of me why I I was very surprised to see that I mean they are both they are both Chinese companies so I guess I shouldn't be that surprised but the they definitely took some hints from Zion me on that now was it fast knowing that they can develop their own type of you know skin yeah you know it wasn't slow I just launched the few basic apps and played with it just looking a little bit it wasn't slow I didn't notice I didn't notice any lag with suspects it really oh yeah thank you pretty good crappily program launcher and those two yes since early on with similar specs the UI is those specs push through it yeah yeah yeah it's kind of sad that those specs are like oh yeah whatever two years of RAM 1.7 yogurts quad core processor yeah whatever I think we're getting to those days though yeah we could take this phone back to 2009 though it would just I cool oh my god you just blow out people's minds with it because I mean that's the thing with these smartphones and technology in general the specs are getting so good but they're also becoming ubiquitous yeah i think it's it's like the desktop market is going to stagnate yeah i personally think it's like the desktop market with the fact that when i got my first I seven and I you know was like okay every average consumer is not going to need anything more than this and they'll be fine gotta go from Sandy Bridge to ivy bridge there's no justification whatever to buy it at all very true I would move on to the lenovo k900 now a different type of processor the Intel Atom two gigahertz and is this the one that's supposed to be like low low low battery as they claimed well what's more interesting about this is it it's a dual core processor and a year ago is when we talk or or they just gets dual core and it's really a single core that's hyper threaded oh no it's it's dual Florida on Iran saying their previous one was dual core when it was not well I actually spoke with a I was going to say spoke with Lenovo I actually spoke with an in a rep at CES and I said to him you know a year ago you guys were saying that Android wasn't good enough for multiple core devices her multiple core processors you said that when the medfield came out that everybody said all Intel's putting out a single core processor and the rest of the world's doing dual core quad core now and Intel you know came back and said well the reason we didn't put out a multi-core devices because it would actually hurt android android can't handle multiple cores or something like that they said android wasn't good enough just in thread properly well yeah so i asked i ask the sales rep i said so what has changed with either intel or android in the past year and what you said John you can watch up our YouTube video on this when i interviewed the guy he said just exactly that it had to do with you know with reading that android couldn't properly do it or many apps couldn't properly do it so they actually build their processors to handle that yeah it was a change that they made in the core of android i want to say in honeycomb and then they patched it in a gingerbread in one of the late additions like two point three point six or seven um but everything from ICS and dining companies had it so for int'l to say a year ago oh no it was there yeah it was they were just behind times you know they're talking but you remembered devices like when the droid x2 came out with a dual corn that was used to what it was useless yeah yeah absolutely no noises so Josh you would actually get to play with the k900 uh I was uh you guys did you and Darcy went down there and filmed it and got to play with it everything did you actually get to touch it and see any first-hand experience with it really really I didn't I wasn't able to go hands-on with it um I remember Darcy mentioning that you know it's it those bigger sized screens are going to be for all intents and purposes the future as we've seen at CES but I think that the main comment that I have aside from the specs is actually really didn't like how it looked I really did they just did you guys see the back of it it looked kind of like a shiny want to be prada looking kind of thing it really didn't look that great um and on the video that we put up a lot of people kind of agreed they uh having that shiny back on it just it I don't know it just wasn't something that we were used to it it looked very very tall like the DNA just it seems in thin and tall and it reminded me of something like that it's very it's a 5.5 inch screen 1080p and it's it's very thin or it but it's very tall it just comes off that way so it's almost you know like it's like stretch but I'll I'm curious you know how we compared to the hallway mate you know in the you know in the in the future when we can do a versus on that mm-hmm I'm surprised the design is flashy at all I mean yeah right Lenovo's design is so sedated and in you know industrial enterprise just stripped out rugged laptops that they make I'm surprised it's not the same for their phones well that's I guess we're trying to make it like a coming out party of some sort I would love to see the thinkpad of phones yeah exactly or a tablet with that same kind of design style to it deviled egg no that would just make me extremely at me if I could get the phone that's like rhino liner that's all I'm all for it or how the double phone that has like that little red nub in the middle I forgot about that / with lenovo's a new way to navigate at laptops all right so let's uh let's talk about a couple tablets here um acer is coming out with a very cheap in price and I'm gonna say in quality to it feels really cheap tablet the the b-1a 71 because that's an awesome name for tablet so spider planers sound like a fire so we're just gonna call to be one I mean that sounds like to be one ball or two bits but stick so this uh it's it it's a cheap tablet it's gonna be about 150 bucks here in the US whenever it launches its gonna be about 120 / in / in europe and there'd be 120 year I was not hungry oh yeah yeah obviously it has a 7-inch screen with a 1024 x 600 resolution so it's you know it it's not winning any awards for its display but it's a but it's a budget tablet a 1.2 gigahertz dual-core processor a gig of media tech I don't even know me piatek made processors well they do for this device so much you know damn that's hot that's how impressive these specifications are so Dan you're not gonna bust out a MediaTek kernel for this or what okay okay oh it has eight gig of storage instead of an arm Oh dirt I would say no it's more competing with the cheapest low-end kindle fire it really looks like it to be honest from from this yeah but even the cheap kindle fire didn't they upgrade to 1920 x or not 1925 something by 800 yeah actually yeah so but it's a it's a cheap tablet and it's gift for those folks that should give us one hundred fifty dollars well they said somewhere around we're not sure the the US specs new nobody knows for sure because we don't know an official launch day we don't even know if it's going to come here in the US they did tell us that there they're looking into it whatever that means but yeah it's I mean 150 bucks for a kids tablet I'm you know you don't want him to break a two-hundred-dollar tablet you're you know you're on a budget yeah find a nexus 7 on sale for just a little bit more it's pretty much twice as good you're right you're right but hey it's nice to have more cheap tablets on the market right it's true more choice is always a good thing but you know what's nice about this is for everybody that complains about an SD card slot this has one so you can put more local storage so maybe that's the deciding factor here if you read some comments and threads I guess some people would buy this based upon that yeah so if you need something cheap with an SD card there you go next this this would be a good tablet to use bit torn on and not have to worry about ruining your computer sure just don't care buy it for your a jew bittorrent client and Jeff makes a good point it can't be less than five $150 because they are making money off of the content like Amazon or again absolutely yeah I'd see this device is something that you'd give like your your twelve-year-old kid to be honest because of the price point and it's just it's just good enough that you know the kids not going to be all that all that picky about the speed of the specs or anything like that just something to play games on I would argue younger than that not there I don't want to go too young I didn't know what was yeah so let's talk about another most likely cheap tablet we don't really know the price on it yet but but vizio announced two very interesting had tablets at the show we actually didn't get a chance to uh to take a look at them ourselves you had to go to a sweet I don't know where they were maybe it in Trump but I'll yet did actually leave the show and we were too busy geeking out the show to leave to go to their suite to check it out but we did see their press release and according to the press release these devices are aimed in my opinion depending on the price but just by looking at the specs they're aimed at it taking on the Nexus 7 in the nexus 10 and I say that because they they run stock Android and there there would be pretty much the exact same specs you know that up they run stock Android yeah manufacturer not partnering with google for a Nexus device releasing something running stock Android yeah that's heating me not that's huge what other two what other tablets do that what's the last device that was released excluding the motorola xoom that did that oh this is something or other that prepaid prepaid phone ZTE has one out there that does but yeah you're right there's no there's no tablets and there's only maybe one maybe two devices you know they do at this time this is a strategy Vizio has used on their laptops as well they've on their windows laptops you're not going to find you know all this trial software and stickers all over them I me everywhere and stuff this is something that a philosophy they've adopted and have one hundred percent agree with it because people are tiring that grab ya so the vizio 7-inch shall we don't want you to have a name at this time it's 1280 x 800 16 gigs of storage 1.2 megapixel front-facing camera neck I said Nick Nexus 7 the cool thing about the vizio 10 is it's gonna have a Tegra 4 CPU you know that's the first tablet that I know that's announced to come with a Tegra 4 I think it's the first device not made by video it's announced coming with Tiger for yeah yeah so it's gonna have a 10.1 inch screen like I said Nexus 10 a 2560 by 1600 display like I said Nexus 10 32 gigs of storage and an ln stock as well so who knows what the prices are going to be you know but if they're comparable I mean it's it's a it's another you know I'm curious to see how that turns out against the Exynos processor because some people were saying that you know the X and O's you know processor to push all those pixels on the on the Nexus 10 you can get it to lag a little bit you know if you work hard at it you can get the UI to lag from time to time so will the Tegra 4 not lag in those scenarios that's what I'm curious to see I haven't seen a lot of good stats on you did the Tegra 5 running Android or work or excuse me the Exynos 5 on Android or the Tegra 4 No so Josh you got to do a bunch of vs. videos with the Xperia Z in the ZL right oh yeah I'm excited to talk about these yeah so since you did you did an extensive work with uh with these new Xperia devices from Sony do you mind talking about him for a little bit yeah definitely on the Xperia Z in the CL to be honest I think would be my person no like best of show to be honest as far as a mobile devices go phones and whatnot you're looking at 1080p displays 5-inch on the on the Z on both of them actually and the funny part about the two devices is that the ZL even though its sporting the same size screen was able to pack it into a smaller form factor so it's come it's comparable to that of the it doesn't it's not as big and the Z while it is a little bit bigger has a very good feel to it it's like glass all over and it's a I they wouldn't let us say waterproof about the phone they said water resistant because they don't want everybody yeah they wouldn't like they don't want anybody to jump in a pool and just think that their phones gonna well but they were submerging them in a little like a fish bowl or something is part of them gration yeah yeah just like I did with the xperia v in my review of it I put it in my my fishbowl and it was it worked perfectly in there um the thing that a lot of people don't know is and i'm pretty sure it's going to be the same for the xperia z is that when it's underwater the screen is inoperable so you can do anything underwater if you're using it it's just that it's not going to die you can't doing like James Bond stuff like scuba diving take pictures not at all Oh deep diving with that thing but other than that you got a 13 megapixel camera on the back the thing that I thought was interesting about the camera was us while we didn't get a whole lot of technical explanation on it it's capable of HDR video and I thought that was a kind of interesting I would be I would love to check that out myself other than that two gigs of ram in both microsd support i think on actually on both on both devices if i'm not mistaken and as far as the look and feel goes of when it comes to two of the phones like I said the Z is glass all over so it's very slight e in your hand and it's it takes fingerprints like nothing when we were doing the verses videos we kept having to wipe down the Z because Darcy was like all over it the seal on the other hand has a nice matted sort of textured back and it feels really nice it's kind of a toss-up really what I would think the best one between the two is but I'm not going to lie after working with the xperia v having a water resistant or waterproof phone it it's actually kind of cool I'm not gonna lie being able to throw that thing and like a body of water and not worry about it i think that's great and they even told us if the phone gets dirty you could wash it off like what but uh yeah i really do think it's pretty cool um just kind of a side point uh NFC in general uh is it catching on with new devices they do say whatever we ask about NFC it's they do say yes and they kind of try to make it a big deal but like we tried to demonstrate with our own phones one time when we were not at the show floor it's not I don't know NFC is cool and everything but I don't think it's a really amazing protocol to use at least not yet you know if i were to if i were to share a photo with somebody and try to do NFC they might look at me and say why didn't you just text it would have been faster yeah it's it's a bigger deal in countries like japan that have pretty much adopted it wholeheartedly they look at you you know if you pull out a debit credit card they look at you like you're crazy over there yeah that is true i still haven't been able to figure out google wallet i do want to try it out but yeah we would just cut the carrier's here the oldest bug yeah absolutely alright so let's talk about the end the pantech discover now what ahead whatever I was reviewing this phone and I was actually with the pantech ladies I kept calling it the discovery for some reason and thanks to it thanks to editing awesomeness we were able to work every time I said discovery is a god damn it and then there's a guy we gonna start this again sorry wiki and then it's a it's not like I'm a big discovery channel fan or I don't know I just I just kept saying discovery every time that was on video to edit I'm not gonna lie did you do that one other one no I got together okay we did a good job yeah it it's it it's a neat phone um it's you know pentek is known for in my painting lower end phones you know you don't you don't see too many people out there saying you know wow check out this new pantech film yeah you know um this one's not bad it's a mid-range phone uh the best thing about it is it's 50 bucks on contract that's cheap with only on AT&T and has a 720p screen comes with android ICS so yeah it's you know a little older but if you're if you need a cheap phone it's not bad uh the coolest thing about this phone likes it besides the price i would say would be the speakers it's a really thin until you get up to the top of the phone where the speakers are and then it bulges out if you want to see what I'm talking about you check out our video on our YouTube channel and it has these massive speakers in there and they sound really really good not for what i'm talkin about let's say you're watching a movie on your on your phone and you get to a point where the audio and the movie is really loud there's an explosion or something sometimes on you know these little tiny little speakers you know you'll get some crackling or you know some just it doesn't sound perfect when there's a very loud noise he said you know i'm talking about well we watched a video and went to an explosion scene it didn't crack or anything right through that it sounded good and they're they're telling these as 3d speakers and the sound was really really nice I was impressed with it um has a four point eight inch screen dual-core 1.5 gigahertz Snapdragon s4 1 gig of ram 16gb of internal memory 12.6 megapixel camera and it has a something new called ATT drive mode so it helps you send and receive text text messages while you're driving it was pretty cool as well as full VPN and EAS support so um it's gonna be available actually starting today the 11th and from AT&T it's not a bad not a bad you know low end of mid-range phone so when we get this so when we get this phone in order for them to market the so I keep going green over here like I told you my webcam is not that great anyway um the the we get these phones they'll come with a michael bay film just built in so you can really see how that's it maybe I don't know done that's are actually interesting what to tell the tale pantech they should have start to package them with a michael bay film to show the of it is so Dan and John since you guys are the resident CPU experts let's uh talk about some non consumer products that was it more announced at the Consumer Electronics Show because as I was saying earlier you know yeah average person doesn't care about a processor but but Nvidia and what the processor can do for them yeah well draw the new these new processors are gonna do some pretty interesting stuff they're gonna they're gonna core all the things as we said in our our preview video see yes the other day so uh what do you guys think about those new Disney processors yeah I really haven't seen a whole lot on the Tegra 4 I know it's supposed to be for cortex a15 cores which is impressive Samsung can't get to to consume a little enough power to use on the phone so I'm surprised nvidia is ready to move forward with four of them and then it's set up in the same four plus one sleeper course set up that they've used in our previous ships but the sleep record this time is also a cortex a15 horns i'm doing i think was a five previously but that core is still not visible to the to the user to the system and basically you can't get stats off of it very easily at all well i don't think that i find interesting about the new Tegra 4 is the fact that it has some type of new photo technology or photography architecture and the fact that you know on a regular phone if you want to take an HDR picture there's some delay and it takes some time to process with this it's almost instant takes like two pictures and it it's instant HDR which is pretty cool and that's a benefit for people that want to take hdr not wait around for the cpu to render it you know yeah that's a really big deal i mean as a photographer HDR video for for photographers like myself consists of I'll just a green whatever the what you do is you take two different exposures of the same photo so you actually need to have like a tripod set up with the camera and do that and then in post editing you put them both together so that the exposures pop out at the same time um I always thought that HD arm phones wasn't very kind of weird to be honest because you have to take those two shots and camera phones can never really keep up but what they're saying is the Tegra 4 processor with its 72 GPU cores on the 4 cpu cores both of those both of those clusters are going to take the same picture at the same time and process them together and it's a it's going to sort of revolutionize camera film technology i'm not too sure how many i'm not too sure if it's going to become like the biggest selling point for more smartphones that come out with it or two for tablet or what for that matter but it is really exciting to see that there are some advancements in camera phone technology I think you guys remember when Google said that the nexus 10 was the fastest tablet on the market yeah well they did a direct you know side-by-side comparison of the Nexus 10 and something running the Tegra 4 and they were rendering web pages one after another after another and the Tegra 4 did it twice as fast so it just completely blew out the nexus 10 as a as the fastest you know tablet which was it very interesting and I love the fact that they you know push it forward but just kind of disappointing that it's like just chaotically it's basically you know for cortex a15 x vs 2 I mean it should be on if it threads you know in a perfect world which is not going to be a perfect pearl yeah I'm the other thing to note about the Tegra 4 is if you want LTE it's gonna be on an optional chipset for my Sarah so yeah it's probably just taking a wild guess it's probably not gonna be anywhere near as efficient as what Qualcomm's got also it does have 4k ultra high-def video support interesting it's ready for you know stuff to come so that's cool i like the fact more so that it can output that in an hdmi you know that setting as opposed on the phone yeah I mean Nvidia's sort of frequently will push things out to sort of be the first to do something ah but that's not always necessarily the best yeah hey you know if you try something the first time you know you're not always going to be the best but at least you put it out there and make that people think about it and maybe improve on it so yeah that's the only way to get over us to adopt it and and definitely converts to samsung with the current Exynos 5 which just was not very impressive yeah and then let's go over the new Qualcomm Snapdragon processors basically that it are a kind of a name change on the series was the name change for those who are keeping track of their Snapdragon processor sets yeah so you got to get a grid with two three and four you get 200 400 600 and 800 which is not to be confused with Krait 300 and create 400 mm-hmm so the two and four hundred weren't really detailed they're going to be lower end processors so obviously hath one's there Austin thusi asst you're going to care about the 600 is basically just a stepped-up version of the current s4 pro so it's the same processors tweaked for a little bit more efficiency and over clouds a little bit but otherwise pretty much the same setup I it will produce forty percent more power than the s4 pro while consuming less battery that's a nice plus mmhmm yeah I mean a lot of that power bump is coming from the clock in Cascadia increase rate you're going up to 1.9 instead of 1.5 that's big hunk it's almost thirty three percent right there and then the the 800 800 is using the new Krait 400 cores which are individually capable of running up to two point three gigahertz that's craziness four cores at 2.3 gigahertz each and that'll be a seventy percent increase from the s4 pros which is freaking crazy huge and that's also paired with the new Adreno 330 GPU so you know a joke about hey is that a server in your pocket well yeah the 30s faster like twice as fast as the 322 and it's also matched with their third generation LTE radio that supports LTE Advanced it supports LTE carrier aggregation um so a lot of new radio tech is bundled into that Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 as well another cool thing to note is the fact that Qualcomm claimed to have 50 devices set up for running the 600 and the 800 product lines which is cool just vanity yeah and that's awesome yeah in terms of timeline they're expecting devices with the 600 to be hitting the market sometime q2 and the 800 sometime probably q3 Nora and I don't have any details on the time for the tiger for work or for the when is at the Exynos 5 octa core yeah the octa-core yeah wait so Derek uh Google TVs there were a lot of them yeah interesting stuff with that so I got to play with the majority of them the Hisense TV they also had the pulse there as well but we've already reviewed the pulse the new TVs from LG a new set-top box from TLC as well as asus or a sous depending on what school you're from so let's talk about the TV's the Hisense TV it's the same specs as is the pulse they all use the same sfc the same Marvel chipset and has four gigs of storage one gigabyte of RAM 1.2 gigahertz dual-core like I said they're all the same thing now the pulse is stock Google TV it's a stock experience but the new hisense Google TV is not it slightly skinned it's it's a not as well excuse me the pulse what is that the Hisense pulse that's the set-top box ah and the Hisense TV TV is a you know it's a it's a TV that comes in between 32 and 65 inches in q1 the TV's will be available the pulse is available now just a set-top box alone for a hundred bucks TVs will range in a wide variety of prices like I sets from 32 inch to 65 inch it comes with version 3 right out of the box and the neatest thing that I saw I was most impressed with was a social stream app so you're watching TV or you're watching YouTube or whatever whatever you're doing and you have an app open you can launch the social stream app by hitting the social button on the TV and your Twitter and Facebook streams overlay so if you're watching a sporting van or something and you want to see what people are talking about you know as the as the game goes on you know you can have that right there now sadly there was no Google+ stream i was i was sad but hey not everybody knows about this network apparently Tommy hasn't loosen API to me Oh a public API is available now is that just your general stream from Twitter or is that like you know I'm watching you can do hash Talz game and it's gonna automatically pull the hashtag for that football game I don't know if it automatically pulls it but you can't but you can add a search you can add a hashtag so if you say I'm only looking for a hashtag hashtag Android you know like like that tablet that Johnathan Franklin has you know do I know I mean they'd be an interesting way to sort of add on the UI exclaiming yeah so but it's a it's related to it I mean it's not an overly extensive you know you I modification on the widgets they had some extra widgets you can put on there so you could be watching your live TV in one widget and have used you know three or four other widgets on there as well I liked it up it's definitely not bad like I said the q1 it'll be available now LG has actually one more thing about the remote the the Hisense TV remote is almost exactly the same as the pulse remote there's maybe three new buttons but it looks and feels exactly the same same dimension same to your drop design everything so if you need a new TV you know and you want a smart TV with Google built-in you have that available LG as I said has had a new TV the GAA 6400 series will be available in 42 inches to 60 inches um they have a more in-depth skin more in-depth you I it's highly customized the TV's themselves have almost no bezel at all it's they're using LG's cinema screen design is that it's a premium design to their new new models and it looks a lot sleeker and a lot more modern um as I said the UI is updated and it's slightly different from the current G to the remote as well has been slightly revamped and one thing I noticed is that I'm a big fan of plex it actually comes with Plex and flex is like a four or five dollar app so it comes with plex right out of the box that's nice plexus it allows you to stream media from your local network it actually soon Plex is going to do cloud syncing on Android as well so Google TV will actually get that in the Plex rep said that that should be coming by the end of the month but the LG TVs are very nice i was impressed in in there they're nice products I I would probably buy one if I over the over the Hisense TV um if I needed to get a new TV moving on to set top boxes yeah TLC they hold are heavy what's that cool like the TV channel The Learning Channel another music group oh they're a company from China is not the Learning Channel no it's not it's not it's not to learn it's not the learning channel just like in here you haven't heard of a company before it might be from China so yeah that's fair boy well and actually you have to you have to call it right it's not TCL I mean it's not TLC Learning Channel it'sit's TCL I oh that's so now I've heard of it right now um yes I made a mistake it's TCL it's still a company that you most likely haven't heard of kind you said because it's a small chinese manufacturer just like hisense you know there are a chinese manufacturer as well um once again all these Google TVs have nearly the same specs so you know it's the same specs as the pulse within the vizio co-star using the same Marvel system-on-chips it does have a slight skin not as much as LG's version but the coolest thing about this is they're going to come with something called personal office box which is facial recognition for personalized experiences for people in your house so right now if you use prime time it customizes you know lying uh watching habits to me so it it knows what you know what I want to watch and gives TV shows and movies based on me but my wife and I have vastly different television morphing habits you know I don't watch god what's that woman channel like I don't want I don't want to lighten up in SF I feel I don't you know did you be depressed right like crazy haha oh no another movie about cancer see that so so if we have that then we would have personalized you know habits and it recognizes by our face and say okay katie's here that's my wife's name so let's uh give her all the new latest lifetime movies or something it whatever so that's that's neat it's got a personalized experience um and in the remote is vastly different from any Google TV remote now they told me the remote is not final I actually wasn't even allowed to take a picture of it or video of it but they because the design is not final but the current design does not have a keyboard on the back so that's quite different from every other Google TV remote which she allows you to type um it's it's very very thin you know slim sleek looking oh it has it's very minimal as a few buttons on it it reminds me of a lot like a larger more butta nized Apple TV remote and the the asus qube last but not least of the google TV announcements from CES we once again you had the asus was one of the ones where you had to go to their suite in the Trump Tower on the 60 second floor to do a review so I only got to hold it in my hand and talk to the to the rap i didn't get to actually use the UI myself but i dunno i do know the specs are the exact same as the vizio co-star in the pulse once again these guys all opposition in this market what's that there's a lot of innovation in this market well their own they're all rocking the same internals basically um but the cube is different it's a cube it cost thirty dollars more than its competitors that thirty dollars what's the quarter one hisense quarter one the pulse will be getting version 3 here in a week Plex will be getting a major update to allow cloud syncing and cloud streaming so if you use like if you use box.net or dropbox you know or any of those other services you'll be able to sync your movies out there and stream them from there from your own linking of personal clouds torch but there's a lot of things happening in Google TV you know keeps changing and evolving I'm sure over the next year we'll see a lot of changes in with google TV who knows where we'll be at quick question from YouTube we're talking about this a little bit earlier pre-show um we guys think will be the first phone or tablet pushed to the market with the news nap during an 800 series I think pre-show were talking we're so tablet yeah I think they'll probably come in a tablet first but i do think it'll be in thongs thank you a phone HTC would probably be the first one to come because they're pretty tight and Qualcomm that's truly but the first the is-4 pros was not yeah that's true the LG as LG I personally think it'll be in a tablet first yeah yeah and then we'll see how on that and then they'll you know trickle-down effect oh yeah yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see it in cuz I only thought first again like it was the last four prob I want immediate ugh so that's uh do we have any community tech you know actually I'll tell you something that we did we didn't talk about him we have a very short video of it here at Android authority i don't know if it's going to be turned into a review or not i only played around it for a few minutes there's a there's a very interesting device running a rockchip i believe a processor out of China and it it's a tablet running android that looks almost as much as it can to look like Windows 8 there's two it's a tile launcher and every different home screen has tiles on it for various apps so on the home screen is you know your favorite apps and you flick to the one side and you have all your office apps flick the other side has all your games and your tools and it's a tiled interface it was a it was a from a manufacturer out of China and was it very fast and you know it was okay it was a just was a little different that's all you know it was a Windows 8 ified skin on top of Android or just something different yeah nothing too exciting in that tile all the things give yourself a bestest exposure so in terms of apps this week you know there any major real players besides chrome beta chrome beta um it's fast much faster than chrome yeah I'm curious what what's happening under the hood that it's so much faster in the Play Store no not in the place where you actually have to have a direct link yeah if you search for it won't come up so yeah yeah if yeah watch me put the link in the comments uh just so people can find it if you haven't found it yet yeah it's a faster maybe it really is there's a lot more permissions to but i try i trust google it definitely you know renders wonders large web pages faster i like it i can't wait for those changes to come downstream to the final version and you can have them both installed too unlike the desktop version you know you can't have both installed you can have both beta channel in the stable channel installed this is like the people that were happiest or notice the biggest difference for people with like dual core phones or say like a Galaxy Nexus or something along those lines or another thing might have just been crowing was just really just pushing it to the mat I don't think we want to notice as much if your online account or chrome is not that power hungry or it shouldn't be that shouldn't be no no but uh it seems like those are the users that are because I mean I noticed a little bit of difference on my note 2 but it chrome wasn't nearly a slow monotube as it was on my galaxy taxes it was night and day curls that's a one-loss calling about ces for those of you that didn't get a chance to go um wow we walked a lot oh I think I developed shin splints I don't know know know that the my legs were killing me by the end of the week feed for me man it was someone tried to give us a tip no not to bring backpacks and I think it was right cuz oh my goodness yeah Chris see will said to not bring backpacks he said to bring it you know like I could carry on luggage jim has like a little stroller on it yeah we only ate a lot of really good food um we we had a lot of fun the evenings though there's a lot of partying to be done you know you had to work hard all day review in tech and then you got rewarded to stay out until the Sun came up partying it made for a that they made for an interesting few days it was a good time I said I'd it for time at Josh actually the first time I met everybody from the android authority team we we all had a hell with time together knows it was good yeah it was really great to meet the whole team and everybody and I'm really looking forward to the next time we all get to get together and do it you know we need to make it you know android authority meet up and maybe we've invite invite dan and Scott and John along next time you know absolutely tag belongs just like third wheels actually I've met I met I've met damn before uh met John if we're having met Scott damned if I want to do that he's angry but anyway alright well the cisco working we're gonna everybody finest I because we're watching us right now probably watching us on 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it looks good yep alright guys have a good night and have a good weekend so