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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm dare cross and I am Scott Anderson this week we're joined with Christopher walk AKA wookie a fellow team member from android authority and we're also joined with returning guest Johnathan Franklin welcome guys what's up man how's it going not wiki I'm sorry I'm gonna call you wookie the whole shell that's absolutely fine that's where else knows ah it's good to have you here man wookie a wookie is now a close personal friend of mine we we met we bonded at CES we were roommates we we drank beer together we we walked around in we walked around and filmed all sorts of cool android stuff together um he's the guy that tried to make my bad interview skills look good so I still think they were good interview skills you know what is YouTube comments are harsh I know I'm not an interviewer in person I know how to do this and hangouts an interview but when I'm put on the spot saying hey what's this device and tell me all about it and I don't know about it you know I I had a hard time my stuff to do I don't think I don't think a lot of people would have done any better in that situation to be fair you tube can be harsh on some of the most impressive videos you've ever seen in your life oh come on YouTube comments yeah they're always 0 very insightful click read it yeah I mean half the battle was the fact that you have to deal with all those media people too and some of them knew what they're talking about some of them didn't oh yeah so all right let's get started so what do we have on a plate this week here um well we have a little bit of Android ecosystem news as always Larry Page said some funny stuff oh yeah we'll talk about that a little bit we have all sorts of app updates as usual you know the usual google updated handful apps and a handful of other useful apps that will talk about were released this week and updated this week as well a little bit of carrier news and then we're going to spend the bulk of the show talking about routing and ramen we had one of our viewers this past week asked us you know what are some benefits of rooting and we've moved gone over this in the show before but he wanted to know more about you so once you root and you put on a custom rom let's say is that is that the only reason that is that the only reason that you root it or you know so what are some of the must have root apps or why do these apps and require root and some apps don't you know what is the benefit of using a root app so what will be s about that and try to answer any questions any you guys have as well as answer his questions so what you can do is you can go ahead and queue up some questions on our comments on this post or I'm going to announce it every week i say i'm going to now let's forget you can join in on the IRC channel that we've had for eons and we've never used so we're gonna we're going to start trying to use that just because why the hell not so I put the web chat link in the comments it's also it's just freenode kirk IRC and channel android authority we have a handful of people already there and ready so I'll all right so let's get started Scott's ensure the the app guy you want to talk about some some apps that were updated this week and then we'll hit Larry Page here in a minute right yeah i'll start off with chrome beta for android basically has gotten three updates in the past week so it was launched on the 10th then got another update and today it just got another update it is improving speed and less bugs that's basically what I get out of it I mean it is increasingly becoming quicker and more usable than the stable built in my opinion which typically you know with the desktop dev channel is typically faster a little more bugs I don't see many bugs in the in the beta but they're getting rid of them so that's awesome he has he starting to use a chrome beta and all yeah I've been using it since uh since it did dropped and I've gotten the two or three updates however many has had so far and you know idiot keeps getting better and better personally I haven't seen any issues but some people they have it it works great i love it it's faster it's noticeably faster you know it then the current version of of android I've actually replaced it as my and I said Android current version of chrome mom I've actually replaced it as my main browser I actually uninstalled the standard chrome today and said you know what I'm done it works good enough for me so I only have chrome beta on my phone right now and on my Nexus ever came here I do that I'll install today they'll stay alive in the mango I'm sorry do it I've got to admit on lame I've been using the standard version but after hearing you guys talk about it i think i might switch over to the beta and see what's up there yeah i mean it will you know we're used to running things in beta you know that's just uh it's stable enough for for government work you know yeah that's that's why i feel kind of silly about it but uh I just it's it's worked well enough I haven't noticed anything I don't like but uh on the other hand on use to running cutting-edge rom so I probably should switch over to something a bit more on the edge just because what I'm used to yeah exactly you know you know and we'll talk about those cutting-edge rom things in a little bit yeah so I google currents got an update as well bug fixes as usual reduced data usage and also edit an unsubscribe to the over overflow menu which is nice and you can really do that easily before so what those are you than a rock and ingress we're going to actually give away some some anchors invites here in a little bit Dominic to we have to to give away so you know and we're going am I going to give up the codes and butcher it or are we gonna have somebody else came up the codes yeah I think we learned a couple months ago you're not allowed to give anything away nope so I still think of something I think you do one of two things I haven't decided yet it's either going to go to the first person person that answers a question correctly or just going to have an all-out war and I'm going paste him in the comments the first person that gets it gets it wars are fun questions are cool too i haven't decided what I'm going to do but so anyways so ingress was updated this week bug fixes yada yada but some neat things that improve memory usage in it the app actually runs a lot better on some various devices such as devices with Adreno GPUs so it's going to run better gonna run a little faster better graphics and XMP explosion animation is actually kind of cool now but it they nerfed bursters uh they don't do as much damage anymore so that kind of stinks if you're you know you're trying to take over something the damn enlightened you know I gotta gotta resist got gonna take over your your fields anyways up derek is obsessed you know hyper but you know when I've got a busy week I would actually play ingress in a week Scott so uh oh you're gonna hear me last week when I was out at CES I when I first got there I met when I first got there but a few hours after I go out there I pulled out my phone I was looking for portals and I'd send a message was like don't worry uh you know Las Vegas you know I'm here to save the day or something like that you know i mean and i didn't i didn't even get at I was too busy geeking out and party and actually playing Grissom they all think I don't think it plays like CES you wouldn't even have a chance of having an impact I know I know how many people there were probably doing the same thing right good many I'm sure there's me a lot of people here was just reaping havoc yeah so airdroid popular remote control Android app I I don't actually use it but it was updated this weekend are you guys actually using a AirDroid we'll talk about it yeah android i used the original non beta version basically what it is it's a application that you if you're on the same Wi-Fi network you can go to your browser go to a predetermined website and login with your phone and basically it mirrors everything so you can access your messages your contacts your photos your videos to them to your PC very easily and basically what this version came out with was you can see your camera kind of a remote control camera so you can hook up your phone to it and in your browser you can see like a video camera from your camera which is kind of cool if you're like doing surveillance or something kind of cool a lot of cool features added and I don't use it all the time but it is nice for file transferring on large files and certain things oh yeah it's pretty cool so what all the weather apps we have updated this week Scott since you're here app guy I'm going to give this one to two Franklin press to google reader application get update it's pretty significant this is an app that launched in december um they basically answer the majority of the quest all the requests that all the users head off the initial version you get quick autumn article navigation to go to next and previous articles you can set background on automatic syncing based on time interval and you can limit it done either Wi-Fi only or sell better you can sync on app launch now you get sinking notifications text alignment options and just a lot of other various low performance and abscess and bug fixes are typical with an update but it's it's turning into a really nice full feature now I used to find it looks it's beautiful out I used to use google reader until um I got my nexus 7 master users on the web but in terms of an Android app I don't use it anymore once i got my nexus 7 i tried to move over to Curren and I like currents now i use currents every day I kinda had to force myself to like it and now I actually do but I miss sometimes the simplicity of reader so I might have to check out press I've heard about it but some people were saying they wanted some extra features and now it sounds like and the developer team is pretty active and there they've been very responsive and very you know they've approached it with a good attitude so you know it's me up a doubt but I'd say it's totally worth it no how much how much is in the Play Store um I think it's two dollars dollar my lady then okay that's not too bad that's not bad especially not for not for what you're getting out of it I socrate out yeah just going to ask you guys as somebody who does use google reader would you recommend checking out press because I'm willing to spend the two bucks on it seems interesting I'm not a fan occurrence I kind of prefer the more I would say if you're the type of user to burn through a lot of RSS feeds press probably isn't the one you're going to you know if you want really compress list of taking a lot of content at the same time I wouldn't say presses your app I'd say goes more like greader or you know dear read or some of the newer ones like they're just minimal readers good to press is good if you're following fairly condensed not extremely overloaded you know with a ton of articles to have to go through it's it's a great ass yeah I probably read about 300 articles a day so I want to say press would be your favorite reader if those if you're burning through that much news it's not the quickest way to do anymore yeah well let's get that's good to know all right so apparently a very popular banking app was launched on Android and John you were talking a little bit about this pre show it's called simple and they what they work with with banks to bring online Mangareva um I forget the exact way that they split it split the interest with the partner banks to in order to actually make their money the applications built iOS for about eight months and they just now came out with an android version it's working that the service itself is still invite only you're gonna have to put your name on the list or be a customer already but the Android app is this is not a port it's written from scratch specifically for Android you say it's a beautiful application is it a hollow app very much so oh you know I mean not 150 know they get there did their own customizations but not ugly or gaudy ways so do we out do we have you know Android share but I guess you if I don't have a share button in a bank it has everything you expect on holo just aghast of the bad we had the menu off the top right corner we don't have those more customer not just straight up like all the light or whatever yeah that's fine that's fine all right you know a lot of apps I was talk I always talk about turntable you know and uh in Flipboard whenever it was in beta when those two apps came over from iOS they were just straight up you know iOS ports you know they looked exactly like in iOS they didn't look like that you were on Android and since then they've completely redone those apps and now they look a lot more Android II enjoyed esque you're not going to get any feel of iOS to this application that just has like it's all little gradients all right there so who doesn't like cloud storage I live in the cloud I store all my docs all my music and with google music you know everything in the cloud mediafire a popular file sharing file hosting i guess and then sharing application uh released their android app and it's not bad it's not horrible for their first dog first run actually i think they had an update already but it's not bad for their initial release you know it has everything that you would normally want in an appt minus I'd say two key features one it's not a hollow app ah and two if you want to sink a whole bunch of files you can't multi select you have to manually select so that's kind of stinks but it's a nice app and the coolest thing about its 50 gig so that's a lot of space you know I mean if you need space 50 gigs impede it's free yeah and they do have paid plans if you want more and so forth 50 gigs got box to get a lot of users that otherwise would have been on dropbox yeah also a kind of a lesser service but minus it's a good service that I use as well i got fifty gigs online as well oh yeah everybody gives you this you know the free fifteen yeah you know you got mine is she got sugarsync you know yeah there's everything has so much personal personal cloud storage available now we just need to get some really nice apps that throw everything together into one like massive drive so you can you know you don't have to say you know we're more like sharing that file then I'm Dropbox or is that on- you know it just puts everything together in onedrive and have a napper i know i know there's apps available but they're not I'd like to have a remote control out so the server would download it you are held at I point to it instead of having a door load up my computer and then upload to it just shoot it directly over yeah that'd be nice alright so so let's uh let's take a break from talking about boring apps here and go back to talk about the Android ecosystem here and uh so Larry Page recently was interviewed and during the interview you know they said so how how do you think apples thermal nuclear war is going on Android and yeah he basically said whoa so how does it look like it's going we tell me you know when seventy percent some insert massive insanely high number here of the mobile market is running on Android how do you think they're their nuclear war is going you know I mean it was it was pretty aggressive on the whole and well I'm not really aggressive but uh very confident in that entire view now i like i like seeing that out of oh yeah yeah it directly said that facebook is doing a bad job on their products and for the reason he's right yeah basically what he did for for me is kind of just getting me excited about you know what's coming next and you know how they come bad other thing he did mention that a lot of other platforms were copying or using the same features that are used in Google Plus which was very interesting and very true but it's good to be noted that he or them as a company are bringing up the other platforms and giving users you know more competition and more features which all in all great for users no matter what platform you're on so you know this week it must be a slow week when I haven't a whole lot of interaction in the comments so I think we need to do something to to give away in engrish code and get those comments flowing so so let's uh let's let's think of a question here let's think of a question surrounding ingress since it is an ingress code giveaway I'd Scott why I get a question here won't you talk about Oh a little bit about carbon not not the routan and ramen carbon or not the backup carbon the other carbon orgy on Johnny yeah so the on you know rumored continually rumored Twitter application and this is an application existed on web OS and windows for short windows phone for a short time and he randomly you know posted on his twitter said we're back we're listening in this application has been promised for over a year and it's been over six months since the first release window came and went so you know take it with a grain of salt and he said you know he says it's coming he said it's coming before just keep your eyes open I obviously think with a it seems like Falcon pro for most of the people that are heavily using Twitter seems to be extremely popular every user that uses it seems extremely happy with it it's going to be hard to present anything that's you know the this of all the good Twitter apps Falcon pro just doesn't really seem to do a whole lot wrong into users eyes so and Falcon colony of the 12 it didn't take really that long from it to go from the ADA that you know it started off as a widget and nobody really cared about it when I was a widget and then it had its beta app and then all of a sudden it's one of the biggest Twitter apps on Android in this the same have been not even two months yes the same developer that did a minimal reader the exact same way it started off as a widget and people liked it so much that they just decided to take it to a full bowl and app it's a great app by both of great apps yeah it's the only Twitter client I I use now I spent a long time going through a lot of them and actually I don't use twitter that much but still when i do i use a falcon bro its top not really so Derek you want to elaborate on pushes version of course so so there's another carbon available up maybe a week ago two weeks ago on the show we talked about kousha you know from clockworkmod was coming up with a way to sync android app data and then and backup data to your to the cloud to cloud storage locations as well as well you can download locally on your your computer on your local network so he came he really you big then it comes and kind of like oh wait that's that's it yeah so it's a fun yeah they're coming out with another iteration I believe in a 24 of January so we are back now we have a technical difficulty we're back yeah so well let's let's make sure that we are actually viewable again and technical difficulty is over hey all right we're back so okay so we'll give you a few seconds here then we're gonna give away in ingress makers code I decided that because I had the technical difficulty people might not be synced up right now so I don't want to say a question in and the hang out here on the show because someone might not be watching it but people are watching comments you know look at the notification so what I'm going to do is I'm just going to create all sorts of havoc here so what you want to do is you want to open your ingress app right about now and you want to go to the original android authority post sharing this on google+ not a reshare not on youtube and you want to find that post it says I android authority on air episode 47 coming up on one year and you want to look for the code that is now in chat and good luck that's gets code number one the end of the scale will think something more exciting I promise all right so let's let's move on to some meat here let's talk about some carrier news is that me all right so carriers are continuing to LTE all the things we know this you know that that's that's pretty much what they're in the that's what they're doing right now and sprint announced that 28 new LTE markets are going to be going live in the next few months seeing as they are one of the smaller LTE deployments that's cool and the smallest LTE deployment here in the US t-mobile you know because they don't have any but they may announced that sort of bad when you're behind metropcs yeah but their hspa+ network extremely fast you know so they don't really need LTE but but but they're not a student that they really do not need LTE well maybe for better ping times and faster uploads that's really about it lte-advanced basically so their roadmap is there for their LTE rollout it's kind of similar to their hspa+ rollout they're gonna hit large metropolitan areas first and the first places they're looking at our Las Vegas in Kansas City and that should be coming in a few days and the rollout is kind of mirrored to their hspa+ and what they did with that yeah so they're going to be blanketing the markets that they currently have fast hspa+ all right so let's get to the to the routan in ramen section the show like I said earlier if you didn't catch it we had a user contact us this past week you wanted to know you know what are some of the tools some of the reasons for for routing and once you root then what you know what apps can you use what are some of the available apps what are some of the apps that we use is people that you have rooted devices do root devices there is a go to root app or do we just route just to run custom rom and maybe or just to remove carrier in OEM crap and and that's it you know what what do we do once we root so we've talked about similar stuff like this on the show um you know why or why not and that's really up to you so what I want you do let us know in the comments why you root and what apps you use and then we'll we'll compare that to our list here in a minute so if you're watching let us know why you root you know what reason not just to you know cuz I can it has to be an underlying reason and then let us know what what apps you use but what are your favorite root apps apps that require root access so as we asked our viewers that in the comments let's let's ask those guys Johnathan Franklin that and uh so John let's say you say you have a TV installed you have fastboot installer or you have the unlocker toolkit or you know insert application name here to root your phone whatever it may be I know your your note 2 was a little harder than the most as well as of the HTC your DNA exploit required for the variety yeah yeah so some phones are easier the root another some tablets are easier to route than others if it's a Nexus device you look at it and it routes itself almost um the majority of Samsung devices are pretty easy yeah with with Odin I guess oh yeah so that some devices are you know will say scale one to ten one being the hardest 10 being easiest somewhere you know I guess that's kind of backwards man in there so so morally like like a one to ten scale 10 being the easiest there are 10 and those are your Nexus devices then you have you know Sony devices with unlocked bootloaders and Samsung devices what locked bootloaders they may take a few extra steps will say that maybe like a seven or an eight then you have you know some mid-range devices on carriers that they don't want you to unlock the bootloader but there's an easy exploit for it you know maybe that's like a you know four or five and then you have things that are locked down tighter than anything you've ever seen before they're eventually going to get unlocked but you have they're not for the the the everyday average day you know user you know you it's something that if you do a step wrong you could brick your phone and those are the ones that you might want to stay away from if you're not experienced you know if it's a five or lower will say there's a general there's a very that you can't you know you can't hurt your device in that case I mean it's so easy and especially if the Nexus device you can't break those I mean there's you really can't you have to try your damnedest you have to really true say huh owner brick this thing today like you know and you maybe you try to install in it t you want or something I don't know what you do it but but it a Nexus device is really hard to brick but anyway so like you know the HTC DNA is pretty hard to root compared to other device is the the DNA I just said that the what do you have John the note 2 yeah you know on verizon you know that that's a little harder than normal so anyways so you spend all those laws tend to be very careful yes a zit on xmas phone droid droid droid x was easy ran z4root a peacock when it got the gingerbread oh I got the gingerbread oh yeah when I got the gingerbread update you had to use Pete's something was horrible know what I remember here so many people that break that phone I know you know you could always SPF that thing back to stop that thing I was almost unbreakable all right so anyways right so unworkable for referred some people anyways so John you spend all this time your risk ruining advice what's the first thing you do when ever you whenever you read it what did you do um usually the first thing I'd do if I'm on it depends on what oh it way depends on the phone it depends on cuz uh back when I had my Nexus I just I just unlocked the bootloader and rooted it stock and there really wasn't a lot that I want to do to it at first I just wanted to have I did install a custom recovery and pretty much left it like that with the note 2 usually and it also apply adela other you know other carrier falls i had titanium backup she's the first thing i do to freeze applications and there's not a it depends on the phone as to what applications i really want whether i wanna Colonel do i want to flash a custom kernel I've been pretty happy with the stock kernel on the note 2 because the battery life on it's just you know really really good all right well was worth two apps let's just kind of go through the apps yeah there's plenty apps you know them yeah I mean there's a GM d gesture control so what is it what does that do ah basically it allows you to create your own custom gestures whether it be one finger to finger three finger for finger or if you want to do like a two finger tap one finger tab basically touch interface customize it to the nth degree and its really really nice there's a lite version so you can try it out if you want the only thing about the lite version is the fact that it has a non killable status bar notification so if you want to buy it that goes away but it's really nice you can do a lot of different things but it's fun to play around with two gu manager there's another app that i install download manager has multiple functions for those of you that don't know it's a good manager raw manager you know that they install custom recoveries such as twerp and clockworkmod depending on which app you're using and they also provide rom updates for supported roms and that they let you in install Iran through automated automated steps so if you're not I think everybody that you know is it should be familiar with it in the beginning and then you can get lazy and use automation but it I think it's nice to to do it manually in the beginning so you're learning as you go in case you ever encounter a problem you're not relying on something so anyways it Scott was saying ague manager and then rom manager they they allow you to you know install your apps you can you can pick your I'm sorry you're wrong though install it for you basically you know you can automate it is now another benefit to rooting and ramen is uh kernels he can flash your own kernel you can check out kernels on forums and flash away don't those either don't know what kernels are because a lot of people don't uh Colonel is think of it as the piece of the software the piece of the rom the piece of Android that's actually the Linux piece that communicates with the hardware it's a it sits between the hardware and in Android and it infinite basically so why would you want to install a custom kernel the main thing is battery life and performance what people will do is go undervolt something those steel juice basically from something whether that be you know the you know Wi-Fi Bluetooth you know audio you know what are the actual processor itself now though humble undervolt something hardware to use less battery power under voting not giving it as much juice means if you have a longer lasting battery and a lot of times it's like it's a gamble you know because not every phone can be under voted the same way no obviously they're all stamped out in the same factory but you might be a you might be over under vote your DNA Wookiee more than I can undergo Mont and vice versa that's just how it is so you got it under voting really requires you know a lot of playing around but you can get a lot of battery life out of it you can and as well as overclocking to increase you know graphic performance increase which increase overall phone performance as well so some people will have a kernel that's overclocked and under fold that people will say oh SI and UV like in the in and the colonel notes and you can also have additional you know functions at it as well you can change like the read/write speeds priority for certain things yeah you can also run like more power if you are on a poor Wi-Fi connection it'll get push more power to the Wi-Fi and allow a better connection also fast USB charge that's it ya think of it I mean just extra tweaks um yeah so but you don't you don't have to run a custom kernel or you can all the custom kernel and then not touch any of that stuff you just use the written you know the recommended settings will say yeah some popular cuddles franco.kernel lean Colonel Tim it which you know you know what about kernels where in the hell is Dan Charlton he is our Colonel dev and uh oh yeah he he would be mrs. the one hang out that he could really elaborate on yeah here we go damn it i go 467 HTC devices you know and and the next is for all right so what other root apps are out there Scott Wi-Fi tether for root users I use that one personally it allows you to let's say you're going to start your Wi-Fi tether limited by amount of time so how long it's been running you can turn it off after a predestinated amount of time or you can turn it off after a pre-designated amount of data so let's say you're opening a Wi-Fi tether let's say you gotta a limit on your data plan or you only want to give out so much data you can allow it to give out to the public and limit it by how much data you want to give it's kind of cool also you can just you know state your passwords and stuff like that pretty cool stuff widgets everything um titanium backup I would say that's probably one of the number one reasons that people route now there are alternatives to that such as simple a DB backup which I shared a post about that earlier than carbon kousha zap that we were talking about soon will allow backups without root so it's becoming us not as so much as a priority is you know I would say you know back in the day you know you somebody would say yeah i rooted my XYZ device so i could use titanium backup to backup my game data or my acne you know insert app here might this app data and so titanium backup was a very popular reason for people to root it's becoming less top of a paid apps list yeah yeah it's becoming less uh-oh as soon i would say it'll become you know less of a requirement almost this is something that Google show done long ago is create some kind of desktop software well you know I hate to say it but this is one thing where iOS actually has android beat this iOS you know with IPA yeah you have to install itunes but you know what I don't have a android software named to install that I can sync all my stuff too so I OS does have us beat there and then that's nice have I ever used it no I'd have never used an iOS device but I know it's available so I that you know it maybe we'll see that someday who knows um another appt at away uh basically if he got root privileges you can write host files to reject that IP or that host and so what that does is it a little technical but you know nerd info here so what it does is in your hosts file it writes let's say a website a company a domain that is known to serve advertisements it changes the IP address in locally to be resolved to a local address so if the IP addresses for example you know one but two three four if that's the I IP address of big at company com so in your hosts file you'll put big ad company com and have it resolved to localhost a lot of time and local host is you know is 127 dot 0 dot 0 dot one so it just makes the these being resolved locally and obviously you're not running an ad server on your phone and they don't work the same practice has been used for years and years on desktop computers you know when you install i don't know like Spybot Search and Destroy user area I used to do that years ago so I know if you guys are familiar with that SMD the another probably another application this is available on non rooted devices but gains functionality when rooted or applications like Tasker a locale because after gingerbread came up you had to have root access to be able to control the GPS module and do other things so it really kind of expands your ability to take full control over your device and create certain actions and certain circumstances that will create a trigger to pretty much automate your entire device and route really is a requirement to get one hundred percent functionality out of an application like that another one is Wi-Fi kill this one's a kind of a gray area well yeah so the next couple apps I want to talk about our this Scott said gray area apps you can use them for for evil or you can use them for for good I'm all that can be used for good I know exactly how they can be used for good so let's say a Wi-Fi kill how can that be used for you life I kill let's say I'm I'm I'm I'm a day I am a dad let's say I'm an older dad that hasn't us a son that's a teenager and he's all why we were going with this and I don't want him to be using Wi-Fi anymore cuz he's grounded he was he's being bad so I'm going to be and I'm going to be a tech mean dad and I'm gonna open up Wi-Fi kill and i'm gonna nothing to use it to drop his network connection on his device so it does have a good use it does I mean is there any other good uses you know who knows or you could use it to wreak havoc too i'm not suggesting you do but you know that workplaces those are you know that obviously you know you don't have to to do bad things so that it can be used for good as well maybe you have a connection a dead connection on your home network and you don't know what it is you know it you know you want to kill it to make sure you know you don't have a neighbor or something using your network which you should lock those down anyway so that should never happen um droid a sheep yeah and face sniff those those applications are rude only applications and to be honest with you I'm having a tough time thinking of why those apps can be used for good right now um penetration tests I guess they can be used to as a proof of concept in your for your company's website that ah that they're not using proper ssl encryption there you go there there's the so what do they do man I didn't use those apps and like two years oh it does is on the unknown your Wi-Fi network if it's not as SSL encrypted let's say somebody logs into facebook you mean in the middle attacks is what they do this is mostly gonna happen if you're in a place like starbucks or something that will open at work it's the only place of our choosing network as well I'm trying to think of the actual term for that I mean how I actually wrote an article a year ago on Google+ talking all about them and how they worked what they did I don't remember the actual I mean yeah what they actually do how they actually work that's pretty bad alright so so there you go in the comments let me know what they're actually doing for how they're actually hijacking the ssl session I don't remember exactly what they're not doing router spoofing there or maybe they are there's they're spoofing mac address spoofing or that's a tarp records they're doing ARP ARP spoofing okay there we go sorry I can't give away the ingress code for that I will pick us up okay um which if you block router broadcasting all you networking mins out there if you block router broadcasting and router acknowledgement requests these applications actually won't work on your network so just a little hint you can turn this off that's my that's my day job coming out there um now there's another app that it has a gray area to this really app that that I like I've actually used before it's a penetration testing app by a company called simpie reham out of Israel the the application is called anti anti I at stand it used to stand for I think they changed their name they'll used to stand for the Android network toolkit and it's awesome it me yeah it can be used for bad but it's not intended to do that they actually debuted mmm maybe two years ago at Def Con and you know actually I worked on the beta on that the private beta and a whole bunch of us from me you I the US worked on it and we all got private beta access and was it was testing and I was being developed and it was a lot of fun um but the applications are used for penetration testing or or for bad but the is depending only on how you use it but they do man-in-the-middle attacks they do they'll scan your whole network and show you on your whole network where a vulnerability is so for unit unit network mins or even home computers you have a bunch of computers you want to test out to see which windows machines aren't patched it scans for known you know vulnerabilities and so forth and it'll pop up on little icon showing you hey machine 1 2 3 is vulnerable and then you can see which attacks it's susceptible to and then you can go patch it or not location like that i know linux discharge you do but uh you have to have a custom kernel passed up for injecting for being able to eject packets into it no it uses a man I'm having a brain fart tonight what is that network application that I used to use all the time for for doing since cans um oh man okay I'll thank you there you go there's your ingress I think except fight okay I'm not going to think of this with what ingress invite it's a network tool what am I thinking of you you could God you can go their website and download the application ever for windows to but um in Linux the application said most people actually use this in Linux and an anti actually had it embedded in their application it and that's how they were able to do the the scans what is that call okay so there you go what is that what am I talking about what am i babbling in here I think I know you're talking about but I don't want to say it now because it's part of it i will keep typing in chat see if i'm right or see if you're right what is that called nmap matt flynn inflaming got it and then go yep and what wire sharks are good on too i use wireshark now I don't use n map anymore but uh you know nmap you're a hundred percent right all right so i will message you Matt you're I can't believe couldn't think of that and that yeah I will uh yes so anti installs uh or your users and map scanning to uh well this used to get happy of seeing a WP encrypted network and just going going at it with air crack no we're not oh man tonight's a brain fart she'll tell you that right now it's all that partying wiki that we did their week and a half ago you know it's probably it's still taking a toll on me so all right Matt I will get you your code here messaging T now where we might have it down the second what was already made on the 24-minute and his was posted 38 seconds but in IRC we have somebody posted 24 but we don't know the seconds I we're not watching IRC for that pirate ghost did say in that be aware we're watching the carpenter coast sorry Paris fire see only had a second counter sorry dude you can probably find with a time stamp but for all good reasons rope for ad yeah now we're with sorry we said in the beginning the show we were only doing it for the the comments on the Hangout so we could you know watch all watch that oh no that's mad flash oh he's on IRC as well oh ok well there you go mad i just also just sent you the code there happy ingre singh if that's a word alright so so less brain farts so back to you know all this stuff i used to do and i just don't do anymore alright so per app DPI of it mods you know custom roms and so forth john will talk a little bit about you know what / at BP is what does that mean dual all the custom rom that really started doing this was called paranoid android and this is something that really became doable after android for because android for urging the phone and tablet code and it does really similar to a web page where you have a custom layout based upon the DPI of a device you know income you know it's all kind of controlled by the manifests of the application itself in a communications the build.prop and other properties so anyway perhaps is basically a framework that doesn't break applications that allows you to trick an application into thinking that your phone may be a 7-inch tablet or the layout of a 10x example and some of the modules and roms themselves give you pretty significant control over just how much you can get the layout set up as well as the size of the text in my case i have a galaxy note 2 and a lot of applications such as Gmail if you give it a layouts very similar to what like a nexus 7 would have you really get a lot more content and really don't have to you know be in certain parts of the application about yes you can break the application under fragments and have your inbox on all those listed and the actual mail record silence down to go in a portion of it happen back out and then go to another one so there are a lot of again applications that really benefit from a tablet layout if you have a phone with a screen real estate to take advantage of it and it can be a pretty cool thing to play around with and that's all programmable with the DPI per app in the rom settings uh yeah well paranoid Android's is a proprietary APK but there's a really the most polished okay ethic and you control it the application is very very simple you can actually go into interface and send it across system-wide to say a phablet you I tablet UI that you know gives the whole system properties like the whole user interface on your launcher your applications or you can go in and edit apps individually which is what I would recommend because honestly tablet layout on our phones really sucks as far as the small assets and but from there just have fun with it because there are a lot of apps can benefit from it I needed to stop turn on Android I haven't tested that out yet I haven't ran in a while I can't you know what wookie whenever that is the wrong I'm going to run on our phone whenever we get AOSP support or AOSP a is they're calling it um i paranoid android looks awesome the new version i haven't written in a while but i'm going to put it on my nexus 7 probably this weekend just to play with that pie they're extinct expanded desktop and the pie radio menu it looks pretty awesome I'm excited to try that out and then hey maybe next week I'll give a you know what Scott's and sheer rock in the nexus 4 o YN x 7 tube why don't you put it on your Nexus 4 and I'll put it on my Nexus 7 maybe we'll do a little mini review on air next week about it it sounds good yeah so while speaking of devices let's stop talking about routing and rami apps here um we had a question from one of our one of our longtime viewers I like saying that he wanted to know what we thought about Sony saying they only want to they're only going to make high-end phones now they're only going to focus on the high end of the market um so let's just we haven't heard from walking a while so wiki Sony said you know we're only gonna be baller we're gonna we're only gonna work on ballerstatus phone so what do you think of that um I think it's a good thing really uh that said because you know I've seen some of the lower end Sony phones a couple years back and they're really nothing to write home about and on the other hand I think we could really use a company that's just focused on providing really high-end hardware and nothing but and having seen some of that Sony stuff at CES it seemed like they're pretty well poised to be doing high-end phones um we haven't seen them really in the real world yet but some of the verses and just some of the hands-on we got to do it seemed like some pretty impressive hardware and if that's where they're starting I'm kind of looking forward to seeing where they're going to go after that the Z and ZL look amazing yeah they do yeah I i would i would understand that I wasn't there we offer yesterday actually old one because I would run 1 John I you know there's a information came out today about I'm going to be wrong when what country so i'll just say somewhere in europe and help an LTE version of the Xperia Z or Z L one of the two it showed up somewhere with an LTE radio so that made me you know twitch four seconds and wait a second LTE hmm I wonder uh you know I wonder if we would see you know a verizon cdma LTE Sony then I thought no we've never seen one never my period the Xperia Play was a disaster yeah I i would i would use that phone i will get rid of my DNA and i would i get the xperia z it looks for exactly i was just about to say that as a DNA owner I love my DNA but if I had my chance to get the hands on the z2 if I had the chance to get my hands on the Z I would do it in a second it really looks that good and you know what we we need somebody out there that's only focusing on high-end devices and to be known for the high-end devices because right now every manufacturer makes I observed all tears but yeah they making a low-end crap phones that they come with a year and a half old operating system on then they'll never get updated beyond you know a six month you know patch then then they have mid-range phones that come with a year old operating system that will get updated you know once in the next year then you have a high-end device that if you're lucky you know it'll get to updates and and and and that's really it and you know we really Samsung's really about the Holy manufacturer that can make any profit doing that because they control their entire supply chain well yeah I mean that's say why do you think Samsung has every size imaginable of tablet and phone because it's Brandi they can so Samsung you know they make high-end devices mid-range devices mid high range devices low high range I mean that you know they don't care they're just they make everything and I think it would be nice to have a company that you say you know what yeah you want the best of the best well right now you people you look towards uh maybe like the s4 as a benchmarking or the book at a nexus phone to be a benchmark or something like that or the look at I the latest iPhone to be a benchmark it would be nice to say here's androids benchmark you know it's the it's the selling line the sony doesn't really have any kind of negative reputation to have to overcome they're gonna think Brandon to consumers I think they're they're in a position to do it as much as anybody the mic Mike's jealous of all of our Nexus 7 so I got a nexus 7 scott has one John actually got one at the big Android BBQ wookie give a nexus 7 i'm even own a tablet you don't want a tablet you know what I I when I had to my old acer iconia tablet I kind of had to force myself into using it you know is one of those things where I was like you know I paid 30 bucks for this thing you know I bought it because it was cheap is my first tablet I kind of bought a low-end model but you know I forced myself to use it but now you know I love my Nexus 7 I use it almost every day I you know it I love it I don't have to force myself to use it it's part of my normal routine now I came here I think about buying a nexus 7 all the time the only reason I keep holding off now is because I think we might see something better soon oh yeah the nexus 7 7 months or six months old so but the thing is it's cheap and it's just something that you can throw around and it's fast and I mean it's really just kind of a pick it up and go typed a look at this way in five months is il and that movie and then the nexus 7 will be a year old so we'll see you know I'm sure we'll have a something exciting to tell don't want to buy next yeah I wonder if they'll keep on pushing down the you know the low spec low-cost what I wouldn't see why not they they're selling a million of them a month yeah I'm curious to see what they come out with I'll but I'll buy a new version of nexus 7 to where we here or whatever we're gonna wear like that latest rumor that we didn't even talk about because I don't believe it I on exes 7.7 and that's that stupid we're not going to seeing it yet that that seems dumb I don't know what and what I do with my current 1i just give it away to somebody that I mean it's poor here's a thought what if we do see an X is 7.7 it just gets rid of that massive bezel that's on the current nexus 7 need the bezel you think yeah it's just so much like you need the bezel or you need a better way of eliminating false touches kind of like what wha that because people hold tablets differently than you oh yeah and what Windows is trying to do with their cancellation or whatever um not really working amazingly but uh yeah the bevels nice as much as it looks like a low-end device with the bevel um you need the bevel I totally agree because the ipad mini a barely any bevel yes and this one reason why the but the note 2 and the phones and all that oh my god this is so big is because you're expected to hold it like a full yeah you're expected to wrap your hand around it actually use your finger to you know where the Nexus 7 is up designed to be two-handed device alright well I think I think about ready to call it an evening we we've extended our welcome to say if you guys have any other questions comments anything he wants to to hit on real quick let us know if not without further ado wiki it was great to have you in here mom like not back then yeah yeah I'd like to have you back again you know and then you have some good stuff to say I'd like to have you back you know if you do want to in the following weeks you know let us know how you make it will get you in here and we have some good talking point set up for you to hit on and and you're gonna you're gonna be doing a lot of reviews for us here to android authority right you're doing a lot of video reviews and written reviews right oh yeah I've got a lot of stuff queued up already yeah so would be I think it'd be nice to have you on the show to give a little teaser about some things you're planning on reviewing have reviewed you did a versus on you know just a I think that'd be good and then for more information they can hit your review and read it or watch it you know and I think I'd be good for be good for everybody I know I'd liked it it was aight i agree totally now we just need to do we have another guy did josh uh vergara that was on last week he couldn't 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giveaways here also our one-year anniversary's coming up soon this is episode 47 so here in a couple weeks we'll be hitting week 52 one-year anniversary and I think we're gonna have a big giveaway for you stay tuned have a good night migos