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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ this is episode 52 and I'm dare across one Scott Anderson I'm Dan Charleston I'm Johnathan Franklin and we are joined by android authority guest this week Christopher whoop AKA wookie and nate swanner nate Chris rookie thanks for coming guys thank you for having me so very much episode 52 as you know there's 52 weeks in a year so you do the math you add some stuff together you come up with one year so we have been around now for a year I I can't believe it um we started out a year ago talking about Mobile World Congress Mobile World Congress is a foot again and we're not gonna really talk about a whole bunch of Mobile World Congress stuff this week the next week we will we have some other off some awesome stuff lined up for you this week we're going to have a giveaway we've partnered with cruzerlite to give away 10 different fifteen dollar gift cards and throughout the show we're going to plug that URL in 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Christopher walk was there he's gonna talk all about that let us know how awesome are all awesome the device is not we're going to talk about some dashclock stuff because that app is hot i love that act and then dan is going to do with dan does best and he's going to talk about processors because dan knows about processors he's a retired colonel developer all right so Scott let's get started let's talk about some Chromebook pixel stuff alright so Chromebook pixel on and kind of the next generation of Chrome OS and new hardware announced today the Wi-Fi only version is 1200 ninety nine dollars and the one with LTE for Verizon Wireless is fourteen hundred forty nine dollars so ain't no cheap Fang that you know and that's different from most Chromebooks are a thousand dollars cheaper yeah it is such a huge jump that uh kind of took people by surprise I didn't know that they were gonna go this high I don't think any of you did either I mean I thought they were going to continue and just kind of increase the hardware but huge jump uh but we'll get on to why it costs that much and I can get you some bank to the bunk let's backtrack a little bit and talk about the initial rumors if you remember android authority covered the rumor a few weeks back whenever a video showed up on youtube and then was mysteriously taken down while we we and a bunch of other people stole it before was uh you know what nothing disappears on the internet right so so we were able to capture it before it was taken down and then we had some things posted on google+ saying hey sorry we were hacked by a company nobody really ever heard of and then we had a Vincent coke I believe his name is uh come out of the woodwork saying hey my company slinky got me was hacked we are working on this video and everybody says no this is real know that I'm sorry no this isn't real there's a lot of people looking at saying you know what if you look at the company look at the guy you look at their profile that this company didn't do this this thing's fake that the product isn't real and many major tech blogs the debunked it and then many major tech blogs such as ourselves we backed and we said yeah it's real and he and here's the fact who started going over factor of fact and then lo and behold today we find out it's real and our own nate swanner he actually interviewed the the guy that's kind of infamous for leaking the Chromebook pixel before and after it was officially announced Nate you want to talk about that for a given to the specs here in doing you know in doing research for our initial stories I reached out to him I didn't get an answer we ran a story which was just kind of a is it real is he real what's going on this guy's really there's not a lot of information about him especially for a guy who's you know supposed to be an ex-googler and all that kind of stuff there was just no information readily available about him so I wrote the story he reached out afterwards we got to talking and he never really confirmed or denied it that that was the Chromebook pixel that that was the actual product that he you know physical product he had seen so he never he was really evasive still and then today happen and he kind of he then he wrote me on google talk with a kind of haha told you so so so we got to talking a little bit he's in japan now he wasn't china trying to solve his hacker issue he you know just kind of want to touch base and say hi and i told you so and he kind of hinted it some you some a few more surprises for i/o we talked about that because obviously if the Chromebook sound now it may not be at i/o like we thought it would so he hinted at a few more surprises um again there's not a lot of information but he was right about the pixels so it's kind of hard to doubt him yeah yeah I'm curious to find out maybe in the next coming weeks you know what what other hints he's given us you know yeah me too oh hopefully I'll get more I definitely will keep us posted on that neat so Scott let's talk about some specs why is this thing cost 1400 bucks ah 12.8 5-inch screen it's a 400 nits display also the brightness is good it has a resolution of 2005a 2560 x 1700 239 ppi it has Gorilla Glass multi-touch screen 32 or 64 gigabyte storage back leg so let's hold on saying let's let's talk about that screen you know there's besides windows 8 tablets can you name another tablet that has a touchscreen on it that's popular or that is produced by a company that everybody is going to know by name no there-there's nothing major out there that there are tablets do exist touch screens with windows 8 but community ops yeah what did I say tablets you have a laptop on your tablets that are popular the people yea i meant I meant laptops yeah so there's nothing besides you know the new ones are coming out windows 8 that like a name off all those popular co exactly they're not popular um and this thing has an amazing screen I mean it's it's the highest resolution screen to date on any notebook computer that that's huge its bits or tablet or tablet I think and the back on that back I couldn't have screen career oh it's a three by two aspect ratio you know Google said you know that I know we kind of looked at uh aspect ratios of tablets and the movie industry really pushed to said tablets again the movie industry really pushed you know notebook computers into being sixteen by nine or 16 x 10 because that's what movies are but does it need to be widescreen like that and google says no apparently so we have a three by two aspect ratio retina I hate saying right but let's say awesome display if you buy two awesome display tablet or damn it every time i say tablet somebody needs to someone needs to craig no dare cross mean good oh no not in on it goes away so elbow more hardware so eight HD webcam you were you were getting ready I think uh yeah also a backlit chrome keyboard all of that ishy webcam is the 720p it has two USB 2.0 ports which I don't know why it doesn't have a three it says yeah exactly so something that costs thirteen or fourteen hundred dollars it doesn't have USB 3 that's weird I'm sorry that West that's we want USB 3 point what's that Dan just chrome OS support USB 3 point up the fact that I'm guessing that's the Hangout could be until Chrome OS needs to support it if that is that it's based on basically a hybrid of ubuntu in a couple other distros it should support it technically say well i wouldn't either way it doesn't support it and that's kind of interesting but it also has a mini displayport two and one card reader supporting SD and MMC and it has an intel i5 processor dual core 1.8 your hurts now this that's interested jump from what we've had in the past so such as we learn such as this samsung phone book yeah so people are gonna like this will be a whole new experience for a Chromebook because if the validating day with the speed because mine you know I you know it's cheap and I just use it for you know just random browsing and checking stuff but this has a lot more juice which will be interesting to see and figure out people's reactions to that as an intel HD graphics card 4000 series and has four gigabytes of ddr3 RAM a lot of RAM which is which is more than other Chromebooks have no W not Iran that the other Chromebooks have well you know chrome the browser in general is a ram hog as we know yeah um and then it has a five hour battery which that's short you know that's not that bad considering look look at the display and the Samsung arm a 16 hour battery I believe yeah you look at the Ace or it's actually two and a half or three on your person a lot of pixels you talk about a core i5 versus sentry nose and yeah yeah that's up look at hp's laptop that just came out the HP Chromebook it only has two and a half hour battery it has a intel celeron four hours on those a man they'll even have anywhere near that that kind of display on their battery though I think that battery life is actually good for that device oh I agree i disagree but looking at what you're paying well is twenty-five percent brighter than any other high-end model 400 nits it's a measuring of brightness and 3 by 2 aspect ratio and here's the kicker yet one terabyte of google drive storage for three years now take the price of the coral book let's say thirteen hundred dollars google drive storage if you wanted to get right now you didn't want to buy a chrome OS on notebook or whatever it costs fifty dollars a month and it would cost you eighteen hundred dollars over that three years you mean google drive if you right now to drive yeah just right now wanted to purchase google drive space it's 50 bucks a month and over the course of three years that's eighteen hundred dollar so if you need a terabyte of google drive space by a chromebook pixel and save five hundred dollars that right there makes it worth buying I mean I wanted to balk at the price and we'll get to that in a second but if i needed a terabyte of cloud storage to store all my movies are all or something whatever whatever i want to store I mean a terabyte of space is going to cost you over three years eighteen hundred bucks I don't five hundred dollars if I bought a Chromebook pixel yep now I I think you're looking at those more personal use I don't think it it's going to be a whole bunch personal using Google's targeting businesses and stuff but we'll get to that yeah so what you guys think those bex do they live up to the price and is the kind of the carrot on top the one terabyte for three years worth it oh I'll go first then we'll go down the line here i guess and give our first initial thoughts on this so when I saw the initial Chromebook pixel video I thought wow this thing is awesome that if this is true it's going to you know all the pixels all that is the the power the display that this thing is going to be more expensive than a regular Chromebook I thought to myself you know the nexus 10 you know at 350 400 doll or tablet has a lot of pixels more than any other tablet let's just double the price of that for a little bit more bang for your buck a little bit more juice and that's that's probable it'll cost that's what I was thinking so I was thinking you know 700 bucks 800 bucks I wasn't thinking a thousand let alone 1300 and that just I'm not buying one because of that because I can't afford to spend 1,300 bucks I don't need a Chromebook I have one i have a samsung arm for it to be an impulse buy arranged to me we'd have to cut that in half so people that are looking for new laptops maybe uh impulse buying I don't think so unless you're somebody is in this hangout already bought one um that's just my thought now in terms of hardware that's awesome uh I mean it has a powerful processor to me this is competing against the macbook pro that's similarly priced and similarly expect um but a macbook pro that has the same hardware similar hardware can do a lot more than a Chromebook and maybe I'm missing the concept of a Chromebook raw but initially i thought that chrome books were cool because they were going to be cheap and they're they're going to be able to you know get make computing easy and simple for the masses because everybody can get a cheap computer and get stuff so everybody can get stuff done in a really badass way now but it just it's not cheap like previous Chromebooks and it it's hard for me to fathom right now because the previous Chromebooks have been so cheap so I I don't know what to think about it I I'm curious we'll talk about a little bit later what is down the road for the next Chromebook so dan what are your thoughts on the on the pixel one before that is one of the person again Andrew darling says that it will take all three years to upload stuff to that and are you running like a 28.8 k modem what are you doing it's not going to you know it's not a yeah I mean I have a pretty fast internet here through comcast I can net now comcast does limit me at 250 gig a month so take me four months to upload but hey after four months I go I'm good and I'll not've and you gotta download it again every time you want to use it though yeah you know but once y'all um I'm not gonna stream it all over I'm not gonna stream turn 50 gig a month that's a lot you're still not limited on verizon to see how they like oh yeah well yeah well yeah what if you were what if you're using verizon yeah yeah you transferred via USB from your computer to your own and then you upload it from your phone before the show we're getting off track here but I'm gonna continue there or not dan said he was just gonna drive down to Kansas City find a Wi-Fi hotspot you know it's a google fiber and just upload everything right there you know spread on Google's back on me fast as crap how we're gonna be limited by they have 15 that's unpossible upload all right so anyway so what do you think about the pixel man yeah I have to agree with you about the price being a little shockingly high mean the specs are decent but not quite that good if it had a gigabytes of RAM and I seven maybe thirteen hundred dollars but I could get a laptop with an i7 processor and a gigabyte RAM for half the price so I just I don't see it as being something that I would buy foot I'll to think that a big part of that is that I just don't see Chrome OS is being mature enough to justify that but again I think that's kind of the right I'm sorry Dan that was routed me to laugh while you're talking but Chris Rizzo that's watching this show right now he named you already he decided to to make that into a meme as I was jokingly saying so uh if you're watching the show and you to bed over the Google+ comments and look at the original post and you'll see Chris Rizzo's mean he made that made me laugh that's that's good Thank You Fred yeah all right so said John what do you think about the pixel price was given that they've really pushed OEMs you know with everything else i honestly think if they had put it in the eight to nine hundred dollar price range i think that was achievable yeah um the one i think the one thing is really lacking with a lot of windows laptop still has end up getting better since the Ultrabook push but there's really not really well built and really well done all the way through laptop you know existing for windows you know most of them are still 1366 x 768 crap resolution and keyboards or you know decent but not great the track pads are kind of crappy too there's a market for a really well-built computer you know I look at am a macbook pro and I hate mac OS x with a passion i could never use mecos i heard word software keep me away from it but i like the way that their laptops are built can you know what you do that you have something there John because I know a lot of people that that buy a macbook pro just because the hardware is awesome and then they put boot camp on it and run windows or they or just well you know boot camp in a bunt too or just blow away and do straight about you know thus this the first thing that came to mind when I saw this was that the specs are you know did reasonably fast it would be a pretty good device to dual boot with ubuntu on actually it would make a pretty decent little thing to boot into linux whenever you would need to and i'm not associated maybe for the time being until Chrome OS gets stronger that Google should make an easier way to do that too if they're going to get into the high-end you know because if i pay over a thousand dollars for a computer I expect that computer to be able to do all of my computing needs not just not just a supplementary device to something where I'd still have to have a desktop on occasion to do someone so so here so here think about this let's say Google wants you to keep this device for three years because they're giving you a terabyte of storage for three years so think of where I know you're not supposed to buy something in hopes that it gets more awesome but think of what's gonna happen over the next couple years you know it's really good and then hardware three year old hardware is not ancient like it used to be either you know I mean you have a five year old computer now it's still usable all right so wookie moving on here what do you think about the pic so what are your initial thoughts I'm basically an echo what John said I mean I think it's a cool piece of hardware I don't know I haven't really used chrome OS so I don't know about that but the hardware itself is cool but at the same time I'm using a laptop with better specs right now and the only thing it doesn't have is an SSD and an aluminum body but it's got more RAM it's got higher processing power and that cost me about 600 bucks so that looking at a pure SPECT wise I mean it's a really cool I mean don't get me wrong I've been drooling over it all day and I really like that light bar it's it it's just cool but I'm not gonna buy one I'm gonna wait and see what happens down the road that's that's long good so moving on to the man that actually bought one already Nate obviously you love it you bought it uh yeah I started sweating as soon as I saw the thing the difference is i live in chrome I do ninety-nine percent of what I do in chrome so that works for me I am in the model for a premium laptop because i'm tired of as John said really poorly built windows 8 laptops and I also really hate windows 8 and like John I can't touch mac stuff I can't touch their software I just can't stand it like you said about buying every three years I think that's what they're going out with the storage they keep you tied into that storage and you're going to buy a device every three years to keep that storage happening so that's where I'm at and that's why I bought one good good and last but not least mr. Anderson Oh to this yeah heart was great um I don't think they're gonna sell a whole bunch but this is the progression of chrome and they might just be kind of overshooting as opposed to just incrementally incrementally upgrading and then they'll find like a middle and so so what where does this leave the previous rumors of you know we talked about a possible Tegra 4 Chromebook so you know there's some hints at some Tegra 4 testing being done there was to talk of a new puppy device because the Chromebook pixel is most likely the the link device that we've heard about so what's puppy is is there still puppy you know uh what does that mean well this is a big dog then yeah there's going to be a puppy down the road yeah I mean there's there's been a sort of two different code names circulating link and puppy and so the link had been rumored to have a 4-megapixel touchscreen display in an ivory bridge processor which obviously the pixel has so pretty obvious that that's the link and then there's this other puppy device is the board name that as references to Tegra 4 code so apparently there's another Chromebook device floating out there potentially with a Tegra 4 processor so I definitely see you know if they're going to come up with a high quality device a very high price like this coming out with another high quality arm-based devices love I spoint Allah Windows RT vs surface pro maybe we'll see it announced at i/o maybe that's when the Tegra 4 Chromebook the puppy will come out and maybe that'll be that'll be my my seven eight hundred dollar high-end you know girl book that I wanted with a with this awesome display I can see but she's not coming out an eye out just I know the Tegra 4 is probably ready but I could see that as a good consolation kind of a medium ground yeah okay so let's let's move on but you know I hate pushing news back from beginning of the week and you know since this is a weekly show not just a daily recap but today was a big day so so let's talk about ubuntu touch um yeah so let's talk about the HTC one oh that's mean that's okay so if you haven't tried a bun to touch yet it's cool but think of it as what happens in the Android world when a new device a new android rom gets ported to a new device the very first day that it boots up you know in for a couple weeks sometimes half the hardware doesn't work it's slow but it's an alpha it's the first build you know it's like oh we have Wi-Fi working but you can't see the camera yet or we don't have Wi-Fi but we have audio or you know it and and that's really what this is this is your alpha Bill of an Android ROM that somebody just got cm working on it unofficially or something like that that that's really what this is because it's slow it stutters on the nexus 7 there's no audio there's no camera I put it on today at lunchtime thinking that this was going to be so awesome and I'm I was very very excited and then that excitement turned to frustration after I couldn't connect to my office's enterprise Wi-Fi because I found out enterprise Wi-Fi was not supported so I played with it as you know doing nothing opened up the camera oh wait camera doesn't work on the Nexus 7 so I came home hooked up to my personal Wi-Fi here at my house and I played around from the apps which are just you know web apps which is fine um but like i said it's it's a preview developer build it's exactly what it is it's nothing more it's not for a consumer it's for somebody to develop one or it's for the Susie asst to install it look at it and then say okay cool all right I'll check back in another month I'll check back when you know preview release two is out or the first big but you know bug fixes out so if you're looking to install it and you haven't yet there's two methods to do so the official method from the bunch of com wiki you need to have in a bun to flavored OS like mint or a bun to and you need to run some confirm inul commands and basically it's leaving Windows users you know the mass people that have have computers did unable to install from a computer and that's what that's fine you actually don't need a computer I didn't install it over a computer I didn't use the official method i downloaded the zip files which will post those in a link here in a little bit um and i downloaded the zip files and actually made a tutorial today so if you saw my post on Google+ you know what I'm talking about you download your board file for your your specific device your specific Nexus device which is the GSM galaxy nexus and nexus 7 Nexus 10 on the nexus 4 you download that specific board device then you down our board zip file and then you download the actual you know ROM which is a like a 500 Meg's if file and you flash both of those in torpor clockworkmod and you boot up and there you go it actually it doesn't touch your SD card so if you had an android on there which smells doing android we're gonna do something crazy like this you can restore your nandroid and be good to go or you know flash your factory images and keep your SD card intact and we don't flash the the user data so there's a lot of things you can do to test it out in I like the method that were used to you know we're used to downloading and flashing you know a couple zip files so I I did that and it was really easy but did you like your debit cash before you flash that might've been one you have problems swipe it twice get a wipe it twice yeah and I actually wipe battery stats cuz I heard you supposed to do that did you why sure your wire get the rotation stats yeah right you know will actually you know what maybe that's why rotation didn't work on the Nexus a but no we're actually joking you don't need to that um one quick thing about I I like the the multitasking features there's an app called glove box go pick it up if you want to kind of test out their type of multitasking it's pretty cool so if you try to bunt to on the Nexus device let us know in the comments what you thought about it your initial impressions on what you would like to see come to Android from that what you would like to see improved upon and now I mean it's a developer builder chances are they're going to still add some things all I can say is a lot of the features they showed and hyped up on those uh those videos yeah you can't do a lot of that yet you can do some of it don't get me wrong you can do some but it's it doesn't in their mind it doesn't function the same way so I did any of you guys here dude test it out at all yet I don't have anything plaster what about your next I guess I could try it on my note alright so this week something big that happened it didn't happen today we're going to talk about the HTC One and android authority was there at the event uh my boy wookie he was there he covered the event for us um and he got to plug the device do some comparisons some verses and so what you want you to tell us you know how awesome is the device tell us about sense tell us about these new features the hardware how's it feel is it is this a device that we want you know have at it well the thing is um and natan Derek you you would know this from a private kind of conversation that happened between android authority people that are so there was a conversation about how specs are starting to become a little bit more irrelevant now that things are getting to a point where stuff just works and in that respect I think the one could do well because it basically in a lot of ways it's it's kind of a DNA with an aluminum body and a whole lot more features the specs are bumped up a little bit but not all that much but I've got to say I would if it was on verizon and I could go back in time and have a one instead of a DNA I would have a lot it's pretty cool um since five well you know what the heck it's hard to it's different things that I like like I like the fact that it's a bit more minimalist in its display but blinkfeed not a fan you mean we mean windows tiles you mean windows a success no no no you mean Flipboard you I yeah yeah exactly ah oui Ahmed's little so so what do they do they form partnerships with ESPN MTV associated press two to bring news feeds right to this tap this widget or something called blinkfeed and isn't since five really like it sends centered all-round blinkfeed for your Emmy for social as well like everything just comes in there like it really reminds me of windows tiles in or Flipboard um keep in mind that I was actually before I say this I'm actually kind of a fan of what I've seen of the HTC One so far but blinkfeed seems like they tried to find the most efficient way to pull things I really don't care about into one spot that's a pretty good description but you are a fan of sense though so it's coming from somebody that likes sense yes the one guy who actually likes attitude but we're in the same now it does have a 1080p screen 468 PPI which is higher than 4.7 inches it's one of the smaller of these big yeah exactly that's actually higher than the DNA because it's it's three tenths vintage smaller so and now the nice thing about this is we're going to talk about processors a little bit with Dan but it has one of those brand spanking new Snapdragon the 600 processor so it's smoking fast it looked really fast from the videos look what the software was a lot lighter or two so that seemed lighter faster so yeah when you're doing Flipboard and just sometimes if for the Flipboard image loading the hit looks a little bit more lightweight than cell wiki did you get to play around with the sound at all like boom sound is the new buzzword you know HTC said they were going to wow us with audio which and my best understanding is boom sound as Beats Audio plus front speakers yes it's exactly that so not all that much to be excited about I mean like really if you're an audiophile Beats Audio is I mean yeah beats is probably gonna piss you off a little bit because of the bows with your sound and front speakers there that's cool but I mean the guy from HTC I can't remember which one it was I'm sorry for dropping the ball on that but was even he opened his talk at the event talking about how sound on phones is generally bad and that's really true putting the speakers in the front doesn't do a whole lot to help that no it just makes him sound louder and dad yes it's more allowed bad and with election on command it means more low rhythmic low mid range bad instead of high mid range back so let's talk about Zoe and you know in not some like hot chick or anything like HTC's new new new software for video and in picture and all sorts of stuff that this is their new revolutionary thing that they are going to impress us with with the camera HTC Zoe orzo yeah Zoe I would say is probably the killer app of the one actually getting to see that in in action there are some very cool things about it the first and most important thing I think is actually the fact that once you open up the camera it starts running a kind of constant buffer so that when you hit the shutter button it captures four seconds and front of video in addition to a picture but also a second before you hit that shutter and to make sure that if you hit it a little bit to wait you might catch something you would have missed otherwise not as that I think is very cool that's something i think uh everybody should start ripping off immediately no i don't like my battery draining um I'm I got pretty quick reflexes when something happens so I don't know if I need it I mean it only happens as far as I know when the camera app is actually open and working but yeah I mean that can definitely be a battery drain but at the same time if you're me uh I always capture pictures a second to wait so me too I think that's very very cool plus they're also packing only a 4 megapixel camera sensor I mean it's their fault ultrapixel record like apparently 4 megapixels that's a lot less data to process yeah the act of taking a picture will not consume as much battery is taking an 8 or 13 megapixel picture just because there's literally millions fewer pixels to process so they shit in in you know technically speaking it should take a better picture because they're processing a lot less and a lot less time frame a lot less dated a lot less time frame well the processing speed isn't really going to affect the quality of the image with supposed to affect the quality of the image here is the way they're sort of setting up the camera sensor by having a few errs who little pixels they're able to mega pixels in the camera they're able to spread them out more so theoretically each one's going to capture more light and therefore more information even though it's less overall number of pictures pixels the quality should be a lot better and so they're able to get a lot better low-light and sort of natural light conditions pictures whereas you know lots of cameras do great and bright light settings but most of life is not in bright light settings no really pixels didn't somebody from nokia have to say something about these ultrapixels yeah one of the PureView developers apparently trashed it basically said no that's all a lot of crap in the beamer if you remember PureView is probably one of the top mobile cameras yeah it's amazing it's actually the one thing that Windows Phone can do yeah no no no you're pretty much on running Sembia oh well it's like the forty five megapixel camera again I was running some now mr. if now they just take the camera and put the hardware on Android and they actually have a phone that sells yeah so uh Wookiee anything else about the one that jumped out at you is hardware software was well um yeah I mean it's just um it's an easy thing to understate but really it just felt nice um something about that being a third of an inch smaller you know screen wise than the droid DNA it felt a lot easier to use one handed I really like the aluminum body I mean it's it makes it a little bit heavier but it's just a nice solid feel it does make nice devices they do generally feel solid compared to that I name it compared to the DNA is it a fingerprint magnet no I mean the DNA is a massive fingerprint magnet okay though the the HTC the one I keep I feel I have to say HTC before one because it just feels some so we are calling something wrong but anyway I didn't notice that I mean the screen obviously but any spleen is going to be a fingerprint moment like crazy it wasn't that finger printed up at all you were you were at CES for never passing around the Xperia Z so you've seen Sony's flagship for the first year in HTC's which one you think is the front-runner right now uh busy that's just I think well I mean personally I like the one better but if you're asking which i think is going to do better i think the observer the Xperia Z has a lot more hype behind it and for good reason I mean it's it's a great device there's one more thing I want to say before we get done with this segment and this actually nothing to do with the one but I did get to talk to somebody about whether they were thinking about porting sends five to existing devices and apparently HTC is investigating let's go for looking at bringing it back to two devices like say for example the the one x+ or the DNA they just want to make sure that it will work well so it's something they're looking into they're not making any promises that it's going to happen but it's nice to know there at least thinking about and you know what thank God for talented Android developers that will do it before they officially do anyways yeah captain you got to let me cuz I'm sorry it's called that's that's like the DNA's crap hardware or something you write a piece of software and it can't run on the phone that's six months old I mean mr. get the newest just whether they had much of a lazy ass that you don't want to support it in that all right so let's let's get to the fun part of the show that 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haven't tried it yet you should try it if you have android 4.2 which basically is a custom rom or a Nexus device at this point not on verizon custom rom it so there's a battery extension as it is Facebook klum which is Twitter's Falcon pro which does twitter with the i actually don't use twitter but from what I've seen in friends that are using it they love it I don't use whatsapp either but a lot of people do whatsapp has an extension for it any do a lot of people that actually just came out the other day a lot of people are using any do and annie's extension is a contact dialer so you can put like the you're your significant other parents or somebody you call your buddy you know and somebody call the time and you tap the button you can call them right from the lock screen I don't know if you want to do that all the time you know because it's kind of like less secure but no well yeah you wanna do it you can do it um I'm impress the news reader is is there and there's also an app launcher so let's say you want to you want to put an app to launch Chrome or to launch voicemail you know right on the right from the home screen now right from the lock screen you can do that as well as create your own that there's there's an app called the custom xterra what's called the desk lock custom extension so you can go in there and create pretty much anything you want to sign any action to it so this will just basically just search the Google Play Store or if you have the latest version of dashclock you can actually click the the about a med drop down menu and it'll take you to the searching the play store for more extensions and the more extension you have the better it gets I still talking about apps Chrome Beta got updated today it's a little bit faster not it is heading in the right direction also YouTube during the show did get updated as well you can control the you're pairing of the TV from the notification bar kind of cool stuff after me so Dan I heard some new processors yeah and there's been a lot of processor and and radio news for bass bad news this week actually Qualcomm it previously announced the Snapdragon two and four hundred they actually detailed them this week and I've also brought together the details of the six and eight hundred as well as their newly announced RF 360 the one radio to move them all really and we're gonna look at these and then compare them with some of the new announcements from Nvidia with their Tegra 4 that's obviously already been announced and then the new Tegra 4i the lower power hopefully less expensive version that they have an integrated radio with so getting started with Qualcomm we've got the two and four hundred which are their low end entries the 200 is actually not even a Qualcomm designed chip it's a arm cortex a5 quad-core CPU at one point for gear hurts with an entry no 203 GPU so that's an old GPU and a low-power not very strong processor so that's definitely low-end but it is on 20 again our 28 animators and it does support 1080p playback so it's for low-end devices but it's still able to deliver decent amount of performance when stepping up to the next level got the 400 which comes in two configurations either a dual core Krait presumably version 200 which is the same things in the s4 and for pro but that's not really certain dual core Krait at 1.7 gigahertz or quad core a seven at one point 4 gigahertz so the a7 is for example what's the little in the big little octa-core configuration okay though it's less powerful than a 9 but not a lot and with four of them that can be deliver a decent amount of power um that's paired with the audrina 305 which again is in the s4 yeah not the probe the s4 again 1080 playback 13 plus megapixel camera support both of these are expected to be released this year according to Qualcomm probably in q4 so pretty late this year stepping that off the 600 is actually the chip that's in the HTC One and the optimus g pro that's a 1.7 or 1.9 nigga hurts quad-core krait 300 processor with an Adreno 320 GPU basically it's an s4 pro with some extra bonuses added in it is faster it's about forty percent pastor than the non-pro s4 the dual core one and then the 800 with that one's supposed to be at least according to Qualcomm in q2 of this device obviously it's already announced in a couple of devices that are supposed to hit on those timetables and then the 800 is coming in q3 again that'll be in devices in q3 that'll be a quad-core krait 400 at 2.3 gigahertz with the next generation Adreno 330 GPU which is supposed to be two times faster than the 320 that will support 4k displays that's 4096 x 2304 pixels or what they're now calling Ultra HD as well as fifty five megapixel camera support and quick charge 2.0 which is supposed to be 75 percent faster than normal charging snapdragons voice activation which is basically I'm always listening to you whisper level like voice commands for your phone all told seventy-five percent faster than the current s4 pro that's the nexus for the DNA that's coming out in just a few months I'm excited for the quick charge to point out and also the was it the voice activation if they can do it without the battery loss I think they'd be kind of cool if you could use a duel now from a table that game awesome yeah I mean that's really the point of it is that it's supposed to be super low power always listening so yeah I mean that that ship just looks incredible so what's this uh diamond in the rough ah chip yeah so this RF 360 is a new fully integrated sort of shell for the rest of the baseband so really the baseband is broken up into a lot of little pieces and all come together and this is a package of a bunch of those pieces so it's going to support 40 different cellular bands across the world Qualcomm's announced up with some but ambiguous as to whether or not it met 40 total or just 40 LTE bands but regardless it will support every single network that is currently in use on a planet and every single network that is currently planned to be in use on the planet um one chip supports all of the world's first modem insisted antenna which will dynamically in tune the antenna based on things like how are you holding the phone we're going to optimize the tuning of the antenna to avoid your hand based on things like what frequencies are you trying to connect to we're going to tune to the best frequency in this spectrum and to get the best possible connection um the world's first modem assisted power tracking which basically is a way that it's going to track power across all of these various elements and you know use all of that tracking to cut down on power consumption affecting at thirty percent lower power consumption compared to the current already industry-leading power low consuming radios from Qualcomm it's also the world's first multiband integrated power amplifier and antenna switch so it's built in the amplifiers for the antennas and the switches to jump from 2g to 3G to 4G all built in on the same piece of hardware um it's also the world's first 3d RF package chip so it's not just a wafer you know that takes up square footage of your device it's a flan cube and it's probably got cubic a bit its stacking it so it's layering the individual pieces on top of each other to conserve more space um and this is paired with a next generation transceiver that's also supposed to reduce power consumption by another twenty percent supporting all the regular suspects GPS Colossus video which I don't really know it is plus a Wi-Fi 802 11 or 80 to point 11ac that's the one gigabit Wi-Fi standard plus you know the usual bluetooth etc that's supposed to get released also in q3 suspiciously similar to the release time table for the 800 my guess is it will be integrated into the 800 um so the license would come with this the 800 and this new LTE radio yeah are gonna be like the god chip I mean 2013 is going to be a great year for mo technology so so so day and i have a question uses we're on that subject 2013 is supposed to be the year that Verizon completes their LTE network they're suppose to do that actually sometime this summer and then 2014 begin rolling out besides just field trials of voice over LTE yep what what will this process or do for that well all of this I didn't mention it but this also has full support for LTE voice over LTE it also has support for LTE Advanced and carrier aggregation so what that allows carriers to do with LTE advanced to sort of share pieces of spectrum so if you have 10 mega 10 megahertz block out of the AWS spectrum and I have the next 10 megahertz and then you have the next time after that you can stack them together to sort of create a better connection out of it so this has full support for all of that unfortunately only two networks that I know that you use that right now or one that was set up for testing in Moscow and one that t-mobile USA is not yet turned on but the stacking that basically make a bigger pipe so you can look okay yeah it gives you a wider channels through which you can run all the connections obviously that means you can run higher speeds more people or bad people going through you're going to get more information and get what they want quicker okay just like more lanes on highway it's basically spillover for when you run out of exactly exactly in one of the problems the carriers face drive-ins buying it up either by an AWS spectrum yep yeah i mean verizon AT&T mobile all have plans to or already have LTE on AWS who's know and most the hell te canadian networks are on AWS as well i think if is really going to interoperate interoperability kind of irrelevant says there's no excuse not to be able to have a complete global launch on a device on every device river yes know when everything so whenever the galaxy cs4 comes out which is rumored to be on a Qualcomm processor that if let's say that rumor is true let's say it's not using the octa because that is rumored to be too hot yep they won't have this belt it won't have this radio okay yeah there's the moment your yeah it's gonna come out in q3 I'm assuming the risk X is gonna put out the s4 in pieces so the the note 3 yeah maybe yeah any device that any company I've ever releases after q3 of 2013 if it doesn't work in the next Nexus it's their own and all that good stuff yeah i mean that's that's huge supporting every network on the planet at the same time it's just ridiculous other processor news though nvidia has been talking up their own radio technology lately obviously they had announced the Tegra 4 processor which we know is a four plus one with a cortex a15 cores running at what to I think it's one point nine yards so I'm going to check me on that one with a 72 core GPU um all on 28 nanometers sporting displays up to 3,200 by 2000 really it's their top end processor obviously they just recently announced though their project gray which is another Tegra 4i which really is somewhat misleading because it's more or less a shrunken and overclocked Tegra 3 processor with a built-in radio it's the same for +1 rangement that we're familiar with which is kind of annoying because really in invidious case it's one plus two plus two where you have your one companion core that runs everything and then two colors that will come online and then when you need more than that another two cores that will come online you can't just get one of those at a time it's two and two or four but not one at a time um this one's down to only a 60 core GPU same 28 nanometer process really the thing that take that n videos with us is that it's only 60 millimeter square it's very tiny chip they were bragging about it being substantially smaller than similar offerings from Qualcomm um granted they said that before Qualcomm made their 200 and 400 Snapdragon announcements just recently so I don't really know what comparable chip they were talking about because nothing else is comparable in terms of performance for what they're putting on with this um the the real news there is the I Sarah I 500 baseband and it's going to support LTE 'the cat 3 and cat for with carrier aggregation on TDD and FTD standards there's big huge caveat to that though the LTE advanced support that's the camp for with carrier aggregation is going to come with a later software update not actually ready yet in Nvidia's defense though there's only two networks on the planet that use that and neither of them Republic so not really a big deal at the moment um it'll also support gsm an edge hspa+ 42 td-scdma which is the networking technology these most China but not cdma so no verizon a no sprint for the Tegra 4i um it is also a software programmable modem so you can actually similar to Qualcomm sort of universal radio that they just announced you can bring differently two antennas to it and then just reprogram the modem so it's less hardware the people have that om sep to buy but it's still not one universal solution what Qualcomm suffering um the big disappointing news out of this though is the expected release date and video expects to release it to OEM sampling it by the end of 2013 that means it's lonely in any devices until q1 2014 that's alright that's a that's a year from now yeah yes that is literally a year from now where is not even six months from now Qualcomm is going to have a radio that does everything paired with you know this ridiculously power processor and in videos can be putting out a cortex a9 clone whistling behind in specs now yeah this thing is I don't know that it's amazing but it is pretty decent now by them yes it's mediocre right now a year from now mm thanks Camille and also the job like this this chip was more or less promised as mid year 2012 all right so Dan I think I understand which one you're going to choose just in case I've had a brain malfunction between the new taggers and the new snapdragons your money goes to Qualcomm definitely Qualcomm I mean looking at the stuff that Nvidia is announcing especially with it being so obviously side by side when it was like two days later the Qualcomm came back with the Snapdragon two and four hundred announcement and then this RF 360 it just makes any laughably far behind okay all right well before we wrap up here those of you that missed the segment earlier or they're just watching random parts of the show or listening to random parts of the show shame on you oh you should be listening to whole show you guys so give away cruzerlite thank you very much cruzerlite we're giving away 10 different fifteen dollar gift cards which you can use to buy various cruzerlite cases and other goodies I personally just go to three crucial egg cases the URL to enter the contest the rafflecopter where you circle plus things you follow things you like things the standard rafflecopter stuff you go to be IT period ly /a a 0 n a ir cont EST that is bit ly /a a on-air contest do all the things and you get a few entries and we'll let you know sunday night at 8pm after the drawing once again this is our one year show so we've been doing is for a long time we've had a lot of guests on the show we started out a year ago as I said reviewing Mobile World Congress when hangouts on air were in beta nobody was actually doing on on air shows about android on google+ it's not are actually the first people to if we could say pioneer that because nobody else was doing it yet on google+ should say that we pioneered it we were the first people to do it and we loved it it was a hell of a lot of fun obviously we've been doing it for a year now um in that year we've had a lot of cool stuff on the show we've had a lot of developers we've had Francisco Franco from franco.kernel on the show we've had the whole entire miui me you I didn't US team on the show various times of various developers from that team a couple of different times on here talking about different projects are working on in the rom itself for developing we've had Dan on the show actually talked about team at Colonel year ago when he was a you know when he was a colonel def what's that more actively developing anybody was more actively developing I pick on Dan all time he's a hell of a kernel developer he knows his stuff if he wasn't a good friend I wouldn't pick on him as much so he knows I'm just joking busy clear i'm running a custom-built kernel that I built myself on my Nexus 4 just so we had been come on and talk all about that we actually had the guy that's behind Apple ever got me come on the show and talk about his ventures we had Russell Holly on the show a couple times talking about various Android awesomeness we had Aaron from the big Android BBQ talking about you know what it means to put together the big Android BBQ he was there given us everything all the back information it you know of how it started and where they're at and how they got there we had the guys behind Goethe I am formally known as goo inside me there an Android file host they came on the show and told us everything about Android file hosting professional we've had paranoid android on the show um else we had I missing somebody I know after you missing somebody all right so I try me they saw us for chameleon launcher yeah yeah yeah oh my mom like yeah yeah we had the funds we had Philip on the show from technician the company behind chameleon we actually had them on the show is an exclusive uh talking about the new launch we he be in Phillips been on the show a couple times we're gonna actually have to have him on the show again to talk about the new phone launcher yeah yeah we talked with him about that a lot back at ya and so we've had we've had a lot of people from the android community on the show over the past year the past so many months not so many new guests we've been focusing on having a larger group of people here so we could talk about more topics but we'd like to get back into having more people from the community more people coming and talking about their raw mother colonel are there a poor their new awesome idea you know the something they do android related that they want to come and yak about 4 15 minutes or so so if that sounds like you uh drop us a line contact me on google+ contact scott let us know and we will try to get you on the show Francisco Franco's gonna be coming on here and in a few weeks maybe sooner or later he said sometime soon and some other people some some big names and YouTube Android news are gonna be coming on the show so uh we'll keep you posted thanks for thanks for watching good luck on the contest sets bit ly / it AAA on-air contest and we'll let you know in a few days if if if you want you can find us on various places around the web Scott and where they as always you can watch us on youtube you can listen to us after the fact on soundcloud also the Google+ page you can comment along as people have been doing tonight sure or ask some questions do whatever you want to do every once in a while we're in an IRC um gonna get better very much about it yeah what do you believe that we really need to focus on the IRC chain alright guys so Dan it's you've been here so almost the whole year I think you're like our second guess and you kind of stuck around after that so thanks for being here many times over the past year John you've been here a lot of the past six months or so we love having you on here thanks for all your opinions your comments you're very knowledgeable about the things you know wiki I love man may do nae did you know it's good to have you you're talking about things you're working on on the the android authority front Chris as well as Chris to he comments about some things he's working on and Scott I Love You Man to that one day I'll do this without you the year ago you and I look look we've done we've go to hell the following and thank you guys for watching this and and thanks for you know laughing at us when we can't tell the difference between tablets and laptops and we can't tell the difference between a backdoor a back a back door and a back order you know that is gonna haunt me this next year I mean you're again the what we're talking about if you're new watcher the show start searching for Nexus back door Scott Anderson he knows a lot about that we've come a long way and I'm excited for the year to come you know I think we're gonna get better at saying goodbye throughout the next year so we don't spend like 7-8 minutes saying goodbye we're gonna shit really get these closing arguments down to like a minute I like saying goodbye for like seven minutes it's always hard to say goodbye it is hard to say good says I take a romance novel I name maybe that's what season two is gonna be out Susan Delfino romantic budding bromance between who yes don't do it over again well everybody thank you for watching and you guys have a great night good night these guys thanks for the pastor you guys