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welcome to android authority on air that original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross and I am Scott Anderson Tom yard we're joined with the dead charlton John Franklin rookie my main man and nate swanner all from android authority guys a great to have you here we're here wait wait a little treat this week nate is actually joining us from his Chromebook pixel and I don't know if we look am it as amazing as he does but the video camera on it seems great from here I I'm definitely impressed yeah it's a nice it's a nice camera that's for sure so how do we look on that massive screen we look all pixelated and like horrible or what well you look horrible but it's not be good for the pixelation no screams absolutely gorgeous um yes I see what you did there haha particular that's catch on an ugly Joker I remember that remember i can control i can i can meet you you know all right uh I just always always listen to us on the podcast yeah all right so this week Mobile World Congress you know over in Barcelona android authority was there are Joshua Vergara and Darcy lack of a were there tearing it up we have tons of YouTube videos on our channel you should check those out if you want to see a bunch of verses as a bunch of hands on the various different devices as well as device reviews and everything on on the website our whole Mobile World Congress is a pretty in depth you and I really like that entry on the mobile world congress intro that's about it yeah it's great it's a bull it's a mobile world congress global mobile awards bull like rushing the android authority logo and it's awesome you gotta check it out alright so they real quick just for like a second Derek aren't you just a little bit jealous after CES aren't you just a little bit jealous that we're not there you know I know I'm not I had fun at CES it sounds like you know Oh Mobile World Congress had a lot more goodies I would have been nice to see some of the goodies um but you know what hey Barcelona yeah yeah that'd be kind of cool yeah all right yeah I'm trying to play it down i'm jealous don't get me wrong all right so we're gonna talk about Mobile World Congress agra obviously various phones and tablets in foam pads and the with the global mobile awards and before we get to all that let's let's talk about some hot topic this week Wow Mobile World Congress was was going on we're gonna hit on some information that came out about Google vs samsung but before we get to that um let's hit our normal app segment the beginning of the show so you may have noticed a new icon show up on your android device this week a nice little green google icon with a gear reminds me of like st. Patrick's Day anyway won't you st. Patrick's I'm coming up yeah it's the google settings app with us and this is from the new google play services three-point oh that rolled out and Google Play services three-point oh we've had it since one point out we've had it for a while it adds various API search for android and and so forth so you don't have to wait for a new version of android to roll out so you can get them so this latest one was a big update for integration for Google+ um you can now if your brand you can install apps directly from your site you have a link to sign in for Google+ the app automatically downloads installs to your device you can similar to like a facebook sign in and a Twitter sign in you can now sign in with Google+ as well and it can you know steal all your data from you know all your friends names it doesn't know your friends circles they specifically tell you that but we all know all your friends names from that circle or you can choose to not share anybody it will know 0 your friends names was very nice that the few apps i've done so i'm not giving them my friends data get down there and click only allow this you know only still take my information they'll take my friends or you can create a circle with like you know one person enter nope and share to that circle looked a bit um that's cool i like integration you know me I'm a big Google+ fan I I let other things integrate with it um well at apps so you can now sign in to let's say for example fancy is an app that allows you to sign in with twitter facebook and now you can sign in directly with your google+ credentials so it's another more secure experience the apps can be now personalized when you sign in it can say hey Derek how you doing and you know the it's nice i like it so that is different from the the web apps that let you sign in with your google account already well the google account right now will be able to look at your your contacts would be able to look at your email address and see your name and so forth but this will have access to your history your your history API and will allow apps to do things as on google+ if you share you can view directly into the app such as you know a purchase link view a product that's somebody's sharing if somebody shares maybe a game score you click on the view it takes you right to the game score something like that it it's a writable Google+ API which the regular Google account off doesn't allow writing to Google Plus and this one does so it's a writable API I guess is the long story short so I guess my real question is what's the purpose of having both I'm going to assume that eventually it would be phased out you will need both that's just me making an assumption but why would you have both there's there's no need to have both now some people I saw around the web complaining saying now they have another icon why didn't they just use the google or the Android settings where your google account is already there well that would require new new version of android and since they can't just push a new settings APK to every device since every OEM basically you know brights thorough makes their own you have so they had to do it this way then this is the whole entire reason that the services exists so they can push new features without pushing out a whole new version of Android really the people should be happy as google continues to abstract Google services in the standalone apks that are in the market delivered through the market it means you're going to get a much more consistent access layer to Google services even if you're not running the same version of Android if you're running kindle if you're running you know gingerbread or ICS or jelly bean or even iOS you're getting the same sort of access layer to the various cloud services that Google provides it's all very much it's a very modular approach and I definitely agree with that over having to roll it into operating system up yeah it's good um so I mentioned a fancy it's an app that honestly I guess has been around for a while I honestly never heard about it before never used it until I said all well I can sign in to you to this app used to just so you could sign it with you yeah but but but actually being attacked I got some good out of it um I actually spoke with their web developer actually a little back story i'll ramble for a minute and i like to ramble actually had an issue with their website and like you know me being an angry irate customer i took to twitter google+ and yelled about it and their developer actually contacted me and said so we never had anybody do what you're trying to do we fixed our bug we like android authority here's ten ten dollar coupons to give away your viewers so thank you hun yeah so you guys benefit from me finding a bug so we're not going giving away this show I'm actually gonna do an app review i've been using the app a lot just playing around with it it's going to it it is greatest fancy it's a it's a bolo so it's a hollow apps what you know you say anything else right it's cool i like it oh so yeah so pay attention the next few days manager authority i get some time to review the app i'm going to post the app review and then you'll have a chance to win ten bucks to buy something or does it do it's a social network it's kind of like pinterest meets amazon affiliate program you know that that's really the best way to put it you can pin your own called fancying them and you can use it to buy and sell things and make money with referrals which you kind of do with Amazon it I'll go you know what how about you find out what it is when i do the app review yeah why don't you just like wait like the thing that i wouldn't understand in this is that it sounds like something that dan wouldn't do the same well I mean it's also something for people that are selling things which I've seen you know anything about selling things all right so so moving on engine moving on all right so so let's talk about what we you know came here to talk about when I'm going to talk about things that Dan doesn't like we're gonna talk about vs samsung Emily oh sorry thank you yeah no we'll talk about Mobile World Congress a little bit uh let's let's do some some Android ecosystem stuff here so let's talk about Google vs samsung I this this past week reports came out from the wall street journal that Google was worried / samsung and I guess that's that's rightly so I mean Samsung is huge there are a massive dominating force in android so last year samsung shipped more than 200 million devices more than their clip the closest competitor 200 million more than the closest competitor that's huge there's been previous reports past many months that galaxy is becoming a household name the people were searching for galaxy more than searching for android well you know that report that doesn't mean anything to me personally because the most popular phone is called galaxy so you're gonna be searching for the popular phone you're not gonna search for android so that's that other variants yes yeah so I that that report i just say okay somebody well how many people search for the more droid instead of android yep it's a lot colder it's so Oh owned by Lucasfilm so so why is Google worry could it be that some day Samsung could come and say listen we're pushing this much of your product we're making this amount of mobile money mobile advertising money we now want a larger chunk of the change right now they get roughly ten percent so they could come out and say okay we want fifteen percent twenty percent whatever the case maybe they could demand more money and if google says no then they could say okay well we already have this massive user base so we're just going to fork Android and we're gonna do our own thing and they could go the way of kind of like Amazon did with the kindle line Sam droid or or what they could do is they can bait and switch they could get their their Tizen you know operating system up to snuff and then bait and switch and call it galaxy and everybody be like you know what and they could do that and the average consumer probably wouldn't really realize a lot of things but I don't see them doing that I who knows they think they could they could fork Android and make it look like Tizen tizon and eventually just use that who knows but so so what do you guys think should google be worried about Samsung's dominance is this something that you know that that Larry in the Sergey or having nightmares about you know or is this you know not not a big deal what you guys think what you as long as the devices have the Play Store and everything that Google can make money off of Google is a okay they're happy about it and they make money off of it the more devices that they can get into people's hands that have all of google services and chrome and are browsing the web is a win-win for google so anyway phone manufacturers want to change it whether it's good or bad is good for google yeah a lot of people kind of ignore what google's real core business is when it doesn't really matter somebody uses iOS or android in any form factor the only point that samsung becomes a huge threat to them is a people if if samsung gets good enough services that actually tie them to samsung phones and that has it become the case because Samsung services just honestly suck look at s voice look it they don't have any kind of media services or anything that can really lock people in and you know HTC and motorola you to be in this exact same position they were in a dominating position and because Android is so interchangeable and so hoping to competing different types of services people can easily you know if Samsung trips up it's nothing to move over to a motorola HTC because if you're in the Google ecosystem you can migrate and not miss a beat really yeah I think I'll a Chicago pointer it's really too soon people haven't really been adopting samsung samsung has been around that long they're not that huge for that long first of all second of all a big selling point to Tyson is that you can run android apps via Open Mobile well look to google to shut that down real quick if it becomes a problem and the last thing I want to say about that is if you believe that Samsung with Tizen is somehow a bigger deal than Google with Android and Motorola you're crazy yeah and that'll that leads into a very good point Nate so is that part of the reason you know that these Google X phone or motorola x phone rumors are coming out is this hopefully a way for Motorola to you know start getting back into the market to come out with some you know some some bombs really and shake things up you know and hopefully keep samsung in check well one of the first things that Google said was we bought Motorola for their patents and then one of the first things they did after that was take a motorola executive out and put a google executive in so they're not running them as a separate entity and and then and then what a month or two ago sometime in the past so many months they a formal agreement was reached to not use the motorola patents to go after to go after Apple so those patents how is that but not accurate because that's not at all what the agreement was they agreed to not actively sync injunctions for people violating their friend patents they don't who the brown Oh after Apple because actually under the terms of their agreement Apple is totally available to be sued over them and seek injunctions because eplers refusing a license at any rate and they've said so in public court documents when you refuse to take the license for Fran patent at any rate you're still totally liable for an injunction thank you Dan I was under the impression that grant adams could no longer be used against Apple yeah there's a list of like 14 disqualifying exceptions of which Apple is breaching like six so there there are some but not all of them with regards to the X phone coming to save the day I mean Google's always been looking for that phone to you know get into a lot of people's hands and they haven't had a really haven't had one compared to the size of Samsung I think well nobody has compared to the size of Samson I think that you know they cross this up with the we bought them for their patents to protect ourselves kind of thing but I don't believe you know I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now I think that they bought them to have much more tighter control over the entire spectrum from you know supply chain to everything else all the way down the line I think they they it was kind of an end-around play to Samsung they knew what they were doing yeah I mean I think they definitely did buy them for their patents I think that the other stuff is more or less the fringe benefit and the reason to buy them for their pens and then keep them rather than buy them for their patents and then sell off the Corpse right yeah would be really awesome if the x-phone was vanilla and all the phones were vanilla and that could be a selling point and that could be a very very appealing thing that you could buy motorola phones workbook yeah and i think you're gonna have some but yeah i think the other thing with Samsung is that really their their house of cards right i mean they're hugely successful in their selling millions of devices and i don't mean to diminish that but they're cheap plastic that of course they're selling millions of them because they're freaking 3d printing them off the lines like they're candy right like there she's plastic and yet they're selling at the same price as an HTC built phone that's made out of you know unibody aluminum did you see a ridiculous planned today whatever nonsense that they had on the 1x right click these are premium devices selling at six hundred dollars versus Samsung's cheap a stick at six hundred dollars and did you see HTC's post today on google+ they said metal greater than plastic and then they then it then it then they pictured the the new HTC one that was that mean I was a direct slamming since yeah and it should be really I mean though it should be those samsung phones are so flimsy and I mean they can kind of make up for it by saying that there's some of the lightest phones around or really who it was picking up a phone and thinking this is so heavy I can't stand another day i am all right getting to the point where they're so like that it's uncomfortable right like i don't feel like i'm holding a piece of paper when I'm holding my cell phone that'd be kind of cool actually so what I get back on track here you guys don't think that you should have anything to worry about but no but it's nice to have motor role in your pocket to help push things along one thing I wanted to say real quick is that I don't and when it comes to android I don't want to see anybody become androids Apple I don't want to see anybody be in the in the situation where they're the only company that people are looking to because that is just going to cause everybody else to stagnate all they have to do is kind of hit the status quo and everybody's fine that makes sense everybody is in good competition people are going to keep innovating and that's of it that makes sense wikia that's that make sense yeah I agree so I Mobile World Congress you know what we're here for right so uh as rookie said you know we didn't go this year obviously we're here but right now Darcy and Josh are flying back uh Josh actually probably flying over PA right now I talked to him a little bit ago and he was in New York City so hey Josh wave to you up there um anyways so phones that there was a lot more excitement as wokee said compared to to CES we saw the optimus g pro we saw the lenovo k900 the asus fonepad a Firefox OS reference device ZTE had device and out of all those anybody have a favorite and favorite film they saw this week I just want to say that it was around midnight the other night and tarsi was messaging me in a tizzy he is a big note to guy and he loves that optimus g pro so that's a scary thought I saw his review on that he actually said that he's like huh I might uh might be getting upgrade soon you know yes he said it was the best voting ever seen really absolutely giddy it was weird so let's talk about that so the optimus g pro is the samsung galaxy note 2 of LG without the s pen i mean it it looks for argument's sake it looks exactly like it I mean the debt down to the way the buttons are laid out and then I mean it if to be honest with you if you help two of the devices up side by sides to back a few feet you'd probably and you know cover up the logos obviously you'd you know the rising logo oh yeah cover up the massive verizon low book is the gsm version you know and you'd be like oh wow there's two galaxies notes you know they look the same in my opinion so the optimus g pro comes with a 1.7 quad-core Snapdragon 600 and maybe that's why that thing flies maybe that's why Darcy was such a fan of it I mean it that's that that's the step that's a same processor that's going to be coming in the HTC One the Snapdragon 600 so is it thinner uh widthwise than the note 2 I think it has less of a bezel yeah because that was one of I I think that's one of Darcy's compliances the note 2 is so wide what does have a better screen it's a 1080p screen 5.5 inch LCD and that that right there is is a winner you know that that's it's it's a 1080p screen yeah no 2 does not have that um it it's going to come with Android 4.1 point2 yeah I know android 4.2 is out but we probably won't see a whole lot of phones come with Android 4.2 unfortunately for a little bit chances r LG is gonna update it you know quote unquote soon but it it looks like a nice phone uh I would it looks exactly like you know I hate to keep saying I mean looks like TouchWiz really does their nature you are is now it's called nature versus to touch what's causing well when I know LG LG's you I was Africa that's called action or it's called but it's it me it's a great thing we can't remember it looks like a touch wins but in many ways it it's a it's a nice device it really did if you're somebody that needs a pen and spen you know then you're not gonna have that but you're gonna have a better screen you're gonna have a better processor and you know a same roughly roughly same other specs storage in and ram but John you have a note to looking at this device are you jealous don't tell me don't get me wrong I don't it's not that uh the hardware isn't great I just don't trust LG g2 push that software updates right you know I mean that that kills it for me so you really intend to run the native software well I mean even the developer communities for LG just aren't there that's very samsung to if it if LG phone but if LG LG proves themselves together on it if they improve on their track track record then it would be a device that's worth having to me but I just don't I just don't see it out of them yet so it's not tempting me alright shuttle I hear LG after another device here lenovo k900 we first saw this at show stoppers at CES wiki and i were there we got to we got touch it we got to check it out and it's a massive phone 5.5 inches 1080p screen yada yada yada and the neat thing about it you know we they weren't really telling us a whole lot of CES they said you know it has an intel and there was rumors its dual core didn't really know a whole lot i tried talking to the intel guy and what can I were sitting there hammering and we're liking us why is Intel now able to use a dual-core processor because six months ago in Intel said Android wasn't ready and they came back with really some ants are basically saying Android still not ready but our processors are good enough to fix that is basically what he said yeah six months ago we couldn't hit the power footprint on dual core and now we finally pan well whatever they did so they did something right because the reason the whole reason we're mentioning this device is because holy hell is it fast so so Darcy slapped antutu on it it's an intel clover trail 2 point 0 gigahertz dual-core and hyper threading with with hyper-threading so if you know anything about benchmarks a lot of people do some people don't it's scored over 25,000 which pretty much blows everything away today now in comparison the Tegra 4 got 36,000 but Tegra 4 is a little different architecture and it's coming from somebody that has been in the Android you know business a lot longer than intel has intel this is their first you know major foray with the dual core so that's why is it such a big deal they're roughly four months at least yeah so yeah like where's the gift what is there now well let's compare them with the Tegra 4 that's not gonna be here until that's we're talking about yeah oh I'm not you're done with the Intel well the Intel got the 2500 the Tegra 4 got 36 and Qualcomm claims that their Snapdragon 800 it's gonna come out at about the same time as the Tegra 4 beats the Tegra 4 let's do SAT by second heard from a pure Intel standpoint I'm giving them a you know a high five you know definitely they've come a long way it's for having a person in the game I think one thing that looks to be happening is a lot of your a 15 yo like Samsung and NVIDIA two are really lagging behind what they initially thought they would be able to get these chips out and Intel is really moving at the pace that they're getting better it becoming power efficient a lot faster than these OEMs forearm are getting better at making their chipsets faster so and that makes sense because entails making processors for 40-some years yeah oh yeah the cannolis and are indeed to do that and do it correctly so right right now Intel's competing on pretty even ground with the process and they are due for a completely new atom architecture and moving down and lithography in the next year they're on an accelerated release there yep you know you talk about Intel with a tick and then they talk there about getting ready to talk yeah they can move down process the process sighs a lot faster than they are manufacturers they're going to get to 40 nanometers when arm is dropping it 20 and it's this that's really huge for the next few years really so we're going to talk about some of the devices here move along but those you that are watching live or listening or watching later go ahead and leave a comment let us know what your favorite device from over mobile world congress 2013 was was it of tablet let us know which tablet was in the phone let us know which phone just we can cuddle you know see what see what's out there and in terms of you know what what you guys like what you didn't like and we'll look at the comments in a little bit and talk about you know what do you guys think um it's moving along with another device here let's talk about a 7 inch phone on the the asus fonepad is basically a nexus 7 in terms of you know sighs and look I'm not all in Turtles but yeah the internals aren't I mean obviously it's an Intel processor one point two gigahertz atom processor and you know the Nexus Evans Tegra 3 but it looks to me it looks like a nexus 7 so it's a phone and if you watch a sis's promo video about talking about they basically said that you shouldn't have to crowd around the phone to a tiny screen to show you know friends and family a picture or a video or something you know you shouldn't have to hold or carry a phone in your hand and then when you want to do something bigger go grab your tablet you should have to worry about carrying two devices so why not use a 7-inch tablet as a film and that's how they came up with the phone pad it's an hspa+ device and their promo video shows people walking around this you know where's my Nexus 7 there it is now walking around with a mask like this yeah like can you hear me now you know I mean like all night yeah blooming Heather just to be clear you can currently do that with an hspa+ enabled Nexus 7 yes you can do the wachawi now but you have to have screws IP range of Wi-Fi yeah come on you can pull out the zack morris phone and look like Saved by the Bell all over again so now with the HSPA a fossil exit seven you can do this already with groove IP you have to use groove IP to do that or so or another VoIP service so and some people have already done this it's nothing new but that's you know the Nexus 7 is marketed it as a tablet whereas the phone pad is marketed as a as a phone so this is a little different it's something that we own no one's really done yet so I would I want to know is if you're watching and listening smoke signals however you're tuning in would you walk around walk around in the street with a 7-inch phone up to your face or you know or do you use bluetooth you know is it who cares you just gonna keep your phone in your pocket your purse you know or got its massive so some you know some people have smaller pockets women you know you're not going to put this in your pocket so what do you know you gonna do walk around the Bluetooth gonna use it I'm come I'm curious what you know the average consumers are thinking of that so cute you commented know what I want is google glass catches on the beam of grumpy cat like you know like in the asus fonepad and then just be like no is this another one of the devices that there are only planning to sell in Asia there Europe Asia yeah there's no plans at this time for you know i am now that doesn't mean that you can't buy it and use it here on a gsm network i don't know if the ivan looked at the radios it's just a plus it should probably run on t mobile but it's getting to the point where nobody in America is gonna sell anything that doesn't work on LTE so it'll be interesting is so yeah let us know will you walk down the street or with a seven-inch seven-inch er up I your face or will you use bluetooth or not at all I'm waiting for the 11 inch foam pad personally just don't do the handle on the back of it so you can hold it up like this but I see those third-party they make them already go ahead and practice now go and pull out your nexus 10 or whatever 10 inch tablet out and walk around you know that be just awkward you to VoIP app on your pixel just walk around with that thank you i can look like an elevator and just having that thing and just talking right before you know what Nate there you go do you have the LTE version of the pixel no but I should get it and then you should get it and then just open with email and I can just walk around oh yeah yeah get ghetto just gmail straight out of the browser damn calling walk around now they called anitha I'm doing it buddy I'm doing it with your 100 megabytes of verizon service yes what should a nibble to be like a woman calls for about another gates alright so let's move on talk about another mobile world congress device so firefox was there uh I love that guy his accents awesome he has he don't remember his name but he has red hair he is reminded me of the Firefox logo like the whole entire time he was talking like wait curly hair down to here the whole time he's talking I'm like dude this dude's perfect for Firefox like nope joking aside so really hope she doesn't see this sorry I hope he does he was awesome um he you said that the Firefox OS is going to be targeting emerging markets where smartphones are really expensive and basically you could people the average consumer can only afford a feature phone and what Firefox wants to do is they want to replace the feature film because they want you to do more than play snake and text message and they say they want to be a cheap alternative that allows you to do more I like pen after bada not android you think that's what they're going after well if that's the if they're going for like the pseudo feature phone like quasi smartphone that's ba de ya or tizon tizen in terms of once tied tins and tons of whatever how do we say that name there you go leave us in the copy room yes yes so in the comments tell us how to pronounce that please the phonetic he's in ties and phonetically spell it out it is when you look at the proper pronunciation for that it's touch kiss oh my goodness alright so what's with the tea and ends with something so I'm so let's talk about the grand MIMO MIMO memo from there you go see the grand Nemo the great memory know is those cases pads that never exist I to the great know from from ZTE so is yours ed if you're from the rest of the world or Zed te if you're Darcy Hayes the only person I've ever heard say is no no you dude I live closer to Canada to get advertisements on the radio for the blackberry z10 all the time alright so the official press release for the Zed grand memo the ZTE yeah it uh it said that it was a a Snapdragon 800 processor and immediately as soon as I saw the press release I messaged the number one hardware God that I know Dan Charlton I was like holy schnikeys Dan this comes with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 it's the world's first device to have an 800 and dan just replies no grumpy cat he's like no nothing good that's grown at type as I was like dan what do you mean no he said well that's not coming out for months I said dude it's all over the press release it's not sampling to manufacturers yet they certainly are viewing a device that has it since they can't get their hands on one so so then being Dan he keeps telling me no you're wrong you're wrong i said day they put in the press release he said no it's a it's a typo they meant to say 600 I said ok so I'm going down through the press release specs and I get down to the radio and I copy and pay Radio to Dan and I said all so I guess it's not coming with that God radio that was announced it's going to be every LTE band and dances wait a second that radio is the same radio that's in the s4 pro hmm something doesn't jive here and then and then the next day a couple of actually android police reported officially first Android please put in 22 on it and did some testing and came back and saw that it was what Dan had said the day before so Dan was right all along that it was a was an s4 pro it was funny his people actually contacted Qualcomm and said hey so you put out an 800 and her like no no no it's a 600 and then it turned out corporal I don't know they just said oh no no it's just a no native hundreds they probably not 600 yeah so yo p it was it uh is it I don't know it was interesting their press release also said had two gigs of ram but it only had one gig of ram like who is in charge of that in like he lost that means like ridiculous so was it the p1 of any video for having it cge is there only signing partner for the Tegra 4 yeah this car has 20 gallons of gas you know a capacity of 20 and you get on the road it has to oh sorry we meant to it was that was a typo somebody broke towards both ran out of gas I thought it was two gallons with like an 18 gallon reserve or something okay so so let's talk about some mobile world congress tablets uh we have the asus padfone infinity which is like the PadFone the padfone 2 it's a phone that slaps into a tablet shell and becomes an awesome power than you get infinite battery life it's it you should actually check our review actually on youtube on that on Darcy talked you know about like eight or nine minutes or so with their marketing team and you get a lot of hands-on on the on the device a lot of information about it it's it keeps getting better in the beginning you know the PadFone people complain it was kind of big kind of bulky kind of heavy it's been getting better and better better and now it's up to version infinity so that means it's good because higher is better for 90 beats another version now yeah yeah into cost 10 infinity and beyond you know like it's gonna be they're gonna come out with a pet di o the PadFone Buzz Lightyear something just got to pick a larger inside so uh galaxy note 8.0 we knew that was common we heard you know it leaked all over the place it was on picasa where android phones go to you know tell their tale of um anybody thinks does anybody think it looks like a little like a little child's toy that you would buy in toys r us like the child's children toy plastic Samsung product yes no III mean more so than they typically do it looks like a galaxy s3 that they decided to blow up exactly cheap plastic a much-loved and childlike yes designed for humans as opposed to everybody else the design things for I don't know okay so i would think that children would use this and since you can use it as a phone think of it like a three-foot kid walking around using this as a phone that'd be crazy my you know what I'm gonna buy one for my son are you see him use it that would be the funniest thing ever now dig it out take some pictures send it back so the reason that Samsung came out with this everybody thinks is 8 inches is roughly the same size as the ipad mini iPad minis like seven point eight point nine I don't know if we forgot the fact that this is not the first eight something inch tablet from samsung maybe more but down oh I hate inch tablet this is their new one that's why because they release a product and then Apple releases a similar one and then Samsung updates their existing project from viously samsung is ripping apple off well they're not ripping them off but they're competing and that's exactly what I'm saying there that's there this is their answer you know what their their note line so is it awesome do you want one yeah I not down with the whole your country kid I was bhulaiya don't believe in I on air like that were under own oh so most interesting tablet besides the the fonepad i think was HP Slate just because HP this is therefore a this is their first time getting into the officially getting into the android market space and I think that's cool you're getting you know the HP brand name that everybody knows has been making computers for years yet touchpad might not have been the best tablet in the planet buy laptops are not the best laptops on the planet either you know but it everybody you know when it comes to HP or dell or whatever insert major computer manufacturer here they're all roughly the same until somebody has a problem with them and then they hate them and then they love another company that that's really awful I'll tell you why it's a bad tablet freakin look at it compared to the Nexus 7 okay thirty dollars more so the HP slate 7 comes in at 169 nope it's a nexus 7 is thirty dollars more ok so the there's no GPS no no NFC as el gps NFC you right three megapixel rear camera people are gonna like the fact that as a microSD card people a lot a lot of people hated on the Nexus 7 because they wanted more space as all 88 meg is to learn a gig and you know 16 gig and so that'll be a selling point for people that you know what more space or want throne that you know 64 gig and whatever um one gigabyte of RAM yeah but then Nexus M&N did you know 70 better am the evo the original one yeah one gig does not cut it anymore no it doesn't i think rented the Nexus 7 has one game of our amps here so oh yeah but beautiful the Nexus 7 has 1 Giga Ranma as I said now the screen 1024 x 600 so it's competing with the kindle fire for the 159 ouch that's what i'm thinking you know it's a the kindle fires a little lower specs better resolution than that it's a it's a cheap tablet it's nothing more you know and we also enjoyed for tia youtube channel you can check out the hands on there and first look there and it looks like a nice device you know it it is also running almost dark and room that is nice if somebody another selling point for us people it has it has Beats Audio which why no absolutely no but some people love it yeah so does I don't know why but yeah some people do consider an egg that what's gonna be in stores where as the nexus 7 you can't get in stores usually yeah that's a good point well you can go pick one up at staples or best buy yeah but nobody is a stable there I i live in love nowhere and i have a staples here I'm staples are staples here I minimal if I had a staples i would eat later regardless yeah a selling point on this in my opinion is the support because we know that Google doesn't have the greatest support are you kidding in the world wait hundred deal with Google support my nexus 7 it was fantastic I know dirt didn't you have something I didn't have a problem you can see my post an article about it I didn't have a problem when I replaced my nexus 7 but that doesn't mean that I can't find thousands of people that have complained either this is we can't find lots of thousands of people complaining about HP's customers it you know it's pretty good there the paragon of customer service real quick I'm customer service to be honest with you either Meg Whitman is a liar or HP got this out really fast no shoes cause about that long ago about how if HP came out with the tablet soon it would be running windows yeah and then they come out with an android tablet and she pretty much ruled that out i think four months ago I they shouldn't ruled out android too after she killed webos mm-hmm here's like f mobile we're sticking to windows well a year ago HP also said we're never making another desktop computer again and then a month later like oh look at Greg their desktop we made it yeah yeah they actually were they closed down plant plants and and they closed that whole entire consumer division and then all of a sudden yeah well we never really said we were doing it forever yeah yeah we just meant for the next month which is felt like taking a vacation guys were truths just only last year either way I think that this speaks volumes for Android to have a major device manufacturer major pc server you know desktop manufacturer make an Android tablet the same undergo would say the same thing if Dell made another android tablet samsung samsung is a major pc vendor that makes tablets let me know that tablets fortunately i would consider them a major piece renovo mixed time asus acer I wouldn't consider view those major I think there's one of the larger pc distributors on the planet I think all of them are kind of dabbled their feet in the water but it speaks volumes for how successful android is that they're doing this but it also speaks volumes of how clueless HP has been in the last couple of years to the market because webos was not a bad platform they just killed out with crab really terrible partner and you know if they don't compete there in age in the touchpad wasn't terrible it was just fancy and but but the pre the pre was terrible yeah they didn't improve on those things but I if they won't make more getting adoption I think they have to come over better hardware for the money right so Scott talked about Mobile World Congress Awards a every year they award to best you know pretty much there's too many categories to list them all pretty much everything under the Sun it has an award so let's talk about some relevant ones here I what's go over a little bit of history first the in 2012 best smartphone was the s2 and this year was galaxy has three good everybody kind of agrees upon that um whatever I mean the consumers believe that it's the best part yeah okay what is the one location for best best selling or best quality the mobile enabled the consumer electronics device the galaxy camera interesting best mobile infrastructure smart LTE network which is a product of Samsung device device manufacturer of the year samsung outstanding overall mobile technology this GTOs choice was a samsung as well so Samsung actually walked with five awards from over World Congress best talent in 2012 was the ipad 2 and now it is the is use google nexus 7 best consumer app facebook that's wrong that's a lot now my consumer apps scott was google maps so that's a that's a huge change and google maps works yeah wow maybe they use Facebook's iOS native app and didn't bother using androids because if Facebook's Android one still sucks majorly but hey hey that's a really good point though I wonder what version they were using well it's just me it's mobile its Oliver I mean it's all platforms that yeah but did they just average the suckiness so they portable pneus of razors all enjoyed and then they loved it except for how crappy it is on Android we don't if the mobile website qualifies as an app that's pretty good oh the last appt I'm actually really surprised about especially for enterprise yeah the best enterprise app was voted to be Evernote now don't get me wrong you can do productivity on on Evernote so I would have assumed this award should be called best productivity app but best enterprise app I I did when I think enterprise app I don't think of Evernote I don't know I think of something like drive would be a better option than ever know from yeah yeah yeah bro box is not a good job this year to things like I mean it it's it you know I we all know what Evernote is I understand that you can use it for business you can use a ver productivity but for example consumer I I wouldn't I wouldn't want to use Evernote for work because it you know but that is you use the OneNote app for Android I just because that's an enterprise app it is just weird so yeah so those of you that are in the you know your your career takes you to some company every day that use mobile apps let us know would you consider Evernote to be your company's you know enterprise best app that you use work no it's a question to ask would you ever consider Evernote being in the category of an enterprise app yeah it's a concern is it that's great better category as its productivity app or an enterprise app and answer that question oh if we thought productivity app out see it's a great product productivity app its design grade has great functionality yeah but it's like a super great product it's not an enterprise exactly exactly did it anyway I think it's perfectly good product is not gonna cry scream all I know is when we all when we all decide to start a new company we're gonna start using Evernote because it's an inter present the best photo here so uh besides Mobile World Congress there were some other news floating around on the interwebs the past few days that we covered in android authority so the verizon galaxy nexus the redheaded stepchild of the nexus line is getting an update soon in quotes air quotes on the next six months yeah so so this year's a verizon support rep took to Twitter to say that it's coming soon so this says one thing that yay the device is gonna get another update it wasn't forgotten but the most wondrous 1.2 is coming well yes yeah exactly what we're going to is coming because remember it's for updates behind it's a GSM counterpart you'll be awesome if it has jumped to key lime oh my goodness that they were completely redeem themselves did you guys see the tweet it actually the the the rep actually said don't worry you know Samsung is gonna push out the update soon huh yes samsung doesn't risk out the update I love how they point the finger blame to people that yeah that's exactly why they did it so so right now if you're mad that you don't your Galaxy Nexus doesn't have an update in you see Risinger samsung phone verizon just said it's samsung so now you can be mad at samsung when it's not simple adopting my son's fault in samsung has nothing to do with it in the slightest it's Samsung's fault that we're the only carrier in the world that has a locked bootloader on the galaxy s3 so don't get mad at them for investing the development effort for doing it to us those bastards they put this shitty phone on our service so we come to so moving on to other device news this week everybody knows if you watch the show listen to the show that this is my phone and I love it and I hate it we have a some weird relationship this well I have some some up I some good news with this film this week's and bad news with this phone the the bad news will throw off that first HTC said on facebook hey I just want to everybody know you saw the m7 recently it's running sense five minutes don't worry The One X is going to get it the one x+ is going to get the F the one s is going to get it and the butterfly is going to get sense 5 as well LOL droid DNA was not mentioned me that's that's just funny no I hate relationship so so moving on with uh now the good news for the droid DNA we now have a near working AOSP rom on the on the DNA radio works it has 4g data as 3G data um you can make a phone call but audio and phone call doesn't work audio yes phone call just maybe we're just can't make a phone call right still in development not this tank romances me know you can place a phone calls just doesn't work yeah so you got to use like touch tones like it's you know like Morse code or something oh dude that'd be fun it's like a movie Frank it's like moviefone you know colligative it's you know progress is being made Chad just stepped on the development team and I'm like a giddy schoolgirl right now because I used to run his Colonels back in the day dan actually used to work with him on kernels that for the incredible back in the day he's a good developer I'm excited to have him have him on DNA AOSP cm10 Latino yeah well we should we shoot him on the show um so other news uh oh samsung galaxy s4 is officially coming now samsung announced that March 14th in new york city at 7pm it's gonna be announced what are you gonna be there yes I am very cool very cool so what to have you on the show the following week or later that week I haven't seen I don't know what day the week that is yet oh let me see here look I can have this thing called a calendar I think it tells me so the 14th is a thursday uh oh you know it that's at 7pm so that's online come 930 you're getting on this here and here you tell us all about it we'll see i'm a cloth on for a few minutes at least I'm sure you should from a galaxy s4 yeah you better do it from the get you better join the hangout from the galaxy s4 you know hey guys are all this okay I don't know how much I can talk about oh say is that I asked for a review unit when I RSVP to the event okay at the time they said we haven't officially announced anything so we're not doing anything with review unit waiting lists understandable and now it's been no they have officially announced so are they doing something with its hard to tell if I mean everybody knows it's going to be the s4 but there being no they put a big flyer with a 40 on it because good but at the Final Four in March no that's late am an array of course about the basketball this is going to be the galaxy blaze for this is actually gonna get premium on this is going to be like the fourth iteration of a crappy cares there may be a way for free the graduate exquisite very damning myself here when I went to the note 2 event I did do all home with a note to review unit so hopefully that will help that will happen at the s4 okay good well we look forward to your joining the thing out from an s4 we look forward to your your future review looking I'm sure it's gonna be awesome because well you just do good work man well thank you Oh sedan the way a little bit of carrier news our favorite carrier is being awesome as usual yes so t-mobile announced some of their financials and in the process of doing that sort of revealed the fact that they have completed their LTE build outs in Kansas City and Las Vegas it's not yet official which is to say they're done with the physical construction but have it actually publicly announced it it's there it's just not being used at all um they're planning to have 100 million people in the country covered by the middle of this year 200 million people covered by the end of the year they're also turning on pcs that's the 1900 megahertz band hspa+ in richmond virginia and orlando florida as of I think those today might happen yesterday which brings them into about 144 million people covered by 1900 megahertz hspa+ and 225 million covered total between pcs and the AWS and rumor has it they'll be launching their LTE networks officially on March 27th probably with more than just the two cities online by them so the question is is when will I ever get it covered hashtag covers better than Derek should we bring that back out again if you know if I don't believe the Kansas City I can get the best here and I'm there oh oh you know I'm hoping somebody somebody does something around here besides verizon but yeah that's good I like being their footprint with their LTE role and nobody's really expanding their footprint with their LTE role not there rolling out to less than their lower levels services yeah because that's just way it works let's all just let's all just go to Kansas City dude khyber t-mobile LTE all right so uh so who here backed oh yeah last summer there you did just Derek okay last year so I don't even play console games but I thought it was neat ideas I gave 100 bucks um I'm in a couple weeks I'm gonna be getting my console device it they announced actually today that they will start shipping them March 28 does somebody stare that's four weeks huh that's a month it's a couple weeks that's a month it's gonna ship in a month in that'll be a couple of weeks from that he's saying a couple of weeks like a couple of cookies yes you know a couple mean a couple of weeks like when verizon says remember we were it's like a skip and a hop all right whatever a few weeks is that that is that better dan it's really more than a few several remember Dan I had that meet button do you I do all right so sure I have one of those too actually I know you used it a few weeks ago when we did the Harlem shake you didn't want to participate so your music videos on your fun that's a camera button so uh I I'm not that excited about it not because I don't play console games except don't but I'm not that excited about because we've seen something better since then we've seen a shield on the and the PlayStation 4 yes we're game giving now and the shield's can be like another four months ya know the price point the Ouya will be okay it'll be something to get a good perspective of for just honor bucks a hundred bucks yeah I'm not hating that I spent a hundred bucks on it all ma'am it'll be you know toy for my son right um um remember that rumor guys about Google having their own retail stores and everybody said all it's gonna be great they're going to push out Nexus devices they're going to push out you know the chrome pixel they're going to push out insert this they're gonna push out google glass cookies you're gonna they're going to give cookies out everybody walks in the door did you learn those were parties so every everybody thought it was cool and everybody then said well this is why they're doing and this is why it's good yes I was a sort of the article saying oh they're copying Apple because obviously opening a retail store is everything League patented idea and nobody has ever had nobody ever comes in it before well thank then maybe that maybe they were afraid of the patents because Andy Rubin actually said this past week that nope nope nope that is not happening the Nexus line doesn't need a retail store and or and them but the Nexus lime there's more to it no what the Nexus line needs is to be able to keep itself in stock now Nate I remember you wrote it actually a big article about why the Google doesn't need retail stores well I don't think they need them and I think they've got some hurdles to jump over like supply chain and some customer service issues and by customer service issues I mean when the nexus 4 launch that was a complete debacle faster disaster they shut the phone lines down and all that kind of stuff so they do have some hurdles to jump over I think what's worth mentioning is andy rubin didn't say there will not be retail stores he says we have no plans for retail stores so i'm going to put my lawyer hat on and really analyze that statement we have no plans well what our plans first of all and then he's talking specifically about the nexus line the store doesn't have to be around centered around the nexus line there's plenty of other products they have and Google Glasses much better served by retail environment and if you have retail stores you can get the word out about fiber which is a huge deal and people need to know about that so I do I find that they're not going to have retail stores no I don't buy that and Chromebooks making you think they'll have little fiber hubs in various cities basically which is a retail store I think there's a lot more benefit to having a store for Google then there is justice sell stuff I I do agree with that I hope you're right I I would like to see a google store I think it would be beneficial for you know for them pushing their brand pushing their products yeah well if they aren't like old times like and you have to keep in mind too they also denied way back when that they had a social media entity coming because somebody said is there something in the word called Google Circles and they said no we don't have any prospect by that name well they didn't have a product by that name I still got google plus because there's a service within Google+ but there is no process so it won't be it won't be a retail store to maybe they just won't sell nexus devices and if it's also everything else well I could see them doing something like um other manufactures do where they open sort of sub stores within best buys and staples that would they do that with chrome chrome books already damaged that's wise and we're we're in the UK and pc world stores we don't have those here I guess I'm like yeah I mean in in various you know retail electronic stores I can see them expanding that but I don't know that they necessarily are well served by opening their very own brick and mortar stores why pay all that you know physical rent mm-hmm it wouldn't online is so much more efficient and they're already doing an online it just the only reason the Apple does it is to have that service that customer service but hopefully you make a product line up where you don't need all that kind of support with all the Google's online services anyway so with chrome you're not talking about how to do best and sun like running around saying it just works while having 24 hour day freaking training sessions so people can figure out how to make it just worked now what one thing any Reuben didn't deny and he didn't confirm either he just kind of beat around the bush when he was asked about is google launching a music subscription service and he didn't say no he just said well you know it's still new service you know that a lot of things can happen you know there's a lot of room for growth is basically what he said so i wouldn't say that that's a confirmation but but furthering that that rumor there's been there was a report actually music the music industry actually came out and said google has a huge amount of users a huge user base we know and then there's the huge user base of youtube if they could utilize that basically that's dollar signs for us so the the music industry said to be a good idea basically said oh ah that would do a lot better than spotify and rdio could africa mean think about it you search a song and you get a little you know a card in google search and you click download or preview the song and you got it right next to youtube as well boom people search things and people watch youtube video i think about right for right from youtube you're watching youtube video and you realize you like too long and you want to you want to buy it what about the integration or something where you can just click the Buy button or the you can do it now enter your playlists or starter for later no no no like like actual like download purchase with google wallet and it wanted advice in the matter of two seconds yeah now the other thing to consider with this is that google has already changed the paradigm with music industry in terms of Licensing with the most recent big labels that they had into the play store they brokered globalized single global licenses with those companies rather than the sort of industry practice up until these particular contracts has been you make a USA license and a Canada one and in Europe one and you've got 47 licenses with each distributor of of Records google has already changed the paradigm on that and so if they can work that out with the rest of that that creates you know 12 licenses that they sign with these different companies and can then easily distribute worldwide filter destroyed through google com you know we'll see what happens i think that's daddy that's probable uh you know I really think that they could utilize that then the music industry and then make it successful so so Nate you've had the Chromebook pixel for a few days you're obviously as i said earlier on the show you're in the Hangout from your pixel you're gonna be doing a full review here shortly on the pixel right yeah tomorrow I'm going to be writing a full review and it's going to be over the course of a week now and I have really put this thing through its paces in a lot of different areas so it's going to be a really full in depth review and not like some of the other reviews where they have in an hour and say I don't like it so yeah a nice you've been using it for a whole week so you can actually give her a true review i've been using absolutely exclusively for a full week good cool i will you guys can find us on youtube watch us here on youtube as you're doing or listening you can find us on soundcloud android authority calm photo scroll on the bottom right there's a section called on air after every show we do post about what we talked about we have an IRC channel that we are currently in that weird no we 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