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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm dare cross I'm Scott Anderson I'm Dan Charlton I'm Johnathan Franklin and this week we're going to talk about the samsung galaxy s4 just launched it or was announced a little bit ago and we're going to talk about some Android ecosystem news some shakeups in the Android ecosystem and then we'll talk about some comparisons on the galaxy s4 vs the galaxy s3 the note to the HTC One and the Old Faithful the nexus 4 so let's get started Scott let's hit up some Android ecosystem news before we a sgs4 all the things okay so Andy Rubin you know the leader of Android Godfather right yeah you can call me yeah that's a better name he is moving on and he's moving to a new chapter at Google uh basically he states that he's an entrepreneur at heart and he's possibly moving to Google X some new things developing some new things yeah and the new leader is going to be sundar I don't know his last name tied to enjoy each other he knows sundar Pichai he's Indian so so he was the overseer of chrome and Chrome apps and now he's going to be leading Android as well which is pretty exciting and I'm very interested to see where he takes both platforms you guys think is going to happen here is this a good move by google or well i think that if andy rubin is moving on to the next chapter and that next chapter is in fact the google x project which we know a little about besides glass and draught self-driving cars i think that that that's awesome and that says a lot because if you look at what andy rubin has done he started out as an entrepreneur which he said it himself with with android he fostered android from nothing into this awesome global dominating force he is though he he's a force to be reckoned with when it comes to launching a product a successful product and Google is putting him on something that we don't know what it is but they want it to be as successful and have a major impact on up a major impact on society so I think that this is a good move you know and besides you know Google act is rumored to be all about you know wearable computing and making life easier well beat somebody that was completely successful in mobile technology seems like the perfect guy for that solution Alex I'm excited to see what comes out of Google X as a Google fan and then as an Android enthusiast I'm I'm curious as to what the future holds for Android especially know people for a while now but talking about mergers of Android and chrome and you know or they are they merging are they getting married and playing nicely you know no one really knows what's going to happen but then we have this this elephant in the room you know we have we have this Chromebook pixel where Chrome OS really isn't optimized for touch and it it's tagline is for what's next we don't know what next is but what we do know is we know that there's a Chrome Android statue coming out of a window we could we could read into things here and say where's that chrome statue coming out of a window AKA a tab enough so we're going to launch Chrome apps in a tab that's that's wrong we're gonna be able to launch it will launch android apps in a chrome tab I don't know I think that will be cool and then boost the market for larger sized android apps yeah yes so my advice to developers is if you have a android app that is not looking gorgeous on the Nexus 10 right now you might want to step it up a little bit just just in case I'm not crazy pixel gets android app support and you know what if i am crazy that doesn't happen the worst thing that can happen is is that you have a gorgeous app on the next step that's really a win-win scenario yeah exactly you've been crazy before so I don't know so in sedan Johnny you think you know this is a good move for for Android as a whole you know you know what sundar gonna do he's managing chrome and now Android I mean two major facing products for for google it's a really good move I think because um well Andy Rubin is already he was with day danger before he was with Android he's always gone from the moonshot kind of development side he's probably burned out a little bit he's probably a little bit bored with it because androids pretty well established at this point but it makes sense um you know Android to me he's bigger the bigger thing that Android needs to accomplish now is the google side of android more than the actual framework of android and sundar has been over chrome but he's also been over a gmail web apps calendar and the google drive and he's really it's gonna be interesting to see chrome and Android under one roof and kind of have one general direction as to how they're taking the usability of both operating systems and taking it into account for kind of a unified user experience to anybody that uses either one of them so i think you can really bring something new to the table because android always kind of been that division of google that's a little bit different yeah that's true yeah i agree i mean i definitely think it's good for the android community I mean Andy Rubin is you know sort of the inventor of more or less Android and yeah behind it all day really it's a lot of other people that are doing the meat and bones of what is android on a day to day basis we're just talking about the person managing it right like the thieves doortay is still handling UI design and you know all the other big name people are in all the other big-name positions throughout it it's just the director of the division is changing i think that soon dollars got the experience of managing a certain incorporate ongoing established division like Rome that will be good for Android to have that kind of credibility to it um and I definitely think it'll be interesting to see what any woman does because he's definitely a good entrepreneur all right so what else we got on the Android ecosystem front well ad blocking apps you guys are familiar with those you know install an app build your hosts file rebuild it add some hosts files they're basically ad blocking apps have been pulled from the Play Store basically this in a nutshell they were violating the terms of service according to google and this in turn hurt developers because if you could get a ad blocker then you would no longer see ads you also it would hurt Google because you know what Google's revenue is developers revenue is and it kind of hurts everybody on the platform so basically this will make developers a little bit more happy and will honestly be able to give you know developers money for their actual work and that's right how do you guys feel about this you know our that's our choice or I think it's it's it's good because developers do need to get paid for their work a developer that puts out a free app and then puts ads in there you know to make money that that's how they get paid for their work it's a free app now a lot of developers will have an app that you might cost two bucks three bucks or whatever with no ads that's fine too so it only costs a couple dollars we really need to learn to to not be cheap and to just give the developer money for their hard-earned work now what what's interesting about this my take is is that people AdBlocker only worked for rooted users so I really don't think this is going to change a lot of things because if you're already a rooted user you're okay with doing things a little outside the norm so you're just going to install the app from you're going to sideload the app you're going to install it from a third party location you're not going to download it from the Play Store that's fine you're just going to go and to XDA developers or roots wiki or wherever the app is posted and you're going to download it and install it there so I'm not saying to go ahead and do that I'm just saying that while this might be a step in the right direction to make money for developers and for google I just don't think it's really going to do a whole lot I just gonna make it harder yeah I agree and I mean it it's not that compressive to habitats I mean it's one thing for the applications that are spamming you with ads but those are getting fewer and further between as long as you are downloading every hello kitty app that you can buy all those right like don't just start downloading every random grabby apps or let your kids do it like my son his Layton his tablet / my old tablet with every single talking animal app there is and when you when you hit the notification window there's like 50 50 action shot not their closet yes I you gotta be yet to be careful another thing with mentions a lot of developers internationally don't have an option to actually make a play the paid app so ads are there only form of revenue yep it's a good point I actually did not know that ya know only places only certain places places that do not allow you to sell apps you can't be a developer it makes money through google play there you're very like they are to lodge do transactions there that's the problem okay all right then another big one uh is google announced that Google Reader is doing a little bit more cleaning and is taking away Google Reader until I first which I use daily I don't know about you guys are you guys constant users Dan not so much John yes you are Derek you i'm i am a on the on a laptop or desktop i have read or open right now i have read her open every day that i'm on a laptop desktop all day long um on my tablet and all my phone i use currents because it looks nice and I've been able to you know manage I kind of forced myself to using it at first I really didn't like it at first but uh I kind of forced myself to it and now I like it now I I use it all the time but I like to read her because it was easy to share content and I'm a guy that pushes out a lot of content and shares a lot of crap oh I miss reader but I'm curious what comes next because Google king can't kill a service that is that popular without giving us an alternative so this gets back into what we were talking about earlier i think currents in one way shape or another is going to come to chrome if that's going to be a web app or if that's going to be a android app iiii think that Google will have an answer for us before reader expires fingers crossed confidence hi it's called google notably a pastor google i/o mm-hmm oh yeah good point and it is so game-changing stuff happens at i/o everybody's calm down everybody realizes the world isn't ending because something cool and awesome is happening and then they're like I know it sucks it readers not here but look at these new bells and whistles on this app coucher exactly today okay okay I'm during all weird like 130 app updates during you know the keynote yes oh no miss so this is oh and while we're doing that spam with updates yeah so so let's talk about the thing that everybody wants to know about about three hours ago samsung took over New York City specifically Times Square pacifically Radio City and let the world know what the next galaxy is and Dan being our resident a hardware guy and most critical android authority member that I know or person or person um do you think it's as awesome as the hype portrayed it to be alright so tell us all about the hardware well I think it's not unimpressive they have a four point nine nine inch 1080p what do they call it some new type of an oled screen that's sort of super amoled but special um using phosphorous on something phosphoryl have a letter yeah a family yeah yeah some new Samsung basically they finally got to have a Ledge work on tiny and they call it some new day because they call it some new name every year so why not do it again uh what else that is at 441 PPI so that is pretty pixel that's not quite as much as the smaller HTC One but still very very dense and a lot denser than anything 441 pixels is nothing to be upset about no no those well beyond what you can distinguish with your eyes well beyond say it's like retina times two oh my god stop doing their words retina according to Apple for a phone is roughly 300 to 350 PPI so well beyond retina quality um the processor is going to depend on where you live if you live in a non LTE market than you get samsung's xedos 4 or 5 octa the much-talked-about dual quad-core processor with four cortex a15 two views at one point six fingers and then four more cortex a7 at only one point two gigahertz for you know the lower sort of less intensive tasks so it's a highly exciting to see the benchmarks on that the more impressive piece though is the least of my opinion is the GPU that's paired with it they're using the power VR sgx544 mp3 GPU so this is the exact same TPU that's in the ipad 4 with one exception one on the ipad 4 has four cores this one's only three so it's not going to be as powerful but it's also clocked way up to 533 megahertz so it should be a very very capable device in the graphics department for LTE markets notably the u.s. rumored also for the UK you're getting a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 that's the same CPU that's an HTC One and the LG optimus pro although this one is clocked to have 1.9 here so it's a little faster now what what graphics GPU is is with that so that's still the same in Adreno 320 that's any other ones with the same chipset but it's also the same one that's in with the the s4 pro so the same that's with the nexus for the droid DNA I mean it's definitely capable GPU but it's not as capable as the power vr that's so if you live in the US should we feel gypped that we're not getting as a powerful GPU to be no I wouldn't because I mean Qualcomm is also showing off that GPU running for simultaneous videos one on each processing core I mean it can handle pushing multiple HD videos at the same time it's definitely capable it's not as fast and as capable and as powerful as the Barbie honor but it's I mean it's certainly adequate okay all right now that that makes me feel a little bit better living on this side of the pond I guess yeah yeah I mean and it's it's the same as really all the other top of the line phones that you're getting in America right now because yeah everything else is shipping with this after 18 600 and this but this is gonna be a 1.9 gigahertz so it is gonna be a little bit faster so yeah you get a little bit little bit of a bump there in either version you're getting 2 gigabytes of RAM and it's gonna come with 16 32 or 64 gigabytes of internal storage so that's that's nuts right there so you could have a 64 gig internal storage and you can get a 64 gig SD card because the s4 supports that so you can have a server in your pocket if you want that's cool I mean so if you need massive amounts of locally stored video on your cell phone on your on your cell phone then you can do that with the s4 definitely definitely on the current apartment Sampson clearly does not agree with HTC and does think that pixels are everything so we have a 13-megapixel rear shooter in a 2 megapixel front shooter we've got a 9.88 one hour battery which is 2600 milliamp hours now back to the camera dan I think that that it's noteworthy to mention that not a whole lot of phones have a 2-megapixel front-facing camera that's true it's def already right notice when we're just vga camera 3 I want to close to read yeah most are either vga which i think is point 6 or their 1.3 megapixels so this is definitely a high-quality front-facing camera as well although i think that the s3 might have had a 2-megapixel front-facing i know that the HTC Amaze did I think the DNA has like a 2 plus that thing that shows off a wider angle to yeah yeah and it's definitely not you know record-breaking or anything but it's idiot nest we had a 1.9 so they gave it a point more so well they just made a marketing they just proud that musically rounded well you know what they did round up for the the screen during the presentation they said oh I had a 5-inch screen it's 4.99 why Bernie Sanders we knew you're making me know you're lying you're trying to fit bus you know don't do that yeah yeah in the connectivity department we've got all the usual suspects Wi-Fi a/b/g/n Wi-Fi to rags to a band Wi-Fi um gps bluetooth kelowna so it doesn't have bluetooth five like those leaks said huh no it does not it does not have the non-existent bluetooth standard that's good well that's good now it's good to know yeah once we saw that leak that had 55 point 0 bluetooth right now that doesn't even exist it's coming in the in the cellular connectivity department it's gonna differ based on whether or not you've got caught in your pocket if you do then you can get LTE on as many as six bands at once plus hspa+ up to 42 actually possibly or um but there aren't any networks that have that so it doesn't think their hspa+ gsm cdma so it mean it's going to be everything they made a big deal to say there's no reason for the warm with people's international version other than that they want to release something with their very own processor in it because the US version could run all the hair anywhere around the world and then during the presentation they made a big deal saying that you know the s4 was able to do 100 megabit down and 50 megabit up with over LTE naughty nurses cut kinda thing that that's called the definition of LTE yeah but III think they were doing that to say look if something awesome comes out in a year from now you know what I mean that look what we can do yeah there's nothing awesome that's coming out is actually coming out in month or less it's called lte-advanced exactly and that doesn't help because it doesn't support LTE Advanced and sports category 3 LTE the theoretical max down of 100 megabits and off of 50 and that's the exact same as every other LTE device that's ever been on the market and that is why we can play LTE and that's why they're gonna sell the next iteration because it's gonna be something that will be you know desirable right so so what causes this coming just your regular black and white or something fancy smancy black mist and white frost what both militarily samsung is taking after the car companies in coloring next we're gonna get plumb crazy candy apple red yeah i would i would buy a well you know what man candy apple red but I'd by a laser red you know I go for the supplier green model one sec sublime an alright so GD Muslim what's that do you mention the IR blaster no not mentioning IR blaster yeah that's a notable feature it will have an IR blaster so you can actually use it as a TV remote although the HTC one also has that feature um which is cool like audio system that's just built into this is Radio sinless 600 so MHL so so actually I have a question about that you said it's built into the radio that's in the Snapdragon 600 not actually the radio it's the radio front end which I never moves into the baseband that's paired with well no it isn't all right all right all right what I see so so let's talk about software because Samsung taught us a year ago that the age of the spec had passed and then basically the last 20 minutes the show doesn't matter oh just here to waste my time Samsung taught us that software is king and we need to sell features and sell you know we sell products by selling features because people don't care about specs which the general population does and they don't know numbers are then they just want it to work and how is it going to work with things such as smart pause everything has to have it has some beginning we exactly every except for floating touch maybe go an S touch i will call it s touch all right so look so smart pause is looking at a video and then you look away from it and it is smart enough to know wait a second they're not watching this anymore we're gonna pause it and then when they look back we're gonna we're going to resume okay so immediately when I saw this feature then I heard about this feature being released I was like hey I'm watching a music video or like some audio on YouTube and if it's smart enough to you know look no way I'm looking away and I'm doing your head banging you're screwed yeah no yeah it's off on off on so you said it's like off yay if it's like oh stop like you won't you can't advance this phone it would become tricky actually know what that's what i want to see LG somebody make a youtube video trying to dance in the video keep pausing well maybe that's a group place for you know somebody else's plenary alright so we'll get to that I so floating touch um that's where which out sounds you hover your finger over the screen and it kind of almost acts like the note 2 S Pen features but with your finger yeah that's awesome I got school I'd like to try it out yeah I i would i'd like to sit there and wheeze and Sony done that already though yeah i'm not aware i don't know so if you're watching right now and you're like floating touch so he's done that before let us know his comments yeah let us know in the comments i'm not sure now next feature I'll i was watching the the presentation i started laughing when i saw it because I'm like ha every android user can already do this but but you know what Samsung has to brand everything so they branded the s translator which the s translator is their own version of Google Translate where it does live translation with it when you're talking into it it literally does the exact same thing yes so 2s translate this would be unremovable bloatware that doesn't do anything you couldn't already do yeah so I understand this is you know we'll get to this the end here but there's a trend here you're gonna start to see so s voice came out with the s3 they continue to do it again this time yes voice you know is supposedly getting bigger better stronger batter more bloating like siri always more bloated you can the jellybean s voice oh yeah the jellybean voice actions voice search is awesome I don't see the need for Samsung's own s voice except for the ability to read text messages to you that's a nice feature I'm not you know that's nice but you really don't need s voice when you can do almost everything with the built-in ah you guys see a value for s voice no it's just unremovable gloat I can almost see it in a market that don't doesn't have google services ah there you go okay alright so Joe Hindy wins the prize um what if you win we'll talk after the show I I don't know thank you so so joe said that the ex Xperia Sola devices had floating touch sedan was right Dan's right a lot you know we should dan is almost always right I'd so so the next thing is s travel which is kind of like car mode and google maps and navigation google navigation so you know once again it's yeah you know these features kind of already exist yes int as as a google service so you noticing a trend yet all right so maybe the next we'll help you hit home so s hub which a bunch of samsung device has already had ass hub but but they made a key point in saying look you can go here to buy your movie or go here and buy your content your music your magazines in your books hey look this awesome magazine reader we have so they're dis aligning themselves away from google play apps such as play movies playing music play books and play movie or play magazines which they demoed during the presentation so they're you know not aligning themselves with google services like still now we started to see a trend here right um another google service at home saying the homes inc is cool homesync is when you take a picture on your phone and you have the samsung home server sitting in your house and it syncs to your one terabyte of local storage at your house but you can already do this you can already take a picture with instant upload it sinks it to Google server so you don't have to worry about your home server dying or your internet going out at home and not being able to access it so that's another sway there they're putting the kibosh on the goop the goob um oh good chat on channel is a cool service it's exactly like hangouts with one person although more bloated is so they're doing something that already exists again in android is called chat on but and last but not least service that's replicated that you really don't need is their version of google wallet which is that the first device to launch with visas new payWave their mobile payment system which really you could you can do this with what Google Wallet so before we get into a few other services that aren't already existing it kind of seems like Samsung is really really really pushing their ecosystem hard so that you don't you don't need Google you know you have samsung here for all these services and all these apps you don't need Google Play you can use samsung yeah I don't think just showing the apps in people's faces is going to make them use them ah people that don't know any better this they sell millions of these devices not everybody knows better that's very true the average person's going to see click here to buy a book you know or whatever the S hub book apps called and our magazine and they're gonna use that seriously why has it come to OEMs appealing to the stupidest consumer on that's what they do they're bottom-feeders that's where you get your money but I mean in some cases inferior blow where it hasn't worked though yeah but this is what I see from sams they are appealing to the least common denominator a person who can't figure out how to tie their shoes in the morning oh my god how in God's name do I accomplish anything with this sofa first of all it's pretty difficult to tires yours in the morning if you ever tried it I mean I do have sleep on me daily cessfully in this I millions of devices it's tragic I really wonder how much resources this all these things take up alright so so let's uh let's talk about another service that it actually doesn't exist let's talk about group play oh wait you wouldn't thumb of this stuff done but I so so so group play is kind of neat group play allows you to share music and docs and games without Wi-Fi you don't need to be on a common network to sit there and share music to one another and play music to one another during the presentation hey everybody you know had had their had what four or five five different galaxy s4 s and the women we're going to make surround sound you know a five-point surround sound system and that's kind of cool i guess with phones I didn't say how practical was I said it was cool but I i don't know i guess it's cool that way you know if you're I don't know wanting to share music when there's no Wi-Fi you and your buddy can sit there and listen to music on their own individual phone exactly what protocol are they using I don't know I were to I would assume something with Wi-Fi direct but I I obviously they noticed Wi-Fi that but basically what they're saying is we don't make you have a Wi-Fi network we're just gonna create an ad hoc Wi-Fi network of our very own you're still using Wi-Fi yeah don't they do that using that prevents you from using Wi-Fi yeah there's one thing they didn't actually demonstrate they didn't actually demonstrate s mean then even talk about SB me cuz she's stupid it's just NFC and activated Wi-Fi direct alright so the the camera features are interesting dual camera actually is probably one of the neater things that that you got to hear about tonight so dual camera is basically what it sounds like both cameras on the phone are are active so like right now let's say my kids are doing something cool and I gotta take a picture of and then daddy doesn't get to be in the picture right well with dual camera I can take a picture of my kids doing something cute and I can take a picture of me basically at the same time with the front facing camera and for lack of better words Photoshop myself into the picture with them that's not all work that's how it works photoshop is not used samsung photoshop sit for you guess shop ok this job is open okay let me let me explain better since Scott didn't like my explanation okay so you go to take a picture with the rear facing camera or video it takes the video it takes the the camera shot and then I say it would look better if I was in the picture with said scene I can then put my head shot in there going you know are so you get to include yourself in the videos and in the photos you get the photo balm your own photos you can take pictures of your friends and then include yourself because you're taking the picture in the that's weird yeah a putative being a photoshop because you're 2 megapixel picture looks a lot different now you can be that creepy guy that like goes to the mall and takes random pictures of people and then like you know that then dual dual cameras yourself into the background with all these people that is freaking weird oh so but that's a didn't eat it's a neat feature one thing I liked was as health kind of cool yeah built-in pedometer it has a built in pedometer which is kind of cool I don't know how accurate it's gonna be but you know pedometers are pretty expensive if you really want a nice one so that being built into it is pretty cool um gives you like other stuff like the daughter though you know where else can get of an auditor google down yeah but dude that is not accurate and you know it yeah yeah I haven't walked only 4 feet in the last two months yeah that is sewing okay mine tells me miles Dan you better start walking it's true I don't walk a lot my negative i don't understand that I'd so let's talk about Knox security for for business users um basically it is going to allow you to it enables Android se for certain apps you can have a phone within the phone you can have your business phone apps and your private phone apps and they can be secured from one another so if you want to run your business apps alongside your personal phone so people that are at a place of business where the business motto is you bring your own device people that have to bring their own device to work now make their IT department happy by not potentially bringing any type of bad stuff onto the network you know what those people could do stop buying applications from shady Chinese and Russian markets it's up to the consumers to make it right it is stop being an idiot I agree with you a hundred percent you know okay so yes people can stop being idiots but but isn't it a cool feature though that you could turn on Android se if you want you don't think it is yeah no I know well I'm sure Edmonds oh and I'm sure our security threats are things like this contact application has access to your contact list no way this calendar widget has access to your calendar no bomb yeah likings are the things that people are saying our security threats well of course this widget has access to my calendar that's the frickin point some people don't understand it though and the malware only is a problem when you're getting crap out of shady Chinese in Russian markets where they don't have the opportunity to purchase things legitimately through google play uh that i like the shady markets it's like the black market of phones alright so what other s features don't dilly dilly did we talk about everything and there's there they pretty much asked all the things they they didn't told you not to use that um so there's s adapt display which s adapt display basically means it's going to adapt based on the light needed to the display look good it's a marketing I mean it's a marketing term these already these already do that you know the brightness levels auto brightness it's not this exact same thing as auto brightness but for lack of better words yeah it really does it's been a way that they do it one of the okay I missed a feature and it is a feature the screen is glove friendly so if you live in an area that gets cold in the wintertime like right now outside here in PA which 20-some degrees I could if I walk outside the gloves on the old droid DNA doesn't allow me to use it if I'm wearing gloves if I had the s4 I could sit here with gloves on and touch the screen all i wanted to apparently you doesn't mean it work underwater adalah with the touch screens does that mean it works better underwater yes Scott its scuba diver friendly well no no I I I mean like shut up oh great marketing scheme you know we forgot we forgot another ESCA guys we forgot s album no I'm just kidding it's called story album oh my god which which reminds me of HTC Zoe it's you know it it's similar to that where you you take a whole bunch of pictures one day and you get a notification in the notification bar saying hey look on this date you took ten pictures do you want to group them together in an album and you say yes and then you can choose an album cover photo now that's nice have you taken a whole lot of pictures with your 13 megapixel camera okay all in all overall impression personally bloatware to the max and i like the hardware i would wipe it and then say goodbye just like I would with buying a brand new pc or something if you buy something you know loaded with bloatware from the store I pit put your own stuff on there say goodbye to the bloat our phones turning into this is root going to be the norm for everybody to do at least for the visitors people it all all the tech people or yeah are gonna it's gonna grow but it's disappointing yeah and all the people that don't know anything are gonna love it yeah joe joe hindy ass we talked about so you know we didn't talk about a racer drama shot but we just talked about homesync we don't want no drama in Smart Switch smarts which is cool if you're coming from an iphone if you're really coming from another android phone moving your contacts over in your pictures aren't really a big deal because your picture should be synced to the cloud anyways you're probably you think to Samsung Nick yeah well yeah you're you're right sorry up just in case you didn't sign in with your gmail account if you're moving over from an existing Android phone that you use Google services properly it's not that big of a deal if you are on a phone that did not do that or you are coming from an iphone they have Swartz which which is software you install on your computer to help you switch smartly to the new galaxy just like pies which is awesome right so and will anybody have anything exciting to say about drama shot or eraser we don't want no drama that's what I gotta say it's it's a feature alert it's yeah I mean they're cool don't get me wrong but they're their camera features they have cool names because there's an S in four of them and the features if they were fully baked and we're a little bit more less gimmicky and actually works to the way that you wanted to they'd be awesome but right now they're not really that now one thing about the camera that I that we should mention is it does come with photosphere but it's called 360 photo God co Samsung rebranded it because it does come with the latest version of Android 4.2 point2 so it does have photosphere capabilities but Samsung since they have a highly customized you know a camera app if they woulda noticed with is a camera that you know the galaxy camera yes they integrated a lot of that stuff into the actual camera app which I thought was really cool and I thought that was good a little bit pretty Stewart of them not to I agree but I I'm happy that they actually didn't wait for the next one so yeah okay so let's talk about some comparisons week on did a little bit of comparisons um so right now the latest phone from HTC the one you know people are going to be wondering which one they should get in the next month or two whenever they become available should they begin the s4 should they be getting the HTC One obviously none of us here have touched any of them held inning them done actual device reviews right now as we're speaking looky here for your fan of the show you know who he is Christopher walk as well as Joshua Vergara right now at the Samsung event and they're doing various vs. videos for you guys to let you know which one's better here and there they're doing versus against existing phones such as the s3 the note to the DNA nexus for things like that so you guys can see a comparison but for phones that are yet to come out like the HTC One you know there's there's a big bit of a difference between the two I mean the display you're talking about minda both HD displays but the samsung one is a little bit bigger 4.99 and 4.7 that's actually that's enough that you can notice HTC one is a little bit slower 1.7 gigahertz they basically have the same same amount of storage space 32 gig or 64 gig now the s4 you can go 16 gigs you can get one smaller and cheaper same amount of RAM camera is a toss-up obviously because they use different things different marketing terms the ultrapixel you know versus the 13-megapixel i'm sure i haven't seen any renders yet well i'm sure they're the guys that are making the videos right now or taking pictures and doing tests everything to see actually how the 13-megapixel camera pans out the ds4 a little bigger battery then the note has a 2300 I'm sorry then up to note the one yeah HTC One has it 2300 milliamp hour battery um so wireless charging we don't know yet definitely the HTC one does not have it the galaxy s4 was rumored to come within different case to add wireless charging that hasn't been announced yet I don't know if that is coming or not we're gonna have to wait a little bit on that still I guess a little new um now besides that the third they're both fairly thin devices the galaxy s4 is a little bit thinner by a little over a millimeter they're basically about the exact same width and height though just a millimeter here and there but it is a little tikes a little thinner and it's a little bit lighter coming in at 130 grams where the one is 143 grams so it's a little bit lighter now that's cuz plastic is cheap I mean like what plastic is lying exactly an HTC One is a is made out of metal it's a high quality device so so let's without either of us in here holding a galaxy s4 holding an HTC One if you had to choose between the two based on what we know hardware-wise spec wise based on what we know software wise and what initial impressions have been from people that have actually held the devices stock wait no operations what the what did how the device comes out of the box okay which one would you prefer which one do you want which one has you excited HTC HTC why some premium device that I mean from everything I've seen it looks like it's going to be a very premium device I've seen similarly constructed devices from HTC and held them and they have been amongst the highest quality devices I I've held far better than an iphone better than the for which is also a very premium feeling highs whereas the Samsung is plastic or cheap plastic from Samsung like seriously get off the plastic train it's cheap it's it it just makes the device feel cheap right like it just doesn't even feel like it's in the same class you've been hit all those facts are in the same class it just doesn't feel like a premium to ice now John you have a note to right now you're currently on the Samsung train so if you had to get a new device would you go with the Samsung train again or would you jump over to the the one I can't say that I would jump on the s4 and I look at the s4 now and I'm not really jealous of it in any form of facet but I bought my note for a very specific purpose in that I was kind of worried about the DNA as far as developer support and I knew the note 2 would get it and Verizon just doesn't have many attractive options the one thing I would say to the community is that after seeing all these specs in Bullitt where and all these progressions and nothing about TouchWiz is really Giroud or changed this is something the community has to address with Samsung this is when plur would blur got out of hand the community chastised motorola you know extremely when LG got out of hand when samsung get on the hand in the past so if you want this to change by the time that their next phone comes out you need to be vocal about it and you need to not reward samsung for putting them out putting out his garbage yeah that's hard as it is asleep and the hardware is good but you can't you know they're just they're software just isn't good yeah the community has to get active and tell Samsung look something's got to give yeah because if they keep selling millions and millions and millions of devices they're gonna say hey this is working this is working let's add more stuff because that's what sells it and you know and when somebody said if I say I like my note 2 that doesn't mean that I like every software feature that they pack into it I like the device that doesn't mean I love touch with ya in touch with still looks like it did in Gingerbread like it seriously has not changed yeah that is very true it just look identical to what it looked like yeah there's nothing that's changed there's more icons yeah all right so vivid brightness for him down your eyes so know how many how many apps stock and icons it has that would be interesting stock icons yeah i'm gonna go with zero it's todo out of the box how many are there like like how many apps and icons oh I got you I don't have a niche crab is installed on that device when you track compared to like a nexus phone or a you know like that'd be interesting done nexus 10 you know how big that rom is so waiting to welcome Nexus no to wrong stock rom for a mines verizon but still is about nine hundred fifty megabytes versus a you know compiled AOSP rom plus a package of google apps being in the 300 or so range so you're talking three times as much software as comes on ace that's about how this droid DNA as it comes with nine hundred and some meg of Awesomeness alright so so so Scott what am I here in here you uh you on the Samsung ship or the HTC ship oh I've never owned I've never owned like a high quality metal device so i don't know how those feel but uh base metal based off specs i would go with the s4 and wipe it but if we're doing just out of the box without wiping i would go HTC well i have the droid DNA which I know was talking about this earlier with Russell Holly from geek calm and he kind of made fun of me when I said that I already have the HTC One I mean I I I don't I have the droid DNA running a sense 5.0 wrong then it comes exactly with the HTC One so and the screens a little bit bigger and there's a plastic and it's not metal but for all intensive purposes to me if you held the two devices 10 feet away you'd be hey look there's two devices that are exactly the same and very end similar hardware I'm you know internals cameras or cameras going to be different obviously you know there's no ultrapixels in the end the DNA you know but I like HTC devices I it's a well-built phone I mean I hate this film I hate it but it is a well-built foam so my incredible I loved my incredible I would love the HTC One I really would but I don't I can't run a custom UI I'm sorry I can't run skinned Android you know custom ui's I sense TouchWiz I can't do that so i would need something that would be supported and i think that the galaxy s4 would have better support than HTC one just because HTC is hard for developers to to get a 0 SS AOSP to work on so i would choose the galaxy s4 for routing and Rahming customization capabilities uh how about how about you Dan I mean you're a colonel dev do you oh you used to be another life do you agree with that that HTC's will probably be harder to get a custom rom on well they are releasing an unlocked developer edition that supposed to go on sale in the US at the same time as the device goes up for general availability so that might help things I kinda doubt it I mean really the issue isn't so much King the device unlocked it's getting past all of the ridiculous stuff that HTC changes with no reason and I don't see that changing so if you're going to root an enrollment it's all about the advil on some box I don't see you know I don't I just don't see it getting the same kind of support that the Samsung pain is made because I think Samsung makes very crappy devices and I think it just makes very very high quality devices but it's a real pain for a developer for getting the custom robbing and Colonel seen to deal with HTC devices anymore they just keep making it harder so does not so so I'm gonna go with that and I'm gonna say if I Ward get this device or if I were to get new device in the next two months or whenever it comes out I would probably go for the s4 that's if you're into root and rom and that then and that's just me now the one looks like it's going to be a gorgeous device you know it's you know it's cut from metal it's not plastic and I I don't know obviously we have to wait two people to get the review and it's actually android authority should have a review unit coming home tonight I believe they come they leave tonight with them either way we're going to hang we're going to have one soon so we'll be able to get some hands-on Xin full reviews here if you were also also gonna give away oh yeah that's right yeah so if you haven't entered into our international giveaway just go to android authority com it'll be the very first post the top of the page it's a featured post it'll say samsung galaxy s4 international giveaway of awesome there I don't think it actually says it says that this is ! yeah so you go there and you don't have you know you don't have to like us tweet us circle is hula hoop us you know whatever you're not to do anything crazy all you gotta do is leave a comment and in the contest if you want to leave the comment a comment that says derek ross is awesome and scott anderson is not that's cool it doesn't move down vote that comment right away if you want to then by all means go ahead you may or may not at higher you may or may not increase your chances by downvoting every Scot Anderson post I don't know its crew actually now does it doesn't do anything so it does affect it weighs it so anything else about the galaxy s2 you guys are that are watching live right now you have any questions that you want us to answer there's no a lot of comments agreeing with sandhya and so forth but would you like us to you know hone in on something that you on our opinion on here before we wrap up for the evening Andrew darling wants to state that uh he wants us to touch on the fact that Samsung decide to keep the removable battery option uh and that is awesome I do like that that's something that you know that was a kind of a a haha towards other manufacturers you know that are yeah that are going the different route try the other I think they're trying to keep it you know choice and they want to wipe all their software and run a custom wrong then they have choice to do that I think Samsung's gonna run into some problems with that because there's increasing regulations coming up reach the world that are making it less and less okay to have removable batteries in mobile devices so they're gonna have to start probably changing their strategy on that a little bit as those regulations take hold no I did see a comment in question about my cat she is a staple for the show now like honestly if she isn't laying on this chair she's probably dead is your wife mella then then she always got I used to block her out I used to not let her come down here cuz she'd sit here in the chair the whole time but then I started realizing the internet loves cats so I'm just gonna let her do this okay let her come down here every show and lay right there in that chair for those of you listening there's a chair and there's cat is always laying on socializing uh her name is Sahara and that's named after my dog River you know since her did you know so we had to have you know had to do that you know different slippers in the Sahara you had to be that guy didn't you hey that's what I do dogs with my comments alright so anything else dan did we have any awesome patent news this week or any carrier news we're talking about what about that what about that t-mobile week we had about the trade ins i think that's that's pretty interesting so t-mobile has a new trading plan they're going to launch where if you have a device that you you want to trade in their eye she give you a credit for us you you bring your own device into tmobile store or you do a male in a mailer and you can get a credit it obviously depends on the age of the vice what device it is but if you're switching to t-mobile the uncarrier they're now going to give you money for giving them your old device which is cool you know help bring the cost down of of your monthly payments for the first month or so quickly and another comment from Andrew darling basically he was commenting on the 128 gigabyte a size now is there any limit to share NFC files sighs you're not sharing the NFC no no I I understand that but if you're doing over Bluetooth or Wi-Fi direct is there any limit don't believe so I think you're only limited by the capacity oh yeah so NFC or as a beam excused as a front-end to Wi-Fi direct to create the connection and once it's connected I mean it's just a yes Wi-Fi connection I I'd you know what I'm gonna say I don't know if there's a limit I've never heard of it I've also never tried to send a six gig file so the only limit on it would be an artificially imposed one there's no theoretical at all yeah well yeah it's just a tad hoc network that you crave once it's created you can do whatever you want with it send one kilobyte orts and a gajillion megabytes or terabytes or pewter bikes if you wants here that's actually a weekend project dan so everyone's getting homework this week's I if you have two devices uh whether that are these homeworks for you yeah Andrew so a few two devices tablet phones whatever I want you to take your largest legally obtained six gigabyte movie and transfer but some are bad and transfer to where I can't easily obtain something that's gonna loose file format I just want to see see how see if it's even let you do it I've I've only transferred you know pictures you know I've never transferred anything besides there are a couple Meg movie definitely interesting though if you could hit a wall there yeah but I mean who's gonna happen and the thing is the file can't be bigger than 64 gigs because if it is and it's gonna be on two partitions and yeah yeah that no obviously I mean the lives there are reports they aren't transfer protocol based yeah alright so Scott want to wrap things up yeah I so you guys can find us on YouTube you can find us on google+ we get comments during the show from google plus android authority google+ page we read the comments from there as well as youtube you can find all of our posts 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