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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm dare cross and I'm Scott Anderson this week we are joined with Johnathan Franklin Joshua Vergara and Christopher wook thank you guys for joining us glad to have you here as always great to be here all right so this week we are going to talk about some device news or surrounding some rumors such as something Facebook might be doing now we're going to talk about nexus 4 stuff and talk about the HTC one in what what we did to that gorgeous phone here at Android authority we have some carrier news and mainly t-mobile as well as some app updates so let's get started with some device rumors and some device news so no one here first some rumors and speculation are some actual news you know let's start out with actual news so the nexus 4 got a slight new design this week people actually might even been the last week I saw people actually starting to talk about it so nexus 4 started shipping refurbed as well as new ones started showing up to people that had a slight very slight redesign and the redesign was a few nubs or nipples or bumps whatever you wanna call it on the back and that that does actually that does a lot because right now the original Nexus 4 I guess we'll call the og nexus 4 is a completely flat back of smooth glass and if you own a nexus 4 you know that you can't set it on top of something with the slightest degree of an angle where it will slide off or no angle I mean it it's a slippery bastard I'll tell you that right now it it likes the slide um I've set it on top of well when I own the nexus 4 i I've set it on top of things that it should not have slid off of and because it's smooth completely flat it wound up on the floor multiple times thankfully nothing ever happened but it was interesting I used to set it on my laptop and I used to wash it slowly slowly slowly creep off my left up it anyways so those nubs help that with nubs it's not going to slide but also when the nexus 4 is laying completely flat the speakers on the back so if you're trying to you know listen for a text message beep or or some type of notification or even a ring it makes it quieter because you're muffling the speaker so we always you know you can always put it on its face but your eye can see the notification light so it was it yeah exactly so so yeah you're kind of like huh should I fuya which way should I put it you know you flip-flop so now like having an iphone don't don't compare the nexus for tonight okay just say alright so if you if you don't want to do that whole flip-flop what about which way am I supposed to blame my phone well now it's being raised like a millimeter off the off the surface and that you know millimeter two millimeters whatever it is a tiny little bump might be enough to to help you be able to hear the speaker a little bit better and hear your notifications a little bit better so some people are thinking yes these that's an awesome design change than other people were like no you know the original design was beautiful what are you doing you're putting a blemish on the back so what do you guys think about that is it awesome you Nexus 4 owners you know or is it a blemish you wish you had gotten to the people to the people who are complaining I ok how often is someone gonna pick up your phone look at the back like this and just be like this oh this phone looks terrible something like that is that a piece of dirt on their you don't try to the battery laughs like I will say one thing though when I heard that there was a new design for it I thought just how much are they going to change it and then when you think about it there's really not much of a change at all I'm actually interested in how they came to that decision did Ally people complained and you know anything like that or was it just forward thinking on their part that being said the slide is a very this very nice fix I once saw my nexus for sliding various we off the hood of my car once I am too am slow motion and jumped and caught it but yeah that slide is it is a problem every now and then but to the people who are complaining about that tiny little change of the back I mean I think you're nitpicking at that point you know I gets a great design thing that's very useful and you know my phone slides everywhere even if I think it's a flat service and you know I gotta take out my leveler before in order to make sure that it's safe to put it down but it moves a lot and hopefully this fixes it it is definitely off seeing a lot of people that did complain about the slipperiness of the device you know that love it otherwise it's good to see that they make a decision like that even mid device cycle to fix something like that for customers because you don't see that a lot now these little knobs it's still my slide with these little knobs it's not going to be it's not going to be a one you know stop fixing these things are very tiny if it's on an angled surface it's still a slippery device it's still going to slide but this is definitely gonna help now something else they changed it and I don't even know why they changed it besides the fact that they could the backing around the camera lens is now smaller so there's less of a back less glass plastic or whatever surrounding the actual lens the lens itself isn't any smaller it's just a smaller hole that the lens fits in so it's a tighter design I don't know if that has any effect on any type of camera quality or if it's just hey we can change this and it's not going to affect anything for the worst so let's do it you camera guys out there Josh and wookie what do you think of any uh any thoughts on why that was possibly done and more and more cosmetic nitpicking to be honest the glass covering around what is actually just a tiny lens right there it really shouldn't change the look of the pictures or anything like that it really should like you want you're not going to get up and getting around the image just I shouldn't happen so really it's probably just another cosmetic nitpick to be honest you look at small the Lumias of glasses I mean mostly the glass on there is just for aesthetic reasons anyway to make people think that they're getting out of a huge camera the one act like the one acts and then had the exposed glass and stuff like that they're doing it for you know kind of like consumer appeal more than functionality my son's all right so let's let's talk about some rumors and some speculation because who doesn't love love some rumors and speculation from unannounced devices I know I do it makes me wake up in the morning just to see what I can gab about such as things that were posted on Google+ as a complete joke earlier today and someone took that complete joke seriously and tweeted me about it on Twitter and then the person the joke was made about cyanogen told me that that was the furthest thing from the truth apparently what uh Erin Erin and I were doing people people took its ear if it's in a meme chances are the meme is not serious anyways anyways I was getting off on a tangent I've seen some spurious memes all right so if kids if conspiracy keanu reeves is in a meme chances are it's not serious that is true that's true yeah so so earlier today when Erika katzen and I were doing things like all know cyanogen Steve Kondik quit samsung and he uses facebook ah he must be going to work on the facebook phone because that's what Forbes thinks in a Forbes says it it must be true it always says anyway so yeah that that's that's probably the furthest thing from the truth and if you're if you believe the the jokes that Aaron and I put out there yeah all right so so let's make up let's make up some more stuff let's talk about the the Nexus ernum so are the Facebook rumors that are coming out so Facebook has been rumored for a very long time to be making a phone leaves children what's that it's been rumored for like a year or two yeah yeah exactly it's been removed for a very long time and it was rumored to be you know the HTC missed the leaked specs from forever ago or a 1.5 gigahertz dual-core Snapdragon s4 gig of ram a 4.3 inch 720p display yeah and a 5 megapixel camera sensor so it's I mean these specs for me like a year ago that they could change it's a low-end medium rain it's a medium range phone and it's a very affordable phone from the from the looks of these specs cannot be true so we haven't really heard anything from a long time about this and then Facebook puts out a flyer today saying her yesterday saying hey on April fourth come check us out and come see our new home on Android quotes come see our new home on Android so initially people said well Facebook we know they're planning a new app roll out to match their new news feed a new design everything so that's that's what we're looking at and then the wall street journal reports that Facebook was going to do something a little bit more than that they were going to do something where they were going to put Facebook first where the first thing you see on your phone is facebook so readers that's healthy whoa we're reading into that yeah in what the Wall Street Journal says it sounds like it's going to be more than a widget because they already have a widget now it and because they're talking about to come see our new home on Android a lot of people are speculating that it's going to be an Android launcher or something to that effect almost like HTC's blinkfeed because the wall street journal reported that in an HTC device would be the first device to demonstrate this capability so why would Facebook be doing this well this move is designed to increase the amount of time somebody spends on their service on facebook you know they have shareholders oh please they need to make money they need a boost revenue so right now they're not making any money on mobile on mobile ads so they need to do that so I guess my question for you guys in the audience right now as well as everybody else participating in this hangout is do you think that Facebook is going to come out with an Android launcher and Facebook if I you know the the Android experience that way or are they going to go even further and actually fork Android and come out with their own you know fully facebook branded Facebook ified device similar to like what Amazon did with fire line where it's Android but it's completely different than Android you know so do you think of a forked version of Android here guys or we think in a lawn chair not in either one is a huge step for a social network to to say hey we're gonna put a launcher on there and what would be the benefits of having a facebook launcher you know what why would you want to do this well think of hooks in general hooks meaning data hooks you know how much information can they get from you just like you know google has its hooks in Android and you know a lot of stuff that are is in the cloud is on our phones and accessible ideally I think Facebook would want to do a forked version and they could have a lot more hooks that way with the home screen replacement they could definitely drive more traffic and it would be more in your face but I think it might be a baby step home screen launcher uh at first that's my thought I don't know what was what do you think John well I mean it's feasible that they do this um it's kind of interesting at this point in time comes to our new home on Android because their application is still terrible that if they think that they can get into the home screen launcher business or that they can get into the hardware and providing software for a piece of hardware business is poorly they write code for Android already I mean they're the company that had to patch up dalvik because they were calling so many methods that nobody else had even ran into this problem but accept them and you know what let's say zactly issues they were running into because this is something they were working on you know well this is just for their application this is for gingerbread house for gingerbread me and you're talking about you know they just do such a poor job on Android development they this is effort they could have invested in fixing their application but this also makes you wonder if they had you know a different project going on the side the whole time so yeah it'll be interesting i don't think i don't think facebook realizes that his users don't care about them as much as they think they do you know most people i know that use facebook don't really love facebook they just you know they use it the ones that do use it heavily or usually playing games that aren't really accessible on a mobile device anyway so it'll be interesting to see how it pans out so so let's let's uh let's explore the option that facebook keeps a standalone app where it's the app and that's all that it is maybe it's a new version of what they have now and then they come out with the facebook launcher so it that you have a choice or they could just make the facebook it is the launcher if you want facebook this is what you're getting they could literally force this change on you so that's going to draw people away except for teenage girls i mean we're all sitting here thinking of our own kind of way of looking at it but if you think about a completely different portion of the market who doesn't really care what android is at all facebook launchers might actually make sense for them it makes me kind of shiver but that could be something that you know people would be interested in anybody ever think about it could be an app store well let's play on that scott so let's say they do come up with their own their own launcher or even their own Fork of Angela either one would be okay too for this explanation here so you want to see your newsfeed well your new you know you want to see your your news well your news is your news feed you don't need to open up a third party app because people will share news headlines for that you need to read people will like stories that you want to read as well your friends you know shower updates and bathroom updates you know those type of things will come in um you know in pictures and everything so you have that right in your home screen now facebook already allows for an instant upload but let's say it's a special camera app you know it's Instagram or their own camera app like they had pushed out you know before so we need specifically for taking pictures of yourself and crops privately for car photos food so it has filters built into it you know or maybe it is just it maybe it's Instagram maybe that's the new facebook camera but you know whatever they're going to do it's a some type of specific facebook camera that automatically has the instant upload which you can already do but with this new launcher its integrated in you can't escape it if you use this new launcher or this new fork of android you know it's it's turned on by default you probably turn it off but so they have the camera functionality the instant upload functionality newsfeed functionality i would say wait well we need an app store well facebook has kind of a mobile app store now lets me i hate to call it that because it's not really an app store but let's expand upon that lets say that let's say that if they if they were to push out a launcher it could be like chameleons it could be an html5 launcher which means there are apps that they have on their app store more apps would work right okay so okay so so now we have our own apps wave run an app store we have camera upload well email Facebook has email there's your email apps and there's your own ecosystem right now now we're getting somewhere facebook also allows you to do document sharing now it's it's a new feature well it new relatively when the past so many months i don't know what exactly came out because i don't use facebook but i do know you can do document sharing there's your drive type app and they're not really but you know these things could really go somewhere and turn into almost like what Amazon is doing you know I I'm saying things that could happen these are all speculations who knows I could be completely wrong but I could see these things turning into something you guys think I'm completely off my rocker here no not really i mean the the idea of a facebook phone like like like what key said it did it's a very jarring i really don't think that'd be a very good device to have in any stretch of the imagination but to have a launcher of some show of some sort or to have some sort of take something on the software front i think would work out even much better for them it's something that i thought who booed to should have done instead of making a whole new phone just release a launcher because it's very elegant it looks very nice but to have a whole device built around just that one thing might be a little weird I feel the same way about Facebook let me think about it from a business perspective they're trying to get more relevant data for users and serve them more relevant things so they're trying to do what Google does but kind of push them out of the way if they use Facebook I mean I right now their shareholders they need money they need to make a lot of money in order for their stock to go up so right now they're just trying to get hooks and then serve you stuff that's an interesting thing just something real quick as the Amazon got into it you know as a little kind of a loss leader to lead their services there's nothing saying that I mean really Facebook's only chance at getting a lot of people to adopt it is to get you know tie into the advertising side there's nothing saying they couldn't subsidize the OEM kind of like Google does with the Nexus program has sell the device dirty in exchange for the fact that they're going to basically force users to generate traffic to their website for a drip and you so you know if they force it on people rather than people that just aren't clicking on their ads now they could generate revenue to the point to drive you know a phone to be much cheaper than the same you know level of hardware for you know one device without Facebook's software yeah well the part that is interesting to me is it it's pretty obvious from the tagline that was put out that they're putting their eggs and androids basket I'm very if whatever this is it's obvious that it's going to be based upon Android how polarizing is that going to be for users of other platforms and I'm really interested to see what the blowback would be on that for say iphone users Windows Phone users who say you know oh you're you have this whole new thing for Android wear where's our love stuff like that I can see that yeah now while we have a we have a question related to the subject Zach young wants to know about the rumor that Andy Rubin going to facebook um I I'm gonna say no and I'm gonna leave it a dad that Android is his baby yes he's no longer you know heading Android yes he is an entrepreneur to start up and could go to Facebook and help them launch a new device heat but that doesn't make sense because Larry Page in his address said Andy Rubin was going to start his next chapter at Google he didn't say start his next chapter doc doc daughter next chapter in his life he said next chapter at Google so I'm pretty sure Andy Rubens going to project x.x labs whatever you want to call it where they do have a product coming out that needs to be fostered from the ground up you know I I I can't see this happening in a million years now this silicon valley yes anything can happen but it's not gonna happen I will eat this Android beanie if Andy Rubin goes to work for facebook this Android beanie I will cook whatever ever or in like the next week ever okay okay fair i will eat this android BTW i will dip it oh well what's good with cotton like ketchup and solder where's blowing his Twitter's blowing up right now he's right yo Andy if you go roll work for facebook just random guy and that's gonna eat is packed but you need to do it um could he go there for consoling I nobody will know I i I'm saying if it happens I'm gonna eat this thing I'm eating it if it happens I do not read here first yeah you heard it here first um okay so let's uh let's move on and talk about some app updates here break up the devices before we get into team Wookiee in vergara alright so on google+ got up updated the mobile app you can one big thing that is nice is when you upload a picture from mobile it doesn't like have the gray thing so it's like immediately uploaded it's not that lag g has ever experienced yeah did we experience the lagger do we experience the new way no like you're hotter your leg let's say i uploaded a picture and then it'd be great and nobody would know what it is I'd ask a question it would be funny hours and then they finally pop all these that bug is fixed thank goodness um it's basically got a kind of a new overlay the comments constantly change and you get to see different comments how do you guys like that feature is it I mean it's more than your face there's more going around i guess like the comment was cool but it's not really useful if you have a thread as like a 130 comments and it really it's cool in the beginning when there's only a few a few comments you know i like that yeah it wanders when you're getting 100 comments or so it's making me who cares but it's still nice feature my biggest complaint about the new version if i had to complain was the plus one in comments his reversed that hate that hates my thumb or my thumb hates that I you know now I have to move my thumb an extra inch just to be +1 everything I hate it you gotta you gotta work for like I do I gotta you gotta work for that plus one now uh then the gmail app got the pulldown notification with the archive or reply that's nice yeah oh joy yes that's very handy I don't know why that wasn't there before but you know it's google sound surge got updated I don't know what got updated in this I'll tell you what definitely got updated people in the UK can actually do a sound search now because the the changelog is where what's new is first place for a release so it haven't changed that well my buddy Lee Jarrett from google plus daily actually took some screenshots he's over there across the pond in the UK and he took some screenshots whereas before you weren't able to do a sound search in the UK and now he can so maybe that was the the biggest update just adding support for different regions different countries I play movies got updated this is a pretty interesting update but when you're watching a movie you can pause it and check the actor that's in there so they're using facial recognition I think to check the actor and give specs about it that's pretty neat have you guys used that specs on the actor yeah like while you're watching a movie and then just pause it on an actor it's pretty cool haven't gotten to try yeah but it looks really nice it works well I want to zoom in on an extra and see if I can get views on the next trip oh yeah um also chrome beta like it does every week got updated again chrome beta is getting to be a viable option for a browser replacement I deleted chrome the day that Chrome Beta came out I don't have yeah I don't have chrome on my device I just use chrome beta it's getting a lot better a lot faster well normally I push people to get stable channels but in this case the stable was so bad that it's just worse worth getting debated to stay up to date yeah I like their the rollout timing you know it's constant which is really nice um Tasker got a holo makeover which is nice and it's also on sale for 199 which is good cuz that's normally a six dollar fifty said Apple I believe it's a 649 or maybe maybe even 699 but it either way it's it's a heck of a discount I guess seventy percent off so yeah so so task you're a lot to automate a lot of things on your phone but um if you if you're constantly turning off Wi-Fi GPS Bluetooth it can do a lot more than that but that people use it a lot for those type of things be you can have it set up to do something silly like whenever you connect to your home Wi-Fi network if it to automatically turn on your google TV and put it on your news channel or something like that you can do a lot of neat automation with it yeah real quick I heard uh I just remembered and I thought about there's a story that i saw on reddit of somebody using Tasker on his android phone to send a text to his wife when he was at work like I showed the location-based inside of the phone if he was still at work after a certain time he texts his wife that he was going to be late yeah I actually I actually do something similar with NFC task launcher well I do it once every maybe two weeks because I forget to do it every day but I have an NFC tag of work set to it set up all my preferences at work I tap the tag when I get there and it you know turns off things and turns on things one of the actions is to send my wife a text message saying hey honey I made it to work and then when I tap it at the end of the day it turns everything on or off depending on what it needs and then it sends an additional text message saying hey honey I'll even work but yeah I only do that once every two weeks yeah I don't remember to do it too often and then action lock launcher I believe Jonathan you use this action launcher basically got updated with a new feature called shudders shudders is awesome basically you can ass wipe an icon in a folder or out of a folder and bring up the widget of that icon well pretty cool stuff it's very accessible it makes it a lot easier to use Jonathan have you use this yet yeah it's it's pretty awesome because you can have your home screen set up like normal like if you have your browser icon and you'll have to have a ever gigantic widget taking up real estate where if you like with chrome you just swipe up on the icon it brings up your big bookmarks widget and you can find yourself a book more real quick without having to take up an extra screen for that's all I haven't tried it sounds neat tell me should give it is it free or you gonna pay for data but I so I can't ride for a few minutes before I can request a refund Oh Connie very cool another app that got updated if you're a google TV fan I'm going to say that the drawing a blank here Oh prime time primetime got updated this week so if your google TV user you know what prime time is it's the app guide tells you what shows are playing I and based on different genres and so forth it got updated to now include amazon prime content before it didn't list so if I'm let's say watching uh I don't know i'm watching law and order and I hit the guide and psycho hey look you can buy law and order season five on Amazon or something like that so it allows you to see Amazon content as well as you could you know other content that you could previously see such as your Netflix um which is nice it ties into then the version 3 of Google TV which will allow you to launch the Amazon crime app the official app as well as another google TV update is a flex pass plucks pass actually gets an update almost every week though so it's really not that big a news it it's a new version of plex a really awesome redone version of plex and if it got updated this week so we have a spin I'm not gonna kick him out of the room this this is this is the android fan and trading here this is my son joining us for the very first pokémon address Doherty he he wanted to come down and say hi he has an android tablet and Logan what's your favorite game to play if 14 pics of 14px that game from reddit he loves to play that game good night buddy I love you well they did say hi all right so 14 pics is a great game for kids basement so that I don't remember the developer 14px on how you say but yeah my son loves that game I played it with a mall Tommy he's a he's a big Android gamer I'll tell you that right now he games on Android more than I I mean he's only 3 years old I saw you guys was saying flex pass got updated and it's a nice update a lot of bug fixes in a few additional features so if you are a plex guy should definitely check that out so Scott Meah Meah other app updates that are worth mentioning my no soundcloud got an update apparently it does uh tablet UI is better I guess but anything else in the on the upper it's actually we should talk about soundcloud since we are all in soundcloud you know soundcloud.com / android authority you might be listening to us right now on soundcloud we had a couple of thousand the downloads it i think a week on there anyways so beyond app updates and my son interrupting the show sorry about that everybody but a good dad not gonna kick him out of the room without giving the telling him goodnight give him a kiss um let's talk about the HTC one hour our buddy chris wook wookie a few weeks ago was at the HTC one event you covered the event there and got to play around with HTC One and do a bunch of reviews his official review when op as we received a unit to do review with recently and then and he sent it to Josh for Josh to do some interesting stuff with so let's talk about talk about the HTC one here walkie oh you know to tell us you know what you liked about anything he didn't like anybody out there that's you know looking to purchase the HTC One this guy here he's played with it he's you know put it through the the tests he's will collide it if you will so let us know uh let's know your take on it um the very first thing actually that really impressed me was boomsound surprisingly enough um it's I'm gonna say this right away it's not for audiophiles beats audio isn't for audio files but what they did with those speakers sounds huge I was really really impressed they made a big deal out of it at the event in New York but you know and something that crowded with all the music and parkour going on you can't really you can't really tell what these little speakers sound like but when I first started playing stuff on there i was amazed at the sound coming out of this little fun it's seriously the the biggest sounding phone I've ever heard I mean this maker bizarre-looking let me pause you for a second you remember when we're at sea as we play with the the pantech discover discovery yes hey do but I call it the right name right now so remember that was a loud sounding phone do you remember no I do want you that too is it is the one louder than the Pantex film yeah it's both louder and bigger sander I don't know what they did but it really sounds huge sorry I remember that the discover sounded loud I mean we could hear it in the noisy CES hall it was so that's impressive that they're they're blowing that away I think they actually made the Chamber's bigger for the speaker's themselves yeah you can actually go lower without straining yeah the low end is surprisingly Bumi you're not going to listen to music with it and here you know great highs and great lows you're never going to do that with speaker that low I mean speaker that small but for watching movies and things like that it's really pretty cool I will tell you that if they have do if any manufacturer makes a speaker that good that's the fact i'm gonna get that phone on the first day what so what are they whoa wiki what do you think of the actual you know camera and build quality of the phone okay the build quality is great um well we'll get to Josh on that little bit but uh I mean just the way the phone feels and everything it was really probably the best feeling HTC phone i've ever used as you guys know i'm a DNA honor and they just it seems like HTC keeps tweaking the sizes on these devices until it gets just about perfect and that's what the HTC one is and i know it sounds like i'm gushing here but it really was except for the power button really nice to hold news everything felt in the right place except for that power button not only is it still on top it's over on the left so and if you're left-handed it might be cool but for a right-handed person it's really hard to get to that at all yeah on that tub just just showing you a quick alright so you mentioned your DNA owner I'm a DNA owner there is a a rumor and there's FCC documents yada yada yada that this thing might be coming to verizon so let's just say that it does come to verizon for this argument sake would you switch if contracts weren't an option you know you know didn't matter and spending money didn't matter would you switch from the DNA to the one absolutely absolutely what would what was your what main reason for for saying that the main reason is why well first it's faster um second i like to feel and I like the aluminum better I like the display I can't say is really any better but just being that it's a little bit smaller it's a little bit sharper and now that the DNA is display isn't sharp already it's going to have to have higher ppi because it's crazy it's like 468 PPI I think so that's pretty impressive uh the camera gets a lot of height and I thought it was good it was especially good in low light but besides that I really didn't think it was that better than the DNA's camera I mean I can I took photo and I wasn't I thought later on I might end up being doing of verses which I don't think is going to happen but I did take photos and prepare between the DNA and the HTC One and really in a lot of the photos there wasn't that much of a noticeable difference unless you moved into low light in low light the ones camera was much better okay the only problem is the megapixel camera if you're watching right now live on your youtube or on Google+ and you have any questions for wookie on the HTC One and what he thought what his thoughts were on any of the features feel free to drop a comment in he'll be glad to to answer that for you so we we liked the HTC want an android authority we liked it so much that we decided to to destroy it and we did we did drop test on it well more so josh did so i'm gonna pass the floor over to him and he's going to tell us all about how he destroyed this beautiful device but at the same time he also destroyed another device and which one held up better if there was a winner and he'll tell you all about it I already talked to will keep the other night the other day and I just profusely apologized for the treatment that I gave is new favorite phone but yeah we decided to do a drop test on the HTC One primarily because of that aluminum backing the new type of body that it has which is quite similar to the iphone 5 in that it has an aluminum backing with the glass on the front went out to the heart of LA went to the Mulholland Drive Hollywood sign stop so I can get a little bit of a nice a nice scenery in the background for the most part the ok I'm going to respond to some people right now who have been commenting on the YouTube page nothing about the drop test was deliberate in one way or the other in terms of if I have favoritism in one side or not on the other because it really was just incredible bad luck that when I dropped literally from my pocket the iphone in the first test it went like this I dropped it and it just started to drift like that I mean you know them and drop tesar that's this is what happens they're subjective not unless you're a machine and you're sitting there dropping in the exact same way mm-hmm I mean these are real world drops you know you new pool phone out of your pocket and you accidentally drop it you don't drop it the same way every time exactly it could go any which way but these are real world scenarios you did make the effort to actually drop the one on its face to show what it does do if it does drop on its face something yeah extremely bias you could have said well it doesn't happen in regular well HTC oneone huh and then walk away but hit the yeah by the end of it we did notice that the HTC One didn't have any problems on the screen whatsoever that we knew it was because it never fell on its face so he decided okay let's just drop it on space I went even higher up to make sure that the impact was good and sure enough the end result was this it's almost like art right there you have that lattice Hitler Hitler in the middle of all those cracks um but it was it held up really well and to me I would definitely say that the HTC One gets a lot of points for its new design because it held up very well but at the same time could say the same for the iphone 5 um of course I wouldn't I personally want to pick a winner between the two because they're just that darn similar and in the test that I did aside from this poor little speaker grill that popped off of the HTC One it held up just as well as the iphone did and you could say the other way around the iphone held up just as well as HTC one day I got to tell you that my favorite part of the entire day when we were doing that was it's a highly tourist heavy spot so people kept coming in waves from tour buses and stuff like that I had an audience for like half the test yeah I was actually there my wife and I were when we were out in LA back in December we went that exact spot on the 21 and tour bus so I when I saw you doing that well how's our nobody there like there is tons of people there we were there and then as the video and on you saw more people around did you have you have to tell people yes I'm destroying sep 15 hundred dollars worth of equipment for the fun of it like where people will believe it was really funny because we had we had that we have that one little area where you could see the sign and whenever we saw people coming up those stairs luckily I had my parents there to sort of giving a hand we just like picked up all the equipment moved away but I left the phones on that little platform in the middle just in plain sight just to see what people would say there's like a circular thing in the mid I met isn't metal or something I got ya I left the phones on there completely destroyed and I should have I probably should have recorded some of the reactions but people came up and I asked out a big good be footed drink there yeah love but the cameras were like all facing the other way because we were just worried about doing the test yeah they came up and they said um are you comparing the iphone to enjoy it and peep you know the whole thing of people don't know it's an android phone get another HTC one what about the galaxy is like did you drop the galaxy like yeah we did that already stuff like that did hey check back in a month or so we might be dropping the new galaxy exactly what people did tell me though yes HTC I was we were slightly corrected in the video by a comments or that HTC has used aluminum in the past in their phones that being said though in the mainstream market for people who wouldn't know that already like general users this is going to be a big deal because it's to them the first aluminum android phone and there are a lot of really good reactions for it it deserved all that Briana all those reactions everyone came up to and said I would buy this one in a heartbeat so they are very from what I saw a very small sample size people were very excited about the HTC One that's what I think people need this you know they need this sarjana they need this type of publicity because not a lot of people know about the one they just they don't have the marketing budget that Samsung does yeah if there was one bullet point that I would push from HTC's perspective cuz I see a lot of their ads pushing things like you know blinkfeed and boom sound those are nice but the really the device is beautiful enough and striking enough that that needs to be the thing that they really push on marketing with their limited resources is it looks much better than the s4 don's it I can't think of too many people that would deny that mm-hmm absolutely and based based upon the reactions that people had their it's true and the fact that they're not advertising that more I mean they make sure do you know the features that they come out with a cool but I mean they're not that compelling other than the amended device is just beautiful yeah if Samsung is going to push so much software in their release or their announcement whatever you want to call it of the s4 HTC should go with their strong suit and ever since I could remember HTC has always had some of the best build quality yeah okay let's talk about one more thing to device news here before we move on if you have any questions about the dropped a store the HTC One anything you know that Wookiee might more information a question about a feature so forth or anything about you know the mechanics of the drop test you know what what Josh had to do or anything just so feel free to you know say something the comments uh you know you even flame home you know II don't care oh so anyways why you leaving a comment or two here I just wanna dance Alton a staple of the show wasn't able to make it tonight he's he's watching the some I think he's watching about what basketball right now um anyways I wanted to have a little bit of Dan whiny time for him he was a last night we had to postpone the show due to myself and Scott actually not being able to make it but Dan was going to bring this up there was people now that LTE is rolling out on t-mobile there are people talking about getting LTE to work on tmobile and ranting and raving about how easy it is to do and then they do it and then they're saying all it's not as fast as other people you know well gotta remember that this thing doesn't it the nexus 4 doesn't have a power amplifier in it so it's going to use more battery power and it's going to be a little bit slower than what somebody else is getting you're gonna get great out LTE speeds if you do this yes your is it awesome that you're doing something you shouldn't be doing sure but you know it's it's uh complaining that the speeds aren't the same as what somebody else is getting well you know on a like a note to that is you know made for that network and actually has all the components to have a fully working LTE then yeah I mean yeah you really shouldn't complain no you're complaining about something you got working on a network that the Vice shouldn't be working on so I think people thought it was normal speed ranges until they thought saw that note to wear when you launch a new LTE market the speeds are always like 50 mega pics so is is 25 megabit down fast yes it's fast but that but the note 2 is getting 50 you're still getting 25 that's still fast your battery's getting sucked like no other you know go back to hspa+ because it's not really that much faster than what you were getting right maybe a little bit but anyways so yeah that brings us onto tmobile with some carrier news Scott is going to talk about how they are no longer a carrier right there the uncarrier yeah so t-mobile kind of you know we kind of knew it was coming there's a lot of leaked stuff about it but basically they're doing away with the carrier relationship type thing you know how you have to have a relationship of the carrier for a long time because of contracts and t-mobile basically wants to eliminate that and they want you to have non contract and non-contractual amounts of timely that you're with them so they're gonna go month the month I think you guys think about doing the month to month as opposed to the relationship as like a two year well I think their CEO put it best when he said contracts are customers love smartphones customers hate contracts he's right i mean III don't really know how to say it any other way I I fully agree with that I don't think there's anything that you could say about a contract that is a consumer move is an anti consumer move that's designed to lock you in it's nothing average user the contracts benefit I think it was it is an old business model that worked perfectly with dumb phones because dumb phones were not changing at the rate of smartphones and therefore people didn't care as much on what phone they had because they the phones they couldn't there was no tears to him you know they could you could do the same stuff with every phone so right now with the changing you know technology and how fast it's changing people want to get a new device when something new comes out and you can't do that on to your contract yes you can get a highly subsidized phone and we'll talk about that but it's just different remember Scott this is new to America um we aren't the rest of the world this is basically a standard practice in many parts of the world especially in Europe that when we talk about contracts and getting into a binding agreement basically every European country laughs at us and say so that this this is now Europe and price of markets in Asia as well basically saying oh you mean you didn't have this option before so I think it's great now t-mobile's footprint isn't as big as let's say verizon so it'll be much better received when they're everywhere the rain I mean they're looking to cover 200 million Americans by the end of this year with LTE and that's because most Americans you know live in an urban area unless you're Derek Ross and you live in the middle nowhere and you'll never get the or Johnathan Franklin you know one that on that or aur woh kiya cable TV right now only two of you live in urban areas three of us still anyways so yeah is it awesome yeah so anyways Scott let's talk about some of these plans and changes here okay so we had verizon AT&T sprint t-mobile so if an individual were to get the get a plan I will just be aware that sprint is unlimited and t-mobile's eluded AT&T is limited and verizon's limited so t-mobile for an individual will be two 2259 dollars over the course of one year right yeah and for sprint two thousand eight hundred dollars eighteen thousand eight hundred dollars verizon two thousand six hundred dollars so for an individual it makes sense for somebody to go to tmobile for two people yeah four thousand at verizon 4018 t five and a half thousand for sprint and four thousand for tmobile five and a half wow that's right how is sprint that far off just wakers but just way there's more to come so wait there's more the way so a family of four verizon is 6118 t is 6300 t-mobile is 6600 and sprint is ten thousand six hundred so what you're saying is if you're married and have two kids do not go to sprint do not Jesus that is insane it is ridiculous how much that is now a lot of people go to sprint because you know they were truly unlimited well t-mobile is now truly unlimited or you can get to a you know full 4g there either hspa+ or LTE 74 70 bucks yeah for unlimited everything yeah I'm Thomas I'm kind of surprised after you know cuz so many people like verizon's just so expensive soaked and Verizon came in pretty good compared to its print granted that's a 2 gigabyte tier plan but really most people are going for that bottom plan on any of them anyways yeah I was really surprised by the verizon prices her to the other carriers and as well as sprint I didn't know sprint was that expensive which so crazy now now you know comparing prices what about that boot loader do we have any stats on boot loaders being locked and unlocked on carriers don't think that was my attempt to the bad joke innocence verizon locks every boot loader that was a bad joke pretended and see what would that out you're not that funny you know horizon cuz a couple of months ago out you know when they interviewed their CEO and he said that he actually called t-mobile's planned in subsidies a great thing before he actually saw what these plans were going to be I wonder what their response to it is gonna be because i'll see you guys gonna be higher i bet yeah I don't think of verizon CEO is gonna say this is a great idea without seeing dollar signs in it so I think verizon's thing would be more like oh well we're gonna keep the crappy plans we're just not going to subsidize phones anymore well I think that there okay so t-mobile's not really one of the big guys so we in order for verizon AT&T or sprint to change more so verizon AT&T i think another big guy has to join the fun and see that another carrier is doing it so then they can go oh crap you know they're doing it why not we're doing it but t-mobile not so much i mean if they learn over the course of time how much they bleed then they'll start to get smarter but as of right now i think it's going to stay the same for a while yeah you guys think if t-mobile and Sprint both adopted these play yeah it might be enough to come up with a little bit of pressure on the pricing structure but yeah at least they change their private plans a little bit maybe offer more data Bob yeah sprint screen is at least showing themselves willing to work a little bit more for consumers but they kind of sold their soul to get LTE network right now too so yeah so if you're single t-mobile if you have a family don't go sprint actually go verizon yes and you know it also ball boils down to where you live that in the country and what coverage you have in your country if we could all go to customer or if customers could go to whichever network they wanted to based on price alone that would be something but that's not the case we we have to go by who has coverage in your area because your device is only as good as the network that it's on if you're going on if you're found out his phone probably mixes on 2g I have a perfect advocate for this I wanted to go to a different network I wanted to go to a different carrier I bought a nexus for the day it came out and used it for two weeks on another carrier I used it on edge 2g because that is all that is here but right now my DNA rocks LTE so that's the kind of thing that I have to deal with here it's beyond the carrier I want and not have service or beyond the carrier I don't want and have LTE everywhere and that's really what I deal with a lot of people are that way to you your device is only as good as your network so hopefully hopefully t-mobile continues to shake things up in the mobile market and hopefully they continue to expand their footprint metropcs you know will help grow their network they're planning on you know always planning on growing their network there I think of them as a you know an urban carrier I don't know I think of them as a rural carrier but you know that that may change in the future who knows okay so uh awesome let's do a little bit of wrap up yeah let's wrap this up Scott for those of you watching on youtube if you want to subscribe we got a playlist on the bottom of our channel oh it's cool point to it like although all the cool kids do they point it's like it's like down here here no people do yeah um if you want to go to a odd 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