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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross and I am Scott Anderson I'm Dan Charleston I'm Johnathan Franklin this week on android authority on air we're going to announce last week's contest winner we're going to talk about some apps like the Google Play Store Babel we'll keep some devices some rude and ramen news which we haven't hit in a long time got some carrier information they're continuing to LTE all the things and we've got some some patents Microsoft and Oracle on nokia they're hating on google and we don't like it so ice let's get started let's let's talk about this contest so so last week I was sick I wasn't around for the content as you guys gave away a nexus for charging orb right yeah okay how'd that go i had good response i saw there's like a couple hundred calm i threw three and four hundred comments or something on the post and then the jumper 300 or 350 entries so a lot of people entered only one convened obviously well i have that winner and that is patrick Tremblay Patrick we are going to be in contact with you if not already and just give us your shipping information and we will ship out the charging orb to you congratulations once again look for a message on google plus we'll get your information that way so i think you picked unique did you actually recommends not i entered i put the hashtag is there a general grilled us out isn't it a general rule of thumb you know that family of employees and yeah elves can't win well you know what joshua said it was international i thought that included me apparently not apparently didn't that's okay he did d duplicate it and i'm pretty sure yeah he's stripped away people like us well Patrick is an international winter actually he's from Canada well there you go alright so congrats again Patrick all right so uh so Scott let's uh let's talk about the google play store pre-show Scott and I were talking and I was saying I loved the new update and I like it because it's a completely revamped UI a holo light if that doesn't look like anything like the older ones using like Google now style cards it's much more minimalistic much cleaner content is actually easier to find you know and there's featured cards with content on what large cards it things aren't hidden it's much easier to find what you're looking for you know not that I thought the old Play Store was that bad but using the new version I think wow it really was that bad so besides you know on major UI changes uh the icons now match the website so if you go to play it out google.com on the web those icons and category names are now mimicked on the android app so it makes things more seamless and we added more simpler to find the checkout process is easier when you're going to order a movie and one thing i like is on the old Play Store you could put a pin on there so if anybody gets your phone you know you lose with friends family kids kids trust me he got to put this on a few kids and I'll go buy apps all the time well on the old Play Store you put a pin on there and you had to put the pin in to buy a nap right well if somebody went into the manage applications and went to google play store and had clear settings you know clear the cache clear data would clear the pin so now there's no pins now you're free to go to buy stuff right that's kind of a false sense of security well now that's been changed thankfully and its password restriction based upon your google account so you can set it up to enter your Google account password every time you go to buy something and it's synced to the cloud so if somebody goes in and clear zap date it's not going to screw you over it's nice I like it works out well so on I love it yeah obviously I'm talking good stuff here so you know a fan what what's up buddy uh okay it is a brand new UI and it is really really nice to my eyes it is more Google now e it does not flow like Google+ does like the Google+ cards on the mobile that'd be kind of cool might be a little bit too much though but basically I don't think it shows as much as the old Play Store did I think that the the bezel basically between the cards is too much for a phone now on a tablet if you ever to use the new UI on a tablet like the Nexus 7 it is beautiful and it works it's great but I the condensed size not so much that's my two cents then John you had a comment yeah um I agree it it could be smoother it looks a lot nicer I do feel like the old Play Store was trying a little bit too hard to be kind of like Windows Phone 7 in the whole tile featured thing another thing that irks me it's not so much related to this update but it's something they need to fix with mobile play is like when you have curated at lists a recommended at list and you go to like reading two point oh I think was the one this week they're still pushing like crappy iOS ports and they're like who Rose who runs through these lists like engadget is a recommended out where the verge is non-existent on there and the bird is a great app and the engadget phone app is trash so who's you know they kind of need to not necessarily punish developers that don't accommodate you know good UI design principles but they definitely don't need to reward them for a mediocre effort in my opinion personally I think you need to stop I mean it curates people from your google plus so I think you need to stop circling people that are downloading the engadget at no I'm not talking about the the personalized results i'm talking about the ones that put up for like these are reading apps that you can try that they you know tavaris Ford puts the list together and apps like engadget or on there and the engadget app is terror yeah it is gray bad i think google just knows that you're circling people that love that app I understand though I think that maybe some some rains need to be tightened yeah i mean i think the the sort of DUI direction that they're going is nice and it's not terribly surprising that their kind of car doing all the things given methias four days background of carting all the things in webos so it's not really big surprise that that's where androids going with him on board but it looks good just like i did in webos so I I think it's a welcome change yeah I really like the fact they kind of all you I colors you know it's really distinct that you were looking at books or you were looking at movies or you were looking at apps I mean you just kind of know because the whole bar and everything is just a different color which that's nice yeah it makes it very easy so all we need now is for google play music to get updated off the honeycomb Tron theme and we'll be okay astronomy could use an update to that's true too maybe maybe that's uh that's coming with the next version android maybe that's coming at i/o here next month if they wait till I oh I'm gonna be upset you guys release all the things right now because the candy got this week wasn't good enough just leave all the things alright so let's talk about something that might be released at i/o or we're in the our colleague nate nate swanner he thinks that it's gonna be released uh before I oh and you know what it could be let's let's talk about Babel for a second um Emily babel babel babel boo boo whatever let's just talk about unified messaging I don't care what you call it well no no no the name there's a lot to a name it's not it's like me Babel yeah they're not gonna call maple you think at this an internal code name yeah so oh no I think it very well could be Babel it could be Babel and it could be spelled that way but Babel think anybody would pronounce it Abel I think babe oils inside joke probably either way what besides how it's spelled and once it's called talk about some leaks um some confirmation that we definitely I mean if there's any doubt in your mind that it's not coming um some users this week reported deleting their chat logs in gmail and when they did it said hey the conversations been deleted however because one or more conversations as part of Babel chat some parts of the conversation may be available on other devices meaning that you may have believed the conversation from gmail but since Babel was rumored to sync everything that means that somebody can pull up the conversation on their device even though you delete it from gmail and that's basically what it was saying so that showed up for a few users meaning that it's coming and they reference you know Babel so it's definitely definitely real I & goo goo groups has also been hemorrhaging bug reports about Babel where someone was talking about another app in chrome and they said well I'm not running the Babel chat app or this has nothing nothing to do with Babel in things like that and you know just seeing developers talking about it in google groups you know and the developer chat means it it's definitely coming so some more reassurance some more leaks now let's get into some actual feature leaks Babel is rumored leaked just that it will sync across all devices like like I said it's going to be on iOS it's going to be on Chrome gonna be on Android your notifications are going to be synced which means no more redundant notifications which kind of happens now with google talk and messenger once you read a notification from say your tablet it'll be gone from your desktop browser Chrome or it'll be gone from your phone you know you won't need to go to all of your device isn't swipe away all your notifications yeah so they're gonna be synced which it was great um supposedly there's going to be a desktop app which means it's going to be browser independent I don't know how that you know works with the rumor of it working with chrome as well but obviously it's going to happen to if it's gonna work with chrome alas so we'll see where that girls yeah sorry uh yeah it could just be you know a chrome app packaged as a standalone application right like you can get a computer to run html5 and other web stuff locally just yeah what up into an application and serve it well I mean that's what they're doing yeah with the notification thing yeah in the dev channel I mean they're doing it right now and they could just unveil it in front of us I mean they're just kind of getting ready I guess but the fact is is that it's browser independent in the leak meaning that that means it's like it's a native windows app is what I'm thinking it sounds like oh and also I mean I could I believe it still works if I exit out of my Chrome browser I don't know if that's true though it well then the chrome process will get tactical here for a second so if I close down chrome those are there's a chrome process running in my background for it a background task running actually for the google talk chat so the chrome doesn't actually fully closed it just keeps process open for a background app so why wouldn't it just do that because would be it would act like a standalone basically because it says because the leak says browser independent meaning day yeah Adam browser installer the point is though the service that chrome is running in the background could be duplicated as a standalone item it could be that's the only case you need to break out so make to make what would otherwise run as part of chrome or in chrome as browser run independently is just one little sliver to break out as a standalone yeah well we never got map really a little sliver of a feature to you know I mean who really cares if it's independent or not independent Lin yeah more more focus on the actual features of the app itself so right now it's only going to support talk hangouts in messenger will be unified but there is a ray of hope for those of you that were hoping for google voice integration the the league said that voice will eventually be merged as well but there's no timeline so that could be you know a year from now who knows John you had a comment just uh the root of them putting this together really is their meebo acquisition too so if they put out a dentist top independent app there's nothing saying they couldn't put a kind of a all-in-one chat out that does jabber xmpp and you know a lot of other protocols to try to give somebody a true all-in-one solution even if they're using yahoo i am or whatever just give them a quality yeah and that's a good point it could be just like meebo was it could be when they say you know it a desktop app that's browser independent that means it that could mean it's just a website you go to and it's a it's a web app which would be browser independent of the work on any browser were you so so yeah i said if you're running IE or firefox or safari you could go to let's say table.chat enough google com you sign in you load your web app and there you go or you can install the chrome extension if you're in crowd last on the on the list here of leaks that there's going to be tons of emoticons tons of a maschi there's gonna be apparently 800 different ones ranging from smiley faces to animals to anything that AOL chat used to have so if you're into that it's gonna have it that's good right that sounds like overkill the end so a group if you're in a like right now let's say all of us are a group chat you know where we're sitting now we're Babel and right pickle refer chat back and forth to one another and we say hey we want to do it you just hit a button just similar to messenger you can take a group chat to hang out that that features gonna be there um conversation the records so no you're not going to have to go into gmail anymore to search for conversations it's going to have a history built into the to the app or a accessible history from the app and apparently this is going to have a quote first class iOS experience so that's good it's not surprising most of googles apps are first-class experience on iOS as well oh yeah well for the maps maps is exactly over there in the dark side yeah I referenced it like it's like it's good over there if you're stuck behind that massively high wall at that that walled garden alright so to Ascot let me give you your my app guide we have any other apps to talk about here before we move on to some devices Chrome Beta got full screen with nice chrome beta yeah so let's say well first of all it's awesome to have your home screen as the browser it's just awesome if you haven't used like dolphin or any other browser that's used it you haven't experienced it you just know chrome it's awesome and hopefully this kid gets to the stable built quickly basically when you scroll down it's just the top bar just kind of floats away very nice and if you have a smaller screen allows you to view more of a bigger screen again allows you to view more very nice I think and it's you know less buggy it is getting a lot better I really can't wait I do you guys think that they're gonna come over the dev channel for mobile I admit I think the beta is the dead channel for mobile no that's stupid why would they have oh well though the mobile is already kind of a poured over from the desktop anyway where you already have the dev channel so I mean maybe but I just don't see it i want the dev channel well who knows god maybe that'll be announced at i/o there will be there major chrome announcement won't have anything else it'll be announcing the chrome dev channel free Android the sons of killing me alright so let's talk about some fun stuff let's talk about no late accessories so uh Nexus devices are known for a couple different things you know timely updates um what else are so this is the time the update latest version android you know factory images you know from google and late accessories i think that's pretty much part of the deal that it's kind of like a hidden feature it's not really interested it's not one that's really talked about a whole lot but Nexus devices have fashionably late accessories and that's just something that fast lately they're just late yeah they're just little late just so uh nothing fashionable about it till five or six months isn't fashionable no not exactly just amber 6 learn coming up to the party with a fifth of vodka in your hand when you're already trashed while everybody else is happening pretty good so so so what are we talking about here Daniel what would happen with Nexus devices this week well the the Nexus time God accessory that you announced a glass I suppose believes in a Nexus device but there's been a lot of glass rumors coming this week so TechCrunch confirms the Google is going to shift glass within a month which does make sense because Google i/o is it about a month yeah that makes sense because what a developer's supposed to develop on yeah exactly yeah so that that made that makes a lot of sense there's also rumor out there that Google is looking to hire for tea glass advisors for support the river says it's a one year contract in new york city of Los Angeles or San Francisco with possible detail work involved so hiring people up probably going to be no on the streets talking people showing off glass so I mean that makes sense now that you know we don't like to confirm or knocking on confirm your rumors but it's a device rumor let's say glass ends up being three to five hundred dollars retail cost that's still a lot of money for somebody to spend on a device a type of device they've never bought before so you have to sell it to them so and the rumor is that there's going to be glass events around the country and these retailers or I'm sorry these support the support staff will will provide support to you know journalists to people in the media to celebrities to people with these events they're going to be actively talking about glass they don't want them to get it you're like I don't know how to use this thing you know they want these people promoting glass to to know what they're doing so it makes perfect sense you don't want somebody to promote your product it doesn't even know anything about it yep I once imagining like Canvassers on the streets showing it off to people like you like on Times Square or something like that yeah exactly look you see street vendors and stuff doing stuff like that that sort of stuff so that like the ordinary person walking by can actually like sit down and see it get an idea what is this thing before they go and spend that much money on something especially because Google's probably gonna sell it online and give me like I don't have a clue what this thing is I've never been touched one that was the interesting part of that rumor that said no rumors are rumors who knows they may or may not ever come to fruition but they said that there's a possibility that Google wouldn't open up 3 stores around the country as you said in Los Angeles and San Francisco and New York so they would have a retail location where people who come in and try that and that kind of goes back to that whole rumor months ago about a brick-and-mortar store that Andy Rubin said nope not happening so who knows yeah I mean glass really is the kind of product that feed retail front end because something that consumers need tactile experience they need to touch it they need to see it literally in order to get a feel for whether or not they're going to want it the other way you can do this with a place for them to come in and do so yeah the other big glass rumor is that Google is going to be launching a collective for investing so investing into developers producing applications for and on google glass yeah I'm I mean uh John do you have some reason for that um well as far as the putting people on the streets another one you have to do is kind of condition people to a new technology like that anyway its exact average person that looks at glass is like thinking is a little bit Tony Stark so get people out there in the streets work with people showing them after all the media like you know the bad side of glass people could be recording your every move and you have to get people accustomed to the fact that this is the shift and technology moving forward yeah you should give them accustomed to hey this really could be a creepers device and this is how you fight that I know I going to be I'd so another thing that came out of the glass collectives announcement was during during their PR announcement one of the firms involved said that they back to handful of apps already and they mentioned in Twitter which it South by Southwest a month ago we found out that there was an Evernote app in new york times app you know gmail google+ and path but twitter wasn't mentioned so i don't know if they come on board since then or not either way there's gonna be a twitter app so those of you then Like Tweet you know there you go you know and I think that you know as you're walking down the street or whatever and and you want to send a real quick message to Twitter you know I think glass is a perfect Avenue for that you know you know because Twitter is about you know real quick short status you know messages now so you say a few words by voice command no post this picture that I just took without someones consent to Twitter you know because that's what we're going to do I'm kidding more glass will actually spell the word quickly so all these are you spelled sentences might just disappear I mean I like Syria we don't even need cheap yeah it's so let's talk about some more hardware news more device news um today to thing two big things happen for samsung one the Galaxy Note 8 is now available here in the US and to the galaxy mega 5.8 and 6.3 were officially announced so so let's talk about the note 8 real quick first of all let's go on the Megan name manga heck stupid game alright so so we saw the Mobile World Congress we saw the note 8 then they ate point oh I asked two gigs ram x no cpu 1.6 gigahertz quad-core um aesthetically it's basically it looks like a larger galaxy s3 but it's a note so it has no functionality but in so it's like a hybrid between the two and I in my opinion when you guys have created at skul it looks like yeah it's very large yeah so so it's a it's a bigger galaxy s device but it has no functionality so the big thing is is here in the US it doesn't have phone capabilities but across the pond it's a it's also a phone so I don't understand why carriers here in the US don't allow that I guess they haven't found a way to completely screw over phone based tablets or tablet based phones yet once they decide on how to do that then they'll probably start allowing it to operate here as a phone oh I mean a very good answer so uh how much does it cost starting today you can get it for four hundred bucks comes with $25 google play gift card $50 drop off 50 gigabytes face for 42 years so if you want you know if a note 2 is a little small and a note 10 is a little big you can now get a new made here in the US that's not bad of a price so so now from an eight inch device it you can't make phone calls here in the US however a six point three inch device maga which is pretty darn close in size you can toast a nexus well yeah yeah well basically uh I i really want somebody that's good with like you know video editing in photoshop to take like Sega's logo and have it like transformed like the galaxy like logo or something up and fly across the screen is this and Sega you're like mega and you'll win in animation yeah yo you'll win something Scott will give you some time talking about jelly beans you're gonna get you better hold your word to that people are gonna start sending you their address Josie's um so so let's talk about this mega device the Megas even though they're they're half an inch apart they are in size difference they have exactly the same internals um one point actually that's incorrect they don't have exactly the same internals very very similar internals um processors a little bit faster on the bigger guy the screen is a little bit better on the bigger guys to 720p on the six point three inch the 5.8 is in interesting resolution you know it's 960 x 640 like that's gonna look really good on a on a five gets q8 p so on a five-year five point five point eight like that things will look pathetic like I don't look really good it's gonna look crisp and clear your ella is on 6.3 ain't gonna be much better oh yes it'll look like retina especially miss Kenton yes so so are these gonna be like why do these things have budget displays when the display is the biggest thing on them well I think their budget phones as the dual-core middling processors and one and a half can go into brand would suggest first of all why would you make a budget huge phone why not because I just wrap her head around why would you make a big budget hi miss are looking for phones on a budget who want big note size phones to know Samsung's of dealing with that market I don't believe there's a niche in the world that Samsung doesn't think they can market a device to it's very true I'm up with a new nissha people they will build a brand new device just for that don't worry people samsung will eventually have a device for you just hear what Danna I think that's actually the nail on the head that you just hit Samsung has so much money because it they're the number one Android manufacturer that they can literally just throw a handful of phones at a wall and whichever one doesn't break they'll sell em oh so enough of them to cover the costs for all the other crap they made yeah yeah I really think that's they're doing they're there it's a big crapshoot for them and they make so much money that they they can afford to blow money putting out devices that don't make sense and if they end up selling a few of them who cares the Galaxy Note 2 and the galaxy s4 will carry them through what I had wonder I would love to see the list of phones it gets rejected what about the galaxy win that was announced this week don't just think about it the sheer amount of ice they put out what is the list of devices again they get rejected aren't they made of metal are they high quality really nice have a rejection Department Scott they believe it up if that is true I'm sorry Samsung you guys make great devices and we're glad to have you you yes in the android community but what you're doing is just bobbling the armands you know yes but we like it though because I'm one of those people that need a niche device and eventually I hope it will come because Samsung you will make it for me wanna sit as Samsung device you had the Galaxy Nexus yeah love that phone to death it was great for the mandated verizon so it's okay if you're not down with samsung if you're not down with Sammy you can uh get some cheap phones from zo me right to him yeah two new devices soz i owe me is the company that owns the me you I custom rom and they have been putting out devices for a couple years now in China that only sell in China that you can get them imported to the US relatively inexpensively um but they've been hugely successful in China that keeps selling out every time they do a run so they announced two new devices what is the me to s and that one's got a 4.3 inch IPS 720 screens that should be a pretty nice display with a 1.7 gigahertz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 processor so that's filling it this is a Chinese company right yes okay these names they make sense American isn't it is way better than American natives or phones yeah because Vizio is an American company and its name makes perfect sense no I'm talking about the phone names like the method of e2 yes yeah that makes sense over to the mega my god it's a reasonable point as opposed to the samsung epic touch 4g long term evolution that's a tongue twister yes 2 gigabytes of ram 16 or 32 gigabytes of internal storage eight or two like mega i think the 2011 so that's be a pretty powerful phone as i always been bragging about it beating the s4 in synthetic benchmarks really though that's based on their say-so so take it with a grain of salt or not be a bill hole in the UF you can get them imported to the US typically they are hspa+ only and the cost in u.s. dollars is 319 or 367 so that's for the 16 or 32 so cheap devices from this before shipping them into the US they also announced a cheaper lower end phone sort of this one has a larger four and a half inch display of an unknown density a 1.7 gigahertz dual-core s4 pro processor which I'm pretty sure they really need Snapdragon 400 um one gigabyte of ram 16 gigabytes of storage only than the same cameras and battery and then this one's only nine and a half million or thing so it's an earlier than half millimeters mega and it's also a lot cheaper it only two hundred and thirty nine dollars that's already jus 39 that's that's awesome oh yes our budget phones were of that quality yes and that kind of price yeah really catches they usually make like 300,000 unit batches yeah and that's why I wouldn't like the the 1 gig of ram though that's my only gripe about that yeah the the to play is definitely the lower headphone but I mean the ass at 320 and 370 are not expensive devices you see those letters and I know exactly what phone you're talking about and yet when you see like Derek touch mega I've no idea we're talking about it okay baby Samsung will make the the galaxy mega Genesis lot of that I'm gonna be so pissed at that point you know they really are just looking to get sued maybe the asus consider the transformer prime you know the make genesis is getting okay we should stop we should get serious for a second let's get serious also it talks about something custom rom world Derek yeah so over it routing and ramen is in place yes yes it's actually it's actually a place in the canada phone are we so cyanogenmod continues to see em all the things so the today actually cyanogenmod released milestone three monthly version 3 stable version 3 whatever you want to call it m3 that just means it's it's better more stable than a nightly build and they usually stop they do like a code freeze and stop a feature freeze and try to fix bugs and everything and getting a stable it up tighten it up and release a an M build so that came out today for handful devices and the list keeps growing so check it out if you're CN fan it's fairly stable Scott you rock and CM are you still down with the pink unicorn down with the pink down with the pink mm-hmm I'm I'm like an I have tried some others um I wasn't see him for about a week I did like it um just not something that I was used to I probably need to give more time yeah let's so let's talk about another up-and-coming wrong this one actually hits home for Dan and I um Oh actually you to Scott because these guys were actually on the show a couple times a long time ago like a year ago we need to have him back anyways so we're gonna talk about chameleon OS for a minute aka chaos rom a little bit of background on them here before we get in some features chaos rom was born from me you I it it's an open source ultra alternative to meet you I because right now me you I or mi UI is closed source um so a brief history of why this happened every week is I owe me which we just talked about them the makers of the me to a in the me to s they they put out a weekly build of their custom rom and it's it's a Chinese ROM it's you know there's no it's not open source so no one really knows what was changed and it comes out with new features bug fixes and so forth and chances are there is new bugs and new things are broken and things are changed and the guys over at miui us they they try to make changes to it and to port it to new additional devices they translate it from Chinese to English and so forth and they get these to get the ROM working on tons of devices that weren't originally supported and it becomes basically more of a pain in the ass for them as time goes on because new bugs get introduced new features get introduced new things happen on a weekly basis and they try to port these roms over the devices and things just break then on the Y and it becomes a real pain so what they decided to do a long time ago was to reverse engineer the me you I theme engine and to bring about the same type of awesome user customization and theming that new UI has but open source it and build it into an AOSP rom and that's what they did and the census changes colors you know themes so easily they call it a chameleon ROM or chameleon OS or chaos for short so anyways a little bit about it here features are pretty simple um there's a lot of features i guess it's built on top of signage not so it's fully open source it's highly customized such as the launcher is completely redesigned and not allowing things such as gestures you know previews and scaling and so forth the advanced theme manager which is reverse engineered from me you why is included and it allows you to mix and match various themes so much more than the CM phim engine does if you're not really familiar with me you want it allows you to go in and changing your icons to one icon set your status bar to another maybe your lock screen to another your boot animation to another messaging theme to this the framework theme to that ringtones for this font to that I mean is insanely customizable and you don't it you can pick and choose from various themes to you know get your feet your phone or your tablet you know to exactly how you want it to be I has customized status bar and customized toggles customized messaging as i said the messaging actually layout has been the revised as well and the neat thing is you can directly manage your installed app permissions directly from the wrong which is pretty cool and as a guy that used to love me you I back in the gingerbread days I honestly haven't ran it since Ice Cream Sandwich came out you know I'm gonna try it out here I actually haven't well the only device I had that support it is is my Nexus 7 and and I don't install a lot of roms on my Nexus 7 just cuz I like to keep it clean in stock but from time to time I do test out of rom for you know review and reporting purposes so this weekend I plan on giving it a test run and so I can give my official opinion on it but from what I'm hearing so far from the developers and from people that I've tried it some people say that it's awesome they love it and you know that's a lot of potential there is it done with the baked oh yes it is down with Tamika you should give it a try like my Maker will have some fun with it yeah it's edit it and there's a nice thing about it is yes it is a new rom but it does support mtz themes which is the miui the me you I theme so you can go ahead and install all those themes that are out you know there's thousands of themes already available for it now they do have their own ctz theme you know that specifically for chameleon but you don't have to use it you can use any of the existing ones that are out there so that's pretty awesome on I do want to try it out i don't know if i'll stick with it on a tablet just because I don't like a tablet that customized but if I didn't have this this phone but I got if I didn't have the DNA I definitely be running it right now so if you have any questions about me you I go ahead and drop it in the comments here and uh will forward it on to the developers if we can't answer them in directly and maybe we'll have them on the show here in a few weeks we haven't had them on then in a long time alright so let's let's talk about some some carrier news dan what are carriers been doing here over here in the US yes so last week we mentioned the t-mobile and MetroPCS the their merger was kind of on the rocks because the metropcs shareholders are kind of myth because the offer it's probably three or four dollars below per share below metros current market value basically the shareholders are upset that they aren't getting their money's worth out of the bio and t-mobile is come back and increase their bid in what they said is their best and final offer so it's kind of in the shareholders court now whether or not they will accept the offer um so we'll see how that goes they're voting I plead with the end of the month so in a couple of weeks we will know whether or not that deal is going through it's already gotten cleared by the DOJ and the FCC so it's just up to metropcs shareholders now AT&T is rolling out more LTE in three or four new markets and expanding several others they've also rolled out their plans for some 67 new markets to be deployed over the summer so definitely look forward to lots of new 18 tlte really everywhere Sprint is also rumored to be turning on some 21 new markets in the next couple of weeks so lots more LTE coming out from really everybody all over the US with whoever your carrier is at this point and then across the pond everything everywhere is announcing plans to double the channel width of their LTE network which is very technical on the back end but essentially what they're doing is making the pipe wider the pipe that all the traffic goes through wider by double the diameter so it's going to speed things up a lot it's going to allow for a lot more customers as people continue to join their network and it's really going to set them up sort of in the long term especially for moving towards lte-advanced which they also announced their plans to look into so everything everywhere is definite LTE in the UK another plan to have or they I think they already have half of population of the UK covered they're planning to expand that pretty rapidly from here so definitely good for for our friends across the pond then other industry news the fair search Alliance which is made up of Microsoft Oracle nokia expedia tripadvisor a bunch of other companies have filed a formal complaint against Google in the European Union basically they're complaining about to anti-competitive practices from google the first one is giving away android for free yes that's right microsoft and oracle are telling the world that open source software is by nature anti-competitive what yes good like Apple does and take a free operating system and make people pay for it yeah exactly yeah I mean that's just a shocking position to be taken all of those companies can triple not all of them but Oracle in Microsoft and Nokia contribute to open source communities they're upset because Google is licensing products on top of a glass in it exactly example for the second piece of them that's the second piece of the complaint just they're complaining that the Google Apps suite so that's the Play Store gmail talk the whole kind of sweet perhaps the tends to come with every device they're basically saying that's anticompetitive too but the problem with that argument is that the manufacturers can choose to not release a device with Google software nemeth on Amazon does it lots of companies do it in China and other places abroad it's not particularly common in the US but there were a couple of years ago a few devices on verizon and been set as the default search so Oh am definitely have the choice that they never had with Internet Explorer so would microsoft and and these other companies actually put in the complaint is that companies can't really choose to not use Google's products because all of the other alternatives are tear let nobody wants them well that that's basically because we and everybody else can't build a program to compete with the programs that google makes they're being anti competitive yeah that that doesn't make any any sense in an irrational person's mind no no not at all name is cheaper Microsoft and Nokia who does the exact same thing your phones that they may still have microsoft software on yeah whatever Microsoft is butthurt because what do they do for years in the final of the EU caught up with them and said no we need to have a menu saying pick your browser on installation so they got screwed for so now that they're looking to bring the same thing based so good double screw they were approached and they said no and then they got double fine they're like okay you're not gonna buy ball well you know we're gonna find you double and yeah whoo that hurt yeah yeah I mean there are patent maximalist maximalists and catagory maximalists at Google haters of for cute out there who are laughing at this filing because it's just so outrageous maybe to claim that open source software is anti-competitive because it's free is just ridiculous there's butthurt because nobody wants to buy their freakin ecosystem on the mobile and eventually and it does up there yeah then in other European legal news apples slide to unlock patent and that's the 381 patent in the US was invalidated in Germany the lead once they're struck down and it never should have been issued since it's intuitively obvious that didn't they make fun of us patents yes and I I kind of liked that because of the US patent system needs to grow up a little bit yeah yeah in US patent news this week there is a pretty telling report about the processing of the USPTO with last several years so there was a big stink probably about 10 years ago maybe more about how the bad and trade office was more or less just rubber-stamping everything something kind of cracked down on it and started paying attention but said that that was at the same point when everybody realized that you could just buy a patents and rode on suing people and make tons of money doing it without having to actually make any products or do anything so people started filing a lot more patents which then led to a backlog so the outgoing patent trade office manager as his big shining achievement is that he cut down on this backlog which means that the approval rate has gone up words of ninety percent ninety percent of every application submitted gets approved a meany percent that's wrong sixty percent of all patents that are reviewed in front of a court or reviewed by the USPTO gets trucked out I would argue would be more than that I think that's just based on how many have actually been struck down you know I mean there should be maybe even a process before Pattin gets approved where someone that would be able to contesta submit something to them you know helps them out with the prior are with the yeah having it it's not a very public process and the the patent trade officers their job in terms of performance is rated on how many applications did you approve now how many did you process how many did you approve when that's the way the job is set up all you're going to do is approve applications because that's your job your job is to approve applications it's not your job to review them and analyze that and actually think about them it's just your job to approve them the other problem with that is that companies can submit like 42 different types of Appeals when it gets rejected and so the way the pet and trade office likes to scream their numbers is by counting each one of those resubmissions as a separate one that's a rejection when that patent eventually gets approved they just counted as one approvable in five rejections instead of just one approval hmm so that's why the number is a lot question night meat and USPTO whatever mantra net but yeah they're the companies are just resubmitting their patents until they happen upon an inspector that's going to rubber stamp it and why not exactly there's no disincentive for companies there's no disincentive for filing bogus patents there's no disincentive for refiling the same bogus patents over and over and over and over again because it one will stick to the velcro wall yeah and there's no disincentive for getting a bogus patent and then suing the crap out of other people for it and then having it struck down with lightning there's no disincentive for any of it no it is not a good situation I wonder what's gonna happen something's gotta happen I wish I'd have got so many things in America yeah it's a good place here though it is a good place yeah just don't we do I owe a lot to screw things up here everything like we really try just to make we really try our hardest to screw a lot of things up like are you talking about you personally are above the US so I was I just talking about the u.s. Scott was very okay when he's fine so what though we had a question or two earlier in the show here um about with the Nexus headphone well Scott Anderson just happens to have a nexus headphone so if you want to see what that looks like here it has a nice little Nexus symbol on it well it's still there hey it looks I can't bar our laughing mega all right so so Scott inquiring minds want to know did you buy the nexus USB cable no and even if I did I would not admit it you know if you did buy the nexus USB cable I want to see an unboxing video okay I think that would be a very exciting I would love you know I haven't looked on YouTube has anyone done a nexus USB cable unboxing it it would be amazing if they packaged it just you know extremely well you know my little hood open lining in the bottom of it or something the packaging was ok ok so to be awesome Charlie we know will care about packaging how does it sound okay first of all the packaging was ok uh sound is ok alright so so you know those Galaxy Nexus headphones that we got with our verizon galaxy nexus oh it blows those out of the water ok there they're definitely a lot higher quality than those good yeah that's always aiming for and I needed one with a microphone how much do they cost with shipping morning some twenty bucks that you know what if you went down to like Best Buy and picked them up that's what you're gonna pay a best buy for an a average quality pair you know 20 30 bucks yeah you can get you know some some extreme generic for 10 bucks ten bucks or you can spend a hundred dollars and get don't that yeah i would never spend that amount of money on headphones but that's me I'd some places under apple earbuds ah how much clothes I have no idea I've never bought them i don't buy iOS products I don't think their hunger I think they're like probably 50 or 60 about now are you serious and I think ones with the mic are like 40 I don't know that somebody go to the forbidden website I mean all right well I think I think that what you get for questions I think I think we're done and we're done on time you know on time so so how did the show go last week guys you know I was out sick and I did watch it I I didn't give it my undivided attention when I watched it you know so I must have no longer I might have missed a thing or two hair I watched the next day when I was still sick so that's why I didn't give it my full undivided attention but it looked like it went really well um guys gave away some product yeah you know uh it looks like you guys had a lot of fun too decent show good that's good show I theors liked it because there's a chance to win you know I thought I had the chance to win that I would that's why I was on the show you I wanted to you know what you know what Scott next week we'll give away something next week I have 10 things to give away I've had for like a month to give away and I know you have I need to give them away so let's give them away next week can we do a little hint as to what they are for the viewers all right so no I hint don't show them it nope so I know the galaxy mega just got announced oh my god and the galaxy s4 is going to be available soon but for those of you they're gonna be rocking the galaxy s3 for the next year or plan on buying a galaxy s3 now that they're extremely cheap for like a hundred bucks or something or know somebody that has an s3 feel bad for them yeah yeah I have I have some galaxy s3 cases to give away from they're made from it's like they're made by a famous designer shown that that that's the that's the spoiler right there I'll just talk about it I'm 12 given away for a long time there they're very neat you know in terms of design I would I use one they're not my cup of tea but that doesn't mean they're not cool design I just don't like cases all right so so Scott if people want to nin next week to to win a galaxy s3 case well we're going to figure out how we're going to do it might be comments I like that how we 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