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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross I'm Scott Anderson I'm Johnathan Franklin I'm Chris look welcome to the show guys so we have a lot to talk about this week we have tons of ecosystem news google was behind some companies some tablet optimization was added to the Play Store Google basically said hey Facebook you're not allowed to do something indirectly we have some earning earnings reports from all the big guys this week as the 1st quarter of 2013 comes to an end we have all sorts of app updates airdroid some keyboards a facebook home at a whole bunch of installs but who's actually using it onto device and carrier news t-mobile and MetroPCS tied the knot officially and it actually uh becomes official May first but they that they tie the knot we have some more device news such as the galaxy s4 some google TV information and we'll wrap it up with patent wars as usual so so let's get started and talk about some ecosystem news for those of you that are glass explorers or hoping to use glass in the future you might be a little saddened to know that Eric Schmidt said this week that glass would likely be available to consumers in 2014 well he really didn't say that he said glass would probably be available in a year ish so probably is not the best word for a time frame in year ish isn't the best word for a time frame either but a year ish from now puts it in 2014 or so so yeah if you're if you're a glass Explorer you'll you'll be using it for a while before the general public gets ahold of it um i mentioned that google bought a company they google supposedly acquired wavy is that is that how you say that mmm that's Tom saying it wavy so wavy is an application that aggregates news that it thinks that you're interested in and is relevant to you the rumor is you know speculated that Google will be integrating wave ease natural language technology into the knowledge graph and services and elsewhere so you know Google is all about the knowledge graph and contextual data and being able to provide relevant information to users so that sounds like it's a good acquisition from google standpoint no I'm not interested to see what they're going to do with it you know especially when they buy that as a company like this um google added tablet optimization tips to the Google Play Developer console now you're able to provide proactively scan apps to be uh plated for tablet compatibility and it provides developer feedback in real time but you know the details on that isn't really a big deal you know the the fact that they are making tablet optimization update so Google is in really pushing Android tablets it is still which they've been doing that since the Nexus 7 you know first first launched speaking of tablets what about Android notebooks there's some interesting tidbits and news this week on the in the Android world about notebooks in Intel executive said that 200 notebook $200 notebooks are on the way and you know as well as I do you really can't buy two hundred dollar intel-based notebook there there you a lot more expensive than that so how are they going to get there are they going to be atom processors that that run Android you know with windows 8 being the ? that it is in Microsoft's business model for licensing being the way that it is where you know windows is pretty expensive it's a hundred bucks so is it going to be Android you know are we going to see an Android tablet who really knows but there's a lot of speculation about that and perhaps mercy a touchscreen you know convertible pc with in with android running in no this is confirmed but a lot of there's been a lot of speculation around the around the internet the past the past week about this you know we we like speculation because a gives us on the talk about right it's fun ah I don't think it's it's a probable in my opinion I don't know I think android makes a good you know notebook operating system but then again I've never used a transformer prime and those of you that have used a transformer prime you love that keyboard dock and you once you dock it the most of you never take that keyboard dock off and keep it on there and use it as a notebook so those are some of battery life and so apparently there is a market for them so we'll see what Intel does it's a it's up in the air right now it's just it's just speculation um Facebook announces their biggest developer party yet and guess what it is it's the night before Google i/o interesting to see what happens there they said the Facebook promise that you'll be able to meet people from the Facebook team and other top notch Android developers so that's interesting interested to see you know what they're what they're pushing with that you know because Facebook has been heavily entrenched and Android for a while now well with their Android campaign around the office to switch to Android and now with their their home application which we'll get to a little bit more information a little bit so it's a I'm surprised you know that they're holding us you guys think anything you know they're they're looking to do they're just looking to strengthen their foot foothold with Android a thing they're probably trying to get in with that Android developers to try to because Facebook integrates ads for Android applications already in their own apps of any of their probably trying to play nice with Android developers to give them to warm up to Facebook as a platform to tell me push that probably that make sense it's uh I think I think they're definitely playing buddy buddy and trying to you know bring some people over to their side so to speak I guess all right so so speaking of Facebook did Google did something just to just a little bit ago earlier today google updated their Google Play Developer console that will actually updated the google play content policy so if you're a developer yo developer account when you sign in you get a nice pop up message the popup message says Google Play content policies have been updated see content policy section which clarifies that and app downloaded from Google Play may not modify replace or update its own APK binary code using any method other than Google play's update mechanism Google Play is a trusted source for Android applications and we are committed to providing a secure and consistent experience so the first thing that comes to mind to me is remember over the past month or a month or so ago people that had facebook installed started getting uh pop-ups or notification saying hey download the latest facebook update and Facebook downloaded itself it didn't download it from the Play Store Facebook was was installing updates without the Play Store so that's that's an interesting way to do things I mean it's it's cutting Google out of the mix but the biggest thing is is that it's allowing an app to download updates from who knows where where as Google said they're a known trusted source you know so so you want to download from the known trusted source you want to download from a third-party server that could have been hacked me you know you know it's not saying it happens but we're even a bell with malicious intent gives you a nice little apt to warm you up to it and it just decided they want to put some malware on there exactly any off of you I mean and the fact that you know permissions could change the apps these apps aren't being scanned for malware by Google you know bouncers not scanning them so it's good that Google did this and I can't think of any app recently that has tried to do this so this is basically a hey Facebook you know uh uh uh you know we we saw what you were doing so we updated our don't continue yeah what you did there face yeah we see what you do there and we don't like it so basically if Facebook continues to do that I'm not up on all the content policy rules and regulations but I see people getting removed their apps removed from the google play store for violating content policies all the time so if Facebook if they don't comply which I'm sure they will would be stupid for them not to if they wouldn't they could potentially have their app removed from the Play Store which which would be all sorts of hilarious let me have money because because we like Google+ we're on google+ facebook bad anyways fine I have something to say about that but alright wiki tell me how is facebook what do you want to say it's just that you know recently I did a review the HTC first and it's actually kind of cool and that you can get really right to stock jelly bean right off the bat I mean as soon as you turn off facebook home you've got basically stopped jelly bean oh and that's all it using yeah that is very cool um HTC will probably never update it again but at the same time it's cool to be able to just you know see like literally stock jelly bean like you know you would get from a rom but uh I had to reactivate my facebook for the first time in about I don't know a year and a half maybe even longer and I instantly remembered why i deleted my facebook or deactivated it it's just most people's friends and status updates just aren't enough aren't good enough to consume your entire homes for me it just what you don't like to know like you know what they're eating what kind of naughty pictures they're looking at what they're thinking out there feeling you know like the mat as you know number now why I don't hang out with a lot of the people I used to hang out with people realized waking up to go to work in the morning and then getting home to throw some clothes in the laundry and then having to cook for yourself is something that's like superhuman that nobody else has to do on a daily basis but I don't constantly have to be reminded of it you know personally yeah okay so so uh that really wraps it up for ecosystem news so uh you know let's move on to the money you know people want people to know about the money how our company's doing are they they making money and they losing money you know so so we had q1 2013 numbers come in John you want to tell us a little bit about them you know pretty much everyone's putting out their earnings reports right about now and hopefully appeasing shareholders uh the first one notable one was Apple it was kind of speculated that they were going to see a profit margin decrease in which turned out to be true the net net income max dropped about eighteen percent compared to this time last year the revenue itself was actually up eleven percent over the last quarter the iphone sales kind of slow down slow down a good bit they grew three percent during the quarter and that the the fourth consecutive quarter of actual declining gross profit margin by percentage which is actually the longest stretch since 1993 specifically it's at four to thirty seven point five percent now versus 47.4 percent a year ago um nelson elsa plan to reward shareholders by doubling their program to return cash to shareholders via stock buybacks and higher dividend so they're basically going to be spending 100 billion dollars on the effort through 2015 which is ridiculous the share purchases themselves will be it's going to go up to sixty billion from where what was ten billion so that's the largest planet history to so basically they're helping out all the discworld stockholders by investing into themselves but i guess the biggest thing to note is that the ipad mini realistically its existence has heard the ipad lineup because it doesn't pull any where near the profit margin that the larger iPad does and then even though they're selling a lot of iphones they're starting to sell a lot more than older lower profit margin devices like the four and the 4s instead of the five so what they really needs is to really hit one other park as far as a new hardware device innovation or a new market altogether to really get that profitability back do you guys know at what point they stopped manufacturing a iphone like model you know I would have guessed a within the years ago seems to be the you know the 3gs doesn't exist anymore so i would think that um like two years you think i would i would think that one the 5s or six or whatever it ends up being comes out then the four will probably be deprecated i would think that's usually what they do well so i mean i don't see any point of continuing carrying the four i mean it's you know I ancient by today's standards but I'm not a terrible phone probably know for certain people but the fact that matter is is that you know Apple that that's their first profit decrease in 10 years that's that's big news that's you know and apples been struggling that you know to stay above four hundred dollars a share for four weeks now there they've really become a victim of their own success and Samsung is probably in a kind of became you know the the mobile market is moving forward but it's just not you know blowing people out of the water like it used to be they're becoming less a commodity and more device yet you know a daily basis and you expect you know it's not magical anymore it's functional um the next one call calm posted their quarterly revenue results and they made 6.1 billion dollars which is up twenty-four percent year-over-year and during that time frame during the last quarter they shipped 173 million MSM chips in the quarter the net income was slightly down and the biggest part order that is because of all the rd that they've had to pour to accommodate all the new network technologies that have come out in the last especially like combining cdma and LTE takes a lot of work on their part but now that they've gotten their radio technology pretty much to go for every major network technology to come out in the next couple of years then they're good to go LG had some interesting earnings kind of mediocre across the board but the smartphone division is actually picking up a bit bit their revenues went to two point nine six billion which is like a 28.5 percent year-over-year increase the operating profit is 122 million which is about four times the previous year and they hit their own milestone where they ship 10.3 million smartphones which is a record for them so did the nexus for helpful model you know the nexus 4 definitely had a part in kind of picking them up there a little bit and putting some life into them Optimus G of those G pro mm-hmm definitely so I know that those are really the notable earnings calls everyone else did you know as well as expected when we talked about Google's earnings uh the previous week yeah yeah surprise surprise mobile across the all the companies are you know so so let's talk about routing Roman Britain in ramen ramen noodles of course sony released a OSP for the Xperia Z on their own github it's worth noting that most things are functional but Sony can't release proprietary binaries for the modem and camera to the public so they'll have to be pulled from other sources and basically they take they technically can't be part of a osb efforts because they are open source code it's good news for the development community if you have those devices see some exciting stuff for that cyanogenmod they're adding both time-delayed and voice capture models to the camera software currently the voice actions are Sid whiskey and cheese kind of reminding me of the galaxy s3 voice actions with the camera and things like that remind you as of that yeah I actually I talked about this whenever it was first men and I was very surprised at how many people were said oh my galaxy note 2 can do that or all my galaxy note 3 can do or yeah yeah galaxy s3 can do that and and I said yeah but that's TouchWiz and not everybody likes TouchWiz and those features aren't available on every other device not every phone is a samsung touchwiz device you know so it's for people that run cyanogenmod that lost that functionality on a newer TouchWiz device or for anybody that doesn't have it that's awesome you know that's great you know that you can do timed photos in remotely triggered photos by keywords you know it not that not all those features are available to everybody and now the fact that most popular rom in the world has it and a large list of supported devices in a very large list of supported devices it's going to bring these features to a lot of people that didn't have it so it's very cool and if if my little guy here that keeps on truckin ever gets cm cm 10.1 I will use the hell out of those features from someone that has a device that comes with s voice pretty much the only useful thing about s voice are the voice commands because s voices come it's garbage compared to google voice search but you know s voice is a 30 megabyte file versus some voice commands being integrated into the software I'd really like to see Samsung just focus on putting voice commands where it's necessary and not have this bloated useless piece of software taking up memory it's a better approach yeah angry hey what so let's let's talk about some apps alright so first of all I think the biggest one here is swipe it basically you know that keyboard that comes with a lot of android devices um gives you the option to change to it basically it finally gets put into a beta application in the Play Store available for 99 cents they've needed this for a long time they've needed to just like with what Google did with calendar they you know made the appt they made an appt for it and not come in the operating system so this is kind of a move like Google is doing with their their main apps making it into a nap and they've only been on om partnership devices so it's not like on everything and with the large amount of other apps that are coming out for keyboards you know they have to make a presence and this will give them a good way to update it as well as you know add new features things like that another beloved app of mine is airdroid and I know a lot of people use this app and it's very useful they just came out with their new version it's a device free lab so you sign in to the web and AirDroid will launch automatically on the device even when it's not nearby same network free so you don't need a Wi-Fi network connection to log in you can access airdroid through different networks with an AirDroid account that's kind of cool some people think security it's a little bit a but it's very nice you can access your phone from anywhere you can find your phone okay locate your device on a map lock hit wipe it lock pop and drop it what call notifications and initiate a new call from your Android device remote camera like that improved SMS photo and file experience it's definitely improved a lot of bug fixes and improvements all in all a lot better and I'm excited to see where it goes from here and then speaking of Kickstarter like I was speaking about it earlier I don't know how to pronounce it anybody know how to pronounce that I think it's Mindy on you you can butcher it will let you minam minam okay so minam correct me if I'm wrong any like a somebody spell it out for me i spelled mi and um you um basically they were a Kickstarter campaign they were completely blown out of the water the fundraiser started with a goal of just ten thousand dollars and ended today with the total of eighty seven thousand three hundred sixty nine dollars nearly nine hundred percent of the original goal basically for those of you guys who haven't seen the minim keyboard project it's true create a keyboard that is both effective and typing in a small screen with small screen real estate taking down the keyboard rose just 21 it's kind of an interesting concept what do you guys think about the one line concept it's interesting like I don't know how well I'll be able to type on it but I do like it because especially in landscape mode you know you you can kind of go to respond to like a comment and you kind of forget your place because the you know you're the count of the box that you're typing in takes up the whole screen were you looking at what you're responding to on in portrait so you must not even type anything worth mentioning on landscape mode because you get once one sentence in there and then it but you know yeah it's in the buffer and you can't see anything else like if you know if you forget what you were saying if you have a very long worthy Google+ comment to type out or an email you're gonna be calling you you screwed like I hate typing in landscape or if you truly like one of those novel typers on your phone which by the way I hate you um this will not be the app for you any other comments on this do we know how to pronounce it yet nope minimally minus zoom in you I why don't we just call it the Kickstarter minimal keyboard no there's probably another project that's coming out soon it's gonna be called that ah touche up there project a little bit of a or shadow there okay so uh facebook home you know this has been a week or so since it's been out sees it but procedure on half a million installs however the question remains how many people install it because they're curious and they've you know seeing a lot of things about it and then just don't install it i would like what adventure that that's a lot of people because the play store doesn't track that the Play Store tracks install is not active installs yeah but and then you have to if you want to track that though how do you track an activex install you know then you gotta go into metrics for that and then it's it you don't want to get into that cluster in my opinion but it would be interesting to see how many people uninstall it and how long they had it on their phone I'm sure I'm sure facebook has that metric though oh you know they do oh yeah Google might not buy facebook no they definitely have that metric and I'm sure Facebook doesn't want to share that metric darn right like yes half a million installs dammit 10,000 felpham only kept it and they rated at one star oh they raided it one star the one star rating oh man okay I'm softkeys e it's an application that lets you seamlessly customize the on-screen navigation buttons this works with any device that has roots and busy box and soft keys let's go Scott that this mate you know this phone i have the HTC droid DNA hits my favorite film I got a POS I alright so if you're new to the show and new to Derek Ross he hates this phone but he still uses it we don't know why he likes torture he doesn't talk in the third person that much so don't be scared right there so late um although it's in twrp right now yeah yeah wiki I saw you hadn't warp earlier so so I don't like this film but I I'm waiting for something better to come along to make me happy you always say so I'm still waiting Scott anyways uh damn it now you made me lose my spot profitable for talking about soft keys oh I miss I miss soft keys I really do if if I have on the nexus 4 still if I didn't sell it or if I didn't get my wife my galaxy nexus I would be using that app right now and just I changed my soft keys every day you know they that I think it's awesome for people that have soft keys I'm job little jealous you would change your soft keys every day you get you without me you would not yet i used to for the first week i would and then i would get tired of it then i would stick with something pink unicorn man dude yes I what are you talking about a bitch to me right he what I changed him what I need to write pink unicorn you know I might have a pink shirt on but listen I have a pink unicorn shirt on ok I'm changing all my soft key that they're all going to be pictures and they're gonna be of unicorns and in different colors I want you to know screenshot and we're out here from the android authority page wait for that screenshot because I will do it most likely tonight if I have time hashtag pink unicorn screenshot hashtag corn droid okay that not we touched on this a little bit last episode but we do some more information now google launched an app called one today which is support to support nonprofit organizations that goal is to raise awareness and highlight nonprofit organizations in their work allowing them to support the allowing you to support them through giving one dollar so every day a new project is highlighted the new opportunity to donate and it's currently an invite-only like we said last time and only on Android to test the service and you'll need a Google Wallet account to will not account but you'll need Google Wallet to donate is pretty interesting different thing a day it it's a cool thing for them to do you know I wonder no wait they can't use that for tax purposes what it's good that they are focusing on nonprofit organizations and trying to kind of chair pick the ones that really would you prefer that I'll take the money and just blow it somewhere you know would you prefer them to come out with an app that funds profit organizations like if we have like Verizon on there hey here's a tip that be funny all right so uh so that's not gonna be made into it out by the i would rate that one star if that makes you feel you would not you would download it you would use it all right so let's move on to the to the meat of the show the the device news and carry your news well will lump all that together we call this the t-bone of the show the t-bone on the show was over so the show is called the samsung galaxy s4 and the HTC One and instead of talk spending the next half hour talking about these two devices because it's been beaten to your heads the past couple days since the s4 became available nearly everywhere for pre-order and people are getting review units we posted you know a versus video something has some loved the one some love the s4 and our man looky here actually has the s4 on hand so instead of going into insane amount of detail I'm going to say I'm going to refer you to our vs. videos our review videos and our review posts um if you want to find out more information but what I will offer for our live viewers right now while we talk about other device is if you have any specific questions about the s4 since Wookiee one right now he's going to be more than willing to answer anything you want to know so go ahead and leave your ask four questions in the comments and hit them up here as we're talking about some other news will give you a few minutes to think of something good you know besides you like it you know I asked you know ask him ask him something hard and complicated he's only had it for about a day or so I would like to say something just to kick this all off okay um first I I've had a little more time to test the s4 before when we saw in New York you're right you're right well the other thing is I would like to address this right off the bat and I'm going to speak right to the camera your samsung galaxy note 2 is not better than the s4 stop saying but it is not better that's it it's nothing backed it up he just goes out right and says it and he's starting a flame war this is just that's crazy you know I'm doing it here instead of looky here looky knows what the hell he's talking about so I would believe him you know bigger isn't always better you know mmm all right so why you're why you're thinking what why you're coming up with some some questions for wiki here so t-mobile and MetroPCS officially tie the knot and well they announced they're officially tying the knot I guess and it'll be made official come May first here just in a few days so what does that mean well we'll we'll find out they're getting married there they're going to be doing some things and I'm sure next week we'll have all sorts of information for you about the the merger but it was approved and that that's good there was some speculation here when I'm when and if it was ever going to happen but it was approved all right so speaking of t mobile wash a Washington state attorney general said that that the fact that they're calling themselves the uncarrier and there running themselves as the uncarrier that's a little misleading because they actually are carrier so the Attorney General's thinks that they were deceptive and they duped some of their customers so because t-mobile is an awesome company they they're they're green and they're going to clarify their terms of service and if anybody was duped into thinking that t-mobile wasn't an actual carrier after all um you have you can cancel your service with no penalty if you signed up between March 26th and April 25th so during that month time frame when they were uncarrier in themselves all over the place if you got duped into thinking they weren't the carrier you can cancel your service and there will be no cancellation penalty and you'll get a full refund for the device and the service provided so that's very nice Aceves at Samsung that's very nice of t-mobile to do them um I don't have tmobile but I wasn't duped or any did Jenny you guys think they actually weren't a carrier no I was really confused for a while there but but I but um I think I got it I think I got oh yeah I understood no clue honestly yeah but whatever ok so moving on moving on let's uh let's see if we have any comments about how fast is the GPS lock rookie I have no idea i haven't had time to test it I'm sorry oh my god is here right now all right so it's so run outside you guys I'm gonna lock on in your house yeah I don't think I can test it right now um I'm gonna I'll try okay so while you're seeing if your house is impervious to GPS service I'm what near a window but I don't think it's going to work alright so do you feel like a Jedi when you're using it because of the air gestures no no okay I'm sorry I would all right so so okay uh how about a more important question are any of the air gestures actually useful have you have you used them as a better question have you used them what do you think of the air gestures um I've used a few i mean the the hover like the captain you know anything that when you get near the screen kind of like the s pen does with a note 2 or any other device that uses the s pen stuff like that is kind of handy but um for the most part I think it's personally I think it's a little giving I don't find it all that handy but I haven't had that much time to play around with it at home when we tried it out in New York it was really hard to get most things working just because of all the crowds and noise so that's where I had the most experience with it I mean I've literally been playing around with this thing a little bit today because I would I got it yesterday and I was working all day yesterday and all day today and whenever I've had the chance I've been trying to mess around with this but uh I haven't had a chance to really play with I gestures or or whatever that hell they call it or the air stuff but I like the fact that it does know when you're near it that's just a cool feeling ah alright so we have another question should not be laughed at like that all right so we have another question here um will the s4 get screen burn like the s3 well I'll let us say he can't answer that question because he only had it for a short amount of time and screen burn you know what would happen after excessive Hughes and I'm betting you didn't you haven't use it excessively yet now I'm trying and you know it's and it's a it's it's slightly updated you know two completely different display technology to so so we're you know who knows what what lies in for the screen i'm assuming samsung address some issues on that but but uh you know we'll we'll keep it on that good that is interesting to know what i would like to say to just real quick is that I'm really disappointed that I don't get to play around with Knox yet cuz that was the one feature that had me we're looking I was going to talk about that in a minute damn it oh that's finest that's fine but we'll get we'll get to that in a minute now and I'll let you uh you can you can yell about it as well with me so so uh please explain the key differences between the US version with a Snapdragon in the international version with the Exynos 5 well I'm gonna say that that's pretty much that's pretty much the difference so the Exynos 5 has eight cores in it four of them only use at a time it's it's a ARM architecture big little so let's say you're running like a really badass powerful program you're going to have the four powerful course running and then now you're sending a text message you don't need the really powerful cores run to that or maybe the phone sitting idle it's not in use so the little guys the low-power bigger price martyr in a smaller power generation processes are going to run so you don't actually run 88 at a time it's kind of a little marketing gimmick to say it's eight core I mean don't get me wrong it is a eight core we only ever used for at a time um in the Snapdragon 600 duh well it's a Snapdragon 600 it's it's one of two devices with it on the market or will be on the market right now with the cpu have the cpu on the snapdragon benchmarks almost exactly as well as the octa does with the bigger course so it's not I don't know the bathroom is set oh sorry no that's so we have a bunch of questions you just want to try to hammer mounts we're not here all night so a wikia how how thin does it feel compared to the s3 um it doesn't feel all of that different I mean it doesn't feel that much thinner but this is something I noticed the first time I ever used it it feels just sturdier something about the s3 felt like I could just kind of like crush it uh the s4 does not feel that way okay all right uh you know it you know dinner but it has more to do with the try to hold it up C&C right so so some guy named Joe Hindy uneven who he is he says his note 2 was better than the s4 wiki and he says you're wrong well I say uh he's wrong but I don't know who he is so so yeah joe hindy is a summit you're an authority colleague of ours okay so we have another question for you okey is the unlocking lag glitched still there on the s4 it was there on the s2 s3 whenever you would go to unlock it real fast it would lag for a second before it shows the home screen are you seeing any lag when you go to unlock it before the home screen comes up well there's an animation um um see if you can see if we can all right so I try to kind of see there do it again a bit for those people for those people watching or listening wookies demonstrating the unlock right now that time I went quick but the first time it was definitely slower you know but is it slow or is it just because the animations point just the animation you see ya oh oh ooh there's a real it's the node 2 is really slow to wake but to turn all the cores only get all the process is done this I haven't ad off that's so we have a question about battery life and I'm not going to have him answer this yet because you can't tell battery life in a day so we'll get back to that here in the future i love to answer it but i can't yet is it laggy ER than the HTC one I have not really noticed that but at the same time I spent a lot more time with the one then i have with the s4 so far so I don't want to say anything already okay alright so I drew it early enters walking we have a lot of questions man okay all right so uh unlocking glitch I got that one all right so have you used it outside yet in sunlight I have not okay sorry about that we will get back to that really a guy the one to know about the screen in the sunlight ok so how steady do you have to hold it 24 crisps photo you guys know as well as I do whenever you're taking pictures from your smartphone if you don't have you know neurosurgeon hands you no they're blurry have you tried taking pictures with it you know do you have to buy right here and this is a great way to try because it's low light so we'll see minutes it's definitely going to look grainy but we'll see if it's maybe granny for low-light but yeah but you know nice little hands on here alive with Android 31 here chanson que that actually looks fairly steady and I was obvious you know you could tell I was not doing a whole lot to stay steady man I mean the there isn't really that kind of double in did you get when you're definitely movin ok all right what anyway ok so what can your s4 do that my note 2 can't ah be faster yeah oh and it has to be faster it has newer hardware better in an exact letter processor but besides that beside speed I mean uh I mean it does it does uh was going to say the gestures but then I realized oh wait a second you can do that pen gestures you know what I want to show you one more thing it can do that the note 2 cannot see how this looks normal won't you shay alright so adjacent thank you Jason's Minsky uh once he says I own the HTC One and the Galaxy Note 2 i've owned the entire galaxy phone line from one to three and the note 2 plus the note 10.1 we all know TouchWiz has felt how it's felt over the years a user experience wise you know some people think it's fella dated given all the updates and what they have done how do you actually feel when you use the new s4 do you do you have that feeling that Samsung you know did an awesome job you like wow nice job samsung or you use it and you're like oh it's just still regular dated TouchWiz like isn't it an updated touch was experience i think is what we're getting at here arm the way you asked it and the way the question was phrased are very different it definitely feels like an iteration of tusk TouchWiz I mean it's definitely TouchWiz it's not like going from HTC Sense 4+2 to HTC Sense 5 or it's a really different thing um it's clearly TouchWiz it's faster talked with it's less intrusive TouchWiz but it's still TouchWiz and TouchWiz is in my opinion just slow and laggy so you throw more more processing power at it it's going to speed up it you know would you agree with that yeah I definitely agree with that all right all right so okay Jason hope that answered your question um yeah wow we all done is there any new ones do do do so you get a GPS lock or what no I did I ass over and over okay all right so i think that's if we missed your question I'd apologize there's a bunch of them we have some more news to talk about so what I want you to do is go ahead and check out our YouTube channel there's a full review up vs video on there and as well as android authority com has tons of s for information and wiki what's are you going to be doing anything interesting with the s4 and in the future that our users and viewers should watch out for on yes I will I'm going to be working on a video actually starting tonight but I'm not going to say what it is I hope you're not already apparent your you got do that teaser okay teaser wiki's gonna do something awesome and video function in video form in video form yeah so get ready guys ok so moving on here so let's talk about some carrier stuff here yeah we just galaxy s4 doll things let's talk about carrier news for a second reisen they you know that they're definitely not the uncarrier but they do have a new device payment plan which is not really a new device payment plans been around for tablets i guess but but they anyways so the revised the vice payment plan allows you to basically subsidize a phone I'm sorry that's the wrong word subsidize it allows you to set up a payment plan for a for a phone over the course of a year has a two dollar finance charge you got to pay twenty four dollars to do it but in in the the only stipulation is is you pay it off in a year and the phone has to cost at least 350 bucks so you go to buy that new acts for off contract let's say it's 700 bucks you can spread at seven hundred bucks out over 12 payments not bad so you know what you so what I'm envisioning doing is selling your phone on likes wapa which is a great service by the way or you been getting you know your 100 200 bucks for it putting that is like a down payment to reduce your monthly payment on your new kind of subsidized you know device payment plan and there you go you get a new you get a new phone every year um so speaking of the galaxy s4 and Verizon the pre-order page went live today and device ships next month May thirtieth which is a full month after every other carrier gets theirs but you know cdma radios are tough so those are that and Verizon just wants to make you suffer word analysis Chris what's that as I have a more for your side I'm another thing to just think that their customers are gluttons for punishment lookie what carrier is the s4 on that you have arm or will it be on our will and won't be on a carrier this is kind of odd I know where the device came from yeah arm it came with no sim card so you're just going to do what you're not gonna do like call testing on yours can do Wi-Fi well I mean it's I'm good it's a gsm phone so i can use any gsm sim okay all right all right so let's stop talking about some some carrier stuff here and let's talk about some other news a sous cube Google TV device is now available four hundred and forty bucks we saw that back at CES it it's a completely skin and unique google TV experience the box looks like a cube so the you i had to look like a cube as well because you couldn't have one without the other apparently it's a completely unique 3d cube launcher so you know it's interesting um if I was a betting man I would wait a month because Google i/o is you know a few weeks away but if you have to have something 3d in Cuba shand squarish yeah it's a now available MLG promises a smartphone with a flexible Oh LED display this year in their earnings call so sometime before the end of the year which could be you know December but sometime before the end of the year they're gonna have a flexible display phone they said it will come in fourth quarter so that's yeah that's interesting what you guys think about that a phone with a flexible display from LG know if I like it I think I don't think it'd be best implemented in phones I think that many other different types of things that can be implemented into ah but phones not so much that's my personal opinion is haven't agreed I mean the only thing it would be useful for is if you not so much curved it but the technology would allow it to be less breakable that's the only advantage I have to me I think but then you have to worry about whether it's going to flex why you're actually using the phone if it's that you know less rigid elaborating what John said if the flexible phone allows it to not crack or break I will buy one in a heartbeat and I will you know negate everything every bad thing that I said about it because you know if you have a phone that is going to be you know unbreakable by dropping that's awesome mm-hmm um you know I kind of said we would talk about it when we were talking about other developer before we went to other talking about other devices but I got cut up and over questions and forgot to mention it Samsung Knox let's backtrack a little bit for those really don't know what Samsung Knox is it simply put its platform security um it does trust zone secure secure boot and it uses a Linux Android selinux SC access controls for the the colonel so it's the first commercial device to ship that uses android SE and then that's cool um it basically the the simplest explanation is is that it allows you to separate your normal Android apps and you know android framework and all that other cool stuff that you're doing on a personal level and allows it to put it and it puts a special container around your your business apps yours you know your integrity management your VPN your you know whatever single sign-on your business stuff so it's this is Knox is something for businesses knox's is what Samsung would go to a business and say hey look we have the security platform and we're the only people to have it we are good for business you use us in the enterprise because we can secure your devices and in an age where everybody is bring your own device because it's cheaper that way for enterprises to do bring your own device I'll have to buy everybody a separate phone and nobody wants to carry two phones or two tablets so we're in the age of BYOD so Knox is great i'm looking forward forward to the reviews of Knox I was hoping what kila would be able to do that here but apparently it's not going to be available in to adjust lie so what do you think about that walkie well I'm also disappointed that I will be able to check that out um at the same time I don't know that that's something I necessarily want to be in the hands of one specific software company but on the other hand just the fact that somebody's doing it and the fact that it's based on basically selinux is going to encourage other people to do the same thing and that's going to start to bring Android into being a more business friendly or Enterprise friendly sort of operating system for tablets or phones or whatever in the future and that's something I definitely want to see more of so I'm excited to see where that goes even though I'm still bummed out that I won't get to play with Knox immediately and see what it's going to do all right so let's talk about one more device here and then we'll move on for you run out of time um so HTC this is a pretty cool HTC's unlocked one model offers an LTE device that works on AT&T but it's not sold through AT&T that's something that has never been done before you know you've never been able to buy an LTE device without it coming from the carrier so that's got some support well it except for you know the nexus 4 which unofficially supports some places with the LTE but when I can talk about that because I really shouldn't even that shouldn't be happening so this is a HTC what the one is on something nobody else does not do yet that's cool that means that you can buy the unlock device using on AT&T you don't have to worry about carrier crap you don't have to worry about all their crap and their branding you can just you know that's awesome then you can use LTE because normally you know you just in the past you get stuck with the hspa+ so that's cool oh no let's talk or a big either it comes straight from eccie yeah you have to wait for them exactly since they're not you know branding it you don't have to wait for software updates to come from them you get them drink directly from HTC which is should mean faster up to speaking of updates uh last this past week was jelly bean all the things you know because it's been out since last june july so you know it's been out for 20 21 months or so so we might as well that's two years um yeah um nine months so let's uh let's start you know updating it now the motorola Photon Q on sprint got some jelly bean action which is great because now these guys can use google now and the better voice search and you get some butter you know so speaking of HTC in the 1s it I hate that name anyway so the one ass on it on tmobile finally got jelly bean Sony is getting it ready for the Xperia P the go in the xperia e dual the galaxy s relay on t-mobile's getting jelly bean t-mobile LG optimus l9 the verizon LG spectrum too so yeah we got all sorts of jelly bean and that's great because it's been available on AOSP since you know June dando June last year july yeah so yeah might as well updated it's only going on a year oh verizon also updated the resound and no jelly bean though so uh so we have any patent wars Dan's not here Dan's usually our patent war King Dan likes to be angry and hate on everybody throwing around patents the Dan isn't here so John is going to be Dan yeah the there's really only one big thing this week there was a big injunction not really against HTC it was between Nokia and STMicroelectronics and STM basically sold HTC the microphones for the for the one and ACC basically released a statement clarifying because the media just ran rampant with the information as if it's gonna you know result in some kind of HTC ban like last year saw basically the court rule was there might be an infringement on on stmicroelectronics part however HTC's blameless on the matter and it's all on stmicroelectronics to solve nokia has not obtained any of junctions any anywhere on the HTC HTC One itself in any country HTC themselves were not viewed by Nokia judgment against STM Stacy's HTC can continue to sell the one with the microphones that they've already purchased because they were purchased in good faith and you know beyond the HTC simply going to transition to an improved microphone design once they ruin of their own current inventory so uh you know stmicroelectronics I'm sure is going to get the hammer dropped on them but it's a pretty seamless transition for HTC and it's not going to affect their supply any ok now that wraps it up so Scott if you happen to not be listening to us where could you listen to us if you just 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