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welcome to android authority on air the original android show on google+ I'm dare cross I'm Scott Anderson and I'm gay Charlton and we are joined with special guest Francisco Frank who you may recognize from various apps on the Play Store as well as kernels for android or xda-developers Francisco thank you for joining us hi guys thanks for having me if you're a fan of the show you may recall we actually had Francisco Frank on here about a year ago he was on the fifth episode of the show so it's it's been a while since we had him on here last time he was on here with us we talked about his ever increasingly popular kernel which I called franco.kernel and then found out that I was pronouncing his last name incorrectly it's just now and we had a nice laugh laugh about it and we also talked about android 4.0 point for because it had just came out so a lot has changed since android 4.0 point 4 and the original franco.kernel updater app since then he has added a free addition to his app which we'll talk about here a little bit he has added support for more devices more kernels obviously has new devices have come out more the past year um he has added a nexus 4 display control separate app as well as a simple CPU it monitor extension for dashclock widget so if you're on Android 4.2 in your rock and dashclock widget because everybody should be using that because it's awesome I should check out his his extension for it and he also has a simple reboot app if you're wrong that you're running doesn't have a reboot bootloader and recovery so stuff like that so Francisco once again welcome to the show it's great to have you here we have a bunch of questions lined up for you and those of you that are watching live or listening live there on google+ or youtube if you have any questions about any of his apps um why he's awesome or anything like that feel free to go ahead and drop a comment and we will be watching for those comments and we'll add the question to the cube so uh feel free to ask away yeah please do okay so starting off uh what devices do you support for your cuddles um I know it's a list since the beginning or just only now corelle how about now okay so now as a Galaxy Nexus Nexus for the nexus 10 and the Nexus 7 so everything inside the Google ecosystem basically then Nexus yeah okay um what what are some of your steps that you go through when you conceptualize a nap like how does it come to be oh that's a hard question because I haven't made that many apps um yeah made one a while so I guess let's say why why did you get into developing your most popular app is obviously your Colonel updater app so what why did you decide to to to update their to to add that and you know continue adding features to it and so forth um probably because I wanted people to flash the Colonel's easily without the problem of rebooting to the floater or going to distribute recovery so they just one click two clicks most and done and most people just don't go over to XDA developers to check if I have a new version and they can just open an app and see whoa a generic version so let's one click and have it see the change log there and asshole free and you I right now it's great but it's been evolving for a while but try to follow the Google guidelines so it's easy for everyone even geek or non-geek so and it helps a lot people to manage their their actual colonel options because I've been adding stuff for for a while and all my other vices and it's kind of hard to keep track of all the other paths to go geek mode and shell and type it all even I don't know anything every path from my out of my head so using the app works and people like it for that because it's just easy and it works ok I just wanted something that people will recognize that be helpful and they would actually use it every day ok and I use it every day so I'm my main customer myself I made it for myself than the other people enjoying what I like to do so that's probably the biggest reason making stuff that I would leave first and then give it out for free or or not so depending on them I want to work out ok um I believe I remember what your favorite device was when we last spoke now that you know new devices have been released what's your daily driver what's your go-to device oh my god i'm not sure i can say what what's my deal with driver it's not secret stuff with that I better not say it but well I remember talking about the galaxy s3 year ago when you were last on the show and you said if i remember correctly it was quote-unquote you had a bunch of problems with that device you and about other people it's not very developer-friendly anyway but my my day with driver it's the nexus for it the best advice ever I've ever used I'm very happy with it and I I saw the galaxy s4 today and besides the awesome screen I'm not going to change because I was google's experience and i use build quality that's iphone like the nexus 4 and just works in my opinion and I kind of like building code for for this chip because cocom it's big free free open source and so the code is good it's clean for a lot a Qualcomm squad has gotten a lot better has 18 months or so yeah I believe so they're getting bare in CODIS well that documented the comments are extensively documented and it's easy to go around and change it and make it better if I want to um I'm sure we go down to change this sometime soon it is okay um another question uh do you plan on I know that you make apps for rooted devices and for like a specific demographic do you plan on making any apps for the general public something that doesn't require root something that anybody really on any device could download and use from yeah probably right now I don't have any any plan but I've been thinking and thats might be might be go for the next six months for maybe six months one year we'll see what happens when and I'm done with my training or the place order I mean or the moment after that I'll have time for for the loving something out of the Nexus range or all of the routine Colonel stuff because that's good experimental for it I think I know the answer no I'm so sorry yeah no that's and that's not its I'm not saying it's not gonna happen with its ninety ninety nine percent on it's not going to anything I'm if somebody buys your device if someone gives me the device like okay I give you this can you do it I would do it but I'm not going to waste my own resources for something I when I won't use first I want to enjoy a second and that I don't have any particularly enthusiastic yeah yeah I'd have I do against the offer to let people buy one for you because people will end up taking you up on that offer and then you'll end up supporting 25 devices and burn it out yeah it's more having their I had six devices with at some point and it's it's impossible and and that time I was doing only this of my wife and I decided okay it's impossible it's very hard and some how I would forget that one and because it's really hard even now the nexus 10 at the moment it is the one I've been working less because I enjoyed it so much and haven't need to change stuff there and yeah I don't want able to get upset with me because I just stopped supporting something so better not to support then after then actually drop it and I did that I had to drop for two devices and that wasn't very funny and people of course they get mad but I'm human yeah that I see I'm human I can do it everything it's very hard yeah another question from YouTube regarding the hot plug the recent hot-plug implementation what is the current development on it what are their plans to improve it what okay general yeah I'll give a general general thing so almost everyone knows but Qualcomm devices she put something called MP decision it's like a user first binary the takes care of that uses the power hole and the socket interface to communicate with the colonel in user space and well it kind of works it divides it's very smooth but i think the car management is poorly done off goes online i'll find too much for no reason and at that same time it manages the frequency of the cpu we touch the screen goes to maximum you the other cars go up so you get throttled reason you can see all the reduces nexus for all the rivers hello he's getting hot and the benchmarks really low because of the minute that so that aside i used something else I used the outflow drivers from a guy called will for a while but I wasn't very happy with it and I like one month ago I decide to write my own from scratch and my what I want basically it is maximum you I smoothness basically just making at least two course online and walking them up until the interactivity is done so you still have all your smooth and that's connected to the interactive governor I made some hooks around so the interactive tunable scale scale based on load automatically so that's kind of awesome and it locks the frequency speed to a certain level as well so and then if the load is really big for some samples it points out for course and these they'll keep using the four course until that what it's done for simple few gaming using MP decision from coke on it goes online offline too much and I have a very smooth experience or you don't and now there's a bunch of people that run tests for me on the threads on XDA developers and we got more than five frames per second increase on some games compared to more stock experience and gangs like beach buggy blitz or whatever the name is and are five frames per second increase six GTA GTA rod so at this point I'm very happy with it battery life is great everyone is happy it's very configurable you can change all the thresholds for all the levels so I marry have with this right now my goal from here is add some thermal throttling capabilities of the driver because right now I'm only decreasing the speed of the CPU if the gets hot but of course they're online they'll keep online so what I'm going to do now is take two out but don't decrease the Freak we see that much so that keeps the balance and the games benefit more from actual frequencies and from course online so that you'll probably have a little bit well I have a few ideas about what frequencies I want the CPUs to jump in when they go on one instead of going from the minimum to somebody else so active reading the code and I'll eventually find something that can be improved so those are the two two things I'm I'm more into it I got a lot of fourth feedback from the community all the time so I of that I think everybody feelings anyone's watching and I was that so that's constructive criticism am always open for that all the time and I read I read everything so I am power mode presets for the nexus 4 when are they coming similar very sooner than I trust him okay I was always kind of waiting for for this milestone to come which count came the four days ago probably and I was waiting for that and that comes for the neck I'm going to make them just for the Nexus 7 and the make nexus 4 really soon like a few days from now very baby in the weekend after the weekend so that's yeah and I'm going to change all that interface sooner as well because he needs to be more powerful so okay and then for your um your uh there's a feature called system monitor it's basically a nap disintegrated you want to talk a little bit about that sure i'll be very happy to talk about so my best friend called christian he decided to make a an app called system monitor to actually monitor every thing about your device in the awesome looking UI using you in the new guidelines from google and since i'm friends with him and they decided to make a free app i decided to be talked and I integrated the free part on my app so that people would have the benefit of enjoying the free part on my app and if they're like that every 5-6 times they would open open that option I would open the dialogue there and say look at this half is from that developer if you like it you can purchase it so it's like a trade back but I'm very interesting you know idea cuz you're obviously a successful you know developer I'd like to I'll call you that I'll go out you know and i'll put my neck out there and say that you know you're doing a hell of a job in making kernels and then your updater app so you're giving new little guys you know that are just getting in in to developing or that aren't well known a chance to have to have access to a lot of a lot of people you know that that's awesome you don't really see that I can't think of can't that be done anywhere before well that was my big goal and I wanted to get him known because i love the app I I think everybody should buy it I use it every day for the features some features I I suggested to him and hit although job anyway but some features we kind of talked so oh it's good that people get to know the app I can show you a bit of the app if that's okay yeah yeah go ahead and bring it up here on your tab at all focuses crazily there this is my my nexus 4 so you can see it's monitoring all the four cores three are online so you can see all the load the graphics here so this is the full full I by the way so those of you that are watching later or listening on soundcloud and aren't actually watching live he's actually demonstrating right now on screen what what the system monitor app actually looks like and how it functions yeah so this is the full app you see on top of everything there's a small window there that's the something i want to call fine monkey but the real neighborhoods it's very much just the stupid Emma I figured one day and stick between us but that real name for it is fine monster it's like all the graphics and about the CPUs and they go online offline so below it's at the rare manager that Iran monitor this is the network or you why I countries from here I 0 dis graphics is she this is network and this is the top applicants you can see it's a bunch of stuff you can see here besides this is also battery prediction great it's a great algorithm there's so many stuff that you monitor your device that everybody would be very dump not buy this I'm sorry it's a very full featured app right so so I have a question for you Francisco so you're obviously doing something that i think is pretty noteworthy pretty revolutionary because yeah I don't see it done a lot you're giving a new developer a chance to reach a lot of people are you going to extend that offer in the future to other developers and if so how can somebody enroll in this new program how can someone contact you to do this Oh for hit me an email and we can talk about that surely if that works for me I don't want to sound selfish but of course it has to work to me oh yeah make sense yes it's not so if someone pitches you like an angry birds clone you know you may not include it you know yeah sure of course the Hat if that works for me it ends for my users I mean when I talk about me to my users if the talk it's for source for them it's something we can work out like I worked out with in which way does it was like two minutes conversation and we were done but anyway if you had someone wants to and thinks it's useful for everybody in I can help with that for mini melon okay we have a bunch of additional YouTube comments and we're going to put those on hold for a little bit we're not ignoring them live and pinned here in the queue we'll get back to him a little bit so you can still go and ask any question you want to hit up Francisco for but I have a question for him about developing and in general you know you've been you know at least a year maybe longer you know you've been a little bit more about developing a free Android you know app absent and kernels so you're you're were versed in how Android works where do you see Android going and then in the future you know what where is it where where do you see it going changing in and taking on you know new devices new shapes and forms that's an interesting question I haven't thought about it um I think it will be more person or Intel or social oriented if you see all the news from the past that messager battle stuff for example I know that the next version you'll have something called a game center as well so something like I'd iOS so I haven't seen seen it but I know it's going to come so yeah we go freely so well so what about could you see yourself you know there's rumors that a SmartWatch from google is going to be that Google's working on a SmartWatch let's say that that that that is true and they put out a watch because you in let's say it's open for developers to hack and slash a kernel for could you see yourself developing in kernel for that or maybe Google glass and wearable tech would you consider doing that in the future if there's avenues became available well I must refer messing with Colonel those of us it's intelligent because you want them to work all the time you're not actually going to debug stuff on the Google glass or debug stuff from your want him to work so I trust Google will do their good job making kernels for them and I'm not so sure I would want to mess with that because we want to see your time when your watch and we don't want you to reboot so I exited I see myself making making making apps for them but about having your phone beyond stables okay is what you're saying sure yeah I got on other phones yeah doesn't mean doesn't mean it's unstable but but it can happen yeah it's good I'd rather have my phone crash than my igoogle last and I'm driving I'm seeing the direction to go to in a further and wants that burger so much that it's true I don't know where I am when they get that things are scratched that took me funny no ever done no that's that's my take on but that's absurd okay i click questions um shout out i'm a nexus guy i have nexus 4 using your latest 134 colonel it loves it HTC one getting the colonel no sono okay oh you see for me nor never would you ever consider the ceilings another one I would you ever consider sony support in the future I haven't but I like well the way they're going right now okay I like the latest one the Z maybe this is a yeah yeah it's it's not there yet but you know I can hear if they keep doing what they're doing if I like the device sure somebody wants to know the name of the app that you just showed us it's called system monitor just system monitor yeah really just offers name is Christian glutes golder yeah exactly that yeah okay are you going to Google i/o unfortunately no I couldn't get a ticket Darren are you going you didn't buy one in the like 60 seconds that were on sale I couldn't it was impossible yeah I decide to get 19 was unable to as well but that's okay I I will spend my money elsewhere on glass here hopefully in a few weeks never I get my invitation email and but i'll be going to the BBQ you you you know you're supposed to go the big Android BBQ last year my friend and you living a clean because of the the visa busters yeah I know but hey you know what you you're now in the u.s. you're already here you don't have to worry about any that crap true getting mr. in the States getting her how does a lot easier so I will so I will drink beer with you a lil BBQ I know about android stuff it's not all about drinking beer no it's actually all about drinking beer yeah that's even better alright so let's talk let's put Franco all the things on hold for a little bit if we have some time at the end we'll come back and hit him up with some questions about and development his apps kernel development they've been talked about system monitor for another bit but let's say we want some Android ecosystem stuff Dan yeah so uh IDC who's a company that does a lot of different statistics reporting on industry trends put together the latest numbers for the three months of 2013 so that's q1 2013 for tablet shipments and they're estimating that just under 50 million 49.2 million tablets shipped there is this us or worldwide I still no statistics though I don't know I think those are just us statistics I'm gonna go out on a limb I honestly don't know that's yeah they seem low for global uh but the big news there is that twenty seven point eight million of those were Android devices and only nineteen point five million i patch it really doesn't matter if it's us or global we really care about the percentage of here like it did yeah that's true so Android raked in fifty six and a half percent of the market compared to apples 39.6 compared to the first quarter of last year where those numbers were almost exactly the opposite with Android getting 39.4 a nap while getting 58.1 so the tides have really shifted like Davis it you know from a year ago where Android you know arrow was it you know almost 40% and now apples almost 40% I mean it's that that's amazing in a year turnaround time how much they grew yeah no that's that's an incredible growth by Android meanwhile the others category which I had to assume includes windows but probably other do uh went from one-and-a-half percent last year to a massive three-point-nine percent this year so hey that includes the blackberry value what that thing is called yeah this library whatever it was the HP TouchPad the different photos RT tablets for 2013 but not so much for last year's numbers but yeah this means that really Microsoft really is selling some of those things yeah or so perfect at least one or two of them uh you know what then um when these numbers came out then a lot of people were so when a lot of the one of these numbers came out of a bunch of blogs in Silicon Valley and tech blogs we're saying hey look samsung lost to Apple Apple sold more devices in San and Samsung they weren't saying that Android was sitting at fifty-six percent in iOS was a 39 they looked at the actual manufacturer selling these device that's because a lot of the writers are on the payroll of Apple still Apple is notorious for paying bloggers to write favorable about Apple commentary so when something is not favorable for Apple like oh god we lost twenty-five percent of the market in a year ah so the story becomes oh yeah but you're still beating samsung so it's totally fine yeah typical pro apple media yes so what Francisco what do you think about the tablet market share and Android you know gaining 25% he's seeing a lot of new users for the nexus 7 Nexus 10 downloading your Colonel fish sure um they have been doing that but well I have the two nexuses I still think the iPad as an edge over android because I'm still not buying the UI that Google is made for for tablets it's not optimized enough in my opinion and while I don't use my iPad anymore because i use my nexus 10 I think Apple still has to be thing over over talat and iOS lovers or Android lovers can see whatever they want that is the vice cause you know a little bit more too maybe that's why it's gaining twenty-five percent you know the UI might not be a hundred percent but when you the price helps but the Prairie helps the nexus 7 press helps a lot then people which is it but it's easy to to buy one to trash it and be found it and you if you lose it it's okay it's chip if you lose a ipad oops yeah yeah do you think that the edge that you see in the ipad versus the android tablets do you think that's inherent to the operating system or do you think its ecosystem based I think it's all bit of both to be honest I think at the end hardware especially on an iPad I think it has open over even the nexus 10 GPU struggles a lot to make that happen that a big resolution to repair the chip in the nexus 10 it's kind of unimpressive it's not that bad I still I think they should have gone to a different GPU and like a good like I thought the one found for the ipad 4 could have got there grab together and made a cortex a8 their team when they plan to about eight months earlier than that yeah but the software I think end road is to UM prepares for towel test is it true it is my opinion yeah so alright so so let's uh let's see maybe if Android is you know unprepared for tablets maybe we'll find out some new stuff at Google i/o which is in two weeks and there's a lot of speculation right now you know are we gonna see Android 4.3 when I see babble know there's there's you know we're going to see something awesome coming with chrome and Android but I'm going to connect some dots for everybody here I'm going to draw some lines and throw some stuff at a board and see what happens so looking back over all right wait are you gonna pull a samsung yeah bro 900 every idea ever had I'm not gonna give everybody like 50 different ideas and be like I'll see look i called it you know i'm gonna give him i'm gonna give my one speculation on something I think is coming and we'll see if i'm right or wrong here in two weeks so we know that android gaming a game center was found in the myglass android app a couple weeks ago who thanks to a tear down by android police we saw an android game center we saw was going to do all these things that a game center should have okay so that there's your first dot now let's backtrack to about a year ago when google gain or when google plus games and chrome games were being talked about a lot the one of the guys in charge of the project said you know a year from now so or something along the lines of this we're not going to talk about android games and chrome games and google+ games we're just going to talk about Google games so we said oh look one day out you know we're games are going to be unified but you know it was just you know off the top of his head type thing you know there was no date there was no firm saying we are definitely doing this but it's like some day this might happen now looking at looking back a few weeks ago maybe a month or so ago maybe more not one hundred percent sure on the time frame but remember those that maze game in the race game where you could hold up your android phone or your android tablet open up chrome go to a special URL and then you could go to a special URL on your desktop computer or laptop and you could use your android devices as a game controller and you could control your the maze you control the the characters running the race riding the bike swimming and so forth so you used your your phone as a gaming controller and your TV or your monitor was the big screen and you say that there was chrome gaming and it was a chrome experiment now it was all well and good it was all fun and it was neat but it you know it wasn't it you know it's super super exciting it was just something thrown together to make people say oh wow that's cool but what if it was testing the functionality of using android using your phone using your tablet as a game controller now google has done things like this before those of you watching on google+ right now remember when hang out mustaches first came out and everyone thought they were the coolest things ever and then for some unknown reason two months after hangout mustaches came out and everybody used them we got facial recognition on Google+ photos huh and I remember making a comment saying hey thank you hang out mustaches and I remember getting that comment plus 1 by few Googlers you know and goog-411 for years was was used and given away for free we know that is why google has a better voice recognition system than Apple does then Siri because they date a mind speech for in use our speech for years get building up their system so Google does these cool little things for free all the time that you know and they turn into something big now ingress ingress ingress is in ingress is a game that's fun but it's also data mining everything we're walking around past 2mon to monuments we're walking around at skin and Wi-Fi networks it's data mining everything so ingress is doing something more than more than just a game so my point is is that Google does this stuff all the time it wouldn't put it past you know them too I wouldn't put it past them to do this anyways back to my conspiracy theory Google i/o this year there's a lot of game stuff I mean there's just a lot of gaming going on talking about a lot of games one of the major sessions is called hey look what we did with web technology we build a mat an MMO a massively multiplayer online game with web technology you know as a musical what's interesting to have it Google i/o so there's a lot of gaming stuff happening put all that gaming stuff happening that we already know is coming and then speculated to come and then coming at some point and then we say well you know competitors are putting out all these little HDMI game that are you know game sticks or who yes putting out a gamecube in in nvidia so all these companies are using android for gaming and google isn't doing it you know and Google hasn't said yes we were doing this or yes we're we're aware that this can be done now there's the Google TV but people don't use that to gain and Google TV quite frankly hasn't been a hit it hasn't been it hasn't sold 100 million devices but you know what sells 100 million devices game consoles do so Xbox please I I think I think that we're going to see call it a gaming stick caught and it doesn't really matter what it is if it's a sticker it's a little cube it does a little console I don't care what the form factor is I think we're going to see a gaming device a piece of hardware be released and it's it's going to be it's going to be you know Google's answer to what Samsung is putting it out there with her they're connected TV you know it's going to be their answer to yeah it's going to be their answer to all the other little companies that no one's ever heard of putting out hdmi tix for Android TV so I could be crazy I could be wrong but I make a bet on this I said I really think that we're going to see a google gaming system it's going to be a piece of hardware and it's going to come out at i/o so that's that's going to be how Google takes over the living room it's not going to be with Google TV Google is going to take over the living room and compete with xbox xbox foothold in the living room and they're going to do that with with Android another tidbit a google TV developer on this on the on a Google TV session description it's called Android on your TV and in the session and says something along the lines of common see what's come and see the new Google TV platform or come and see the new platform for Google TV so they're talking about something new it's not google TV they're talking about something new it's it's it's miracast well said it could be miracast but you said something big is going to happen around games and it's going to be hardware so miracast very well could be it we're very well we miracast they could be putting out a dongle you know in it your custom yeah so bored of it yes all right so close are interrupting no no you you think it's gonna be a mirac a stove ice um a dongle we're cast yeah yeah and let's go going I kinda seem going for something even bigger right I think you're right probably about most the gaming and the implications of all of that but I see that is just being one piece of the puzzle not the whole puzzle in looking at what they did last year with the Nexus Q and they're really just kind of trying to push the old Android at home type you know thing I would agree with Derek and they will support everything on top of that game center that they've been no me that's that's my boy yes it's gonna be you know a full systems at a media center a home it's going to be doing your music streaming your video streaming and gaming from your next to the life exactly exactly your gift using that yet yes yes yeah so so let's see let's see if our conspiracy theory is right I'd like to bet on it but you know we don't we don't need to gamble on air but maybe maybe off air will set up a camel all right so so let's talk about some apps you know we'll see what happens at Google I own two weeks when we cover that but for now let's move on to some apps this week such as okay with mr. kind of quick wickets with the apps the carbon the backup app data got renamed to helium after a cease and desist from Carbonite the file backup company through small-time dev I would I assume that it would be easier to get out of the way rather than trying to back up the name so yeah got changed um level of us coming out on the periodic tables is called carbon so I don't know how you can yeah I don't know beautiful widgets released a basic functionality app allows you to have a free version which is nice pretty cool I'm asked a lot it like three years ago what set sucks for all the people who bought it like three years ago no its basic functionality is not like everything no I know and then a yahoo bought Astrid the to-do app that is very popular and it's going to be shutting down so these are those premium users I'm sorry and then we got microsoft released an android app that repairs you too from switching to a windows phone pretty much by lying to you um yeah that's an interesting app um Chrome Beta got updated a verizon cloud Derek you want to elaborate that a verizon cloud you know is interesting um how well they're doing it to compete with AT&T who already has a backup cloud you know that that's why they're doing it they're giving you five hundred Meg of free space so you can backup files your contacts your texts your phone call history you know music video pretty much almost everything you can back up already with Android except for your call history unless you're using a google voice and your text unless you're using google voice but yeah um i think it's silly to duplicate what's already available you know especially when it's 500 Meg but whatever if it floats their boat i keep my data with google why I see it silly but they're not doing it to compete with Google they're not doing it to be like hey look me too no they're doing it so they can take advantage of uneducated customers that's exactly what they're going but you know hey here is to take advantage of their customers no no they're not doing it take advantage of their customers it would be actually been awarded they're doing it to make money because they know that people will buy it so that's what a company does right way of taking advantage of their cost because Google doesn't go out there and advertise hey look back up infinite contacts backup well back up all of your 20,000 songs they don't whenever you install android forget your first android phone it doesn't say hey look at the five gig of storage you get you know with your google down just for having a google account you get 10 gigabytes of email storage 25 or 20,000 songs five gigabytes of drive storage yes no text alert if you want go to photo storage yeah so if give exactly photo storage on google+ as long as it's not over 2048 x 2048 you get unlimited photo storage if you if its public on google+ i think it's open it if it's only oh no no no unit time limited whatever you want as much as you want yeah and so come on that still dovetails into picasa which is limited but is gonna die and they're gonna yeah yeah I mean you can't even go to the link like it's nowhere to be found I'll take it down well no it's hard to get to whoa we'll get to that later so so yeah so apps did we talk about switch to Windows Phone you at anybody installed anybody doing it don't do that that's all do that yeah yeah so uh Microsoft I mean I understand what day you know that no i don't i can't we use them my way into that one they're desperate I think it's hilarious and in their desperate for customers so feel free to installed and see the six apps that are compatible with Windows Phone I have a name for Microsoft that usually call it but I'm not sure I'm allowed to say 5 i'll go ahead and say it live will Scott Oh bleep it out it's micro that's yeah it all right so uh let's talk about some advices Scott quick question from YouTube apple support future for what colonel yeah that can't be done for Apple the up fine sighs oh I said Apple oh yeah oppo well I don't have the device send me advice and the car a similar to the nexus worse anyone no work on it there you go you heard it here showtimes hablo father father yes for needs an oppo 55 and no HTC one I don't give me that time he will return that it so Scotty hit us up with some device infos uh google files of patent for smartwatch with touch pads on the side wireless transceiver display processor to touch pads on the side bezel pinch zoom stretch possibly scrolling I really hope they're just filing for patents related to smartwatches with the intention of sitting on them and screwing Apple I hope they don't actually I think they're stupid I hope they get the patents just to screw they but they don't do that they don't patently I don't a funny thing about the galaxy s4 so spanish tennis player a tennis star David Ferrer I said posted on Twitter I'm so happy with my new galaxy s4 setting up s health on my new galaxy s4 to help me with training funny thing is it was posted from twitter from hype for iphone oops and well in the big kicker is is that Samsung is a sponsor of the Madrid Open where they were playing so now looking now it's a big that was a big PR fail samsung who's also under investigation for paying people to say bad things somebody now get caught paying people to tweet about nice things about the escort from an iphone i play tennis for 10 years and for real and that those guys claim clean mountains as a training process they don't need LPS else or x 0 or help them with their training or I ask I elf whatever they stupid whatever letter they want to put in front of Israel I just see this no I don't know uh let's talk about some google glass news because that's the latest craze and last latest hype so there's a rumored twitter app coming twitter for glass a few posts were found to be similar how you could see you know twitter for iphone where you can see the client that people were using on Twitter so we saw some posts show up with twitter for glass and then after everybody made a big stink about it the post were deleted so nothing says confirmed like petition lyst yeah you know i don't understand why companies don't just leave this up there you know as soon as you delete it then you know it's real but but hey you know what in case it was accidentally deleted and twitter for glass is not real that's okay a talented developer has tweet glass or glass tweet sorry a glass tweet which does the same thing it's just not official it allows you to post from your timeline to Twitter just like a week from now when Twitter changes the API and breaks the app no yeah or until it gets a hundred thousand installs like Falcon pro and then you can't get any more yeah um so we know that glass is running Android rights running android 4.0 point for really run the answer yep it's running Android 4.1 for ice cream sandwich so there's some neat things you can do with that such as enable a DB and then sideload apps well sandwich I said ice cream sandwich yep surgery so a a developer decided to publish an app called bulletproof and what it is it's a lock screen for glass because right now glass doesn't have any type of isn't there's no way to lock it so if I had glass sitting on my desk and somebody came into my office and picked it up and put it on they would just be able to start looking at my personal timeline yeah you know which you know I mean that you're a lot of people going to have glass on their head all the time but still yes tons yeah so it's still you know it should have a way to lock so somebody can't look at your personal information now there's a rumor that Google's that you know coming out with some type of lock themselves maybe it is you know some type of a speech recognition or something either way something's something's coming but in the meantime a developer uh put out an app called bulletproof where it looks like the android ICS or jelly bean lockscreen it's actually not based off that he wrote it himself it's all coated from the ground up and you were you can swipe on the touchpad left and right is a gesture or you can tap the touchpad and so you can calibrate you set up how many swipes you know if you want to do you know like left-right left-right tap tap try to do the konami code or something i don't know but uh you can you can configure your own tap and it is pretty cool so you want you had once you have your your tap configured you you you turn on head on detection if you didn't already so the first time you pick it up and you put it on your head it says hey look it's now on the head it turns on it it asks you for your lock screen code you swipe and tap you get off the lock screen and then it doesn't ask you for it again it's on your head it won't ask you for it again until you take glass off and then go to put it back on so it knows once it knows when you take glass off because of head on detection so it's actually really cool but most people are going to install that because you have to install by atb and not it but chances are the people that have glass right now our developers and savvy enough to do so um we had talked about i believe last week briefly that they doing an APK decompile and looking at the code i was able to see that the glass app glass gestures done EPK when I decompiled it last week I saw that it had wink gestures in there and there is all sorts of code for setting up wink gestures and for blinking or winking to take a picture and you know how to calibrate it and how to do all sorts of stuff wit with winking and well Mike being the talented developer that he is he went out and develop twinkie which Winky is just an app that you once again you sideload by atb and all it does is enable the native code that is in glass already for winking to take a picture and it's pretty cool you don't glass doesn't need to be on right now to take a picture you have to holding the camera button you have to tap it or that's option one you have to tap it and then say ok glass take a picture or you have to you know do your head wake you flick back to wake up glass then you say ok glass take a picture which is still a hell of a lot better than reaching my hand in my pocket pulled out my smartphone doing my unlock pattern finding the camera app you know so that's still awesome but winking is instant you know you you you wink boom you take a picture and glass doesn't even have to be turned on it's just on your head so the screen can be off and you wink and boom you take a picture that's completely hands-free and it's instant versus three seconds to you know but it's good take a picture every time I plate no no glass act it actually has a whole bunch of a whole bunch of code in it a really high performance co2 to actually look when you're actually doing a facial scrub when you're actually scrunching your eye closed not just a blank and it's based on time lengths and everything it's really sophisticated so it mean it from from what Mike was saying it's it yeah it's not going to you know confuse just a little like maybe a bug in your eye you're going like that it's not gonna it's not going to do that it's not going to take pictures then you have to really you know maybe close your eye for a second so you have to do the scrunch so it's very cool obviously I don't have glass haven't tried it but I've seen Mike's demo video and and uh I think it's awesome okay so this is a next android version it's as far as like her there it's going to be full of the gesture stuff like just what you just extra scratch that that's neat if so you know if there's going to be all sorts of gestures coming to mainline Android yeah it's it's coming so well very cool right so we couldn't help that well good I'll take that is it unconfirmed report by from one Frank by someone who's by someone anonymous that is not on the show right now um alright so let's talk about some root and rom and stuff real quick we'll try to wrap up here we have about five minutes or so left so the HTC one wil wheaton everybody knows own you know Wesley Crusher a big big geek superhero I guess he was having problems last night routing his HTC one because it's wallets an HTC phone and they're a pain in the butt so he was able to successfully unlock the bootloader but he couldn't mount the partitions in recovery to push super user data to actually do the actual routing he eventually got pissed off and gave up in couche being the awesome guy that he is came out with a special version of the HTC One recovery called wil wheaton recovery what it does is well if you can get the recovery flashed it'll root your phone for you you don't have to worry about finding the partition or pushing super user so it's a limited edition only for the t-mobile HTC One and AT&T T 1 it reaches your phone if you're not rooted so we flashed recovery you boot the recovery you select reboot from the menu and whenever you go to reboot it says hey you're not rooted yet do you want me to automatically read this for you and it does it and there's a picture of young Wesley Crusher in the background I think that's pretty cool um so uh remember see I think if you're havin that much trouble rooting your phone you probably ought not oh he you know he said that he you know when he was how the problems he was having it made him miss his uh Galaxy Nexus because that was a lot more of a friendly device which is probably true so speaking of developer friendly devices remember up a few weeks back we found out that cyanogenmod wasn't gonna support the galaxy s4 um no we found out that one developer didn't want to buy the galaxy s4 and then bloggers around the world blogspam saying cyanogenmod is not supporting the galaxy s4 when in fact was just one dude you know it was me well maybe a couple people on his own team hack song a couple people said they aren't going to do it because it's a pain in the butt and they're not doing it but that doesn't mean the snapdragon version isn't going to be supported and that doesn't mean that you know sighs and what isn't three or four people yeah there's a greater 40 people on their team yeah so Steve Kondik AKA cyanogen posted on google+ an image of CM 10.1 running on the galaxy s4 already but it's not but you know he titled it not supported so uh take that with a grain of salt so yes it is good there san jamar gonna support it obviously i mean it it's running cm 10.1 right now so maybe the international version maybe the octave isn't going to support it maybe you know you can forget that one that's for sure you don't think you think that's a definite they won't they won't work on Paxton's again trust me is not a big fan of them anyway but uh uh Dana Oh entropy entropy AKA Andrew Dodd is extensively talked on Google+ my posts about this and basically saying that yeah it's a big pain in the ass and he doesn't want to touch it so I agree if you've heard the same thing the other one they won't do it this is it it's too painful it's not getting better and you know what he basically basically said that Samsung puts out code that says one thing and then it doesn't match their the compiled binaries like they're not there there's a disconnect somewhere no they put out code they can't compile it does match wits in the device HTC does a lot of us to wil wheaton is an alpha geek i like that comment everybody knows Wil Wheaton cuz we all love them you know well however long ago up next generation was on TV I know I did I thought it was I thought it was awesome but uh so any more questions for our man Francisco hear about anything you want to ask him what's his favorite color you know go ahead and ask him he'll answer no what's your favorite color I don't know okay good answer good answer I don't know the answer ah maybe the correct answer should have been what's the hex code for I for like hollow blue like what's it yes that's what you should be 4i v5e five I think there you go there you go maybe I missed one or two something that yeah it's close yeah yeah this close to that all right well uh real quick 30 seconds of patent news dan go so the judge in the microsoft p motorola case did something rather unprecedented and set a friend wait arbitrarily no other judges ever done that before certainly not in the district court level in addition to that this is the same judge who overruled a german court ruling because apparently a judge in seattle has that kind of authority um and is also basing his entire ruling on the established practices for patents that are part of licensed patent pools the only problem is the patents in at issue in this case aren't part of a patent pool so his entire legal basis is irrelevant ah in more ridiculous patent there's judge koh in the Apple v samsung case has ordered a new trial for the damages and set the date it's gonna be later this year they're going to try and keep it short two to three days and she brought all kinds of restrictions on both sides um though she's leaving an option for samsung to appeal her decision again if the USPTO makes a final decision on Apple's patents validity between now that the only problem there is the USPTO already made its final decision Apple can appeal that decision but their last order is final that's why they called it their final judgment okay so basically she's saying oh well we are only going to bother you know going back and waiting if the USPTO comes out between now and that and says yes these are definitely invalid even though apple says otherwise problem is the USPTO could just as easily not care when Apple submits their appeal had never bother looking at it their invalidity still stands so apparently being a judge in America doesn't actually require you to understand American law well we know that there's there's always heat in trouble surrounding patent laws and patent so I'm sure it's not going to get better until it is plenty of intelligent judges like Posner or I can't remember the name of the judge was on the judge posture I like him yeah he took the time to learn Java because the case was about Java like hood man maybe I should actually have a clue what all of these people are talking about while I'm sitting up your other batch yeah yeah there are good judges out there but then there's other ones like this you just totally make crap up as they go along that's obviously not legal and then say oh no we are gonna wait until the appeals court because then I'd have to admit the fact that I've made a ton of decisions that are obviously going to get tossed on a deal to crazy world out there yeah okay well uh Scott won't you do your thing I uh you guys watching us on YouTube do like us want to subscribe go ahead if you guys don't want to watch us because you don't want to use the bandwidth or you just 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i/o and we'll talk about talk about if we were right or wrong yeah we'll be you'll be talking about 510 you'll see Scott this is 30 a row we have had a comment to make your damn guys the comment i saw the comment every week we get a comment to make your bed Oh keep saying you're gonna do it I know I'm guessing on soundcloud right now I envy you you don't have to look at his messy bed for an hour hey I will not make it for next time alright Francisco Frank thank you again for coming we loved having you Dan to pleasure Scott make a damn bed good I guys see