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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm dare cross and I'm Dan Charlton and I'm Johnathan Franklin welcome to our i/o 2013 recap of at least the last two days we have a whole bunch of information to go over all sorts of awesome cool stuff we found out such as some cuoco system numbers nine hundred million activations some things for developers because this year's i/o is all about Google services and their API and things they can do without operating Android we found out things about maps and game services and play music and search and hangouts not this kind of hang out that we're doing and all sorts of Google+ Google TV all sorts of goodies so we'll get to that information here as we go throughout the show as we're talking about all the goodies of i/o let us know in the comments if I oh met your expectations what you thought of it if it was you know thumbs up thumbs down something you were hoping to see maybe a device and then you didn't see it so let us know in the comments and we'll check them out from time to time throughout the show and try to do our best to answer them so sedan give us some ecosystem numbers why what's his 900 million that I mentioned yes so 900 million Android devices have been activated to date that is up from 400 million last year so last year there's been a half a billion Android devices activated where is in the previous what four years there was just under a half million so it's definitely still accelerating at a very impressive pace um in addition to that google also announced that they had 48 billion app downloads via google play store or formerly android market put that in perspective that's vs 50 billion from ios app store so well iOS has been around long android has gotten just two billion less downloads via google play those numbers do not include downloads via amazon's app store or any number of other third-party app stores so within a perspective there's definitely been a lot more android apps downloaded then there had been iOS apps downloaded so that's definitely good news for android and for android developers looking to put out apps for android um they definitely started things off gearing it all towards developers and bolstering the ecosystems throughout Google making things better for developers in terms of interacting with our AP is a lot of new developer tools that we're going to talk a little bit more about later and then after the conference Google stated that Android was intentionally absent because they wanted to show specifically how much they could improve the platform just through google play services so really there they're trying to push Android make Android better without even having to upgrade the operating system and I definitely think that's the right strategy for them to take especially given all the fragmentation problems and and you know different oem's with their overlays and everything else this is way for them to offer a consistent level of Google services regardless of effort so John tell us more about the stuff that they've been putting out for developers yeah that's really whether they really kicked the keynote off talking about everything they've done and everything that I'm about to mention was distributed by a Google Play services so that's definitely worth mentioning because it doesn't require a new android version to be able to get it out to users and you're not going to wait for any software updates the other thing is that it does give an advantage to devices that have Google's suite of services installed so if you fork Android like Amazon or you know what they be remembering say Samsung then it's bad news for you so one of the first things that they mentioned was three new location api's and it's a fused location provider and geofencing in an activity recognition and pretty much every one of them is really aimed at cutting how much power usage that it requires to get a location lock and then you get past two locks or more accuracy and the activity recognition allows them to differentiate between some whether somebody's walking or biking or driving so it should definitely have a lot of benefits especially for apps like Fitbit or something like a fitness tracker um they expended on Google+ sign-in a little bit and the other big one that they announced was Google Cloud messaging improvements like a persistent connection upstream messaging which that's kind of aimed at cutting cutting out matter and data usage but it also syncs notifications across devices which should be pretty nice you know overall once developers start to use it but the really big thing that they put out for developers is a completely new integrated development environment called Android studio and they pretty much had a complete nerdgasm as soon as Hugo said it but it's based on IntelliJ beans instead of being eclipsed and a lot of developers had already kind of gone to IntelliJ the only real drawback was that they had to pay for first as a clip to me free and eclipses kind of had a lot of plugins so it's a huge really the first ID even android seen aside from eclipse and then it brings up really rich set of tools you know developers can very easily see what strings and their design layouts across multiple device types really make though what those changes they can really very quickly see on 10 inch tablet 7-inch tablets 3.7 inch foam typical exactly what their text sizes and everything is changing so what does it really mean for users I mean it doesn't sound exciting but you know developers are going to be able to make their applications faster they'll be able to do a much better job optimizing particularly for multiple screen sizes which has been a big complaint for developers versus save windows for iOS I mean in the end you're just going to get better apps in the end so a better app ecosystem really is the goal of this and especially in terms of design should start to see developers really get some applications that are a lot more compelling than what you have now yeah it should grow especially saying it's geared to Android and what's the plugins and extensions really build on top of this environment it should kind of get rid of a lot of the complaints that people have had especially from Java and down yeah this also really shows the maturity of the Android platform in that way like you don't just put out your own ide for a hobbyist platform you put it up for a serious serious on operating system and that's what Google is doing here so it's definitely refreshing as a developer to see them doing very very much in the clips one of the biggest selling points of a cliff was it the fact that it was free it was not that it was the best it was just free so it's nice to see a really compelling option for developers to be able to make something that's really nice developer console got a lot of improvements and this is also one of those things that users might not get excited about but it's ultimately going to make better apps they have a lot of optimization tips and better analytics for developers so if you have to optimize the tablets if you haven't uploaded say tablet screen shots or if you have a lot of users from say Russia or wherever else they're using their app but they don't actually have a translation that's geared to that country it'll let them know to try to help them ultimately get more installs and get more sales and you know full and more revenue then you'll get better metrics better revenue tracking just a really clear picture of how your app is doing and the biggest one of the biggest ones was they can actually do beta testing now and they can do a staged rollout so when you get your app you can go in and help load it and get on and this kind of goes off of Google Plus to you can share it to say your circles and you can get alpha beta testers to get your app ready you know it will negatively affect your reviews on the Play Store and developers can also roll out to just a small percentage of their user base that way the feedback they get can really let them know make sure there aren't any kings in the app you know and just get flooded with a bunch of negative reviews or anything that's gone you know what John that that's actually very nice because we're how many of us have gone and tried the beta version of a new app and had to go to a third party place maybe the developers website or your downloading a new app you know from the Play Store you have the standard version that you're running and then you have the new version 3.0 beta you know it's a completely different app you know so if I could look around read it and places like that with us that their post out to social trying to trying to find people to test for him and it's getting beta testers as a developer sometimes yeah so you're gonna be able to get easy beta testers and more importantly you're going to be able to ensure that you're getting apps from a trusted source because Google play's a trusted source and some guy post in the dropbox link not you know not to say he's not trustworthy but bad things could always happen you know yeah very much so and i right not long after they announced all the developer stuff Hugo Barra walked out and pulled out his galaxy s4 and demonstrate this home screen and showed off and any people were kind of looking at it because it was bone stock Android and that's what you want to get it's a galaxy s4 Google edition it is you know straight up galaxy s4 complete with hardware buttons menu button back button but it runs bone stock Android they didn't call it a nexus but they did say it would get prompt software updates and if you're interested in it it will be available in june for six hundred forty nine dollars from google play and it will work on both t-mobile and AT&T including their LTE network so it's not going to be limited to hspa+ so what I want to know right now is from you guys watching or listening is do you want the stock android samsung galaxy s4 you know a lot of people hate on TouchWiz you know we don't like TouchWiz I'll say we Austin here and probably a lot of you watching your big android fans you know you don't like TouchWiz so to get the power of the galaxy s4 on stock rom where you know you don't have to wait a couple months for it to get completely stable on cyanogenmod you know you don't have to wait for somebody to unlock the bootloader using a you know some type of exploit you know it comes unlockable it comes stock Android you know it's going to work so let me know you know is this something you want is this worth 650 bucks now what now you're dropping your comments in I have a have a thought on this so does this go I think now this will help get stock or get an AOSP rom on the go to samsung galaxy s4 because they don't have to sit there and and you know fight with Samsung to get you know good Hardware working they don't have to sit there and you know try to you know come make new binaries or compiled binaries in enough to fight with source they basically just can you know wit winzip ramat in epic yeah I mean I mean that's a that's an important question though samsung and google going to release the source for the full build or are they just promising prompt updates and a non open source wrong I mean it is open source that that that's growing yeah I mean if it's open source then there's absolutely nothing standing in the way of porting now but every but if it's not I mean and it's not you could if it's not you can still port the wrong course actually just take the system jump in there you go we know I mean yeah you can all right I'll stop in for the carrier trying to port to it it should work straight up so so this will actually make for a more stable you know insert AOSP rom here in the future it really you know it really will because oh definitely you're gonna have that code working code already available yeah that's it I took three with one of our viewer comments here we stock HTC One not into plastic bones I have to agree with that because you know I'm a samsung well you're right i don't like TouchWiz my problem isn't TouchWiz it's I I don't think they make particularly high quality devices in terms of like the physical quality of the device and on top of that I don't like touch wits well yeah if HTC want would have put out a version of the one with stock I would have dropped my nexus for today I would drop it in a heartbeat especially if they got rid of the two buttons like happen with software is the ideal you know they're there was a there was a brief rumor that was shot down by HTC execs but that doesn't mean that I mean how many times have exact shot down rumors because they weren't ready to launch it but there was a rumor uh today saying that you know hey you know basically plastic socks don't spend 650 bucks we have something cool coming to and and then you know everybody's like oh my god HTC is getting a stock Android device as well and then summit HTC execs like no no exective say no we aren't building a Nexus device ya say we are building a stock Android device yeah that's what he said he said the hero building a Nexus device he didn't say we're not gonna put out a phone that runs stock Android yeah we never get dogs we did and may say he could roam for the one don't and and people forget that's not uncharted territory for HTC that is a brand new thing for samsung to be doing but HTC has done it before they released two phones on tmobile that were totally stock Android but HTC devices right the jail was them now what do you guys think about this so let's say I mean it people drop 650 bucks in this cuz they really want it let's say I mean are they gonna sell a whole lot probably not but let's say they sell enough that like oh wow people actually want this you know it would make somebody's day off could this spinoff some type of trend where other manufacturers might contact google and say hey we'd like to have an alternative stock device for you to sell as well i mean do you think they need to contact google they can just do it it's not like they have to pay for this dress but very true very true they don't have either they don't have to if they don't need the license it it's free and open source anybody can get my only my only concern is that Americans especially are so addicted to the subsidized model I don't think it has a chance and the problem with that it's almost the reverse of what you said is what happens if it doesn't do well which is probably not going to sell a lot of devices except maybe developers or somebody that's grandfathered into an unlimited plan and was going to buy retail anyway there's nothing stopping AT&T from subsidizing this and i don't i don't know but i imagine t-mobile will finance that just like they do every other device t-mobile problem yeah that's good all right so so as we said earlier let let me know if you're interested in this and we'll add it to the list of wow someone would pale all this money for it because you know what I frankly think it's awesome but I don't like hardware keys you know and I don't like I don't like a hardware menu button it being more than a hardware back button or that ugly home button in the center or that in that ugly home but but anybody you know what some people do so oh yeah they sell a crapload of devices so apparently lots of you need it yeah yeah that I you know it's it's the number one selling Android phone for two years in a row so chances are the s4 will be again so yeah so apparently people like it but anyways all right so let's talk about so John and talked about the development part of i/o because you know it's a developer conference and it's not about going there to get free tech gadgets and goodies though there's some people too yeah but so Google this year wanted to let everybody know that look at all of these enhancements to Android we can do with Google Play service services with api's with development tools look at all this awesomeness we can bring the platform without actually pushing out a new version of Android so it's to know it's a developer conference and they're you know they're heavily pushing that but need to make a the non-developers happy you know they had some awesome announcements and I'm gonna go over some of them here so there's a new google maps out there which long story short it's completely redesigned from the ground up and it it it has google earth built into it it's awesome i mean it so if you haven't signed up for the the preview yet say it's just the preview it's not they're still adding things to it it's still not done yeah i think it was like a beta public beta you can sign up for the preview in i got access to it this morning so i signed up yesterday so it took a day wait wait Google is doing a public beta rather than just releasing a product and calling it a beta for like six years now little british shocking new trend alright so directions are completely in Hayden redone and enhanced there's edge to edge like content the whole entire thing is a matte you don't have you know I'll bar up top or a bar on the side everything's upon an overlay so its content everywhere there's you know pictures of the location down below that you're viewing um there's live traffic alerts and if your zoom out the whole entire way it's you know live is can be live clouds I mean obviously you know there's done live it's really made up cloud cover it'sit's you how we pulled from like weather services so it might be like synthetically real but it's not actually satellite picture oh yeah it's not actually satellite pictures of cloud I didn't mean that i meant live coverage of clouds you know yeah obviously you know there's not some moon base google sitting there like taking you know satellite imagery of the earth and do have a lot of satellites that's how they get all their images for google earth but they don't have any satellites intent that far out yeah so anyway so well you gotta check it out it's really cool so you can put in your location let's say you're looking for a local restaurant maybe you want to get some wings or something and boom it it the data is just right there with local reviews with information was in a walking directions on how to get they're driving directions the time from where you're at I mean it's it's amazing it's a very very well done app I I'm impressed with it I I can't wait to see something like this come to to mobile I mean yeah it's worth mentioning this is the mobile maps mobile would get this these updates sometimes the summer yes so you gotta check it out and you can you can you can put in your like Google already knows sure if your your avid user of Google now then google has your home address in your work address so if you're sitting there at your house you know you just type in home and it knows your home address or how do I get here from work you know and it knows your address you know it you don't have to type in you know one two three four fake street yeah you have typed it all out um so we were talking about you know Google services how they're able to do things with API well one of the things that they're able to do now is a Google Play game services which is part of you know the Google services the green gear icon that you have so what a google play services Google Play game services do well they allow you to sync gains across devices you can uh it once games support this you can do multiplayer games and you can invite somebody to a game you can you can send somebody message and hey I want to play this game you can go do a game room lobby or you can have it randomly find another Google Play user to play with it was cloud save so your game data is saved out to the cloud leaderboards if you're uh if you want to if you not add I oh right now but you wanna you know be at i/o like like our friend Russell Holly did he he played a game scored really high and then his picture showed up on the scoreboard at i/o so he was you know they're indirectly pretty cool um and could the games are you are this allows for the ability of games be cross-platform so games can be played on on you know chrome iOS as well as you know Android obviously I tested this out um yesterday with one of my buddies I tested out osmosis HD because that game was updated and supported it and we but just happened to both have it installed and if there was need it had a little multiplayer function where we went in there and we could eat each other and you know uh absorb each other I guess is the correct term and you had the ability to share that with here with your circles if you wanted to it was kind of cool um so let's so let's talk about one of my most favorite pieces of software that got updated um much mean I love mall thatthat's thatthat's I can't say one is more of my favorite than the other but google play music was rumored for a long time to get a subscription service and we finally found out it was called it's called all access which it's come a long name google play music all access but hey whatever it's still it's still all part of google play musical not as mad as the sprint samsung galaxy s3 epic touch 4g LTE yeah they were just nice i don't think i wouldn't ever been beaten so uh right now you can sign up for a music subscription for you get a 30-day free trial and if you decide to buy it by june thirtieth you get a discount did you the pricing is 7 99 per month if you sign up by june thirtieth and after june thirtieth it is 999 per month so it's kind of cool it allows you to you can make radio stations based on a song based on you know Jean rah and it has recommendations and the best thing is is once you use the more you use the the listen now service the better becomes the more it you know it's google right learns it it learns about your listening habits and the songs you like in and everything so it gets better the more you use it and you'll get better recommendations to explore a certain artist or a certain genre or you know and then you can create radio stations or you can just go down to your recommended stuff and pick an artist and pick a song and start playing it you don't have to make a radio so it has to those features built in you can pick a song or you can you know have it do a radius it's kind of like I like Pandora kind of like Spotify like in one really I i like it i've i've been using the hell out of it the past day and a half how about you guys have you tried it out yet I have not tried it out yet although I am very very impressed with the new group of music app in general the UI yet so so John it is not Tron anymore buddy where we talked about that last week it's definitely not trying it's definitely very much in line with what they did with the new play store I've been the one that has used Spotify for a while Spotify is really just now getting up a web app so if you're only chrome or chrome eyes like the Linux client to Spotify kind of sucks but our do doesn't you know kind of like Google has been doing if you're using audio you know how you i'm talking about it has the library approach or Spotify his organization to playlist is just platelets like you have to make playlists for every single thing that you add so the organization is just crap so I feel like this is a really good compromise of the two so long as they stay on top of the streaming no because audios the biggest problem was that the mobile apps just aren't that good so as long as Google delivers on both the web and mobile I think they'll see a lot of people cross over to it because there's a glaring faults and audio and Spotify and Pandora really alright so let's answer a couple questions here we have a few getting backed up here relevant to games up Damon hard ass hole a little bit ago do we think ingress data had anything to do with any of the stuff that came out at Google IL well you know what ingress is definitely Dana mining stuff i mean it's it's fun to play but it's definitely data mining i mean that that's what yeah that's what Google does um I would say it's only been doing it for six months you know they might not have had the chance to release a whole product or improve a product upon that data I mean it maybe next year I'll is my guess what do you guys think it's a tough speculation you know yeah I I think ingress is one of those things with their gathering data and eventually it's going to become obvious what for and we'll all be shocked and impressed but I don't think we've seen it yet and uh so you guys remember speaking of music remember Sebastian from Wow then I'm drawing a blank here where um the previous show guess that I've drawn a blank here what what company he represented wife Doris doubletwist Wow yeah doubletwist yeah they're talking about their music streaming service we had him on here a month or so ago and 46 coolio wanted to know where his beautiful golden locks of hair where I'm sure they're on his head you know since he's not here right now unless he shaved it uh and and Michael wanted to know how many games support the new Google Play game services and that's actually a very good question and I think that sounds like a task for the android authority app guy Joe Hindy who actually is probably watching us right now so I think that would be that would be a nice feature to review gains that support the new play services i I've seen a list of maybe like 20 games or so maybe maybe not review all of them but the top games then do some honorable mentions I think that might be beneficial so I'll twist his arm and see if he can get that for you Michael uh besides throwing Jill under the bus at the last second so that's a let's talk about some more some more app updates and new services that that launched at IL so who doesn't love google search when that's the heart of that's the heart of google that they're a search company that provides tons of data search what Google does search really well you know I mean they ever know I guess occasionally I mean they might you know be working on a car drives itself but from time to time they do search uh and you know Microsoft has this thing called Bing apparently that doesn't get on competition right across the street from I oh yeah yeah yeah so anyway so Google search got updated the Android app to display new cards and soon coming to Chrome which I believe if you're on the latest like either canary build or dev channel you can actually test this out now but you can do a search by saying okay Google hey where'd you hear that from before just like glass right you say ok Google and then you do your search and its search has been updated and improved a lot it's now a they're calling it conversational search where it can answer your question you don't you know you don't have to phrase it like a search you know you can do normal language questions and it will come real you know converse with you and it can even anticipate your next search result you know based on your history based on based on you and and based on you know what what what you ask so it's almost no machine learning it's in it's an AI the knowledge graph is really growing and I can't wait to test it out i'm not on the latest developer build of chrome or canary bill but I've seen some people testing it and it looks amazing besides the demo we saw so on the phones is it always listening I can just pick it up and say ok Google and he'll start searching no no this is just for the web Brewer for Chrome for cry now the I i was mentioning new cards google search got updated to include TV new TV episodes new books and new movies and as well as new music albums that come out based on most likely based on things that you like so let's say you like Daft Punk and when their new album comes out which should be soon if very very soon I think it's available on iTunes right now and that the single was available on Google Play but it if you were when the album comes out maybe you'll get another now card I haven't seen one yet um that says hey you're you know favorite band as an album out ya go buy it here you know it's been maybe we'll have a link to the play store to get it I have seen some new search cards I had to search cards pop up saying hey you were recently searching for stuff about Doctor Who continue your search here and it showed a bunch of preview results and I saw one for Android asking if I want to continue an Android search and I was curious what that's about cuz I don't remember actually just typing in Android usually it's followed by something else but that's fine i mean it wanted me to search for android so it knows me it knows things i like uh I can't wait to try it like I said on the desktop if you're on a canary build right now or a dev build that has this capability which I believe one of the two does uh let me know yeah let me know how it goes uh my friend Ferran Lee was talking about it yesterday and he needs that it was pretty awesome oh okay so let's talk about in hangouts so well a little bit of a I don't know I it is a botched rollout the right wording on that er I know that it's botched it's just a half-assed well in that kind of botched alright so so a gone perfect roll out yeah i mean i think the service that they released works well I haven't encountered any real problems with it there are some things that I design choices I guess that I disagree with I'd like to get more insight into more users on my like list of people available I know I can click the new hangout button and then scroll through everybody not even everybody just circles mostly and a few other people but yeah I'd like to be able to more easily get to all of my contacts out of it but like it no works I don't have any problems with it but it didn't really unify anything because they didn't give it a messenger they didn't give it a talk in gmail they didn't actually upgrade up everybody's talk apps on Android I had to go to the Play Store and push it down to my own well III don't think it's a I don't think it's a mandatory update because some people might not want to update so you have to you know specifically go and look for it oh I did specifically go and look for it and still was unable to install it through google play store then i dunno ended with some enviro services yeah shoot down to the phone yes ah a lot of devices had issues and they've been rolling out small updates uh having Nexus 4 I shouldn't be having an issue on Google's freaking device well you know what on my wife's Galaxy Nexus she wasn't able to install its it incompatible the first day yesterday this this morning it said it was compatible in my nexus 7 sometime in the afternoon got it it became compatible so they were rolling it out slowly I mean think about it they they were had their have to roll this out to almost a billion devices so of course it will take a while well you know it's going to take a while and III think that you know I was a little frustrated first I didn't have access yesterday when I it work I by the time I came home I did my problem with it is not so much the way they rolled out the application to devices that's been frustrating but you know ultimately that's kind of whatever my problem is they're pushing these oh look we have this new unified chat system but they didn't bother unifying it's also replace the old school let's talk about unification here so gmail hasn't been upgraded yet it they are playing to upgrade gmail but yeah one thing at a time here so that you want the service for like 60 no we're looking that is yours we've been hearing about the service that is coming Dan now some people were reporting having the talk icon still there on my next 27 I had the talk icon still there but actually if I tapped on that icon if I had a short cut out on the home screen and tap on the icon it actually launched hangouts and most likely if I rebooted the machine it would have cleared the you know app cache and boom it have been gone but I mean now just because it was a shortcut on the desktop um now now the mesh and messenger icon is still there well that's Google+ messenger and a I don't remember who but a googler commented on that saying that right now they're migrating over the backlog of messenger conversations and once all the conversations are on the back end are migrated to the new platform then a Google+ update will come out and messenger will go away that's a laughable excuse absolutely laughable google has one of the most sophisticated networks on the planet they are literally writing the book on how to build a large-scale network to be able to do instantaneous global data transfer to say oh no I'm sorry we can't do this because we're migrating the data are you kidding me really all Google does is migrate data around the world all the time they custom built a network specifically to be able to do that with maximum efficiency unparalleled efficiency and oh sorry we couldn't roll this out by guy owe because we're still migrating the data apparently we didn't think to start this a week in advance like really this is just oh we didn't bother to think about that because we're putting out this new unified thing so you know why would we bother thinking about the eight different services that we're trying to unify in advance of releasing this the other thing that could have done is like they done with other like Google search will give you a crowd if there's an app update they could have done that in talk they could have done that with a Google+ update that when you go to messenger it says hey we're moving over to hangouts or don't you go install Vince yeah because if I think about the average user and you have to take into account most people just don't really install app updates like i'll go on most people's phones and open up the Play Store and there's like 23 app updates waiting on them because they just don't bother updating their phone so putting it inside an application is about the best way to get them to migrate and this book it's probably going to take months before you actually see average users even pay enough attention to update talk to a so you know and is with anything I'm sure it's going to get better over time such as SMS support right now we know if we look at the application permissions it has permission to read your text messages it has permission to send text messages that feature obviously isn't available yet but the fact the app has permission to do that and I won't mention her name but eh but eh gurgler that we all know and love said that SMS support is coming very soon then a few hours after she said that she updated her post saying oops sorry we have nothing to comment on this at this time but she didn't delete the original portion of that yeah we love you we love what you do if you happen to see this so keep up the great work and thanks for thanks for letting us know that it isn't coming soon I mean this isn't a surprise they had kind of alluded to the fact that voice immigration wasn't going to be there released but that it was going to be you know in the pipeline and realistically I think I another friend of my another developer posted some insight on this where point out that really the point here isn't to integrate with SMS it's to replace SMS yeah why are people still texting just send me a hangout message you know um I would say the same thing but then I looked I looked at an option there's an option to have google hangout messages be sent to you via SMS if hangout is idle I said to myself why would you want this why do I want hang out messages to be sent by text message to me and then and then I realized well not everybody in the world is blessed with the same type of data that we are here in the US not everybody has the same type of coverage and also some places data plans are expensive saying text messages no might not be you know that they normally aren't so you know we're in one that's true because carriers are screwing their cups oh well okay but somebody down in in Guam you know might not have the best not work you know no and that's that's absolutely sure I get that but it's not any more difficult for a carrier to move a hangout sighs message from point A to point B that it is an SMS sighs message from point A to point B they're just simple text in fact i'd be willing to bet that the Hangout sighs message is probably encountered in a way that makes it smaller than the SMS all right so what about somebody that maybe has a feature phone or has a not a dummy phone you know non-smartphone they want to get hang out text messages you know sent to them oh I feel that those people and we built them them out of the 1990s horsham google voice let's just be hypothetical here could be the trump card that pretty much puts an end to every other whatsapp other kind of message because it would be the one application that you could still send a text to your grandma if you felt like it and be in the same exact application because google voice will allow you to do that absolutely absolutely with Google boys they can integrate it as a selection where you know you pick your contact that you want to hang out with then you pick which of your various you know contact information for them you want to contact you want to text their cell phone number call their work phone number you have directly through a hangout send them a message in hangouts to their gmail address or to their work email address if they have that in there on google apps I'd like to be able to pick and choose which of your various means of communicating with that person you want to do all from one interface we with that if we will did that they could quite literally make phone numbers obsolete you have my gmail address you can call me you can email me you can SMS me you can instant message me you can contact me in all of these different ways that I'm getting google I'd give them my phone number through voice I give them my email address obviously and then they've got they've got all this information why bother with a phone number alright so so let's talk about another product that is near and dear to our hearts because well those of you that are watching on YouTube it might be near and dear to your heart but those of you that are watching on Google+ right now we're listening to us later in her and have a Google+ account let's talk about the the Google+ overhaul and 41 features Vic said we're added to to Google+ we're not going to go over all 41 because well frankly we probably don't know all 41 but also for for time you know we don't want to have this be the Google+ shell so for all Google+ newzeas check out our friends at Google Plus daily I'm sure they know all 41 of those right there all right so some of the backgrounds like you're screaming find out a lot about it to your stream you know I wasn't going to start with the stream because it screams a hot topic or we're never gonna get off the damn thing let's talk about that stream alright man there's there's two kinds of people in this world one they love the new string changes or two oh my god kill it with fire I mean there is not and there's no hybrid no middle ground you either love the new changes or you or you're gonna adapt to the new changes and eventually love them where you're never going to love them and you hate those damn things like there's so much rage yesterday I'm sure still today about oh my god this is ridiculous and you don't want I'm gonna make two comments about it and you guys can go ahead and let us know what you think and as I'm ranting and raving about this here go ahead and let us know in the comments what do you think about the new UI changes on google+ I think it's great because it allows me to see more content I follow a lot of people I circle a lot of people and a couple fat like 3000 some people so my stream is constantly it's a stream its flow and it's a moving right so I miss a lot of posts I miss a lot of content the fact that I have to go up into the corner and click refresh while might be annoying means that means I made a conscious decision that I don't want to see what's on my screen anymore show me something new so that means I either looked at it all or none of it amused me so I wanted to see something new whereas before it's constantly scrolling if I look away for a second and I look back I might have missed it so it allows me to see more content and I've interacted with a lot more posts the past day than I have in a long time so I think it's cool for engagement I like it for engagement now having scrollbar ception we have three scrollbars beside each other and if you scroll down in one to where you can't scroll anymore because the other scrollbar needs to be scrolled down and as you're scrolling that down if you accidentally scroll down the page you're screwed the whole thing went away so that needs to be free the crowbar ception needs to be fixed having a scroll bar inside a scroll bar in a scroll bar sucks but you know what you'll watch where you're scrolling you really tell that's very true yes so uh I mean what do you guys think about the stream you know am I am I drunker yeah you know I'm really kind of ambivalent about the new UI the multi columns I could take it or leave it it really doesn't bother me but I'm not like yes is the greatest thing ever but you know I it's also not the end of the world I do find having to click the new button annoying just because I dream doesn't flow as fast as yours and so I hate having to click every time like oh there's been one more post click Next oh there's been a little more cost click Next Great Lake I don't want to do that every five minutes I wanted to just populate especially if I'm not like it that that screen or that window isn't my focus if I'm doing something in another way though I want to just see stuff populating like that so I'd prefer that there was an option so uh Damon Hart uh you know he said I think there is too much going on the stream which the ridge said I wish there was two columns instead of three well my friend you if you don't like three columns narrow your window there's this yeah there's a simple fix for that all you got to do is just suck your window in just narrow your window and you can narrow it down to two columns right now I actually find myself trying to figure out if I like to or like three and everyone's long i go back to care at all i don't want if you want yeah you can narrow down to one so yeah just because you click the drop down more and go down to three column doesn't mean 3k who actually show you can have a like the three but I have a 22 inch monitor so I can understand what somebody out all that app Todd wooden I just wished the time stamps you know like the most recent post would be like most recent you know let's say left to right right the inconsistent there is but the next list of cards goes navigationally back in time consistently instead of having new slightly older slightly older slightly older slight in kind of jumbling them up if it was just a consistent timestamp and had the card split for the content either I would absolutely love it and the clicking the refresh new isn't really my thing I kind of liked how it would all the fresh as long as it's not sitting here kicking me up to the top I just it would be nice little what's new and just make it like a timestamp that highlights what has been done since I've been scrolled down on stream and just go to like the last point you just have it instead of having to refresh it just shows me where the post I'll have missed since that points I mean like a little face you get enhanced that show you where the other person last red yeah oh wait you mean using the same example had one product in another one too all right so let's talk about some other Google+ features let's talk about let's talk about auto awesome and auto enhance in those are just awesome names I'm sorry alright so so auto-awesome can do a lot of different things for you so let's say you take let's say you take a couple landscape photos where it's kind of like a panorama photo but without a panorama you know you just take a picture this way take picture this way and it's not a panoramic photo but it could have been well auto-awesome says huh well you know we're gonna make this a panoramic photo for this guy or girl and it turns into a panoramic photo for you that that's one feature it does now have you ever taken a whole bunch of photos of somebody know you're trying to get that perfect shot he end up you know taking one with her there you know facing one way or they're turning one way then you take another one they're turning another way so you have a bunch of similar photos and you look through them all you try to figure out you know which pose was the best what you know which way they're facing which pose were the best if you have dogs kids Kats whatever well Google Plus with auto awesome says wouldn't it be awesome if they didn't have to choose which of these poses they liked why don't we why don't we turn that into an animated gif and it does and you know I made one last night and I kind of made NASA and myself but it was funny i SAT here I wanted that so unusual for you I was like yeah this way then this way looking down looking up I like so what it would have went to although awesome everything together I'm like dancing and stuff whoa I thought I thought it was great and I'm gonna do it again because it's fun um I took a photos of my coworker today just testing it out again and it made this really awesome animated gif of her making all sorts of faces and stuff so that's a really cool feature I can't wait to use it you know for snapping photos of my kids and stuff auto enhance well it it auto enhanced is your phone um it pretty much does what says uh no so what what does it do it you know noise reductions if you take a grainy photo at night your low light it'll help with that with noise reduction skin softening you know it'll uh you know it'll don't do touch-ups for you hope get rid of those blemishes not really but uh yeah it did it it does you know applies a light filter like it automatically for you now don't worry bro shelter yeah now you can turn this off but it doesn't overwrite here it doesn't overwrite your original photo it just touches it up for you and if you want to go and look at the difference between the two you just click on the photo up in the top top left corner you can click on the little auto enhance icon and see the original and see the one that's enhanced and decide to keep it if you want to keep it or not I think it's neat said this happens but this won't happen on your old photos you have to go do that automatically but it will happen on anything new that is uploaded either through instant offload which is now called auto backup or it'll be uploaded or you upload it yourself manually so and speaking of auto backup I like the fact that they can change that because now Dan's gonna have a comment on this because Dan doesn't like dumb but a lot of people were confused about instant upload a lot of people thought oh my god my photos are getting shared to the world no it was just getting shared to you and you could choose to never touch it again or share it to yourself or delete it or not it was a private photo but a lot of people thought oh my god my photos are instantly uploaded and shared so Google put a nice big yellow box they're saying no this is a private album just for you apparently that wasn't good enough so now it's called auto backup because that's really what it does it automatically backs up your photo submit now hopefully people won't think it's automatically sharing their photos oh let's see then another another big Google+ update well photos again yeah we'll keep talking about photos because that's huge um 15 gigabyte of cloud storage for full sized photos which you can store unlimited photos at the 2048 x 2048 resolution you now have 15 gig to store your full size photos that 15 gigs is rolled together with your what used to be five gigabytes of drive storage and on average about 10 gigabytes of gmail storage it's all now rolled into one which is something we talked about last week is something that we all they wanted to see ya yeah definitely yeah so how yeah we talked about a lot of the stuff last week you know yeah oh she likes you know metal um uh so we did talk about some Google TV stuff last week and we weren't a hundred percent wrong but we won a hundred percent right either so Google TV is basically just being called Android now which you know we kind of said that um it's good you TV is going to be updated to the latest version of Android but here's the neat thing Google TV isn't dying it's not going away it's getting turned into I can a software package and add on so you can occur now what's that looks like OS x server now well sure I never used in a sec syrup because I no longer an independent distribution you buy regular OS X and then you buy the server at on from the whatever ok ok yeah yeah yeah so you have a you have a regular Android device I mean I don't know if there's restrictions on what can get this you know add-on so i don't know if i can put installed on my phone but but but a manufacturer you know makes a Google TV device put stock android on it and then after they put stock android on it they use uh you know we'll call it a development toolkit a software package and adeline I don't really know the official terminology yet but all I know is it google TV and android are completely separate and you add it's an add-on so that's that's as much smarter way to package it yes in so we'll see uh you know right now a google TV said that current market devices will be upgraded to jelly bean we're not really sure what that means market devices be that that's a killer once they're currently on sale at yeah that's a careful choice words I would like to assume that that's what that means but you got to remember that all those marvel you know chips that were running I don't know if they can run I mean well I'm not gonna make a speculation but c'mon jelly bean yeah I see us i can probably were in jelly bean critic yes my jelly bean yeah whoa we'll see um um I'm curious what happens in the near future but we do know that that's exciting you're going to get the latest version of Android and it can get prompt or updates because it's a it's a separate software package you don't have to worry about a forked version of Android being maintained yeah I mean not just faster updates but in updates to Android independent who updates from google TV right and as far as the future of Google TV this means that the google TV like staff developers that whole team they don't have to worry about maintaining their underlying operating system they can just focus on the service that they're trying to build and dan any app it's just Android it doesn't have to be a special and you know as a special exactly that also be the Andy yet the Google TV devices that you're buying are no longer restricted to these 12 applications it's the full market yeah and this add-on will have you know you know uh specific google TV apps you've on you'll come to know and love such as you know primetime yeah because that's that you know that's a proprietary you know Google TV app so uh I think that's really it for Google i/o well you know we had a lot a lot of fun a lot of geeking out a lot of exciting stuff but you know what what didn't we see that we thought we were going to see you know a lot of people thought we're gonna see all sorts of devices you know we ended up seeing a galaxy s4 you know running stock Android you know we we didn't see new Nexus 7 we didn't see well i'm gonna say the other bastardizations the things that people thought we were going to see you know we didn't see a new version andhra we were fairly confident the fort we're fairly cough from the 4.3 exists but we didn't see it latest rumors this evening coming out of i/o say that on jun 10th a white Nexus 4 will be unveiled and Android 4.3 will be unveiled as well and Google did announced at i/o that the next version of android would support le Bluetooth low-energy Bluetooth smart smart ready whatever you want to call it so they did make that announcement so we do know it's coming and brew maria's it'll be here in a month less than that is it just me or does it seem like Google should have right io was a lot earlier this year than it was last year two months yeah is it just me or does it seem like they should have had it at the end of June like that it's asked you historically it was always in May uh they pushed it I don't remember why they pushed it back two months last year I don't remember but it normally it was an a but they pushed it back so i I'm hearing these rumors about a next version of android and another device coming on the tenth of June you know they got Maps going but we are gonna see it until later this summer yeah hangouts mostly there but they still haven't done all of these other pieces of the puzzle when we have a lot of my stuff that's kind of ready but not so much well is it finance I'm better off a month from now when all this stuff was actually ready for prime time it's gonna allow them to make another major announcement to stay in the media longer you know and it's going to be after you know apples developer conference so well actually the June tenth date I'm not sure when that is now it's sometime in June okay pick up it was a clear lake in this year okay well then the maybe I'll try to steal the show WWE CA I mean wwd it's funny because I Oh kind of felt like da vida de see this year in like WWDC last year really was kind of it was kind of developer focused I guess Google did put more of a developer focus on Io than WWDC did but there weren't any huge announcements at WWDC last year just kind of like this year product wise which is not necessarily a bad thing I think Google might be pushing to get the consumer devices in their own announcement closer to the holiday season to try to help sell the nexus line of better because they say a phone tablet left you a new Chromebook at the exact same time and you know kind of get some industry splash at a time where people are already going to spend more money just because it's closer to the end of the year then maybe that's the route they're trying to take with their consumer products I don't yeah I I definitely don't have a problem with them not but he got any hardware at this event I dad yeah I I DeHaan whether I remember I didn't find any of it particularly healing even the new Nexus 7 right like I've got an exercise I don't need to replace it yet so I and I think it's smart for them to kind of unify their product launches in the November timeframe new late october early november when they released their phone they really 10 inch tablet but then they had the nexus 7 was hanging off on the front end of that I think if this year they try and need to buy all three at the one time that's smart for that but I mean my problem with with what was there it wasn't so much to what we didn't see it was what we saw was only halfway done alright so one last thing about IO in our before we close here is the closing remarks of Larry Page he made us remember why you know Google's awesome well why we love Google if you and I'm not gonna try to paraphrase what he said because it was a great speech it really was and you know it made us love Google more than we already do so go check it out watch his closing remarks and and remember you know he basically says that Google should be trying to build awesome things that we don't even know what the hell they are you know shouldn't be worried about fighting about stupid patents and fighting about you know you know YouTube and screw gold and micro shafted I mean who the hell cares about that stuff focus on things that we can't even dream of and to go watch it I I really enjoyed it yeah and the fact that he did a question and answer session was just something that was yeah yeah the QA analyst pretty nice definitely all right Dan 32nd patent wars are real quick because you know we ought even know Larry Page says we shouldn't focus on it we focus on it for at least a minute or two because well it's it's news yes so there was a a pretty big case called CLS bank versus Alice Corp so not any actors in the smartphone world but the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on bank and that means that's the entire panel all of the judges on the entire Court of Appeals there uh basically ruling that the material at issue in this particular case wasn't patentable because it said blah blah blah on a computer and for those who aren't familiar a lot of people have been patenting things where it's generic and obvious things that everybody is known or been using for the last hundreds of years and tacked on on a computer at the end and then said oh it's totally new concept and gotten patents issued so this is the federal court striking down that concept but only sort of the ultimate decision was pretty convoluted there were several different concurring opinions it makes it pretty obvious that this needs to go to the Supreme Court especially since now this is the federal court of appeals reneging on a problem that they themselves created because software patents weren't originally a thing until they open the door to them in the first place so hopefully we'll finally see some some progress on this and get a real ruling from the Supreme Court on the topic in other legal news youtube / google sent a cease and desist letter to microsoft telling them to take down their YouTube a Windows Phone app that it violates the youtube's terms of services so basically Google is saying we're not developing for your unpopular and cracking platform and no you can't rip us off and make your own knockoff version of YouTube that blocks add strips ads and allows you to download the video I mean what Microsoft is actively promoting poyo piracy yes yes if anybody else produce this product it would be getting DCM aid for being a piracy magnet but because it's Microsoft it's not all right so as usual you can check us out on android authority com youtube / android authority soundcloud / android authority on twitter on facebook and google+ pretty much all over the interwebs check us out every thursday night at nine thirty p.m. eastern time for android authority on air once again can click up here down here wherever we're at on you to to subscribe to our youtube channel all right thank you guys have a good night in a good weekend