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shut up stop welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross I'm Scott Anderson I'm Dan Charlton and I'm Johnathan Franklin and as you can see in here Scott Anderson is back he hasn't been on the show and all I think three weeks ago the last two weeks he was he was absence we've been seeing him in a few weeks for those of you that are fans of the show you'll be happy to know that the reason Scott wasn't here for the past three weeks he was actually attending a seminar he was attending a seminar on how to make your bed if you look directly behind Scott you will see the fruits of his labor have been accomplished he he has successfully made the bed this is an android authority on air first um I don't even know if I can go on I'm ecstatic right now I came back a changed person I suppose I that much look where the YouTube comments and the Google+ comments about the bed being made I have all been invalidated so thank you Scott for at least giving us something to talk about for the first value really got to me and so I wanted to make a change well that's that's not good man I'm happy for you okay so so besides beds being made and Scott being back from the Land of Oz we're hit you up with some ecosystem news uh yeah a few things happen that the last day of i/o we didn't have a chance to report on so we're going to hitch with that already talked about some rumors in the Android ecosystem cards all the things at least in terms of you I for apps and then some device news you know some galaxy s4 news will be the HTC One stuff and uh some carrier stuff like Jennifer Lopez I so so John I ok man's gone did we miss anything last week a few things from the the keynote and so forth yeah hmm a couple of talks after you know ours was on Thursday and they gave a couple talks after but there were quite a few hints and upcoming version of Android which is most likely to be called 4.3 um one thing to really know twas a lot of the talks were very heavily oriented toward design and teaching developers good design principles why they designed Android you know in its current state the way that it is and really how to make your apps just really fast and fluid but um another couple of things that really did get shown off and are coming to Android that they pointed out war one is there's actually finally an official library to implement the action bar on versions of Android that don't have you know honeycomb on forward where it had that library baked in that'll work very similarly to actionbarsherlock which most of the developers have gone with and the i/o 2013 application was actually written using that library so if you want an indication of how that does and usually they open source the iowa hap afterwards so you can kind of see where they did with it the other one was i was Romain guy and Chet passes Android graphics performance talk and the whole time they were talking they were just kind of jokingly saying an upcoming android release that shall remain unnamed and they gave a couple of hints that maybe it's not a full version increase maybe it's just an iterative thing and they did cover some architectural things and two things that they really mentioned was that the system is automatically going to reorder and merge GPU tasks which is something that developers have had to do and basically what that does is instead of loading like a bitmap then text than a PNG you then you know it brings all those commands together what I'll load all the images all the text in blocks so it reduces the number of commands and the GPU doesn't have to change states as much so it really makes the application a lot faster and more fluid the other words that they're introducing some multithreading into their actual rendering pipeline so that you can use instead of you know one thread you four cores to do things like drop shadows and basically more butter in the next you know is this is just the next kind of evolutionary step as far as them trying to make Edward a lot smoother and faster and easier for developers to get a really smooth feeling really good performing out and a couple of the web talks we know that blink engine was something that they forked from WebKit and they're working on it very quickly the question was how fast it was going to evolve would they've already stripped out 8.8 million lines of code from blink engine so ya moving extremely fast and it's good that they're not having to kind of keep up with all the legacy WebKit stuff because WebKit is spread across so many types of devices but they're really it's showing that they're really serious about making chrome capable of evolving in the direction they want it to and be a real competitor to you know WebKit which is on safari and so many other different browsers but yeah 8.8 million lines of code that's crazy well no and they're there they're thinning it down which can only make it faster oh you're looking rid of unneeded code so chrome is going to get faster and I don't know about you guys but loves me some fast web browsing so absolutely it's easier for the developer to know they don't have to maintain as much so exactly no I think blink is a really really good step for Google to take and forking WebKit getting out from underneath the shadow of Apple who Apple maintains WebKit the same way Oracle maintains their stuff which is to say it's there they kind of half heartedly support it so that they can run around the world bragging about how they in charge of it but it doesn't really go anywhere do anything and isn't all that great for people but they're kind of stuck using it right like it's the same thing with Java and with openoffice that's now a defunct because Libre Office killed it right like blink is going to kill WebKit this is google is actually going to maintain it and push it and drive it and realistically google knows a crapload more about how to serve the web than Apple ever will because that's what Google does right like their primary internet company Apple is not they trade on the internet they work with the internet they you know interface with it and obviously do very well with us that they're primarily a hardware company that's their main focus that's what they've always been if they'd already wearing some software but you know they're not an Internet company do you think apple will start supporting us more so now that Google is coming out with a competitive or cook could potentially be more competitive than WebKit itself no because I don't think the Apple gains anything out of being behind WebKit yeah they gain some compatibility which is nice but Google's going to make sure the blank runs just fine on Mac if they can leverage blink into a iOS app that's even better for consumers so I am this is pretty much stuck with web get there so ultimately if blink prevails and Apple keep supporting WebKit they will be supporting a dying you know a dying breed if you will I mean look at it right safaris not exactly a popular desktop browser even on max people use firefox people use chrome so far as the default didn't then they replace it with something that they like better just like on Windows where it comes with Internet Explorer and then they replace it with something I like better the difference is the population of Windows computers vastly larger than the population of next so safaris not really all that used true right now it's not like no help is forcing you to use it like you do there as poor either yeah the downside for Apple is in terms of statistics reporting's one of the things that we keep seeing is all these reports about how people are far more engaged with their iOS devices than they are with Android devices part of the reasons the statistics stay that is because the people were analyzing the stats look at WebKit stands right they see well there's many millions of people connected to the web from a mobile device running webcam therefore it's Safari doesn't matter if it's running what kid on Android it's still getting lumped in a safari so if browsers were more accurately reporting that they're blank and therefore google and not WebKit and therefore Apple I think that people get better picture how few people actually rely on Safari I'm definitely good there they're already experimenting what the engine do so all pan was one thing that there oh alright so John did we have any other tidbits that the past week from the ecosystem um they talk a little bit more about hangouts um this was on google+ this wasn't really on the talks at i/o but people were concerned about the move to hang outs after gmail and making outgoing calls and they basically clarify the outgoing calls are coming to hangouts very soon and it's also going to be the future of google voice which is very good news because google voice is this is something that hasn't gotten a lot of love lately and it's interesting that that look going to the last several years yeah it's interesting that there I mean I ok I understand making an outgoing call ok so that that doesn't make it a google voice replacement I mean you know unique greetings for calls you need they were talking about the integrated you could already make calls from gmail and you can't do it right now yeah yeah but I'm wondering how well you know I I saw the post where they said no case you haven't figured out you know hang out is the future of google voice so does that mean that you're going to make an outgoing call and that's it or are we talking about like the two of them all coming together when you're gonna get some type of you know answering voicemail system you know you know i want to know how deep of integration and yes you are going to bring i have to assume it'll be pretty deeply integrated I mean already you can have voice send your your voicemails transcribed to gmail okay all of your hangout targeting log to gmail it doesn't seem that difficult to just integrate the both of the done right there in gmail and then as far as the the calls right now well everybody's been up in arms about the outgoing calls incoming calls still come into hangouts right I've been answering calls on my computer all left and right through hangouts because I'm sitting my desk I've got a mic why wouldn't have it so it was actually seem to work better than gmail did yeah I would agree so my they definitely still have the call capacity it's just the outgoing and even the out going to say it's go on is it entirely true you can still place now going call through a hangout but you have to start a hangout first which means you have to have another participant right it used to be that you could start a hangout just with you and then invite people and that doesn't seem to be an option anymore either do you think that they're gonna go with voice calling a VoIP way with regards to mobile just over data the thing that's gonna be the direction that carriers eventually go once they all kind of may it may not look like it they might keep a plan like that but you know we're eventually gonna be doing a lot of OI over data anyway so yeah I really think that they would I mean to compete with skype in your facebook Messenger and so forth me all competitors are doing it as far as voice integration goes I don't think so because right now they essentially already have that functionality with with hangouts with the hangouts app right it's just video only instead of video and points but that's definitely void when you're doing it you know the audio part of it so the thing that they can do with voice that skype and facebook and all the others can't do is they can leverage actual phone numbers and like the actual phone network that's been in place for decades right with voice you can call out to other landlines you can do that with skype but they charge you for it and so anyway don't definitely interesting on over the next coming week you know so I I think it'll be exciting definitely something that google voice users will want to you know keep a keep an eye out for ya I mean the big thing that the google has with voice that they can leverage is they can allow other people to pick up there you know your grandmother pick up her old school telephone because she doesn't have a cell phone because she's in her 80s and why would she need one so she picks up her landline phone and dials you and it calls your hangouts app which movie and it calls you no matter what platform you're on exactly or where you're at like and everybody else can't leverage because they can't take incoming calls to a number right a 10-digit phone number as opposed to your skype handle or your facebook camp unless you bought a skype number with the pay version yeah but I mean we're talking about free yeah exactly yeah all right so let's talk about some more things that came out of IA let's not talk about some rumors cuz you know what loves me some rumors because that they get the heart beatin you know it gets us excited for upcoming products and you know what that I don't I just like it I just like it makes me smile puts a smile on my face so Android and Nexus rumors that came out of I oh so obviously we didn't see it a new version of Android but we know it's right around the corner from server moms and so forth you know as all sorts of hints you know and there's all sorts of different hints and different io sessions such as like Cthulhu type monster from final fantasy and on all the boss powers from the the slideshow listed like jelly bean is a power key lime pie was a power and then a little bit later on during the design session you know there was a an Android character sitting on a park bench eating some key lime pie you know so Google pretty much did what they do best they they told us they tease this and we love them for it you know we know that key lime pie is the next iteration name we don't know when it's coming we don't know the version number know that really matters the fact that Google played along with us and gave us tidbits of info and dinner Oh yelled hollow Yolo during the fireside chat you know I mean it was it was all cool but but anyway so let's go back to the so a white Nexus 4 was actually spotted and had IL and it was running Android 4.2 point one right now but I said version numbers don't mean anything but it wasn't white Nexus 4 which we've seen leaked over the place for months um rumor has it that that device will become available or announced on jun 10th and that is also rumored to be the same day that android 4.3 becomes available and maybe a nexus 7 refresh will be may be made for pre-order or at least announced on that date and maybe this is a long shot here maybe another device this past week after I owe a Google branded media streaming device kinda like a nexus q kinda like a google TV a media streaming device passed through the FCC and the neat thing about that is it was actually called media player you know and the device name was h 8 40 device and the the model number was h2g2 which i'm not a fan of this because i had better read books but whatever hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy that's a little hat tip to them so i don't know if it's coming to rest while it was plastered with 42s everywhere yeah yeah so it's gonna be like a towel we're gonna get I guess that's something big in that now scan there's been people speculating that it's essentially a nexus q well yeah well yes that and more I'm you know I'm saying it's that and more because there's been reports that this is going to be heavily focused on gaming so it's going to be a way for Google to take over the living room um now let's say all these things happen here in another two weeks or so well just so happens on jun 10th is the first day of Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference so dozens of times that Apple doesn't attend yes but now it's that would steal a lot of thunder from WWDC if Google made all these major announcements of it you know on the Nexus 4 Nexus 7 and a android gaming console or you know media streaming player whatever the hell you want to call it all in the same day of that conference so I'll be pretty interesting if those rumors and speculations do turn out to be true I'm definitely going to be having my my buttons and f5 and mouse clicks and all that stuff ready to go on the play store that day all day long expecting to sell out roughly five minutes after they go on sale 15 minutes later and go on five after that yeah so so you know in general Nexus device or during Fashion be sure to press f5 all day long to you know help crash the servers you know we can because that's what we do um but let's hope that doesn't happen but uh I'm gonna be curious if we'll see some new devices if these rumors are there got definitely coming I mean we we know that a new device is coming on you know I pass through the FCC so just a matter of when doesn't necessarily mean it's coming oh it's come lots of things go through the FCC had never seen the light of day it's coming in um so wha yeah that's right for rude devices after I oh that sucks talked about some stuff we do know about such as Scott Anderson making his bed and talking about the app updates yeah I remember bed um okay app updates chrome beta for android has kind of been on a tear lately since I oh it's gotten two updates a lot quicker the biggest notable one was today google translate's whenever you come across like a page that's written in german or a language that is not your native language it will bring up a bar from the bottom asking if you want to translate it pretty cool and it works beautifully still a little bit of bugs with just displaying the you know translated text in my opinion but pretty cool also full screen on tablets which is nice and it was on phones before but it's also nice to have on tablets you know more screen space be able to do more support for a full screen API it's nice also that Google+ integration the scroll down thing a little bit buggy on the most recent app and also a new graph showing your estimated bandwidth savings before it just showed you how much data you actually saved now it has a little bit more of like a the system level you I of how much data you've used kind of like that and then mobile friendly arrow pages kind of cool also the new tab is on the top you don't have to click uh you don't have to hit the tab button and then click new tab it's a one less cap yeah but that wasn't going well um I'm also a lot of apps Derek received card UI updates yeah so card all the things as I said earlier um you know the google play store has a card you I google plus of your rock and Google+ right now on the web watching us you know has cards over the place so Google's moving towards us you know card you I kind of focused off of Google now that you know that that type of a UI and ask obviously they stole this idea from iOS 7 well am sure come on Dan we're getting questions about why you're so anti apple here don't be sayin stuff like that not the one pushing the rumors about how everybody stole this idea for life so anyway so anyway so so cartoony eyes come to a bunch of apps besides the google play store well play music play musics gorgeous we got that last week obviously we got books last week and since then we got magazines you know you two back she was updated before I oh and Google Earth oh they don't really have cards so much but they have the new slide-out menu with the actual menu buttons at the top depicting it's an actual menu and then the Google Shopping got updated that there's just and the Google Drive got updated as well you know these are the Google Drive update is all just as awesome as the music update is when it comes to cards uh Scott you want to talk a bit more about that uh the slide-out us now the Google Drive you were talking about how you were a huge fan of it earlier oh yeah huge fan of it and huge fan of Werther going with it it had a large update to version 1.2 and basically you have a new grid view that makes it easier to find your files a new quick preview lets you view photos and other files from within the app in scanned documents receive the letters for safekeeping and drive this with your camera or a previous file can also download a copy of files to your local device Oh finally yeah which is very nice spreadsheets if you use spreadsheets on a tablet or phone the editor now supports changing fonts colors and alignment which I don't know why it didn't have this before but yeah you can view the properties of files from within the editors which is very nice and lots of bug fixes and visual improvements and my opinion performance improvements as well it's a there's a there's a new feature called scan mean really it's just take a picture but but it's called scan so it's a guy I saw a neat boost case for this today and so let's say you want to keep all of your receipts you know for tax purposes or whatever for a checkbook tracking you know however you want to do it you you want to keep all your receipts well you just scan him in the Google Drive so you take your receipt you open up drive you hit the little Scan button and then basically just take a picture really you you take a picture with it in it you know scans it but it actually does scan it because it does OCR so in Arizona that's fans yes so so now that receipt becomes searchable so if you say when the hell did i buy that oh uh lawn chair you know yeah you need now you can go into drive and just search for launch hair and then it'll find the receipt for you so it is a skin but it's a yeah it's picture here's the don't know OCR is optical optical character recognition it's typically in enterprise-grade scanning software and it's usually pretty pricey yes so it again you're not for your receipt so I mean you don't have to use it for receipt but that was a neat use case which I might try to do so yeah you can search for the text and the text become searchable but a true OCR allows you to edit it no that's not true it is an editable file an editable file OCR doesn't make it editable OCR just makes it searchable oh see oh see oh see artists translate doesn't okay you're outputting the format and if you're putting it out as a PDF that's not editable because it's good yeah that's editable if you have a full version of Adobe either way it has OCR support we don't need to get into semantics if it what it is or isn't it has OCR support I don't know if it's actually editable I didn't try that but I did try scanning and receipt after I saw the article online from remember where those panini idea so you just they just create a folder called receipts and they scannable in there pretty cool then Google Play magazines got updated card you I knew slide-out menu bug fixes flickr updated their app new UI for the app also one terabyte of storage space which is freaking awesome sort of isn't it still just for pictures of videos though yes think about it is there a file size limit like for a file i do not know those a file size limit but if you're looking for a photo locker freeing of your photographer I mean google+ gives you 15 gig so one para by debts is a lot of space but it seems to me like it's overkill for for the way its limit right like it's not just a generic terabyte of space of online cloud storage it is for photos yeah you know but if you're taking a multiple multiple me know I don't know how big they you know fifth 50 meg raw files I'm sure you can fill it up pretty quickly if you're an avid photographer yeah I mean that's why I wonder if there's a file size line because I know you can put videos there so they give you have home videos or DVDs that you burn to your computer if you could store those out there but I mean that's potentially a gigabyte plus biosigns yeah definitely have it will be interesting to if you can do that that's definitely worth it back up your whole video library and the app got a really nice update too yeah it's pretty cool I recommend checking it out if you're into pictures then also the Opera browser got a UI overhaul and it left the beta stage so that's big news and it's really nice it's I mean it's a very popular browser for Android and I know it's a lot of it's a go-to browser for a lot of people that I know chrome is becoming more more so you know acceptable but it's good news and it's pretty cool all right guys we're gonna talk about some devices here um as always if you have any questions feel free to go ahead drop it in the comments for watching the comments on YouTube as well as Google Plus and yes we have to get a lot of comments actually about Scott's bed being made at least like three or four or five d for comment about say yes he he has made his bed if you're tuning in late to the show he that's why he hasn't been here for about three weeks now he actually has been on a a retreat a been going to a seminar daily on how to properly make his bed so she was right it was a free seminar is it he's shaking his head but he knows you're damn well went there it was free alright so so let's talk about some devices up so if you're on big red like this guy and like another guy in here um haha yeah yeah haha you're on verizon um you can now hit the samsung galaxy s4 as of today yay it's a hundred ninety nine dollars with a two-year contract if you don't like contracts 649 dollars you can also actually get it on amazon wireless and save twenty bucks for the two-year contract so you can get it for 179 I don't know how long especially available but it is now so if you want the s4 and your verizon your contracts up or you're gonna be a new customer and save twenty bucks needed for amazon do you know if it's new only earth it's for any rules as well it's for renewals new contracts and new customers you can save 25 for those a lot of times those special deals are for customers only yeah yeah so you might as well save twenty bucks if you can name is on there gonna lie they just might as well offered to renewals because you get another two years of service right so um samsung announced the developer edition for both verizon and 80 but that's yeah that's really irrelevant if you're into a rootin and ramen which why would you want the developer version if you weren't so go ahead and save yourself a couple hundred dollars because Dan Rosenberg which is really well known for cracking motorola devices he took his knowledge and applied it to the samsung galaxy s4 and you can now use his program is called low key to unlock the bootloader of the samsung galaxy s4 so we came up with this he came up with this process prior to verizon releasing it and yeah dirty one elaborate my idea he actually got it to work i believe on the AT&T variant but he didn't release it because he didn't want verizon to do anything crazy beforehand and patch the bug or they exploit that he used i say so he waited until the verizon version hit the store is ok now release it cuz you can't patch it now haha Harry wife yeah smart guy well obviously he figured out unlock the bootloader on one of the one of the Lourdes devices John Locke bootloader on I mean it's it's a very secure device so you know if you want the s4 and you're going to want to put something like cyanogenmod they already have you know I don't know if they're nightlies are available yet but Steve Kondik posted pictures a couple weeks ago with it running on the international or the t-mobile version i believe it was so yeah its nightly as it if you're not already out there going to be coming so now that the verizon one can be unlocked chances are some developer will pick that up and i mean i'm not gonna speak for the CM team but there's a high probability that it'll be it'll be available and when is that coming you know soon always oliver look for tell me to release candidate roughly the time jelly 4.3 it releases um oh come on now so you know you know what I wouldn't see it taking entirely that long because all somebody has to do is get a hold of the google edition of the s4 and then they basically have AOSP for it mean yet minus the verizon birds yeah minus the cdma you know radio minor detail yeah minus the rail this rom on here but it won't work like a phone yeah yeah the rails always the pain in the butt I so let's talk about some numbers real quick the galaxy s4 sells a lot we know this so in the past 25 days it's less than a month they've sold 10 million devices which yeah that's a lot we we know they're gonna sell a lot no surprise you know I'm really blown away that there's 10 million people that want that phone and I know they're gonna keep putting millions more well yeah I mean it did they ask to was the number one selling phone yes three was number one selling phone so obviously s4 I mean they're they're killing it um here's one let's talk about that real quick they they actually had some supply issues weren't able to sell as many in the beginning is they had wanted to they've sold 5 million which which is actually a pretty good number if you think about I mean five million there's it is a very nice number for HTC they should be proud of that it's a big bounce back from where they were with one extra you know it's it's it's doing uh see 490 RR for ya 4 million four hundred ninety or nine hundred and I can't do math it's doing a lot better than the HTC first yes yes first that's already gone down to one dollar because they did you give them away well we would've expected anything 90,000 there we go you don't expect big things but you don't expect it to drop to one dollar on AT&T I'm contract like a week after colors on each chapter was debuted a hundred bucks you know it's like yeah I mean yeah but uh I think it's kind of cool that uh Oh was arrested all right well you think about it so so we all know that H nope we all know that the samsung galaxy s4 has a google edition and we just mentioned well the day that that happened a samsung or a HTC m employee tweeted hey you can spend six hundred forty nine dollars for plastic dot or you can wait everyone's like holy shit the HTC one is getting a AAA OSP stock Android version then HTC execs came out said no no that's not happening wait no they came out and said we're not building in Nexus device yeah they came out and said we're not building a Nexus device basically some excess device either yeah so a lot of people including loss actually last weekend you actually made that point last week on the show and we said yeah they aren't building a Nexus device so Russell holly has been on the show a couple times good friend of mine he actually broke the news about the google edition of the samsung galaxy s4 the night before I oh and everybody basically said your bullshit you're a liar don't know what you're talking about and then dr. da he was right well he seems to know what he's talking about so when he announced today that the HTC One was in fact going to release a senseless version of the one um I believed him I think he knows he's talking about and he he said that we should see an official announcement within the next two weeks so I'm gonna say if you're looking to buy the HTC One wait another week or two if you can you know there might be some big news coming there one so so I I have a question here so that's awesome that HTC is going to do this and you remember their whole marketing thing is we have two big things two big pushes with the HTC One we have boom sound and we have this amazing camera so how are those two things going to work on nonsense wrong I mean his boomsound gonna blow us away and sound is amazing maybe but what about that that that sense camera there's no way in hell the cameras gonna operate the same way so I'm really curious as to you know how that's gonna pan out what you know Dan woody what do you think on that well if HTC was smart and really if HTC Samsung any of these companies were smart what if they would do is build the camera app the way they wanted and make it run on a stock rom then they just replaced the stock camera app once they're done with that when they move on to the next one and continue doing that through all of their custom apps oh and wait now they don't need a custom overlay at all well maybe I don't need to worry about carriers or they can do exactly what Google does and release it through the Play Store and lock it down to only HTC devices so maybe it comes with the stock the stock camera an HTC publishes an app to the Play Store saying the stock camera is cool but if you want to get the sense camera and make it only available to that device yeah oh yeah there's no reason why google has basically through io by not releasing an update to Android and just releasing a bevy of app updates shown we can update our entire ecosystem and platform without touching the underlying operating system there's no reason that OEMs catch missing not at all forgive sworn we live in the updates month and that takes fragmentation and updates and carry your bullshit entirely out of the equation is no way out of integration so speaking of OEMs do you guys watching listening and also in the Hangout right now think that this is going to spawn some type of trend we have the number one Android manufacturer phone manufacturer having a stock Android version now it's really expensive only available in the play store right now who know in an available in the US so how many they really going to sell but HTC is doing it to you know so there's two big-name manufacturers doing it you know and Sony they're very developer friendly friendly they've released AOSP for davaite you know various Xperia devices in the past and as well as the the tablet Z has AOSP available for it too so you know do you think we could see something coming down the line is this is a trend you know devices put out a flagship our manufacturers put a flagship phone and maybe they put out a you know a stock Android version for people that want the hardware but don't want the software means well LG jump on this trend here are we going to see an optimus g pro or g2 with stock Android in the near future it'd be cool well LG already did jump on by releasing the nexus 4 if you want to play on your age is non-nexus love I spilled yeah yeah non-nexus device yeah but if you have an optimist g literally take a nexus 4 rom and flash it and it will boot you might lose network connectivity if you're not on you know the right carrier yeah in depending on what version you're coming from you may need to flash the extra partitions but the nexus 4 is wrong will boot on every other LG right they're identical phone yeah just from the hardware perspective so we already leave a comment here I don't know that I see this becoming a trend with OEMs just because there's not a whole lot of incentive for them to release the devices like this they're going to sell enough of them to make a profit off of it but what I think they'll realize is all they have to do is we'll publish the AOS decode that will run underneath of their own there you have their skin publish it to the web somewhere and that's the people who are interested in this that's all they want is the code the underlying software even if they releases a package rom without the code it be hugely beneficial to the custom development community they don't even go out of their way to buy a special AOSP device if HTC or samsung or LG is just going to release the AOSP software for all right Dan so we have a common here from galen 20k and I think that a lot of people were might be feeling this way so he said you know the HTC One is the absolute best phone that he's ever owned and you guys should really tried it if you haven't so so that brings up a good point if you do own the HTC One what are your thoughts about an HTC One you know stock Android senseless edition coming out are you going to be upset that this was announced you know a a month or two later you know what is it going to make you want to get that device are you happy with what you have and you you you like sense you know five point oh uh let us if you already have an HTC one you should not be upset at all this coming out means that the brom itself will go into your device with almost no effort whatsoever yeah another on the topic of well the trend start catching is one hundred percent depending on carriers because I think the biggest problem with stock is not that stock is stock is that stock doesn't exist on carriers like verizon or sprint I mean sprint you know you've had more Nexus devices on sprint than before but but the verizon the only new flagship phone you have right now is a galaxy s4 and that's sucks man it's not that if you want a galaxy s4 that's good if you don't want a galaxy s4 you've got no options whatsoever for a new flagship device so he releases the s4 Google edition and what cares is it's on HD mt and t-mobile in which both of those carriers you can already use the Nexus device on so maybe it's a better device but it's also a lateral move so until they get these devices on a carrier like Verizon or somebody like that and by the way verizon we hate you for this then that's going to be when you know if AOSP can really catch on with the masses because until you know even when the Nexus has come to verizon it doesn't come every single year you can't reliably to say I'm going to wait for the nexus on verizon because you don't know if it's coming or not yeah now let's uh let's talk about another device here and which is related to verizon so this past week we saw some more some more leaks and some more confirmations I guess about the upcoming Motorola X phone we saw in X phone with sprint compatibility pass through the FCC so generally that means it's probably coming sometime soon you know once it passes through the FCC and the guys over at droid-life we're able to get a hold of the drivers file from motorola and by looking at the ini file it mentioned a device that would be most likely verizon's model number so as the state you said it's compatible with sprint but not verizon well it was the sprint sprint radios so I can't possibly imagine Motorola being stupid enough to build a device that works on sprint that's not also capable of working on verizon they would have to actively go out of their way to make that happen or maybe verizon doesn't want the device and the no my point is the hardware they're putting in it is going to accomplish those goals they would have to go out of their way to find some obscure manufacturer who's making really crappy hardware to come up with something that's only going to run on sprint or as a visitor choices remember the at least the SOC that's in there now isn't isn't a newer Snapdragon processor I believe it was just the dual-core s4 yea which was would have been the same processor that was in the galaxy s3 yeah females really what is capable of simultaneously running on Verizon Sprint AT&T and t-mobile but my point is is that there was a samsung sprint variant there was a samsung verizon variant so it's not like it's isn't the outer if this is you know it is someone at something outlandish people have done it with the radio in both of those devices was identical that was the carrier's pushing their branding on to samsung well maybe it's gonna happen again it mean it's certainly good I don't think Motorola's ever released a you know cross carrier device like that either well they do have devices that now have you know global you know gsm support right right i mean a lot of the verizon Motorola's have the global support but I mean I don't think Motorola's released a device on multiple US carriers like under the same brand like the same brand name yeah they haven't done your samsung has done yeah well so we'll see what happens here I mean obviously this is just speculation based off of some files that show up on the FCC's website so anything's possible but we do know that devices are coming since you know we've seen a sprint variant in a supposedly sprint or AT&T variant to show up as well so usually that means things are coming with multiple model numbers the same phone start showing up um on two devices that we can confirm Google glass if you are an i/o 12 winner or a signer upper this does not apply to you already have your glass or it's being shipped to you you picked it up already at I over 13 so if you're an if I had glass contest winner this news applies to you yesterday Project Glass announced that divider invites purchase links are going to start being sent out to winners and almost immediately after that notice went out people started reporting hey I got my purchase link I got my invite link so there's already people that are picking it up next week from the if I had glass contest so what's what's that mean you're gonna have to or did they win the opportunity to abide by oh you want the opportunity to buy it yeah you won the opportunity to spend sixteen hundred dollars plus travel yeah that's fifty hundred dollars plus tax plus travel but I just rounded up to 1600 so you can go to la New York City or mountain view to pick it up pick it up in person yet paid up in person you have to get basically I'm thinking that I could be wrong on this but Google thought that the i/o attendees are smarter than the average bear because they're generally a developer or a tech savvy tech enthusiast so they could probably figure out a lot of glass themselves whereas if I had glass winners are just random everyday average Joe people a lot of the times who may not be that text ad I might need the hands-on training on how to use it I'm I could be wrong with that kind of makes sense to maloneys so I so I'm thinking that's why if I had glass users have to go in person to pick it up so and that the Terms of Service was updated yesterday to say you can have it shipped to you if you're an i/o 12 sign up if you're an if I had glass winter you have to go and pick it up so John and I um Scott did you win as well okay so John and aya haven't gotten our purchase links yet but very soon we're gonna have to decide as well as many of you probably watching right now what you know what do you want you want you are cold you want she'll do want tangerine sky or cotton you know that you know if you're deciding to spend the 1,500 bucks that's the next decision to make what color are you gonna go for John hmm ok purposely the single ladies you know what I'm a fashionista apparently so I started saying to myself you know what I want sky like that stands out its it purdy you know I said I went tangerine because it's it stands out it's kind of cool-looking and I start thinking myself you know orange in blue tangerine sky those colors don't go with everything you know you know fashion wise so kind of limit your wardrobe you know you know you know some things could clash so uh you know I'm thinking the charcoal and shale which is black and gray um might be the way to go and then I thought white I don't know if I'm able to rock white down you know I don't know if that's me that's why it's just not gonna blend it well um so uh google glass yeah hopefully a couple weeks John and I'll we sitting here doing like hangout on air ception will be like doing it like in front of the webcam and then we'll be doing it on the on glass two anyway so John let's not talk about glass and let's talk about Nvidia shield pre-orders went up and we didn't have a chance to talk about it last week's weird I oh and all the things you want to yak about that for a minute yeah they uh they started may twentieth which if you order them now you can get it for 350 which is actually a little bit cheaper than I thought they were going to be I thought they were probably going to target about 500 bucks but it's going to ship in June and if you missed what shield is about it's basically kind of like an android mini tablet as far as the display goes it's a 5-inch 720p display it also has an integral controller integrated speakers which the speakers from everywhere reviewer I've seen that's held them said they're actually pretty amazing considering it's a portable device of the battery unit is gigantic I mean it's I can't remember what it is but it's way more than most tablets have um it runs bone stock Android and it does come with a Tegra 4 so you're going to get the Tegra platform and all the Tegra optimized you know Nvidia's own games but the biggest thing is it links up with a any kepler nvidia desktop GPU which is a dt k 6 50 or higher and you can actually stream your pc games by a steam and play them on the shield device so you could play Skyrim on a portable controller shield device or whenever you felt like playing so that's just kind of the biggest marketing thing behind it I get that in videos trying to push like their own technology with that but there's absolutely no technical reason why you need to have an nvidia kepler GPU in order to stream content from your computer to anything be interesting so you do need to have some kind of a modem yeah but it doesn't matter you even don't worry here or so Nvidia would have you believe yeah the big things are drying so did you do the hard to keep you actions to the secret like to the desktop computer which I can't possibly imagine they're doing they're just trying to sell new things I can't remember it there were some parts of it that did require because Tegra 4 is the only one that can do it to it required some kind of hooks and the cap architecture to be able to do from the o know if it's from the cathode side is really really bad dirty it could be and I'm not going to analyze that part of it but there was some requirement in terms of you imagine of course the low wedding cards would struggle to keep up with an emulator being interesting anyway to see how the device does i don't i don't expect it to be anything more than something to appease try to sell more desktop GPUs well I'll tell you what it's probably gonna be better than the oh yeah that thing is I have that thing and if my three almost four year old son didn't love playing it I would put it on ebay already that think sucks um I will give the full review later moving on Dan yeah so there's a some interesting patent filings this week the microsoft vs motorola case which is in two parts and I've spoken before about the first part of that where the judge arbitrarily decided to set a friend rate because you know he thinks he has that kind of power um the second part of that though the judge sided with Motorola I'm pretty sure that's the only time he sided with Motorola ever in this case but agreed to have the rest of it be heard by a jury trial which isn't really all that beneficial to Motorola considering the jury pool is pretty much the population of Microsoft employees so you win some you lose some on that one really the judge kind of had to side with Motorola because otherwise he probably would have gotten himself into some trouble for just flagrantly violating the law pretty much if any party in any litigation asks for a jury trial at any point that's the end of the discussion kiri they get a jury trial that's the way the law works once you want one that's it that's all you got to do this case originally started in Wisconsin and then got folded into the Seattle case and in the Wisconsin filings motorola very explicitly and on the record asked for a jury trial and then microsoft basically tried to say clean they didn't that doesn't matter mmm yeah it really did matter and so the judge actually sided with motorola on that one the other Motorola case from Wisconsin was the motor the apple vs motorola case the judge posner had heard and tossed out basically saying this is waste of my time you people don't actually want anything get out oh and attach prejudice to that because I don't want to hear from you again so motorola and apple are both appealing it on different grounds and motorola very recently filed their brief in their key love it essentially arguing that judge Posner's ruling pretty much says if you've contributed your patents to a standard you get no more rights over your patents ever again there's no infringement you can't sue anybody even if they are willfully infringing and utterly and completely refusing to take a license like say for example Apple who told a judge we really don't care what value you set on these patents we're still not going to license them so when you're facing a potential licensees utterly and completely refusing to license your standards essential patents you should probably still be able to seek an injunction against those people because otherwise by submitting your patents to a standard you are making them worthless and useless so Motorola probably has a pretty good like to stand out on that one Apple's appeal is less penetrating and more about wining pretty much about how we should be getting more thought and care and money but not actually putting up any reasons why Posner's decision wasn't valid um in other Apple legal news the apple vs samsung to case which is the one that's mostly centered around search and they had previously attempted to get injunctions against the Galaxy Nexus over that case Apple is now trying to fold the galaxy s4 and potentially illegal now itself into that case so they're really now very much directly going after Google for search you know because Siri does the same damn shit that Google now does right because you ask it a question verbally ask a question and it returns results which apparently Apple forgets that Google search has been doing since Eclair well then he got the fact this year was bought my apple as a yes at the existed RT voice actions about any large lake since 2010 Siri was Archana by Apple in 2011 and Google now is all about contextual data which Syria's naari it would not even more than that seriously Apple is now trying to attack google / search related patents do you really think Google doesn't have prior art or better patents on search than you do the biggest search provider in the world by far that's what you're going to go after you're gonna go after Google about search rectangles and rounded corners and black devices search is what you're going to go after Google with you nibble around the edges and don't go after Google for everything else and all of your other ridiculous nonsense like invalid bounce back and invalid unlock and invalid this that and the other patents but search is what you settle on is you're like missile for google that's your thermonuclear war I'm pretty sure that's more setting off a grenade in your own house alright so any other patent news no that's really it just to Apple making themselves look like fools I think we have time for some big carrier announcements oh yeah yes a verizon had an announcement this week uh at ctia 2013 verizon has announced a new store partner before the event the CEO said they're gonna have an announcement that we're gonna want to tweet about everybody was really thinking this was going to be the HTC one right for verizon because because she said we have an announcement you're gonna want to tweet about me it's huge right yeah you think it's big news something that people are gonna be excited to that in fact it was just Jennifer Lopez I mean don't get me wrong Jennifer Lopez is nice to look at but campaign not really something that gets me all ready to tweet about it oh my god Jennifer Lopez ctia yes announced evil mobile which has social shopping stores for Latinos and stores opening in la New York and Miami so I essentially love verizon know so you're gonna be able to go to these stores as well as Facebook and do social shopping in its it's for Latinos which is fine she thinks it's an untapped market and that's fine but do we really need a whole entire row on shopping store dedicated to that yeah kind of a lot of Latinos and I don't know any of them that are like oh my god I was gonna get a phone and I was just so blown away waiting for a carrier the kid just to me oh my god I need Jennifer Lopez kate is for my phone where's my clitoris cum I don't know any Latino who's sitting there thinking God if only Jennifer Lopez had tried to sell me this smartphone then I would have bought one from verizon my god we should do eat this now what now to be honest with you Dan the most interesting thing about that is is she's actually not just a talking head she's not just a pretty face she's not just a spokesperson she's actually a major stakeholder in a Viva movil i gets actually you know partly her company so it's she's actually doing it you know which she does I mean real the clothes line anything to or good i I don't I just think I don't think there's no audience for the market she's trying I think that Verizon trolled everybody ed and it basically showed that ctia as this darkest us mobile-focused conference is dying in bed I think that's what the message was that Verizon wanted us to tweet yeah don't waste your breath uncie's you guys didn't ctia merge with uh what do they merge with something else to become super mobile or something like that what's it called yeah those Goods call like super mobile she'll like that relevance and it failed okay so more importantly if you are of Latin descent and if this made you excited if you are going to now walk into one of these locations and or like the page on Facebook let us know because we don't think that's that exciting maybe we're maybe we're missing the buck maybe Jennifer Lopez has more cool than we think so let us know I'm actually very serious or knowledge of what it's like to be a Latino than I do yeah but I just don't feel like Verizon AT&T t-mobile and Sprint aren't already reaching the Latino community I don't also think t-mobile sprint and and no AT&T are like damn it why don't we get in on this right next week 80 for so long next week Eva what's her name eva mendes becomes book person for another anyway I should be come on Carly for t-mobile yeah so yeah she if she becomes the new Carly all right so uh Scott Anderson made his bed biggest highlight of the week or HTC One stock Android you let us know in the comments as well um that's a tough one for me I don't know which ones bigger better I'm gonna have an ego and I'm gonna say me well you know what Scott you haven't done it in a while let everybody know where they can find us on this vast thing we call the internet you find this at android authority calm if you're watching us on YouTube or listening to us you'd be watching us on YouTube you'd be listening to us on soundcloud soundcloud uh podbean been a while since I've done this so I'm a little bit rusty I didn't make any mistakes when I did this last week when the gun not a single one I'm just gonna cry now this is just you can find us everywhere you always find us right alright guys so thanks for watching let's know in the 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