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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm dare cross I'm Scott Anderson not getting Charlton and I'm Johnathan Franklin this week on android authority on air we're going to talk about the motorola x phone also known as the Moto X or talk about the new announced HTC one google edition that was just announced today very exciting or talk about some other devices that were rumored and also announced this past week some app updates so I'm actually a very interesting app updates and some root and rom and information CM 10.1 all the things then we're gonna have a big lengthy discussion about you know the State of the Union the state of the Nexus program we all with all these stock vanilla Android devices coming out it's very interesting times out we're in it's something you know a lot of android fans have wanted for a long time so I'm excited to talk about it so let's uh let's get started in and talk about my my favorite thing I think that we're going to talk about tonight the Moto X phone the Moto X we have heard this for forever it's been leaked all over the place we've seen screenshots we've seen leaked images you know from from out of I wasn't out of Vietnam you know we've seen a phone that looked like a nexus 4 met a razr maxx you know it was kind like a squarer looking nexus for all you know ever since then we've heard nexus we've heard motorola x film is my role expert on that we saw job postings on linkedin that were removed after everybody found out about them for an ex foam project manager you know we've heard people from google specifically you know Larry Page and Eric Schmidt say we're really excited about what Motorola is coming down within their pipeline we heard that you know phone should last all day long long you shouldn't be tethered to a charger and Larry Page has kept you know he keeps saying phones shouldn't go splat when you drop them so all these things keep pointing towards a an awesome phone and a phone for motorola to bring them out of the ashes because motorola hadn't been doing so well in the past so many years compared to you know other people other companies in this space so we're you know we're really excited for what Motorola can do because they invented the damn smart phone you know what I mean like motor would you guys going to disagree sure of the sparkle okay okay I'm sorry they invade the cell phone but could you you guys want to can you a disagree or agree with me that motorola radios are amazing like they make some of the best radios do don't accept any kind of design out of anybody you know they really put a big focus on antenna placement and you know their software stack I mean drivers and everything man Motorola phones have just have a lot of things are yours sir paul deferral you know as far as i can remember so I'm really excited for this so anyways yes the motorola x phone aka the Moto X is they're calling it is real we found out at all things digital akad 11 this clean water call it be 11 be honest with you but anyway I better let along it that's how long it is also it's the 11th digital all things digital conference okay so that was you know you learn something new every show okay so after all things D akad 11 this year we found out that the Motorola X phone the Moto X is real and what's interesting is they're advertising it as the first smartphone that will be fully assembled fully built in America and though they're making a very big deal about that saying that you know no other smartphone has been ever been built in America before they're assembled overseas and now don't get me wrong that you know all the parts are coming from the US you know their you know their display screen and the processor most likely are going to be built over C or manufactured overseas I'm gonna be shipped over here in the US then though you know take everything and do what they do best mix and match it all up and come out uh smartphone somehow so that's that's in it that's an interesting take you know motorola says that they're going to be able to reach consumers you know faster maintain high quality control and all sorts of other stuff that the reasoning for building here and in the US and that's that's inside we really haven't seen that before yeah i think the thing that I find most interesting about that is there talking about a phone that speak about later this year that they're going to build entirely in America meanwhile and like on the same website where they're bragging about that they direct people to where they can get hired for jobs at the factory they are starting to build right now in Texas yeah yeah yeah I don't really understand how they're gonna be selling a phone to the public in a couple of months produced at a factory that they're still hiring staff or and building they're gonna rent out a whole bunch of houses and have workers no doubt and get somewhere else and those job postings are not to build this particular device but the next device well it wasn't there was a nokia facility before then so i guess maybe they bought the tooling while they were at it but i mean they're still not to be too late to get an item if I agree but it probably won't take as long is that building grew scratch yeah so it's down in Fort Worth Texas if anybody was curious where it's at it's in Dallas I think it's tell us for work then the Dallas for Dallas Fort Worth is basically the same area it's like two miles apart and it's one big massive metropolis dallas-fort Worth area so they so you know we still really don't know a lot about the Moto X in terms of hardware we've heard a lot of different speculations a lot of different rumors you know so we're not gonna really talk about that because you know what we don't need to rumormonger about this phone anymore we've we've done it enough but let's talk about what we do know at all things D motorola said that the Moto X was going to be you know very contextually aware you know it's gonna know when it's in your pocket and pulled out of your pocket whether you're biking you're driving you're walking and now you're saying well that sounds familiar a lot of phones can do that now based on you know Google API it's and which is correct because they also said that the phone is going to have her heavily leveraged you know then the new google api is that were announced at i/o so you know what it kind of reminds me of initially you know hearing that is the s4 s3 all of Samsung's bloatware regarding their you know it'll pause the video we were looking away and stuff like that that's right and it it initially reminds me of but hopefully they do it well and actually give some use to it and not like blow like something that you would always want to have on yeah s health really taps and all those sensors which that's probably one of the least offensive one of their Footwear apps but it's still an app that you probably use the third party for anything yeah we're pulling the phone up to your your head and having an answer the phone call I mean that's like a usable feature but you know it needs to be foolproof and it means to work all the time you know face unlock was kind of a has turned into kind of like a oh yeah you know not really use it that much I mean there are some people that use it but it doesn't work on representing the time but that's what google really needs they need something that uses the sensors that works all very well and isn't considered bloat and something that people use as you know an afterthought yeah I mean the thing is google is is making all of this data accessible to anybody and Motorola is trying to actually take that data and make it useful and apply it so I definitely hope that they can do that well and even if they only do it okay did such a good direction for them to be going in because they're doing it in a different way than Samsung's I mean you're right about sales on the tip and we're back on air and we are back I believe we may or may not have dropped off there there yes if you guys can see us please comment thank you yeah that was interesting my whatever you know taking the technical difficulties the the live streaming bug that you know happens from time to time I don't know I lost the connection he used to have a lot but now it's better I haven't had it happen in months look you know what that says yeah but it actually wasn't it wasn't a google hangout disconnection like my actually my actual machine lost network connection like my my uh no comcast decided you know what we're we're gonna cut your internet for a second which is odd because I have an impeccable internet connection normally so I know well whatever we're back hey hopefully so those of you that are listening to this later yeah we're saying and watching it later sorry about all the screw-ups I'm sure that was not something you planned on okay hey so what we talking about and remember my rolex gun motorized phone and sensors and them using them down using the sensors and I think that by going in this direction and not going in the ridiculous assault of color and bloat that is TouchWiz or just the dated and excessiveness own sense if they're going to go with a stripped-down you I that's maybe just lightly modified like go to blur had become before google bought anyway uh and then there you know there s stuff for their bloat is actually useful contextual awareness you know applications I think that's excellent but I think even just pushing the contextual awareness and taking advantage of these new AP is is going to push other developers and other applications and other thinkers to push even further for those of you who are listening or watching what do you think a good idea or implementation that moto or any type of phone manufacturer could do that would not be considered below that you would want to use on a daily basis I'm kind of curious as to what they can actually do because it's going to be something that's going to have to be useful but not bloated up on the topic of that Motorola already has one of the best contextual apps Smart Actions which is actually a really good app and adding in Google's current api's to Smart Actions just by itself would actually help it out a lot you know especially if you could um kind of create contextual location-based stuff that doesn't use a lot power it would really kind of help it out a lot it would it would help them make smart actions more in using existing its average user you know what I mean cast asker and stuff is powerful but people just get confused with it and John think about using the new fencing or mesh location API you know with that I think that's that that could be big so I'm excited as to what they're going to roll out so what the what carriers is this coming on none have been announced yet but if you watch this last week where you follow Android news you'll know that the Moto X has passed through the FCC with sprint radios sprint compatibility with ATT compatibility and with verizon compatibility they announced that there would be heavy US carrier support so that makes me believe probably t-mobile would be supported as well you'd be very surprised at the AT&T version also run onto yeah so yeah exactly so just because it hasn't we haven't seen it yet and this is all speculation based off of us reading a document at the FCC doesn't mean it's not coming or doesn't like dan said doesn't mean it's not supported so fingers crossed confidence extremely high all major carriers will support it in the u.s. question do you guys think that this is going to be pushing the envelope with regards to hardware specs or is this going to be more so a high-end hardware specs but more so more features as a selling point I think it depends on when it comes out let's say it comes out towards the end of the year then yes it'll be using a step this summer so I know it's coming out this summer okay so two most late summer I think they'll be trying to push a Snapdragon 800 into it and and yeah pushing the pushing the hardware okay so so I'm gonna say do you remember a few months back you know rumors were that this was going to be a truly affordable phones gonna be low end specs and it was going to be a phone that it was a mid-range phone available to everybody and and that that that you know a lot of people like okay that's cool cheap phone and it's not that you know the hardware is not horrible but then you know we heard yesterday that Motorola said that the that the ex line is going to be the future it's going to be their new focus they're not good I don't think they're going to start out a major overhaul to the company and into their line with something that's yeah you know that's something that's not gonna have good specs something that's not going to be flagship I really hate saying that word but flagship ask you know it I I think that they're gonna do good with it I think they're gonna been processed and they should yeah because you know this is they're coming back mmm you know I mean uh how long has it been since they bought more raw ability the deal closed last summer okay so it's been it will be roughly a year and then hopefully that's enough I did the first device that Motorola's put out that will have been fully designed since they were on my google i'd say like eighty percent yeah i would say they're probably working with a current product line but that's not necessarily horrible because yeah in like the razor wasn't a bad phone it was really late to the party but it wasn't worse than the biggest thing that Motorola has to do from a hardware perspective is improve on cameras and displace those are the two biggest items because the bill qualities always been there I always I liked the feel of the Kevlar I think they should just should have done a better job and use like a darker as so it didn't look like Kevlar or the droid x nothing was a beast oh the droid x was built like a tank I think a lot of people had that phone yeah but the other three names do not not release a moto x max three months later oh god I I don't think that they'll do that hopefully they learned over mu dou X qh I don't worry Danny I don't want to see that I really don't oh yeah so we have some user comments here let's uh hit a few those up here lets me move on another topic so Michael Brown asks any thoughts on a galaxy nexus 2 or a nexus 4 cdma version for sprint or for verizon um i'm going to say wow I would love that kind of a verizon customer but yeah that's not gonna happen you know I I think I think Michael I think you and I will have to hold out for the next best thing to a true Nexus and get the X phone that's that's why I pin you guys agree with that yeah gonna be very surprised if another nexus branded device ever runs on verizon see Megan I don't like I don't expect verizon to get paid Nexus until an AWS could completely kill it but until there's open access to the LTE network and cdma is not a factor I don't expect to see on Nexus I'll expect to see more developer edition phones that nobody buys until somebody just puts on a phone that can't be cracked and the other thing I would expect is typical verizon any variant of a phone you get is going to be demonstrably worse than anything you'd get on any other carrier it's gonna come bloated it's going to come with stupid modifications that shouldn't have been made and it's gonna have a locked bootloader so developer additions and just you just expect to get well I mean verizon's in a little bit of a slump right now because they just tend to devices until Christmastime and milk everybody then but yeah I you your Galaxy S line your flagship phones like that are going to be what you're going to see on verizon I doubt you're going to see a OSP device on it for a while you know in and speaking of verizon let's uh hit up another question here x shocks z100 on youtube says you know what about the verizon HTC One and you know that's that's unconfirmed that's based off of rumors and leaks you know evleaks is generally pretty good I know pretty much what evleaks says generally turns out to be true so if he puts out a leaked image that shows the HTC One on verizon and if you know FCC has a ad LX plus phone that looks internally exactly like the HTC One chances are it sounds like it's gonna come out but you know that the thing with the rumors is in speculations you never know I that would be great for HTC if it did happen I think there's a great for them and great for Verizon Verizon hasn't put out a phone in seven months so something needs to happen soon it's kind of it's kind of crappy on verizon's in that the one would be out that long and they would at least not announce it where the s4 came out because there are a lot of people that would like to have you know i mean there's a it's not easy but it's not surprising no it's just crappy that they wouldn't bryci j hey got something coming we're working on something for you guys verizon treats manufacturers like crack them this is not they almost single-handedly killed Paul by ordering a million devices and then refusing to pay for them hmm right like that's what caused all to die but they got stuck with all these only run on verizon devices that verizon asked them to build that they then couldn't sell and so let's around all over the place look at the what did they end up calling at the verizon merge which was basically the ebo shift on verizon that had been rumored and like gone through the SEC it didn't come out until like a year and a half later alright so let's talk about the HTC One since we're talking about it as well let's talk about the HTC one google edition that our Google Experience Google additional everyone call that was announced today as well it's pretty much exactly what it sounds like it's the HTC one that runs stock Android yeah it's going to be available the same date as the samsung galaxy s4 Google edition which is jun 26 the sgs4 google edition is going to cost 650 bucks the HTC one is going to cost 600 gonna be fifty dollars cheaper which is not I mean don't get me wrong when you spend 600 bucks what's another 50 but but 50 bucks is 50 bucks so that's nice that's a little bit cheaper so yeah that is the same as they cost of which sense and touch miss respect please mom yeah so if you were to buy a a and the subsidized if you were to buy an unsubsidized or the developer edition of these phones or an unlocked version of these phones they would cost the same price same price yeah and you got to remember that the galaxy s4 doesn't have a developer edition available like the s3 did so this is basically the developer edition and as well with the HTC one so it's going to be available just like the s4 Google edition will be available on AT&T and t-mobile so a lot of people are at a few questions about you know software well well it will beats work you know will the sense camera work will the boom sound work well you know it its stock Android it's not it's not sense so we'll Beats Audio work yes because but are you going to have an icon pop up and say hey look beats is playing no you're not going to have a red icon pop up and let you know that beats is being played you're gonna have to go old school and your ears to determine that higher quality audio is playing and that's okay you don't need to see a red icon all you need to know is it I got some good quality audio in sorry it will work but there's no icon yeah yeah there's not gonna be a toggle on and off you're not gonna know it's a bunch of settings of the hardware yes I I'm assuming there's gonna be an app that comes out that says you know like a widget somebody might come up with some he a rooted phone you know what if you know what if you missed the icon if you don't know if you're having a good quality audio plan or not you know yours don't work too well route it someone's gonna make an icon and I'm just on that line that's gonna happen alright awesome beats which people are rolling into every room that they can get awesome what's a DJ yeah so uh yeah the rest of that stuff is all no proprietary HTC software and so is the IR blaster going to work no you're not gonna have an IR blaster so you can't have it be because there's no ir blaster support in stock android and so you can't have a control your you can't have it be remote control stock android you know what I'm sure somebody will port 1 over you know pick the IR blaster out of the device go yeah its food can't I are blast the problem is that it doesn't have software to let it bleed end somebody's going to come along and write this offer so Dan is there going to be so support you know senses know exactly so is HTC software so if you're somebody that that needs to do so you can't do it but you know what you can do photosphere and you can do all the other cool auto awesome stuff with google Plaza instant uploads and all that so you know and the other pixel technology is independent of the software so it's still gonna take 4 megapixel pictures yeah but there i mean it's still going to be the you know super enriched pics yeah exactly 30 special there any special pixels there also so some people asking questions about the buttons you know because the the HTC One has some weird buttons on you know it the back button and the home button are swapped and there's no you know middle button it's just HTC logo so how the house on the right yeah exactly so how's that gonna work so the home button over on the right if you hit home while it goes home if you long press it you know you hold it in for a second Google now will pop up if you long press the back button you'll get the recents menu so it's it'll be programmed around inside the Android code to get to work it's just not going to be you know what you're used to on a regular in nexus asked device this really isn't particularly complicated I think this is a dominate that given plan out let me go to buttons that accomplish for actions I think that's a lot better than wasted screen real estate for three buttons that accomplish three actions I agree I just want buttons to do think oh I don't care where they are have a question here in relation to what we're what we're talking about here Justin says do we think that the Google HTC One will be successful and you know and I I'd say you know successful is a relative term um is it going to sell 5 million devices I wouldn't say I would say no um it's it's gonna be for you know the specific niche market it's going to be for people like you that are watching this right now that actually know and understand and care about this kind of thing will it sell 1 million oh my god yeah I mean I don't even think they're gonna make that I think that it's really just for people that are enthusiasts that want this thing it because you know what Android isn't a one-size-fits-all platform it's about choice and that's what this is this this gives us choice knows what they're doing this on a note that has been rumored for HTC today and that's that they're going to make the google edition rom essentially an option for people that already have the HTC One and chose to take the HTC down my mom so if you already own an HTC One you can google edition eyes yours pretty easily I'm flashing your bra because it's identical hardware so huh I think that the measure of success of the google edition is kind of irrelevant in fact I'd be very surprised anyway actually specifically tracks it because it's essentially just another identical phone with slightly different software you can very easily pick between phones well though okay what your hand but the thing if you if you buy the if you get a subsidized home and you've got an unlock of you know the ability to unlock which somebody like Verizon is not going to give you that but you know the majority of them do a TS can be unlocked and you you haven't really have the choice between sense or AOSP and can go right between both of them I don't think the end it's not just the one I don't think the one or the s4 Google edition are going to be particularly you know successful in sales numbers yeah it will give some sustainability to the devices a year and a half from now because you know good and well that Samsung and HTC on their proprietary software are just not going to update these devices but you're going to have something that works out of the box whenever relatively close to when a new Android release comes out you're going to have something that's going to be functional it's not going to be three months worth of begging the developer community to get bugs fixed or anything you're just going to be ready to go like a like a nexus is that part of it is really exciting for anybody that has the device even somebody that doesn't buy a google edition version of it yeah I mean I think really the these google edition devices I think the physical devices themselves are completely and utterly irrelevant it's just another s4 another HTC One this isn't anything new at all the only important thing is the cub the Tony cousin got heels revised is going to be available and open source for these devices they obviously aren't going to open source their own proprietary overlays but that doesn't matter it means that when you get your droid DNA you don't have to wait six months for somebody to hack iOS be honored it means in a this is something that carrier that device makers do going forward and do sort of at lunch as opposed to funds after launch I mean it's really going to open up the development community whether anybody buys a single specially branded google edition version or not because once you have a device of any addition the codes going to run on it and that's all the exits the code okay so there let's talk about a smaller announcement Derek smaller yeah okay so good mini so if you like Scott you like things they're a little bit smaller you can't handle something is is big in your hands so you might like the Samsung Galaxy s4 mini uh it's a 4.3 inch mo with qhd screen you know so it's not it's not the most impressive screen but I don't know think it's supposed to be I think it's just supposed to look like a smaller s4 on the outside and the inside is nothing like it it's an S fail on just regular it's an s4 on less roids and have you get like the we have come to the day and age where a 4.3 inch screen is a mini screen did you guys think we'd ever be here no back when the droid x was out as of the evo original eager people what everybody think that was going to be the small oh man it baffles me and said oh so besides a smaller screen you know it's it's smaller all around the eight gig storage 8 megapixel camera now that the front facing cameras 1.9 the batteries in nineteen hundred million power does come with android 4.2 point2 like i said it's an s4 mini and that the processor is we don't really know but it's probably going to be a snapdragon 400 it's going to be 1.7 gigahertz dual-core processor so Samsung didn't really come out and say what it is but azhar it'll be a Snapdragon 400 so it'll be a little bit less powerful I guess said it's it's not I don't like calling it an s4 mini because it doesn't have the same specs it's like a it's like me no matter the HTC One S that's what they call it okay you know you know in here York 1002 at aim 4.3 inch AMOLED qhd screen it's got a slightly faster newer processor right but the same underlying architecture and Qualcomm nake yeah yeah all right so another another device you know yeah anybody ever play with the HTC flyer from long as that Alec three years ago you know uh HTC Flyer was before its time in my opinion it was it was a honeycomb tablet there was a 7-inch honeycomb tablet back before seven inch tablets were cool you know nope nobody nobody used a 7-inch tablet you know it was like oh it's a 7-inch tablet way to 10 you know it was and they didn't sell a whole lot of them they didn't their breath what's that listen to kind of stylus and gingerbread yeah yeah well you get came with Gingerbread and it was upgraded the honeycomb open already column oh yes but it was a huge tablet and the only other one the correct me if I'm wrong was the original Galaxy Tab from Samsung at that time that was John gingerbread so wrong yeah well that had countless Chinese she not knock off seven inch brands okay right so in so anyway so hi yes I had a chance to play with one two and a half three years ago whenever that was it and I liked the flyer it was neat it was a nice it was a nice device it was actually faster than my acer iconia 10 inch tablet that I had at the time I I liked it um so it's one we're talking about you know why am I going down memory lane well good ol evleaks he lets us know basically what we need to know well we need to know it and he told the world that HTC is coming out with a t6 was that was the you know that the model number so similar to you know like the one became the m7 so that's in the backwards the m7 became the one so the HTC t6 is a rumored 5.9 inch smartphone not tablet but the reason I compared to the flyer was because there's only an inch difference and I love the love the flyer I really did so i was stylus and did Emma stylist so so so this is going to be I hate this town term phablet but this is people calling a phablet I hate that term it's just a big ass phone rumored specs are a Snapdragon 800 which you know isn't readily available yet so who knows you know it may end of the summer maybe the fall when this thing actually comes to fruition you know two gigs of ram 16 gig internal with a micro SD slot and a 3300 milliamp hour battery and an ultrapixel real rear camera so it's kind of like an HTC One meteoroids meets the ultra fire in size and it just all sorts a badass I I mean this is really clear answer to the galaxy note yeah exactly yeah well the galaxy note and the optimus g pro yeah yeah so so I think it's cool ah man if this thing comes to verizon I don't know I like HTC devices i do but you know at that time i'll be rocking the Moto X so i won't want anything to do with it uh this is a question for Derek why doesn't anyone ever give that the droid DNA props why doesn't anyone ever give the droid DNA props all right so I happen to be a a person you know what I could rant about this for honestly we're gonna have a show special where I just talked about the DNA for an hour Kevin open this is what you caused just this is right I'm gonna try you started I'm going to give a two-minute max try for one minute discussion on this phone this phone has a gorgeous screen arm it the screens awesome um is 1080p um yeah yeah I like the screen alright so that's that's the only thing in my opinion that is good about this phone you know the it's hard as hell to press the power button up here you have to like you can't let you can't like cut your fingernails for like two weeks you can press the power button you know like I've never owned a phone where you said I have to like you degrade your own personal hygiene so you can like turn it on and off like um I hate hardware keys i do so and i hate sense and this thing now has a ninety percent working AOSP rom so I'm not the best person to talk about the DNA the DNA has a great screen battery life isn't pathetic if you like sense it's a nice phone if you're an Android enthusiasts that likes to crack flash things you're not going to like the phone but it has a gorgeous screen and that's why I bought this device because I wanted something they had a an awesome screen and I couldn't use the nexus 4 on verizon obviously so I it's a it's an it not a bad phone I I'm a critical bastard because I hate it and I hate it for reasons that most people wouldn't hate it okay thank you for that i rant oh that that's enough that's enough all right I pologize a reoccurring question in the comments is will the X phone the Moto X compete with the s4 and the HTC One well I think we we speculated a little bit earlier that we think it'll definitely be a no high-end phone and not a mid-range device so I definitely think absolutely they will give them a run for their money similarly expect or else even better specs I think it has to be better Spectre they're in trouble right so so she'll dois wants to know why I hate the term phablet well two years ago how long has it been since the note came out has it been a year and a half two years yet roughly a year and a half two years ago when the original note came out people didn't know what to call because it was it was a five inch device in most devices weren't that big so they're like let's call it a phablet because it's a phone that's kind of tablet they only really know what to call but that was when it was the only device that was a five inch device now almost there's dozens and dozens of devices flagship devices that are five inch devices such as my DNA you know the Oppo find of five the Appa Appa vs sony xperia you nosy of their in others Huawei has devices uh huawei the Condors even devices bigger like the Huawei has a 6.1 devicessamsung galaxy mega 6.3 mega there's so many devices now there are over five inches that I don't really consider them phablets or just phones it's just it's now almost a standard to be that big so I just say it's a phone you know it's it's a phone Derek regarding your HTC One rant Jason Sandry makes a very good comment DNA was the one beta that's good that's good he's right on right there you know and it because it we appreciate your testing area it's a good good use it's a also result in Terezin HTC's farm league though you know it's not a bad phone I just I don't like it anyways don't get me started second to still talk about it forever alright so let's let's take one more question then let's hit up some awesome app updates so uh Randy wants to know what's the better choice you know the the one google edition or the s4 Google edition internet and that boils down to well what's a better tour screen HTC one at the regular and the s4 regular it choice I mean no golly what what do you for a better I mean it all comes down to build quality what do you like better yeah if we're saying build quality I think we all agree that the one is better build quality and placements if you don't like like the huge like middle button like you know it's hard work it's literally the hardware go out touch the phones put it in your hands figure out what you like better and that will be the determinant because the software will be the same on both phones so what feels better what you think you can you know roll realm with as a daily driver that will be the determinant so go to a store check it out yeah that's a good point stop okay alright so let's know Scott won't tell us about some a few apps that got some updates this week yeah google play music with their all-access they've been rolling out a couple of updates recently uh the biggest one the biggest update in this app version that I have been asking for since day one is it added the option to delete tracks from the app from your library on get them out of there it was very hard to do that so that's a nice feature you can share a song and add it to a playlist from the now playing screen and you can what thank God yeah I know the I don't know why these weren't built in before but you know whatever beta right remove from my library is now supported as well cool stuff I don't know why those features weren't there before but a lot of useful go into those google calendar got an update now you can change your default calendar and event colors which i'm annoyed at seeing the same colors as i have on my desktop so i want to change them more reoccurring event options new time and date picker for event creation it's got that little wheel I it's all you I special looks nice you guys used it I've not doesn't have December in it yeah so good but it's not the app that's built into you know android snow I know until you Cal because they have just better options for singing your calendar events like a a text month I mean that's one thing i'll get that google has an added era calendar is the ability to actually pretext and see what events are coming up in the month instead of the little bar that yeah good point also launching a location like you've a location for a event it'll launch Google Maps I don't think it did that before um searchable timezone picker because we love our timezones right and you got to be the right one yes Scott remember when you didn't know what time zone you were in um now I know and I was educated about a year ago so you know be nested so now that you have this new update on your phone and tablet you should always know it's a time you're in it's going to help me and I will spread the word on what time zone i'm in i'm pretty sure the other people around you know at times i will find some i will find someone that does not know and i will educate them okay uh gmail app update is coming the desktop UI got revamped the if you've seen screech screenshots for it looks beautiful in my opinion looks more user friendly what do you guys think from I mean you haven't been able to use it but like the screenshots they look better I mean I've applied the update on my desktop gmail so I kind of play with it a little bit and I mean it it's nice in its organization I'm not necessarily wild about the tabs it's different yeah it's different and it's a little bit off-putting I feel like it doesn't surface information as well only on over time maybe yeah like the tabs will say on the top if you have new emails in those categories but they don't give you like just a general unread account or how many you have an account and I mean I'll just that there's a lot less ads like the top bar of ads that are always in gmail isn't there but I have noticed it inserting adds sort of in line with emails where like I see my list of emails in the very top one is but it kind of looks like okay moving on um uh they released a app Google admin it's for Google accounts business accounts and Google App accounts yeah Google Apps accounts and it allows basically the management team to you know overseeing add members and edit things and email people and well you can you can manage user accounts basically on the go you don't have to log into the web yeah you can reset a password or add a user account you know simple things like their nose for systems administrators of Google Apps accounts every this admin I applaud the app yes very nifty um I have a question here that it's about it's about the DNA and you know what you guys gonna keep you guys are gonna keep bringing me back to it I so so Kevin wants to know should we would you do Kevin Kevin wants to know should you route to be a name or just wait until they finally release the update the updated in jelly bean version or will you really want the Moto X you know and that boils down to your own personal taste and personal choices you know I rooted mine the second I got it because I like to do that that's a hobby of mine I like to do more I like to tinker if you like to do that too then yeah go ahead um you know there's a near a hundred percent working I seen near hundred percent but there's a there's a near-perfect CM 10.1 which is android 4.2 point2 AOSP based rom available the only thing that really doesn't work right now is the microphones kind of shaky when you're doing like voice to text so if i go to talk to it and say into google voice search it may only pick up a couple of the words and/or thinkers day and how or or i won't even pick anything up or doesn't understand me at all if i put my nexus 7 right beside it and talk it you know and have a conversation with it the nexus 7 picks up everything the DNA does it half the time is junk um that but but they're continually fixing stuff like a NFC just got working bluetooth audio just got working there's no more force closes or crashes whenever you watch youtube video and landscape and turn it to portrait like all these bugs are continually getting fixed and fix anything so so CM 10.1 actually makes me like the phone you know cuz i can play around and do some more stuff with it so I don't hate it as much as I used to but the very moment I can pre-order the motorola x i'm ordering one for my wife and I'm wondering one for myself because I parag right now my wife is using my old Galaxy Nexus okay so I but it but I'm that confident that I will like it that much more because i don't like hardware keys and i'm pretty sure it's going to be software keys and it's going to look exactly like the nexus 4 maybe a little more rectangular lish and i like the nexus 4 so anyways yeah it's all personal preference you do what you want you at you makes you happy android isn't one size fits all you can customize to however you want or not calling it right now the X phone is going to come out with the version Derek's going to buy it pre-order it and then they're going to come out with another version I'm going to call it two and a half three weeks after and Derek will be in the same spot e is now okay all right so uh so we were talking about you know root and CM 10.1 so let's uh continue on with that segment I guess good good timing Kevin thank you for leading us in the Segway cm 10.1 release candidate three is now available for various devices so go ahead and hit up get cm and see if RC 3 is available for your device it's a bigger badder better more stable it's slowly approaching a full stable version but you know the release cancer pretty much completely stable anyways it's just you know fixing probably bug or two that you may not even be aware about but they're there you know they're trying to squash as many bugs as possible so go ahead and check it out uh who doesn't like a completely stable non buggy rom I know I know I can't wait to my blast bug or two is stable in this but that's nothing to a CN that's more of a HTC device you got a squash those bug okay so uh you know we have some other questions here is anybody played with the Oppo find 5 dan John that will move already reviews on it other guys here at Android authority would put a good you know reputation with and what other guys here at enjoy Thornton have used doesn't what I'm saying the heaven woman absolutely okay and then they enjoyed it all right so so we have a question here here arm um what is the what is your opinion of the Oppo find five considering this you know versus the galaxy s4 and HTC one you know it's another high-end device it's another nice device from what some of my colleagues here at Android authority they you know did reviews on the device like the device a lot it's a high quality built device you know it if you want to give it a try I would say you know go ahead now that versus the sgs4 the HTC One um I mean it all boils down to software in your own personal preference for hardware if I had to choose one of those 3 i'd still probably choose the HTC One then probably the fine five and then the galaxy s4 how about you guys I think that's probably my ovaries well yeah I would say the fine five in the Warner almost even there for me and the s4 would be for the last choice really is impressive to me how low quality Samson's bill dance right there trying popularly going on premium versus the one and pretty much everybody everywhere recognizes that the one is vastly higher quality build than ps4 the Oppo find 5 uncle is not a big name manufacturer like HTC or Samsung and yet their build quality is better than Samsung's LG's device build quality is getting to be a better than Samsung's and they used to be joke it's all in the marketing and you know I think it really boils down to it because the HTC One we think if we argue that it's better and it has sold half the amount devices that the s4 has and some insanely calculated due to some type of math number came out a little bit ago that this year they think I don't know this is accurate or not but 80 million s4 devices are gonna be sold that's in it let's say that that's ain't even half that you know that's still insane 35 max so what it boils down to marketing as Scott said you see Samsung heavily flooding the market pushing their product name in their brand you just don't see that with HTC so I don't like HTC has the budget for it right now they're not making a whole bunch of money but Samsung you know there's this vast company and they as we've put it you know throw phones at a velcro wall and see what sticks and that's what they're you know they're going all out of their marketing that's the person who's asked earlier what can the Moto X phone compete and that's where they have to compete it if google wants motorola to be successful and google is the world's largest advertising company that's where they have to hit samsung it they're not going to just throw a great device on the shelf and expect the average consumer to adopt it but the nexus 7 they put together a really good marketing campaign if they do something like that and then elevate it and actually get it on TV then that phone has a chance to actually get back but until you overcome Samsung's marketing budget nobody is going to outperform them just because Samsung spends more money than really they spend more money than apple and HTC that react by a good margin and if that's really the it's from their success right now it's not surprising that Apple and Samsung have the majority of the profits in the mobile space when Apple and symptoms and the majority of money on advertising in the local space hmm they spend far more than asus or HTC or LG or Google or motorola and a wreath or awards all right so we have another question here and I think this is a this is a good question so Sean wants to know what do we think is going to happen to the razor line after the Moto X is released and iiii think that motorola kind of hinted at today or yesterday yeah yesterday that the the motorola x line is the new future of motorola that's going to be their new flagship line the other yeah they're gonna come out razor still out i would say probably not but but they're gonna still support the mm ah you know until they reach n to life the razr HD line is not even a year old yet thou you know come this fall it'll be a year old so I would look for it to be supported you know for 18 months just because that's what usually Nexus devices are supported for and that I could be completely wrong on that but support there is a pretty loose term I would say all updates about that mmm Motorola's dunno one don't count on updates you know basically don't hope for updates with the older devices Motorola's done better than in the last let's say six to eight months they've done better than anybody has of course it's hard to turn around the road a reputation like that but the bonnie is on jellybean at least the charge and Thunderbolt are but that's a good point yeah you know this day they kind of went back and fixed a lot of pasture static look amazing at headlines could whatever well I mean it came out after but it didn't come out that long about eight oncea it was the big see that higher version of Android later alright so we've another question here and this is something that you know we it's based appear in speculation then do you think Samsung's of phones will get better build qualities and stay away from plastic no I yeah I mean that that's kind of their thing you know they're there they build plastic films well let's not be mean to plastic here because I work in the plastics industry and that's not take the battery cover off of your Samsung whatever phone turn it around and feel the inside of the plastic that textured field that doesn't have that crappy oily hyper blaze coating but okay like Kevlar as an epoxy resin which is a polymer which is it's plastic yeah what bonds composites together so it's not the plastic can't be made to feel good it's just that Samsung Business Bureau yes plastic you could possibly put on there because all of the best luggage is made out of polycarbonate it's just can they implement it and I can tell you right now that there are manufacturing processes where you can make plastic fuel just like metal you can make it feel like in looking for composite you want to and their additives to get whatever you want it's just how they implement the plastic so they could stay with plastic and just not suck at it and they still have a good feeling phone so I think they're going to slightly answer this with the s4 active that is going to be a tougher built s4 um all phones that have been made to be tougher have never done well well that's because the hardware always sucked on it that is a very good point but there has never been a phone that has been a tougher phone or it used for on-the-go people or at work people yeah it has succeeded what about that traveling with my brother-in-law i used to have casio it was it called don't don't like commando or something i think that's a that things are brick ya know there are great quality phones and they you know withstand a lot but they don't sell that much yeah that's true so maybe the s4 active will change X it's a it's a well-known name from manufacturer it sells tons of phones you know maybe maybe who knows I talking more that's good all right so uh I think I think it's about that time so if you have any questions for us go ahead and hit us up at various corners of the Internet Scott and where are those corners at first corner uh I guess we're going to do a circle here um you were such a fit of quarters okay uh correct glad we're getting this over with you know this could go on youtube youtube channel for app reviews barber reviews all those things what Derek's make in a circle with his hands for all those listening on soundcloud which we are on soundcloud if you don't want to use the video feed and just want to subscribe 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