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welcome to android authority on air the original android hangout show on google+ I'm Derek Ross I'm Scott Anderson bad Charlton and I'm Johnathan Franklin this week we're going to talk about how Apple launched a new Android experience platform and we're all switching to it i kid i kid i were to talk about some google acquisitions our cruzerlite contest results scott's gonna hit up his favorite thing some android app updates and John's gonna talk about some devices we're going to talk about some industry news and routing and ramen and then we're going to wrap up the show by actually really talking about iOS 7 and what we think about it as Android user since we know that our bread and butter are staple up google+ pretty much hated on iOS 7 the the last couple days so we're gonna you know we we truly think about it all right so let's uh let's get started first I want to start out by saying a little public service announcement if you signed up for google play music all axis on the day it was officially launched which was the first day of google i/o may 15 if you signed up that first day you're free 30-day trial is going to expire tomorrow and you're going to start getting billed so you need to make a decision tonight if you want to keep the service or if you want to get rid of it if you waited a day or two before you start of the trial and you have another day an easy way to determine when your all access trial ends if you want to cancel it is to open up the app go into settings and on it and write in settings it'll tell you when your billing period begins or visit the app on the Play Store it will list subscription and when the billing period begins ahh real quick prices on that if you don't remember it's 799 until june thirtieth and then after that it goes up to the full price of 999 so you have 15 days really to decide if you want to save two bucks a month I I'm gonna do it I've never purchased a music subscription before and I've never you know bought Spotify never bought pandora any of the others but i like google music and I've always liked it and I've I've actually found a lot of music through it you know the past month so I'm gonna buy it I'm gonna you know it's only eight bucks a month i think that's not gonna break my bank and I like the service so i'm gonna do it how about you Dan what do you have you been using it I used it for a little while and I like it I've never I've never really tried any of the other big music streaming services I guess I don't think about frame of reference for it um ultimately though I just don't listen to another music just i would spend the page or five dollars we did that on ok John how about you what are you gonna do with all access they can use me you're gonna buy it i have been using it i was a spotify subscriber i do like the fact that this kind of merges together the music in my own collection with streaming so to me that that in itself makes it more convenient so i'm probably going to continue the subscription and the predictive aspect of it really makes it better to all right and and scott i sit down i see your bed is not me we're talking about that first i went to the place that I've learned how to do it and now I just need to implement it um you forgot already yeah alright so so what bektas yes music are you going to have you been using it you're gonna buy it I haven't been using it and kind of the same sense of as Dan I don't I can't really justify that amount of money going to something that I don't use a lot like Netflix if google had send up a video subscription thing I would justify it because hey I watch a lot of TV and movies and all that type of video content but audio is more of an on-the-go thing like and I'm on the go as much as I used to be so yeah okay videos scription so bad though out of the four of us you know fifty percent are gonna stick with it I use it every day going to work and coming home to work so I I'm gonna yeah that's worth it to me i got an hour drive each way I know that it's like a new service but I wonder if anybody's watching this are you guys going to subscribe to it and are you going to get it before june for you um yeah let us know in the comments what you think about all access if you're gonna buy it in the next few days then be interested in to see if you know if it's 5050 kind of like the android authority on air team all right so uh continuing along with ecosystem news google bought popular crowd sourcing gps navigation app company ways for 1.3 billion dollars and now Scott you said you actually have used ways before if you want to talk a little bit about that it's pretty much like a crowdsourcing navigation system it's if you were to see an accident on someplace and your own really really slow you would report that or let's say there's a blocked Road that has you know that doesn't have access on one side of the road you can report that and it'll you know different you around there whereas with Google Maps it doesn't really have that because it's not to the second updated it is updated with like places and details and stuff like that but like with regards to directions ways really excels in that so the social traffic you know reporting aspect of it you think that we might you know you think that would be beneficial to see that in google maps in the future i think it'll be some type that they'll have to integrate some type of thing like that with regards to navigation um I don't know how they would do it though because it is I've you use the app and it's somewhat bloated in the sense of reporting there's just a lot of stuff going on with that app I mean you can do a lot of with it but you know with more things it comes it gets really hard to put it on a such a small device and scream that it's really difficult so they might do some things um what do you guys think I think mm-hmm for navigation glass to me is a better platform to do that with because glass gives you all those tools to actually report to something like Waze instantaneously like you can say ho glad ok glass take a picture it's already location in context aware so you can say you take a picture and upload this to you know the social aspect of it and then it's a done deal you know you don't have to pull your phone out and go through all these context menus if you just notify a glass real quick I think that's a better navigational experience than on phone by default so if you see a traffic accident you would use you know ways on glass to take a picture of the accident and upload it you're saying yeah just be lightning fast you know it wouldn't be an inconvenience to let people know what's going on one thing I think I think there are days like it Danny isn't wave like a contextual app like doesn't it learn your route for or something like that ya can ok I think Google's out to the data more than the app I mean this guy you comin up a big bloated but I don't think they're looking to replace max ways I think they're looking to suck in all the ways data and the you know the easy ways that users can submit that data and just bolster mats yeah I mean it's got about a user base of about 50 million and that user base you know Google would like that yeah okay all right well so if you use ways I know some of you've already commenting saying that you do use ways and you you you like it so uh let us know you know if you use ways if you're excited about this acquisition if you're excited to see some type of Google fication of ways or integration the current apps all right so let's uh let's talk about a contest all right so we android authority had a cruzerlite contest giveaway this past week up for grabs were 20 different ten dollar gift codes where you can go to cruzerlite calm and use the ten dollars off on a purchase of your favorite phone case for your favorite android phone they have cases for all the popular phones even the galaxy s4 they got some new exoskeleton you know hardened cases 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updates Scott Anderson's favorite part of the show so we got some new stuff from the Google+ app update first of all when you launch the app it now with the last update it when you launch the app the stream wouldn't refresh which was annoying you'd have to click the refresh button it's a tap here very fresh well now it refreshes right away when you launch the app that's guys you can also delete photos from photos view which again is nice performance improvements also global notifications so if you see a notification on desktop then it will get taken away from the mobile so that's good google music got updated you can keep music on your device a lot quicker you can have there's a low medium and high bandwidth setting for mobile bandwidth usage search quality improvements and overall reduced data which is always nice with those low detik caps also google released google cloud print this was a nice feature there were some third-party apps that would hook into the printing service before and now google has released their own official one can meet works very simplistic you know very easy to use but who prints things these days you guys print things horribly ever okay yeah you know Scott I was trying to think when i installed that app is like wow this is so cool I've wanted I've won this for so long and I remembered wait a second i used to use the third party version of this a year ago why haven't i used in the year ah that's right i don't print anymore but you know if I'm ever out and about and I need to print something on my home that's waiting for me when I get home or something I can uh it's an added bonus feature I don't know how often i'll use it you know at work I print more than I do home but still not that often it is worth noting that Google just struck a deal with HP along with bringing google apps to allow you in a lot of different places as far as enterprise goes so this is a really timely kind of update for that to take place yeah and then press got updated John no you use press yeah the they did have a couple of UI enhancements including uh dropdowns to get to your feet a little bit faster where it used to take you to a different view but the biggest thing worth noting is that they're adding support for feed Wrangler and feed bin both of those are actually subscription models but the app also knows that they're going to be adding support for fever and feedly in the near future and feedly is actually going to be a free model that's similar to Google Reader is it back end that's the main thing that's worth noting is even if you don't use press we're about two weeks away from the google reader shutdown so all of your favorite RSS readers are very likely to get an update very soon and on your end as a user you need to make sure you decide which one that you want to use and get yourself ready to migrate away from google reader in the process you know get your feeds migrated over to feedly or wherever you want to use and go ahead and make sure that's ready because they're ready to swap over to this now cocoa and we did have some device news kind of small device news is the the galaxy s4 zoom it is official and it is a phone and camera hybrid because we all love hybrids on this one kind of rounds out the whole galaxy s4 lineup which we have the s4 there's four mini the s4 active now we have the s4 zoom and you also have the s4 Google Experience edition but this one's going to come with a 4.3 inch qhd display a 1.5 years dual-core processor one and a half gigabytes of ram 8 gigabytes of onboard memory with an x SD card slot 16 megapixel camera with 10 times optical zoom and optical image stabilization so the camera on it actually should be very nice and of course you've got all the usual connectivity in the phone which is LTE Wi-Fi Bluetooth or in NFC and oddly they have an event scheduled for June twentieth in London to announce we'd really don't know what they're going to announce because ever since they've scheduled that event they've already officially announced three phones and two tablets so rumors are pointing toward they're also being a galaxy camera two successor which is kind of the non phone version of this I would think and that kind of rounds out your devices so it'd be interesting to know what the users think on this one kind of all of the s4 not just the s4 anymore you know the galaxy s lineup is branching out to the you know in addition to the house for but to Mitch devices that kind of cater to a very specific usage scenario you know I'm kind of worried that Samsung's running the risk with so many devices that they're spraying the resources so thin on the software side because you know it's tended to be in the past where if you didn't get a flagship Samsung device you're just not getting software support and I think that's the direction like ship Samsung device you're not being very good software support that's true but you know the s4 and the flagship models are really the only ones that really get decent softwares and everything yes whatever number and everything else is just kind of forgotten about I think that's the area that they need to improve on is making sure that there are a lot of countries where people just can't afford to have a flagship device but they deserve to have a really premium song of software experience on the phone I think that's where the market needs to head because nobody has really done that on the low end I think there's money to be made like that nanos got kilometer my son everyone we talked about this a little bit last week but it's because the manufacturers aren't really held accountable for the quality of the devices carrying it so until the Samsung and HTC and LG motorola are the people who get the phone call when somebody's upset with the device instead of verizon and sprint or t-mobile and AT&T what do they care yeah just want to you know sell as many and not necessarily i think that the low end needs to have what samsung did with the high end is have a consolidated you know brand recognition where people even if they're talking about a good solid for the money device they know to get a samsung you know whatever they decide to call it because that's you know if you can dominate the low end and get brand recognition on that just like you do with the high end then they could really open themselves up to a continual you know brand loyalty yeah getting into some industry news t-mobile and AT&T are expanding their LTE role house with a bunch more cities for both carriers meanwhile in the ongoing drama over who's going to buy sprint and Clearwire clear where board is now recommending that the except DISH Network's offer for about forty nine and a half percent of the company a dish is offering market value and syringes offering button valor 10 per share below market value which is about a quarter of the value of the company full market uh so cleaners board is recommending to the shareholders that they vote for the dish network deal um to clear dish isn't trying to buy out there are with us they're trying to buy half of clearwater sprint still owns the other half one way or the other uh meanwhile softbank is pumping their offer for sprint up to twenty one point six billion dollars we're still just under five billion dollars less than DISH Network's offered by script so if dish can scoop up clearwire that definitely makes them a much smarter fit for sprint meanwhile if Softbank can't get their hands on sprint they apparently her looking at potentially mobile ions which would definitely make deutsche telekom packing because they've been trying to get rid of a company forever but you know otherwise a lot interesting back and forth between softbank and Dish Network fighting over sprint right now so it'll be interesting to see who comes out on top of that hopefully of spring can put their crap back in winter ones that end so Scott how are things going in V fruta dry then I don't know if Scott's prepared to talk about routing and ramen not this week anyways alright so I'll cover root and rom and all Scott you make your bed next week mine maybe you promise to make your bed I'll cover it and ramen for you alright so so cyanogen aka Steve Kondik took to Google+ this week to demonstrate something that he hopes to get merged into mainline cyanogenmod and and that is incognito mode for acts it basically does exactly what it sounds it allows for you to take you no privacy into your own hands it gives you a mode where you can choose to deny applications act access to your personal data you know such as your messages your contacts your your call logs so hopefully this gets implemented in the future and it's a you can't pick and choose you want it turned on for this app but not that app and this happened not that I'm it's a one size fits all you either enable incognito for everything or you don't so I think this is very cool um it'll be interesting you know how many people will start to use it since so many apps out there you know request this this type of data you know for you know so many freemium apps request list so they can you know sell your data um I would use it and I would turn on a heartbeat and if it does get merged in the mainline cm um liquid great tons of applications unless it's feeding them incorrect unless it's you know feeding them bad data i I'm not sure on the implementation of it well even still something like say a contact replacement well obviously if you're using a contact replacement app you probably can't use incognito mode right but I mean this is a huge swath of regular use cases that are just broken buttons I don't really see this as something that's beneficial we can remember that cyanogenmod is only eight miles out of a billion users there's only five million people using science in water or so even still they've looked at some rather radical things before and backed off when Google or other powers to pee more or less said that's a bad idea don't do it I definitely think this was a bad idea don't do it I get that everybody's all about privacy and blah blah blah but come on and that's an interesting thought you know I do nothing to say to your Indian but but i would i'd like to be in control of of my data you know i think that i'm curious to see if it pans out if it does make it in the mainline cm i think the obvious answer to this problem is actually something you could cherry pick from blackberry where blackberry actually did allow you to have individual control of permission for their apps and a lot of that was because they did it for enterprise reasons but they you know if Google did this as a you know but then you run into the issues of developers being able to monetize because users could actually you know cut off a channel for monetization from them so that's a real sticky issue yeah all right so in other in ramen news not so much root in ramen but developer news um sony opened up their Smart Watch program and basically said to developers have at it they posted the open-source binaries and code examples up on their website and they're basically telling developers to go ahead and flash alternative firmware which is root and ramen but not the same written arrahman it that we would you know considering android and ramen you can see the details for more information at sony developer world if you're you're interested in and you know this is it this is very cool for wearable tech because right now you know not a whole lot of wearable tech is open-source up you know so this is great for developers to basically push wearable technology or the Sony's SmartWatch now too to the next level and you know pebble doesn't you know pebbles not open source but a pebble is also very popular so this is Sony basically saying hey wait a second we're not the only smart watch out there and we're open source now and in other route and ramen news one of my favorite Android ROM so paranoid android open source they're increasingly popular halo concept and if you're not familiar halo is think of it as facebook chat heads for everything and not just chat it is for every app that there is it works with every app it's a way to view your notifications what and open the app that produced the notification in a separate window on top of what you're already viewing so let's say I'm listening to music or scrolling through my playlist on google play music all access dan sends me an email I go gmail notification normally I may be a you know normally I would have to stop looking at the playlist to read and respond to Dan's email now I can basically have that still stay there and a window pop up and reply to Dan's email if I want all without having to leave play access though there's tons of in I don't know if that was a greatest example cuz it's good but uh it's a very neat feature ID it's probably coming to a custom rom near you even if it isn't paranoid android a lot of random roms are implementing it right now so go ahead and check that out and let us know what you think i think it's a pretty revolutionary concept into notifications and multi window support because it is multi window and it's not samsung's implementation of multi window um but not at all and it's substantially better because your multi window is on samsung as clumsy really calm and speaking of revolutionary concepts we had a few people comment at the beginning of the show saying oh we missed the Apple iOS segment of the show you did not we're gonna we're going to talk about why Dan John Scott and myself are going to be switching to iOS 7 and leave an Android I can't finish that sentence um yeah so so John let's talk about since you know so you know since you're Johnny Frank lets you know you're kind of similarly named to jony ive's that's lenze yes now let's have the the meeting of the John's let us know what what's coming with iOS 7 and why do we wanted and why we don't want it why do we love it why don't we hate it why do we love and hate it I want to enter a screen share here to kind of just give a visual representation all right so so those of you that are listening on soundcloud or put another podcast later John's gonna show us some screenshots so I don't want to try to describe what you're looking at yeah really kind of rapid fire just so that podcast listeners aren't left out completely but you know we'll just kind of cover it real quick um alright so here we go the first thing you're going to see is the iOS 7 obviously the lock screen is completely different it gives rid of the kind of semi-transparent gradients and everything it's got a flat bar with text and time John John I'll interrupt you here on I think you actually put up a Ice Cream Sandwich lock screen there you're showing the wrong one buddy I'm sorry I have to apologize there's a definite similarities out I don't think that putting a bubble style live wallpaper helped them you know as far as the hearing ice cream sandwich Facebook that's pretty odds they were showing out the live wallpaper that they ensure introduced they call it parallax but it's a gyroscope it's a live wallpaper that pulls off the gyroscope sensor and actually moves with the phone it actually looks like almost like something Samsung would do just kind of out of gimmicky am I correct in assuming that you no longer swipe from left to right to open the device you still swap swipe from left to right it's that's actually the interesting part and to anyone on this poem arrow at the bottom it's anywhere on the screen oh yeah because that was a big patent wasn't this the interesting thing is that it looks like looks like you would swipe up bizet actually to take you to control center so it's still actually left to right I'm get it does still it has read it says slide to unlock and has an up arrow and I slide from left to right this is intuitive from Apple I guess so now the camera oddly i'm not exactly sure how you unlock straight to the camera i would get you a dragon but i'm not exactly sure it's the barrier i guess you would drag that up and do the slide to unlock is still left to right that the arrow on the bottom is actually to open up their new control center directly from the lock screen so you know something else that make that reminds me of android is nothing not because the you know the bubble circle we know background not because the minimal you know look of the the top and you know the bottom you know the unlocking but the the time centered in the middle with the thin I mean it's not Roberta rabota but it's pretty damn little close to looking like Roberto hey hey it looks like a very thin kind of derivative of helvetica it is yeah but but I mean a thin time in the middle with the date underneath it I mean ad yeah I'm sorry that this looks like what we've been using for the past two years you know the so I'm gonna pop over there no dash cos cos I want to pop over to the home screen so the icons the home screen itself has been kind of drastically changed and yes designers help people are in a in a constant debate over whether they like the icons been whether they the colors the shapes or its its minimal in shape like the weather and also the daughter of them are very simplistic in the in the color palette is kind of all over the place but now now dan dan I'm sorry now John correct me if I'm wrong here I heard that what that what they did to design these icons that Jony Ive's actually looked at matias duarte 'he's shirt collection and decided to use the colors on his shirts to color the icons on the iOS home screen is that true or false um well I'm message or to be fair Matthias is a shirt collection pretty much covers every color of the spectrum it's hard to get away from that but um you know the curious part and just as an example of what you're looking at if you look at the weather icon and the App Store icon as an example the gradients are actually in different directions like one of them the shiny gradient comes from the bottom to top and then the app store when it comes from top to bottom and you see that a couple everyone the mail icon comes from bottom to talk to and the you know a couple other ones it kind of makes you curious because the you know with iOS 6 and below they always had that top gradient that was very consistent in iconography on all there you know and that's kind of curious it makes you wonder if they were really designed at the same place or if it was kind of a design by committee thing looks like on idea builders and it's good about this is like a fourth great project yeah so I'm wondering does jony ive's have any children and did he go up to his son or daughter and say hey go get your for us on colors we got work to do it's it's it's really it this is probably the biggest point of debate over a lot of the um not not just the fans of it but a lot of the analysts and blogs and they're taking to it is that the icons maybe a step back not necessarily the concept behind going flat with the icons but how they implement it all if they're come up yeah a lot of them just look like they changed it for the sake of change and not really designed it it's like hey listen we haven't changed in five years six years i'm sorry in six years let's go ahead and just change everything with the icon colors because we can yeah and lick there's there's no sort of theme to it safari and calendar and photos and new skin and a couple others are white backgrounds with random crap on top of them and then everything else is a colored background with a couple of more colored with just white oh okay what I want what I want to talk about is okay there's a lot of users that have been using it okay so a lot of users on iOS a lot of people are are used to what they're using so will this be successful and will this be something that will push Apple you know into a higher percentage and fight back it's also worth noting that this is you know essentially beta software you know they have time to listen to feedback and change some of the things about it yeah they did that really nice with Apple maps right yeah yeah I mean it's a point of debate whether they actually will but if enough people you know complaining about it how do you think they're still I do think a lot of these things are moving in the right direction and even and to be honest with Android when they redesign and kind of came up with the holo theme you know ice cream sandwiches the first one that the majority of people saw but really honeycomb was the first one that really introduced that design language and honeycomb was a little bit overdone and too much of that kind of tron flat boxy look so if I if Apple is smart enough to really evolve they can you know there's still refinement to be done yeah big thing is who were a design company everything we touch is pretty and lovely and awesome and this is just ugly it's it is interesting and I'm curious you know it's really hard to tell so far and I'm gonna pop to the next slide this is the the new camera by the way but it's going to be interesting about it is is really when it gets in the hands of average users because the right now you're talking about really tech you know kind of guys you know this this isn't the casual average fan that's analyzing this you know you're gonna have to see how the use of your at I don't have a problem with the camera software I Emperor's actually pretty unpretty improved you can swipe over to go directly to say s square image or video photo it's actually been simplified a lot it just gets rid of the really big gradients and everything so I don't think there's a lot to mention because the camera hasn't really changed much in functionality um now just demonstrating this real quick you can implement filters uh TouchWiz does this it actually has filters built into the camera too well so does I mean total stock Android they you know that the film came out with the ice cream sandwich we've had sweet every year the difference was stock Android stock Android actually does it in the gallery and this is done on the camera so it's not alive yeah that's how Samsung does it to to me I prefer to be in the gallery because to me I use a camera as a point-and-shoot you know I want to premeditate if I wanted to premeditate taking a picture I would get a real camera personally I just don't mean just because they take better pictures it's not so much that I don't necessarily value having image filters I just think that a phone camera primary functionality is that you need a camera right then at that very moment to take a picture very quickly it's not so much that you know if I wanted to think it out then I would just think it out and use a better camera because phone cameras still aren't on you know they're better but they're not the you know like an HD yeah like a really high quality yeah yeah nah hey there he took 650 pictures with that camera apparently but this is a part of their camera roll and another thing that's worth kind of thinking about you can see at the very top that they're kind of using the back up carrot that doesn't have that really embedded looking raised button look and it's using a lot more typography lately more about how you navigate through android apps well then this is interesting because when it you're talking about applications are developers that kind of focus on cross-platform if you look the camera roll is actually when you hit back the text is telling you where it's going to go to if you go back we're on Android on the action bar the text actually tells you where you are so it's going to be interesting how many developers kind of screw this up for each pilot let's go back to the camera roll not you're in the area that's not where you are regular that's where it's going to take you so you're probably going to have developers to get confused as to which yeah and that's kind of sad because I mean we all know that interest in a lot of applications get ported to android from i lo so those you hit back right there because the back is telling you that back is camera growth yeah the back is tell and I don't really think either one of them is necessarily wrong I just hate the fact that you have the potential for it to be different than what the user interfaces convention is going to be if you're talking about a developer that's developing for different platform and the other ? is a done button done well the death that's actually the point of editing and image right there that that's what this screenshots of and without letter thing to start editing it the other thing that kind of makes me curious about this done editing yeah when you're done editing I guess so both camera roll and doesn't take you back to the camera now I've done well yeah I guess done technically would take you back to it but yes it would be done editing so what would you do once you hit it no in the case of in the case of iOS and in the case of iOS you have to provide a back because there is no back on them no that's right because mr. but don't make a struggle it makes sense that they did it it's just then the other thing that kind of makes me curious is you know you got three different types of typography on the top right there yeah and you know you really don't have a clear touch delegate the thing about that is not so much that it's typography is that what is it going to look like when translations come to play in languages that have where a word is going to be substantially longer than that is it going to be a scrolling marquee of text or is it going to be you know to miss ooh I mean this is a legitimate concern I think dad about is probably going to resort to having to use iconography instead of text in situations where they can't fit everything on the top bar yeah I mean even on this one it already looks bad with camera roll but yeah it's kind of cluttered you know it's kind of cluttered like that and it's really not big text you know it's not a long description or anything it just makes you kind of wonder when you translate it into Norwegian you know what's what's it going to look like so um airdrop is another one that they announced and what airdrop does is very similar to group group cast on samsung where it uses Wi-Fi and bluetooth to be able to share directly with iOS or you know or mac users so what you're going to do is it's going to use kind of like a it doesn't require you to be connected to a Wi-Fi network I don't think it actually can use the network but it is very similar to Wi-Fi direct where you're going to be able to send people images in multiple people images so it's Wi-Fi direct until it's a little something else that we've had it's apples totally proprietary and unnecessary implementation of Wi-Fi direct it essentially is it's functionally the same as Wi-Fi direct and this is their jab they were taking an NFC where you don't have to touch phones together but the thing about it is that group cast does the exact same thing but the other part of it is NFC isn't just used to share photos or applications is the thing about it if see you know when we went to the big Android BBQ they used it you know as an identification method where people would touch a paper slip there was NFC enabled and actually get your information directly from that you have the potential for mobile payments you have the potential for even if you wanted to say put a NFC tag on the outside of a restaurant so people it would automatically let people check in on foursquare or something like that you know NFC has a lot more direct capabilities because it doesn't require you to initiate a connection um the music application has been you know pretty much redesigned and another thing as they announced iTunes radio iTunes radio is very similar to pandora how it is basically a DJ that comes up with playlists based upon you know your music interest and you can kind of see where they're going with the user interface inside applications and I do think it's a big step forward for them over the scheme orphic kind of look at the fake leather paper and you know all those backgrounds it's very typographic it's very thin it's very you know kind of light um but also the other thing worth noting is in the majority of their applications the backgrounds are pure white in nearly everything it almost reminds you of the the first ipod you know in user interface you can see the bottom where they have the five options on the bottom kind of action bar that they have that has remained functionally almost exactly the same as the last one so the user should get thrown off too much by it it's just a lot more you know typographic without having the raised button look I do think that's a better look for them than it was and so we'll just keep moving on this this is what they call control center and control center is essentially very very similar to how notification toggles are done in android in this case what you're doing is swiping up from the bottom it does you know kind of include a set amount of toggles it doesn't really let you customize them no way the sky nice things yeah so what you see is what you get on there I do think it's good that they have those options on there it would be nice if you could customize them and it's also kind of odd that it sloped you know you have the brightness and the music slot music volume sliders and completely different places and it would be no kind of interesting that you've got toggles and airdrop an airplane and things is like it's it looks very similar to touch whizzes a notification area where it's all kind of jumbled up and weird plate you know touch whistles however TouchWiz looks disgusting that actually this is actually attractive yeah that looks good hey you know TouchWiz is is what I'm trying to say with TouchWiz is TouchWiz does it in a really cluttered kind of ugly and disjointed kind of weight and it kind of reminds me of that where it's you like the fact that it's functional but it's not attractive like it could be done better like it could be organized better its nest yeah it's it's cluttered as it doesn't really flow you know I'm gonna disagree I love the way that that looks I think it's I think it's very you know minimal looking i love the icons i like i like it i do very much like the look of it I think the organization just needs to be a little bit better yeah I mean it's but you know we've had you know custom toggles on custom rom since froyo you know thanks to signage in mod and another prop that i'll give them on this is a you know with 4.2 the way Google did it and of course custom roms change it but you know when you hit Wi-Fi on Google's method it just takes you to the Wi-Fi settings where this is a direct toggle no not well in 4.2 they changed that job yeah you mean the way that Google initially implemented it took you and that and that was kind of for point-to-point telling me yeah and the way that they did that was google shouldn't done it like that initially so i'll give them props for getting that right you know their Wi-Fi you know there's only Wi-Fi us will take you setting hit the toggle on bluetooth and Wi-Fi though jobs for learning from the mistakes that google made over a year ago way to go um you didn't make same mistakes some other company did last one though these next screen shots I'm gonna just kind of rapidly go through just to get an idea of the user interface because the conventions very much the same as current iOS it looks a lot different it's more typography you know the fonts bigger is thinner and it's all that it is a lot cleaner if you see like a start and lap you know it's very minimal I really like it actually it's very minimal it reminds you of Windows Phone hollow in the way that they go with very thin fonts and you know it's just not it's not trying to be something it's not you know what the top half of that tough habitat reminds me of Android it reminds me of the the new stopwatch clock alarm you know in Angeles cottages in to be fair I think windows really kind of got these this kind of look first you know the really type of graphic you know focus and you know windows kind of went a little bit too far on the flat UI it mean with the tiles and it's kind of a mom it's really mono you know when you customize it with blue tiles you know your whole phone experience just becomes blue everywhere we're mixing and matching the colors and the fonts and everything has been something that actually Android and iOS you know by the look of it have kind of improved on it it's flat and it's minimal but it's not like nauseatingly minimal wear it doesn't have any depth to it yeah that's the well windows that's the part with Windows Phone that I think they need to improve on is that the OS is simple and it's flat but it's it doesn't have any depth to it whatsoever yeah you know I think that that's a perfect representation right there of how very flat it is the dialer is very flat looking I don't like the dialer I don't have your departure hangar the part that confuses me with the dialer is why they went with transparency on the Rings because if you have somebody with a really light colored wallpaper it's going to kind of and that also kind of goes back to a lot of the other things that they did with a lot of transparency with it but with transparency is one of those is that you have to be very careful with unless you're implementing drop shadows kind of like on I context on the launcher yep sometimes you have to be really careful with you know unless you're doing something with drop shadows the messaging app to me compared to their last messing the app is a huge improvement Oh accident that's a major improvement I like that a lot i'm a big fan of the the new messaging app compared to the audience if you look at like auto correct do you see the bubbles it's just nausea ting for so long i would really think their messaging app is beautiful compared to what it was oh yeah it's a huge improvement and you know the message dialog boxes you don't see the big embedded I like that keyboard John yeah it's got a thin fun it has a really kind of light feel to it without being um the other the other thing I'd like to see them do on the keyboard is similar to other ones where it doesn't differentiate with lowercase and uppercase letter Android how you can push gold the top row to get numbers yeah you know I think the keyboard could I really would have liked to see them open up to third-party keyboard so the calendar have to me was probably the best improvement of an application that they showed because if you look at this calendar have with the week view and everything that's one area that I wish google would focus on a little bit more as their calendar yeah I actually think the calendar on this is very attractive and it's all agree i like the calendar minimal and the month views and everything just kind of get it right i do think that they did a very good job with the calendar application and in most of these applications though um that you know the applications themselves actually look like a big improvement I do like what they're doing with the minimal look this is your notification center and it splits into tabs you have today and all and miss notifications and it's very when you're looking at compared to Android's notification area it's very kind of rich in it it's rich but it's also kind of like if you have a ton of notifications you're not going to be able to get to them very quickly but it does show a lot of content in the notification area so it's going to be interested if ur inappro CH but it's you know whether it's to the users preference is going to have to kind of you have to see what the feedback is okay let's uh so just yeah just quick overview that's really the big changes aside from if you can see here safari is getting kind of a tab layout and they've also there's a there's a lot of changes uh happening with with iOS you know the rumors were true it you know the icons are all different it's a much flatter more minimal design me being a fan of minimal themes for Android stock Android I don't like sense i don't like TouchWiz I don't like I don't like anything is in stock Android or you know AOSP based I I like minimal Android so I'm a fan of the new iOS 7 except for the home screen icons I mean and does everything else I like I don't see anything wrong with anything else mean there's maybe a tiny little thing here there but Android has a tiny little thing here there that isn't perfect either so if we could take away the icons I love it and I I wouldn't I mean I don't like the platform I'm not gonna drop an Android don't get me wrong but I love the the new design I think it's great they've a new design it's not six years old anymore they needed to do this I'm happy no I think you're absolutely right apart from the really kind of random iconography everything else about it is clean it's uniform hits unified it's straightforward and it's very apple and it looks nice it really does like you said I'm not about to brush off you get Apple I don't really care for the platform Apple didn't really announce anything interesting special existing insofar as developer option or new features for servant well I guess iTunes radio service but really iTunes radio and polish on the UI's all they have to offer for innovation you know but hey the the new Mac Pro that was their big claim to fame as innovation but we're not talking about pcs the show so so John after you know you have an extensive review you obviously taking a lot of time to look through iOS 7 what are your what's your quick and dirty final thoughts on it final thoughts I think that it looks a lot better it does look a lot better than the scamorza and I and to be fair I hate to get more fit you eyes you know even with my desktop with Linux I've always gone for the minimal look but um you know what ? that I have with iOS isn't so much you know what did they do what are they going to do because apples always been this is what you've got deal with it you know and the question is how the average user is going to respond i think the enthusiasts really gonna like it because it does look cleaner it doesn't look fresher I think the ones that bought it for familiarity and building off of their previous experience lioness is probably going to see this and boot it up and get I absolutely frightened by it because and that's not just because of the way the you is that's because people are so scared when they see change and because it's a change I think people are going to you know you're always going to have people that even when Google update something yet people they're half and half and the last point is a question mark of is Samsung going to be looking at this questioning and trying to do something with TouchWiz because we all know that they've tended to use some influence I think that one benefit of iOS being so white like so many white backgrounds the Samsung would be committing suicide to themselves if they implemented it because they're LED displays you know you substantially more power producing the color white than any other one so I don't even think Samsung is going to have much as they can take from this because they would completely kill their user experience so I duh before we get to Scotts thoughts i hope that Samsung does something because their UI is just old and outdated as iOS 6 and below so I think hope this is motivation for them I just hope they don't cottman car you know I hope that you know if Samsung feels that you know Apple felt the need to step up because of google you know Samsung doesn't need to necessarily feel the need to step up because of Apple Samsung needs to cut the middleman out it'd be more like Google and just be done with it is my personal opinion on it Scott are you switching the iOS no but with regards to third party the device manufacturers or whatever leave it stock let the user decide what they want they're fun to look like in the end pretty much I like the new look I think it's going to piss a lot of people off because everybody's been very used to something and that's that it hasn't changed for so many years this is a very big change especially the transparency that will make people angry um but yeah not changing all right well I see we have we have a lot of comics basically showing me I'm not going to repeat what they say because uh there's some choice words it that well I just guess I'm not gonna repeat them but it obviously shows that there's that there's you know fanboys air quotes for you guys listening uh that exists on both sides of the spectrum either you know you love you love you the platform you use every day and you hate the competitor or you don't care and it's a mobile platform and use you use what you like so I think that's what boils down to if you like Android you're going to use Android if you like iOS you're gonna use ILS it all boils down to your own personal preference and you know some platforms allow you more personal preferences than others so there isn't any other questions I see you know basically i'm looking to the comment list here and all a whole bunch of comments on iOS and Android in general no major pressing questions uh actually you know what just just a thought here so I phones generally have pretty good battery life well Christian Klaus wants to know is Apple's iPhone 5 LCD emily d or LCD because all that white is such a battery hog and that is true white is a battery hog but that depends on your screen LCD there's no difference whatsoever producing colors because LCD is backlit one hundred percent of the time yeah I think that's why he was asking he wanted to know if it was LCD rambling and emmalin redoute of what i don't know at all the thing is the iphone is neither of these it's IPS so kind of an elephant debate IPS is powered slightly differently it's still that good but realistically projecting the whiteness is not be more battery consuming animal coloring as dispensing yeah and I've in it an AMOLED displays use roughly three times as much power producing why than it does any other color because it requires every every single sub-pixel has to fire full force basically where you know so essentially it with oled you would want to have a dark thing you know period it preferably okay so Scott uh where do people find is when they're not watching us on on the youtubes or the Google+ YouTube obviously like you just said alright you can listen to us on soundcloud podbean itunes soundcloud it's kind of where it's at i do like the removal appt right now also andhra 30.com check us out there we do a post after every show and i'm going to start something doing something new i did a test of it on last episode I'm going to segment the show on YouTube and give you segment two things about when we talk about things because I know that it's a long show and you want you want to listen to one thing then go ahead up and I'll be segmenting the show so so start any chance we can get that awesome segmentation on soundcloud who I don't know I'll look into it okay all right so more android authority on air features coming at you thanks to the man the myth the non bed maker Scott Anderson all right Oh have a good night everybody great weekend long live Android I mean iOS 7 or whatever you choose good night