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LG does tend to use high places in order to show off their new devices but this one was no different as the LG g4 launch event was held at the top of one World Trade Center and you can see New York behind me in all of his glory hey it's Josh with our firm and round Authority what's goin on everybody and here is your LG g4 launch event rundown swaying swaying Dom hard at work this is where we're podcasting for God's sake it's a repurposed ship made into a restaurant and an actual boat is where we decided to do our podcast and it's swaying like crazy i hope we don't throw up historic register of historic places we're recording on a zoom h2n in the middle of the Hudson River it's probably not right on the banks of the Hudson River there are helicopters going by listeners we're sorry if we're sorry this is not on video we're sorry that you may have the occasional here hello everybody and welcome to the fdp by android authority where P stands for podcast i am your host of course Joshua Vergara what's going on everybody and yes we are changing things up a little bit we had been contemplating changing the name of the podcast for a little while for very specific reasons nothing too crazy however but nonetheless we did find that the hashtag fdp was pretty popular among you guys on social media especially on twitter and we liked it as well so we decided to call this podcast the android authority fdp where P stands for podcasts and the rest is up to your imagination this week we have a super special show I'm really excited to bring this to you guys on as usual when we go to particular trade shows or in this case the LG g4 press conference and launch we get to see our friends in the industry and I was able to get a few of them to sit down with us and to talk to us about to the LG g4 and among other things we do talk about project 5 for a little bit even at the beginning of this show but what was even better was that we got to record this on a very unique location I have Florence ion from Green Bay and PC world who suggested that we should go to this restaurant nearby that was on a barge and had a ship connected to it where you can sit and eat and drink now the ship is actually on the Hudson River it's just flat floating and swaying to and fro so you'll hear a lot of noise in the background helicopters going over and you can hear actually the boat creaking while it's moving around and was just really fun and then I also had michael fisher from pocketnow and dom Esposito of 925 Google and also from his own YouTube page the youtube.com slash dom channel and we were all just able to sit down out in the open in the brisk New York City night air and be able to talk for quite a while about the LG g4 and plenty of times did we get off the rail so I hope you guys enjoy this tangent adverse of the fdp if you're watching the YouTube version of this podcast then you will have already seen at the very beginning of this video that I put in a couple of clips just to show you the setting that we were in at that it would be really nice to show that to you guys so if you're on the audio version of the podcast thank you so much for listening on all the different podcasts networks but if you want to see just a little bit just a little bit of a behind-the-scenes look as to where we actually recorded this time around you can head over to the Youtube version at our YouTube channel don't forget to keep hashtagging that fdp all over social media and head on over to google plus when you have a chance and you'll find our polls weekly so that we can find out what topic you guys want us to talk about on the fdp without and you further ado here is episode number 15 of the fdp LG g4 launch g4 preview a little bit of project by and a whole lot else help you guys enjoy I'm still grab you are my friend great way to start I basically can't go on Instagram one-on-one data because they eat so much data and I'm like why do you want them to do oh you're on a carrier than minutes you're gonna wanna fun like your elements my data i just bought a lot of it i'm on a family plan sure your do I can I sure my data with six people gotta be kidding me what is what it's so cheap for you is it your Romanian extended i have several cousins so I really cool and welcome to the podcast yeah no it's nice as we don't have to worry about an earthquake happening like we would in California yeah firstly and then as she says that is tsunami you're stuck to my god funny oh we're on the camp would be fun yeah we'd be mono we go driving up 40 50 sweet well this is this is a product of low suggestion and your excitement oh yeah here on a boat are you recording right now ok we're on i see i did one of my goals for the podcast when I ready to alive is always have somebody asked me as a musically might know Israel okay and then what the intro music starts oh no I do a candidate Rojas of off production like later tonight over and say everything that's needed but this is a special one I love doing the live ones because you get like guests but also you know because you see each other one yeah you know not behind no you can't another what we means you can I around with my upload and teasing one another with french fries which is apparently i'm eating french fries and it's well documented to my to my android authority fans that i am a diet men diabetic so i am being very good right now as I and I am a woman just so every that's also very well documented DOM is editing right now he is he is dipping right now it's awesome I am editing a video we were talking about carriers just at the beginning of the podcast I did want to work a min a pretty loose on this one we are going to talk about the LG g4 obviously because we've all put out our videos and content on it I'm curious we're talking about the carriers how did you guys feel about project 50 I got an extended podcast laughs when you can t well damn Ilan sorry for one they're using sprint and tmobile correct yes their network so yes those so technically for me it doesn't okay sprint if in my area is where they happen to be using sprint's then nevermind basically I'm interested in it but also it's not for people that are data home I feel like based on their pricing okay just 10 gigabyte the ten dollars a gigabyte is not like the best in the world especially if you're going through a lot of gigabytes but if they're also minutes they're pushing the idea that you should be going through a Wi-Fi hotspots all the time too that's a lil punkin yeah but I mean where those aren't everywhere in every city that they're offering or is that this is going to be available either like I know like where I'm at there's not a lot of a whole lot of hot spots everywhere yeah so I don't know you know I think I think it's cool that maybe yeah google if anything they're just trying to break the mold yeah and that's cool I think I can hit back is that it only pushes other carriers further blank well we had a very spirited conversation about last week on the ftp i make the case that i honestly think that we're very spoiled by the term on the way there where he at least well buy it because the joe hindy god bless them uses like something like 50 gigs a month or something there's no that would turn out to be a good through 20 so what does your so what's your argument is this is not necessary I as much as I love having a limited data on my t-mobile plan if I was on Google fly I would be more aware of what I music right and thus you know I think the point is moot because if you know you're gonna pay ten dollars per gigabyte you're actually going to be a little bit more Spartan about your usage and what even is that a good thing I think it's a good thing because if the argument for the carriers is that the ultimate high usage of data whether it's the speed of the bandwidth or how much bandwidth is being used is the problem with data packages then here is a model that makes everybody look yeah aren't they already aware like I mean we've been through two years three years now in the states of most of the carrier is not offering unlimited data I think we're pretty well whipped now yeah that's a thing is because everyone was really everyone on the podcast for the most part well mostly Joe was really up in arms about the fact that there's no unlimited tea or anything like that and I said the thing is there's no such thing as i'm linden everything gets throttled at some point to make a room for everyone else is on the same network right the question of course is like what what prompts the throttling and for me the tmobile terms and conditions or what sort of turned me around on that because i went into the t-mobile store being like you're going to give me unlimited in i think you're full of because i think you've got the throttle me after five gigs arbitrarily and whatever then i looked at the terms that it turns out that i haven't been corrected on this yet i'll be happy to buy one of your listeners if this applies they'll only throttle you if you're doing something like torrenting or doing something that is the unis case you're right and essentially a tiny you know list of circumstances none of which apply to me ever so I do have unlimited data and every time I pick up my phone that matted bit of like I still do it I feel like a like a victim of like carrier data abuse because i'll pick up my phone seriously still every time and be like oh I'm gonna go to a Spotify or I'm gonna blow to website oh god what's my David doing right now I over my limit oh I don't have to worry about that and that constant feeling of like oh god oh I feel better because I could do whatever I want yeah I think that's seriously undervalued by the bigger carriers that don't offer on the mat data I just think that I don't know I I saw a lot of people being really pissed off at that at that payment model and I just thought to myself there's there's there's no reason to completely discredit it if you really think about where we are in mobile carriers today in fact that unlimited is so true this is a term that i really think we've been spoiled that's all and Joe called me and said you just hate unlimited data like no I love it I need you know but you know if yes it's true if you're super data-hungry maybe the project five models I've read about at the same time they're showing off a particular system that addresses a lot of problems that data so I tend to look at a classical I like the idea of project 5 because it'll make my you know crazy glamorous world traveling life a lot easier awesome um I'll be able to buy data in the States through google and just go to Europe and be able to have data because right now I'm on Verizon and I don't have the luxury of going overseas on t-mobile and being able to you know just carry that over with me I have to always buy a sim card and that's such an annoyance and just in just have the ability to have maps like google maps on me when I'm in a foreign country in a new city like I just I love having a little bit of security to that point I used my particular data plan until 2 to the effect i feel like 85 to 90 dollars for my plan because i also get tethering which is another issue that project fight hasn't really addressed I wasn't offering yeah doesn't really offer it and if they do they don't really know that no one knows how it's going to be offered well i don't i don't think project fires for us yeah this one thanks it's not it's not for us it's for a very different subset of people and you know google is really going in the direction of trying to go you know first of all they're really going after emerging markets right with the Android one and everything and I think project Phi has some sort of relationship to that particular game plan yeah they have going on like they're just trying to tap into a particular subset of the market that the big carriers haven't tapped into I mean maybe this is maybe we should see this more as the end of the MVNO even though it is technically but like the end of the independent you know like Oh boost mobile who cares why would you do boost mobile you can go through google we actually got pitched a couple stories from MV knows who said hey Google is doing this fine thing you want to write about our thing that's the same exact thing we've been doing for years it's the same things that I should not call Google Phi and I actually you know I pitched it to our news guys and I was just like you guys make this decision this is not my decision to make right now I'm busy doing 105 reviews and came back to me basically said yeah the whole right the google fight thing is significant because it's google yeah and it's not terribly but even they know i mean obviously we did people say it all the time that when you buy into a Google ecosystem you're buying into being a beta tester and there's a reason why but requires got project fine so all right right you know I thought that was going for but yeah we're uh yeah I just wanted to get you guys to stop something because we had a very long conversation about last week on the FG video so I think I sort of Satan wanted it to be something like that it was like nerdy sheep like a nexus fountain you know I mean I think I I really i like that you can only use over the Nexus 6 I think that's I think they're very aware that that will curtail growth or I think that's exactly what they're trying to do also i don't think that XOXO gonna buy nexus 6 it doesn't know it doesn't but i don't think that's what they I don't think that's that's the primary objective I think it's like a secondary objective they probably said to motorola's oh yeah but but primarily they probably want to you know just curtail growth until they scale it properly but I really wanted it to be something cool and different than nerdy but now I like like three I can think of three other ambient I was doing the exact same thing yeah and if you're happy where you are already it doesn't feel like those on your recent move just yeah right but yeah so yeah we're obviously in NYC looking over the hudson river from our boat it's a beautiful view our boat i would say it's a ship oh I'm sorry I i I'm not wearing boat shoes as Michael is I don't have I obviously don't have the expertise you should also mention we're overlooking the World Trade Center which is where the LG event was held today it was and I want you to feel ya so 0 which I'm in just a instagram i'm gonna do that as we're talking ok um as I usually do when it comes to these events I only that's the same thing and Michael is this like how's New York have been treating you up to this event so what we do it's I love coming here yeah yeah there are people who fall in love with New York City they want to live here I'm not one of them I've never really wanted to live here James is Claude every time ever since I started this gig and it entails like these sort of bimonthly treks to New York sedation or to come look at awesome technology that's secondary like coming to New York City as a visitor and walking the High Line like we did earlier to NAB's walking the streets and talking to people and telling people where to find the bathroom on this ship that's also a restaurant it's awesome it's especially in the dance rington so this has been really really cool and the fact that they held in the World Trade Center i thought was great because that's the first time i've been inside the tower exactly i've never been anywhere near that area I am does somewhat surreal he's super surreal and I just want to quickly share I don't mean interrupt but I want to quickly share a story when I was catching a cab because i was running ridiculously late sorry editors to the event i asked the guy like oh he's like where you i'm like one of the World Trade Center and he asks a cabbie and the cabbie goes oh you're going to ground zero come in let's go to ground zero we're going to ground zero you just kept saying that and I and I just was like well I'm not going to ground zero and we're in the World Trade Center he's okay you're going to ground zero and I'm like well I I I guess if you want to look at it that way that's where it was and that's what happened but I put on a shout out on twitter twitter and apparently it's still referred to that New Yorkers still refer to it as we're on zero i dunno and that's just that I think that's a new york culture thing that I don't you know I'm not a part of so I don't really write understand the slang but it makes sense to me yeah um it was that for a decade so I understand it's understandable that would stick it might be that forever well and I mean not not to make this a slightly grim podcast here but think about Boston for instance like you're always gonna think of bus and strong because of what happened you know with the bombing so I would imagine the ground zeroes sort of New York's way of having it if not maybe it's just I can respect just exactly like like paying homage to the fact that this really awful thing happened but everybody is still here and Joe you know everybody I just wanted to I just thought I just thought those interesting thing that happened this morning you know it's so like on the flip side of that and that's a dwell on this too long but I had a similar moment but completely the opposite during the fresh mountain I was working through all the friggin videos all the work we had to do and you know we're doing the job of reporting on this phone yeah and I realized for about two seconds that I'm 60 floors above you know I mean I'm in this space that talking about this oh yeah historically I remember and I'm and then like three say I had three exactly three seconds to countenance that before I had to get back to work because that's the nature of our of our thing yeah we're all racing each other to do something well I came over to the window and while you were taking a picture and I was like it's extraordinary isn't and it was that you told me it was at that moment that you finally realized what you were taking a picture yeah because we were taking a picture of the window of the entire Manhattan Island but the atom from the vantage point of a very high of the sky floor right 64 yeah yeah but it's just a shame that's that the fact like the the the nature of our profession often prevents reflection even even in the everyday phone screens indeed oh that's a good one haha so how's the house me over in treating you Tom actually Michael is flanked right now by a bunch of West Coasters poppin Malone New York representative yeah mush as the DOM is really triple dipping at this one now he's multitasking like he just he just came away from his computer chick talk on his phone for a second is back on the computer and now we're in the pot guy get a tablet I've got together a video dude I mammals not actually you know taking music for it now proving my point there is no time to do anything else but work Yeah right so she's in the ashram I am me not here I mean it's the first work I've really done today aside from the domain widow I don't know i don't consider filming like work even though it's technically was guilty of initiative it's just were on the work is editing and putting together a whole package oh yeah exactly the way i was writing the script that I did the voiceover and cutting it together right now yeah the filming is the artsy part of it that I enjoy a lot oh for sure yeah Dom did his voice over here on the boat yeah that's right alright so obviously the event we're talking about as LG g4 that we were up One World Trade Center and that's the part that's confusing to people because you have to say One World Trade son that's tlj that's another building yeah in internet you know are there at one no there's a wide one one with no I thought there I thought there was like another's there's two buildings I know what yeah cuz the isus there's no sorry New Yorkers we are clueless west coasters except for Michael for me he's just he's from Boston or know anything it not from elite from 100 you are a living boss oh I had no idea I'm sorry that's no helicopters overhead yes beautiful sound of helicopters I mean the city that never sleeps always stuff well that was reno no it's my room no reno the biggest little city city like clearly no city that never sleeps that was the kitchen will we is it like right over us that is a hospital helicopter is just to make this more grim there's probably a person who need surgery and is going to a hospital right now they just they just done for joy what's going on that helicopter have you guys ever been in a helicopter ready I'd minute left for a fact you have been yeah I wasn't there but he took us up in the sound to test how well that's nice my dad took us up in one when I was 12 in Hawaii that's cool that's really good well we're uh we just did the pocket did yes and we talked extensively about the g-force I like i said i wanted to keep I just it's just nice i hang out with everybody we always say that when we get to get way out um so I'm just going to keep it really really light obviously there's comfort all over the place and you can hear all of our opinions opportune for so I'm just going to go around the table just give us your opinions so i'll start with Michael as you started with me the last podcast happy happy to give you my opinion on the complexity surprised well we'll go into some of the specific stuff depending on your guys sure yeah pleasantly surprised i thought would moving when they were first toast on the lead shots of like this weird leather-bound phone with the look of a G flex 2 and g3 having a baby yeah that's kind of like and then you know Snapdragon 808 those kind of an unknown factor I didn't know anything about the screen they like the camera can't look promising but we didn't know and everything they showed today they display they showed in a fast but not too fast and very confident matter and now this is where the specifics come in which I won't talk about but I have the leather one really like leather phones this has been established and so I think that is tainting my perception a little bit at this at this point six hours after I first laid hands on it so come back to me later I do all about that bamboo and then you somehow when I was about that ebony oh yeah yeah yeahs noted that would that do not misconstrue me sir I just found out the most amazing thing to cut you off yeah there are plugs on trains plugs yeah like on the amtrak train yeah there's plugs on an art to and SF i use the moment I was like worrying about like editing it out here and stuff because the wind you get back it's kind of far and long sounds like damn it I'm not gonna be on the charge and like oh yeah no man you're good yeah you're funding right anyway back to gville yeah I hope you added that hahaha no that's all state that was gonna complete surprise to me I'm sorry just had some clam chowder everyone he did i'm eating friday he had clam chowder and I would have been surprised if the swaying of the boat do something I don't know where you would have been in his vicinity so exactly wishes though yeah chowder much I love her so anybody pours a good time so far what else is somebody else talk for a second like a for every planet alright I'm going to talk about the g4 I am NOT it like Michael I was pleasantly surprised by the specifications by the things that were announced by the performance with the short time that I've spent with it however I'm not particularly keen on the whole leather back and the whole other aesthetic like that's just not even though the yellow leather bag completely matched your top it did oh but I'm just I'm not so on the idea of leather on a smartphone it's just a little two-inch for me I just I'm just enjoying the glass and metal backs that are coming out now in the Android world so I mean we've been using so much plastic all this time but then as far as let's see features without having or movable back whether it's whether or not yes they went for a unibody design do you really think that it would I think that would be a huge game changer yeah okay because I think LG needs to tell a story like Samsung because that's their big competitor and but they're all obviously trying to tell a story contrary I know and I totally get that but if you think about it Samsung's sort of trying to tell the same story as iphone right now yeah and I guess Mikey you know i'm not i'm not trying to say that to be an annoying naysayer it's just that if you think about the common consumer it's not us it's people like my mom and my dad and my relatives and they don't care about the things that we care about they just see the iphone and they see this really stylish phone very easy to use interface and so the android oems like they kind of have to mirror that but you know Google's I was really catered to the nerds and it's great for the nerds but it's not so great for mom and dad who want to be part of smartphones oh yeah there's not having any trouble keeping up with the iphone globally I mean it's no absolutely no beating iOS and hands off well the to norway flow if ya slow they're backing everyone whoa on that is the g4 phone that you could recommend to your mom and dad for ease of use I would recommend it to my dad I would not recommend it to my mom this is not a fun that she would like I think because of the leatherback but I could see my dad using this I could see him matching it with his outfits my dad's a little eastern euro metrosexual so I could definitely see him sporting lovelies all right Oh Michael the gym hard to say since you were rubbing yourself it could happen cuz i would still be talking just talk too much no no no I think I you know adequately summed up my position I think I was the res but also you know like we fully believe in having her for six or seven hours yeah it's closed right now sorry i keep my keep wishing that was open yeah right we're right next to the injury wants to visit it and it seems like this cyclic bit like the place to be yeah i agree i were all more in we're at the what's called the frying pan which is basically a ship just floating on the outskirts of the hudson river or you can eat even though even though the the actual place where you get the food in the drink is actually on a barge yeah nobody is rocking just serenely okay we're happy or do we walk off we're going to be shaking as we block oh yeah our heads are going to still be yeah yeah well apparently there's an entrance right next to us into isn't usually like a restaurant game this ship or a restaurant is that little part or else fail because it's icy out there oh yeah keep expecting this to be over ellicott well that is so everybody on the podcast knows it's a really beefy helicopter looks like a lot of lights on there every time they running light flashes you can see the rotor spinning and it's very very looks like a police copter it might be we we are not helicoptered experts victims are not helicopter aficionado well I do think that as I second that oh yeah as I said in the weekly I I really do think that the Jeep horn will it's the one that's close to surpassing my expectations because I do think that the s6 and in my case s6 edge is probably the best phone that's come out this year it's the fond of deep bench the edge not not not because of the edge of just saying this when I happen it's I mean the to use it interchangeably with the s exactly the truth okay the phones to be I'm not seeing specific at the edge just what to say cuz I can the flat one I think is better than any way I love them both as a thing it's just the wasn't I Samsung's offerings offer riskier energy their offerings for sacrifice you're very good but I do think that it's the phone that in the last two trips that I've taken I actually haven't had my DSLR in a bag because I could just isn't it great it's amazing i love that camera and the thing that i said before was if the camera on the jeep or is just as good if not better than the s6 of the edge because it has that manual mode and we handed over the top yeah and when you're talking about the manual mode a lot in the previous part comes in but I'm feeling we're gonna talk about nine hell yeah no you know I I really need to take it out for a spin I think after so my boss is gonna be doing the review and I think after he's done I'm gonna really take it out and check it out and see how it compares to you know an SLR but honestly I was really bummed about the s6 is pro mode that was that's really limited it is really limited and not only in promote is basically a gimmick well the promote is basically all the settings you will get on a auto like a semi auto mode exactly on a reg a DSLR summer it's all the way down on the barge and then you'll see and then you'll see some stairs DOM is going to the bathroom and I hope you edit the south no just I'll stay I have when I started this podcast I looked at it not as a tech podcast I looked at as my way of channeling all the wonderful podcast and I feel sick see where it really anything goes and you know we've had plenty of those situations on the ftp before I used to have a podcast anyway yeah they are the s6 and s6 edge their manual mode it's it's like if you are an average remote on a cat on a DSLR and you look at the white balance it would say that yeah it's a farce it's like oh you guys wanted manual modes will give you like a couple little sliders here you go and then you're like what do you think I am samsung I want some full-blown manual controls right now that's all I wanted a life yeah that's all you have to give me but as you said they're not a tithing that they're going for the bigger right otherwise I know I know and now I feel like I'm contradicting myself because this is the problem with being an Android user in the stand age is that it's extremely hard to choose which phone you should stick with of course opposed and that's the that's the that's the downside of having such a big egos but that's also advantageous because you have a lot of choices yeah and no that's what LG is trying to tell the most you know that they have they have the camera different from the rest of them out there the manual vote is one of the best parts of the camera experience I really do think it necesito mi s quebec rotor now what the best part done right now is that we have tangents not because I general remaining to us stuff section happen it's because of our own okay okay let me keep we have considered morning erection but yeah the is obviously a load with all of its robustness I'll say that hasn't been offered any other phone and I think that's great isn't even just talking about what do you talk what the manual you're talking about the manual controls that i'm using right now by the way I'm not just digging off in her podcast yeah I'm trying to take a long exposure to picture of your beer to see if i can evaluate this thing um you're saying you haven't seen this on any other phone not to this level of detail not to this level of kelvin readings Mike it's got a histogram sub-100 stops on iso amalfi it's got a histogram that's what makes it legit yeah and also the the simultaneous raw and jpeg files all right but that we've seen that before the Lumia 1020 had that let me attend funny at all these android by my friend this is always not that was not specified as android authority Mike oh good good day to you now I was about on an android not an Android yeah I suppose I have to specify that but at the same time you know obviously I haven't seen anything like that on there and I was really excited to see that and it makes me believe in let's say the color spectrum sensor that they're using because you can actually pick a Kelvin reading on the actual white balance in the manual can I can I just like be really ignorant for a second can you tell me what a couple reading it okay so from a particular spectrum for those who don't know yeah yeah for a particular spectrum of white balance you're able to make you're here you're able to make the sensor on a camera a view light and certainly in a certain way lower kelvin readings will create a more looky hyar cover me was incredible ready ready okay or yellow which is why nikon I cannon shooting slightly different color modes exactly the way that they interpret why balance is a little different and that's why LG said a lot of great stuff about the camera because a lot of its very true you can't have low aperture but also very small sensor yeah that makes sense and you can't have high megapixels and a small sensor so the sensor on the g4 Lex you a little bit bigger which makes complete sense to me and thank God some 150 white balance on the other hand it's just the way that the camera sensor interprets the light so let's say you had a you have sunlight coming from a window we also had a yellowish all yeah light going on the same source you could hit the auto the auto white balance and you can find it but then you can also do the other thing where you can put a white piece of paper in front of your lens and you tell it interpret this as y based upon right lucky what was it like you would with an SLR like how he would set the white balance or you know use the high dropper and Lightroom or whatever I'm sure wish on some level I do think the color spectrum center is trying to do without really having a white dog scored but to be honest like they had a white balance car available then you know if they said that they could do that functionality I think that'd be even better what about we didn't talk about this on the weekly but what about the the IR functionality built into the color sensor how it sees the world visually yeah that's amazing the IRS yeah that's the color spectrum symptom yeah so is that what's what's enabling all this a little bit i feel ya but even even than just having the full color gamut in the white balance reading my box leader it's just a feature of good candy the more the more we talk about it the more I'm really convinced that LG's it knows what it's doing with your particular device it call me Pete says never put a cassette yeah yeah you know exactly exactly and Samsung has yeah um and they're doing this whole thing with with cameras yes so do we know who makes the sensor inside the g4 it wasn't specified okay definitely not I wouldn't be surprised if it was in house because you can't just source the Sony assumed you censored expect it to be a larger sensor contigo them cellular I'll look it up but didn't we don't know from one of the links isn't it there there isn't because this bubble screen is there's no that's not nothing there yeah I don't know well Bobby we will talk about the megaphone we just returned and I was just saying how awesome it is to see that LG's really put a lot of thought into the camera yeah yeah I mean it's cool i like having the manual controls but again for me like for smartphones and i think for a lot of regular people you just want to take something on your pocket and shoot a good picture what just true about having to worry about stuff like like like the the decisions that it's automatically making on that this scene i shot it throw those people that see what we're doing here I showed a picture a photo there was the Sun setting behind like a skyline over here and there was like glare on the water and there was like random lights and it made like they look like it made the right decisions as to what to what to expose properly you mean like hey I don't know I like that in a camera and that's how they make us all ours nowadays get to the point where like you just put in manual mode scope just take your photos of them sorry auto mode yeah I don't know why I said manual mode I'm sorry I mean I just want to take it out and shoot a good picture yeah but I suppose even there are a lot of people that will use the raw stuff and design mode and from from a marketing perspective you know to be able to tell people that oh here are all the settings that go into what create your auto photo and you could give and that's actually a really good thing to do for lg's to have that thing that they can mark it with and say that you know you tell an average person like my mom and I use her as my benchmark for to know the common person right because she's into tech not as much as I am but she like listens to me and what I you know suggest to her so she if somebody were to advertise and say oh it's got these manual controls for the camera that would instantly I feel like that would make somebody who's just kind of a common tech user thank you well no I think it would just make them think like oh it has something very special about it that all like the keep the nerds like to use like it must be something you know ya know can't thought that people would think that too yeah nokia has other problems I mean that's Windows Phone that's a different ecosystem we're talking android air no no no that no that's exactly my point it didn't doesn't matter all that is irrelevant they thought they could sell that phone based purely on the fact that the camera was amazing and while they did sell some it wasn't nearly we're talking about a whole but that's because windows phone is it just yeah this one's Holly guys instead of the Dead been ahead that ship with Amber obviously wouldn't have sold more units I'm not disputing that do you think it would have been a best-seller well if that was the first phone that Nokia put out on hand droid yeah nothing probably not because they have to establish themselves as a threat again and also that chassis is just too thick it's a warthog yeah but I guess what I'm saying is that i don't i don't agree i think that people see manual controls on a camera and they say oh god I don't know how to work that at all I don't know what to what to do with it now I just want something that takes a great picture when I fired up I think this would be this this manual patrol thing appeals to you know photo gigs sure and that's a segment that I don't frankly don't know how big it it is ok I can see that being the case you know I guess this is just me expressing my excitement yeah I'm not saying you're wrong don't you be wrong I'm just saying you know i like how would how will it affect the sales I don't think focus I finally started looking at assoc android smartphone cameras at this particular lens it was looking at it in the sense that a lot of what we're seeing in these sensors made for smartphones it's basically just on the software side how the company interprets let's say a cloudy or incandescent white balance and then sort of shades it like a filter what the sensors able to make this sensor on the other hand because these manual controls are so low class make me feel like this was a real deal so large not just not really DSLR like construction but something that was made with that integration it was well thought out yeah very well thought I think that what I'm changing some of the settings in there something's actually having in that Lance something mechanical is happening at me there you can show me all day that any company every come you doesn't swear they do that really cool graphic where that the lens comes out in like 18 fixes yeah yeah but UCSB yeah but nothing really really like those parts are really that those parts are making your phone or become what you're seeing and on the manual mode when you change those settings it actually changes on the viewfinder not because of a software thing but because those are actual levels and units I actually feel like I'm changing what would be the lens on way too long so can I ask you and they spent a lot of time talking about it at the presentation it's been a lot of times on with the camera yeah do you think they'll they'll make it like one of the primary legs of their ad campaign for this thing they better and they all mystic matter because one of the one of them the main leg of LG's parking is obviously work oh look at this this is what Samsung did we're just as much better but this camera is has has a lot to offer and if you get the photo geek segment the people who have cameras but also use smartphones which is every camera user then that's already a pretty large segment no here's here's the other thing though is that that segment doesn't equate to millions of phones sold yeah true but you have to win your battles where you can come if we're able to get five percent that's five percent on top of all the other people you already it's awful but they need a cell now they need to sell millions of phones to people that just bought a galaxy s6 right then that was what i was saying off for ya yeah i saw the dog since you were back like your thoughts on the g4 how did you feel on the phone itself I'm a fan I mean I think they did I think they did enough to not call it a g3s doesn't have to be asked well it's just it's a metaphor right yeah yeah it's just people get yeah like the one m9 is really one mas yeah I mean it because it doesn't sound as cool thing like when I'm 8.5 right now or gay orgy 3.5 you know what version 2 I think that I don't know that the software is just kind of whatever to me it's all the same but I'm I'm excited about the cameras well the display yeah it's new but it doesn't really look that different to my eyes at least right now the quad HD is just a marketing thing at this point no but I mean the quantum yeah oh yeah i mean backseat to the Quantum's the thing is it's like yeah whatever we did LG I get it they can't go anywhere else they were the first smartphone to ship with a quad HD display yeah I can't go anywhere else from that yeah they want to go for k which is just absurd in my opinion sigh agree so screw that you know I would just if anything long-term I would like to see just at the camera solid and the battery solid because if the phone feels good in the hands I think it feels better because they're harder edges like on the side of it then there were on the g3 so you got a lot more sense of grip like I'm not going to drop this then and if you do go with the leather back as much as I'm not a fan of it it is the lock review kind of kind of questioning yeah we talked about this on the last podcast and I think what I meant by can I ask you questions can I say a statement I really wonder if people would be calling at the g3s if it weren't for the leather option I think the leather option is what is protecting LG from people is it different design it's not really is a lot different actually not that idea the front of it looks like a one plus one yeah I mentioned I yeah the front of it looks like a one place only has a silhouette well a number i don't really think good oh come on do you remember when we were reporting on the G flex 2 when I said that yeah yes yeah but this is not look like a sec exactly like you except it's missing the curvature i well maybe we were may be right but listen uh is a G flex 2 that went in like a flat iron yeah but at the same time they started this this presentation with 10 minutes out hey remember smartphone history remember people used to do fun things like two different designs and make different hardware yeah nobody does it anymore things are boring there's this phone that looks a lot like this photo released had Melissa leather one I really think they would have been called on the car before probably by me because I wasn't had that to lean on it amended by donor stickers plastic one looks a lot like last night let me let me let me break it down like this okay break it down HTC had the one I made or you know good good solid build and everything o Allah blossom HTC releases the m9 different things in the m9 but not different things that are better than the MA here we have different things in the g4 that are better than things that were in the lid g3 so climb to the same stuff but LG actually moved forward and improvements where there were you know failures last year and cows were slaughtered a leather there you go I'm sure we should have done a pun count yeah we're starting the podcast load that's like the first one we need to try to do that earlier to it I guess yeah you were tweeting me cow funds yeah i was too you know saying like what is this phone grasp it no one came i actually in my hands on I had a header that was um like an h2 header for a section that was cows died for this phone and I felt like that was maybe a little bit too grim so I changed it in a good night of coming for the person who brought up 911 on my podcast I'm sorry oh my god I just realized i did that I'm sorry oh okay did you raise all these objections when motorola released the Moto X 2014 with all that's left so I wasn't there because i was at Aoife yeah what I mean like any other like no and I ain't nobody jumped on and I think the problem for it's because I wasn't there and I realize it's a lame excuse it's because I wasn't they didn't sink like the work how did it go well that's the thing in his LG LG made such a big deal about how this is the same leather that's like featured on me coach bags or whatever not not coach I don't know if that's really a brand that's the same brand but they were saying it's the same a boutique brands that you'd find on Fifth Avenue you know and so that makes me think okay that's how I to premium death my date now we were saying earlier that every few more that is a different helicopter it isn't yeah what is what it's just with the helicopters are there's actually a hospital nearby and I airbackup at that holds like 30 day for within Wilson's family is trying to get off the island before the whole zombie thing again they left Jaden mine oh I'm sorry but uh boring ever being a Scientologist anyway sorry way thoughts of snow or not an Android we are not responsible for come here um we didn't I did mention really like the every g4 should come with a picture of the cow that I came from oh we go that is so California oh by the way where was this cat this comes from Beatrice the bovine inertia guys should come with a story you know this is key for one day look at on board Emily oh god ro I actually put my hands on like there are vegetarians and vegans are gonna be really bothered by this no you desert Linda I mean motorola nobody was father this is look because he did see how we can talk about genuine cow so angels or whatever eyes can see a face to the name basically yeah that people are having to shoulder cars yeah I don't know that I means is it's a mystery just awesome what every with other oh yeah I mean some mystery but you don't wanna think about it I don't know them hamburger I mean look at that yeah what about that I mean I own leather boots okay I have a pair of fries they're my favorite other areas / phony yourself why are all gonna be like the people argue PETA is gonna throw paint on us 30 is after that's how they retaliated throw pain away our foundation I would never I would never wear fur though first murder what's not okay not in the cone yeah you know what do you know what's at the base of that fur coat Luther good yeah I mean yeah but nobody has like actually like this how jackets it's like I how we're out for a jacket because they're just discarding the fur and they're just taking the skin and they're not using this like I want to know are there is the rest the cow being used for me like are we using the in Texas really where these guys already dead maybe they were diseased in like this source the prophecies no worse conversation really I was here with my friends Michael flow and Don thinking average gonna have a chip on guys just talking about I 911 Peter this is what we have today this week it's a debate nonetheless yes indeed that is what matters 15 years I'm rerunning for a political office is it gonna come back yeah i was playing i'm running for bart board in a couple years like now they're gonna be like her that time you talked about the cows smartphone what does that through with public transit I don't know so if leather is not the choice that you want to have with the Jeep do you want to see other ones up here I liked Dom's idea felt kind of know that was so poor or like something like fabric or something I don't know Wow wouldn't it be cool if I you should vote girl I did what is it I know that would be boring at all it wouldn't I could not be at all it would not be cool and I would be them it would stick to my jacket and then your car that you can put a vulgar pet your dashboard slap it on there yeah your GPS I'm not surprised from the guys well the hell in its ceramic do right it's ceramic ceramic is a ceramic on top of polymer AKA plans day okay it's a highly I didn't really or is that the one that's like painting a steel building a white oh okay it just goes a little bit heavier and yet softer to the touch I sort of ran yeah yeah hold of code of ftp this mission yeah damn why didn't I get some Adam testin I didn't I yea sorry I just don't know you Diggy that whole thing I think it'd be really cool if a smartphone manufacturer would let you send in like your own fabric from joann's fabrics or whatever and then they were just making a case for ya that's the ultimate moto maker she called me cause the California yeah those from the bay area from hell I from the gay area yeah yeah yes I say hello lie but you the only one who said yeah it originated where I'm from thank you very much and yeah you're coming down in LA to escape the bay area for I'm only coming there cuz there's a Disneyland yes you guys are why the people are mad at the buses fair enough it's true so okay I guess I know how much how long you're probably gonna have to edit a lot of this yeah we don't push your button don't push your button now just keep talking and edit it okay fair enough I'll shanna gentleman here you're channeling your your rush hour rush hour renegades it was about to say yeah push your button bow come on all right you know what wait rush hour renegades is that from full house sure yeah nice work goes Uncle Jesse I can we please talk about fuller house oh god you get you get 30 second I'm kind of excited I can't wait to watch full house I have to say and I go on work trips my favorite thing to do is like gets back to the hotel on time and watch nick at nite when full house is playing because i don't have cable at home she's here sure prince that's what I want yeah i was watching first Prince last night this episode with Carlton um tries to be ghetto he goes to Compton and he gets all oh yeah becomes all hood yo I'm asleep oh yeah and then he goes on the floor in mattress I don't watch fuller house if they let Bob second piercing oh god no no that would be a lot of bleep a yeah that's good right I love that but that would be so San Francisco and you just complaining by the gentrification that's happening in the mission right now it's perfect I love it I love it I'm pitching this idea that you're like sure now junction occasion yeah it's going to a dark place III can i will say about fresh prints I don't know if anybody knows this but Uncle Phil later went on to play and Klingon in several episodes he did even I know that and then wait for the grim he does oh sorry that was but yeah rest in peace uncle phil I'm just saying I'm just saying like you can't you can't go that route of not explain wait hold up hunk on the actor day yeah james avery having a heart attack right yeah even after getting health he still yeah the damage was done I that makes me sad but it also makes me pleased that my favorite father finger father character from an African American show there too many modifiers sentences because I don't I want to afford him all the respect i can give him okay because Carl Winslow is the best character ever written for television he was dead yeah yeah yeahs and Rio bill johnson is like damn hero what movie was the infield he was a sign of your movie yeah oh my goodness so that has a lot to do it yeah well okay we're changing the front end of a podcast to just have to because we like that hashtag so SD I could stand for anything yeah so yeah so the official party line now I yeah this is the fdp where P stands for podcast and that's all we're safe okay if you could have one TGIF oh sorry good oh no what you're gonna rise in my mouth I know what you're gonna know is gonna love this question I hope you do yeah I so do if you could have one tgif person review the LG g4 who would it be Thank from it from any of the decade that tgif was on I needs a show any of the shows yeah oh not what I thought you're gonna ask but that's even okay you guys go first cuz I actually self to think about my dude I got it I got it I can't remember shows I have to answer how they go up to n I have Eric Matthews we were here in Matthews preseason five or post college years post college ok here is that movie that will be a fun ass video in a one-way he's the older brother right yeah you who like inexplicably became dumb ass but yeah exactly he was the heartthrob the first couple really exactly and and after that from the same show i would say it's Hank because what would Howard Topanga review the g4 fully factual a little too factually I'm to eventually yes you got the two spectrums them that's up that's what I was good man mine is did you guys watch step by step yes Patrick Duffy what about cousin wit cousin Cody use the one we'd walk in and like do that yeah you would put the milk and the chocolate in his mouth and shaking special drink hey dude yeah just for our edification what were the names of other shows off teacher remember Curt exchangers was on it for a while hanging with mr. Raven Symone started her career oh no no she actually was on The Cosby Show first well sorry when she entered my consciousness in that night yeah exactly yeah cuz we were a lot too young dad wait a half Cosby Show no we were so little too young for that me after TJ because of the way the reruns get there were supposed to jennifer i think i have was like I look forward to all freakin we go see giant tsunami know about that week Toonami yeah I don't you network yeah Tommy watch it would sailor moon with on remember they would always change out like the number four slot a tgif like you did like eight o'clock in thirty nine o'clock would be pretty consistent 930 that slot man no no shudders lasted because that's what the kids went to bed and man that's back what kids have bedtimes d yes huh and no internet to they didn't have been in my its prey FYI i would have Sabrina the Teenage Witch oh you oh my G for review also tgif high though um because she would just like do magic with it okay oh no no I told that matter I would have Salem the cat yeah do this before we do yes with a little ways little waggy black tail and the way he just like moves his little puppet head that's really puppet and then you bring that up yeah why don't we why don't we bring that show back to actually it's streaming on hulu entire thing you think I'm back what is your answer dumb I I'm having trouble thinking of all shows the Family Matters full house going places step by step those are our teacher our teacher yes they were every single one of them really yeah before you were born hahahahaha wait who is the oldest here or the youngest brother you're the oldest Christy Nolan he's the light on the mic and that's it yes I'm 30 in December so okay you're older than me no wasn't me okay you're older than me 25 all right you're the youngest yeah I'm usually do do is yes unless Marcos around yeah they had Marcos like the nineteen the shuttle tomorrow in order to be on owned the out of them poor guy had to get back for a final but we we can we were the one to convince them and make his flight and he was gonna he was gonna like come meet up with us at the thing and then try to get back to the airport by seven o'clock yeah our simulator yeah we're like you should probably go right now get happens him often on the show to people now we were talking about Oh Marco hannifin phone.com great guy we've got to hang out today which is obviously the best part about these shows yeah see each other yeah I was telling him in Marco that we should just plan everyone should just plan a trip to meet somewhere that doesn't cost an arm collecting my backyard how much is a flight to set that's a SF for you just an Francisco yeah oh you would actually have to fly to sacramento to come see me my bro that's right back Minnesota be doing that I don't know a couple hundred six six hundred maybe cuz from Le to New York 136 one Saturday a couple hundred six hundred and one is the next time we're gonna see each other anyway as I almost fall over my question so this is the last flagship launch until the Moto X unless I'm forgetting something one plus will probably drop something with their night yeah Chinese we had this discussion in Barcelona Sarge or not or not I'll go bring it back on and then cool in that feature cool when you lay down on a wet towel at a delaminate saw little bit sorry anyway I saw that yeah man I to be beautifully what so none none of your going are you I would I am what are you gonna okay yeah I down the street from my work okay okay better go also flow in about a month yeah I never went to Disneyland right yeah I'm just mentioning that on the podcast now are you doing yeah there's nothing there for me yeah it's cool I'm so excited for i 0 i always my playground I have outfits that I have coordinated for i 0 i have my google maps bag that i use for i 0 that i carry all my stuff in I am I love I oh it's so much fun I'm not doing it I think it's great yes we don't I don't have it i disagree divided but this is gonna be the first year that I'm not gonna partake in all the junk food they have every freakin floor huh oh the junk food is the best part you just get cups and cups of like little chocolate covered espresso beans and pretzels and then just fried egg approaches the pretzels freaking a dude tom singer tom is testing out the low light at foreign-born 91.8 on point a 28-point a run games you see they trademark that at one point eight laser campti a merman I don't know man I don't know I've been taking a couple shots in the dark here and it is not doing that magical thing that I'm gonna say them a new word again that Lumias used to do where it would just make some like credible stuff ok we're doing a little analysis on the podcast here I mean it's not horrible let's put with that there for sure it is kind of crazy yeah i mean if i had an f 1.8 lens and shout that on a like a an SLR did you know it would be pretty good i just use the perfect but it would also mean that you need higher is slower shutter speed which is what we're seeing on that form something is wrong with us I used the main camera on this phone to take a picture of my face listeners and it it's making me look like Charlie Sheen at Ferris Bueller's Day Off let me see good wait Charlie Sheen was in ferris bueller's day off yeah he was the truggy at the under oh the sister anyway uh I tweeted this podcast is going off the rails hahahaha in the dark it wants to overexpose the highlights sure and that's a really common thing yeah but there are some cameras that put that have some weight yet but I know what the comment becoming it looks it's still it's almost good yeah looks good but we are taking pictures in the dark of lit things I would much rather try and get a shot of an unlit thing and that's the thing like what people need to understand that's the thing that I really hope the manual what makes people understand is that even in it DSLR if I were to take a picture of let's say this rearrangement very little like the back on even anything shining on it with a F 1.7 lens right it would still not look that great no I had to do it like a four second exposure to get some light on it and then it was just all crazy and that's exactly what I was in DSLR zai again just like my point before where people are spoiled by the word of limited p.m. are spoiled by smartphone cameras because like LG said smartphone cameras are trying to take away or Colby the photographer noticing yeah he said smartphones are trying to take away all of the work that us photographers had to learn to perfect this craft and if this megaload educates people as to why the photos are turning out the way that they are then I'm all for it I I completely agree with you um because I said at the same thing about an in dead yeah I'm going back to the 1020 but I'm not trying to argue that this is the tenth money yeah i'm just saying i wanted that phone to arouse a consciousness in people that like hey there is more to photography than you then just point and shoot and you should learn it to better yourself and maybe makes a better art yeah and I sort of expected I didn't expect that to happen but I wanted that to happen and for a short time having a camera as powerful as that made me want to take better pictures yeah well I guess that fades away every other novels I just want take that oh well what up keep it is just like I don't really shoot my vacation photos my DSLR as much as I used to just three too much upkeep yeah yeah there is there is a lot of there alive use cases that when like I was saying earlier I didn't have my DSLR me when I was in Seattle because he has six reform so long I did right and if the LG g3 g4 rather is uh is capable of doing that then that just means that the manual mode is the icing on top yeah work that's what I'm where I like that we are pretty much going to end on that profound melt because if we were going off the rails I'm going to tell I'm gonna tell everybody in the intro of that you know yeah we went off the rails a lot but there's a really great point at the end so stick around yeah I think though that are the tangents really transitioned nicely like they were like it wasn't just like oh let's talk about this you know and then it is we had different segues enjoy your shirt into the randomness nothing else is gonna be a great endurance test for the people who listen to show everything that through that junky metal woman's haha i'm talking about 911 only to talk about cow deb and TJ event easier but you know that's our Marc Maron's podcast is the WTF podcast that's what I'm saying I wanted this one of this podcast 22 to have a comfort to it you know so even when my team and I are on the podcast we end up talking about random stuff we spent 20 minutes last week just talking about III because we're going yeah I think I'm gonna go to that you're gonna go tonight I think I just want to go to just have fun you know so that other thing i don't like good it's a convention i can go to and I'm not obligated to do anything we talked about gaming a full-time those four even before we talk about project 5 suspect it was great but in any case I am a normally I do name off where everybody's from but you can find everybody but I do want to ask I will go around the we'll go around the table let's start with dom dom where can people friend youtube.com / dom 9to5 mac and 95 google com all right let's stop this was you know everybody I don't know who he is you should already and if you are in New York someone wait just one kiss coming out after it yeah should you can say hey all right I agree just go back in time and see that just go to the territories and look around and see what you missed hello about you I'm it pcworld and green bad com um I i just realized i talk about some main grim things and I'm like why would you want to follow me on Twitter or the article dinner I promise I'm not that grim usually um it's 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