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hello everybody and welcome to the Friday debate podcast by android authority discussing topics in android every single week I'm of course your host for the ftp Joshua Vergara from android authority what's going on everybody and we have another Monday release for the Friday debate sorry about that we did have late releases for this and the previous podcast and I apologize for that but that's just how busy Mobile World Congress was in barcelona spain this year we had last week me trying to get the editing done while covering some of the biggest products that we had at the show and then this past weekend all of us all five of us in total who worked mwc we're traveling back to our respective homes after finishing the show we of course were able to cover a lot of great products at mwc and that is exactly what the topic of this particular podcast is I just want to give a quick shout out to the five total people who we had at mwc including myself we had Bogdan who is one of our lead editors and he did a great job at the helm making sure that we had some great articles for you at android authority calm we had a sh who made the great history of nexus video and we got to meet him for the first time and see him at work it was a wonderful to have him as a presence there and he was able to get some wonderful shots of not just the products but of ourselves we were able to get some nice b-roll from him for a real that is upcoming then of course we have lon who was able to split the work with me and thus will we allow each other to relax a little bit at what was a pretty busy trade show and then finally we have Darcy our editor-in-chief and co-founder of android authority those last two lon and Darcy are our guests for this friday debate podcast as we crowded around the microphone in the apartment that we stayed at and i thought it was a nice way to commemorate the place we stayed at because well we rarely ever get to stay at the same place twice when it comes to these trade shows but we talked about our favorite things let's say from mwc and we also talked a little bit about our lives you don't get to hear from Darcy too often so it's nice to hear how he feels about let's say video games on how he doesn't really get them right now our conversation gets off the rails a couple of times but either way we are able to talk about our favorite things from the Mobile World Congress 2015 in barcelona spain and hope you get to enjoy I just want to get some housekeeping done before we get started you can follow android authority on all of the social media websites I Android auth on Twitter android authority on Instagram and then of course Android or D on Google+ and rotary calm and our forums and most of you are probably watching this right now on our YouTube channel where you can follow people like me ash and lon to those of you who are watching the YouTube version of this podcast please remember that while we put that up there for a courtesy for those of you who aren't on podcast networks those are the best ways of listening to the fdp get on pocket casts on itunes on stitcher anyone that you need in order to get your hands and your ears on to the friday debate podcast from there we do have some social media for our guests lon is at lon when one on Twitter and Darcy though he does not really do social media very often he did tell me to just say to everybody if you want to follow Darcy and see what he is up to nowadays you can just follow android authority without any further ado we're going to jump into this the seventh episode of the Friday debate podcast our post Mobile World Congress conversation with lon when and Darcy la cuvee it's all good so Darcy's never been on a podcast before it's really just talking but obviously you know it's so much matter yeah you know it's just a piece of content to look so you have to think about like you know what you're saying obviously so before you talk no it's gonna be a difference to it yeah exactly yeah but it's nice you know when like we're in such a good place yeah so in our in our apartment and just yeah yeah there's ladies recording that I would imagine yeah I did yeah so you're gonna mmm we're rolling yeah we're robbing my thoughts s is how it is sounded more mature yeah roll the punch yeah you got wrong with it okay I'll be natural ality really change the course of what's on my mind AC it's like that's why I don't like doing the candied rose anymore that's exactly what i was saying cuz then i spent about like a minute and a half just saying all of the logistics and all of the housekeeping and all that's cool i mean are you i personally you know the person who's been doing this for last four years yeah you know you always try and find things that are going to get you excited ya doin rub the scale out of honda there except trying to get on door honda conquer the Hidatsa nada i was talking to a runner reminder please last night to dinner and you say that they're sending him a honda center for week to review nice house he meant date Rob and I was like thank you for your b roll unlike CNBC's dude yeah you did ask thankfully it was yeah yeah I didn't see it from the auto yeah from our yeah Boni you bb double-team done I was on national commission I loved that baby that's one of my favorite yeah we shot so clear it was so cool never thought that was the one that proved them I my new lens was really good for interviews looks like speeding but yeah you're b-roll shots on our yeah also we had like three four angles going yeah you're holding that one camera the tripod and then I had the tripod back there yeah this looked really dynamic yeah exactly yeah that's why I was so good to have like a share yeah you know like regard sad she's probably like he said he did not in the air anymore is he he's probably back home by now oh he's always going back to London yeah he gets home by like nine o'clock nine o'clock so Tessa oh yeah you see the area no then yes I think London's time is a haunting powder I just back one or two hours yeah yeah maybe look 12 hours but I'm terrible at geography so I always has a search like the never on the bottom like a marina well I was trying to tell him like over new parents like went to watch the live stream that was just on like how it like an hour ago and I had to google what time is it in California when it's a p.m. in Barcelona or something yeah this really great website for that time be it allows you to be as like a flexible meter and yes I didn't even look at the google now Carla so I should have done because I didn't really happen but yeah oh I mean you know it's just been a long day and I'm happy that you on you got done you got to kick it today and let go places I got a lot of souvenirs and stuff yeah just one for me and then mail queue for my friends but I mean it's what you got different from what you got for no one else i got myself that hat oh there you go there i'm taking it isn't gonna walk around Kansas City like that's right yeah you're one of a kind I wore for a little bit like when we're at catalunya but I was like man I don't want to look like Torres the way you got a little yeah I guess when you look around you don't really see people wearing stuff like that huh you know no no nothing people from barcelona where barcelona like sorry they don't look please just be happy nobody reps their own City okay then what I see people weren't in California stuff in California toys remember in Hong Kong we went to california burger and it was like an exact replica what they call didn't know yeah exactly but the thing is cali burger they do the one thing in and out won't do and that's put bacon in their burgers that's the only thing that's missing it's so bad you ever been to shake shack I love it there's one in vegas now I mean all these case studies are going out all the time you know but why it's so much better and once it has nothing to do with phones you know by the spine I just been reading all about it and i watch all these videos and it looks epic and they have a secret menu like in a note so Oh shake shake it's great man hey what next every see yes we should go there because i'm a new york new york on man so i know i haven't tried it yet yeah but this only it's literally only in New York huh it's a huge phenomena yeah seems a little price here yeah exactly well yeah we're hoping we're gonna get a nice bite to eat a little bit later I believe oh yeah Barcelona is really great for all the food and everything but it's it can be kind of tough to figure out where to go because barcelona barcelona people is on a bad people in barcelona don't like Yelp or they don't do a lot of that stuff I went to place from the first night with my father and I was like they'll take us somewhere nice and then you know my dad was like why don't attack see februari he would take his wife and so he ended up taking us like his favorite restaurant and they had this menu then they just kept bringing the seafood lobster and you know I mean and this amounts to seafood and I know you don't like crustaceans and stuff you have to like music jackhammer open safety stuff i like them but i don't like working for them the one exactly like when we were at a la prada that day yesterday yeah I put the crimes in front of you did like you're like no no I don't want out no crap I mean everything that we had was perfect cuz yeah just yeah big thing is tuna gonna say yeah but the lemon and yes always read SMS and then something go Nicole god bless her for mobile give she she she was the one who basically picked everything out yeah there she saw everything she like razor clam yes oh she's at one great tasting food I mean she listened Taiwan yeah and they have crazy good culinary scene there in Taipei totally we've we've been very blessed to be able to hang out with them a lot during the show honestly like that's that's the experience that I'm always looking forward to having with like you as anybody else that's around you know it's like these be friends that have friends in the industry because it's so much fun to have them around it is being every year you know I mean you gotta be friends yeah and honestly frankly like the work we do is so highly specialized mm-hmm Nicole always reached out to me looks like some complex thing I mean in the beginning you know when things got started I would always reach out to them and they helped me so so much you know they are like I've told you already Nicole and Sasha are my oldest friends in there yeah they really are I guess we would have met first time you want to met them first event was he admitted we met at CES but we didn't we didn't really connect until mwc yeah but when I really when I really got to know sasha was at i/o google i/o yeah he just came up to me and he complimented me on my ass for review and never started talking about it so yeah that was a oh man that was such a good time but yeah we got to hang out with him a lot and they obviously we all get to see all the same stuff at the show so I once got their own opinions about I know he's drunk and I'm so late I got one year in right now so don't worry i'll let you know he's too bad what's not it's not gonna be that don't what Sam it show a sound board yeah all right I separate note that just reminded me of something so here I mean I love the s4 compared to the s5 but yeah but I didn't know and I don't think a lot of people know is that the product team that designed the s6 was the same product team that worked in the s4 I mean so much done as he had the s5 team mm-hmm he's working on the s7 and so what they do is they kind of also in a kind of populate talent but they move it around a little bit but my point is that there's such a long lead up you know cycle yeah it takes so long to manufacture and design these devices that you know I just don't think a lot I didn't know that yeah for example did you I mean no I didn't know that about it kind of makes sense though it's not the same group of people every time orest it's there's a core group and then they just kind of switching yeah like ammonia primary core group that's like having so many different final fantasies yeah it makes me think of call of duty because there's like two separate companies that may call of duty games yeah so that affects what was the name sorry what was the original modern warfare was like treyarch yeah yeah it was a little grating than one one strike left then it just turned into what it was we talked we didn't screw me yeah but sure because like I would love to have the time you know like PC hardware when I was growing up 9 14 15 I started in really exciting like even before you guys time I got a 3d effects card um it was a big deal because its first three to accelerate GPU that's kind of what beyond my passion with technology yeah totally it was a really big deal you know but video games the last thing we got chance to play than I mean if they were so more so you know I remember they had finally designed to mention i think was about it was battlefield bad company they designed an engine that you could actually don't blow up environments you could build buildings with like a rocket launcher those the first time but i know that was like man six years ago XXX years ago that's a long time six appeal right but like what what is gaming like now gaming like it so there's there's there's this weird disconnect from what used to be just all about creating an experience that everybody would love and then all of these artistic laid so i was all about this artistic movement like the order 1886 that just recently came out it's not a great gameplay experience but yeah but it's a great cinematic experience it's like a moving movie like it's an interactive movie but that's their ones like that and then you have erations like Call of Duty battlefield Madden and yeah Finn isn't like 2018 yeah yeah so there's this disconnect now from it because all video games used to be like everyone had like this this passion and this this drive to go in a certain direction but now everyone has the freedom to go wherever they want so Danielle I mean but the velocity they are very awesome because of the technology that we have butter stove pitfalls because sometimes the people who create the video games they don't realize they don't realize that they were too maybe they do obviously they do hmm but not everybody is going to like every video game now yeah not the way that we have nostalgia like stale talking about you know Super Mario gt3 I a nightmarish andreas yeah big deal yeah for me my command you know I know your old school tell they have modern Megaman sir no I was like you could do so much cool Capcom zillion capcom's doing terrible things to megaman they don't do it very often scam yeah kept my stomach's oh yeah does that c sega right we're talking to a girl like you know there used to be abdominal hardware company you know before we did the interview with imagination the GPU was in the dreamcast and i don't know if you guys remember the dreamcast but it was wrong oh yeah it was like right after there was a big device after the SNES her and no no it was around the time of the ps1 oh yeah and they just got destroyed by the PS wow yeah cuz it was generation it was sort of yeah behind in terms of hardware and yeah the graphics weren't as good or whatever yeah there was there despotism pitfalls or that and you got a ps4 and you have like this e3 and z3 compact in the tablet yeah what's it like gaming on it's pretty cool but there's a bit of latency depending on here enough so that you shouldn't be playing things like Call of Duty because you won't you will not be successful yeah but things like a dragon age or like a long-form story driven game yeah yeah that would be a lot better yeah so I don't know how to realize those imagination and dreamcast yeah Madison Dreamcast yeah maybe you have that interview was just like I i I'm kind of binge played games i like those uh tower defense games because it makes me feel like god I'm just like you get to the point where like there's so many things coming but you're like oh like you keep building back to the fat and then like the big do so come along there like indestructible yeah you lose cuz you're conceding book like I guess sometimes yeah totally don't know whole and getting presents here at a hearing GDC happen the same time as mwc yeah i'm like i was talking to arm and their dual presence is going on and I'd love to go to see that would be like a treat and a half yeah see the future gave me you see all those new trailers in and they do a big um unfortunately you know we can't clone ourselves question what had their winter clothes yeah but we see we see so much about like putting ourselves and somewhere somewhere different you know like those those weird um trolley or what is it like does the when it was a term like it's a tablet on top of it Segway oh yeah I don't know yours everybody yeah yeah ah I don't know but they do a like location independent video conferencing yeah who knows maybe they'll be the future Wow yeah there was one on Kickstarter it was android-powered and it was a robot that had video conferencing capabilities it was on wheels and it also had an arm that you could articulate from your phone and it was a quick spin went crazy viral I don't really know or remember the name for snack and look it up right now yeah but uh yeah I mean it just thought it was super cool anyway when I assignment you're fine on the noise your answer I'm your the gardasil podcast coverage is crappy attention the rules I well you know it's it's it's really nice to see like where things are going at the very least after doing this for a little while now I mean it's good to come to thing like mwc and see that you still see progress happening you still are excited for what's coming up because sometimes it wouldn't really you might you might not you might not have that connection with what's happening I mean blue on you and I we we've had our hands on so many phones by this point yeah it's something it's kind of crazy and then it almost kind of like you see these things and you almost feel a little desensitized by it all cuz i divert you see them and I don't know you kind of expect your mind just be blown but that that I've all it's just like yours like it was cool few buddies ask you what phone nearby um yeah sometimes like my roommate right now is he's been debating like real hard about what to get he's like should I wait or should I get the nexus 6 or whatever and you actually watched like you're like Nexus 6 vs iphone 6 video cuz he's been debating between those two phones and I'm like the thing is I don't I don't make I don't make a statement of you should just buy yeah yeah so he probably was like why did he and then I tell him I'm like well I mean I don't want to tell you what phone to get cuz I like you ultimately have to make that decision exactly like he loves the Android he's always been an Android user but I told him if if you can deal with the size of the Nexus 6 then go to Nexus 6 if you can put up with it I don't want to tell him one way or another yeah that's that's a good heart that's a good line to to toe honestly yeah I think but you know and good so now we were able to get into the meat of the thing like um what would you I'll frame it this way someone asks you what phone of mwc to get what would you what would you tell them but basically it's me asking you what your favorite thing here well wonder what was your favorite mwc thing here man I mean I i guess i have to go to the edge I really like the Essex Angela Stockholm is off yeah it is i agree yeah yeah it's hard to pick between the two but I mean I was really excited for the s6 in general like before we got here because I felt like Samsung really had a good a good thing on their hands like they're really gonna hit out the park and I think they did even though you know like a lot of people are feeling indifferent or whatever about it because of all the changes but going to lack thereof yeah what it used to be like the wrong yea it's going on rectangle design was a slab within the limited space yeah only you can only do so much with what you have I think they hit it out of the park yeah yeah tell me about that well I mean you know as a technology enthusiast you know I've never really been to into software and I know software is the magic that makes it all work but like I follow the supply line and research like I was reading about the air for a mobile devices like back in 2011 2010 because of course we have data or five you know our GPUs and our computers and everything but they were not unable to kind of hit that right power envelope but you know the benchmark Eastern come out and it's more than a two times to increase performance / gr three and it's the world's first device and that's just one first second first 40 nanometer has to see from a casinos I mean they be Apple no apples really kind of I wouldn't say in trouble are you thinking in benchmark scores is that what you're saying or no just in terms of memory throw put on the memory um it's just twice as much data and it uses less power per bit so exactly you know but the 40 nanometers to see like Samson was supposed to do that same size of soc for Apple for their a 9 but they chose to actually keep it for themselves and that's why apple's investing billions of Allah Israel right now it's the building their own boundary there for the next so she lives with imagination as well um oh yeah because they do parody are exactly how they've used as always you know for so so long the camera is really interesting because I know they spent billions on my advice or so but that's what I'm saying like um well is it possible that we have an iso solve camera but with neither side yeah right the dirt just not saying they make a sixfold front-facing camera that's gonna hit the market soon but Samson is only your kind of like in the big battle you know this one is phonies few profitable arms is their image sensor division we add they just can't do is with I so so so mmm not general that Jesus only sensor for it and I'm sure it's gonna be awesome and like 0.7 seconds you know it's really fast samsung knows our cameras anyway so yeah and that's what that's what happened to me the last couple days my one plus one died while we were trying to figure our way back here to this house and so yeah I I had a bunch of phones on my in my bag and I just was like okay I'll just swap the sim out and I started using the the Galaxy Note 4 and oh my goodness you know right you often forget being who we are how awesome certain phones are until you come back to it one day like I still I'm holding it right now I love the way this feels it's a great executive look no bamboo but whatever I didn't even get a bamboo back I'm sure yeah I got aftermarket stuff for that exactly i just go out to Hong Kong or something find it and that's actually really good segue into a big point contention you know which is you know one of the critical features that people loved about Samsung devices is my crusty and then automatically got a lot of emails from a lot of people about you know you got to talk to Samson and make sure they don't butcher the note by if they bring over what they did it is it's up to darcy come a bat phone you know no I mean but what do you think are they gonna bring over the design changes that they did with us 62 the nose no I don't actually I don't think they couldn't lead a was saying if they did I think they'll find a way to merge the two because yeah we were making this point before that the the note line is the flagship line yeah yeah and the S line is like the experimental line in a way you know they change it up I call me see the f6 now feels like a well thought out fully put together phone but features that people really want always end up on the notes the notes of the 10 that all the phones to be usually yeah yeah yeah I just I don't know I kind of thought I was thinking they might do the same thing with the note line just because I feel like if they don't there's going to be an inconsistency in design like there's you have this phone that's unibody and then you have this phone that's not unibody group revocable back SD card slot whatever I just feel like it's it's not you know cuz like usually OEM is like to make their design consistent across all devices and I feel like they're gonna lose that consistency if they if they don't do that with the nose such a huge company with so many limes though at this point you know cuz after after this came out and then people were like Lester had a lackluster response to the s5 office of the Alpha came out yeah they really saturated freaking out the exact mass defection has occurred which exam sound odd SCA which is you know for those that don't know they have the primary brain trust in the states in Texas like a lot of companies you know I'm you're walking were there ZTE are there a lot of arm operations are there and you know they moved everyone up to New Jersey but kind of the gossip from the sparkle industry is that they sent over the whole executive team to do an audit on samsung in the States because they were unsure why things were going so successfully and they credited you know the success of the galaxy franchise due to the efforts of the US team and so there was a lot of mistrust and you know a lot of kind of thumb you know Harvard Business Journal's and others who you know they deal with operational an organizational behavior they study kind of Korean companies and its really tough to work for Korean company they're only kind of promote creams and this kind of that a little bit of xenophobic I wouldn't say racism but like kind of distrust you know and so but a lot of good people you know who work in this industry obviously worked for Samson but there's been a lot of change yeah you know that we've seen in terms of people moving to different companies and like when we were in China remember Josh from Walley yeah exactly saw that he was a veteran designer that's all for so well yes IM since my that's my voice Christ that was the first time I ever ever ever like witnessed at first hand was that like I guess I don't want to say defection yeah is the negative cost Robert you're like leaving the matter me know maybe you're a traitor well I mean I'm sure the people at the original company view it that way maybe yeah but to see someone see the shuffling of people from one place to the other and it's kind of odd to see people want to be happy no they want to being able to grow and I mean let's look at the rise and fall of giants like Nokia and we're like blackberry you know you're only argue argue people gonna argue I bet Nokia's not really like falling I suppose it's done they're just microsoft they're like micro nokia saw yeah Michael kia nice to have a two-door car so the yeah it's interesting to see that but you know somehow they've they've nailed the design I'm talking about the s6 we'll get to that later obviously but so the edge really is your favorite one yeah I like that it's a little bit different it's not you know how but how useful is it really gonna be to you I don't I don't I don't think it'd be useful at all there you go i just i just like the curved edges cuz it makes the swiping really seamless and it just it's a different design like you know every every foam basically all looks the same but I don't know the edge kind of adds a little bit of flair to it and I don't know I kind of like it as a design aesthetic is the people he's spoken the demand is higher for in terms of you two beautifully scientific the people want the people are curious is where do you member the note edge first impressions you did they had 1.8 million in like a month yeah a vastly exceeded yeah i mean because biggest worry it's okay just just point this out there no on that this isn't a race between me and lon it's a rihanna this is no racism okay to that point we're neck and neck i'm just saying but the curiosity I can go ms guarantee you that the number of people who looked at the edge videos did not buy the edge yeah yeah that didn't repeal them right exactly and while it may be different for this s6 edge which is the worst name because it's hard to say without yes I do that success yeah um thanks mister it's it's um they're gonna be more people who buy it but you know it's are still a lot of curiosity behind it and i agree with you they nailed the edges yeah that's obvious they nailed the two sides in terms of making it a AAA an attractive device that still doesn't feel like a weird thing to hold yet but no edge was that was just weird but I I would rather I say this all the time I would rather pay for the features i'm going to use rather than the features i want and that's why I up until this point I have never actually bought a samsung phone I've never actually thought I would but the yet but for me the s6 I'd buy that thing man yeah I mean I I haven't bought a samsung phone since the s2 because I loved s2 and I I still think that the st was Sam Sam one of Samsung's biggest phones neo this day and you know every the s3 s4 s5 lost my attention and yeah with the s6 and s6 edge that's how they see over there right yeah they've pulled me back in and I'm interested now so I don't know like I just like I just think the s6 edge is just a more unique product and that's that's kind of what i want i want something a little bit different i don't want something that feels the same it's such a funny conversation to have just to say all those edges look so cool now like what do they do in your life who cares yeah reassures me all right you watch the orange thing go yeah you audio you watch the older the the LED import tuner car thing is on the bottom and the thing that you know like I kind of like it you know I I don't think Samsung would have done this essex edge if they didn't think it was going to succeed yeah because the no he explained the note edge I was just yeah the no image was definitely an experiment okay but I think if the note edge didn't do all that well they wouldn't have done an s6 edge so I think I saw my curiosity in the iterator okay yeah evolution not revolution yeah that's a good way buddy like I like that yet I could have been saving that for a lot about a plane right over like a week ago grandma haikus man but I will do something that I came thinking about the edge is that it's just gonna become a ticker a ticker tape yeah it's gonna become a ticker tape measures for advertisements yeah and I'm saying I really did get a subsidized phone man that's that yeah I mean look at Google right i mean people i'm insane tea with people use internet like if something's free you're the product yeah and always says nothing to do with hardware but you know you look at models like johnny and stuff like that you know they're not making any money so 45 billion dollar company same with one plus they're making know they're making like five six dollars per unit you know which is nothing it's not enough to sustain your business so they were talking last night at the dinner with swiftkey that you know they were very content you know invited for lovely dinner they were talking about the keyboard and there are the most successful keyboard that's never paid for installs or anything and they're used by millions if not hundreds of millions of people on a daily basis but one place made the decision to push up swiftkey on an OTA and it earned the ire of like the most evangelist users to like why you forced me to use a particular keyboard and i don't know if there's so it replaces of it it is a soft keyboard yeah yeah they've made a built-in yeah um and it would I you know it's just software and information in people like it's kind of it's a gray area you know like the legal frameworks aren't there yet and you know there's a lot of you know like you go to a website there's like for some of the more advanced websites that crunch or anything for mail box like they have 50 60 trackers on women they sell that data back so hardware companies you know as things become further commodified are gonna have to do things like this you know with data and it's a gray area yeah anyway but does mean what what it does yeah but wouldn't the yeah but doesn't that make sense then that the edge one day might just become a place of advertiser yeah man that's where that's do think when you turn on a game oh god this is a nightmare scenario you turn on a game and while you're playing it because the edges away from your face it da a perpetual ad you know that you can hit X on but then I'll keep appearing there in the ticker tape that's what I keep thinking yeah so it's terrifying you know there's already there's already a case that makes me not believe in the edge and that's when you're trying to use the camera now I got a lot of shade for saying that the ergonomic some bait no annual ripped apart I really but I don't like it there I don't I really really don't you can change the controls yeah that's Curt isn't it than the edge it might be yeah it's a lot more pronounced I mean you have it over here somewhere but um yeah I don't know dad's nothing I you know if you're playing a game or something like is it going they told me that the paddles the exact same size they just flex the panel I like 800 degrees to go like that yeah yeah but I don't think it will change operation no I won't change operation that's just gonna be one of the annoying bits are ya premium a space to me yeah that's exactly what did that's what I'm expecting the horse thing onto a charge man you know there have such a backlash time sings the most high profile my back I guess although I guess I'm a little cynical because I've seen a lot of places like just all of a sudden like this this ad in my face and but I'm from ergonomical standpoint I guess the only place that I won't be really skeptical about as the camera but I didn't get to look at the camera on the s6 edge it wasn't on the edge yet no no the UI was exactly the same as it was on that oh thanks also the camera shutter button is still right in middle screen oh thank god I wish I should have asked you that before because you're the one that did the end yeah i'm sure i've actually have a fire I remember it clearly cuz i was playing around it a lot yeah exactly he did not color comparison yeah i did i did on the s-sex but yeah so you saw you you you think that they would so aside from just it being different you everything that it offers you what you would use on the daily and you would pay for that on a daily I mean I don't know if I'm gonna use you know the people edge or that little ticker on the daily but i don't know i might have to see until I when I actually have like one and i use it for a while mmm it's kind of hard to say now but I don't let people edge might be useful especially for you know anybody talked to a lot so yeah but i don't know i usually I'm pretty old school and I just search and contacts app or something let's try it's gonna take some getting used to because any of these new features like you sort of have to force yourself to want to use them before you can even figure out if they're useful because if you don't ever try to use them you're just gonna be like um there's whatever like yeah they're not bad people edge at all it's so cool i could just like whoop and then someone's calling me i see the light blah blah blah but then you realize that no one calls me is the voice calls him not really very rarely yeah I mean even still there's text messages and stuff there too well yeah um there's the one thing I that that i noticed that i don't think anybody's really talked about and I kind of saw this one we were filming some extra footage for you know something i would sat with the samsung seasonal workers just breathing down our necks so happy like but the cool thing is that I sort of saw with because you get that one tab to slide over for the people edge or you know the ticker how about if you li the more tabs show up if like you get a because you might be have the five people and each tab will show up depending on the person so like if the first person at the top of your list shows up you'll get a tab right there and if so like you have a missed call or text message from them that tab will show up you just slide over and just go right to the message or call them right from there instead of pulling down the notification shade and tapping that's really I like that so initial tabs will shut up which is which I thought was kind of cool why can't it just be a notification center then you know I don't know I do not be pretty cool I think that's our Samsung's way of forcing you to use the edge more by having your missed calls and texts from your five favorite people show up on the edge yeah also it kind of forces you to use it that's not bad at all I said this I don't think it's a bad thing it's just something I wouldn't use and that's my that's my point but you know this money will go ahead of Darcy here and I already noticed that he have so much business talk to put out there were the consumer guys and you know so much about the inner workings of the industry you know and passion becomes an obsession and becomes you know the means through which one looks life you know yeah if my livelihood our livelihoods are on the line but it's not that extreme anymore because you know we're very grateful I have a big audience and all that but it's just a matter of producing really consistently excellent product yeah automation product for people so they can make you know objective decisions and it all sounds like BS but I mean the competition is fierce you know the tech space like I was doing to even Business Insider they're producing a spin-off tech specific publication that's going to launch in a few months now the interest Wars technology is growing technology is addictive it's redefining disintermediated and disrupting so many verticals financial sectors can disappear legal professions medical and we look at the oculus rift to look at the HTC vive 55 sorry I've become an art print but what I'm trying to say is c'est la Viva no that's gonna have jobs in the future so be like a robot yeah just a robot doing that right there uh yeah I had conversations with people about that like what if what if whatever what if a machine is able to do our jobs cuz we have such create a job I wouldn't even want to have like a terminator hand Alexi 1000s verifier how are you so terrified I just think it's really interesting this is this is a refreshing change of pace from like the consumer driven talk so we always have on the podcast so like given given that you know cuz we did interviews I I filmed you interviewing arm and imagine you know you have talked with the number a number of companies here about what I don't wants a little but like what enhancements they're bringing to the fundamentals of the smartphone world in a computing world in general um so with that mind what's what's your mwc pic what's your favorite thing here I mean I'm obviously gonna have to say the galaxy s6 line but in particular it's not even the line itself is just the hardware that they put in there like Samsung is a massive company probably the one of the largest world technology companies in the world and they just have so much incredible research and development you know most companies like they spend six seven eight percent research and development but Samsung is like probably like 12 13 14 yeah and I mean they produce SDC's for Apple they rise this mark displays for Apple the same as LG yeah I mean they have they produced the largest container ships in the world their whole heavy-duty equipment division line is massive I mean there's not really vertical that they don't touch except for like financial services and entertainment and they're trying to get their milk video stuff off the line but you know they're struggling quite a bit because it's hard to create an ecosystem but yeah I mean just that X you notice SOC man I mean yeah they're gonna use qualcomm videos for the states yeah but i mean that's a massive reduction going from 20 nanometer 40 nanometer that lowers the power footprint by third worse and with the same processing but what explains why Samsung was able to achieve a 40 nanometer we have a company like Qualcomm's we're doing this for so long hmm and they haven't they they've been they're not the ones who have that buzz word now I mean so the reason I like talk to our man in a nation you know nobody really cares about them you know in terms of consumers is that they create the intellectual property that companies license out and Qualcomm is a obviously the leading partner of our they pay a lot of money to be able to get early access to those reference designs to produce their Snapdragon series yeah the soda zexion listen sort of Samsung it's the thing that differentiates Qualcomm and Samsung is that Samsung actually has their own boundaries holcomb doesn't it wasn't just producers like designs yeah and just like an autocad that they like email they're like hey yo can you print this man you know the bill comes to psych they'll be 14 billion dollars but I don't like a billion dollars yeah but um yeah so I mean ddr4 and you know the display 600 nits you know the sub down my pics for matron for that amyloid like you know 570 ppi that's the highest or 577 anything five types of highest in the industry it's a bit ridiculous but we know when I look at the margin of error you could say 575 and still be right you know I don't know I saw pixels when I tried the new I don't you could see them when we tried the new gear VR I could see the pickle yeah I get I guess I guess I could say that I solved two but I mean the screens like two inches from your face I could see this is what being blown up to you yeah giant 3d world so it's yeah and of course you're gonna see something but I look good in me though it was my first time yeah I use the galaxy s6 for that too yeah they do no yeah we really immersing I mean obviously pr's can be absolutely massive and it's gonna ruin people in terms of you know social behaviors so for so for you so for you I mean I give the yard updated too yeah take the s-sex obviously that's great yeah but yeah but for you it's the s6 line in terms of what puts it together he's the unsung heroes yeah you know which of the eggheads and the Nerds you know who are the geniuses you know the research that comes from universities that eventually translates into the experiences that were all very fortunate to have but I mean there's so many industry-first packed into one device as all unbeautiful form factor that shows Samsung finally listened to consumers yeah and like they've been slapped around by the back end of God which is you know angry consumers who will expect you something better and a corollary note that I think is really interesting having studied like the analytic symmetrix which we have to you know so that we can continue to keep the lights on um is that year after year I continue to see less demand for this information you know and we have command like a very fortunate ranking position on youtube and you know I study everything but like we know the note for launch like those videos they have beyond a million in very short period of time I can't say exactly but I remember for the s5 like it all I'm trying to say is that there's just a little bit less demand every year it's probably ten fifty percent but it compounds over time you know and it peaks with the s3 and now it's just yeah it's just burning down but it's still huge you know but I just think consumers like the experiences are also good you know that they don't necessarily and all that but like what 1 plus did with disrupting you know how people perceive they can get a great device for a sub 2 novella price point ya know so manufacturers aren't a lot of pressure you know to differentiate themselves and I kind of feel bad for a she seeing Elaine a lot of cut you know tech media talking about how HTC standard was completely stolen by Samsung oh I wouldn't move see that's where that's where I come in because I would actually think that while not necessarily in the mobile space HTC found a way to to bring back all of the talk to them because in soon yes how's that because of the live oh yeah absolutely yeah good plan so HTC they brought out the one m9 which I spent a lot of time with them the analyses and it's an inner it's an inner it's a incremental iteration obviously well much like a lot of these phones are which is why the galaxy s6 got such play because it actually felt very different from what we're used to or let's just say expected from from Samsung you know that's that's the sort of great way to put it um but with hcc they came out with a wearable and like it was it was it's it's a band as a fitness band you know in a lot of ways it's not really something that the masses are going to flock to because it requires a very specific person who needs something like that come with exercises probably you know someone who just wants to know how many steps that they oh yeah but you know their partnership would under armour is what's most interesting button and then they the one that the one m9 is again incremental but went in the right direction we have to reserve our camera opinions until the software's yeah flashed out heroin same thing yeah and but otherwise it's it's a good it's the phone that a lot of people if you've already liked HTC in the past and you're like oh yeah I love the m 98 I do you like HTC I love HTC I love I have a lot of memories with HTC's but that way and yes you're right being able to market properly is something that they haven't always hit the mark they almost have never hit the market this in this most recent like string of flagship smartphones obviously but what did what I give a sh you see a lot of credit for and if I have to put it out this way I give HTC my pick of the show because um by branching out yeah not necessarily putting all their eggs and just smartphone that so how did we not give the be it's not Android but that's all you see there's no access see that's enough see that's the kicker yeah we what is it running it's not you know it's running off a pc oh yeah turning off a pc so it's a standalone virtual reality system see that's the thing that's what makes see HTC made it happen we tell you that it's not even about Android but we're talking about them so much now hmm because of the vibe yeah but the price point you're done with 23 kindness well I mean that's not that's not that's like that speculation that speculation there's there's no no one has said that there's no price know what so that's just from you yeah that's just what we were saying on the livestream like you know it's probably gonna be something like that like the overhead costs for everything it's probably going to be very high and sasha was one who said 23 grand or something like that ok yeah I don't think Soviet maybe with the pc yeah yeah oh yeah that's true yeah oh yeah that might be a little that spc I'm sure they'll have some nvidia its steam right yep steam see also steaming in beta how that connection yeah it's got a piggyback off of a system you already have but that's my point is that we're talking so much about it and everyone who has tried this thing including myself hmm or blown away yeah absolutely are does that to you you know Ben I know this is taking br2 enough you know everybody sing like that they're way ahead oculus because they have that you know verticality they have all the java sensors and lasers to be able to detect the sides of your room yeah but I always noticed like I remember seeing prl al q lessly had demos to see us where people actually had to move you know they were on like one of those stations where the ground moves as you all know yeah but it's like a 3d you look at how ridiculous start running and then they're like I'm running yeah no no crap you're running like you are physically running right now we write like I mean that was exhausting yeah I want to sit down get back just something I want to move so how do you how do you feel of your blog see this is the thing like yes it's me reunion we do that g3 thing we have that plastic oh sure it happened on oh sure but it's interestingly Gordon this is not an Android iteration in terms of the five but it's something that we have to talk about because HTC is at the helm and that's something we know that we never really expect me they can be at the helm but like you know whether or not it actually turns into a legitimate product that people buy it's a different question I really think but the thing is I have the ecosystem of steam would almost up there was the hard part I mean like Asus used to make dell computers under the pegatron brand and they learn from that woody em expertise in the late 80s and early 90s that they can make really good computers too and they could cut out yeah and then del star used somebody else in garage that suits right yeah I oh say there's nothing more there's nothing more of that HTC can do but benefit from what might be a breakthrough product yes I you know they could shop it around too and they could lower the price the hardware and they can use other partners to that can make it yeah how do you feel like viola I mean I think I I hope it I hope it takes off like it actually becomes like a thing work because it's really awesome technology but um i don't know i think for consumers to really want to hone in on it like its gonna have to get smaller like I think I'm everything is still a little bit too big and a little bit too clunky looking and then like like when we're playing with like the gear VR like I just don't understand like why the straps have to be like you have to have one of the top I didn't wanna go right here and like my biggest complaint was that's not hair compatible yes I cumin I just want the backstrap I don't need this whole weekend ahead you're gonna get out you're gonna need to have like a reverse mohawk just not yet just to have space for the shade in the middle I think if exec can get it down to like the size of like ski goggles or something yeah I think people would be like context just so much going on though that's the point yeah that's true the five is humongous the reason why is because it's communicating with all those lasers that are basically shooting through your body and give you a radiation I'm just kidding but but yeah everyone I've wish that you had a chance to try it but they're they're scheduling for their demos was so yes was so concise and packed and then it condemns thank you yeah that you know it was really tough like the guy who's doing the demo is in there saying the same thing every half hour that's basically how a war ii was looking old yeah so you know and God bless them for going through all of that but the thing is you could tell that they're really they're really excited to see how people react to something like that Nestor he's going to give them so much credit is because this partnership has now revitalized the people who work at HTC yeah you know not to say that they were deflated at before but it just seems like there's this great energy from them because of this particular product and if it if it realises their entire company more power to them absolutely yeah i'll buy rebuy leave ah I see I mean it definitely looks like they have a good product on their hands because I mean I obviously haven't tried it but everything that I've seen on it like all the videos and all the posts appealed and writing about it it's nothing but positive can I can I tell you how all about it can I tell you yeah oh my god okay so you get into this like sterile room and there's something but like a chair in the middle and the chairs just there for a reference point and they take the chair away once you put it on so that you know you're just in the room but what happens is there are two laser sensors on opposite sides of the room or somewhere adjacent one at times there have to be perfectly opposite but just enough to sort of bear down and create the space that you will that that will communicate with the five and then you then you give in to controllers which will be Wireless in the final iteration but these two controllers are the way that you interact with the world and it began when you put it on they put these headphones on you and you're just the world is gone like the real world is no longer a thing once you put it on you are no longer where you are and this world came up it was a white just this white background and you you solve the room like what was once a sterile like beige room became this steam-powered place with hexagons going in and out of the floor and all this and it said and now granted actually it's funny you mentioned the whole GDC thing earlier noisy yeah the presentation title said GDC demo oh really yeah so did they have it at GDC too yeah they had a GDC I mean you know what the fact that it wasn't even leaked you know yeah that's pretty impressive cuz they she see us a lot of problems with leaks you know I mean the honest you know they weren't really considered to be a tier 1 purchaser of a lot of these technologies but I think yeah you totally righteous about the branding about the awareness to the words the company yeah and so okay yeah so yeah that came up was a GCC demo one and then the text is run is floating in the air like to show you you stay tell you the guy the guys actually talking to you through the headphones and it says walk forward two steps you see that grid there's this mesh grid that appeared on your face and says that is the boundary don't i don't know you touch it play what would mean you can move your hand for it and yes the the the VR will will know where the controllers are so you basically know where your hands are in the space so what's like what are the units like it is the directional like wiimotes okay yeah we look like about the million of like the kind of like we have buttons or trigger on it or trigger yeah thumb button and the grips have you can you can hit the the sides of the grapes so okay okay I like joysticks in a way like they're joystick but there but they're not made for moving because you're the one moving around up and down all around yeah and you're little and it moves everywhere you go ends really would expect fluid as heck and it's because the processing from that that pc yeah the one that's doing here can you see the edges of the display no so you're just completely nude yeah the world is young you've tried oculus yeah I have for like a minute cuz i actually got a little nauseous off of it but this didn't make you know no it did help comes I don't know why maybe I was in a better place is super yeah maybe oh yeah yeah that's the whole sir I mean what was the resolution like was a super sharp and no I wasn't it was it definitely wasn't a super sharp display but the latency was like like zero completely zero and all the movements when when you moved your hands forward and the controllers were being recognized by the display you could see yourself you can see you can see the these floating controllers in virtual space and that was how you're going to interact with the world so that mess your hand no use your hands you just see the controllers but in space based upon where your hands on it so it attracts the controller it tracks everything for me how many different types of worlds like so then yes like six worlds right so a 65 but anyway the first world was they said this these are the boundaries so feel free to walk around here for a little bit and notice when the mesh comes up and you'll know that you should be going past a certain point so and you'll know in these worlds that you can't go past a certain point because obviously we're going to create that boundary for it was like okay that's cool so we he said ok here we go into the first world and it was an underwater in like deep-sea shipwreck and you're walking on the deck of this bro of this like ship wrecked boat and all these fish they're floating around you and if you hit the trigger button on on the controllers and move your hands around you actually like you know shoe the fish away and then you're looking at what's on the ship and you're noticing those things and they go out turn around you turn around this big way all right and it's right in your face like you could you feel I could you feel like you could touch it you literally do the next world after that was a cooking thing and it gave you instructions I cooking mama almost and you were in a kitchen and they're all these ingredients on the table and you could and when the controller the controller recognized ations regular controllers being recognized were turned into hands up and the triggers when you not picking things up yeah and he created a soup you chopped up stuff I picked up a plane I threw it at the wall and it was bloody boy it was really fun they said yeah just go nuts in the in the in the kitchen and after that was this is probably the one that was really great for a lot of people to realize what the utility of VR is was it was it was it was a grid like a like a square and you could move around was like a black room and it was light art so your controllers became light heart you had on the left he had on the Left controller the ability to rotate your wrist and see three different swatches to change what brush you were using or one color and one is what kind of was in your right hand was the brush and the wishes weight and it was it was one to one it was incredible now you when you're looking at your left wrist and they're like okay I want that color blue and then these these these virtual reality grins are just kind of rotating around your wrist and you're just picking things and then then the one that everyone just were blue a blown away from by brother the final demo was you being a repairman for a portal robot from an average are you in Portal to portal world yeah and it looked just like you could tell us if valve created just for this and the the you're trying to repair a robot but you know you're doomed to fail because you don't know what to do to repair it and and then the wall caves in and GLaDOS the the enemy from from Portal yeah comes in and when he went when she came in that that robot it's huge yeah I was terrified real I was immersed in this world and seeing GLaDOS in front see actually talking to me and and and telling me that she's gonna kill me basically yeah oh my god I was terrified see they said at the beginning of the demo if you feel nauseous or if you feel like you don't really you know feel comfortable anymore close your eyes and let us know and we will take off the unit but what was what was crazy about it was that wasn't the problem the problem was I actually lost myself in this world and when I felt terrified it was because of what was happening hey um except Florida gives out under you and only your panel is open so you look over down to what could be your death and you literally feel like that's what's happening I don't really what about like moving upwards and downwards yes there it in crouch and you can see things you could pick up stuff off the floor I mean like let's say you're in like the scenario where you have water can you go down into the water well it'sit's or is that something they have in the future that's something they might have in the future but obviously it has to do with your movement so you know you're not necessarily going to be jumping past the plane of the floor yeah I guess that makes sense so you feel as water you be Jesus you'd be walking but yeah you know there were times when I would be able to go underneath a virtual table hmm and find something underneath the table and then be able to pick it up it was just incredible and everyone is talking about it I was so skeptical about VR and and and all that and all of a sudden now I'm a believer but this iteration of it where the world is you're always stirred literally not literally but for consumers though I mean you talk even if it is a thousand bucks like it just gonna be a lot cheaper for people to use their smartphone you know and oculus and those guys they're saying that Samsung has been an awesome partner you know they got the financing Facebook and everything I don't necessarily think this should be vaporware but I also wanted to like is it within our bound that we could come from here I mean we're android authority sure but like obviously the future of entertainment and of interaction with technology is not necessarily smart phones you know so you don't I would even ask the audience like would you like us to cover VR like is that okay and I'm sure the answer is going to be yes I know when we have it we have an in though because it's it's the phone companies that are making this yeah I just you know I think that you know there's already left 1.2 1.3 billion android phones there will be more you know in the future it just seems like a easier path to entry for a lot of people if they have a great phone that they can get a plastic google cardboard device you know like Google's really gonna develop the ecosystems and thinking laterally and enabling partners right mmm um that's not to say like I mean doctors guys remember like they're saying like it'll be like an AK display maybe a 16g to school in the future you know pc hardware have they have bet they want us to go into mental part to see their AK they have an AK panel and it's just supposed to be insane yeah it's connected some really badass hardware probably for GPU is running like really advanced humming yeah you know but I don't know you know I mean like I you know I totally agree and I like I said before I we have an in because you know it is the phone companies manufacturers that are working on all this stuff and that's great you know that gives us the ability to say let's see what I'm still working on you know and that's that's why I like this like you know imagination and arm and stuff because you know they have a low-power you know they were working really hard like either demos we sought imagination that we're running I mean it looks super good you know I just don't know that's just where I come from oh sure into your point about like smartphones being the entry point of VR they all have their segments in the category but this is that this is definitely something that's farm beyond such as the premiums like a prism cytopenias de laser-guided lab exchange with you you know whatever worry where would you rank the five in terms of other VR headsets like oculus and Morpheus well the thing is oculus Morpheus gear even gear VR and you know they already have k scenarios they're already here it remains to be seen what the main case scenarios are going to be for an entertainment system that is essentially going to be relegated to a corner of your living room that you get to walk around you know it's different it's I'm viewing I'm viewing the HTC vive as an extension to this to the future steam console that's what I'm doing it as because it's going to be about entertainment that's what agency called it is this is connected entertainment that's what they called it and you know I well given that steam has steam is has so much steam they have so much content that if it gets converted over to this platform it's gonna be baying Buster's man it's just gonna be so great and gang busters women and bang bus i'm just gonna say thank i want some bangbus gear VR oh my god would you know what something I was talking to some down the rabbit hole it's a show as you're talking about what if what if stuff like porn was was the future see this video I always always push the industry for one push cable modems you know important push VHS to DVD mm you know porn was the first stood up for Cain 3d porn is gonna be huge on PR and it kind of sounds weird but like you know but it's true there's two things people like to do is you know uh-huh communicate and copulate yeah and you know that those are just too fun my designers and often though they to work in tandem you need to keep me k before you can calculate what's great design that wasn't even really that means look I can do this motion for you most greater than all of that was great is that all of that is still relevant it wasn't a tangent but it's cuz it's still relevant to what we're talking about i can't wait to get some PR point i'm not for real man or even like you know like a chola road all the time you know and i'd like to be able to connect with my loved one then well that's that's that's a case scenario that might like communication using a VR thing you know for whether or not it's for that kind of purpose you know that's not something that we've seen yet you know to be able to actually see someone in the mead space in a virtual space and you know it's a it's crazy i don't know what's going to happen well you know you're going to have to relegate an actual section of your room in order to have this thing and I'm perfectly fine with that because it's basically the space in front of your game console mm-hmm you know and I think that's actually okay but this is the point that I put out on the live stream and I felt so proud of myself i said this mean there's a reason why we haven't seen half life 3 in a long time it is because this is the way they want namely that's gonna be bad asses the way but i would argus is obvi so you know people will want to be sitting down you know because you can't really see so it's a little bit terrifying they were just trying to show proof of concept it's amazing but you know the next generation of families that are you know you're going to be getting together and looking for entertain at home you know 15 10 years from now people will strap these things on but they'll want to be connected to see each other when they look at them yeah and they're going to be able to like download an experience you know where they are you know I don't know parasailing you know over Australia or whatever and you know if you can if you can let go of the real world you the sensations of the real world and be in that world that is in the vibe let's say yeah that's perfectly possible i imagine having that imagine having a larger grid of lasers and you have like four people in one place and of course since they're being tracked also you will be able to see that in the world yeah people want to be connected by this van I wonder what the social implications you know like children these days you know they don't really have the comportment you know face-to-face communications that a lot of anxiety and social problems that are created through technology but I would hope that we can kind of bring it back even though it's an amazing experience and it's so immersive we still need to be doing it together true and i will i will say this also i am also i am a little bit worried that the world that is created in something like the vibe is so amazing that you know like we don't have to talk about this at length I just want to put this idea out there that maybe it's because I don't want a childhood but I want to say like in general depression becomes a big thing because you just want to be there rather than where you are and you know that you know this the whole social aspect does get a disconnect if you are doing it singularly on yeah so I do it I do imagine that like dude can you if the water I michael fisher over park now he was saying that when he took that thing off he didn't want to because he wanted to be there yeah yeah I could talk wait to get addicted yeah do you think you would ever get get to though oh yeah Hammett I mean I think it could cuz I mean it's like you know even like a video game can kind of make you like that sometimes no saber like yeah the sims is so they're even just like games like Call of Duty cuz like you'll see people like put like tweets out or facebook statuses saying don't talk to me I'll be gone for the next three months like Call of Duty or whatever it's like I think VR could totally do that too so it's just a much more profound way it's almost like a drink people might lose themselves I don't even know what's like reality anymore it's gonna be lessened it'll be like me inception or something where like yeah they don't know the difference between the real world and what's with reopen Speights an incredibly real fear like I i hadn't i had an expression until just now but that thought came to mind like a mansion like your grandma right there's someone who like my grandma can acquire got her computer and i set facebook up in this on her like countertop in the kitchen so i created a profile everyone can interact with her but she just doesn't use it but imagine putting vr onto a person from previous generations even our parents right they would just be I didn't know what they would react like probably probably think it's just like magic you know true man it's it will have an equal amount of wow and an equal amount of danger this is terrifying yeah as too much um the the the gentleman who was performing the demo for me he told me afterwards that you know he was actually proud of me because he said like you really get it like you do get it like you you already started so there was this really funny thing when I first when I first put it on you press a button on the right controller and this balloon all of a sudden like inflates and her peers and nurses slowly float up and he goes you can actually touch the balloon and so I put the other controller in my head and my real hand I tried to swat at the air to see if I can hit the balloon after stupid but but then all we have sure you know and but then once I remembered oh I'm in a virtual world I hit it with the controller yeah any here uh-huh and it goes out oh sure oh man I'm gonna be ice on that is so he said you know he said people get it Fiedler's through people who get it and then there are people who have this disconnect because yeah they just kind of they want they let the virtual world watch over them rather than becoming a part of it hmm so they're standing in one place not really realizing that they could walk around actually see things actually experience the world but yeah that was just you know we ended I ended up talking about the vibe again I've been talking about all day ever since we made it up in the fira this morning on like 10 days or something like that no there wasn't like any sort of audio with it right the headphones okay it wasn't immersive I did not I did not know Admiral enough I no longer I don't know I I did not know that I was in that room anymore was it binaural or was it like just regular stereo audio like how it is that's all my question I didn't I don't know but it definitely had a lot of depth to it so I could hear things that were happening like uh to the back right of my head you know I hear something coming and it was it was incredible it was absolutely incredible I would have to give it's a little bit controversial for me to give a topic to an on Android device usually so I will give it to the company that's making it they have brought back the talk today I mean you know but oculus and all those guys you know they laid the foundation for this and I mean they're to be credited yeah yeah and I'm frankly like I think that oculus has a better go to market strategy especially with Facebook's on them macc does no you find total moon shoot for them but like I want to saying earlier all the people who play steam which is close to a billion people a half of which are active every single day yeah they they're gonna be the first ones to buy it and that's a lot of my he will have sold so much already they put put put have 53 is a launch game oh you're done you are done but yeah you wanna say like yeah I was just gonna say like if vr really does take off within the next you know 10 years or so which will get like you know within that time frame will get the next gen consoles like if it does take off we could see these you know even consoles having like it like a VR headset bundled in with those consoles he would be just insane I think Morris think it was the Gameboy fast but it was the one that had for trouble yeah the monochromatic red yeah that one I was like nine I got so cross-eyed I rented it you know me back when you could rant video game consoles yeah and I couldn't deck and deal with it but this is on obviously doctors that was like 40 years ago but think about where we've come in all this time that's that's crazy then shows like this and this reason why I have I am so over the moon about this thing is because for the first time in a while for the first time since I first started working here at a I was actually really excited about something at a show and I think that's there for people like us it takes a lot for a solo right yeah cuz we're just so jaded and desensitized by everything I like these sensitize more than jaded because I can still be excited about a phone but it's not going to make me like it's not gonna change my demeanor it's not gonna change the way that I actually act but once I came out of that room Darcy saw me man i was like I was thinking I could going with you and he's like nope that's what I'm not yeah I thought you were coming in with me and then and then the gentleman has a one unit right yeah I can plus that whole experience you need to have come out of the room it was a small room yeah was you know like those little terrifying walking in like okay what am I about to get into here but I'm still excited about it I'm still react yeah sweet as you know people who are inundated with new technology you have to find reasons to be excited not necessarily just a hype stuff up but because you know we're just kind of at the Nexus you know the reception of the best-in-class technology for smartphones and tablets and all and you know when you see a game changer like this like it reinvigorates you know and it makes me want to revisit the gear VR and all that so you find the use cases for it see if it's really something that is a viable solution for a lot of what we hope will be the future you know maybe it's bad that I'm that my experience is mostly now with the vibe compared to others you know maybe I was gonna be yeah but but i do want to revisit it but bottom line there's a lot to be excited for it this show you know you had the s6 edge we talked about the m9 for a little bit s6 to me is still the the one that I would get over the edge and then we had the vibe and HTC finally pulling off something that we haven't seen them doing a little while and that's make buzz make a massive amount of noise oh yeah but ultimately but this was a good time oh hell yeah you want the best events I think dine alone Yeah right CS was like man even if it was pretty cool i give some love you I think gave us great I heard a whole bunch of oldies you know and by old examining like people who've been doing tech reporting for like 20 years they were like the gentleman ponytail I was overhearing and they were talking about how they believe there's going to be resurgence in interest towards computex in Taiwan yeah you know because that's where like all the technologies made you know tell us like the economic tiger of Asia man you got so many great companies including HTC name of the suisun Nvidia and other centers that's their segment that's what they are I mean the owner of Foxconn seventies and anyway my point is just like maybe it's worthwhile for us to go because these guys are on to the VR in a way that we don't even know so I'll dig deeper I mean maybe maybe you'll be seeing some coverage from us guys yeah in June that was pretty cool yeah if you don't like topless brother and I was like a bit small hahaha tell you what this is this is a great way for us to commemorate what's the end of our show you know and obviously there's more content to be put out but this is this is like our cap this is not cap rate there's one thing though that I think deserves mentioning which is look you know I always think it's in terms of you know people I always think it's interesting when you pay attention to what's not set and look what we didn't talk about no we didn't who didn't we talk about what products didn't we talk about Hey oh they're plenty yeah a lot was because the walking to be fair this is this is the format of this particular podcast is what was your favorite yeah so for that but I'm just saying you know that it's just an interesting thought point of course yeah and put these companies that we didn't talk about which we don't have to talk about because I'm not gonna tackle they are also in a position to be able to do really crazy stuff too and they are you think so honestly there are a lot of great things happening in the mid-range market and there are a lot of great things happening out of even companies I haven't told us that there one in particular sony Sony telling us that they didn't really want to do or there dialing it back a little bit on the mobile space you know it's not the big part of their but you know what they still came up with a pretty good-looking portfolio of things this year yeah great show good cydia how blonde you enjoyed yourself your boss oh yeah and how that I mean did we treat you right and some verses brother haha Darcy drove me like a slave hahaha you should see the scarfs inspector oh that's terrible 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