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like they were putting live you see at 2016 here we are with Fred tabula he's the CEO of seeker and today he's bringing us the granite phone so let's talk about privacy sure let's talk about the granite phone in the eve of the black phone hack so why did you create this product what is it intended for okay so let me just give you a little bit the history on that how that warning and idea that we had behind on that so we started with the platform's 2012 which we was an idea to create a message platform to exchange some sensitive documents then our first customer was the Brazilian government from Brazil well then to the Minister of Justice so in that moment we say okay great we have the platform on the PC initially and then but you have agents in the field so we need to start in creating the mobile point yeah so between 13 we started the ios and android version of the applications for deployment in the field and then we gained the ward with other countries in south america US europe and going forward but one of our customers say well we had a problem one of the device its have the communication cryptid have the conversation encrypted but the device has been hackett and someone has been inspired in the screen and the microphone of the phone laughs how you can prevent that so we started thinking that end of 13 how we're going to create something to protect that then we came the idea with a grenade phone that's the integration between software hardware in OS which we lock him down our solution together with a hardware which nobody can install and malware and virus why spider or anything so that's the way we bring the grenade OS to the phone plus the platform from secure for the communication together with a different hardware with the keys in a different place in which nobody have access to life so we're talking about encryption talk about privacy you know there's a lot of professionals you know I mean there's so much corporate and military espionage that's happening right now so what makes this phone so secure it's built on Android you let's talk about the level of encryption sure so we started the keys with 512 bytes for the exchange key but in turning for the platform in 4096 4096 bit encryption as I heard yes and the kiss is on the device itself so that means we in our platform where the communication it's flowing we don't have access to that because the user have the own key so if I was travelling through I mean my generation you know we're pretty angry we're angry because we have no expectation of privacy you know it's a revelation Edwards we live in a post Snowden society where it's you know there's automatic license plate recognition there's satellites that are tracking our gate or step yeah everything is known you know quantum computers can break like we were talking about before 2048-bit encryption in real time I mean SSL Certificates the whole thing is just crazy right right it's so imagine if you're a professional you're traveling you have sensitive documents and you're going in and out of airports and countries there's a lot of need for a device that's as secure as or you claim this to be that's pregnant so when can people get it and you know what kind of price points are we looking at and who is this intended for okay so we're starting shipping in December okay so we launched in Barcelona next year in Mojave there yeah so we start in shipping in December 15 it's $99 straight price the most of our customers government defends an enterprise like MLM companies are indie companies so we have a lot of different segments inside of times and yeah well it's and that's come with a two years license so a lot of people ask me okay what's that price point it's because come with the licenses for two years you also can use your PC to exchange information as well so we have customers that have the phone and customers that have only the software and now they're integrated so that's fantastic so if this is built on Android so you've made changes the hardware and you built an application layer or you know OS on top of Android that's more secure and we what we did we get the Android is the base but we change the bootloader they femur everything above and below and so we just used as right is a stack for the initialization but everything else it's made by us and the hardware some change to make sure we safe that key and everything on that that makes sense so what do you think about all this policy level stuff talking about making encryption illegal so you know as we starting talking the privacy is something that the people wanted back they wanted so you have the bad people and the good people so we created a product for the good people we are contributed with the government with the information that we have that some metadata so we don't have access to any information from the users but we don't want the bad guys using our product as well but we are intended to create a product for the whole people that are like you and me is carried with anybody I look in your conversation with your wife or your parents or when you're talking to company secrets and sorbetto all those are in the new product and stuff like that so we made the product for that so just in terms of you know you talk about secure and you built this platform right that's encrypted right so it's just all through the pipeline you know it's all in the cloud essentially so you able to achieve 4096 bit right so to the tactical point so we had our cloud which most of our customers are using but some government and defense are so sensitive of thing for makers they want to have on their own on personal tab and we permit that so we are is one of advantage that we have on the platform that can have the customer using on their own friends when you believe this is a superior alternative to the black phone oh yes yes so I believe black phone do a good job doing the protections on a circle soilless Oracle application plus some permission control but not enough to protect someone to spite the phone yeah so that's why we bring something that's locked down we not gonna allow any external application to be loaded because it's the only way that you can guarantee the security is it yeah I really think that there's a lot of desire for encrypted communications for privacy right you know and yeah it's it's really uh it's really really encouraging what you guys are doing in wish you all the best and thank you and because of that you for last year we starting also given for free yet such application the chat application so you can download right now on Android or iOS or PC the chat version for free just go to security concreted chat encrypted chat okay that's good encrypted call that's gonna be next she's coming he's got I mean you know people use WeChat and Skype everything they don't realize that all this data is being recorded you know I mean do you think that it's reasonable for any of us to expect any kind of privacy in the future or is it gonna be total Information Awareness for most people I think we deserve it you to have our privacy back that's something that also we are encouraging our customers and people to say I know the trends on that is difficult because of the government's trying to protect themselves and all of ya terrorists apart yeah but I believe the most of the people wants the privacy so we are more than that so I think that's why we serve kind of the privacy back to us I agree I agree it's we live in interesting times right you know but we all have to keep safe so I wish you all the best in 2016 thank you I appreciate it thank you for volley of secure here with the granite phone it starts to like be a reporting live from CES 2016