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What's inside the Xiaomi Surge S1 processor? - Gary explains

2017-07-10
hello I'm Gary Sims from Android or authority now we're all fairly used to new mobile processes being lost on a regular basis maybe a new processor from coal quorum a new processor from Samsung and that's pretty good and we like to look at them and see what improved see what direction mobile processing technology is taking but it's much rarer that we have a whole new company that starts making mobile processors and that's what we have with the shell research s1 early this year shall we launch a new stone the Xiaomi new 5c and rather than using a Qualcomm processor or a mediatek processor it uses shammies own processor the Serge s1 so the question before us today is is what's inside the Serge s1 well let me explain so if you think about it there are basically four main mobile processor makers in the world today you've got Qualcomm with a successful Snapdragon processors you've got media tech which take up a lot of the mid-range processors and are very successful in Asia and then Samsung make their own chips for its phones and while we make its own chips to Curie range for its phones now basically if you're not Samsung and you're not while way and you want to build a phone you have to go to basically call corn or to mediatek to get your mobile processor well that was the case also with Xiaomi all of the phones that shall we have made have been predominantly using Qualcomm chips occasionally they also use media tip chips but back in 2014 Charlie decides to start designing its own mobile processor so it didn't have to buy from Qualcomm it didn't have to buy from MediaTek it would use its own in-house technology so basically it what is it with an octa-core processor that uses eight cortex a53 cause now the court is a53 is one of the world's most popular 64-bit calls now when you find in an octa-core configuration what you basically have is four cores that are clocked to the higher frequency in this case at 2.2 gigahertz and then you have four cores that are clocked at a lower frequency in this case 1.4 gigahertz now call in SOC there's not just CPU core there's a whole bunch of other stuff and more importantly there is also a GPU and the GPU the graphics processing unit inside of the Serge s1 is the arm ret 860 MP for now the MP form part means it's a quad core it's got four shader cores inside of it which is actually very good for this mid-range target for example if you look at the p10 light while a p10 light which I reviewed recently that has the killing six five eight in it and that only has a 2-quart GPU setup inside of it and when shall we talked about the Serge s1 they mentioned in several of their slides that it uses a technology called a MBC arm frame buffer compression now what's quite interesting and it this little bit of a revelation to me when I found that a couple of years ago one of the most expensive things to do inside of a mobile processor in terms of the energy it uses is shuffling around data so if you think about it you've got a game running at 60 frames a second well 60 times a second a full HD frame needs to get passed from the GPU to the display driver maybe you're decoding a video like from usually needs to go from the video decoder often display driver for all this sending around these 60 frames a second full HD consumes a lot of battery power so arm come up with a system called the arm frame buffer compression which basically compresses the data internally inside of a chip so that when it's pushing this data from one place to another it's doing it in a compressed form which means there's less data to move and in fact it turns out that compressing it and then sending it is actually more efficient than just sending it full frame evenly you're spending time compressing that data now when you look at the block diagram that shall be presented at the launch of the Serge s1 it says very clearly the arm frame buffer compression technology is covering the GPU the video processor and the display process but I got thinking if it's supporting the arm frame buffer compression technology maybe they are Majerle components in there now there are lots of programs you can download from the Play Store that give you kind of system information it digs around deep inside of Android to kind of find out what are the different hardware components that exist inside of the phone now I downloading one of those aida64 is on I use I started to go through to see what we could finally yes there's the cortex a53 octa-core processor yes there's a Mali T 860 MP for GPU but if you then look in the section of that program at what codecs are being used that's the encoders decoders of video you find that it talks about the V 500 decoders now basically if this is using a Marley V 500 video process that it needs to have the relevant software drivers turn drivers from the windows era to power that hardware and that's exactly what it has so from this we can conclude the video decoder and the video encoder is actually the Molly V 500 so now we have the arm CPU we have the arm GPU and now we have the arm video decoder so it would make sense they also use a display processor arm now further digging around inside of a DES didn't reveal that technology but if you can actually use the Android debugging bridge and connect to the file system that on the smartphone you actually I start having a look around Alyssa he looked at a place called the flash proc filing system and it contains a little image of really interesting information when I was rooting around inside of there I was discovered that the display processor is in fact the Molly DP 550 so what that means for us as consumers is that we know that the software stack that's included in the surge s1 is actually optimized by arm themselves they don't think for a moment that means that shall we didn't do anything just kind of grab component and boom with no no building a mobile is way poor complicating that and there's a whole load of stuff in there that shall we did themselves but by using these technologies from people who are experts in these fields Xiaomi were able to bring it together easily and quickly and most important cost effectively so it could launch its own mobile processor so of course it I actually have the me 5c here I couldn't resist some benchmarking so let's see how Charlie's new process stacks up against the competition now to some three phones that are comparative with comparative mobile processors to the show me me 5c I've first of all tainted with the Huawei p10 right and that's got the killing 65 8 in it I've also had a look at the Oppo f1 plus which has got a mediatek processor in it and I'm also looking at the Huawei Nova which has a snapdragon 6 2 5 in it now they're all octa-core cortex a53 processors with Marley T 800 series processors in them except of course for the Qualcomm which is got the Adreno in it so let's start with the graphics benchmarking here we see for 3dmark sling shot extreme the Serge s1 is the clear winner with 681 while the other devices are down in the 400s and 300s if we look at GFX bench Manhattan we can see the Serge s1 has the highest frame rate 8.4 frames a second which is not very high of course compared to the flagship phones but this is a mid-range phone and it does much better than the queuing 65 8 the Snapdragon 62 5 and the mediatek p10 so we can see that having that four core GPU in there has made a big difference in terms of its graphics performance compared to the other processors now how does it stack up for just CPU related work well interesting that it didn't do as well as I expected so if we take antutu to start with it doesn't come in first place the first place actually goes to the Snapdragon 625 with a score of 60 4279 however it's not too far behind it is in third place with 60,000 hundred and twenty one and in fact when you go over to Geekbench single score you see the same story here repeated the quirian 65 eight and this take time takes the crown the Snapdragon 62 5 comes in second and the surges one does come in third only just beating the Helio p10 so on the CPU part of the surge s1 looks good on paper it hasn't necessarily translated through to the benchmarks however just one more redeeming benchmark if we look at Geekbench 4 for the multi-core test the Serge s1 does in fact come on top place with 3,000 379 the closest competitor being the keyring six five eight we 3310 and then after that you get the snapdragon six to five now the rumor is that shall me aren't just stopping with the surges one they working on the surge s2 but this won't be a follow-up to the surges one in terms of it we a mid-range process they're going to go for flagship in high-end processors and the room is going to have a quartic a seventy three core probably four point is a seventy three together with four cortex a53 it probably can have a Mali GPU again my guess would be maybe the model eg seventy one and if they also follow the same pattern it's going to have a modeling video decoder it probably the Mali be 550 and it's also going to have a money to spray process run it properly the Mali a DP 650 so person I'm really excited about this to see Xiaomi breaking into this high-end where people like Samsung Qualcomm and a while we have really dominated and actually showing there's still room for competition and for people to make new flagship processors so to wrap up then we basically know that the Xiaomi s1 is Shanley's first generation mobile processor they've gone for the mid-range with the octa-core err a cortex a53 it's got a Mali GPU in it which is very good in terms of it's got four cores it's also got a Mali video decoder sort of got a multi display processor and it's going to be really interesting to see whether the disruptive business nature of sharmee what they've done in Asia particularly whether that can be copied through carry through with their mobile processors and maybe in a couple of years time we're going to be talking not just about pork or mediatek Huawei and Samsung's but we're also going to looking around shammies processes and the impact they're having on the worldwide market I'm going to soon from Andhra thority and I hope you enjoyed this video if you did please do give it a thumbs up please don't forget to subscribe to annual authorities YouTube channel hit that Bell icon till you get a notification whenever release a new video please follow me on Twitter and last but not least do go over to and refresh calm because we are your source for Android
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