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AMD Ryzen 3000 16c specs LEAKED, RX 600 series, Nvidia SUED | Awesome Hardware #0187-A

2019-05-14
v6 how's it gonna run just saying hello just saying what's up salutations alright so welcome welcome welcome this is awesome hardware episode 187 side a you're watching right here on twitch.tv slash awesome hardware or my youtube channel youtube.com slash bit wit in about half an hour so we're gonna split you over to Paul's channel which is youtube.com slash Paul's hardware you can also find a link to that in my video description this is a live show that we do every single Tuesday here right here at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time thank you for joining us saw some people in Chad who are saying it's their first time catching the the stream live in real-time so welcome welcome it's good it's good to have you here it's a totally different experience when you get to witness the chaos live we like to occasionally have a drink or two on the stream so cheers to all of you for being here and only one real big announcement for today and that is Paul isn't that what daddy I'm a dad your father father Paul give it up father Paul thank you ooh Paw Paw Paw Paw Paw Paw Paw daddy daddy father fortunately this is just a fever dream so I know it's like it's still it's not all actually real mmm well you know I'm gonna enjoy it while it's here so yes I've adopts I have a daughter now you do you new daughter that's crazy she was just getting her her corn hole cleaned back there which is required with some regularity that's barely that's true something surprising to me that's that's how you know uh you love a thing very efficient babies it spread its cheeks processing food into into poop yeah so on a scale of one to ten how energized are you right now with with a newborn on your hands I'm jacked I'm super Jeff I'm psyched you've got six Red Bulls deep right now yeah totally I got off the cocaine I don't know how much sleep I've gotten in the past week it's it's a very small amount though sporadic it comes in spits and firts vomits birds and pits and farts Fitz Fitz and spurts I think this the Terramax is true that's a I think it spits and farts like not a completely wrong in measurements I realized as I was about to say that's like I don't have these words to say but I just I just plowed ahead you still okay you're still strong on you your improv game is still strong thank you yes okay well congratulations everyone congratulate thing I couldn't be happier mm-hmm you could be more rested though everyone wants to know her name um I have a video and we're gonna save it for that yeah watch the damn video you cheapskates yeah nothing in this world is for free it's not even gonna be out for like a couple more days so you guys will have to you guys can guess send send me guesses if you want or that's why that's why I gotta get on float plane like it's already a float plane just pay me that's one of my babies name pay up or there's money there is exchange for information there is a like a way that people could figure it out goods available but I don't they could bribe I doubt you're right I doubt anyone yeah you could bribe pal just fake how money there's another way yeah I don't want to give anything more than that but I could see somebody figuring it out right I mean it's 2019 based on information that's that's up she probably already has a Facebook account you know just in this day and age oh yeah can't you can't escape the internet the achieve even created for herself yeah they're tracking her it was automatically LoJack and everything all right well uh on that very joyous note I guess we can jump into the show right before we whore ourselves out a little bit yeah but wait tech is my store you can buy my brand-new screw with confidence shirt which has been flying off the shelves oh yeah sound like hotcakes we just restock some so they're fresh off the press 22 bucks a pop you know shipping can be a little pricey so I suggest buying many objects yeah by many fans way that way maximize the more you buy the more you save Paul also has this or Paul's heart net and captive thumbscrew shirt still still there still going strong captive thumbscrew also available in mug form takes on many shapes want to point that out yeah choose yours choose your form factor of preference a lot of other things on on both of our stories so I like the captive thumbscrew it very lovable lovable thumbs just bored and there what else yeah well bad for the guy alright but let's let's dive into some tech news here we've I've got three segments they're like men live near your yeah the thing you made oh yeah yeah I guess you could set that up while I ramble about tech news yeah because we're not getting there just yet but this is just a generic tech news I only have three articles in this little mini segment today they're just kind of bangers they're bangers the big headlines that were just across multiple sites bangers and mash starting with a.m. be announcing their next horizon gaming event at e3 I'm sure most you guys have already heard about this there's not much to go on here this this article in particular is from WCF tech but AMD did announce that they're gonna be hosting their own event at e3 on June 10th at 3:00 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time with a company accompanying livestream so if you can't be there in person you can always catch it online it's gonna be hosted by the game awards creator Geoff Keighley or Kylie I have no idea how to pronounce his last name I don't really care but Lisa sue will be presenting the majority of the presentation and revealing some juicy details about their upcoming plans for 2019 what exactly we can't say for sure but a lot of people are speculating that this is gonna be a soft launch for the the na'vi GPU did you say lisa sue lisa sue it's a nice name not her name yeah yeah yeah just say that's a nice name it is a nice name it's like a female name two syllables and then a middle name a single syllable yeah it's great it's great formula for a girl's name it's true all right so the Nabi Nabi GPU soft-launched is is very highly speculated here to be the the talking point the main talking point of the event why because we already kind of know that AMD is going to be talking about risin 3000 family you copy to copy it under here you know I might not have copied you out there I might have just handed you the thumb drive without ever oh I can put it on here so yeah this is pretty interesting because we already know the third gen rise and stuff is gonna be talked about and unveiled at Computex most likely which only leaves navi to be the the talking point of discussion for e3 and they looked pretty cool I hope they don't just announce the the newly leaked rx 600 series of GPUs which is likely to just be a rebrand or a refresh and some capacity that would not be very exciting if that was the big secret they were holding on to for III but we're gonna talk about the rx 600 series in more detail later on my half of the show so stick around for that so I'm guessing Navi that seems like the most logical thing if you're if you don't care about discrete GPUs in any sense and shame on you but AMD will also be covering a slew of other topics including next-gen console technology what their plans are for the next wave of PlayStation and Xbox consoles I'm sure potential ray-tracing discussion how that's going to work and be integrated onto a home gaming platform but we'll see so just a brief announcement they're good things to come everyone get excited but not too excited time for a disappointment there I'm super excited you should be for the most part with a grain of salt next up we have an article from Engadget about Facebook's FTC punishment that could involve 20 years of oversight as we all know Facebook has been on the on the burner you know they're under fire as of late it had been for a while ever since the whole Cambridge analytic a scandal last year where they were caught harvesting the data of 87 million people without their permission this was a huge deal remember Zuckerberg even went who is he talking in front of court of court of white people what are they called he was answering a bunch of questions they were interrogating him more or less a Senate or House Oversight Committee could have been them could have been one of those yeah and it's this huge deal because Facebook is obviously a tech giant they have a lot of people's information and if they're harvesting the data and selling it back to other companies sharing it with other third parties without people's consent that's it's a big deal so FTC is getting ready to negotiate the company's multi-billion dollar penalty for these security failures and it could it could actually set a world record I think the second right now the the current record for fines owed to the FTC was twenty two and a half million dollars paid by Google back in 2012 Facebook's looking at paying potentially up to five billion dollars which would blow that record away which is also insane so it could also result in Facebook having to carry out third party conduct audits every two years for the next 20 years to ensure that they're within compliance with these FTC rules and regulations so it's it's not it's not looking good it's not looking great for Facebook but never really like Facebook much anyway I don't I don't I don't put my personal unfamiliar face book I only have it so I can know people's birthdays even people I care about I don't know their birthdays just if you just look up their birthdays put it on like a calendar like you know too late Google Calendar or an online one I don't care about the birthdays of that piece okay I care about their birthdays enough to keep my facebook profile but not enough to actually jot them down on a different medium I do have my facebook I deleted my facebook account I had to make a new one to to cover to be able to handle with my pulse Hardware Facebook uh-huh which which has nothing posted to its yeah I don't post a my my business one either yeah is there a way that you can pause your account like basically make it private so that no one can see it it's like you don't exist on there but then you could always fire it back up later if you want to or I don't even know I've never tried I don't know okay like that began I'm not the prayer I was all I looked for was the nuclear option to completely completely delete well it's not destruct it makes you wait a month what yeah what I tell because what they're expecting is that you'll have this impulse at this draw to go back second basically you like hit delete I'm like they're like you want to delete everything yeah delete everything and then all right you've got a month don't login don't look at Facebook for one month and then your account will be deleted that's the only way they do it and they're expecting like you know a week or two into it Oh what if somebody posts something about me or like said stupid shit or whatever the fuck people do on Facebook by the way did you did the cursing warning right yeah I did we did now we case on the show exhibit anyway yeah people chatter saying you can disable your account okay disabled okay that's what I was thinking now that's a better it's better than crippling your account disabled and we know they're just using some bullshit marketing tactic it's like if you put a countdown timer on something that they already want to get rid of they'll see the countdown timer and psychologically they'll want it back because it's it's filled now all of a sudden it feels like it's your choice it feels like it's no longer in their hands it feels like it wasn't even their choice to delete their count the first place it's like Facebook's taking it away from them and then there's a countdown timer and you got act now it's a total mind fuckery at Facebook stealing do you know I'm proud of you Paul thank you sticking to your guns as a father I can that motherly was I can now preface any statement with you know as a father it lends more weight way more street cred more yeah to what I'm saying I just wanted to point that out you know I'll be I'll be tactful using that little your opening statement when Arian you know caught drinking and driving and thrown in jail with a DUI after killing two pedestrians but you know as a father they get up there all wasted and it was sick Oh considered thoroughly before having that that fireball went on that bender all right so let's let's talk about our next story we just as cheery Nvidia is getting sued oh good oh boy I mean that good it's a doozy not good if your Nvidia they're getting sued for copyright infringement of all things that's this patent Oh patent and rid same same old thing patent infringement not be right no I think that's the same no okay maybe not I don't know why I put copyright infringement it was it was 9:00 a.m. when I took notes I was stolen I mean infringement if you say the word infringement yeah which word goes with this sure probably you think copyright but no yeah you're definitely right because it is about five patents that are in question and this is from a company called X Perry Corp do you know this company and how to pronounce its name x perry click X Perry Corp I'm just gonna say X Perry they're a company that licenses IPS for for broadcast PE RI yeah or Sperry those companies that they like looked for a word that not hadn't been made a company yet go do this in search of the next people think exes are cool yeah and no one ever knows how to pronounce it right though it makes no fanatical sense so fucking stupid in work they must I saw this fucking stupid Corp yeah I think they're all cool and edgy stupid name we're having a nonsensical name I'm just kidding I don't know why I'm so aggressive towards this this corporation maybe they have a legitimate claim against some video oh yeah I shouldn't Chad said maybe it's short for experience that's probably what they want to imply expiry experience that's off of that like that's how they decide what the name should be for like pharmaceuticals the ads you see on TV for them and second oh yeah right it's like depress --ax yeah take a depress X there what an accident just know where I'm gonna make one up in my mind wellbutrin and that's an actual water right yeah I'm pretty sure that isn't I mean I've heard it before so let's be real okay so anyway they carry a bunch of different licenses for for a broad range of ips and tech like audio imaging codecs DTS X IMAX virtual X more importantly they license semiconductor packaging and inner core technology IP so the companies claiming that Nvidia is in violation of five of their patents all having to do and relate to semiconductor design the suit was filed in the US District Court of Delaware and X Perry has large clients like Sony LG Samsung $0.10 Alibaba so they've got a lot of big big names under their belt they've already won copyright and patent infringement lawsuits against Samsung in Broadcom I'm sorry broadband or no Broadcom that's right yeah I should take some broad so the fact that they've actually won these infringement lawsuits against these huge companies means that their patents are very very legally sound are well protected and they actually hold some some ground so it also it also tells us that their claims and complaints against Nvidia are most likely legitimate all they would have to do in a court of law is prove that Nvidia is actually using their IP no Tom's Hardware I stopped playing the always want to play Tom I'm sick of your shit damn it Tom seen enough okay so Nvidia might be in some trouble here it's hard to say how much they might end up owing or how they're going to pay off X Perry in the court of law if they are deemed guilty but yeah it's uh it seems like you know I don't think it's guilty in this type of thing I think it's liable guilty you're guilty of IP infringement I'm not a lawyer your guilt Jennsen look at that jacket it's not cruelty free at all how many cows do you have to kill to make that guilty Oh tell I'm really married to a vegan nobody is gonna counter sue you for slander and libel yeah then I will then I will be the guilty one for impersonating the Fashion Police I'll plead guilty fuck it come at me bro so um yeah Nvidia is under some heat right now god be with them hope it doesn't impact their graphics card manufacturing I can't imagine it would but we're suing we're suing your GPU manufacturing graphics cards all geforce cards triple in price that's okay they're already triple the normal rate they should be how it works all right so that's news those are the three banger headlines for today let's move on to my second revolutionary segment this is the world's first time the world's first time have ever shown this segment called world's first not face-off that's okay it's cuz I didn't put put the actual lower thirds that I made minutes before the show started onto the flash drives Paul now has we have a 2015 recap lower three we used to be so on top of it we've been doing the show since 2015 yeah oh my god geez we need to quit we're washed up with Fall Festival yeah okay so I'm just gonna do it it's almost fall well you talk about whatever stupid thing you're gonna say yep I'm gonna do I'm gonna go through old old lower thirds okay that's it he's gonna cycle through them let's just take a trip down memory lane like well now I'm distracted because I want to see all the lower thirds we've had in the past we can't do that you know really good to follow your script that you made because you well now well now it's like you've created a third a third segment off of this like a branch off segment where it's like you distract the host while they try to tell a story that actually be funny I hope we don't have you bang excuse me cryptocurrency see you back no that'd be bad Bitcoin currency just jumped from six grand to eight grand it did yeah just and I'm like oh no I feel conflicted you shouldn't put all those all those those bench test test benches away grandad jumped up recently I mean it was lingering around five grand okay anyway sorry no I'm against right now I'm like all right how do I make money I'm even more distracted now all right so world's first is a segment about companies who come out with products that they deem to be the world's first something and that's why if you if you saw the lower thirds you would see that world's first is put in quotations because some of these are have more legitimate claims to being world's first than others what what else can you tell us about the Lord returns it means that people can see there was a little picture there was a little there was a little mean-faced next to us first I think I have it up here you can totally see it there it is yeah a little mean guide that much like ya writes the best lower thirds ever it is I mean it's it's like Gloria really sexist too bad you look good see it it's like Marsellus Wallace's suitcase you never get to see what's really in there but it's glorious that's called the MacGuffin MacGuffin stuff all right so the first article here is from overclocked 3d net it's about a soos making the world's first monitor to feature concurrent motion blur reduction and adaptive sync all in one package concurrent motion blur reduction yeah so basically simultaneously the monitor supports extreme low motion blur and concurrent motion blur reduction and detective sing and adaptive sink which asus is calling extreme low motion blur sync or al mbc remember i'm gonna press it's a little black it's LM sink Elm sink so typically you could only have one or the other because LM be low motion motion blur requires strobing backlight which is really difficult to sort of sync up with a panel that has adaptive refresh rate so asus has done it with their new tough v g3 2 BQ display just another tough series monitor that's also kind of I don't know if they've had a monitor in their tough series before I don't think so this looks like an rog swift panel for all intensive purposes but you know tough branding even though it's nowhere else up to be found on the actual monitor at least from what I can see in this picture it's what's on the screen though so yep that's all the monitor can display is this image yeah no that's that sure they're cleaning it to be an issue is exclusive you know for now I'm sure at some point other manufacturers will have this on their panels too but issue seems to be that it seems to have the first pick of the litter and the panel did be used the new tech the panel that W is the new text is sporting a 32 inch screen 1440p v a technology with HDR support not sure what what the rating is its HDR 400 that's it's pretty pointless and a 144 Hertz refresh rate so it's gonna be fast have pretty good color reproduction because it's VA and yeah you get LMB sync Elm sync to his house so you get you know I guess I guess that would be free sync more or less yes and extreme low and motion blur they just say adaptive sync no because you can use it within video too I know they totally like it's like they took it away from AMD freesync was very much an AMD thing and they like not just its open-source today he doesn't own it screw him you know works for D fourth cards just as well everyone go by G fourth card no pricing or availability on the panel just yet I guess we'll keep our eyes out for it and that's all for that let's move on to our next article from hexxus lenovo has previewed the world's first foldable pc Hey whoa it's actually a laptop but hold on Kyle the most part all laptops foldable that's right it's a screen it's a dual screen that's foldable it's a foldable screen that they announce that they're accelerate 19 event in Florida this week and it's a part of the premium ThinkPad x1 family slated for a 2020 launch it's not a phone this is a quote from Lenovo not a tablet or familiar hybrid this is a full-fledged laptop with a foldable screen thanks for clearing that up Lenovo comes with a sailboat we've no idea just looking at the picture just what they're watching uh they also went on to say that this will no way compromise productivity and reliability which could very well be famous last words because as far as I could tell this thing has no physical keyboard and I don't know how organ amah core practical this is gonna be as a laptop replacement world bends to you if you've got a touch has I've ever been a thing a touch a screen touch keyboard I've seen the laser ones where it's like a little laser projection those are garbage I've seen you know you obviously type with your phone and you're in your thumbs that's a different thing you ever seen like typing on a screen with your like a full QWERTY keyboard on a screen I'm pretty sure yes that's that's been done before remember you know like laptops that they doesn't have a screen on the top and the screen screen on the bottom I wonder how well that did I can't imagine that it was talking about living so beer I think so I don't know that this seems super gimmicky to me I feel like you know it probably has the power of a laptop but I don't think that it's gonna be as productive or practical as one simply because the the keyboard in situation and yeah okay you could carry your own keyboard around with you your own wireless you know Bluetooth keyboard but that's not practical either you know it's beauty the laptop so all in one so it's gonna have a 2k OLED panel with the touch and stylus it seems like a glorified tablet to me 13.3 inch diagonal screen when it's fully open and you get a nine point six inch screen when it's folded so the you know one half of the other will be nine point six inches diagonal from corner to corner promising all-day battery life yada yada yada they had tablet booked and productivity modes that were shown off it can also easily dock into a multi-monitor setup for work purposes for example that's a cost there's no there's no mentioned cost David I would imagine two grand which is ridiculous sure why not just because it's a new feature that isn't even that useful given how the galaxy folds recently yeah exactly and that I I certainly hope they do better right with the fold and their screen there's a lot of issues that we were talking about in a previous episode of this show on why foldable screens prone to so many issues you know a lot of dead pixel potential dust can get underneath the part of the screen that's moving up and down at the fold on during this bump at the spine a lot of other things so we'll see how it does I consider all folding screens right now as guinea pigs and it's not necessarily a technology I'd be a proud early adopter of till they work the kinks out and then our last world's first product for today is the HP omen x2s promising to be or alleging to be the world's first dual screen gaming laptop ah hold on a second to screen down here didn't we see we see the razor razor one of the razor blades something's I mean the the razor the razor get it get everyone's attention at Computex them or was that CES CSEE yes I think the razor triple monitor laptop it's sort of the V Valerie Project Valerie Project Valerie Valkyrie Valkyrie no Valentino that Valentine Valentine oh I'd like that project vasectomy yeah at any rate this is claiming that you know well hey we're the first one to actually come to market with a dual screen gaming laptop all right so I guess that does that does count for something it was announced today at the HP gaming festival in Beijing and HP claims that a second six inch touchscreen embedded above the keyboard deck shakes the foundation of what's expected of a gaming laptop with tremendous multitasking capabilities for various activities and support with dedicated hotkeys shakes the foundation oh okay so HP is claiming some I don't know some really bold claims here they're saying I don't know where they got these numbers 82% to PC gamers use mobile phones for messaging during gaming sessions I don't think that's true but okay 61% listen to music while they game it's probably more believable but that still seems kind of high 49 percent watch game related live streams video content and browse the web that I think is the most believable of the three but they're saying that all of this can be done with this little 6 inch companion screen that's the bottom of the monitor or at the bottom of the laptop and you can also do some some nifty things like real time cut and magnify so if you wanted to take let's say the mini-map of you're playing a racing game you want to take the mini-map and blow it up and put that on the screen below you can do that just real time on the fly which i think is pretty useful actually okay have some applications there so I feel this is part gimmicky part actually getting somewhere close to being innovative but the main screen is 15.6 inch 6 inches at 1080p with 144 Hertz or 240 Hertz max refresh you can kind of configure it to your to your needs or you can swap it out for a 4k HDR 460 Hertz panel which I don't think would be a good idea but that's just me you can also choose from an Intel ninth gen core processor up to an 8 core core i9 and up to an RT X 20 80 max Q so that's some pretty beefy specs there as well 20 millimeter thick body with all that Hardware in there even with a Mac that max Q I mean r-tx 2080 core I know it's gonna get it's gonna get pretty hot so how does HP plan to tackle heat and thermals in particular in a 20 millimeter thick body all things considered well I'm glad you asked Paul they're using thermal Grizzly's conductive nuts liquid metal compound obviously or it's often advertised I believe on gamers Nexus his channel I know they've done some ads with thermal grizzly in the past and they're conducted not stuff so you know if it's Steve approved I prove it to ya this is good enough for me Steve's tested it surely he has tested barrels and barrels of this stuff so that's probably where they got the idea they're the HP reps for watching gamers next week this guy really loves his conducting not maybe we should just stick this in our laptop and just hike the price up 20% that sounds like a great idea check so HP's claiming 20% FPS uplift over traditional thermal interface material in games like apex legends that's crazy oh well nearly a 30% gaming performance uplift just from switching to liquid metal you never know I'm sure I'm sure it'll be tested what I'm sure they'll be tested I yeah it seems like a bold claim I mean if it's really lowering temperatures that much I mean again you need to see the full testing conditions to really say I mean this is very very there's nothing that we're going off of here they haven't given any other information this is just a bottom line statement that could be skewed in any way take that with a grain of salt and be really interested to test that claim though because it is so bull the omen x2s is expected in the UK starting July at 20 499 great British pounds that's probably like what around 3 grand u.s. or something like that $24.99 yeah I'm just shooting in the dark but that's that's what that model starts at so it just goes up from there three thousand two hundred and twenty seven dollars okay yeah almost thirty two hundred bucks or a little over 3,200 bucks u.s. pretty penny pretty pretty penny it's for the one-percenters out there but that concludes world's first that was the world's first world's first things first absolutely fall and then we can go to not the world's first segment of leaks leaks I believe we have that lower thirds yes we do a lower third yes we do oh because so beauty run a tight ship around here we do you know the only the only lower thirds that out does that one sadly is the BT running a tight ship how about one of those beers oh yeah you you're a new father you could use it no ma'am you know I don't think I can't remember the last time you finished a beer before I did and suddenly you become a dad and now you're back things to talk about even still even on my half I'm always checking up wait open this beer with my Paul sorry rare bottle opener available in my stores it's so efficient it even works for your friends beer too yes all right so these you can use it at least 20 times it's like the knife from Resident Evil 2 yeah to use it three times in the shadows alright let's move on to leaks this is the AMD edition of leaks because all the leaks today involving and be exciting isn't that coincidental mm-hmm it sure is suspicious you might even say I know I feel like these are all coordinated leaks planned attacks on our psyche they're messing with our minds but let's see whoa we'll try it out let me kind of fun to determine was this a legitimate leak or was this an intentional slip well we can tell people oh we can tell if you can let we can let them know what's true and what's not we will they are the voice of truth and reason so this articles from overclock 32.3 DV net and it involves Rison third gen 16 core engineering sample having its details leaked all over the juicy web thanks to our good friend who we have no idea who he is come up a sec the map attacked a map a sec very well known for his leaks on the internet when it comes to these matters he tweets him he revealed he revealed specs of his n 216 core him right here that's hot blood yeah I like to shake his hand be like thanks for the leaks peace you leak on me anytime you want tongue I would if that's his real name tum tum Peppa sec I don't see any way could be otherwise tiny Tom Logan alright so what well is this an engineering sample 16 core he discovered that it has a base in boost clock of 3.3 and 4.2 gigahertz respectively now this is an engineering sample so not indicative necessarily of the final specs out of the box for retail but it's a step in the right direction it gives us a little hint at what these chips are capable of now the hike or count of a 16 core chip on the aam 4 platform means we have actually more concern now for the power circuitry capabilities of lower end a m4 motherboards it's kind of one of the trade-offs of having you know this really Universal platform that is am for that that AMD is created for us is that you've got all kinds of boards you've got high-end flagship mid-range and then like the bare bones basic you know really crappy low-end vrm power delivery boards and so to keep AMD's promise they actually have to make these 16 core chips able to run at least somewhat decently and and according to spec of whatever's listed them on the box so if they say it's going turbo to 4.2 it better taper at a 4.2 on even the shittiest you know $60 am for board yeah so that means that they potentially have to lower the clock speed out of the box just to you know to the lowest common denominator that also also that also indicates that we might be able to see higher clock speeds from the more mid-range core count CPUs so like an 8 core or 12 thread or I'm sorry 8 core 12 core rising 3000 series chip you might actually see higher out-of-the-box clocks than the 16 core for example so those are gonna be particularly better when it comes to single threaded performance and the more multi-threaded focused users are lot more likely to opt for something like 16 core chip this is all just speculation of course and assuming that uh mapa SEC isn't pulling our leg or anything but yeah it makes sense when you when you have to you know keep in mind that the TDP has to be manageable for the multitude of a.m. for boards out there the article also notes a good point here that thread Ripper for example doesn't really have to worry about this as much because they don't have this tight power of power requirements every board is seemingly over engineered in a way they're all very expensive you can't find like a super cheap budget or entry-level threader per board x3 nine board so I guess that's a bit of a trade-off there um let's see that's pretty much all I summarized that really quickly but efficiently that was good alright any any comments their fault moving on is this the first like 16 core I mean I know you've seen some Zen Zen to rise and 3000 series stuff popping up obviously this is the first one that's been like 16 16 core yeah right that's good which you know we've all kind of a assume a lot of people have been expecting because yeah this if you look at this this is the chip lit with 8 cores on it and there's a spot right here where it seems like they put the space for another one yeah it'd be silly if they just left a space untapped yeah oh it would also not be a sensible chip design because if you're talking about keeping things cool why would you offset the main CPU die in a weird spot where you know you might not necessarily get as good coverage from the thermal paste and stuff like that yes it doesn't that point doesn't make less there's a good point um all right let's move on to our next AMD related leak this is from WCC F Tech master of leaks the bio star x5 70 motherboard is leaked out this is their GT 8 part of their racing series supporting Rison 3000 CPUs it's been leaked by none other than well biostar they actually apparently couldn't wait till copy text and they put their flagship x5 70 a.m. for board on their product catalog which reveals all the details and specs for the specific model that you see here ah it's the black board the one that's right friend center it's got some silver accents on there it's probably got some element of RGB yeah I can see it right there 12 phase vrm four dimm slots up to 64 gigs capacity at 4000 megahertz now this is kind of cool because it confirms that we're gonna be able to see 4,000 speed sticks from from x5 70 a lot of people were wondering how much how much higher the the supported ram frequency would be I agree with at land 3000 and chat what's up with the fan and the chipset heatsink yeah so that is one of the features is the chipset on top of the I'm sorry that the heatsink on top of the chipset is being actively cooled by a tiny little probably noisy fan 7-blade fan fortunately they've included an on/off switch so you can just disable it if you want to but wouldn't that be worse than just having a regular heatsink if you just wanted better cooling because I mean the fan is taking up space for passive cooling so if you miss able it you have a very small heatsink now it's only curious what kind of tangible benefit you get from keeping your chipset a few degrees cooler actively cooling it with the fan right but who knows I mean there's supposed to be PCI Express Gen 4 and stuff like that maybe maybe it's so fast because of this bandwidth the chipset gets really hot Guido Sarducci actually said that according to build Zoid who knows everything about everything so the fan on the chipset heatsink is for overheating during specific events that are not mentioned yet so perhaps there is some very unique use case scenarios where it's big that's very big it's very vague I know what that means almost so vague it's almost vega guido terrible often speaks in riddles yeah he's used the Riddler um but thanks for that input there all right so we've got three PCI Express 4.0 by 16 slots and this is the generation of 4.0 PCI Express all the x-force 570 boards are going to feature this new spec and it's something that even though you know aim for boards will be backwards compatible look at that existing a.m. for board users will miss out on this new battle start put this image out oh look at that double chip look I did somebody just take the an existing one and I copy and occupation and paste it there I would have put like five more on there yeah oh you could you can fit several more around the edges here if you should get rid of these other little transistors well 50 for clothes probably aren't important yeah you should put put more there just for decor oh look here's a better shot yeah lots of em got two heat sinks alright and that's that's a bio starboard any other things to note here pretty much the same like very similar IO to what we've seen on X 470 what this is such a bio star thing to do they've made a board here where they've clearly paid some attention to aesthetics made stuff black they have some designs going on with the X racing thing here and then like Oh what about that USB 3.0 header bus is that really the color the black ones cost is an extra like tenth of a cents more per board each now I just go with the we got more of those light blue ones lying around ready to put those on there oh yeah surplus be completely hopefully that's just for them yeah that's terrible are there any other pictures of the board I don't think so at the very top maybe this is just a blow-up from that original picture oh no it's still there yeah yeah oh god no just file star come on come on this is why who proved that this is why you're lumped with ECS and in the estimation many people low blow Paul and sorry I'm say no one deserves to be a CS makes the ND and the XT motherboard - I think right they do okay they don't and we like they don't advertise relatedly and we like NZXT products we do alright let's move on to our last pretty though they're pretty are so pretty okay our last AMD related leak is from WCC F tech Radeon rx 600 series has been spotted in latest drivers this was discovered and hey you mention that you mentioned this earlier I did foreshadowings big old circle back baby awesome actually planned just some noise at the TPU forms that's his name just some noise discovered this in the latest drivers includes listings of two Radeon rx 600 series cards but they appear to be based on the polaris architecture no new Navi GPU arc here the RX 630 in our X 640 contained the same device ID as the Radeon rx 500 series cards so this potentially seems to be a rebrand ooh a rebrand of a rebrand reprint a rebrand of a rebrand of a rebrand of a rebrand rebrand ception this is this is crazy the arcs or any 580 yeah yeah it's I mean it's it's crazy how long are they gonna milk this out well I guess the cards are still selling so marketing's like yeah I keep going for it the arts 640 has the same device ID as the rx 550 X which is based on Polaris 23 XT GPU architecture which was a revised version of the Polaris 21 GPU that itself is based on the Polaris 11 design the rx 630 however is a replacement of the Radeon 540 X sporting a Polaris 23 MXL GPU this will be the fourth Polaris rebrand to make no mistake seems like the rx 600 series will be aimed at OE M's but we may see some consumer desktop launches as well there is some speculation here that Navi could still make its way into the RX 600 series but they would just be higher tiers and then the lower tiers would just get eaten up by Polaris base GPUs or Navi is not going to see the light of day when it comes to our X 600 it'll be under a completely different name which i think is probably the more likely option and these will just be not very exciting rebrand cards so and it better not be the only thing that they announce it freaking e3 I'll be very disappointed if they don't talk about Navi at all they got to give us a crumb we got to give us something more so yeah I think I think they've stretched this one out long enough I feel like the GTX 1650 was the last hoorah for for the Radeon rx series like the last feather in their hat be like see we're still relevant and we're still a good bang for the buck option but to drag it out living more 16:50 I mean like that might be the last time we get really excited for BRX for the video for the RX radeon rayon RX polaris cards before they're before they actually get replaced with because we were generations because the GTX 1650 kind of made them look good with its exactly right once it's stupid pricing right it's stupid performance yes exactly we you know for that moment we kind of forgot you know we kind of give him a pass for being you know an older and older GPU and they haven't really done much in the entry-level realm in a while but it was fine because and I actually worked up to their benefit because they're around for longer you can actually have you can get really good deals on Radeon rx cards Polaris based cards on the second-hand market so like yeah I did a video recently where I got a an rx 574 like 85 bucks on eBay which is almost half the price of a brand new gtx 1650 but i'm rambling now getting off-topic the point is is that i'm not particularly thrilled about yet another rebrand of another rebrand of another rebrand but they often do this just so they can throw them in OEM machines and you know people who are looking at them who never look at computer parts otherwise like oh it's a higher number so we'll we'll get that one yeah right but yeah but that's all that's all for my half of the show yay ladies and gents thank you very much don't go anywhere though because Paul has a riveting half of the show all lined up for you he's gonna do a song and 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