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all righty then so I was I was actually about to go to bed the other night and I got a notification of my phone from Amazon saying that they had a desktop buying guide that I should check out so I checked it out and I was mortified at the results like the concept of the guide is good you know it asks you what are you using the desktop for so it can tailor the results to your needs but the results it spits out are pretty garbage so we're gonna take a closer look at it today see what Amazon is suggesting their users buy if they're looking for a desktop PC and not willing to build their own which you totally should be and I may perhaps take one or two of the pre-built we'll be looking at and revising their parts lists to make a better system for the amount of money they're asking and maybe if you guys are interested in building a PC of that budget and for those needs you might find this video a little helpful the Corsair won I won 40 and I won 60 are the best portable power houses on the market featuring up to an Intel Core i $9.99 hundred K and NVIDIA GeForce r-tx 20 atti Corsairs liquid cooling system for the CPU and GPU delivers uncompromised performance low temps and minimal noise for an experienced few systems its size can achieve for those who want everything this is the one click on the link below to learn more let's just go ahead and rip Amazon a new one starting at third whether their desktop buying guide home page here oh by the way I am very aware that I haven't activated windows on the system yet but thank you in advance anyway for the million plus comments that are rolling in probably at this very moment notifying me of that fact taking a look here we've got a couple Apple IMAX those like really these are the first things you show on the desktop buying guy that landing page okay you've also got a couple pre-built here Acer Dell CyberPower but at the top of the page you can narrow the results down further as I mentioned by picking which of these tasks you'll be using your desktop for and I'm gonna choose gaming because I feel like a lot of us are gamers and we like gaming PCs so wait hold on hold on okay I click gaming and still the Apple I Macs are the first two results what you know what I'm not gonna hate I'm gonna give them the benefit of the doubt both Apple and Amazon I'm gonna click on the first one here and just we'll take a look at the price and specs and see see how it goes so fifteen hundred and forty-nine dollars now bear in mind the Apple IMAX are a little bit different because they come included with a 5k display which is a pretty nice bonus act the one problem I have with that though is that if you're gonna buy an iMac primarily for gaming most likely the specs inside are not gonna be able to drive that 5k display anyway so let's just take a look at the who knows let's take a look at the specs let's see what's what's possible here we've got a seventh gen dual core Core i5 CPU $1500 and 2019 should get you at least a core i7 with six or eight cores or definitely a rise in seven CPU with eight cores and sixteen threads if you're going AMD we only have eight gigs of RAM - I mean I've been able to fit 16 gigs in $500 budget pcs no problem so that's that's not great for GPU we've got a couple options depending on the kit that you want to be outfitted with Radeon Pro 575 75 or 580 with up to eight gigs of VRAM okay so the Radeon Pro Series from what I understand are not quite as fast as their rx 500 series counterparts when it comes to gaming but they're not far behind that being said this system isn't chalking up to be a solid option if gaming is your primary focus especially for the price one terabyte let me guess it's a hard drive this guy is saying that it's advertised as having a one terabyte hard look excuse me I've got the hiccups now this always happens when I see a bad pre-built oh there it is again so I searched for the word SSD and the reviews and on the product page with all the marketing text nothing we're talking about spinning rust here which is as most of us know much slower than an SSD it's really not a fun experience if it's the only drive in your system ok I'm done looking at this alright Amazon I gave you the benefit of the doubt bro and you let me down and you gave me the hiccups that's not cool man what's up with that oh yeah so just so we're crystal if you happen to be in the gaming section of Amazon's desktop buying guide don't buy this don't buy this and this is scary because not everyone knows what all these specs are and someone should be like well it's the first one it's got 92 reviews and four and a half stars it's the first one that Amazon told me to buy so I'm gonna buy it and they're gonna be disappointed all right this is a much different price point here sick hundred and thirty dollars from HP this is a pavilion desktop and it's got a rise in seven 1700 not bad for the price but let's keep going twelve gigs of ram is a little weird you usually see eight or sixteen this might indicate a proprietary motherboard which isn't the best especially if you plan to upgrade ddr4 2666 that is some slo-mo memory module rising feeds off of fast memory you want to give it some high frequency RAM I usually suggest 3200 if you can squeeze it 3,000 is not bad either especially if you can overclock it to 3200 but 2666 come on kemon one terabyte hard drive you know I wasn't really expecting an SSD in here although although you could squeeze one in for this price point and I'll show you how in just a moment and Windows 10 and that's something worth noting is that pre belts to their credit usually come included with the software the operating system is included with the price so you have to worry about that what's the graphics give me the graphics rx 550 get out come on you can easily cram an RX 580 in there no problemo especially with all the price drops we've been saying you can get an 8 gig model for 179 bucks it's not too hard to find so rx 550 is weak sauce I wonder what cooler they have in here - they probably don't have a decent enough cooler for you to overclock that 1700 I would be very surprised if there's anything comparable to like a hyper 212 in there I have seen enough alright Amazon you fed us a bad apple recommendation and a bad PC recommendation but those are both from really big name brands what if we go to someone let what if we check out a build from say a smaller s ah maybe one I've never heard of like adamant computers I've never heard of atamans I can adamantly say that so maybe they'll give you more bang for your buck let's check it out no all right there we go Verizon 720 700 X all right now we're talking eight core 16 threads second gen Rison I'm feeling it I'm feeling a 16 16 gigs of ram do we know the speed it does not say it does not say anything alright not sure about that 3 terabyte hard drive 250 gig SSD thank you 650 watt power supply and a geforce r-tx 2060 that's a little a little weak 1616 with a $1600 budget I'm pretty sure you could squeeze a lot more performance out of a gaming rig let's see if we can do okay so after like 10 minutes on PC part picker I parted out a rig that comes out to sixteen hundred and one dollars it's about the same price they've got a 2700 X we've got a 2700 we could just overclock this especially with our nice nut knock to a cooler we can overclock all the cores probably to four gigahertz thereabouts maybe even 4.1 and it's gonna perform exactly the same as say an overclock to 2,700 X running at the same same frequency however if you aren't overclocking that's not your thing you're just you're scared for some stupid reason then yeah okay it's your 27700 X is gonna run a little faster out of the box but just overclock it just overclock and you'll be fine alright so you got that knocked to a cooler in there it's a nice little air cooler 120 mm I don't went eemiller in your fan I hate these freaking hiccups I'm so over it FS I'd be 450 tomahawk motherboard I definitely vouch for that board I've used it a ton and it's you know it's it's probably better than the board that's in here I mean I don't to make any assumptions but it probably is I match they're 16 gigs of ram but we've got 3200 speed again can't verify what the speeds running they're Intel 5 4 5 s 256 gig SSD more or less the same as what they have although I'm not exactly sure what model they're using this is the one area they have a speed they've got a 3 terabyte hard drive we have a 2 terabyte hard drive but when you see the rest of the specs I don't think that's gonna matter too much to the average user we have an MSI r-tx 2088 gig ventas video card this isn't like a blower style card either it's it's got dual fans it's a pretty decent cool cooler open-air shroud this is gonna beat the crap out of an RT X 2060 you know here's my rule of thumb is if you're building a gaming PC take your budget whatever your max budget is so you want to spend a thousand thousand dollars on a rig allocate half of that budget around more or less half to your GP now this isn't gonna work for everyone some people have complex needs but if you're just gaming allocate around half of your budget to the GPU because that's what's gonna affect your gaming performance the most so you can see I spent about 700 bucks on the 2080 it's definitely less than half but you know if we went the next rung up RTX 2080 ti that would go way over half of our budget we're talking you know 1,100 1,200 plus for for a GPU and just to put things in perspective the r-tx 2060 is a great card for 1080p and even 1440p gaming but you get you really get your foot in the door to 4k gaming with an RT x 2080 should you be interested in that and even if you're not I mean let's say you're just gaming at 1440p you can be gaming at that resolution with an RT x 2080 for a three four maybe even five years before you even think about upgrading your GPU whereas you're gonna feel that slow down a lot sooner with the 2060 for the case I went with an Eclipse 400 from fantex this is a I use this case very recently and I'm using using it again here because I follow my own advice damn it $70 case alright tempered glass no those acrylics nonsense not throwing shade on the focus gee this is a great great case I actually really like this case a lot refractive but if you have the money to spare and you like the way tempered glass looks and you don't want your side panel window being scratched up like a then this is a great it's a great options it's got a power supply shroud this case doesn't and just great cable management all around so solid option there and we have a see sonic focus gold 650 watt semi modular unit oh yeah and and look at this I included Windows 10 home whoo hundred bucks this is just a bonus you know if you go to like a Windows key reseller you can find them for much cheaper than than retail I usually get mine from a reseller for like 30 to 35 bucks and it definitely keeps you from eating into your budget for the rest of the PC alright adamant you did much better than Apple and HP but still not quite the build we're looking for here so let's let's take a games list it'll give you guys one more chance Amazon Amazon alright show me something good alright let's go with cyber power alright so first I went with an aside a really no cyber power is practically a household name for PC builders so let's see what they have to offer here for seven hundred and ten dollars rather than five fourteen hundred Oh okay so first gen rise and this might be an older pre-built model I would go with the second generation if you're building a system now just get it Rison five twenty six hundred perhaps you would even get two more cores and four more threads as compared to this quad core here in AMD r7 250 two gigabyte card no no no what is that even capable of I think I own in our seven two fifty but I've never been smart it it's just been held captive garage all these years it's probably tried to run away at some point but you know it's too slow this isn't even good for 1080p anymore ah someone's gonna buy this 16 people already bought this I hope they got it on sale eight gigs of RAM should be 16 1 terabyte hard drive no SSD you get Windows 10 but that doesn't make up for that ah all right I'll be right back again so here's my alternate parts list like I said a rise in five twenty six hundred I think is a great choice for this price point 6 cores 12 threads you get all the benefits and features of second gen Rison plus it comes included with the wraith stealth cooler that's pretty cool literally and when I can spend any additional money on a cooler that way so so that's fun you get by be 450 MDS 3h this is micro ATX board so we have to be comfortable with that form factor this board admitting Lee does not have a bunch of bells and whistles it's very basic although one thing that I made sure look out for was four dimm slots there are a lot of be 450 boards in this price range that only have two DIMM slots I want to get four that way we can upgrade expand down the line we also have a 16 gig kit of guile Evo Spears so this is also some budget ram ddr4 at 13 oh it's 3,000 ideally I like to have 3200 in a perfect world but considering the price of just $80.00 I I think this is a pretty good deal we have a much better storage solution here I've actually managed to cram in an SSD 240 gig it's a pn y CS 900 we can boot off of this we can install frequently used applications and this even more so than the CPU upgrade is gonna make the system feel perceptibly so much snappier and responsive still pairing that with a one terabyte hard drive and I can't wait to hear all your jokes about how unreliable so you get barracudas are the GPU is really the biggest upgrade here we're going from an r7 250 with two gigs of memory to an Rx 588 gig card this is the red dragon from power color it's got it's got a cool little dragon on the box so you know it's fast but it is it's gonna be so much faster than than that r7 250 it's it's not even funny now I did get a little inspired from the last pre-built we looked at with the the Focus G from from fractal that case so I'm using that case again but this is the focus G mini yeah I know it's an acrylic side panel window but it's $50 come on you know it's got a really smart cable management layout you know all the cutouts are where they should should be their ample size there's plenty of space behind the motherboard tray if you know what you're doing and it's very well built for the price steel material and all that jazz our power supplies a 500 watt 80 plus bronze certified semi modular Rose will glacier Galatians this unit before it does have nasty ketchup and mustard cables which which I don't like but it is something modular it's 80 plus rated has very good review surprisingly and it's within our budget now that's all the hardware for the system and if that's all you're looking for you don't need an OS we're actually under that 710 dollar price point but if you do need an operating system like Windows 10 and you're paying full retail price you are gonna go over seven hundred and ten bucks so I'm playing my Windows key reseller card right now I went on kinguin net which is a key reseller that I use all the time and I found a Windows 10 home key for 29 bucks and 37 cents so I'm adding that to the list because if this is my personal build that's the price I would pay for that key I would I would go to kinguin I would not spend $100 on a freaking Windows 10 key is just ridiculous the total costs including the operating system comes out to seven hundred and eight dollars and 87 cents that's cheaper like a whole dollar cheaper than this oh and I missed this before they have ketchup and mustard cables too oh look at that stock fan oh that's stock AMD heatsink oh I'm gonna have nightmares so I guess the moral the story here is if you're gonna go to the Amazon desktop buying guide to buy a gaming PC don't and that probably goes for all the other categories that they have here too like if you needed a system for multimedia and creative the first thing that pops up is a $1000 CyberPower PC that I can already see right here is is just you can you can build can build a better system for this price it's just the same pattern and trend that we're seeing with with pre-built systems and there are people out there who for whatever reason cannot or do not want to build their own but if you can help it if you could just just manage to do it it's so much better if you build it yourself as hopefully I've demonstrated today and for the record I'm not knocking all pre builds there are companies out there who do pre-built s'right if you know where to look and sure in some way this video is a bit of a critique towards those s eyes and pre build manufacturers but it's also sort of a critique on Amazon more so because they're the ones who are curating this list these lists for people who might not know what they're doing in fact if there looking at a desktop buying guide then they probably don't know what they're doing and so I just feel like it might be a little bit risky or maybe even irresponsible for Amazon to just sort of loosey-goosey Liston iMac here so I don't really Amazon yeah you're smarter than me you're the big company maybe hire someone who knows computers to do this and hopefully everyone will benefit from it but that's just my input what do I know but thank you for watching this video if you enjoyed it toss a like on it before you go and get subscribed for more tech stuff coming at you really soon did you guys notice that I put the acoustic foam panels down here it's all kind of coming together still echo in here but I'm working on it I have more stuff in the works for echo reduction so that's coming soon too did I already say subscribe yeah you guys know the drill alright that's all for now guys thank you for watching have a good one and I will see 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