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did it just started a stream it's ramping up a lot of time for one last chip we are live I'm not eating anything what's up guys some professional welcome back part 2 of Awesome hardware episode 36 if you didn't catch part and you're watching this on youtube go ahead and check out paul's channel Paul's hardware watch part a and then come back here or watch Part B first and then watch part a if you're feeling ballsy and you're just living life on the edge either way it doesn't matter if it's a B let's be be from blood not sadi that's a B it's a deep I usually just do both at the same time yeah just pick the one that works that's blood how do you know how to do that setup uh I'm gonna be scary oh oh oh what do we do now Cal's gonna introduce the show while I go get another beer okay I'll introduce the show okay really oh I want to be here ok go ok just me and you now guys my shirt will be off on Paul returns no I'm sorry I can't do that but a couple things to point out in case you missed the first half of the show we do have some merchandise that we are selling of course as always we've got shirts in the awesomesauce merch store as well as Paul's hardware net / store or no it's stored up Paul's hardware done net or something like that man this is falling apart rapidly let's see let's go ahead and go to the main camera here or the lower third no that's not right I don't know how to work this thing Paul's bottles in the way of OBS and I can't see right now so let's go ahead two stories aha now you can see my store haha Kyle learns OBS in this episode of Awesome hardware go ahead and purchase a shirt or hoodie I am all sold out of the traditional awesomesauce network logo shirts but I do have the battery sauce in stock in a couple sizes go ahead and check those out also Paul has glassware he's got shirts he's gone you know you should just really have some glasses you should have like some poles hardware glasses thank god you're back ok things have deteriorated at an alarming rate are you doing I'm doing fine okay I'm doing fine it was it was completely dark downstairs was it really ireia I at first I was like I'm gonna have to feel my way through here and I realized i have a flashlight on my phone we also do have electricity in the house you could have turned on a light so I don't know where your light switches are and it was literally too dark to see like my grandparents have this weird habit or that's just how they roll because they were like born in the jungle of just sitting downstairs in the living room with all the lights completely off that's cool didn't know anything I'm not against that I just it was I was surprised but it was creeping when I first moved in because I didn't know they did that so I come home and to be like 11 p.m. at night and I'd be with having like sure you wanna get something from the kitchen we wanted they can just like pitch black like welcome home well it's like they just can't be there so since Lee since then after finding out that information we we call them grand pyres because they like to chill in the time in the pitch-black dark seeress they're allergic to life how far did you get I just talked about our shirts I did want to also mention the whole epic pants calm if you will yeah show them that so epic pants calm is I'm sure many of you are familiar with its where Logan from text in the kit sells all of his awesome merchandise the reason why we're showing you this even though it's not my or pulse tour is because now you can get combined shipping discounts from all three of our stores because we all go through the same t-shirt guy Logan actually referred us Paul and I to this guy his name's John he's really awesome this is this this shirt here yes I magic I'm gonna take credit for this shirt this shirt was my idea oh nice yes really yes we came yeah there should be a Paul's hardware logo on the back of their some you should or some kind of like your cereal truth your signature in the bottom right so go ahead and buy stuff from all of us is the point they're trying to make there's also once it gets shipped together you did you get a refund for part of the shipping costs you won't see the refund when you're checking out if you're buying from all of us you'll get it later but but don't be worried if you don't see it while you're checking out another big announcement and Paul and I have really been lagging on this but a few weeks back on the show that was episode 33 or so we announced that we were looking for a new awesome hardware logo and we did forget to mention this in part a of the show but since then you guys have been doing a great job of tweeting us your pictures and your ideas and your concept and your logos and your designs to both of our Twitter accounts and I just wanted to say that we lost all that and we no longer have any of it because we're irresponsible adults that are basically children I think he sighed both of us were under the impression that the other person every time they got a tweet with the picture was like gathering them and then I was like did you do that and it goes like no did you do that and I was like no so we saw many of them were incredibly appreciative for all those that were sent in but if you happen to do a design please drop it in an email you send it to awesome hardware rules @ gmail.com right awesome hardware rules @ gmail.com rules spelled regularly are you le s right nosy yeah no Z's in there we're not 12 so that way we can keep track of all your logos and designs and will actually pick one of them relatively soon we're going to give you guys a week or so I'm gonna say just to send in those designs again again if you already send it to us on Twitter email it to us the same design that you had originally because we lost it and if you if we happen to choose your logo or we get inspired by your logo for our next t-shirt design our next first-ever joint awesome hardware t-shirt then you'll definitely get some some prizes sent your way for both of us and that's pretty much it for announcements that will be pleasant is very important also if you order something both about either of our stores during the show will yell jump today yes and it will it will scare you and arouse you and it will be good at the same time let's move on to news the first segment of this part of the show starting with DirectX 12 and all the beautiful things that Microsoft has implement implemented into it in particular we're going to be talking about multi adapter functionality in this this nude low-level API which is really interesting because it allows you to essentially allows the developers to basically combine different or dissimilar GPUs in a multi-gpu setup eyes right now we're you know very used to like a you have a 980 I you better get a second 980 TI if you want to take advantage of sli oh you got a 7870 better get another one those if you want to take advantage of crossfire X so what this does is it essentially grants the developers of the games more control with multi GPU rendering and an antec they actually got a special exclusive build of ashes of the singularity very popular the first-ever DirectX 12 game that actually allows for this kind of feature this multi-gpu explicit multi adapter functionality is what they're calling it AKA multi display adapter fury x and a 980 TI here in the same system right and before this whole article before this phenomenon that would be a no no or would just be purposeless because we wouldn't really soon work but you can only use one GP or the other exactly it would be fruitless but that that has all changed now not only can you combine dissimilar GPUs but the performance gains that you can see from them is actually more impressive than you might think originally Wow yeah so with with their testing I don't know if you're still yeah this is the Atlantic article if you go to the one specific page with the high-end video card comparisons they've got a bunch of charts and stuff rights yes so go to the one down yeah that one hi ng peas you scroll down you'll see the chart that has all the different combinations of GPUs that they've tried now this is really interesting the r9 Theory X and the GTX 980 TI combined takes the lead in this benchmark of ashes of singularity that actually topped a 980 TI and a Titan X when combined which is the fourth one down and that's with that's with the fury X is the primary card and then they also ran it with a 980 TI is a primary card which got a little bit a little bit less performance right so what this tells us is that the order of which card is in the primary slot at the top generally makes a difference in performance which is interesting even an antec was whoever wrote this article I forget to at the moment but they are not really ends with Ryan Smith is not a hundred percent clear on why this says it could have to do with how each individual vendor event of GPU how optimize their drivers are for single card implementation or something like that but this is kind of unprecedented and we haven't really seen this too much before at all in the world of PC gaming having two dissimilar GPUs working synchronously and actually getting fairly decent results now unfortunately an antec wasn't able unable to show us any kind of results for same card performance in ashes of singularity because the specific benchmark that they were given from the developer oxide was only built with explicit multi-gpu rendering enables that you'd have to get a separate build that included both explicit and implicit GPU rendering which would allow then your more traditional sli or crossfire configurations so again very early alpha testing I mean this isn't even an alpha so again this is all very preliminary and very you know I don't know early early too early to tell if this is a real world representation but it still is interesting because it's the only thing we have to base off as of now and it should still be considered at least with a grain of salt so there's a lot of questions that this brings up as well right so for example which which team or will you know team red or team green which which card or vendors set of technologies are you actually going to benefit from if you have both of them in your system so you know if you have like like in the example if you have a 980 I and a theory x do you only get one or the other do you only get gameworks or you only get gaming evolved or you know do you get free sync or g-sync or does it matter or does the order of the cards that it's being placed in your motherboard does that affect which kind of technologies do you get access to there's a lot of questions here also will you be able to switch your GPU positioning when when having a discrete card with an igp you because this is also supporting integrated graphics so for like a laptop for example DirectX 12 laptop that's fully supported and DirectX 12 game like ashes of singularity if you have an igp you plus a discrete you know mobile GPU or now even a full fully blown desktop GPU inside how do you actually change or will you be able to change the positioning of those GPUs based on their effectiveness and based on the performance gains that you might see from either configuration there's just a lot of things surrounding this what does this mean for AMD and NVIDIA right is this a good thing for for Team Red Team Green you know maybe team Reds excited because means more people are going to start piggybacking on I mean this this is a good result to say that you know the fury X is actually more effective when it in tandem with an IATI then then a tight Nexus I think that is probably a plus for 14 red we can say yeah but again very early to say for sure I would yeah i mean i would also be curious like you know and NVIDIA has been known in the past to block certain things and software with drivers right so you know what they're working with right now might be you know cobbled together drivers or special versions of the software whatever that they're actually testing this with like will nvidia will AMD for that matter be okay with this cross pollution of their products with the competitors products right um when is that something that they might decide to disable via you know via software according to parts in this article it's not really up to AMD or nvidia whether or not this is enabled basically one of the one of the features of DirectX 12 is that it puts multi-gpu rendering in the hands of the developer and no longer in the drivers themselves that's why they're able to actually combine two dissimilar GPUs so it's more so you know it will they try to find a new way to kind of disable it you know is there's always a workaround right maybe there's a way that they can make a distant disadvantageous even though they can't disable it completely but our people even going to want to mix it I'll see you it also like introduces an interesting question would come when it comes to like what kind of system do you want to build for gaming because if we can assume based on this that Intel's integrated graphics with their processors are also going to be a party to this then you might say if you were to get a hand enthusiast processor from Intel that doesn't have an igp you and then you're testing in a Direct X 12 environment that can take advantage of any of the GPUs that are available then you might get better performance with a mainstream processor that has an IG I GPU versus knots you know an enthusiast process that costs 200 or 500 or a thousand dollars right first reward yeah just more money yeah yeah so that that's an interesting question as well I was like the AMD dual graphics when they came out with it it implementation why's it didn't make a whole lot of sense but I'm I liked the idea behind it because you could get that apu and then you add a graphics card and kind of combine them together it was really limited but if Direct X 12 could open that up to make it much more like brand agnostic like you know you could use whatever the heck he wants round you know upgrade your graphics card leave the old graphics card in and get some additional performance that's that's exciting i mean i think it i think it assuming it works you know that broadly ram it's pretty cool but I mean there's there's still a lot of wait and see I think going on too yeah absolutely so uh guys let us know in chat what you think of this whole ordeal personally I don't know if let let us know in chat if you would be willing to crossbreed two different GPUs from Team Red Team Green solely for performance because obviously you know there's the whole ordeal of you know maybe they don't look as complete or they don't sync with each other aesthetically in the same system but if it's a matter of performance you know is that enough to sway your decision into buying both from opposing sides but then also we don't really know what this says until we see the same card benchmarks in this game for the same test yeah because if two gtx 980 is simply outperforms ni a TI and a theory x then you it's kind of a moot point we're not really too concerned anymore so again very early to tell but very interesting nonetheless next up rock band for makers the developers for this game that just launched recently has done very well so far I might add they have been caught posting five star reviews on Amazon they're excited about their product did they not just hear about though did they not just watch awesome hardware last yak when we talk about is on suing like a thousand something clearly they're not followers of the show and they should be punished but here's what happened a bunch of amp amp I'm sorry rock band developers also people who work for the publisher harmonics of the game they posted a bunch of really positive reviews I you know obviously of the game on Amazon 7 reviews to be exact were found by a redditor who was very inquisitive this is hilarious they just use their they use the real names how did they find them out it's because they use the real names but they did actually buy it they're verified owners yeah okay but still there's a little bit of dishonesty here I feel I mean clearly they're biased and Harmonix has already admitted the mistake and they've said sorry and stuff so I don't know this this this just happened and we could probably find some way to turn this into a sword fight of course but this isn't your half of the show and it's not a sword fight so I can't do it damn you for taking that segment I know I hate you it's so good ever since day one it's so good so yeah although all the reviews on rock band 4 that you read online don't trust any of them no I shouldn't say that it's it's just the ones on amazon postage i buy names that happen to also be like listed on linkedin as they work for ya take take seven of the five star reviews and just disregard those cool all right next up we've got a crazy quite literally a crazy mod for GTA 5 yet again the mods just keep pouring in as as I would hope and expect them to this one revolves around the Hulk so you see right here Bruce Banner just looks like a regular dude right and a wifebeater like like Bruce Bennett and then boom I mean I would have liked to see his torn clothes on the ground that would have really added a little bit but you can do some crazy here for example you can jump leap super high in the air and when you land you kind of do an AoE destructive blast around you from the impact which is cool cars go you know up in the air people go flying of course you can run through pedestrians and you can even pick up pedestrians and cars pretty much almost anything in the game that's liftable you can pick it up dumpsters and throw them into other objects as you see fit you can also rip light poles straight out of the ground and just use it as a melee weapon like as a baseball bat you can also derail trains upon collision or jumping there's also a weird kind of Hulk clap that that he does he literally just like claps really loud and it kind of creates a sonic boom that sends anything in front of the Hulk flying into oblivion just ridiculous is a there's some clipping issues here and there but it's a mod yes I'm trying to find him do the clap I found him picking up some cars and throwing them you can name the cars as you would anything that you're holding in Ryan grand theft auto oh he's got the police officer yeah just check the police office through him so hard that it moved the car there's the class that was lap so kind of a nice little impact their lap see ya dad does a little big big boom in front of it boom cool you can also spawn a Hulk enemy they didn't really specify what that meant I'm thinking it's just another Hulk that's AI that you can battle against that'd be cool I didn't show in the video but if you are looking for a challenge you can try taking on a version of yourself nice yeah gives you something to actually fight against yes good idea so go ahead and download that at your own risk because it can be infected with viruses anyway moving on to the next story we've got another fallout 4 story that building a little bit off of Paul's he did briefly mention fallout 4 it was for something somewhat unrelated but we are yet again talking about nvidia here because holla later the same game well yes but I mean what the thing you I'm sorry load for watches on November 10 to 12 I think this 10th I'm it's gonna be available for pre load so you can preload it before it actually launches right yes okay so we are talking about the same game game works fallout 4 is going to feature game works oh boy oh boy now I do have a straw poll to go along with this story because it is a bit of a controversial debate the whole game works issue my question r after that is how does the implementation of game works in a game affect your purchasing decision of that said game so going back I mean remember which are 3 launch as well as project cars there is a big huge controversy with game works being implemented into each of those and how it kind of stifled the performance or was you know allegedly stifling the performance of AMD graphics users where they weren't seeing as high a frame rates as their nvidia or team green counterparts and a lot of people were saying it was kind of a black box solution that was just impossible to work with the developer said it wasn't anything on their end that you know there were some claims and allegations that you know nvidia had purposely made the technologies of gameworks run better or more optimized for for NVIDIA hardware so is this a toxic or is this it you know is this toxic to the gaming industry there's all these questions anyway NVIDIA has aimed to solve some of this by releasing brand agnostic arms I'm sorry for releasing like license licensing for their source code so they're making it a bit more open source than it was before they've made some efforts to kind of appease the the community more or less also in games like Witcher 3 there's now options for you to adjust the setting of your hair works for example so instead of just being completely crushed by enabling game works only having like a simple on/off toggle setting you can adjust the different anti-aliasing or the granularity of the anti-aliasing for hair work so that it's not as taxing you have a bit more flexibility there anyway for fallout 4 it's going to be featuring a lot of these settings from features and game works including ambient occlusion to shadowing and all sorts of different lighting effects and the question I have is is this going to be an issue for a lot of gamers now has nvidia already overstepped their bounds and ruined the reputation of gameworks or has this kind of blown over and no one cares anymore and it's just like if I like the game I'm going to deal with it it's game works i'll get around it I just don't know what where the community lies anymore because it's already been several weeks if not months since since this whole debacle so that's why hence the straw poll I'm curious to know what you guys think and also what also there's another whoa I actually forgot one big point though the minimum requirements for follow for our have been released and they're quite interesting because on one end it says you need a G TX 550 Ti oh that's pretty easy to run the game and on the other hand you've also got a requirement for a radeon HD 7870 that is a much more powerful car than a gtx 550 TI kyle right so does this have any implication to you know or is this any kind of indication that game works is going to once again be affecting or favoring nvidia hardware obviously minimum requirements are just you know sometimes their hair hearsay and they're not always completely relevant or indicative of what kind of hardware you need to run the game but the fact that it lists here you know a team red card that's almost twice as fast as the team green card to run the same game can be a bit concerning for for some you know AMD users but again we'll we'll see how it have it all plays I wait for those benchmarks yeah so speculation right now let's see what the what the straw poll says oh you have it a struggle see what you guys think that game works nobody cares no one cares i could care less yes I'll buy game with or without it indifference is bore I disapprove but I'll still buy it anyway right I had a feeling that would rank pretty high up there as well only a few people who feel it's crippling the industry which I mean yeah you could argue both sides you could argue the side of the of the consumer you know I just want to buy the game that just came out and play it on my hardware and it should play as good as it complain my hardware right whereas on the side of you know if you're looking at a video Randy for that matter I mean it video I think it's gets thing they've done more stuff with game works I think to warrant some of the criticisms they get right but yeah you don't want it to be specially designed just for the one graphics card that had for the series of graphics cards it happens to be the opposite team from the graphics card that you currently have so right but I mean nvidia for their part would say well we're trying to differentiate you know our products we're trying to show here's what here's the benefit you get by going within a video product and stuff like that so right i tend to take the side of the consumer however yeah it's always difficult to wear draw the line but anyway that wraps it up for tech news moving on to our next segment we've got some hot and heavy hardware or if we do to talk about let's see one two three four four items that I wanted to discuss today very exciting the first of which is the MXC rs.100 SSD it is an LED SSD the first of its kind never before seen it actually features a built-in LED accent lighting around it as well as the effexor logo can change colors are actually it doesn't change colors but it does more of a breathing effect you can buy different models in different colors so you guys can buy this war gut according to their video God requested this God has put in a request they started with the Bible Bible quoting God said let there be light and then a vexare but also from the video yes see that's a pretty pretty bold statement of a nice series the exterior has some really cool light up hardware they got the plasma like the like that memory with the plasma on it and all that kind of stuff breath under it's pretty cool looking but ultimately it's just lights you know yeah so performance is pretty much expected it's nothing out of the ordinary it's 544 50 megabytes per second reading rights respectively 80,000 I ops at random 4k right capacities are pretty standard 120 240 and 480 in various LED color options as I mentioned can you tell which of these two one says the LED lights on it that one this one that one's the one on the right that one that's lighting up I didn't even know there was an SSD there so it's to Turk I had no idea like look at the difference this one's lighting up looks thick it looks it looks like it's got way more than that seven or nine millimeters either that's one thing I was going to say it looks it looks a bit fatter than a standard 7 millimeter drive even a 9 millimeter but guess what Paul what if you liked this SSD and you want it to be made and manufactured so you can buy it eventually you can actually support them on IndieGoGo yeah IndieGoGo keza vexer is now an indie company that needs your help I don't know aren't they an established man facture frogs that's what I thought that's what I thought so I was a bit surprised when I saw in this article that they actually have a crowdfunding campaign to raise money for this SSD which doesn't really make sense to me their goal is $50,000 they've only met their reaction about 1,500 a fraction of that and it's been two days I don't know it doesn't seem like first off well your battery's low first off my battery's gonna die and why the hell is a vexer why are they running an IndieGoGo campaign I don't know I don't are they just are they in the like they're not the biggest memory manufacturer out there but they're established I mean they have booths at that they have a they had a booth at computex a guarantee costs more than fifty thousand dollars RG yeah I know like and it had like way more LEDs on it yeah a bunch of there's nothing expensive or cost costly about LED accent lighting so the fact that they're just adding the son of the rest easy I don't know why that's such a big deal I think it's like it's it's a little bit in the way of like you know they wanted to make this product they're tryna get it approved by whoever at the company you know makes that makes the calls on those types of things like no this is going to cost too much investment of money and we don't know that we'll be able to sell them because that's always a concern for something like this so we're going to invest some money and create the products and then the products aren't going to sell well which is a legitimate concern if you're making a standard SATA SSD right now when you know their status these are still very good and very popular and very you know they're all over the place but so maybe it was just one guys into another standard so yeah um it's this to me well clearly no one wants it it reminds me of like a pre-order situation they're looking for pre-orders for this product yeah by people investing in the IndieGoGo and that's a weird way to do it yeah it's a little weird it's a little weird for me I don't know if you're like a hardware startup if you're some dude when an idea for a product and you like made up you know I feel that's more of what IndieGoGo is for right it's for like a person or a small group of people there's a very small company or something so what the reason why I'm not I'm a little hesitant about this is because I don't want this to be the first of many large companies to start following this type of marketing format where you start to see like Corsairs Kickstarter page for like their new strafe keyboard or something like that yeah because I feel like that kind of dilutes what these really great websites are actually for you know independent startup companies that you know have something new to the table that don't have the funding you know what I mean because otherwise they're gonna get buried they're gonna get all these indie companies are going to get buried by companies like a mixer yeah and I don't know I don't think that's cool so I don't know hopefully this this doesn't go anywhere it doesn't look like it is it's pretty sad I mean I you and I could probably have raised more than fifteen hundred dollars in two days from like making sausage like my colleague but we don't know she's a thief from people because we're just two dudes we're not like a established manufacturer of hardware that already sells you know no one has reason to trust our sausage yeah that's the crazy thing okay anyway moving on to the next product this is the NZXT Hugh Nessus or Hewitt I'm gonna call it the Hewitt Hewitt because it's like a tea on the end it sounds cute it's an LED lighting device so you can let up your fancy rig make it out look out glowing glitz in fencing stuff to be the new standard for a pit my pc here yes so it's like a little module it's like about the size of a two and a half inch drive but much thicker it's got an LED accent on it itself you basically plug LED strips into it so they have to be NZXT branded LED strips I believe you can host up to 8 LED strips and you can control the different colors its RGB its RGB can control through the cam software which is also NZXT s you know in-house software that they've created some cool stuff some cool stuff the LEDs can do they can react to changes in your pc thermals so based on you know if your CPU or GPU gets hot I can change color there or different audio levels so we can dance to music essentially and also your FPS your FPS that's what it says okay so if you get really high frame rate your local computer will like turn red if your FPS drops below 30 or something something like that right because you know you're the LED accent lighting in your computer is always the best indication of how your frame rate is this video is pissing me off because it's just a bunch of because it's just a bunch of like super close ups of stuff you have like what the hell is that what is what is what are we looking at right this just colors in my face it's a it's a nerdy ass ups and yeah I'm gonna call it I'm gonna call these types of videos videos because they're really just all for show they don't teach you anything that they're not informative it's just like ooh I candy look at this it looks so sexy that's a video right there video NZXT nice product you heard it first here yeah I mean this is look great i really want with it five requires five volts of DC power connects to your PC via USB i should add and it's going to come in and around sixty dollars USD with it will bore with four strips included that's all you even get a magnetic or an adhesive option so magnetic if you are any case ever or adhesive if you're lian-li or aluminum a Luger case is made of aluminum dude I'm trying to I was trying to think of all the case manufacturers that only do like aluminum I cleanly in win like I can't really think of many others that but only love to do an aluminum case but not that are like almost exclusively right that's what I was trying to go antec this sim aluminum although that's maybe older yeah fact the newer stuff I don't see quite as much with antich know their new s10 that is a balloon it's like thick aluminum okay you could always roseville has some aluminum cases they're sweet movie on asus has come out with a new r9 nano that's it's all white it's a white icing article says because winter is coming winter sis is a perfect a perfect GPU to snuggle up with in the cold cold winter as it does get a little little warm and toasty it's white what do you want it's a nano what do you want for me it's a white frickin man out is there anything at all different aside from it being a white shroud is that there's there's not even any word on a back plate because they don't have any images of the PCB itself oh so we don't know if it's gonna just be a regular PCB your back plated okay end of november release is when you can expect it maybe we'll find out more it's coming sort of soon yeah a little bit in a month or so nocturne kitty says OMFG me want okay I I'm right there with you kitty this does look pretty sexy will say if you definitely save you the time and hassle it would take to spray paint your own r9 fury nano if you were interested in modding it in the given color indeed but yeah good on good on a cs4 for switching it up a bit you know not everyone's into the red and black theme that asus even themselves have prided themselves on I'm saying all the same words now I saw I saw JJ posting some sweets of this earlier but I don't think he posted any pictures of the back of it mm-hmm and then I think did Josh Shevlin Josh fractal John yeah he's building a system I sound tweeting about building a system but I don't know / have one uh yeah he does oh it's a light it's the Lightning line is a 979 7970 right yeah 970 turbo interesting so he's doing in all white belt cuz i saw the define our five white right there I'm doing it always oh that's not fair you are he has a defined our five in my that was JJ that was a JJ post yeah okay but that's gotta be what Josh you Jesus oh yeah you're right I don't know 260 600 k he's doing gigabyte Z 1 70 n gaming 5 motherboard which is red in black so well maybe it's not white I don't know red black and white yeah okay well he's not copying me completely okay that's okay that's good um what we're talking about the asus wait AMD that's all i have to say about that in our name now it looks cool cool bien all right moving on to the next story corsair of course their strengths strafe RGB just repeat them RGB this this is easy this is noisy this is fun with silent cherry MX switches this is going to also be I'm gonna save this a lot on this episode but it's true first of its kind again to utilize the new cherry MX silent switches simply called cherry MX silent alright that's pretty sure so so what what is the main feature of these switches you might ask they're really loud they make so much noise they can be heard from your way to announce to other people that you are there because the people the folks at cherry have a sense of humor and irony no that's not true at all okay they're supposed to be there engineered to be up to thirty percent quieter when I hate about this article is that it doesn't say what how much doesn't say what they're quieter then there are thirty percent quieter than what if they're quieter than Browns it's not much quiet exactly there no no if they aren't fire in the drummer is that's a good indication if they're quieter than like and blue MX greens and yeah greens then right so hmm hmm hmm um how do they do this no there's no rubber o-rings they're not using o-rings that's for the plebs yo cherry MX silence which is using demonstrate this what are you doing here leave oh okay so we have the graph right here we totally plan this this is a new cherry MX sound switch right here you can see it's much quieter doesn't make any noise tip and soft and then you basically are here here's the deal it uses a patented fully integrated noise reduction system that's built into every key okay so no rings it's just completely built in natively greatly reducing the bottoming out and the spring back noise that's the spring and you also do you also do get the tactile feel although there was no mention of of whether or not there's gonna be that bump if you look right oops I'm sorry lightly brush my nipple there sorry this has the switch is so pitch allure so tantalizing and of course other than that you're going to get full RGB lighting a single USB 2.0 custom key caps for fbsm oba hundred Oh 160 that's right it's not 10 keyless quick de pena here's a picture of it again yes courser has an exclusive on these that I know right and it is a little bit of a different design than the current boards the strafe get some texture and some of the keys there and that kind of thing yeah interesting yeah it comes with custom key caps for you know your WASD standard qwe are corsair goes through a lot of cherry switches yes they do they tend to pop the cherry they go through like an obscene amount of cherry swishes yes they do it's crazy ah that's pretty much all i have to say for hot and heavy hardware so we can go ahead and move on to our next segment let's see ever so popular okay my pc ooh the blatant ripoff segment from matt philly at squash and TV his his show pimp my setup is really great and it's better than ours because it came first he actually created it and then we ripped him off because that's how we roll here at awesome hardware that go ahead and check him out if I case should update our lower thirds forfeit my pc yeah i think people are sorry this room working for you like what the hell the hell does that mean there's ostriches oh come on it's it's brilliant this is an internet it all makes sense starting off with skull chula skull chula just called sculptural I hunter he has a 3570k based system at 4.2 gigahertz a 750 ti and h80 liquid cooler eight gigs of ram right RGB colour changing / white theme what case is this this is a striker striker no no it's not striker would have a scout it's a scam storm scout that's small yes gets scattered white yeah it is RGB this it is it's a Hail it's an NZXT power supply to hail 80 well you know the fans are rgb2 up top it looks like they aren't or a GV right they look that will they look like they're moldy i'll definitely multi-colored up on top it's gonna cool so basically you've just got like a party going on here it is a party a bit of a rave there's there's no real like hardcore color scheme here because I think you've just designed this case to be flexible or the system to be flexible with the RGB LEDs everywhere but internally your components wise you've got blue memory within your RAM actually has blue LEDs on that so I mean unless your RAM LED accents were RGB as well it's kind of difficult to match that with every other color on the spectrum you've also got a white power supply and a white rim it looks like or going around your radiator fan for that course air cooler so white very neutral the thing that the great thing about having a white case and and RGB LEDs is that the white will just reflect any color that you assign the LEDs to yeah so you can kind of have any color system you want any time but when you throw in the blue LEDs on the RAM for instance it kind of throws that off a little bit becomes a bit more noticeable so that's probably the one thing that I would say aesthetic wise if you wanted to really have that flexibility granted if you wanted to be blue and you wanted a blue theme there's probably no better ram than those sticks that you have in there already yeah as as we usually say with the pin my pc could use a little bit of work on the cable management it's not bad by any stretch and you've got some white cable extensions on there these could just be cinched up they could be a little bit totter maybe consider even a cable comb if you want to look really nice both the 24-pin and your your six pin for your graphics card there they could just be cinched up a little bit more I also noticed your fan is facing up on the power supply which isn't bad it's probably just fine I would have faced it down in this case because you do have a you have a direct you know there's this analyst ventilation down there so um you would you allow it to pull in a fresh air from outside the case rather than pulling in warmer air from inside and also that kind of leaves leaves your power supply open to just sucking in any kind of little screws or anything this might fall into it I've had that happen before the power supply is mounted up and you know your undoing the radiator your fans whatever at the top of your case and just like a screw slips happens all the time and follow straight into your power supply you got to shake it out take the whole system and put it upside down to get out of there so if you have the if you have if you have a case that can handle it go ahead and flip it other than that nice looking system I think functionally looks really well Oh what Mother of Jesus what mother of Jesus I just saw some what happened look at the top of the hard drive cage what is that what is that the others an apple looking that is an apple sticker that is a sneaky mother of God maybe it's a hackintosh mmm-hmm what no I just want to be dramatic look I got I got nothing against well stickers sticker to fight his way I look at it like if you're at all if you're an all Apple user and you buy all the Apple pre-made products and everything that's fine it works for you sure sure you know no problem no problems there but you know if you want to build a computer and make a hackintosh and load Apple's operating system onto it it's actually like can be more challenging than building just a standard computer with the windows or linux even for that matter right right so I don't I try not to hate on the on the hackintosh a--'s and the people who throw with a focus in there although chad is Chet Chet would just prove strong that is disagreeing with me strongly right now but I mean that's what what can I say yeah look if you're buying your own hardware any building you own systems and you should have the freedom to use whatever software you I agree and I will say that if it if this is if this is a hackintosh build then it makes a lot more sense yes it would all right thank you very much skull chua for sending that system in go ahead and hopefully you'll survive the rest of the show with chat on your ass now next system we've got is from ken ken thank you for sending this magic gear on Twitter logic gear yes we've played several games together and Ken's awesome guy got a 46 90k yes znat 7 gaming 5 gtx 760 superclocked eight gigs of sniper gd-r gd-r ddr3 memory from g.skill right and i always got the pc part picker link there too so we'll look at that in just a second but Kyle any immediate thoughts from the build overall so first off this is actually a pretty clean-looking system cable management is actually not something I need to really point out here everything looks really clean if I'm getting really nitpicky I I do see that there's a kind of a fan cable that's that's going drooping down from your rear exhaust that looks like it's going to a port that's near your cpu cooler up here which I guess can be routed a little bit more cleanly or in the very top left there's also a cable that's kind of coming from the corner there but again super nit picky here color coordination is good I think there are some things that you can do to spice it up if you really wanted to you could get some black and red sleeved cables if you know if you're not in the if you're if you're not willing to actually spend the time to create your own custom cables because it is very time-consuming you can check out cable mod they they kind of customize it for you as well or mainframe customs will actually do some really high intelius leaving for you that you can pretty much tell them exactly what you want and then because I think there's a lot of potential for more integration of red because you have you already have a lot of red accents on your motherboard but nothing else in the case really stands out as as such so maybe having some red cables in there I would probably take off the power supply EVGA g2 power supplies are really reliable and I like them a lot are you but they're still be looking at the single picture on Twitter yes there's like five really good pictures on the pc / Picard link are there yeah are they he's getting he's got blue LEDs in sight for example are they all are they different from what I'm seeing yes oh this is it I've been showing them to chat sorry there's blue LEDs inside which is I have to assume those are blue there's a chance they're white but I think they're blue they're only white if the cameras acting weird or something like that again with these cleaner pictures your cable management looks really nice looks good with the side panel on love the derp squad sticker on your sticker always representing yeah but but still everything I said go like you say to plug on one of your hard drives is about to pop out that's my only feedback this could just be a little loose justices a little crooked yeah it's probably still works though but other than that man other than you know spicing it up with some cables may be upgrading your cooler in the future if you're going to be doing some more heavy overclocking something that looks a little bit more but with a with a hyper 212 you've got ninety ninety-five percent of anything you're going oh yeah of course I just mean on like the aesthetics front honestly this is a really good solid build I wouldn't change much Thank You logic here next up we've got all of our other Oliver I love a twist Oliver toad Oliver Oliver toad Oh phone he duct-taped the psu logo and he has a build log on PC part picker nice all right nice thank you for also taking lots of good pictures with the ample lighting here just taking a glance at the interior the main section of your system there's a lot of work that can be done with the cables the one that stands out to me the most actually two of them is the one that's going right over your cpu cooler you could easily route that around it because it just looks really nasty going straight over the fan blades and also it's probably not the best idea just in case you know somehow the cable gets pushed in it gets snagged on on that fan I mean it's a pretty sharp Finn because it's a smaller blade and it has to spin faster rpms I've gotten nicked a couple times on intel stock coolers so probably not the best idea to have the the cable right in front of it just looks a little a little messy as well also the rear exhaust fan again there's just this droopy cable that could be routed you know you can actually zip tie a good portion of excess cable from from any cable in your case really and kind of tuck it away I usually for the rear exhaust I like to zip tie my cable as short as possible and then put it stick it behind the actual fan so you can't see it and then I route it through like you know the Rio Rio you know if I can between like the intel gigabit ethernet and not important this red arrow is pointing at what is the red arrow pointing at I'm confused halation these are hex is a hex Vince I'm really not sure all right also bear mine you're looking at the one of the build log pictures there's no graphics card in there yet ah God what's cards comes in there later let's see oh wow there's a lot of hunters here I will say you have lots of room on your desk and don't put your computer on the floor yeah even though it's kind of clean down there either get it something that puts it a couple feet up above a little stand or something a little bookshelf for something to pop that up on make a shelf on the wall put it up there or just put it on top of the desk because there's lots of room on top of the desk that yeah definitely yeah looking at these other pictures that Paul pointed out it does look a lot cleaner and you've got a pretty strong you know black and black and blue theme going on here deepcool case too we don't see a deep pools pretty big company but I don't see a whole lot of their cases around yeah maybe more popular in the Eastern countries but thank you very much for that Oliver I love a toad next up we've got spunky chickens spunky chickens let's see if his rig is as spunky as his name with a flickr album flickr good old flickr so we got the shot of the desk desk shot looks pretty clean there I like the wooden basketball hoop game game wow this is the same case he's me just saying don't see many deep cool cases why exact one no yeah my goodness what are the odds that is crazy to conspiracy next week on conspiracy theories right so why is there a picture of money we are kind of missing here's here's kind of a wide shot of the case alright a power supply mmm there's some serious cable management issues going on here that could be resolved by wreak abling yeah I also see that your computer is sitting just right on the carpet fit which I was about to say maybe flip that power supply but don't if you're keeping your computer in the carpet right there don't leave a power supply of the van face up firewood please please get a just get a piece of plywood get something yeah I mean you look a few books yeah books at the carpets look like really you wanted a couple feet off but but but I mean if you can just get a piece of plywood under there it will provide much if you do that when if you look here Paul looks like he was just putting it on the carpet for the picture-taking okay because look at this picture I don't know he's not flicker works he's got it he's got it in a little shelf on its on a piece of others a little shelf all right that's that's player it's still really low though you're still gonna pull away more dust into the system you're gonna have to clean out the dust in that right to three months earlier than you might have otherwise oh that's nice I hate these stupid ads so lending should show me pictures of money we know you're poor they put the anyway just just rip out the power supply and get a new one yeah and rewire everything watch my video on cable management there's a bunch of other good ones too yeah clean your computer yeah overall it's functional but um I mean this is this actually look at the look at toads wait what suppose his name toad friendly toad Oliver toad all of your toes look at our Oliver totes build cuz he's got the same cases you and different he's got he's got some pretty decent cable management going on there some stuff up he's used to space behind the behind the motherboard tray yes use todos a good example cool thanks okay for that one one more here this is samuel n ste know you're gonna say samuel jackson say no I say oh we're so honored to have you or Sam droid um alright he's build needs a name guys in chat can we help can we help Sam out with a name for his build this is a fractal divine define our five and FX 8320 a hyper 212 evo cooler asus m5a97 motherboard two-by-four get crucial kits and a gigabyte looks like a gtx 950 7 i'm sorry 750ti graphics card right so and it looks like he's in a defined our five wait no GPU is an msi ar9285 our for that was weird that's definer 5y there to the power supply looks scary how come here it says gigabyte GV n 750 OC and over here it says wait anyway all right oh it was easy a power supply oh is that I was looking at the motherboard nothing yeah okay now yeah so honestly if you had just swapped out all the cables for black ones it would look like the little doll the overall look of your system would go from like a fifty-dollar rig to like a thousand-dollar rig I mean that's how just that's just how cheap ketchup and mustard cables make the system look yeah if you just had nice black sleeps cables in there or white or blue any three of those colors would work by the way it would just instantly up the value of the entire system and also people are calling it the melting pot okay called or crayola crayola Pink Panther pulse call it I'm offended about destructor the merciless just pretty good one looks wicked aim the heat blaster like that Medusa takes cables everywhere don't look it in the eye um apart from that maybe get some some nice blue memory sticks get some effects Ursula memory kit some of exes yeah but the blue plasma the plasmon said that is right now you've got those nasty green you know I mean they're functional but they're just nasty they're all green yep yeah most of the visual issues with this build I think come down to the cabling on this power supply which is an ocz power supply ocz doesn't make power supplies anymore they made some okay ones when they did make them but um they also made some bad ones which got them a bad rap swapping that power supply out or all the cables and then that SATA cable like I said I think would be a huge difference then the memory again is functional it stand out that much but that would be the next step I think yeah getting that memory swept up thank you very much Samuel and that's going to conclude pimp my pc for tonight folks we've got one more segment which is Q&A Cui's nazy's as always we take your questions and give you subpar answers as we always do yes we put this at the end of the show so that we're tired and that we just say whatever pops into our heads yes first question is from Adam JP tech he probably didn't even know he was asking a question whoo it is hyper x Ram food yes i have got it yes it is taste delicious it is and doesn't come out well though it's also non-volatile so it makes you know it's easy on the stomach comes out fast not about 1600 megahertz wait now it's volatile memory nevermind I was wrong about that tried to make it I was a noble effort Jeremy joke it just fell face ok um those questions questions in chat uh-huh nice jeans no one's asking questions what's easy looks sad liquid vs. air lately I've been leaning towards air I I can't say air because i have a water-cooled system i mean i have a full water cool time either but that's like it's like it's a separate are you you know like something like that of course you have the time and the spare money and and everything to invest when a liquid cooled system it's awesome and it's a lot of fun and it's a challenge and you learn things and all that stuff so that's great but when it comes down to just like i'm building a system should i get an air cooler or a liquid cooler given in practically speaking spending 30 to 50 bucks on an air cooler which gets you 95% to the performance of a liquid cooler and lets you overclock usually just the exact same amounts and then you don't have to deal with the potential of like leaks or like the pump dying or anything like that yeah air cooling is just simpler more cost-effective and everything but um you know if you're if you're looking for the best and you know you want you want to build a super sweet system and you want to have that liquid cooling and be able to tell people look it's my water-cooled processor you're like the way it looks or something and I mean it's not like you get nothing out of it liquid cooling is more efficient it'll cool your processor down more you might be able to overclock a little bit more but again if you have a good air cooler chances are you're going to be limited by the overclocking capabilities of your processor or your graphics card if you're talking about that around more so than your ability to cool off fast enough true Saturn's rings coca-cola or dr. pepper coca cola dr. pepper will you guys come to pdx land if not this time around some other time haphazard damage ass I'm not gonna be able to make it this time it's like next week right yeah yeah but that would be an event I'd like to go to next year this year's like the first year that we've both been independent and I've kind of been focusing on it just a couple main events that i've tried to go to write next year I want to try to go to some more like land events community events that kind of thing Texan ticket is setting up the land a big line up and I think it's in seattle in april and i'm going to definitely try to go that one nice if invest in gaming mouse or gaming keyboard ooh good question honestly if if they're both equally and you're in equal need of either or at sidmouth i would say a depends on how bad i would say mouse because for the longest time when it came to keyboards and people are asking like what keyboard should i get the answer was a fifteen dollar rubber dome keyboard that was all don't matter what brand just get a fifteen dollar keyboard because that's all you need and it works just as fine and it's just as fast and functionally does everything exactly the same as a mechanical keyboard mechanical keyboards have a different feel yes they will last longer but not necessarily to warrant spending a hundred dollars versus 15 right five fifteen dollar keyboards will probably last just as long as one hundred dollar mechanical keyboard so yeah for that reason I take it to mouse because the mouse is the mouse I mean you get more out of like the precision of the laser the optical sensor that you get you might have more buttons that you can put on there but yeah I think you can get by more easily with the 15-dollar keyboard then with osito amount house that's true yeah yeah pc building and chill yes oh yeah every night how goes the steam controller the named a nation s I've been using it here and there I've had a pretty good time with it so far definitely there's definitely a learning curve to it and I need to use it more to get more used to it but um as a living room option because you can use it to control the mouse it's nice it's convenient it's good good to have that I think it's a nice addition to the repertoire it's not for everyone some people it's going to piss off but I think for people are willing to like sit and use it for a while and kind of get used to where the buttons are and how it reacts and all that stuff I think it's pretty good controller and fifty bucks wireless you know plug-and-play works with windows all right I think it's pretty decent it's MK plays as do i get cable extensions for custom modded for custom modded ones or do i buy full-length modded custom sleeve cables dependence of the power supply that you're working with yeah some power supplies will like some manufacturers are to the point where they offer cable kits you can buy specifically if you have a fully modular power supply if you want to be safe either get get different cables directly from the manufacturer you bought it for or just get extensions I would never I mean I don't know it's I just I wouldn't really I wouldn't risk buying new modular cables from anywhere other than the manufacturer yeah if they cross a line or something like that the great thing about extensions is that you can use them from power supply to power supply yeah so they're pretty much good I mean that universal connection isn't going to change no you're both safe on that better investment Lord mustang gts are we doing after show yes we are a no in fact actually has a question how you gonna do I'm going to go ahead and post it in chat right now the question is what game should we play tonight yeah there's a couple options Paul is gonna be playing from my house we are going to have dinner really quick after we end the show and then we're going to go ahead and jump into a game so go ahead and let us know which game you want us to play we've got options like rocket League GTA 5 lovers in a dangerous space-time which we played a couple times a few weeks back as well as brawl holla which is a game that i recently picked up last night actually been playing that a little bit here and there super fun so far it's like a super smash brothers l type of i wouldn't say it's a clone it's kind of on its own then you'll probably kick my ass at it ah but that's okay probably but yes yes if you guys want to see ask is paul got his ass beat in that game go ahead and vote for that one but yes this is also subject to being overruled so you might be like oh I want you to play GTA 5 and will still say no they don't feel like it so this is just really to make you feel like you have an illusion of choice anyway I think that's pretty much all we have to say for the show no thank you guys for joining us for episode 36 go ahead and hit that like button if you enjoyed it again check out Paul Paul top of the show on his channel pulse hardware and we love you guys akin to the after party for watching this live if not check us out on Tuesdays five-thirty p.m. pacific time awesome twitch.tv / awesome hardware and we'll see you guys next week