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oh you don't think he gives me heart attacks oh I'm sure it's a cousin or he's lying right there in the pathway why is she doing that so like he like weaved through the camera and under here where there's cables everywhere because he doesn't care he's just a large dog and he's like I will go there and we can't like put him in the room closed door cuz he'll literally just tear through the door probably you probably you're live streaming YouTube started and like right in the middle of that explanation so oh it might not make much sense but we are live that's okay all right so um welcome to the show guys sorry we're late if you guys are used to watching us on a weekly basis then that probably doesn't faze you too much you're probably used to it but we have a mediocre show planned for you guys today we'd have not done much show prep I'll be honest it's a light ship it's gonna be a light show it's like the Tech Talk version of awesome hardware is what we're going and that is not an insult no I respect every view I'm very good I have a good flow you know just not plan anything you'll never have to plan anything which is brilliant they're like they're like the poster child for like fuck it we'll do it live type of things so that's what we're gonna try today we do have stuff planned though we do have some stuff planned it's not just because we hate everything and we don't want to do the show it's mainly because we had a bunch of other stuff to take care of before Thanksgiving week it's Thanksgiving week there's it's a lot of chaos and commotion both for our channels as well as each of our families everywhere around the world people are preparing for Thanksgiving and all the nations I don't know it's an American home yeah even even Canada Canadia has a different Thanksgiving Canadian Thanksgiving yeah but it's not it's very similar but it's like Canadian bacon which is ham the only difference between Canadian Thanksgiving is that they're just more thankful than we are and they're they're so thankful they're almost like they feel bad about it so they apologize yeah sorry's giving but anyway what was I saying this is episode 85 live show in case you guys are new here not at all and I do every single Tuesday at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time we streamed the show into two halves the first half this week is on my twitch channel which are TV slash bigwig Kai and then after we get to channel oh yes no it's my it's my my twitch channel is bit with Kai I know but we're not streaming to your twitch channel right now we're not we're streaming to awesome hardware oh yeah you're right you're right god hey I drink enough beer and your YouTube chin and my YouTube judge good lord okay so let me start that over this is a live show that we do every week we split them into two halves it's gonna be on awesome hardware on Twitch a hundred percent of the time we won't ever cut unless we like have some technical difficulties on YouTube however we split that up into two halves the first half this week is on my youtube channel which is youtube.com slash c / bit wit and then we're gonna take a break a short short intermission so Paul and I can both probably pee or something or get more beer and then we're gonna go to Paul's YouTube channel which is youtube.com slash Paul's hardware that is correct that yeah yes got it right on the scene like what I don't pregame as much I feel like I just my flow is gone I lose my mojo I'm not coherent it's like you know I need the alcohol time to really make sex you should have a beard and you're right Paul why don't we do that now because we actually have delicious spirits to drink you're still working on I'm still working on my pre-show I'm sort of getting over just a tiny bit of a head cold so I'm gonna take it slightly easy tonight which is why I'm only drinking it's 10% Porter after this title starting off with the Sequoia red ale Sequoia red this is from current River Brewing Company I was actually in Burnsville not too long ago for my for my and my actually my wife's really oh yeah so we went to Korean ville I was there for the first time and our Airbnb was directly across the street from her in river brewing up in Kern County yep they got some good beer there in that Brewing Company the only craft beer over near in yo Kern in Ukraine so I'm checking out of the pols hardware mug which what do we owe ya like what a transition there yeah I know wait oh so that's the problem here right so do me will do mine first you yes cat was drinking out of a Paul's hardware English pub glass which you can purchase for yourself at Paul's are brunette if you'd like to help support what we do on our YouTube channels yeah I also have lots of other shirts some mugs new stuff is the tri-blend shirts and a different few different varieties oh my gosh the organic cotton beanies are sold out those were popular I do have more of those coming in so if you were interested in one of those they're really cool there'll be more of them soon I also do decals and some ladies step them everywhere shirts yes gals calsters bit wit tech slash store yeah and I've got two new designs well actually I guess one design that I've slapped onto three different items the first of which is a t-shirt so this is the tri-blend it's very nice super sexy I saw disturbed I don't know if you just disturb medic James and we play each one's dealing with a lot he treated me a picture of him wearing that shirt it looks freaking fantastic guys those are new also if you want the more classic cotton black-and-whites that's there too and because it's cold usually in most parts of the world that aren't Southern California you can also get that in a hoodie version black and white basic moves hoodies woo 45 bucks the quality is quite good and we have a nice selection like if you like the hoodie with the with the pouch in the front for the hands you know cows got you covered there if you want the zippered one I have those over on my store and where you beanie ferny I guess it's cool enough right now in your garage to to rock it I can't do beanies personally because I have so much hair and it just like traps all the heat I have I have the logo kind of offset here at a jaunty angle makes you look a little bit look like you're gonna rob a house or something yeah rob a bank you can also put a dead center if you want I don't know where do you want the screw wait should this group this group looks better off to the side maybe because it's like it's still visible from people who are like looking at you straight on but it's not like in your face like notice the screw screw you and it's organic so it kind of gives you a like a sense of superiority it's non-gmo gluten-free the other thing that I wanted to mention as far as announcements go I think this is our last one is that we are hosting a giveaway starting tomorrow oh yeah we've been kind of teasing this and mentioning it on Twitter and stuff and also in some recent video updates but we made a shit ton of money from selling a bunch of hardware that we needed to get rid of we liquidated our assets as Paul said and there's all the cash those are all Hondo's of course when you see the hundo in the front that automatically means all the bills behind it must also be hundos so we're rich now we're rich bitch but what we're gonna be doing with this cash is giving it away to you guys at least a good chunk of it so stay tuned for details tomorrow the first place corner will win a thousand of those dollars one grand one grand second place winner yes we're including two winners to this giveaway so you have twice the chance of winning theoretically the second-place winner will win $500 and that's just straight cash PayPal giveaway International everybody it's gonna be good starts tomorrow after we released the video that we'll be posting to both of our channels it's actually the same video that you'll be seeing on either of our channels but you should watch both of them just to give us the ad revenue while you wait list us on at blocker and so um but that is all I have to say for announcements so why don't we get into the short news segment that I have planned here which is the first topic Emmis I just released or they announced I should say this GTX 10:50 TI GPU yeah okay it's already been out who cares but this one's kind of cool it's low profile and if you look at it you can immediately see what they're talking about here it's low profile from a width standpoint so it's actually a half slot PCI PCI slot is that like home half length or half length or half half height half height F height PCI slot thank you Paul which is kind of like you don't see those too much anymore on modern cases for like enthusiasts and stuff but you do see them quite a bit on like older pre-built desktops so like the HP pavilions and things like that they usually only have a lot of them have 1/2 slot PCI expansion slots which you could not fix a typical gtx 1050 TI or any modern GPU for that matter high end GPU in one of those desktops and a lot of the times you know games are heavily GPU or graphically intensive on the video card side not so much the cpu so even if you have like not the highest-end pre-built desktop that you use for like Microsoft Word and stuff dropping in a entry level video card can actually give you quite some quite a decent amount of gaming performance especially now with the possibility of having 1/2 slot card 1050 Ti which both Paul and I have done reviews and stuff on has proven to be a pretty capable little card for the hundred fifty bucks or so that you pay for it yeah so I think this is also coming in at around one hundred and thirty nine ninety nine speculated it's run on the same stock speeds and reference video outputs which is not a bad thing they do have all three of the video outs on their DVI HDMI and DisplayPort yeah I mean and one of the key features of the 1050 Ti is instead of really low TDP said it's a very power efficient card so there's actually no PCI Express port that you have to worry about on here that's the one concern about sticking in even a mid-range or even some low end GPUs inside of a prebuilt is that often times your power supply won't be able to support even a 6 pin PCI connector so with this it goes straight into the motherboard it receives all of its power directly through the PCIe slot 75 Watts rated and you're good to go so you have to worry about or even you know potentially getting like the molex to PCIe connector for your power supply so I see I see a pretty viable option for I mean if you look at something like a node - OH - like fractal you know there any of those very slim mini ITX cases that are a little bit taller cuz you know if they usually have the motherboard and CPU in one section and then usually rise a card or a ribbon cable for the graphics card further down but you could now do like a mini ITX so many ITEX boards even have like an external power brick and then you know if you've got PCIe a PCI Express slot then you can do like you know a build you can can a scratch build something or maybe maybe there I'm sure there are cases also for half fight cards like that but yeah be cool to do a gaming system is something like that that you build yourself and can upgrade versus I mean there's there's other options in that range you know like so tech there's a lot of little mini PCs and stuff like that yeah a lot of time they you know they're they're integrating like the GPU onto the custom like motherboard or something like that to fit it all in there but yeah cool yeah it's up some possibilities there so stay tuned for that in case that's your you're in that sort of boat the next story on our list is about Netflix I just saw this at the top of the the front page on the hardware subreddit about Netflix requiring some outlandish things to stream video playback at 4k so what is exactly what exactly is Netflix requiring their users to have hardware wise and software wise in order to stream things like gilmoregirls o 4k which was a huge emphasis in this article they really want to emphasize that gilmoregirls is gonna be streamed and available in 4k for all of you hardcore jiejie fans or yeah that's Gigi Gigi um so all about the G so the first thing that you're gonna need to stream 4k if you want to get on that bandwagon is Windows 10 so anyone who's on an operating system that's other than that isn't that gonna be able to do it which already kind of hints at some DRM agencies but I think most people right now who have pcs are either on Windows 10 or have the ability to upgrade without much cost to them they're probably gonna want to upgrade to Windows 10 eventually once you know support for 8.1 so it's getting phased out but that's that's a requirement which I'm like I mean it kind of sucks because I'm so on Windows 8.1 myself on hotline and I know you are on arctic panther I know you're not but because I have dumb I am on Windows 10 everywhere except with HTPC you can just do on windows 7 because it uses the Windows Media Center for for DVR stuff okay so but any any anyone else you like I know Joker productions he's very adamant about not dinner keys my keys oh yeah bottle opener on your keys yes there's like you're gonna need to take your car first what's the emergency so um like I'm saying like I know Jeff productions there's also a guy who's like very adamant about not upgrading to Windows 10 he's like no screw that things working perfectly fine for me right now on 8.1 so I can get the frustration for some users who are still on that operating system who would like to stream stuff on 4k but even even if I wanted to Paul even if I did upgrade to Windows 10 and it because I wanted to I still could not stream 4k Netflix you know why because the other requirement I didn't really give you enough time to yeah you thought you were gonna you know yeah I apologize take a shot in the dark so the other requirement that they're putting on users is that you have to have a KB Lake processor so that's I mean that's something that none of us have right now I mean so that's it's impossible to watch Gilmore Girls yeah on Netflix in 4k what is easy to do with yourself with that nobody can GG so that's right right now the only actually that's not sure you can buy it you can get a KB like process here in a laptop I was gonna say the only device right now is device that supports I just completely ignore those yeah knowledge that does exist so the only thing that the only device right now that fits the bill that has Windows 10 and a KB Lake processor that's listed on Microsoft's website anyway is the Lenovo yoga 9 10 so hey if you want a stream if you really need your for kgg fix that badly just go get a yoga 910 spend you know $1,100 on that or whatever it costs and and it's totally worth it but wait there's more pulp because there's one more requirement that you need in order to stream 4k Netflix which is the most ridiculous of them all Microsoft edge you need to use the edge browser alright I'm canceling my order how much how much is I was pretty close I said 1,100 it's a thousand forty nine a thousand fifty thousand one one thousand fifty if you buy directly from the Lenovo it's website if you want the friends though they're just the latest Windows 10 update gives you like puts the goddamn edge look like I keep removing it from the tray yeah puts it back again also keeps putting goddamn candy crush back on the computer so I don't blame Joe Kerr at all for doing this like those of us who have upgraded haven't we can bitch about it and then the edges that's like a little pop-up like little things like you did you know and you can do some bullshit with Pinterest I don't what you you weren't supposed to be there it's so intrusive like yeah it really is if I've really gone and removed it Microsoft and like done all that stuff for for the edge browser that I just I don't want to use it right now you know do you think really a Windows Update that puts it back and suddenly does some annoying as shit as oh maybe I should give it a try like now that you mention it very aggressively and without my permission I think I might be interested yeah no thanks so that is a huge clusterfuck of requirements that Microsoft has not said or Netflix has not mentioned why that is why those requirements are in place but we can assume or speculate Gilmore Girls fans are just hardcore they will it doesn't matter thank you think you'd be and also your firstborn child must be sacrificed yes something I got back I gotta have my okay sorry it's it's it's the new phenomenon that's replacing crack cocaine everyone sweeping the nation is a new epidemic called Gilmore Girls in 4k but the articles saying these requirements are likely due to hardware based DRM which and HEV C decoding features which I guess makes the most sense out of all of this because nothing else does which is quite a shame I'm gonna go it's my phone because that's discord I mean I like disable notifications from that discord on your phone I said you future but what the fuck Netflix I guess they are in bed officially with my but there's there's other 4k programming like available on Netflix right like you've been able to stream Netflix 4k this isn't this isn't like the 4k debut I don't know I mean I don't have a 4k TV unlike some people I just got one I'm making a video and I got I got a great deal via slick deals and I got it at Target it was less than 800 it was after tax and everything it was like seven hundred and eighty or seven hundred and ninety dollars for 65 inch for K LG TV I helped him set it up today it's pretty nice actually I deal was ridiculous like I couldn't not get it you'd be losing money if you didn't buy that I don't know something about something about slick deals when when you see the fire icon you like I have to buy whatever that I don't care it's like I believe I believe Austin Evans because he always uses the fire emoji so strategically and it's like conditioned me to think that anything that has a fire emoji next to it must be amazing must be hot thanks Austin okay okay so what's next next up is a donation really quick automatic tech everybody I was doing the transition right as you started talking about the next thing we got the donation cycle are handing us money literally putting money in our hands it's amazing automatic tech five dollar donation thank you very much which is better for gaming at for half speaking of 4k which is better for gaming at 4k on a 4k freesync monitor to rx4 80s on with crossfire as written strangely or a gtx 1070 so i would say go for 4k well now the two Rx for 80s are probably going to out for outperform at just 1017 I disappear with whatever you in in a lot of the stuff but the 1070 is gonna provide a more consistent gaming experience because scaling with the multi-gpu setup is it's not reliable it can theoretically get you higher frame rates than a single faster card sometimes but then other times it won't sand sometimes games don't scale at all or they don't support crossfire so what I would say is buy the most expensive GPU the fastest GPU that you can afford and work your way up from that because right the man says he has a free sync monitor you want to take advantage of precinct yeah here's what you should do get one 480 right now wait for me wait one or two months hopefully not more than that one or two maybe three months for AMD to release their top-end stuff which is supposed to be happening I mean I really hope they don't push it back more than one two three months but you'll be fine with the 484 now turn some settings then don't play at 4k play it plate 1440 or something like that what if he already has a 4k monitor he just he says that he says he has that was the premise of the question didn't say he had one which is better for gaming at 4k on a 4k freesync monitor that's the basis of the question that is the foundation yes the foundation but yeah he hasn't we haven't verified ownership okay don't already have this all right if you already have a more capable the freezing monitor then that is what I would say to do get a 40 now and upgrade to whatever their top end card is yeah no for the Vegas play 1080 for a while until Vega comes out yeah okay come suit oh my god pub Shepherd sorry I forgot upset they what take that question very seriously well you you were telling him misinformation nope how about information misinformation it was clearly wrong no I did not say anything like that I said by the fastest GPU you know which I don't know I guess big it could be that know your information was good in general I was I was honing in on the free sink thing and it needs us like I'd hate to say I have somebody said I had this really nice free sink monitor and I did not say I did not tell him to get an Nvidia card though I said by the fasces GPU but they made him board yep had you let me finish I could have completed the thought but you know like right now that's like if you're gonna polish my 480 or wait for the next gen stuff to come out cuz I mean I guess you could I guess alright you can go about getting on your own a fury and r9 fury don't get the fury X like I don't know if you can get a good deal on an iron in fury that made another good option okay yeah all right pup Shepherd really quick $20 donation thank you very much sir I sent Kyle a package was it your package have a drink on me I'm a drink um we are gonna be doing mail time my half of the show so if you send anything and I have a lot of theirs they're all back here behind us did you get did you receive anything from a pup Shepherd I I don't I don't know that's I believe that is an Internet not real name I feel like that's how we should all address our mail though too it's like whatever your username is online they should smell so much also how you should like write your return address and stuff I've also I've also wondered many times as pup Shepherd does that mean he Shepherds doglike puppies like little puppies is he a shepherd of heirs his name pup and he is a shepherd or is this last name of Shepherd well maybe he's like an amateur early beginner Shepherd and so he's like a pup of shepherds you're right it could be taken mate it's very ambiguous confusing you're a man of many mysteries and other such absolutely probably never has made the truth probably never know what if his package is just a puppy all right back on track here let's talk about our third story third and final story for my half the show which is about AMD I briefly skim this article so sorry if it's not super in-depth or if I get anything not 100% accurate you guys are used to that though AMD is not apparently not limiting their color depth on HDMI to point out is in capital letters yes it's a overclocked 3d net thank you for this article they made it very apparent that AMD is not limiting color depth on the HDMI 2.0 standard apparently a lot of articles are reporting contrary it was one one it was one main article that was picked up by a couple a couple more legitimate tech source tech you know taking outlets tech outlets you know tech news outlets that were more reputable that and then and then kind of snowballed from there like the internet usually does yeah but apparently the issue doesn't lie with AMD aimed he's not cutting off or limiting the color reproduction or the color depth I should say it's basically the limitations of HDMI 2.0 the standard itself there just isn't enough bandwidth with that connection to actually support a full HDMI you know chroma without any kind of Chrome with subsampling signal 2.0 B so there's 2.0 B and there's no 2.1 in the future and stuff but what the articles saying is hdmi 2.0 was never really intended to support HDR at 4k at least with four for four is it four by four is that how they say the the chroma subsampling do they say four by four by four I think it's just four for four I read it I read it all the time but I don't hear many people talking about it obviously so I don't know how it's actually spoken I've mostly heard people say four four four four four four four to zero or four to two okay so basically and Paul was explaining this a little bit to me earlier is that four four four is kind of like pristine uncompressed throughput so that's basically what we all want right we don't want any kind of compression we want to see the colors completely filled out as they as they are intended but that requires a lot of bandwidth that the HDMI 2.0 standard doesn't have if it doesn't have that bandwidth you can do what's called a chroma subsampling and that is indicative of the numbers or the ratios four to two or four to zero and that's what's currently supported with by AMD at the moment so um basically we're waiting on a treat EMI 2.0 or probably 2.1 2.1 or another future or display for dungeons yeah that's the other place that's the other topic that they brought up was like why hasn't TV just dropped HDMI altogether and adopted DisplayPort because it's been known to have way more bandwidth and HDMI is kind of just holding the entire movement back so to speak it's also royalty-free DisplayPort is a royalty-free standard which is all the more reason to switch over HDMI is not that's never sense to me either HDMI is just too prevalent everywhere in people or more likely to buy a new TV with a ports that they know they they're familiar with and that they've used before and they can plug in their existing blu-ray player or something like that it's kind of like why don't we all just have like electric vehicles overnight because will you were pretty much its induct Hrant like gasoline vehicles are in doctrine into our society right now it's gonna take a while to transition to something completely different and granted that's probably a way bigger topic than which cable you're using let's dive into that one let's talk about fossil fuel oh god no let's let's that's let's get to the bottom no never mind never pick too thick to lay on right now you're not prepared but yeah that's what's going on with with that so that's all you need to know that's all you need to know that's all the articles so that's all I read so I don't want to go on and spout some more glaber's I mean from because I didn't see this a few days ago I don't recall what the there was a there was a tweaked out article on this too I forget where the original article was from it might have been a German website or something like that see Germans Germans see gentlemen if I forget I've read it briefly and then as I got all right let's move on to pick my PC okay let's do that I asked you guys for some last-minute submissions I was running short on content for my half so I was like let's do it you guys delivered you sure did starting with big old group I don't know if that's how you pronounce your name sorry but it looks like you're rocking this define the define define our fourth fourth what I say um all right GTX 670 haven't seen that card in a build in a while with an Intel Xeon e3 1230 v2 670 is a classic yes it is I remember that EBG call my both ran six 70s for a while we did that was a good card I had the Asus direct see you - that was a great card actually I really like that one I still have it still have it still kicking although it's not really commissioned right now anyway yes I think mine's actually back in the box which one did you have at the same exactly he's his latest one with the chrome they're the they made the chrome pipes on the side look like they were like on a chopper or something grateful alright so basically when I would say right here right off the bat is ketchup and mustard cables that's a pretty obvious one it just makes the build look more on the budget side but with a couple extensions you can make it look a bit more premium give it a more high-end look and feel I would say I like the cooler I mean it's probably a really good one who looks like it's a it's not a knock to a cooler natively that's a site I'm using back to it but then I have a fan on it but I rather like kind of how it looks I think maybe if you put some more not to a fans in the case like some maintenance moogan moogan moogan let's do do some serious like custom sleeving and spray painting and custom work the only thing that I can really rent like I can use to remedy 1230 v10 awkward not to a fan is more not to a fans does that make sense like you have this one not to a fan that just kind of throws everything off even if you have your muscle even black lines to erase the doctor you must embrace the night to a fan and implement more of them paint throughout your whole case this interesting shade of brown or maroon or something in it like that 1980s chassis yeah beige chassis and stick stick that all that stuff in there but yeah that's what I would do maybe get the sticker off that power supply and cable management looks pretty good though yeah um solid this being pet my PC you know I'm gonna I'm gonna provide the opposing answer to this one this is a nice system you obviously don't have much of a color scheme and that's totally fine this is I mean I don't know when you put this together or if you built it up overtime or anything like that but I bet this is a very nice speedy little system I think the best things are gonna like as far as speed or anything like that performance or going to involve really changing out a lot of the base level components motherboard processor and graphics cards so yeah I guess what I'm saying is I wouldn't really touch system much because it's wired in nicely and everything and everything's kind of like it's all it's all right about the same performance level you know I would want to invent I would want to start a new project rather than ya taking this system and upgrading it but since that system does or since that case does have a side panel window if you were just money to do the bare minimum of aesthetics and this just occurred to me now since you've already got a white graphics card more or less than a blue motherboard or a blue accented motherboard maybe just get rid of that knocked to a fan put it in a different system use it for a different application and replace it with a fan that has like blue and white accents I think that would tie a lot of that together right they disagree what how dare you have a different opinion than me I mean from the core from the core principles of pit my PC okay share what you're saying makes sense but assigns Mugen with a Noctua fan is a really good performing cooler like this probably keeps this I bet this has really good temperatures yeah I'm sure sides makes some really good air coolers with some like solid and only providing my design and superficial you know thoughts we need both of ours to write but thank you to nob 1l or whatever your Twitter name is that I didn't catch Christian ray is is next okay 1:20 on Twitter 6700 K based system with a fury X and MSI gaming pro motherboard G Skyrim and a Corsair 400 C case that's the same motherboard that I have in the stream streaming PC that we use for awesome hardware at my house this is one of the first systems I've seen that's an actual person system that has one of these newer motherboards with the LED strip that goes up the side with the PCB that's kind of a slightly different color so it can shine through I was always torn when I saw those yeah me too because it's yellow because yeah it's kind of yellowish but I mean it's it's hard to say you're like this picture is taken with the flash and you can't see a whole lot of layer there that's so here's what it really looks like yeah Knight it's fun so they think I'm lazy it's made it's made to live in a darkness and yes to come out at night exist chef the blood of innocents innocent and that kind of thing all right this is a cool look I like the way it looks when it when the lights are out because you have the trace lighting on the motherboard you have the Radeon shining proudly there with the red which blends them with everything else your corsair and your msi light logos here as well I would say maybe adding a second LED fan to the to the bottom here would maybe I don't know what do you yeah cuz I think just the mismatch that depends the difference actually when they're on the same radiator I always like to have the same fans on on a single radiate just looks a bit more even things out a little bit maybe even on the the radiator for the the fury X there too or is that a fury yes fury X cuz it's got that there's not much you can do about the cabling here for the fury X it is as long as it needed to be to be compatible with as many cases as possible yeah so I don't know I mean your your routing here of the cables is you know it's not the most aesthetically appealing it's a little awkward but there's nothing you can do about those because they are units that are all in one sitting right and there's nothing you can do so there you go other than that your cable management is great you know many one thing he could do Paul is is maybe like zip tie or maybe put a velcro strap around the like both sides like both basically clamp your cables down for coming off your fury X give it the clamps it's kind of making like a big ceej like a backward C shape there if you could just clamp that C down you know like a velcro strap or like a zip tie it might like from here to here yeah like just straight from here it straight up and just kind of like clamp it down a little bit maybe even use two of them to flatten it out a little feel like if it did that and this was still going straight it would conflict with the fans it's hard to tell what the perspective of the camera I don't know exactly how close it is to the fan so yeah that might interfere but something to check out if you if you wanted to get in the way of your CPU and stuff I think it looks quite nice I think I think the main things holding you back or limitations of the all-in-one liquid coolers that you have but there's really nothing that can be done about that and you've done a great job otherwise so yeah there you go you Christian next up we've got Todd and he this is actually there's not much to pimp here I would say he's got a pretty killer systems could have been an honorable mention here it's pretty sweet this is from the mods ooh this is from the mods you yes this is a custom scratch build that he has put together with very much kind of a Green Bay Packers vibe I do see like a team helmet the background there this is a pretty nice little system here it's looks like the ud5 you dh5 from gigabyte that motherboard that had the gold accents on it okay um didn't get too much pop popularity but I thought it was a pretty sweet board also I like we don't the avexir Raiden Ram you've completely spray-painted that or colorized oh cool looks really nice change the housing and it's the green LED of XE Raiden rip yeah which is hard to come back yeah this and the tubing looks pretty sweet I think I believe that's hardline to me like I like these really like these fan and grills grills those are really cool bear grylls you know I wonder if those must be a Fed those must be 3d printed or something yeah I've never seen anything like that mmm retail um pardon me Todd posted his mods ooh link in here where I'm sure if it's a good mod suit post which I have to imagine this would be will probably have a lot more details on what he did as far as the construction of this so if you guys are looking at this in your Astrid yeah Kyle has the link to the Twitter post in the description of this video then in there it has the link to the mod zoo host very nice that's really cool I like that build the trash builds are so cool because they're just like you can just do whatever yeah whatever you want and they're completely unique so thank you very much shot next we've got Carl Barks at shadow byte on twitter which is in an h h RF sorry s340 not the elite I don't believe NZXT got a cry or a cooler on there looks like some lpx memory from Corsair little profile stuff yep that's probably either a GTX don't know it could be anything and then yeah it could be a yeah I'm not sure but this looks like a pretty modern system so yeah I'm guessing it's a 900 series or perhaps it's a thousand series rich gigabyte card what's kind of weird for so strange to me is the the PCIe cables how ones black and ones white I think you must have done that purposely with extensions yeah I would assume so I kind of like that you'd like the kind of alternating I don't know I mean this is a very black-and-white build and yeah I mean barring getting custom extensions or something like that or I just I just feel like I my eyes miss the black cable don't see the black right well because it's in the shadows ninja yeah I I don't have anything to say as far as suggestions for upgrading the aesthetics here apart from maybe cable combs for these eight pins for your CPU that's about all I'd have to say and this is the only picture I think that's sent so oh it's a 980ti g1 gaming and i 545 90 or cry rig age 7z 97's SLI crate and eight gigs of Corsair Vengeance LP memory nice build I like it yeah very very nice could you up Carl Isaac Schultz is next the blue waited are there for testing stuff not permanent okay 6700 K 916 looks like a GTX 960 is there yes we've got one gig 960 ram 256 gig OC z end up to one terabyte SSD and you know that hyper 212 Evo lifestyle right there um so I'd say this is probably like the weakest that I've seen today for as far as cable management coast certainly I think the SSD that's hanging on your power supply shroud there she'd probably have some kind of housing that's a bit more stable be like he was indicating that that might be temporary but okay if that is temporary good the blue waited are there for testing stuff this awaited it's gotta be some autocorrect but there's a blue SATA cable here plugged into an optical drive which is obviously not a temporary solution there's also a backplane on this case this is a Coolermaster case I don't know which one Evo it's a half X okay well well I think your your system definitely needs a RiRi hall or a revamp of its cable management I would just at this point I would just clear it all out like take all the cables unplug them and then that will also give you done doesn't plug them and then remove this power supply and replace it with a good power supply because this is an L I don't ok Liz made maybe this is an okay power supply but it doesn't look like one to me based on the label on the side a shoddy cabling LSP 700 watt ATX I can't read the power chart there but 80-plus concerning I've never heard of LSP before and 80 plus I mean yeah may if it's not 80 plus a power I get an updated power supply with some better-looking cables would be a very good solution for doing that and then you know SATA cables are really cheap you know I can get it for like 50 cents each I'll you bear something just by some black SATA cables that blend everything else in and then do some cable management and you have a nice-looking system yeah that's what that's my stance a mess you know I shouldn't tell anyone to clean anything out of their systems because my because the recent video I posted just shows hotline old there's dusty and nasty yeah yeah arctic Panther is actually pretty dusty right now it's yeah all right Zach pies I use ice 4470 ka7 at GTX 780 I'm guessing issues formula formula z87 so Maximus thinks my formula 32 gigs of G scale ramp see sonic 650 watt power supply and an 850 Pro see this is what I was talking out there not to a fan like if you had a whole gang of them it can look fine right yeah it's a theme right and it actually looks pretty nice here I'm sure you're getting some really nice temps on that CPU as well there's honestly not too much I could say about this system other than if you wanted to get some sleep extensions even though those are black I mean they're already like matched quite nicely with the rest of its it blends in your cable management is good you're taking advantage of all the correct grommets that you should be that it looks like you know there's nothing sticking out no no everything looks good to me it looks a little dusty you can clean it and if you really wanted to maybe get some extensions I agree that's about it though good assessment Kyle yep okay that's off to put my pcs over and then we got our last segment which is face off that window oh we got a small sponsor spot yes brothers yes today's sponsor is fractal design where did that go yes yes they are good old fractal and I just checked my email and was like why isn't anyone bought anything from my story it's because I archived everything I archived all my what Commerce orders I filtered it because I was getting too many like Squarespace emails like you know the new order you have a new order that's annoying finding that likes like hey somebody has supported your challenge fuck you no Lisa why can you make me happy work more efficiently hey they get their own inbox alright ok they're special there we go fractal design it's a sponsor for this week's show yeah we'd like an fractal josh is in chat how does he know to show up right as we are doing the sponsor spot I know he's a lurker he just don't know just lurks until he her half season the word for Apple he's watching us very closely to make sure that we're doing a good job and saying only good things about fractal design I'm just waiting for like the pizza to show up yeah Pizza sure would they would share what suck if a pizza showed up where's the pizza today Josh anyway point being I have a new fractal define mini C and I built from the system in it and I was gonna have it right here like be like Lois system but it's out and it's my HTTP C and it's probably recording I don't know house hunters are some stuff that my wife likes to watch but the point is it's great if I'm in DC is great for recording time I had mini see the fine C is also available in the full-size as well as here it is there it is right there hey so check out the define C it's a new design it has a as a power supply shroud it does she's nice the first of its kind has they the very you know distinguished look that the fractal cases are known for minimalist Scandinavian design and I thought it was pretty good case I'll overall if you guys want to check out a little bit more and watch the videos linked in the description well at least on my channel I don't know if Kyle's done this on his I did I linked I linked the link not to my review but of the product page on fractal okay on fractals website okay and I have both done our views of this case the defined mini see so so go ahead and check those out and you can see a bit more of our feedback and and the builds that we did in them because we both did builds in them we did my build looked better mine's a z77 build you dick see 77 that's old-school like an old-school classic yeah had a 35 70 K in that bad boy nice had to take it out of the HTTP see wifey sauce wasn't happy about that wait so what did did you so is this now your htpc - no I just did it for the video did you move it back because the z77 board it was the only micro ATX port I had okay was yeah it's you should put a micro ATX board in on my grades yes you shouldn't yeah and then the 35 70 K was the only 1155 chip that I had okay yeah back into the other case now yeah it's all it's all restored back to normal okay htpc has been restored but I will say cuz I mean I moved my name is from a node 804 to the define mini C but it stayed that way afterwards right that while uptick because I mean it's quieter it's yeah the node 804 had been in service for a while and then gotten quite dusty for me it's just a space thing our HD PC is the size of like a toaster it's like this big oh yeah it goes underneath our entertainment center stone face but yeah go ahead and check all that out links in the description below for either of our YouTube channels you can find more information on the defined mini see right there including our reviews and stuff but let's go ahead and move on to our next segment which is face off now we can do face off which is a segment where Paul and I go head-to-head it and mean to do that in an online what's happening I changed I changed the lower thirds and we can't take you anywhere Paul hey i parently changed them both that was weird Oh where's face-off haze under F yeah they should be there it's right there face up a okay now now we can do face off all right so basically this is an online two-player flash game it's a really shitty game that Paul and I usually play and one of us wins and the other one loses and the loser usually it's Kyle because he has practiced 29 I mean no tell me not today I saw you I was like oh we have a very living I have to test the games how many times drivers Davis I have to test the games to make sure that they actually work because some of the games you should grab that keyboard because when they're when they're just when they're free and they're like online flash game some of them just don't work like you'll press the buttons they don't work it was just like I had we need a cable I'm gonna buy you the board for Christmas why cuz it's it'll be a gift to me as well these keyboard face offs are just fine but I mean a wireless keyboard for face off just her face off okay would be really nice get one of those really thin I have a really thin Logitech one I could just bring it over but this is why I like keyboards that have a USB pass-through so I can do stuff like this oh okay what ruin the entire stream press like f11 f12 over bring it oh no why are you gonna get you're gonna go coding right now yeah I'm gonna code and recode the shit out of this website at coding this stuff I need to see the source code alright so on the game that we have set up today is flappy bread we've lost another LED really yeah wow that's S&H if no died and I what eyes going oh and I what yeah oh and one what LEDs used are frying off of this thing this is a lot there's a lot of LEDs have died up has never had an LED diode yeah it happens fortunately the keys still work when you press them it's why this is episode of Awesome hundra's not sponsored by Cooler Master certainly not um all right so I guess we can go on to our game which is flabby birdies it's kind of like I guess when flappy bird was around someone just made this as a knockoff it's basically flappy bird that really annoying app game yeah that got way too much pop you never actually played um I've only played in this form before maybe once on the phone but I immediately hated it and never played again so we both died but what what just happened I think oh no you can go to retry so mine is I have space I have I know I know wait one of them space and you have up or space or mouse and then the other person has you so you do up arrow you do the up arrow I'll do you space okay all right so I'll be alright we can ready yes go so I'm right I'm blue so the idea is fall and not fuck looks like I'm winning fucking tree stumps alright yeah you know one so let's go first to ten first to 1000 okay honey oh it's quick though Krista five five wins best out of seven the first wonderful way first of four yeah so I'm already up one starting now god dammit that was a practice run just make sure that everything was working I was like a test boot Paul boys she can't call it a build to build complete on the test boot alright first of four don't worry I'm really bad at this obviously you have like the temperaments and the control that I do not so I should just die because alright come practice practice in here no all right oh my god that's three nothing nothing nobody heard the last two or three sentences we said because I turned the volume dead because ah sorry sorry about the parking alright well that was what we call a sweeping the series I believe yeah it was pretty bad alright good job Paul but I'm gonna have to pay the consequences because after every faceoff is a punishment that the loser has to arable punishments so the punishments that I've concocted for myself apparently today is that for for your half of the show yes from I have your half of the show since my half is pretty much over I'm gonna have to finish any beer alcohol or anything that I drink from here on out is gonna have to be drank out of this tiny mason jar that's a very small mason jar very tiny maybe a shot or a shot and a half worth it yeah probably an ounce ounce and a half perhaps so um I guess I'll just kick things off but I don't want to pour it over here cuz it's probably gonna get messy okay I'll do I'll dunk it dunk it like this use a wired make a little dunk for you yeah you know attach a wire to it all right bottoms up cheers Cheers hey excuse you guys doing the view shot feel so much more badass drinking out of a shot glass oh yeah I'm ready for another one I'm ready for another one it's like yeah it's like 5% beer bro all right shall we do some Johnson shoutouts yes we shall yes okay let's do this yes it is Asian sighs correct all right starting with a six seven five three oh now that's good this guy in here Gavin Gavin thank you very much for picking up a bio slasher shirt thanks Gavin oh no I didn't I just okay well as Navin Johnson wait Nick Nakia Nakia Armour you're only supposed to say the first name they'll never know how that's spelled okay but I won't do their armor it's very cool name I had to share it with the world so cool name CPU cooler thank you very much for picking up a hoodie actually a CPU cooler hoody appreciate that you'll probably be warm in it I don't even have one of those jealous and then just one more here Mitchell thank you very much Mitchell Johnson for you sir for picking up a bit wit logo shirt the video the hoodie you got the hoodie yeah awesome thank you and the stay positive shirt as well thank you very much sir oh we got to mention this by the way can we mention that really quick right you mention it now she's mention now so um we just we're in talks with our t-shirt guy who handles all of our merchandise and he has just initiated some coupon deals on both of our stores which means you can get 10% off starting now effective now 10% off our merchandise if you spend $50 or more or you can get 20% off if you spend $100 or more which that's like you know if you bought like a couple shirts in a hoodie or maybe some pint glasses and you know some some polo shirts from Paul store whatever it is a couple decals you can easily take advantage of those discounts it is listed on both of our websites I believe according to our t-shirt guy so if you go there oh my god what's happening here all right skips a beat every time so uh feel free to check out those deals it's that time of year y'all where Caesar seasonal discounts and stuff are running amok so oh yeah go ahead check it out their label they're listed you can use a fun offer code and stuff sorry I just knocked up here yep alright alright stay tuned they're not they're not listed on your store though yeah they are a few of us you have to go home I think probably because I am a age know be a home yeah oh yeah got a quick home yeah so you guys you'll see the deals and stuff on my homepage but yeah they cool they will work allegedly so that's all for my half of the show guys don't go anywhere because we are gonna continue with Paul's half if you're watching us on YouTube right now you can go ahead and head over to his channel Paul's hardware if that's too difficult then you can there's a link that I put in my description that'll take you right there if you're on Twitch just stay where you are we're not going anywhere we probably will even cut we'll probably just you know pee right in front of you that should have been the punishment for face off ok so thank you guys BRB yeah goodbye