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Oh in chance if things are looking and sounding okay but without holding too much else up welcome this is awesome harder episode 96 it's a very shortened episode because we are attending some thing right now that we cannot really talk about at full until it really not now so we do have a special guest with us here this is Steve from gamers Nexus they have a website as well as the YouTube channel I've actually pinned you guys on my featured channel this channel so you guys can find them very easily through there I have to do that because I'm a better friend than Paul and if you guys missed Paul's half of the show which just aired you can go ahead and head over to youtube.com we're gonna miss much elite didn't miss much these are very short and kind of on on the win portions of the show because we just have a lot to do still at this event right after this so we're a little bit pressed for time Steve's actually got to catch a flight fairly soon and do a bunch of other stuff so we're gonna keep things very quick and concise but if you guys have any questions and you'd like to also tip us with a donation or something like that go ahead and blow up chat we'll be reading all your questions about things that we can actually talk about and and it should be fun I think Steve had a couple topics that we already discussed on Paul's half of the show I think that was probably Oliver Angie has a horn one more I guess I don't know a whole lot circles disclosure I don't know a whole lot about this one in terms of hands on experience but I've been reading a lot of news lately about the Intel Atom CPU that are used in several Nass products like what sine ology shifts and so some of those have issues some errata issue where they just slowly eventually die and sign all adji said that all of their naps units like the DES 15 15 plus and all these other ones that are popular have passed all of their internal requirements for a quality product so there's no recall or anything but they've extended the warranty by one year on a huge list of products there so nothing's wrong but whose extended worth right what's what what is actually been happening to them I don't know the full details I'm sure someone has followed the news closer but there's Intel Atom CPUs like the c2 5 3 8 that have some errata issue where they just die so if that happens in your nas so i nology saying that they see they've seen nothing historically with their units that are that would be affected that would indicate like data loss or anything risky like that but they've extended the warranty anyway so yeah interesting imagine if you had like a complex raid configuration and your processor in your nas died that might be slightly difficult to turn I guess the three angles of their panels but the problem is like hopefully you can just buy the same unit and plug it all back in right I guess it depends on yeah on exactly what's being read and written at that time that's a good point I said I've had my share of failed attempts at rebuilding a raid array after they after whatever controller was originally Ryan had something should have happened with it but all right well this is anyone who's got a one of those atom processors look into it yeah and I'm gonna check into that especially if you have really important data on your net to have it's alright hey we got a $5 donation from Richard Dortch thanks Richard least 5 bucks for you to count wait super stuff Verizon because my x-15 Sabretooth slash oh it just scrolled up where'd it go I can't go up anymore favorite tooth /x 5670 at 4 gigahertz is getting pretty long in the tooth Oh keep up the good work yeah we're pretty stoked for resin as well Richard we're very stoked Verizon incredibly stoked yep can't wait to open it up resonance stuff also three dollars from Josh rockin an R nine fury he says at 1080p and want to move up to 1440 should should I go ahead or wait for Vega to get a 1070 so go ahead and get a 1070 now a week for Vega Vega AMD has promised a launch in the second quarter that's what they've said publicly through so yeah our yeah first half so yeah so we're expecting probably Computex timeframe is what I would guess for a launch like that so I mean for me this question always heavily like comes down to what you're using now and if you're like if it's acceptable for you are you doing okay now if you're doing okay now then I'd say it's always worth it's a weight if you know there's a big launch coming up especially within a few months but that said if you really like just don't like your setup right now and x58 is getting pretty long in the tooth at this point like you said then it might be worth heavy consideration I'd say at least wait a day or two to make your final decision though yeah well there's been a lot of leaks in the past few days in the past few hours and when there's a lot of leaks generally that means that there's something actually happening so yeah normally and this is something we've published several times on our channel and website I am frequently when folks ask should I wait or buy I will almost always say buy because normally it's a question of months versus like you have a vague idea of when something's coming out and it's like waiter by 4kv like back in November that's basically saying uh probably just buy because your options are skylake KB leak which is probably going to be a one to three percent better and Reisen was who the who lagged knows when you know and that was gonna come out that but lately I have been saying wait like for the past month because Intel's not exciting that's not news relate to anyone there's still fine products if you have a really old Sandy Bridge or something that's still a good upgrade but you know Rison should be competitive and it's not far away so yep so if you can wait just wait yep next up we've got a $5 donation from disturbed thank you very much sir tell Steve I said thanks and have a beer on me at your super-secret event okay awesome I believe that's a beer for you Steve you know do you ever drink beer spurgeon eyes these hot beer drinker so Kyle and I will share I will open from the team awesome we also had a ten dollar donation from Lustrous he says I love all the video videos you guys do and I just want to show my support y'all make my days at boring IT Help Desk way better awesome this is the best types of donations Thank You letras yeah thanks a great donation and I'm glad that we're able to provide you with some kind some form of entertainment and hopefully hopefully it's helpful at some times to quality entertainment yes quality entertainment from a random hotel masters yeah so quality that we have to like keep adjusting the iso every five minutes as the Sun Goes Down yeah I don't have studio lights we're looking pretty orange right now I didn't really have time to do much good white balancing between halves but it's okay I can still see her yeah we're a bare minimum okay I would see no blinking in the camera oh yeah we're supposed to be blinking Morse code signals to the truth sure people who are looking for that kind of thing about what we're not hiding anything shit are we I don't know did we given how a slipshod just the setup of this livestream was in general if you guys had any ideas that we were trying to sneak some hidden message or like plans think we did there wasn't much time for that yeah find all 15 Easter eggs in this shot yeah gonna happen there well this painting clearly as we been discussing the painting is the biggest hint really really in the shower right now yes if you want to enhance you know and read between Nova seriously though there is actually seated there yep go ahead and screen cap now who knows what it really means oh nice you just screwed over so many people because they're all gonna be doing that you know it oh wait we have another donation a dollar from automatic Matt thank you sir Oh chat stay still I wish you all a great trip in seriously Kyle can you change charge three dollars Wow you're just asking me to charge you more money and side panel cleaning tips we already gave you some I think I wish you all a great trip and seriously okay yeah oh say the same thing um so basically what we were suggesting is just use regular glass cleaner I mean it is a piece of glass so anything that works you know to your liking for regular glass products we'd probably do just as well on on tempered glass microfiber cloth and yeah we said it might have to show that gloves I mean if you're really serious about getting your system set up and you want to Christine like you get you just gotta use gloves or something like that to prevent the fingerprints yeah and the little thumb screws that you used to put on the tempered glass because yeah basically like use your fingernails unless you just get a bunch of thumb prints all over it fingerprints all around but and so his question about what you're charging for your premium channel though like yeah have you can have it like I think right now a dog fifty is an introductory price for people because it's very minimal it's like yeah it's almost nothing to a lot of people right just like sure we'll throw that on there for a monthly subscription have you thought though that you might increase it in the future and do you think that would be do you think people would receive it well I think you did a good job with the launch in describing how how it works and everything like that never the response was pretty positive I think I think there's potential for because I mean as the channel grows I mean obviously a dollar fifty is not gonna be the same amount of money as it was you know when I'm just a one-man operation like I explained in the lunch video I'm in the process of hiring my wife trying to get a dedicated studio space and none of that stuff is cheap and that's it and that's just 5% of all the costs you know that that are there for the channel to operate smoothly and stuff so yeah definitely I mean in the future people are saying like we saw in chat that dollar fifty is almost too reasonable and you know it doesn't really there's there's definitely room for more support there I think and I don't think I'm gonna increase it like in the next few weeks or anything like that but maybe six months to a year down the line I think it's it's definitely a possibility and I think also the fact that no one has really done a paid YouTube channel least in our tech space that I'm aware of and I know Linus has his flow plate flip floatplane Club which is a slightly different I got a different platform entirely but as far as like you know YouTube and being on the same platform I was a little I was a little nervous about how to be received because YouTube has always traditionally been a free platform and so even though it makes sense you know when you think about it to have a paid channel in tandem with your free one it's just a new idea I think that I wanted to approach it gently at first yeah it'll be cool I mean I know this function probably isn't there and probably isn't going to be put there but it'd be cool if you could keep people who subscribe now at a buck fifty when you up when you're in following them in yeah I'm gonna say that's the heart they know you want to start high cuz it's a lot harder to raise the price then lower area sure about it'd be nice if you could just grandfather that man like you're saying yeah thank you I'd be a nice would be a nice nice speech like some kind of early supporter benefit type of thing yeah and that makes you makes me like think like it makes a lot of sense what Winans is doing is creating his own platform where you have full control over the other thing as opposed to just being limited by whatever YouTube provides and honestly like they're paid channel like infrastructure just seems like an afterthought I think just because it never really took off it just seems like there's a lot of missing features that you would think would be no-brainer but yeah well the fact that they do in the end slate yards you can do the like link to a fundraiser they kind of says that and patreon is one of them that's supported to know is just like you know they I guess the YouTube acknowledges that their version is not that popular yeah very true at least they know what what's going on all right we have for donations now I'm gonna read this first one that came in because it's here right now dollar from Luke F thank you yes but floatplane has better bitrate and image quality Luke is that Luke for a friend ray we know that beat bloomin LLB look L but maybe it's his pseudonym or something like that maybe Luke watches every single episode of awesome hardware just waiting for us to mention something about lion spec tips of floatplane and they know we're just modeling us on how not to live stream that's right we're talking to Linus about pollute Lane last night and that is something that they have done to make it a more appealing platform for people want an alternative to YouTube something that doesn't have ads and something that they can contribute to sponsors for so Linus actually it seems like they've got a pretty good handle on how they want to arrange things and everything for floatplane Club and it seems very interesting I haven't I haven't checked it out myself but he did say like the audio bitrate they D like a hundred and ten ninety two-bit audio which is often a big issue for YouTube videos the audio can often get quite compressed and sound pretty mediocre or it's just required in a hotel room with a lot of echo and all I could say but I'm yes that is that is definitely something to consider with floatplane club I have three more donations here that I copied and pasted all right five dollars from tech life ly fe wave to the camera and say hi John like Ron Burgundy that's is he does that directed to all the story I don't know I don't I don't remember that being a Ron Burgundy line does he say hi John some point he says John he says don't I like I like his with the things he says when he's doing the sound checks and stuff but yeah those are my chosen some of my favorite sculpture sculpture called yes that goes down to my belly uh whales okay Anna okay well I hope that's I hope that's enough free tech life thank you for your five dollars vagina you gets a pound so vagina five dollars from Nick Demetri Attis copy that most recent one cuz I didn't get that one okay five dollars from Nick Demetria Demetria at is without naming any names are specific would you say in a hypothetical situation the hypothetical CPU market will see a drastic change hypothetically of course I don't think it has to be hypothetically yeah processor we already know like horizon this it's been talked about before was then right before and there's still exam as the architecture and rising as the product that you buy but this has been discussed for a long time now and Andy has told us directly and we've been today the chip will be out before and a quarter before March whatever the last day marches so that's all known so yeah I would that mean anytime there's a new CPU especially from someone who's been largely dormant for several years on architecture that's gonna change things whether or not it works is a different name we don't know how much she's gonna change things we don't know how fast the processors actually are beyond the sort of limited testing internal testing that AMD does is shown us and everything so yes that's a big reason why we've said to a lot of people who ask us like should I buy this now or not like we know that there's gonna be a big old launch yeah like everyone's waiting for it it's been years and years since there's been anything like this to sort of dropped into the marketplace that will shake things up so yeah it's definitely gonna change things we just don't know how much right and it'll be hit or anything like that yeah yeah but we all I think we all have high hopes so yeah one question I copy and pasted from ages ago or not question I didn't get the person's name though Steve recently stopped the GN after pollen count recommended appreciate the effort you put into the videos Paul your quote shittiest video ever was genuinely hilarious really editing on point oh wow I always enjoy it enjoy your content Kyle sorry that your whole Amazon affiliate Fiasco is still unresolved and I wouldn't joined it with ultra but paid channels aren't permitted in my country frowny face you can't do the patreon thing and Kyle has been posting videos to patreon for people who are outside of the range of what you can access with the paid YouTube channel yep so check out if you really do want to or just wait for his videos to come up on this channel like they normally do speak do you know what countries patreon supported it if there's any I'm not sure I've gotta have not any issues at all hope guys complained yeah that's exactly why I decided that well the videos only gonna say well it's everywhere yeah yeah okay I have a six dollar donation from Tom Lucero he says what will the theme of your first rise in builds be this we can answer but uh the theme yeah what do you think theme black and red okay blue and green blue and green just a troll yeah um the theme I haven't thought of a theme yet I feel like the first builds will just be like here's a build for X dollars that you could enjoy that you have spends a lot more on last year to get the equivalent performance and and that kind of thing and maybe you know maybe make things match a little bit but I don't know like themes computers I really like those that like special builds they haven't you know when you go to events and they have like Computex is really good for that you know this is like a gigabyte had one there that was like a just like yellow you know tractor thing kind of oh yeah and yeah there's a lot of great they always have a huge amount of case mods yeah and their sweets - builds and stuff like shall see some pretty nice ones at Computex ooh I saw yeah I saw one late yesterday I think and now I can't remember where the hell it came from it was a wine it was a water-cooled build with wine so that so the the the fluid in it I believe it was actually wine that they used and in one side they like it had casks on the bottom how that was for thermals I like the kind of dark red liquid going through and then on the opposite side cuz it was one of those two chamber cases they had set up just a wine bottle at an angle that where the liquid came in so it was pouring the wine out into a wine glass and then that cycled back into the loop damn it was it was kind of cool and yeah Wow of wine I've got the glass material that wine has often contained them yeah I eat a glass I got wine and it's a specific heat at a constant volume but I do not have the thermal conductivity this will have to be benchmark elated and we got a test like white versus red rosy yeah different properties are different varietals yes come ordinations here they'll run off fairly quick for the shorter ones stellar from super assassin 95 Kyle when you when you went low Kyle when will you be releasing more hoodies probably the next month or so I have to figure out exactly how quickly the initial batch sold so I can part out like the inventory like how many I'm gonna get more there's an $8 donation from a while ago Bryant Alvarez yes you gotta read that one good I'll go for it I wanted to do my first build later this year and hoping Andy will bring down those Intel prices with a budget of $1700 do you think an ACS prime Z to 70 AR ATX motherboard is a solid choice I'm wanting to pair it with a GTX 1080 and i7 6700 does not say it's a case Q or should I go more substantial a motherboard in that price bracket you have the great word hmm well I mean like the motherboard to me is is usually a little bit less of a factor in that I mean look when you're looking at the motherboard you're gonna be looking at connectivities like MDOT two slots you have in there say this SATA ports may be additional features that might be added on there's lots of those available and also just realized I missed this as I was reading through it I 760 700 yeah I was e 270 so so you might know I mean III see no reason not to get kb lake if the price is within 10 or 20 bucks I didn't need a 7700 K instead of the 67 ok if you're buying it out rate but yeah like we've said to a few other people it's probably gonna be worth your while to sort of see what the marketplace looks like in the next say week to month and a half that's how long we have left in q1 and right and that might that make sure you think shake things up a little bit give you more options you know to look at the AMD side as well as the Intel side or if nothing else maybe the Intel prices will come down a little bit and you'll you'll see better options there but I wouldn't I wouldn't concern myself too much with the motherboard I feel like if you're worried about overclocking most motherboards that are at least 115 plus dollars are fine they're fine yes they all will see just the same unless you're doing ln2 or something crazy if you like at a certain point pass that it just becomes about aesthetics yeah like they just spend more like they put more fancy shit on the heat sinks and things like that RGB LEDs you gotta have that now obviously if you are your compare to be fast that is okay there was a $20 donation from Jabbar I know thank you very much for that Steve he says those all yes I read all ken that voice Steve loved your hybrid builds great stuff yes guys check that out it's Steve he gets the hybrid liquid coolers like Bullitt GP coolers the key PJ's and stuff and they actually take them all apart and lay all internal parts and stuff like that's really cool great stuff have you three received any rise in CPUs for review yet can we respect her can we expect a review when the NDA is lifted February 28th which we're not confirming it all by the way that's what the question says really torn between KP Lake build or risin jabber I know I think we can all confirm that we will be doing reviews and builds win the NBA lifts beyond that we can't really tell you anything further hey I'll say on behalf of our site we very generally well post product reviews and news as embargoes lifts so hey you got no specifics yeah $5.00 from Robert Davis I need a water going case okay suggestions for water cooling cases something good coming down the pipeline or down the pipe love you guys tears as I drink an IPA hmm water cooling cases I rather like I'm kind of a fan Tex fanboy in a way yeah like fanboy fanboy but I really do like their cases for custom water cooling and some of my first built into it and the end to evolve recently and that's a really nice case I mean it is a bit more expensive I think if you're looking for a less expensive water cooling case fractals options are really good yeah define ass define see even if you want to do something a little bit smaller part me I would take a look at the tempered glass steps that's been coming out because it's just all over the place the tempered glass and I really like tempered glass side panels is over plexi they're a lot sturdier sometimes they're a little bit more cumbersome to get on and off and that kind of thing but if you get a plexi side panel and you know five minutes later you got micro scratches on it like it's impossible to not serger mess those up in the least as you're doing a build and if you're doing a water-cooled builds like you're gonna want to look at it right that's a big pretty big you know I think factor for a lot of people who are investing in a water-cooled solution so you want to have you know something presentational there side I take a look at those and there's options from Corsair and zx80 fans that literally everybody yeah I mean when they think I also take a look at their even silverstone they're not normally big on the Isleta yeah yeah there's none to stuff yeah check those out I'd say and and any other any other standout cases for water cooler I mean Thermaltake this big and liquid cool and of course no yeah if you like 5p3 are nice it's very straightforward I mean it's like a wall and like some standoffs and then a glass in front base already a test bench and you can mount it into the wall if you want but in many ways the bill yeah it's also a uniquely third Thermaltake design case which I always like right derived actually from the level 10 case that they originally did like years and years ago is one of the first really high-end builts that we did at nuoc TV really early on was the ultimate build with the level 10 and what they did with that when we're at Newegg was they basically took the most expensive part from every single category and made me build a system with it which is really cool to tiya except for the look at the air cooler that they chose was this really weird designed air cooler so it's one that's like the base plate goes on like that and then it has this heat pipe array that goes up like that and then an orb style thing like this but it's this way and it costs like a hundred bucks at the time for an air cooler and it sucked like it really I was like do I not know how to mount this properly I remapped it like three times but it was really miss not a good performer and there was no like radiator mounts in that case where there was an air cooler like liquid cooling was not close the cooler I didn't even exist back then I don't think but I'm not popular Lee yeah yeah so anyway I went off on a tangent there but yeah the Thermaltake p5 and t3 those are those are pretty nice cases alright so what else we get anyone else have anything lined up ayuk leave a few fine dollars from talk advances great show is always guys where's the beer great show as always yeah we were kind of lamenting that fact as we were setting up but we prioritized actually streaming over getting beer for the streams yeah we're going to a thing just after this and they should have some beer there so well as opposed to paying like twelve bucks for a beer in this hotel so we'll pour one out for you guys yeah and and of course will drink Steve's beer yeah my ticket she's got a few minutes left okay let's do a couple more here five dollars from Sean Bray you guys give an astounding amount of guidance to new builders like myself I recently built a new PC on Friday with the core i7 7700 ke me gaz 270 for the wind cake EVGA 1070 for the win with an 850 850 Evo 500 SSDs 100 sent with the help of pH you know Paul's hardware that would videos min RGB by the way that was the biggest feature I think that EVGA was was talking about what those m270 stuff was no RGB LEDs it was actually really refreshing yeah why not you can also lack of RGB LED as a feature yeah that's where we are right now I mean let's come that far we're seeing the RGB push back that is a really nice build though for especially if it's if you're a new builder or a specialist that's your first time bill getting the raid configuration set up that's a that's beautiful though but yeah 850 Evo 500 gigs in raid I have a I have a 1 terabyte raid array my anarchic panther with two 500 gig SSDs and even though I've got the Intel 750 in there as well it's I mean it's not the Sun fifties faster like pretty decent amount but I really like my Y terabyte Raider it's it's nice it's just fun to say dinner by trade over here on that manda sexy let's see what else we got here two dollars from scam West how is San Francisco this time of year patent once I'm done in San Francisco Don you're talking about that's right yeah I don't know that's right that I am sorry yeah yeah well we were actually in Seattle he was actually just a hologram right now from San Francisco or somewhere else though the weather in Chicago is great today yep not a big deal of course alright wait though there was one there that I saw where a dollar from Douglas betrayal where does one get the Steve ISM shirt yes right here Steve brought us these shirts he had them made where I was a caller ID to leave it behind Kyle he fell out of my pocket it was rolled up in my back pocket and they just slipped out she said I was like fuck this shirt and you just threw yeah totally it's cold right no these these are very nice shirts and Steve brought the forest and we loved him for that and we're encouraging Steve - maybe merch store Myrtle yeah ain't good products that least extend this cherry yeah are those be nice I know message us on Twitter or patreon or something if you're interested in all I'll see what I can do it's it's fairly simple to set up we can put you in touch with our gates oh yeah he does he does most of the work of underlayer yeah cool all right and yeah I think is that all the all the donation comments that we had um there were a couple more one dollar ones or it will just go really quick Luke can you all stare at the camera and blink and use them to feed the hype okay that's innocent yeah I know exactly times they are blinking out different parts of the message you guys have to come all together you have to import they do leave uh editing software and then one more dollar from DB Chau can't donate the usual five dollars college books have been burnt or burnt a hole in my wallet to take this dollar throw it at a hooker stripper or just admire I don't know fuck college books college Polk high ten sounds like so racket that's a huge racket yeah yeah it is like it's criminal yeah hopefully you can like someone back after the left of the semester that's what I did got some of the money back yeah you buy the book for like 80 bucks at the beginning of the semester and then he sell back for like five yen it's like it's used now the words are more difficult yeah alright this is when you buy it yeah yeah moves up all the readings alright I think we're gonna call it now because we've got stuff to do like right now so thank you all so much who who donated and asked questions in chat you are all very well behaved today so thank you for that and thanks again to Steve for being here at section again go ahead and check them out at gamers Nexus on youtube or on the website which is just being with Nexus comical Oregon that yeah there one either one no um yeah we're gonna get out of your guys's hair thank you all so much again for joining and we'll see you guys very soon stay tuned for for stuff yeah coming new video is coming soon dairy su very that's all we can say okay alright you guys have a go on man I want a beer yeah