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because we don't know the price yet I would imagine it's still a pretty penny but there are a few features that have been dropped off of the X 27 to make this a tad more inexpensive for the average gamer now you don't get 4k that's one of the features you get 2560 by 1440 instead and there's also the absence of HDR which you know it kind of lowers the premium on it a bit I'm sure it still does have a very nice curve though an 1800 our curve to be a bit more immersive and draw you into the game it is how ever etienne panel ah yeah so at first I was like oh boo but it does use a quantum dot film in order to support 130 percent of the srgb and 95% of the DCI p3 color gamut Slyke so let's just take on a pig yes basically take tian mian slap some quantum dots on it and call it it good monitor good decent color at every spectrum um I don't know I'd have to see why these in person to know how effective that was a color range again somehow 30% of srgb and 95% of the DCI p3 so I I don't know if that's the same as I don't know that's a sixteen point seven million display colors so it's 8-bit so it's an 8-bit TN panel so I mean you're not gonna get really good color depth out of this monitor right but you'll get 2560 by 1440 and I get hundred and forty-four Hertz hundred forty-four Hertz native can be overclocked at 165 oh I'm not sure if many people will notice the difference but if you're like a super competitive gamer professional player then maybe that makes missus I missed it does this have G sync it does have Jason can you sink and ultra low motion blur I was getting around with that and Toby eye-tracking hardware so um we're familiar with this old and old at all this homie pollen I had a chance to check this out at CES last year I believe or was this year no last year and it's pretty cool I think I was playing Assassin's Creed unity or something like that and I was like being able to like jump from building the building without ever using the mouse or keyboard that was kind of cool just using your eyes and this is built this technology is built into the monitor and it supports already 100 titles support Toby eye tracking which I had no idea that it was already so widespread that's crazy um sure to grow I'm sure and there's no price or availability mentioned for this panel just yet but again I'm sure it's not going to be super cheap but at least cheaper than the x27 and you still get some pretty cool specs apart from two yet what that alright that damn it moving on to our next piece of hardware here it's the Corsair RGB clave or glaive RGB ya glai but maybe it's a gaming mouse with 16 no 16 programmable buttons would be a little insane 6 programmable buttons and a dpi 69,000 16 programmable button like yeah MMO mice of course yeah but just looking at the picture you wouldn't think the headsets true that'd be a little is like weird way to go they've all of these all these little dots of air buttons yep have to be very precise indeed Omron switches it features our on switches for the left and right clicks those are pretty durable it's like 50 million clicks of endurance and you get to RGB of course with several customized zones hey Adam hey Adam sorry we're streaming Adam Adam Adam I can't hear you just want your pictures Adam you can stop talking at them customizable zones that are RGB back 'lets supports custom profiles and can be gained specific the USB refresh rate is thousand megahertz one millisecond and they're there including three interchangeable magnetic grapes so if you have a preference on how you like the side to be what perfect times smooth or bumpy that one has like an elongated thumb pad or a thumb thumb area I love my thumb pads elongated you doing you know me I do you uh so sensual and fall with his along with them a wide grip with your your thumb rest and $70 us seventy bucks I would have to probably that's not terrible the mouse myself just to feel some sort of quality it looks pretty more or less quality enough and seems like it has a couple decent features um a lot of a lot of more aesthetic features I guess than the pure function but go for the reviews took them out on this guy there a bear there there are several reviews out on this arity i have already named them there's video reviews I'm even pretty uh pretty well received during Frank might a dental and actually made a creepy yeah I've always liked touranment when you get the little add-on pieces like little pop off thumb rest and stuff with mice because I was like you know you're going to find one that you like and never you know the other day to use so it's good to have the option but then I'm always like put them the others become useless sort of like I never met anyone who switches between like four different gaming no like I'm gonna edit a now go to my fps you know I need to switch my my thumb rest out for maximum whatever yeah it is a tad gimmicky I would say I don't know there might be somebody out there who who enjoyed it moving on to our next piece which is a the asus zenui mb 16 AC this is a 15.6 inch USB monitor that's lighting pretty soon sorry sorry I just wanted to prove those right yeah Frank I Frank did did review the clave you guys so that half of you just hit half a mil hey that's half a million you didn't you congratulate him I have not won on twitter twitter the my Twitter feed I use Twitter anymore yeah that's a bad Twitter well congratulations Frank if you're watching this congrats on half a million that's awesome is very very super very sharp super damn clean so yeah check out Frank's review of the glaive if you guys wanna look like things like Loki team crispy hey alright so um moving on to the Zen screen from Asus oh no this this sort of excites me and stimulates me this was revealed at IFA 2016 last August so it's been a while since we've heard anything about this panel pop-up but it's a portable sixteen point six inch IPS display 1920 by 1080 that uses USB 3 either type A or type C to make a connection to your computer or laptop if you wanted to extend your display it's super thin at 8 millimeters and it weighs only 780 grams it includes a one milliliter foldable case providing protection and also offers sort of a the ability to stand horizontally or vertically as they show you right there that's really cool that you can stand it vertically like um you don't really see that too much on these portable displays it looks really nice I will say that and I believe it has a built-in speaker I don't know if you'd ever want to use it but it could be handy in some situations response time was not listed so even though it has like a built-in gaming mode that you can switch to I'm not exactly sure what the response time is because I feel like for these types of external displays or these um add-on displays the portable ones don't generally gain very well because the response time is relatively high yeah specially when their IPs of course color depth is great but response time you get a lot of blurriness when you're in a fast-paced situation while gaming so it wasn't listed in the specs sheet right there but um I would I would really just something like this for gaming but no more like for business use or for like editing on the go or something like that right it's awesome for that kind of thing but it would be cool if it did offer some some gaming advantages there gaming features but there you go it definitely great this is my companion on the move in the commercialisation this person at the top of a mountain like it exit I'm to the top of the man what is he doing Highland carrying my screen is he trying to make a world rekky is the single example of when someone has done this on top of him mm-hmm I kind of want one they should just use clips of us wait so is there any price how about $300 I am was the rumored or the suggested price but that was last year in 2016 August I would imagine it's still around that same price $300 is about what you would pay for an external external monitor with these specs okay that's fairly um believe it or not fairly reasonable thank you I have one from G chic that was like 350 bucks G chic and it's about the same you know 1080p IPS 15.6 inch so my wife got one for like 70 bucks but it was a low resolution one it was like you know I don't even know like 700 by 1300 or whatever that weird resolution ever you brought it to land syndicate yeah I mean it as functional as as with you know if you just need a bit of extra screen space sure on the go yeah definitely makes a nice companion matter oh I should also mention that it gets all of its power through the the USB cable so you don't have any like batteries that you have to recharge or swap out which is nice moving on to the Corsair Carbide series spec not the Alpha the spec 0 4 and looks very very similar in style to the spec alpha just has those really sharp modern bold angular edges oh come on get with it all sorry the doctors checking me that's ok um so this is a pretty cool case it's got a ATX support and very stylish ATX support meaning for the motherboard and the PSU and it supports three hard drives up to two SSDs it's got a side IO which I always feel conflicted about I feel like the side IO is great if I was facing you and really in communitive it's not efforts in the wrong side against the wall or something it's got cable routing cutouts and tie-downs cable management seems to be pretty decent for a budget case that's for this one is around 50 bucks us 50 to 55 I think this is hexxus net Thank You hexxus but it's you know so all the prices are in euro so I would imagine around 50 bucks how much is it in euros 50 is it 49 49 9 49 let me see scroll down all the way scrolling dude it to do all the way all the way pay $49.99 that is about 55 us okay so I was I was right um so that's not bad this is a fairly this is this makes it cheaper actually than the spec alpha because the spec alpha just did a bill in that is like 80 bucks 75 to 80 depending on where you get it this is significantly cheaper you can make a pretty decent budget rig with this this case I actually wish I'd use this for my $850 Rison bill recently I don't like the front of it I'm sorry I don't either I don't I hate it it's a solid thought budget you're right it's got painted interior here in the cadets and all that said for sure 50 bucks but the black doesn't look it's still about my favorite at all but I like it over the the colored the colored accent once yeah I I totally agree I completely agree it's not my thing I think it just looks I like the over this I like the functionality of it that you get for the price it was yeah I don't I don't like that front and I just don't yeah no I agree sorry I feel like everything else is so minimal on the case like the rest of the frame is completely just like could be a fractal case but on the front is just it just there's a huge clash there but there's like two styles Jerry hey Jerry write this yeah oh hey it says cool thanks man be safe here I got a move you the real MVP um but also want to mention large a side panel window that's tinted you know you don't find that on too many $50.00 cases I gotta get this already I don't mind that I know like course not it's just a weird angular front thing of course there's never gonna work with this skin seven expansion slots max GPU clearance of 370 millimeters so you can pretty much put you know a reference GTX 1080 in here and so forth max CPU cooler clearance of 150 millimeters didn't say if there was any I don't believe there's any Pio support you're not going to find a IO support unless you do some custom work in a case like this if you bought an AI oh you'd be spending significantly more than the cost of the case Jo mm-hmm which which I mean I guess I don't know right um yeah don't do that nope don't do that all right moving on to our next day or next segment that was hot and heavy hardware let's let's talk about um let's talk about being the crap out of each other and face off okay that's always fun guys guys place your bets when you this opportunity to the pine for donations place your bets in chat oh yeah on who's gonna win and then great idea can yeah that's totally gonna like it's a great investment alright so what doesn't make any sense peanut do we need any place bets like that I'm a mess let's uh let's let's it's a fire up dragon fist three this is age of the warrior okay we might have played this game or maybe we play dragon fist - neither one I don't remember there are a limited number of free online crappy multiplayer games so we might be recycling some of these but it does have a two player option I don't are you sure about that I thought there was an unlimited number of no free online crappy games you would think that until you you run a segment like face off and then instantly come up with these actually there there are an infinite number but most of that infinite number or crappy games okay which makes also no sense um sorry I'm trying not to roll over my dog with my chair right now that would be bad he's he's he's really in not the greatest position and he could easily kill you hurt him too bad yeah that's true alright to player let's fire this up um for those of you who are new this is simply just me and Paul playing a game and then there's like a awful punishment at the end of it player one here whoever loses a and D to walk left and right I'm WASD and then so I tried messing with this it seems the only ones that work WASD for you it's up down left right and then you need to punch and kick with four and five as usually yeah because you have a numpad yeah shoot okay and then I'm teen or or I could maybe I can probably do it with this dumb pet over here yeah I do that that would still work why don't you just use OB kit can you have the keys on that - can't just use probably all right just do that I'll try just get our own keyboard why would that work I'll try so I'm T and knowing what it is there's actually and wide uh I think I've ignored well I guess yeah just take a second to to absorb it all in just let it sink in okay okay okay I think I'm I think I'm good alright I want a guy I want to be the Asian guy I think this is as big as I can make it make me the Asian guy you you want to be the Asian which that they're all the Asian guys Kyle that's a little racist Paul they all look the same you better check yourself before you wreck yourself okay um I'll be I'll be um I'll be this guy with the the same mustache as me him here yeah Tiger the tiger the tiger player - I will be you I'm gonna choose based on the name okay Nia green serpent who I can't like green servant oh actually I'm a green surpise Imogene okay okay oh wait hold on okay okay I am supposed to be working okay I'm on the left you on the right you're green obviously you're the green sir yeah I haven't agreed no that reason so why I'd like this choice was to help the people watching at home did we just hit some lag I have no idea that was weird oh my goodness that was very strange Oh midair is very chopping right now I do not know what is going on dude you need to upgrade your GPU man it's a 770 yeah yeah handle it show you kidding me there's like no aliasing Wow Wow then I can eat serpent diet two frames a second that victory this attack oh yeah oh wait you're still up person still up heck how how come your health keeps regenerating it's not regenerating oh wait green and the black what is that the red bars there's reason why some sort of power gun why can't I hit you this really the green serpents is not really living up to his name oh you got me in a corner you would never win a fight kicking like that kicking the way you are you're like pulp like poking me with your toes that's that's what your take that's like you're doing right now very powerful toes see that's kind of BS like half of my you can hit me in the air but I person is because I'm freakin the tiger man tigers are so aerodynamic not even close oh okay Wow alright so we're gonna do that 10 more times best of 10 best out of 10 okay Hey - that was later be the tiger again uh let's switch it up it's too late I already chose dad you're okay fine I'll be the tiger I kinda don't like the green serpents if anybody didn't seem to be don't fix it mr. Lee mr. Lee Lee sandwiches her hoo-ha hoo-ha or ting ting on every ting tang I'm go for Tang oh man so I get it Kings get I get it so you change your character Kings together freakin he's wearing a wife-beater packin he's wearing away he look his big old beefy arms look at those things ting are you just gonna walk up and shit whoa well what do you think you're like elbowing me I got a different style it's like some mood right ting has a crazy stomach you know even know what's happening oh come on come on Oh ting I'll teach you a thing or two oh fuck you when you're laughing your lines are cool hey chop off your leg bro okay do that whoa whoa that was sheer just look at my special combination you cannot fuck with me come on you pink asshole oh you little shit I finally actually yeah oh oh shit that's that's a 4-hit combo my hand carpal tunnel holy shit oh look at the elbow you know bullshit ah that's at least much closer all right well um does that camp though should we - yeah that was no you beat me twice you in a row man two in a row anchor you can't you can't mess with the tiger in this no you cannot all right so the punishment for Paul's horrendous loss that was horrible I was is um defeated and humiliated is he has to chug a beer you had pound a whole beer not just average Lanai that's not what you said it says pound a beer a meaning one beer ounce a pound a part of a beer that's fine I'm fine pounding a beer I'm just pointing out that you changed no it's just the way this you're right you wrote that you type something in naked maybe you change out of the last second that's fine we get no I know I can i can t annexations here look I can hit ctrl Z and show you that I Hashmi just starts deleting them all I'm saying is the way that you described it to me when you're like hey do you think maybe we could do this as the punishment that's that's fine hey what how am I gonna patent where's oh because I've got I have a full beer here okay but I have this beer here and I only have one glass all right um hmm I have my water glass jug your water and then alright it's not that to check twice basically second water unusually and then and then pour beer into it alright how about this how about since you think that there are some just discrepancy I don't think you could do like 3/4 of a beer we get the title half slam Adams fresh as hells it's better but that's clever those wait on an opening sure when fresher tales yeah go ahead and revel an EVM out near victory here no ice yeah I so yeah we dance or whatever you I really have a damn yep land could sort of make one up together did you write a speech did you have a speech prepared yes I do actually it's momentous yes mom I do it's on my father moment attune here's my speech Paul you suck I can't believe I creamed you that badly that sounds wrong um enjoy your beer buddy thank you Cheers I peed in it just kidding Wow I was a beautiful chug Wow well done sir well played you know what you've redeemed yourself for that tercius loss just minutes ago with a phenomenal chug of the of that of that tasty beverage I think this is my first rodeo got the whole beer yes well done everyone applauded pollen Chet thank you and um thank you kindly if we've done our job well I'm gonna I'm gonna be burping soon what happened just between that howl and slurries gonna have it on invariably yes and thus concludes face-off yay thank you all for being a part of that that was completely magical in every way incidentally my half of the show might be slightly more entertaining out - mm-hmm who does doesn't say much moving on to news let's talk about Vega Vega Vega and how it is for Johnny may be limited in quantity there's the bear may be offered in limited quantities in the first few months of launch this vehicle comes from our friends at WCC of tech and it's been two years they start off the article by saying it's been two years since AMD is really competed with Nvidia in the in the high-end graphic space there's really it's just been the RX 5 80 aurochs 480 happen till this point that's the best they've done and there's really been nothing to compete with the high-end Nvidia stuff until now with Vega we're looking to to get the gtx 1070 in the 1080 maybe the 1080 TI a run for their money however it is slated for release in q2 and rumors that have flocked to tweak town these are rumors that were picked up by good ol tweak town have stated Wylie reading your WC CF Tech article because the WCC of tech credits tweak town this is the first one that I saw okay and I figure there's less ads on this page um so we found this video I'm gonna go to the tweaked-out are a tweet out has stated that um like look what the tweak town article has when we you in ad blocker we should just whitelist them permanently this is an Anthony story though so credit all credit to Anthony yeah credit and he's in if he happens to be watching today he's gonna be like super pissed that we're actually reading the story FWC CF Tech yep that is that is true I honestly didn't realize it was tweet Kevin well I actually did and I was like yeah but I open this page I always feel like the first one I go to like the first article I have to white list a limo fly though it's just such a pain no look at this look at this cool graphic that there you see see text added up with the graphics it's kind of textured yep bring it home they probably just hired some guy just to make that picture just for this article yep detail and detail so anyway they get will release allegedly in limited quantities only 16,000 units I believe globally which is nothing for the first few months of launch due to shit HBM to yields ah yeah I'm also potentially bottlenecked by TSV supply TSV is what connects the GPU with the memory and the packaged I there's a lot of design complexity apparently when it comes to crafting an HBM GPU and AMD seems to be struggling with that at the moment according again to this rumor who talked to tweet town seems like this is Fiji all over again in a way this is what we saw with the the theory cards the nano cards with their HP m1 memory or that's redundant there HBM one and adding board partners even have still had yet to receive Vega for internal testing which is kind of interesting we might see AMD release a limited edition model of the card and selling it exclusively but themselves at first and then we'll see custom variants from the Adhan board partners release a couple months after launch a couple months potentially open week so it doesn't look that long maybe weeks hopefully weeks usually it's a few weeks and for a good launch maybe it's so a month a month and a half like if it was a full two months so it kind of suck yeah and it depends on what the reference cooler will look like on you know yeah on this as well if it's if it's packing you know like a decent liquid cooler on or something like that and the temperatures are good no coil wine my pick one up you know sure they might satisfy me for the first few weeks but if it's just like a crappy blower style air cooler than I'm gonna be mad and very impatient for the the custom ones to come out but um yeah q2 is really all we have to go on for now but we might be getting a we're already like halfway through to - yeah it's it's mid-may one skew to end and the end of June June so June July April May June that means it's got to be coming like you know copy text maybe after come today like a few weeks after copy text at the latest there but we might be getting some more details on the release date the exact release date for Vega as we'll find out later in this half of the show but for now we can mosey on over to our next story which is about X 299 ooh to be unveiled at the PC gaming show on June 12 X 99 this is exciting this is the annual show that happens at e3 which is going to be in Los Angeles again this year right after copy text in June just to point out this is another WCC F Tech article so you know it could be could be wrong it could all be wrong or it could be from a different publication originally that could also be true but it's going to be hosted the the PC gaming show is going to be hosted by Intel and PC gamer this year with a focus on X 299 there will be a big unveiling during the show as well as sky like X and KB like X which are the two CPU families that will be watching on X 299 this is followed by market availability on June 26th so not more than a month after this show we'll be able to buy these things and actually build systems with them which is exciting the first X 299 motherboard teases have just released from msi norris msi first of all features just a little glimpse of the lower region a third quadrant of their motherboard featuring some blacked out PCB action it's like they're all in for those heat shields the heat seals that works as well and I wonder like ryback's whatsoever they better have done something to them I really hope they've done like they've added something other like hey look the old heat shields that were proven do nothing or make things worse worse yeah these are better if they're the same they're really gonna get shit on for that but yeah um okay I like I said you don't need to use them yeah but I like lots of m dot 2 slots though that's cool yeah maybe they're there to protect the slot until you install something in it they're like dust defenders yeah that's what they are they should just rebrand it as dust defenders we way better so it features RGB LEDs of course for pcie 3.0 by 16 slots so potentially for way crossfire sli with this bad boy which is pretty sweet you get would be supported by the graphics vendor but whatever yes of course 3m about two slots of course with shields I even put a little note beware and a large chipset heatsink with the dragon logo it's this overhang which you can kind of tell right there it says caution passion says caution ultimate power are you serious Wow stupid wow that's so silly it's Devon silly it's very small so it's not like it's a huge impact yeah that's caution ultimate power is come on basically the like the there's like it like a white dwarf star like basically where it is part of this motherboard that's what it feeds off of I'm just waiting for her like the next motherboard to have just like crime-scene tape like all over it like oh yeah frames were murdered beware this is crime scenes were murdered brutally at this scene I don't know I don't know G but um I got a rs.1 as Horace is a featuring several pcie 3.0 by 16 slots as well there's an ASIS Horace logo sorry on the X 299 heatsink and there's an m dot to guard that looks a bit more substantial than the the msi board but you can't really tell is this the only image for the thoris yeah okay yeah so um see this looks like it's actually a heatsink yeah it looks it's metal not just a slim piece or I guess it's like yeah exact I have some some girth to it and that was pretty much all we got from Oris okay couple other notes about sky like X just to really briefly recap a lot of the information that's already been put out there sky like X will feature skews rocking 12 8 I'm sorry 12 10 8 and 6 core models based on 6 yeah based on static architecture how did before we want EVP for all of them clock speeds range anywhere from 3 gigahertz to 4 gigahertz potentially past 4 years particularly for the 8 & 6 core parts and we've got 12 cores the 12th core model is going to feature more PCIe lanes with faster memory support and using a new LG 2020 66 socket which we believe will be compatible with the last two generations that Club processors so backwards compatibility up to two generations that is going to be nice up to 24 PCIe 3 lanes on the chipset quad channel memory of course up to ddr4 2667 megahertz native so you're gonna have to overclock your memory if you want to push beyond that KB like X this is kind of the black sheep for the sort of an anomaly here and I'm not fully sure if I understand KB like X just yet but according to the article it's intended to incentivize users to upgrade to the enthusiast platform for less money 400 bucks for these two quad-core SKUs that are not offered that's not less money $400 I know that's why I don't I don't really quite understand it's not less money no because you can buy the six that is that's more than what the six cores cost right now correct no it's it's just it's definitely strange I'd have to see what we have to see what the performance is like maybe they could I don't know what I think what are they gonna ever think the most higher higher high dog speed because maybe you can hit higher clock speeds than the six cores because it's got less fewer cores and you know it'll have higher IPC perhaps I don't know like in a landscape where Rison doesn't exist this might have been something where it's like okay you know gentry level product - for people who want to get into the enthusiast platform like you said with an inexpensive chip but if it's if they're already playing and charging more for a quad core and what there's six core scoffs right now and you can get rise in six cores for less than what the mainstream quad cores cost right now yeah exactly what I okay is very yeah and you're only getting dual channels memory support oh so you can't even okay all right corkle yeah well I mean that would make sense because the memory controllers on the processor so yeah but I mean what why so it's like a weird period behind you jump onto this platform where even on Intel it would seem like it makes more sense even if you're not even looking at AMD it seems like it will like why don't I just spend 50 or 100 bucks less on a z2 70 motherboard and get a kid it cuz it's still the same architecture it's KB Lake yeah or or why not spend a hundred to two hundred fifty bucks more and get one of like the six core sky like X processors yeah and have access to more features like ddr4 like it just seems like it's so in the middle like it's not but it's it's in the middle between just the consumer and the high-end desktop market but it's not like we're it's it's not like best of both worlds metal it's like worst of both worlds yeah like you're getting you're getting none of the features you're getting all the like limited features of the consumer grade market and then you're getting the the high price of the enthusiasts grade high-end desktop so so even right here comparing assembly 600k you know obviously rumoured specs 7600 k confirm specs with 76 40k rumoured specs same process same number of cores and threads 76 40k doesn't even well they don't know what the boost clock is I might might ship at a higher frequency dual channel this says quad channel this does say quad channel for the 76 40k oh maybe it's going to be like a maybe they're going to add support for it later yeah it could be a firmware patch higher TDP which might indicate a and that it's shipping at a higher frequency but yeah it really depends on the on the what they're going to try to charge charge for this processor and how much the motherboards are going to cost x-gen i x99 motherboards typically start at 200 bucks for like a cut-rate one i mean maybe maybe a little less than that now because it's getting a slightly older but you got to pay more for those high-end motherboards and it just it seems seems strange to me let's see um okay this so there will be an update in the future to include support for quad-channel memory for cabling ex what like it sounds weird in that case it would seem like is it's like firmware locked out or something it's the controller is capable of it and then that would be an artificial lockout right if it doesn't just chip with that capability that's like quad-channel memory seems like at least something they could say well this is something extra that you're getting with the enthusiast platform compared to mainstream granted they're probably as more limited application for saying here's how quad-channel memory will actually help you out and make a difference because here it says katie like x-series processors will only support dual channel ram stick to the native speeds yeah and so but then the spec sheet says one channel so maybe also w c CF tech article and sometimes to make their articles longer they take parts of older articles and update the newer articles with them so maybe that's something from that could be a mix yeah yeah but anyway at any rate I'm definitely more excited about scaling X then I am maybe like X at this point it'll be interesting to test KB like X of course just to see just to validate all of our thoughts about it and but yeah up until that point we can just look forward to the PC gaming show at e3 which should happen about a week or two after we get back from Computex and then we'll have more information maybe on you know on everything on all the links I'll gladly read up on the e3 news from home yeah I don't think I'm going to try and probably not gonna go for that alright alright and our last story for today is about the AMD financial analyst day and potentially unveiling some some juicy news about Zen plus ooh um Nabby Zen where's it gonna be now Navi not this is again one of those Katy Lake caddy lake things um Navi in Avatar it's the Navi right yeah isn't it or something so I'm going to say Navi okay for now and Vega should be detailed at this nice press event then be on May 16th and it's going to feature the presentations from all the big players at AMD Lisa sue mark Papermaster my favorite last name for a corporate tech guy ever Jim Anderson Raja Raja Kaduri oh good ol Raja Raja is gonna is going to be delivering some cool information because he is with he's the chief architect of RTG radio technology group he'll be revealing future GPU plans this is not to be confused with vega's launch event but it might give us a better idea maybe even a specific date on when Vega is going to launch that would be cool that would be nice um I don't think anyone who cares about much of anything else no I don't want to go to e3 at this point Snoop um like like Paul said we only know that it's going to be dropping Vig is going to be dropping in q2 which were already almost through with and in addition to that though like I said they're going to be detailing Zen plus and Zen too or at least talking about their Raven Ridge ap use and Naples server platform we did hear quite a bit about Naples at the last AMD press conference but Zen plus is expected to offer higher IPC than the current Zen rising processors okay and obviously it's I would imagine it's going to be a m4 as well so compatible with a lot of the motherboards that are already out there but we don't really have any more information on that I don't think we we really know yet about Zen plus and what kind of like via this is n plus n 2 it says Zen plus is expected to offer higher IPC and then it says that at the event they could potentially be talking about Zen too as well okay we don't really know because then to from my understanding would be completely new or like yeah a new mic micro tech micro architecture Zen plus I feel like would be more like your element yeah the refinement or something like that so yeah maybe better performance for water or something like that but it'll be interesting to see AMD adapt something similar to the tik-tok cadence the Intel used to have yeah that would be kind of cool actually you can do Zen they do like microarchitecture and then add a plus for the refinements mm-hmm and then do another microarchitecture and then although at this point they're they're going to have difficulty shrinking the process node so I guess that would be more of a challenge indeed anyway though that is gonna conclude it that were tech news and my half the show it was a relatively short one because we were doing so Paul and I were tied up a little bit earlier today yeah doing a working on a special super-secret project which I guess we 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