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and sort of give you guys any sort of feedback and advice on how you can maybe up the look or the aesthetic of your system even even from a functional standpoint if we feel like some some hardware is a little bit mismatched or ever will give our own two cents no offense to Jay of course so the first submission comes from ominous psycho which sounds like a very stable fellow rockin a 6700 K that's the only tidbit of information he gave us about this system it looks like it's in one of those Corsair c c 400 or c for whatever it's the included on the motherboard layout he's got nice hairy legs he's got some hairy ass Legos I might not like hairy at like these are about as hairy as my legs are yeah but your legs are pretty hairy I've I mean intimate the reasonable experiences reason ladies yeah okay that's very true but I mean he's got sort of a nice little thing going on here I feel like this is quintessential RGB you've got you know some red LED fans plus like a white LED fan at the back but you've got green LEDs on your your your memory cooler and then some blue LEDs it looks like on the motherboard perhaps some little accents here and there so it kind of looks like a sort of a smorgasbord of LEDs which that might be your thing you could probably synchronize that if you wanted to that's totally up to you I feel like this is a pretty well-balanced build assuming that I mean that is a gtx 1070 which paired with a 6700 K seems right on par for me um cable management seems very clean as well I don't see any sort of loose just wires hanging out I like the end up the inverter is this a clear case yeah I believe that is a corsair case that's probably the 400 seat or did see yeah because I've got one of those lying around somewhere that still taking up space collecting dust but that is exactly what the internals look like you're right especially because you can see from the yeah yeah there it is there's another shot of it um yeah it's a really nice system honestly I feel like you know you can configure your LED strip it more matchy match Lube first it's there then it's not um honestly I don't really have much to critique here I feel yeah I mean this is a case this is a case thing but I do like that the optical drive is up there and in the end the little protected area with the power supply which means you can't see the optical drive crappiness true that's cool all right so mismatched LEDs other than that it's pretty great other than that looks pretty good yeah I don't know what to tell you I mean like what go all white I am he swapped these two fans for white and swapped here your thing here for wife you'd have kind of blue and white and that would match a little bit better yeah I don't know yeah just maybe maybe stick with something a little bit more coherence rather than four different colors narrow it down to three or maybe even two yeah I think that would blend in a little bit better I agree and you got blue on your motherboard so blues probably gotta be gotta be one of those colors yeah indeed thank you very much ominous next step we've got Patrick Patrick but the week this is a budget build FX 6300 rx 470 and an Rx 460 no he's using this for budget mining and tech 302 case three Nast drives needs help he says okay alright so honestly I can't it's it's hard to knock you for aesthetics here at least with your graphics cards not matching because you are using it for a purpose which is Bitcoin mining um but I could say I could tell you to maybe tighten up the cable management a little bit I feel like some of the cables are loosely flopping around at the bottom of the case there and obviously you don't have a chassis that has the best cable routing options so you are limited in that sense but I feel like it could be like a bit the hard drives are perfectly fine where they are that seems okay the cooler is nothing special I have this weird thing where I like my cooler to be vertically mounted so that it's a lot more long than it is wide that's just a personal preference of mine if that works for you then then so be it stick around the power supply if we were really talking aesthetics here could be removed just to sort of black it out and make it a little bit less jarring to the rest of the overall system um but yeah I mean apart from upgrading the overall chassis I feel like I don't know what else I would change yeah I mean an up an updated case here but definitely give you a lot more options for cable management and would look a lot better and you'd have potentially like a painted interior and that kind of thing but again working with what you've got it doesn't look too bad at all you don't know you don't have any ketchup and mustard going on or anything like that um I would say I agree with Kyle as far as at least rotating or reconfiguring your CPU cooler in particular your fan on the CPU or the cable is going over across the top that doesn't look too great but again you have a solid side panel so nothing you do in here is gonna visually change all that much so I'd say you know look into look at the case options you've got a solid system to work with here look in the sixty to eighty eighty dollar range cases because if a lot of you know like an s3 forty or something like that P 400 you can lips you can give yourself an updated building experience swapping this system into that and also give yourself something better to work with if you decide to upgrade your core system I agree cool thanks sir Andrus holidays GB thank you very much sir for this for this price I began our five arisin v 1600 X 370 gaming 5 16 gigs of DDR 4 at 3000 megahertz from Coursera s340 elite with an EVGA 500 watt and in r9 380 graphics Cod aesthetic wise pretty beautiful honestly it's Raymond for some extensions yes we are looking at maybe some black or white extensions would be great because the ketchup and mustard here is not doing you any favors in the cosmetic department is also what the s340 you have a nice option here to bring your cables straight up from from the power supply basement and the daisy chain thing going on here with your default power supply is is what stands out most to me that and of course to catch up on muster cables from there so a 40-ish 250 dollar investment I think in a sleeved cable extension for your 24 pin absolutely 2 PCI es from the from the graphics card yeah will give you a much cleaner look everything else looks beautiful yeah very solid yeah heck yeah brah um yeah well done thank you onto this and then next time we've got Evan Evan and bond Evan prot rate Evan with at NZXT source 513 azrog z7t z77 extreme for hey 2707 gots my jam right there 4x4 16 gig sapphire nitro r9 390 dust is life dust is love okay um well let's see all right the first thing that stands out to me as it does with most budget builds or most systems in general is the brown PCB on the other board yep I feel like it looks like someone just pooped in your system and just spread it all around your motherboard that's what it looks like it looks like big big ole poop that's that great turd emoji right there um and then everything else looks fine you have a really solid power supply stickers upside down get rid of that sticker just remove it he cut it off or something yep um and then beyond that I think your case is solid too yeah um you're just I think I think at this point you're you're kind of biding your time for your next core system upgrade because swapping that the motherboard CPU memory getting yourself up to a ddr4 platform and everything whether it's arisin or an Intel platform yeah I think it'd be a great option but the good news is like your core stuff in here like your case power supply are looking good like so you've got a you've got a good foundation to build on I think yeah even that car the r9 390 is excellent and and as good as the 2700 K is I feel like that's probably the most dated thing in here so and also furthest from an aesthetic standpoint that's probably also the best way that you could upgrade the look of your system is get a new motherboard and and obviously you have to go with a new CPU with that too so yeah yeah so that's what I would say cool that's what I would say take you heaven thanks Evan next up we've got uh Adonai Adonai is a Valletta thank you very much I'm sorry for mispronouncing it's but you've got an AMD FX 8350 a gigabyte 990 FX AUD three hyper X ddr3 kit of 1866 four gigs by 2n mm MSI Radeon 7850 twin frozer two gddr5 okay um cable management comes to mind I guess further than that looks like wires are just sort of just going from A to B the the shortest way they can without any sort of thought of cable grommets or routing holes extensions would do you some favours as well as we've mentioned in the past ketchup and mustard is not the most ideal when it comes to tricking out the look of your system overall I'm curious if all right so so you've got an 8 pin like a your supplemental CPU connector which is routed here I mean underneath I'll be honest if you're going to write it this way this is the way you should do it you passed it through that very small gap between the graphics card and the i/o in the back and the PCIe slot which there's just barely enough space to fit a cable through but like Cal said getting cable extensions and utilizing the cable management on this on this case because you do have space behind the motherboard tray here with this half case from from Coolermaster you might not have enough room or enough length on this cable to get it up and around with an extension yeah but an extension might allow you to do that it would also allow you to do that with the 24 pin and then beyond that like not to mention he's got that the shroud by the power supply that could fit a lot of that excess cabling yeah where you can you know your mains F in right if you doesn't have much room behind the motherboard tray yeah a good option beyond that the cables that are sticking out or like fan cables that kind of thing so for that you'd probably have to either sleeve them or buy new fans or something like that which may or may not be worth your while but at least I'd say excuse me like getting some I don't know some what's what's a what the Spray stuff set you know talking about no no I don't uh stuff's espresso with the spray stuff spray paint buzz like plastic Oh plastidip plastic this I guess it's the word I'm like thank you Placid it might be away a quick way of tidying up those cables yeah that's concern for me I could work um but thank you very much Adonai for that submission that's gonna conclude it for pin my PC we can move on to some tech news here no the first of which comes from reddit actually this is a redditer who spotted a product page on NCIX gum I feel like I always have to say ncx comment Dimitri's voice NCIX dot Colm said how he does it I neither a partner so they yeah yeah they do the a frequent frequent shoutouts and stuff but there have been there's actually been an X 299 board that's been listed on NC XCOM that's allegedly only supporting Katie Lake X and this would be the first of which that we've heard of this was the MSI X 299 m gaming Pro carbon AC which is a micro ATX motherboard and on the product page it states support and I quote support 7th gen Intel Kubelik X processors only does it say that um go up to the top perhaps right there yep so there's not even a picture there's not even a picture attached to it so it makes it a little bit sketchy but I guess we could just sort of discuss this in the sense that does this make sense to have X 299 motherboards only supporting kay be like X processors I feel like it makes the whole launch seem a little less confusing in the sense that if you were to have KB like ex exclusive motherboards you would have you you wouldn't need to have eight DIMM slots that's for sure you could get away with four and we need more beer so which were you about that getting him again white water life so let me just let me just let me just continue what Kyle was saying there I am pissed off I am super pissed off about whatever it is the cat was talking about I was paying very close attention and I'm very familiar with things he was talking about they're upsetting to me and I just want to communicate that with you guys that me being upset is the thing it's a result of what Kyle was talking about and there's there's no there's there's there's no debate here there's nothing to argue about it's it's fucked up it's a fucked up situation just gonna have to deal with it healthy comes back with more beer soon beers myself I had to get the beers myself because it was already downstairs cooking dinner she's completely useless well is she doing cooking dinner when she's supposed to be getting a beer I woman hell they're not even sandwiches okay uh yes sir thank you all right so what we're saying we're gonna keep you like ex exclusive motherboards so in theory so we're talking about if that were the case you would have fewer traces and and fewer PCB layers that would have to be engineered into the board because QB like ex you know let's be honest can't support a lot of things that sky like X can so it doesn't make sense to have a single motherboard that has to support a range of six CPUs ranging from 16 to 44 PCIe lanes I'll say this in that sense it would be a cheaper board overall for the end user which micro ATX or mini ITX I don't I don't know that there's going to be the possibility of Mini ITX with this platform it's the same socket size it uses the same coolers as x99 and asrock did do a mini ITX x99 motherboard so one one board so that's possible and it was also kind of it wasn't there that one went to s Oh dibs on it my did we talk about that next - I'll figure it out later um but point being if they were going to make a KB Lake X only version of an X $2.99 motherboard doing it in a smaller form factor would at least makes some somewhat more sense because the missing PCI Express Lanes for connectivity from the cable effects processor would not be able to be used anyway because you don't have the larboard expensive expansion slots towards bottom I will say in my video about KB Lake X and the X 299 platform and talking about what happens with different motherboards when you plug in that 16-lane processor that's one thing that always happened that bottom most PCI Express explained expansion slot it's pretty much is always gone I just didn't function anymore so smaller board you don't need that slot anyway and then maybe that makes more sense yeah and the thing I've been considering is if you wanted to make right now even with the advent of thread Ripper the fastest gaming system possible you'd probably look at you probably do it on kb like x true so true and and and and here's the other thing is like while while a micro ATX version of a kb like x exclusive x to 99 motherboard would make more sense than what's currently available I still feel like overall that still makes less sense than just having cable x kb like exon z to 70 because because at the other day even if you're able to reduce the price of an x 299 board to the price of a z an entry-level z 270 board that would support kb like x you're still losing out on the eye GPU in a sense so I just I just don't see why there is a need to migrate to a completely new platform I feel like this is a processor KT like X is a processor family that should be eligible to just upgrade from a-z 270 platform if you have a 7700 K you should just be able to take that out and swap it swap in a KB like X chip there should be no need to swap out the motherboard as well it should have been a double socket it should have been it should have been at that would have been epic AF so if you look at like the like gamers Nexus for example Steve and friends have a deal itting you have a deleted you have a deleted 77 40 X I do so did you look at the PCB the PCB of the chip yeah it's a double PCB is it yeah there's the wider PCB that's the same size as all of the LGA 2066 CPUs uh-huh and then there's a secondary substrate that's above it that sits on top of that you're talking about underneath the IHS yeah under that HS no no mine was already sort of melded together so I didn't want to like take it apart or anything like that oh so yours was deleted but you didn't you never actually separated it correct it was given to me already deleted and put back on so I never got to see the actual die underneath oh it's just you know well if you if you watch the gamers Texas video that's one of the things that they talk about what's the fact that there's this weird situation where you have a PCB for the for the LGA 2066 and then you have what looks like a smaller PCB that's kind of integrated up on top of that for the KB Lake X CPUs so obviously this isn't the thing and everything but what like how crazy would it be if that if you could just pop that off you know and it was somehow socketed in there and it was just a 7700 k yeah you know and then you can take any 7700 like pop it in that little adapter and then slot it into 20 66 that'd be fun that would be so much more practical yeah and like oh then you have an upgrade path like you know grab your 7700 KZ 270 system right now and then you know in a few months when X 299 board prices come down grab one of those you get the little adapter pop in here 7700 an upgrade path all the way right Wow Intel could have had such a different reaction to this entire platform if they had homely somehow figured out how to do that which is probably entirely impossible yep with the Z height and everything modulus DP use but that would be yeah loose exhausting sure yeah yeah um at any rate finish the end of the day you know the the feedback on this launch has been overall very mixed you guys can let us know what you think about it in chat I believe we just got our core i9 samples from Intel yes today so this is obviously a full 24 hours plus after the NDA has lifted and I personally feel about you Paul I feel like the pressure to you know create content around the CPU after long after the NBA has lifted has sort of diminished to a degree I I see it as a challenge yeah make content that's a little bit more different and perhaps unique yeah than just a standard review yeah so like for instance if I gotten the 7900 X a week ago I would have run benchmarks on it and I would have done a video that was a pretty standard benchmark video which we saw a good amount of with 7900 X and even people at 7800 X's in 1720 X's yesterday there were plenty of excellent reviews from an antic yep I read PC PC perspective sure gamers Nexus Haggard had very excellent reviews testing lots of different softwares in lots of different situations yeah and like the avx-512 stuff and all that kind of stuff but I got quite a few comments on my video because I I wasn't able to do that kind of review because of time and when I got the processor and everything but I was like I was kind of forced to do so as I car I need to do something that's a little different a bit of a different take on this and I should think it kind of worked out well because people like you know a lot of times there's these embargo lifts a lot of the tech reviewers I'll post kind of the same contents mm-hmm whereas now like some of the stuff's a little bit makhmour mixed up so um the same reason why I was kind of excited that I was given a deal ended chip because I knew it would be something a little bit different than what most reviewers would have and I feel like you know based on like the feedback and stuff that people were interested to see what what keep you like xD lighted could do especially because you know it is known for the higher I PC than the core i9 sky like X area yeah um so that was kind of cool but yeah I totally know what you mean and I think I think your video turned out really well honestly thank you it was a nice refreshing launch video so if you guys if any guys watched my video and here at all interested in the behind the scenes stuff my video I was intending cuz like I did I shot the stuff for that video I sent it over to my editor Joe on Sunday morning and then I had some Father's Day stuff to do Sunday afternoon and evening and then I came back and he had the edit done and I took it and then yesterday I spent like another 8 hours on the video basically because I was like I need to make this more accessible for people so I did a bunch of graphics and like you know like little arrows that pop up at things you know just like that kind of thing like all those little things every little element like that like takes a bit of time so I spent a lot of time on that to try to make it as accessible for people as possible so if you guys haven't checked it out please do and yeah the feedback has been really good so awesome thanks to all you guys who have been saying good things about that and sharing it and everything for sure alright so I guess on that note we can move on to our next story which is about future mark announcing their test driver benchmark automation software yeah this is probably more exciting news for reviewers like me and Paul or perhaps you know people who are like analysts or you know hardware companies and things like that this is basically an article first off from tech power up so thank you guys automation software for reviewers that is going to let users script and automate your own selection of benchmark so while there are no built-in benchmarks that are part of this suite itself it is a is going to allow us to script any any sort of automated benchmarks that we want to run with this program so that's pretty cool future mark is offering email support to customers for integrating benchmarks with the app though this is this is a huge thing for potentially for me and Paul and another review was like us because benchmarking takes a lot of time um it's it's I mean at the like I guess it's a big picture of things like you could just boil it down to just clicking some settings you know tuning some settings and hitting run but if you could because you could actually as a if you're reviewing something and you've run benchmarks before it's like I know the next five benchmarks I'm going to run I know the settings I'm going to set them to right and it's like if I can have software that automatically recognizes when one is done and queues up the next one and records the information and everything and does that work of me then I can move on to doing other stuff like getting footage of the product I'm talking about or testing something else because this is the main problem with benchmarking for me when you're benchmarking for a big launch or something like that it's the fact that you have to keep an eye on it regularly so you can set something to auto run or whatever like let's say it's Metro last light it has a nice built in benchmark you can set it to run but as soon as it's done after that 2 or 3 minute phase you have to set it to go again for the next resolution that you want to test that and then you have to switch that to your next game let's say it's GTA 5 you constantly have to babysit your your benchmark system with an automated software like this if you could just script all of that it would save a tremendous amount of time and you could actually go about filming let's say a 10 15 minute video without any sort of interruptions and still get all of your benchmarking done at the same time which would be a tremendous time savings for for the average reviewer so something like this is very something to get excited about I feel like if you are here yourself or you just are you know have a reason to test your PC hardware this is pretty cool again future mark is offering email email support to customers right off the bat who need help integrating the benchmarks with the app it's also one of the things that um so so there's there's lots of well-known established trusted review websites out there and there's quite a few of them that WCF tech it's not who I was referring to oh but there's quite a few of them that have some level of automation that they've developed kind of home-brewed right into their testing and that they're very secretive about which I don't know how to do that if I if I did I would sure as hell wouldn't share with you well I'd save it court it to myself I mean anytime you can look at a review and you can see like a just the lists and lists of benchmarks they have with a bunch of different processors and a bunch of different configurations and everything time goes into to creating all those numbers and anything that can be done to reduce the amount of time that goes into those numbers is extremely helpful for anyone who's a full time reviewer indeed so again I agree next up we've got an article about the Microsoft Surface laptop which recently received a zero out of ten that's a great score for repairability this is an article from overclocked 3d net iFixit the very popular sort of a you know deconstructed a company gave it a 0 out of 10 for repairability calling it not a laptop but a glue filled monstrosity glue filled monstrous which I would imagine means you cannot really take it apart it's kind of glued together um if you were to service or maintenance it in anyway you probably have to take it to a Microsoft expert which seems very Apple ask IMO even iFixit experts according to the article we're unable to dissect the device without inflicting major damage that's not great and they even claimed the battery is dangerous to replace dangerous dangerous to replace because you could puncture something there might be some lithium-ion gas that the leaks out and and and you know impregnates you or something that's how it works right so the other thing is that the CPU memory and on-board storage are all non replaceable this is not a very Pro consumer product in terms of servicing and upgrade ability um I fix it went on to say that this is not a fix it yourself device it forces users well they didn't say this but the article went on to say that the sort of forces users to get the longest warranty possible in case they ever need the laptop serviced or replaced so that kind of sucks I mean I feel like usually like if I go to like a store or even like buy something on Amazon like a like a device like this and ask me do you want the extended warranty I always say no oh yeah because I'm like I can just fix it myself I I have no problem doing it myself I don't need someone else to tale this for me but if I were buying this device I feel like I would be sort of more or less pressured into buying into the extended warranty just knowing that I could not just take a screwdriver to the dome and crack it open myself without doing some serious damage to the system so I always say no to the extended warranty for a different reason um because because warranty because you know you're gonna void it anyway cuz I used to work at Newegg and I know how much pure profit is off of warranties is in those extended warranties yeah well warranties are never for because you're likely gonna use it it's for like the people who are scared and it's for the small percentage of people right yeah I need it but they not gonna apply to you much but the extended warranties are mostly pure profit for anyone who sells them of course you know you know the margins on them and that makes it makes it a bit more skeptical to buy into them absolutely so um I don't know just beware if you're gonna buy a Microsoft Surface laptop then and hey if if Microsoft catches any flack for this for the fact that they built their surface laptop essentially like a MacBook with everything glued together and so many upgradability and or anything like that every shred of it then maybe the next time around they'll take some more consideration to providing some expandability or something like that who knows maybe maybe not or maybe it's just really challenging to build something that that's that small and light and everything without just gluing all the shit together now you can totally go ahead yeah they're lazy being late alright next article is about a web host that has agreed recently to pay 1 million dollars after being hit by a line mix of white x6 Wow but after I will said Linus Linus ransomware by olymic targeting ransomware little Isis targeting ransomware would be a the latest way that Linus meteor group is making tons of money I believe their Twitter accounts been hacked before so that was a witness Oh - a line is targeting resuture soon cuz reducing so this article comes from Ars Technica thank you very much folks over there this is about a South Korean web host naina probably some relation to nyan cat they said that their initial ransom was nearly 4.5 million dollars but the company negotiators brought it down and eventually settled for just over 1 million dollars paid to a ransomware operation that encrypted the data stored on 153 Linux servers and 3400 customer websites so you see you're like you know let's say you're like GoDaddy or something and you basically get hacked or you get stuck with this ransomware where 3400 of your customers are now complaining and out of a website and can't log on or whatever can't service their own users and so you end up paying 1 million dollars to get all of that encryption handled that's that's a lot of money 1 million dollars to some scumbag attackers is pretty insane the ransomware itself for those of you curious to know how you could get a million dollars in the future is a rebus Erebus Erebus Erebus paul you're better at pronouncing things than I am you nervous e re B us I'm gonna say Erebus Erebus was previously limited to attacking windows-based systems but was recently modified modified to infiltrate those running Linux as well so it's possible that the attackers also exploited a back door or a vulnerability into the web hosting services loosely patched software so apparently the South Korean web host wasn't all that solid to begin with in terms of its you know backdoor prevention things like that the quest here is I I was thinking about this earlier like after reading this article would you pay off a ransomware attacker or an operation if they hijacked some sort of digital property that was deemed important to you such as maybe your YouTube channel they were holding it hostage you know people couldn't view your content or whatever and they were demanding a ransom and they guaranteed you promise and let's say you knew that they were good with their word that if you pay them the allotted amount that they would restore your channel back to normal would you pay up which would you would you honor the ransom or would you I hold back and sort of you know say Fu I think it's important to distinguish the difference here between something like ransomware and something like a YouTube channel being taken over something like that if they were yeah if they were to take over to my youtube channel that would be something like you know they would need to get the my passwords or something like that they would need to be basically be able to take control of my channel by by accessing the accounts that control that channel sure ransomware is something more like there's been an infiltration on these servers all of the data that's in there has been encrypted the data is now encrypted and you need the encryption key in order to decrypt it so you can access the information that's being stored right so what I would say is in this situation where it's something like my channel is being compromised or something like that I can't say exactly how I'd respond to that but I would at least in theory have some expectation that YouTube has some backups in place there's been plenty of situations in the past where channels have been taken over and the hacker goes in and deletes all the videos or something like that but then you to be able to go in and restore everything so in that situation I might be more inclined to say you know what I'm not going to work with these hackers I'm not going to pay them any money because based on everything I am confident enough that I can get in touch with YouTube and they can work through the situation to restore my channel yeah in this situation you have a business that's specifically providing Internet they're providing web hosting for lots of other companies that work for them and all of the data that those companies have provided to the web hosting company has now been encrypted and has now locked unless it's unless they do something about it so this situation it's a web hosting company that has negotiated with the hackers to cut the 4.5 million dollar ransom down to 1 million dollars to get something that the hackers get paid the company gets their information back the employer that the the merge the customers of that company get their information back and they can they can restore their services and continue to provide them with the services that assume presumably those third-party companies are paying a you know some kind of fee to that company for right so in this case obviously the hackers are shitty and like you know shouldn't be ransoming stuff but everyone kind of gets paid and that kind of distributing to the point where like they can continue doing business obviously it's going to hurt their bottom line but it's I think it's a slightly different situation than some individual who gets their their contents or you know who gets a virus on their computer something like that it's as encryption on everything so you're saying if they hijack your YouTube channel you wouldn't pay them off because YouTube can technically have the backups to restore your channel back to normal whereas if you were a web hosting service like this one that we're talking about then you're kind of more on your own and you'd be more subject to no I well I think in this situation the web hosting service made a business decision yeah they were like look it's going to cost us this much money to get our data back or it's going to cost us this much money because all of the all the companies that are doing business with us are going to go elsewhere because suddenly their web sites don't work anymore but doesn't that also send a message to other operations that you are willing to pay up if people are just able to encrypt your data like that's why we don't negotiate with terrorists as Americans because then it seems like they have a grip over us and some degree there's love Ridge there that you've now established saying I'll pay up whatever you asked for maybe you'll be negotiated but the other day you'll get something out of attacking me I think you or I coming from a separate not having money invested in this situation we have any chance can say that because yes like if the if the hackers never get money then theoretically the hackers will stop doing the stuff because they're not profiting from it true but from the business perspective of this company they probably did what was in their best interest as a business and theoretically if they're talking about this amount of money that's being transferred back or one way or the other to get their data back they're going through channels they're in some way secure there's have some assurance of getting the money back so yeah obviously it's not an ideal situation sure but what I would say anyone who is looking at this story should take into consideration is that whereas Windows has for quite a while bin the playground of hacking and viruses and everything because it's the most used operating system by the most individuals who are the least likely to have proper protections in place for viruses and malware and that kind of thing yep to understand and appreciate that there is a realm of hacking beyond that that does influence Linux and that does potentially influence Apple platforms and that's they're not exempt from that and they need they need to be careful and they need to put the proper protections in place as well it's very thorough answer yeah that's the most I can say about that I wholeheartedly agree with you Paul okay um but I think that's probably about as much time you spend on that for now so let's go ahead and move on to our last article with the tech news for today which is about the Supreme Court's striking down near North Carolina law prohibiting sex offenders from using social media saying that it's unconstitutional so Justice Kennedy just good old Justice Kennedy said and I quote a fundamental principle of fur amendment of the First Amendment is that all persons have access to places where they can speak and listen and then after reflection speak and listen once more of course adding the digital spacing including Facebook and Twitter are also protected under the First Amendment so the case in question that was centered around this whole thing was centered around a sex offender okay just just imagine sex offender all right we all know what that looks like who was prosecuted after making a Facebook post about beating a not a child a traffic ticket he made a post about beating a traffic ticket saying thank God I can't believe I got out of the traffic ticket what good luck I have that was it there was nothing about like you know touching little kids or any any sort of weird sexual activity thing like it was just use just a regular Facebook post but yet he was prosecuted for making that statement online and so based on the court sort of a statistics here apparently over 1,000 people in North Carolina have been prosecuted for violating the law whether it's you know you're posting a picture of your kid or you're saying just you know oh I feel I feel great today on Facebook or Twitter you can get fined in North Carolina but mister Kennedy Justice Kennedy was like no no I'm gonna drop some more wisdom on you and he went on to say by prohibiting sex offenders from using those websites North Carolina with one broad-stroke bars access to what for many are the principal sources for knowing current events checking ads for employment speaking and listening in the modern public square and otherwise exploring the vast realms of human thought and knowledge I feel like I feel like Kennedy knows what's going on here Justice Kennedy here um so I mean at the other day even if you're a heinous sex offender social media has gotten to the point now with with the breath of the Internet and just how common is I feel like it's just it's just it's the same as talking in a way right it's just the ability to express yourself on a completely different platform whether it be talking to a person than in real life or someone on the phone or through the Internet I mean we're not gonna ban sex offenders from speaking in public or from calling their friends on the telly so I feel you know I think I think me and the judge share the same mentality where it's like well you know social media is just another platform for communication you shouldn't like BAM you should ban them from playgrounds okay banned them from playgrounds maybe but not from Instagram necessarily unless they're posting you know dick pics to teenagers that's a different story then but for the most part I I feel like I sort of stand by this stand by this ruling um it is possible however that there are specific websites like those aimed at young people like it's you know teen flesh com all right what that I don't even know if that's a website I don't know why where that URL came from should probably uh I hope it's Elvis not hey what if that's an actual like a horrible horrible website that people know everyone's would be like okay let's just people now think that you're like a regular patient of or something like that that's awful okay I don't know why I said that but um anyway I don't know why we're discussing this is this story in general everyone this oh this is this is such a there's so many potholes with discussion and I self in them I was like Mowbray they should they should block people from free speech ah yeah you're not gonna have anyone arguing with that like Oh sex offenders should be able to have more freedoms yeah no one's gonna argue with that either I'm noticing though this is a horrible thing to scat has already turned against me calling me a pedo right I'm not a pedo good lord this is I'm simply reporting on a dick signatory requires like some subtle nuance does it like discussion details that I feel like we're completely incapable of providing right now let's just get the hashtag piles of pedo and chat yes get that trending on Twitter ASAP tweet my wife she'll be so thrilled to hear that I've been a part of this movement she's not watching the show no I highly doubt it and for good reason but she'll probably find it eventually anyway hashtag causa pedo I've never been more proud um let's move on to our next let's move on to our next segment which is the games report hey gamez yay let's talk about video games where pedophilia is not even anywhere near the conversation that sounds good I love this topic great let's let's talk about first off Hitman being available for free yeah the loophole they're only the beginning of hitman just play the beginning of hitman for free not the entirety of hitman so I'm I'll interactive by the way this comes from overclocked 3d net thank you very much for the article thank you for people who have already clipped the teen flesh comp segment love you stash growth d3 beautiful alright so IO Interactive which is the developer for this game has announced that they're making the opening of hitman 2016 free-to-play for gamers on all platforms PC you know Xbox one ps4 and all those other inferior platforms giving them access to the games I see a facility missions with no strings attached so you don't have to buy into anything you can just play some of the fee Olivia the first two missions I believe of the game completely free is sort of a promo offering it includes two story missions to escalation contracts and overall the 40 challenge missions which you keep you entertained for a while the free downloadable version launches today IO Interactive has also stated that they are going to reduce the cost of the game with a 60% discount for a limited time also if you were sort of on the fence about picking up the new the newest hitman game might now might be the chance to do it and that now might be the time take advantage then stop hash tagging cows with PETA alright uh yeah hit man um I used it for benchmarking I'm sure Paul does too once in a while not for a while but not for a while but I usually take care the Hitman metric yeah yeah hit mehit mans fun you can hide bodies and dumpsters and all that sort of thing next up we've got Diablo to a potential remaster might be happening this is an article from PC gamer PC games n spotted a job listing for classic games in Irvine California for the UI and UX visual designer look at look at how Diablo 2 used to look like yeah look at that yeah it looks like shit it looks like total ass I can't I want to go plate like like my butthole all these skeletons go to them developed a better than might have dropped a legendary though any of those skeletons could drop a legendary and it would still look like shit you should keep killing those skeletons until one of them drops the legendary always killed skill and then if the RNG on these specs on the legendary don't fall wait no see I'm getting confused now oh there was well there was a point in time with the legendaries like there was there was random specs and then there were fixed specs I don't know I played the elbow to like twice first I we ever played Diablo 2 at first three months I played like and it was all I did like that was my entire life was Diablo 3 or Diablo 2 I was like 3 months 3 months all I did was Diablo 2 and then it's like oh god ok I'm I'm wiped out like I've awakened out I'm like I'm a fine I'm fine and then like five or six months went by where I didn't play at all and then like something happened I sigh gosh maybe I'll try that again and then like two more months went by that's like Oh God and all I've done is played Diablo 2 for two solid months is ruining my life like my education has gone to shit like I dropped out of school I was very like for UFC I'm lucky of no nice to have have been in college when Diablo 2 was not a technique it's very so I feel like that's probably the make-or-break whether or not you graduate from college is based on when Diablo 2 launched during that period you look like this the juggernaut the the the enemies that would spawn and they have he's like a demon yes extra strong he's extra fast and then he's Krueger dagger Coeur de Groote Krita gonna go murder burgle whatever they're nothing is credibly there were there random enemies that could spawn like if they had that yes they had the wrong combination of immunities that you couldn't touch right we're just be like did they destroy you cuz like anything you did healed them because like oh I have like I cast fire spells like oh they absorb fire and heals them there's nothing I can do like I gonna die just whip them with my whip hair but it was challenging and that's why a lot of people were in her into it yeah I feeI feel like diablo ii definitely made waves that diablo 3 did not and I feel like since Diablo 3 was so highly anticipated following a legendary title that it just sort of fell fell short of the mark of what be a blow to instilled in PC gamers back in the day because you have to remember Diablo 2 launched in 2000 whereas Diablo 3 was 12 years later in 2012 so there was a lot of hype being built up for for a sequel and when it finally dropped when Diablo 3 finally dropped it didn't quite have the same magical effect on its users that the catalog censor did the cowl levels while the Cal levels legendary I also I also had the problem of like like there was this economy like right if you played World of Warcraft you know starting in 2005 up through you know now or whatever World of Warcraft has an economy like a lot of the World of Warcraft economy and I think how they sort of tried to craft that was based around certain things that just developed naturally from the Diablo 2 economy like India blow to the default item that you would use as the basic level of trade was a stone of Jordan which was a unique ring that would fall and somehow people would collect enough of them that they could like trade them back and forth and I remember just trying to trying to play enough of the game and gather enough loot and and you know scrape it all together and enough pile that I could trade it to stuff just that I could get one stone of Jordan like to that point and then people are like oh like 40 stones of Jordan for this like thing or whatever I'm like what it's great you know yeah likes ridiculous or whatever so anyways the old-school crypto girls sounds a gorge we should we should do some storms of stones of Jordan crypto mining yeah that would be a great crypto currency like I'm a name for a crypto currency stones Georgian have yes just mine 20 stones of Jordan recently have a soon so just get some etherium bullshit yeah alright let's move on to our next time this is gonna be the last time we talk about you can ignore the other tabs that are in there because we're cutting enough okay have we were fitting in time here but users are mad users guys are so mad super bad so mad about mods being taken away in GTA 5 rightfully so this is an article from GameSpot commenting on rockstars parent company take two who has shut down popping the popular modding tool open for or open IV which is leaving many gamers to lash out with negative reviews and petitions so modding as we all know and GTA 5 is a huge thing people mod in GTA 5 whether it be upgrades or modifications to the car mechanics the vehicle mechanics in the game the weapon mechanics being able to play as The Incredible Hulk and jump around and scale buildings or be spider-man or whatever the heck it is modding has been a huge huge community it's been a huge community in GTA 5 in the last year or two but that has all been sort of shut down in a sense with open four which is a huge modding tool a huge modding software being shut down by take-two parent company of rock star look at the recent recent review yes so theme are overwhelmingly negative yes so of the 42,000 user reviews written in the last 30 days only 13% have been positive label the gate labeling the game's average user feedback rating on Steam as overwhelmingly negative this is a game that has sold over 80 million copies that was overwhelmingly positive before this whole ordeal but just the fact that they've that take-two is taken away mods and gone out of their way to eliminate the modding community for this game has resulted in a complete backlash across the board when it comes to how the games being received so the top review according to this article states the top review simply states on behalf of the open for Team asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk you with hearts in place of the asterisks I would imagine there's a not-so-pleasant word in place of those cards say priming fuck you they probably mean fuck you yeah thank you for stating the obvious now now that's been edited now to include a link that that leads to a petition on change.org which requests Rockstar allow the continuation of open for claiming all modding used by open for is for single-player use only to make the game more enjoyable the software open for was never used to mod multiplayer or Grand Theft Auto online so it doesn't harm anyone now this is a claim that Rockstar disputes saying that open for enables recent malicious mods that that allow harassment of players and interfere with the GTA 5 online experience for everybody so so here's the deal Rockstar doesn't really seem to care whether or not you use mods for single-player it's their other GTA 5 online that they care about because that's how they make their money that makes sense and then they make their money by people of spending real IRL dough for GTA 5 bucks so that they can buy a yacht or a Maserati or whatever the hell but if people are modding in online use that they're potentially just giving money away I mean I remember being in a server once in GTA 5 online completely unbeknownst to me some guy just ran up to me and just like dropping like he was like he did some like weird voodoo thing music okay walk around walk around like move around like start walking and I started walking and everywhere I walk just money would fall out of my butt and I'd like come around and like go around and pick it up I was like basically eating my own money poop that's nice and I was like this is weird but I love money so I'm gonna do it and so I guess that's what rock star is really trying to combat here but obviously the backlash has been tremendous and so already the petition here has already signed 55,000 signatures of its 75k goal but in the grand scheme of things that's still a very small fraction when you consider the total user base of GTA 5 selling over 80 million copies it's hard to believe that this sort of petition will really change take twos mind on how they're going to better protect the integrity of GTA 5 online so ultimately you guys like I understand them trying to protect their online environment not only do they have a vested interest in making sure that people can't use hacks or other software workarounds to get themselves money rather than paying rockstar for the in-game money but also they have a vested interest in making sure that the online experience remains at least relatively fair for people and then people can't use hacks or anything like that to gain an advantage over other players that they might have otherwise had to spend you know tons of tons of times in game to you know get those resources of that kind of thing at the same time though like with with PC gaming like the modding community is huge like that's one of the one of the big reasons why PC gaming is so awesome is because there's so many games that have come out that have had some base level of functionality or base level of gameplay that people have enjoyed so much that they've gone and taken whatever open-source tools are made available by the game developers to actually take that game and bring it to new heights by developing new versions of it or whatever like look at something like dota or likely like League of Legends like none of that would have existed if it wasn't for blizzards making the modding tools for the first Starcraft and for our World of Warcraft available for people to create a completely new different style of game yeah um that hadn't existed before I think that's one of the things that makes the PC platform unique is the ability to create modifications in games and sort of breathe new life into the game I feel like if I were a developer that it would almost be like flattery to me that people were modifying my game and you know kind of adding like contributing to it I feel like that's exactly what I would want for a video game I would personally develop but I guess when you're on the scale of Rockstar intake to where you are simply just in it for the money and you're trying to profit 100% off of it through in-game transactions then something like mods put poses a potential threat I feel like if there were if there were zero mods that affected the monetary gain of users that we probably wouldn't be seeing this sort of um sort of excess I don't mind I think they would take action unless it was affecting their Plus it was hurting their bottom line yeah but it would be it would be good to see some sort of in-between like I'd love to see Rockstar develop their software whatever whatever tools they currently have in place to prevent people who have modified software from affecting their game especially when it comes to the online situation yeah I'd like to see them develop that further to create more of a separation between the single-player and the multiplayer environment so multiplayer can still exist and Rockstar can still make their money but single-player can still have a full like like flourishing modding community as well yeah like I'd like I'd like to see that that kind of best of both worlds and that's that's like sort of the shitty thing about this is that it's the few it's the very few modders in the community who are giving like money away in online that are ruining it for the rest of us who jus just want like nice texture packs in GTA 5 like what's what's the harm in having better graphics and have having better visual fidelity in your and your single-player campaign yeah absolutely nothing but because some asshole decided to give 5 trillion dollars to some dude on an online server somewhere none of us can have access to that so it is it is just like sort of the typical you know herd mentality or like you know just how society is one person ruins the whole bunch for the rest of us and it's kind of unfortunate and I totally empathize with all the negative reviews that are going around to Rockstar right now but I don't know all I can say is stay strong hopefully hopefully we can you know that this doesn't dishearten the modding community in the long run and that we can still see some really awesome mods for other games moving forward and potentially even GTA 6 when that debut is one day so on that note though um that's going to close it out for tech news and games reports let's go ahead and read off some of the donations that you guys have left in chat this is your last chance to donate if you want something stupid that's read aloud by me and Paul go ahead and donate in chat right now otherwise forever hold your peace the first of which is from Nana boo garlic or Abba jarvik I'm not sure exactly how I pronounce that it's four five canadian and it's just five canadian there's no message attached thank you very much not and I appreciate that Andrew a meal for the five dollars what is a budget gaming monitor family man on a budget so I would say budget is probably under 250 I'm sorry 150 I'd say under under 150 um look I don't have anything in specific best 1080 IPS maybe a 27-inch yeah around 27 inch 1080 IPS if you can get higher refresh rate than 60 Hertz look for it if you can get better color reproduction than 8-bit 8-bit will be your what is seventeen point six million colors 10 bit will be your one point zero seven billion colors yeah but yeah see if you can find a 10 bit IPS 1080 panel for 150 H dollars yeah that's what I would say under 180 you can get a really solid monitor for the specs that post and definitely if you have an AMD card or if you have a tree shaker is impossible every sink with an AMD and look for G sink with Nvidia you're not going to get a budget juicing panel that probably won't be able to find a budget G sink panel but it's definitely worth your while to look for the adaptive frame rate technology indeed Daniel Collins $5 already have a gtx 1070 so do i sli or gtx 1080i build is a i7 6800 okay four point three gigahertz saber-tooth xx 99 and so forth um I would say go for the gtx 980ti yeah especially if you can sell your 1070 and put some of that money that you've you got probably widget a $450 plus for your 1070 right now invest that in a 1080i and you'll be very happy yeah I think that would probably even outperform the 1070 SLI in most of the applications desk Jones and Dolan did you see all the OSI 3d review on the 78 20x EP review Hyo seeded to 5 gigahertz with very low voltage but it became a toaster who equals Intel failed toothpaste shit instead of soldered uh yeah there's definitely been plenty of deleting going on of the KP like X and C I like X processors and in fact when I was at Computex that's what durbar showed me was just his stack of deleted cpus and definitely that's something that can be swapped out to give you yourself a better overclocking experience yeah it's still too early to say just a blanket statement like don't do that or yes you need to do that or anything like that right um but yeah and that does seem to be an issue for 7900 X in particular seems to be running warm a lot of the reviews I read said that that we're getting pretty hot with that CPU right and anything that can be done to reduce that is going to be on the table I think for people especially enthusiasts yeah and if the lighting is one of those things then so be it honestly with like devours deleting tool how simple it works after testing out the 77 40 X that I had which was deleted like the temperature reduction is insane but it's crazy that demo said the living tool that he at least when he gave me is so he's working on the one for the for the LG at 2066 socket but when it comes to the higher core count CPUs the high core count CPUs 12 14 16 and 18 cores those actually have a much larger die that's in there and what he said was when you're trying to deal it those there's so little room between the heat spreader on top and the die that's underneath you have really limited amount of room to like push it to the side and that's what his deleting tool does it applies pressure to the side of the heat spreader on top to move it enough to break the seal between those I mean it could damage it since they're so little yes so what he's saying is this music slide it might squeeze me really really really challenging or it's potentially going to be really really challenging for the hike or count X 299 Intel processors to actually deal it or to actually delete delayed reliably because any movement to that heat spreader on top is going to either conflict with the die itself or it's going to conflict with other surface mount components that are on top of the PCB interesting but all that story means to be seen since those high core count CPUs are still kind of like like don't really exist out there by montabaur get on it yep give us a good sky like XD litter next up automatic match for the $5 donations thank you very much Matt Matt for your patronage no Kyle I never quite and also horas boards don't have that hoodie I've been after one since PAX East that was mostly a coherent sentence Moton I'm still kind of confused but I'm glad you got a hoodie from PAX East I'm assuming that's what that means yeah absolutely I thank you very much Matt next we got Tom's brems dissed brim it's bream bream Smiths for the 15 Norwegian Corona Corona I love Kronos this time I missed pin my PC because I didn't have pics on my phone on phone finish with with finish build also 980ti is enough for the x34 monitor by the way beer to the bottom which I mean I would imagine means drink it all have to pee yes okay me too um yeah a gtx 980ti would be enough for next 34 monitor fish it I'm I think that's good you could do better you could of course authority idea is sufficient yeah I mean 34 40 by 1440 is a lot less taxing than 4k so I feel like while 980 I was not a 4k ready card like many vendors Adam board partners advertised it to be I feel like it's a sufficient you know ultra wide um thank you at the very low you'll be fine but yes you could do a little bit better with the 1080 or 1080 TI yeah definitely 1080 Luis Herrera $5 how do I explain computer building skills to meet women um find a woman who loves building pcs uh let me know in 35 years when that happens yeah as it will probably take you around that long pic you have to get pretty lucky I don't know yeah I don't I don't I don't know look at the male to female viewership ratio there's a discussion on Twitter going on about this earlier today from everyone from from mkbhd down but yeah like mine's like 2% I have two percent female I'm probably room it's like if you're like we're all four you're lucky to get up to five percent and so mkbhd is at five I think it is at six maybe some wow what a play uh those are the ladies straight up player just a bunch of chicks but yeah tell me about that smartphone it's totally what he does let me see that frisbee golf move this is exactly what what Marquez sounds like no no that's what the women watch mothers women so impersonating the women I'm sorry I didn't I didn't know who come on I mean the impression of obby it was mommy so you know it was obvious I was on point with that impersonations all right Dez Jones five dollars getting tired of waiting for the new EVGA cases and the gtx 1080i hall of fame from Daleks are you as well um GALEX I feel like does not prioritize the u.s. and their launches yeah I feel like a lot of their stuff launches overseas first and then it comes to the u.s. assuming that you are from the US I feel like a lot of the the samples that I've received from Galax I've had to purchase myself from like a Taiwanese or a Chinese website and wait quite a while for it for it to get to me the ones that are available in the US should arrive a bit sooner but that's just the price you pay for super clean looking white GPUs am i right I mean they're the best in the biz if you're looking for a white colored GPU galaxy's is second to none in that sense as far as the EVGA cases I honestly can't help you there I have no idea what's up with those it keeps showing them to us they keep showing up to us and they assure us that they're coming soon but we don't have any more information on exactly when they're dropping so um but best of luck to finding all the things that you love in life thank you des Ryan fuss about $50.00 hold of Jesus thank you thank you very much right now looking to change cases from a Corsair 600 CE to something nicer and you recommend a good ok showcase for showcases and quotations for an x 99 Strix 6900 k2 GTX 10 80s in a custom loop with a 1 with a 360 red and a 240 red based on what is out now we're might be coming soon hard to see cases in person where I am so a good showcase for something like that ok obviously I feel like this the 600 C that you're working with right now is perhaps a bit limited um if you wanted to go boss the wall and do it J style you could go with like a case labs chassis which are extremely expensive but I feel like that's the case that you could have for life regardless of different iterations that you make to your your overall system over the years case labs would be able to support you on that the cases are just incredibly spacious and well thought-out um and also great for doing any sort of modifications as well if you wanted just something a bit more more more common maybe a little bit more cost-effective than that then I would say jeez let's say you've got a 1 a 360 in there and 240 I believe and through evolved ATX could support that don't quote me on that um but that is one of my favorite cases till this day the silver build that I did in there couple months back was absolutely fantastic um I don't know I always think of I always default to fantex cases when I think some water cooling just because they're they're so well thought out as far as like the reservoir and pump support and radiator support obviously there are a lot of good cases out though right now that that have excellent radiator housing um see ya I don't know um check out Corsair Corsair obviously has some good stuff there 780 is a fantastic chassis for something like that the 780 has 360 ready or support but the 780 t of course here 780 TS 360 rad support on the top or the bottom a B or no gravel um I believe the the fractal design defined s has 360 at the top with 240 at the front so you could look into that as well but I'm sure other people and the chat have some suggestions for you there DD a forty x-men a $20 donation thank you very much sir ROG Maximus extreme edition 10 plus an i7 6050 CPU with 40 PCIe lanes is the thousand dollars or asus prime x 299 deluxe plus an i-9 7900 x 44 pci lanes equals $1500 I'm thinking cheaper don't reward Intel for I nine to buckle honestly I think your thousand dollar option seems a bit more price to performance oriented unless you're doing some serious heavy duty workstation stuff I think the 6850 is going to be absolutely fine for your needs ROG Maximus extreme is going to be a fantastic board as well go with go with $1,000 option save save your money for some other important things does Joan like a quick follow-up to the previous question the 780 T supports dual 360 Reds Oh raise the roof all right so I was partially right about that does Jones for the five bucks at that moment when you realize you're still running Zizi 87 chipset and a GTX 780 classy that's never been OCD like it should or water-cooled Oh feels bad mad 780 assign a 780 classified it's not by mom well it already comes factory overclocked yeah but you can always you can push it more okay could get precision X you can overclock your 70 you classified thanks des des because any setting you probably overclock your ship as well Sebastian Cosette laughs or the ours 50/50 ours we Argentinian Argentinians something rattlesnakes starting at starting 1150 build should I go for the i-5 7600 K or the i7 7700 K main use for gaming and Adobe suite I have this aces easy to 7tf Strix motherboard and a gtx 1070 Strix i would go for the hyper threaded chip go with the i7 7700 k because if you are using the Adobe suite it is going to benefit from multi-threaded applications and hyper clothing does come in handy when you're talking about video editing for example which I would imagine you're doing in Adobe Suites overall the i7 77k would be my best bet is it is an Argentinian peso and 50 Argentinian pesos is 3 dollars and 10 cents US well beautiful alright I will accept that donation Caleb Parker for thanks and that was us thanks for breaking up thanks Caleb thanks for bringing up the work week have you thought about selling awesome 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related hobbies non tech related hobbies I don't know but I I try to only drink copious amounts of beers on Tuesday I will point that out yeah for me it's like Tuesday in the weekend and maybe like there's like fries like for instance this has been in my fridge all week I didn't drink it is a my fridge all me too I didn't drink it both of us were very responsible cuz I've just been super smoking crack and stairs all the crack it's hard to crack crack my anti-truth hard to drink the beer when you're high on crack cracks my anti-drug listen Scott alright thank you very much Sebastian can I'm sorry Caleb um humongous again for the five British pounds vapenation if so have you tried nasty juices green apple Oh green a behave also some vape go nicely with beer and enhance the experience yes sir I still a vape occasionally um I've been vaping more recently ever since I got my my unit up and working again but some that I do all the time I look into your your recommendation naturally pretty much always looking for new suggestions there Anthony go forever Anthony I think Anthony also got that same last name like Luke does like Luke Leviathan eager for FFF uh who's our buddy and good pal from tweak town go ahead and check them out uh with five Aussies five also you Dollaz I love you guys going to get a beer to join yeah that's what Anthony sounds like what time is it in Australia it's probably like you know drunk thirty because they're also you bastards I thank you very much Anthony and he's you'll appreciate we love you it's like early afternoon we think of you fondly here one thirty one thirty seven PM one in the waiting two sevens where you are in Australia it's anywhere from 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. sandwich eating the sandwich having lunch or maybe wrestling right that was like oh god what a solid it was start drinking yeah I guess absolutely thank you very much Anthony wasted space for the tendon British pounds rare I catch lie a youtuber streamer and running 5820k 32 gigs 1080i custom water-cooled set up with 840 pros in H 440 the deals balance but will I actually see much from the new core increases core increases Adobe based the new core increases is he talking about sky like X perhaps alright so 20k which is one 86 Couric's core six core 12 thread parts going outside if you were to Mexico something I'd say you're looking pretty good right now and with what you have right now you're totally fun and functional what you're looking at potentially for the future is eight core and above CPUs because those will outperform your six core especially when it comes to like rendering out a video or something like that that said for a 20k streaming up you're not going to get too much better gaming performance out of that other than dropping down to like the the mainstream Intel platform and going really high frequency 77 under K or something like that so I'd say for right now you're totally good I wouldn't worry too much about your configuration give it six months plus for like the Intel stuff that's just launched so sure to play out and settle down a little bit for the thread Ripper stuff to play out and settle down a little bit I'm getting any rash decisions yeah I'd say maybe maybe consider an upgrade like around the holiday time this year but all the sales are going on and if you can get a good deal but honestly even at that point you're probably still going to be good with your six score and your 10 atti it's probably gonna be a while before that needs we're gonna feel slowed down grade yeah but if you're enthused and enthusiasts and he really like computers you know I've never been anyone to say like you don't upgrade like that yeah it would suck like if you're really into it like the good thing is that your 32 gig kit will still be good for upgrading to sky like X yep um ddr4 you don't you really only have to swap out the the board and CPUs that you have that going for you but thank you very much wasted space for the donation we do appreciate it next we've got Mad Mike mourn for the 5 bucks haha finally made it on live cheers to beers I'm drinking you un-lame youngling black and tan lean o Yingling you Ling is uh I think that's from Texas maybe not familiar maybe I have yet you've never had a jingling before I don't think so I think it's from Texas but I could be completely wrong um let's see brews expense jingling jingling his son oldest operating Brewing Company in the United States Pennsylvania established in 1829 one of the largest Brewers by volume in the country based on volume sold in 2016 yeah I remember getting drunk on yiling you jingling at an airport once ha the first and only time I've had it that's interesting because I'm not familiar with though yeah it was it was tasty it was very clean and crisp it's not too heavy it's like sort of a I don't know if I'd call it a pilsner but yeah good beer well we're glad that you're you're drinking that the Black and Tans sounds delicious thank you very much med Mike's but Mike next we've got Faro barn Hearst for the $10 donation great show guys thanks for all the info you are very very welcome totally look the Beast of the dark $10 donation upgrading to a 1080i with the intent to water cool in a full loop should I go with a cheaper card since I'm replacing the cooler anyway or aim for higher end for a chance at better Bend chip slash overclocked I think a 1080i is perfectly fine yeah I'd go with the lower end card the amount you have to spend for the bend chips is just like 200 bucks more and it's really not worth it for the minor improvement you get with clock speed unless you're trying to break a world record yeah I mean if unless you're a hardcore overclocker unless you're going to be going in and editing V bios's to increase the amount of voltage you can provided the GPU just stick with a basic like like a basic founders Edition design you can get for a good a good price because you're overclocking with that will be just the same as on just about any of the Adhan board cards except the very highest end and like I said those aren't as aren't worth the money deep all right so we've got Fred ranch Fred ran from a dollar donation I will donate $100 if Kyle's wife comes up smacks him up the back side of his head for dogging her about dinner well Heather Hey I think she's downstairs and probably can't hear us so that's probably not gonna have us right there a second ago really hey come here why is just Kyle is now actively hey come hit me in the head me in the frigging face it means up there she can either sign so whatever then uh we'll miss out on $7 so hopefully that always still goes for next week thank you there friend thanks Fred uh keep that in mind Xavier meds Gert for the $5 rise in 1704 gigahertz I can only get to 2800 with all four sticks in do you think it would be worth running 16 gigabytes at 3,000 or stick with 32 at 2,800 love you guys I'm assuming you need the 32 if you need the 32 32 32 32 honestly if you didn't yeah even going from 2800 to 3000 megahertz is probably only be like at most 5% of a difference you're probably not going to notice it I would value the capacity overall instead of the actual frequency in the afraid I generally would too but if you're not using if you're not using above 16 gigs if you can test just keep an eye if you're running graphics or if you're running a bit if you're doing video editing or anything like that anything that might use higher memory wait I think I hear my wife hi there test it smack me in the face come here and smack me just smack me in the face just just no contest Heather Heather just to point this out a $100 donation has been offered if Kyle's wife comes up smacks him in the back side of his head for dogging her about dinner all you have to do smack Kyle in the back of the head ow there was alright and now we wait that's all and now we wait okay well hurry up we're almost done also it's it's dinner time that was a legitimate smack we're a little bit late today okay all right that's Fred we're ready so yeah yeah hopefully Xavier that makes sense you bet yeah go with the capacity if you're using it if you're not using the capacity go for the memory you can see sure wasted space ten pound donation and a second one because I owe you some adblock money without demanding an answer to some more arbitrary question love the content and the combo keep being awesome and you totally won scrap your doors fuck scrap sure we agree totally agree with hashtag Rob's in space never forget thank you very much wasted Marc headsman for the five dollars is it worth putting in I 778 20 X into eight and X 19 X 299 motherboard or should I say for the I 970 900 X which xq 9 board should I go with if the X the I nine or the i7 I would say yes d78 20x is probably one of the most desirable CPUs on that platform right now because it's $600 your limited 28 PCI Express Lanes but a lot of people aren't going to use that much unless they really have like if you don't have 4 960 Pro SSDs and a threeway GPU configuration you're probably still going to be ok with 28 PCI Express Lanes there is something to be said some critique of Intel for cutting down then he actually paid $500 Thank You Fred that's painful Fred's the best he's got that smack in this follow through you're a stand-up guy oh yeah 78 20x actually I looked this morning's the 78 20x on new egg was the first one to sell out so I think that's the one that most people are interested in and probably the one that's going to be the most practical because it's four hundred bucks less than one you have to pay for the 70 100 which you have to pay for to get your 44 PCI Express Lanes in 10 cores but 8 cores X 600 bucks is still pretty good for the 78 20x and I'm actually slightly disappointed that I didn't pre-order one myself hmm I didn't like I've got a set of 900 though so so that's ok yeah I think I think we're good yeah wasted space from the 10 British pounds and a second one because I owe you some adblock you anyways you're peeing near to your - oh God okay Obama my chicken a lot of Canadian which one of you is sitting on the crappy staples chair neither of us we're sitting on crappy Target chairs crappy target Cheers flippin Fred $5 drink in my PC would you consider spotlighting some actual pimped-out regs in between just to show what they would be like we have done some like like notable mentions honorable mentions and stuff and ones where you bring them anything like there's nothing we can say about this one but yet wanted to show you guys stay tuned for maybe another week where we'll just do a bunch of like glamorous rigs that are better than ours that could almost be like a different segments yeah like a like a like awesome setups or something like that yeah absolutely cool thank you very much though make fun pants for the $5 hey gang I have an i5 6600 K and a GTX 1060 I want it to game and stream to youtube and twitch should I just upgrade the GPU or do a full new build with Rison so if you're gonna stream I would suggest Reisen because you're gonna get more cores and more threads and and you're not going to be spending an army you're going to be paying an arm a leg for that it's very priced performance I would say risin 5 honestly unless you really have some higher demands so getting maybe like an art r5 1600 I don't I feel like a resin 5 wouldn't be a huge upgrade from a 6600 K really yeah because the 6600 K has better instruct instructions per clock than resin Flavin or gaming yeah resin I've still only has four cores but for the stream in a system and eight threads so you do have more threads make fun pants here's what I would suggest you do you you have a 6600 K that has an eye GPU that has quick sync I would say try to test out some configurations with OBS and or xsplit whatever you're trying for streaming that uses quick sync the capabilities of that 6600 K you might lose a slight little bit of visual quality with the stream that you put out there but it'll have a much less a much more much less of an impact on your actual gaming performance for the graphics card since you have an Nvidia graphics card you also have the Nvidia quick encoder option as well so I play around with both of those just to see if you can get a nice balance between the GPUs the performance that you have and the screaming that you have and the quality that you have because right now you have a pretty good configuration and switching over to rise in or or even like that the the extra 99 or something like that I feel it could be a little bit more of a side grade for you right now versus just trying to figure out the best configuration for what you have and where you're using a better graphics card might help your situation out a little bit more so 1070 or 1080 but of course those are really hard to get reasonable prices for those right now so that makes it a little bit harder but yeah for the very least though if you're gonna be streaming rising this is definitely a good option um a bub gun 45 $5 donation do you think I should continue with my i-5 2500 K at 4.2 gigahertz for the near future or get a new CPU um I don't know I feel like it depends on what games you're playing right now I feel like the 500k if you're if you're overclocking 24.2 is still pretty good you'd probably get I don't know a 10 to 15% game if you were to upgrade to something like the latest like 7700 K for example or 7600 K I guess if we're going the i-5 route um so I also know depends on your GPU as well yeah but an overclocked 2500 k is still perfectly viable right now yeah it is my wife is still gaming on a 2600 K which is overclocked to four point three gigahertz so not much more than that it does have hyper threading but it doesn't really affect the gaming performance that she experiences very much and she's still getting favorable frames and games like h1z1 overwatch occasionally when she place it so I don't know I feel like it just it also depends on how much money you have at your disposal how much disposable income you have um if you upgrade your CPU obviously you're gonna have to upgrade your motherboard as well possibly your memory if you're going to go for a ddr4 platform then you're looking at a serious overhaul upwards to four or five hundred dollars at the very least so um bear that in mind if you upgrade one of those things you're gonna have to upgrade several but I think 2500 K is pretty solid for now Shane $5.00 building a twitch streaming gaming PC I had a 7700 K picked and a GTX 1080p I should i mix the 7-6 77 hundred K and go with an 1800 I believe he means X or one of the X series processors from Intel yes yeah if you're streaming go with a high-end Rison or go with x-series if you're planning on gaming and streaming at the same time you're going to want more cores and beyond the four core options that are available in Intel's mainstream platform right now and rezian has proven to be a very good solution in that situation ends the FPS that you lose a little bit at the top end with that you get with a 77 3 K is made up for by the fact that the rise in CPU can keep up especially if you're doing CPU encoding with streaming and gaming at the same time okay we're gonna speed through the rest of these because we're super short on time red red red bands 2 hours yes I will make the offer again next week and Frederick and view head Ranch drop the hundred bucks just as promised yeah as money for hitting Cal in the back of the head I mean it's amazing what can be done when feedback if mystically abuse me like I would I'm not gonna assume that every time I hit you in the back of the head I'm gonna get a hundred bucks because if I were to assume that I'm a little terrified for your next time shock at the headlock kind of scared for the next time we scream well welcome we're live please sooner just take even with me me me me baby donations live for next week and see how lucrative actually 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