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Awesome Hardware #0110-A: Cryptomining Cards, Flaw found in 6th/7th Gen Intel CPUs, IBM 5nm chip!

2017-06-27
hate that we are streaming to both Twitter and YouTube at the same time so on that note ladies and gentlemen welcome to awesome hardware episode 110 this is side a followed by side B on Paul's channel you can go ahead and watch checked out of that link to his channel in the description going downhill really fast but welcome guys everyone's a video yeah this ad so yes this is a live show that Paul and I do every single Tuesday at 5:30 p.m. Pacific right here on twitch.tv slash awesome hardware or again if you're watching us on YouTube our respective YouTube channels we break it up into two halves here on the youtubes so after we sort of take a break on my half which is what you're watching first then we'll go ahead and kick it over to Paul's channel but yeah we talked about tech news we talked about gaming we look at your PC's that you've sent in and we criticize them and critique them in all sorts of nasty ways so it's fun and we like to have a few beers well read it make some here we use nasty language I don't want you don't like terrible adulty language just finished them out some Cali creamin kind of cream in it there this is from mother earth Brewing Company quite good and yeah it's pretty tasty they're cream soda their eggs would be there in North San Diego County so fairly local here the theme for today's beer is vanilla cream we have a vanilla cream ale and then we're gonna be switching over here to this Dragon's milk du dragon yeah Dragon's milk which I got because I'm excited about Game of Thrones coming but I'm gonna say this is a Denarius Targaryen drink well it's also a bourbon barrel-aged stout rich roasty and creamy with heavy notes of vanilla and just enough familiar warmth from oak barrels I can't imagine the mother of dragons drinking anything yes it looks your bottle opener you may okay here you go all right let's go ahead and talk about all the things we sell in our store last time sell stuff my store is bit with tech slash store you can go ahead and check out any of the shirts or glasses or mugs that I have on sale sorry pew coolers tragic CPU cooler shirt is back in stock as is the BIOS flasher I believe so if you guys were not you know she had a luck last week I'm trying to buy something hopefully it's in stock for you now in whatever size there's tons of sizes there paul's hardware net is where paul sells his merchandise he's also got a plethora of different items they think he's from many things how about the classic pulse hardware logo shirt never gets old absolutely gray legendary great thanks a lot lots of things and anything you buy the money goes to us and we get to keep that money and use it for other things that we can then funnel back into our respective channels or you know we can giveaways money there's lots of lots of things yeah i'm talking about tomorrow your money you're gonna wander if you happen to buy from during the show we will give you a shout out at the end of each of our haves we will do our very best to remember that I do have bottle openers I just didn't have one within arm's reach and if you buy from both of our stores you will have to pay for it separately but you will get a bit of a discount on shipping and this stuff will ship together so bear that in mind too yes indeed alright alright let's go ahead and move on to our first segment of the oh one quick one quick note for those of you just joining us or if you're new to the show feel free to donate to either me or Paul on either of our haves in YouTube chat you can you can use super chat to to make a donation attach a message to that donation and we will be answering your question or just reading your message at the end of each half of the show if that makes sense so rest assured we are reading your your comments there eventually but on that note let's talk about some video games game because it's been a good month for gaming for the most part we had III just a week or two ago and there are a lot of big announcements there now we watched that from a distance in the comfort of my own home indeed so as did I sir as did I and now we have this lame summer sale going on Cheers hello email I'm gonna drink my bedsheets thanks for being here dear we love you drink with us if you're of legal drinking age of course so umm steam summer sale is going down right now and I think this up from the PC gaming subreddit I don't follow him normally but he made the front page on that subreddit this is totalbiscuit to many of you guys know of him the cynical brit who does a lot of gaming videos on youtube he's got 2.2 million subscribers he did a top 20 picks of the summer Steam sale for under 5 bucks so these are all under $5 very affordable almost anyone can afford this and he had a list of 20 games or so I'm not gonna go through all of them but some of which that stood out include Dishonored Fallout New Vegas serious Sam Double Dee XXL which I really like just because of the name and insurgency which is actually a game that I have played personally I'm not too much but enough to get the gist of it and that's a really fun game for I think a buck 50 that game was on sale I think I probably bought some 1015 yeah so that's it that's a killer deal on if you want sort of a quasi milsim with really good gun mechanics and stuff but you guys can go ahead watch the whole video it's almost half an hour long he kind of gives a really good explanation of each game that he picks so you know just to give you sort of a the general idea but I I kind of just pull this up to discuss the summer Steam sale what you guys think of it and really where where you're at when it comes to buying games during the summer sale I've bought nothing so far you've bought nothing yeah babies it's not that's it's because I haven't really looked that closely at it I was waiting for you to bring all this information yeah of course you're thorough research and everything would be ill-advised buying before the service oh yeah so you know what what to buy this is true um I actually to be honest I haven't bought anything either I've been so busy I haven't even looked at what's what's what's all good so I assume I assume you looked at some stuff prior to this report right um no I pretty much just looked at this report oh I haven't even like logged into steam in like weeks sorry we're like the most terrible people to be listening to when it comes to like actually getting it's like hearing about video games and stuff yeah I'm just getting this all through you know through the friggin Internet I mean I'm updating steam right now just so I can log on and take a gander it at some of the sales but you know I'm actually writing this show have reference stories here when they're to the show as we go along yeah I've got some done some preparation yeah no I mean Jake just just a little bit I don't want to admit that I've done that much crap but um steam summer sale is going on until July 5th so you guys have not not much longer to buy a week a little over well a little over a week I mean it started June 22nd so we're about in the middle of it right now maybe it's still in the early early side of things but we are gonna be asking you guys later on in this episode are we supposed to ask that and this question we're gonna do that later later that later yeah oh that was there assuming that that's for the other special segments correctamundo so initially this segment was gonna be a little bit longer but we I shifted some things around I see anyway steam so summer sales going on go ahead and watch that video if you're interested in picking up a few games for under 5 bucks let's move on to the next what do you hear about it why are you watching this video yeah go watch that video exactly um that's usually how these things go this week enemies in killing floor very famous popular world-renowned zombie shooter first person co-op game but has gotten uh it's got a new game mode opposite the zombies the zombies shrink when you shoot them Paul that's terrifying revolutionary Nick is that what's gonna in here so basically this is one of eight weekly outbreaks outbreak challenges that will run until August that developer tripwire and sort of used as a fun way to spice up their their game I've played a little bit of killing floor I enjoyed it actually played it at LAN syndicate two years ago or a year or two ago yeah played with Joker actually you know that was a game like I was I was I was working on other stuff and then like I was trying to get the killing floor I've been running on my computer and I never did yeah yeah I don't know what was going on with it but some internet struck cause the point where is like you know what I'm just gonna have a beer and not play Killing Floor 2 well you know what Paul now's your chance if you ever want to try it out you got to try the new Tiny Terror weekly outbreak challenge I don't know it's not really grabbing me really tiny zombies really you've never had a desire to shoot little tiny mini zombies only on minecraft imagine like me I wish I wish I could shoot the mini zombies in Minecraft ugh I will say that but imagine how much better or skilled you would be they're terrifying in and and in first-person shooters if you had to get headshots on little tiny mini mini NPCs so it makes it more challenging because they're small it is a challenge yes does it smaller hitbox okay smaller targets that makes sense and there and hopefully they you know what I really hope they do is I hope they like increase the picture of all the zombie voices when they get small I have to go this should you know I hope they took the sound engineering into consideration with with this this challenge brain that's pretty good Megan I I work for I work for killing floor or for the for tripwire then there's like a bunch of other ones that are coming out later in like the next few weeks other challenges include exploding Zed's oh alright so that's kind of fun I'm also very hazardous don't don't shoot him point-blank right and then you've also got bobbles heads bubbles heads yeah ba-bling head bobbing heads on those ends that's and I feel like that's like the opposite of the tiny terror here clever where it's easier to get headshots hopefully if they're they're all big-headed like none of them are us the large heads are like had to have more armor or something no no that could be true no yeah or maybe they're just really like egotistic because they have big heads I mean that maybe they just keep agreeing with you because they're big heads is it bubble heads because oh oh yeah right I don't know I don't know Bubba I guess it depends on how you how you smell how you flick it and then there's also some balloons heads so when you shoot them they inflate and then they start potentially flying away ah and you can pop them afterwards that sounds kind of fun that sounds interesting I feel like that's that'd be like easy mode which since I'm pretty bad at that game I I would do that one but nonetheless maybe you can see if killing floor is on sale this number Steam sale or whatever maybe I could do maybe I can see that no just people in general just oh the people out there but you too if you ever interested I mean I didn't know if you're trying to kill me like I should look that up right now no no no obligations okay all right it's our own sorry that's okay so usually we have a pretty good you know like if the suggestion comes out kind of pick up on it and stuff it I don't know for whatever reason you know I'm picking up what I'm putting down to everything anyway I guess that um watch watch this next article PC camera look from PC gamer yeah they're doing stuff dangerous people are doing things Cmdr how's the thyroid ISO kicks I don't know it seemed to our commander maybe this is about Billy dangerous yeah I totally prepared for the show I saw you prepared I saw you do a lot of preparation know what it is this gives I'm like completely sober we're just really what I can't I can't function unless I'm completely trash well that's just that's just how I operate the doors it's weird man the worst games normally we're pretty bad at games report yeah I feel like this is a special thing going here's a video so elite dangerous that if they've kicked off this the saga their thyroid thyroid saga dashboard bobble head or anything which is about aliens and most of the people who are familiar with this have already discovered an alien crash site and totally alien spacecraft now players of the game have found a thyroid machine and have worked out how to activate it so elite dangerous as many of us know is a space exploration simulator Vidya refuses to live and you basically to my knowledge ease roll around in a spacecraft you you mind things you you find new planets you land on a Mike Hawk 19 second 1969 what a guy so people found this like alien type machine or whatever they found like a sort of alien base and they figured out how to activate it I would show you guys the video but it's like three and a half hours long the one I yeah that's what I was trying to cue up right there there but when I tried to jump ahead at all it wasn't loading yeah yeah so I mean I kind of scrub through it as much as I could in the three-and-a-half hour video scrub through and like I've never played elite dangerous so I had no idea what was going on like the whole three hours I I couldn't tell you but I'm sure some of you out there are interested in the game I feel like really dangerous is one of those titles that if I had way more free time I would probably like buy one of those HOTAS systems and he'll be scrapped like an H MD to my face and just zone out like it's super lit maybe like drink about your beer and then just play elite dangerous for like 10 hours straight or you can take advantage if you're your new marijuana license or I can take advantage of the new med car that I got yes that's that's a great idea Paul just get blazed out of your gourd cuz hell was that I probably one of the dogs that was okay everything's fine anyway needles to say le dangerous is there they're doing things there's new things to discover all the time in that game and go play it there's no way I'm gonna have Steve still plays elite dangerous he was someone I knew who played that the most yeah yeah I didn't really know anyone else he was the only one all right and now he's gone he's gone forever no I mean he just moved it's like the other side of LA yeah it's basically the same like it's being gone forever cuz there's no way that's a crazy direct grip Steve rip Steve yes all right let's move on to the next story which is about a new VR game Gorn Gorn this is from the folks who brought you bro for school sleep island they are brawler so if you guys played broforce you know it's pretty violent for being a side-scrolling 2d game but now you have some three-dimensional VR shit going down from the folks who brought you that bloody side scroller this is studio free live I know they have like free labs they also developed genital jousting which sounds like a fun game let their underwear on and I quote they're working on a ludicrously violent VR gladiator simulator which looks super fun yeah I feel like gore and this kind of cartoony style is always appreciated he's comic did you see me just flip them off the the VR chair I just flip them off do you notice that it's very irreverent yeah that's what you would do right if you were in like the Coliseum effort right before you bash your enemies in the face with whatever hit Warhammer you're wielding you flip them off well yeah and you can do that now virtual red the best part about this game is you can actually dismember your your enemies you can like sort of disfigure them and rip off their limbs as you see fit I say that's exciting you're like hey I think this is a turning point for this video mm-hmm actually for for for this segment I would say and hopefully the live show as a whole probably both of our channels I feel like this is where things take a turn for the better of course early access July 10th though yeah oh it's coming up pretty soon yeah so I'm I'm hopefully multi play so I'm working on rebuilding my my home theater PC out there in the living room I'm really looking forward to getting the VR setup back back up and running I had it set up out there with a separate computer because my existing htpc was a powerful enough right but I I can't I kind of miss it being able to just get a straight I'm gonna just like jack in and you know do some VR ready player one is yeah I agree yeah that's that's gonna be exciting but and and there's a lot of games that have come out in like the past few months that or that I haven't had a chance to transom yeah I'm sure playing VR like now like if we were to actually spend a few hours in VR I'm sure we like the games have advanced so much since we initially thought arises from Doss to like Windows Windows 7 Windows 10 at least Windows 10 anything not Windows we may step back a little bit all right but that's that's pretty much it for games report those are all the important stories in gaming news for this week all right no stone unturned else needs to read any other gaming news stories no your nope just one book mark IGN you're all saved for this week 0 out of 10 all right all right let's our next segment is sort of it's a new segment it's a new set wall this old segment that has a new name I supposed to tell them that it's a rehash of some like sorry Paul is if I'm just more honest with my viewers than you that's I just think if you want to get a you coming out and being like hey we're about to serve you leftovers isn't exactly the way to see I don't reserve I don't resort to deceit and trickery that's fine just to get just to get it make the viewers cop a boner I mean you know are you it's they get hard wet or without measure as best we're looking at prevarication here which i technically are using big words buying shirt but I feel done it's prevarication that's why though I'm not even gonna try to repeat that word I'll probably just take slurp see I can't even say the word sliver that's learn it alright sorry for the rest of this livestream I'll do my best to issue I used to know what that means okay anyway ask chat ask chat is the name of today's segment the sounds complicated how's it work alright well let me tell you Paul you know just needs a full-blown explanation actually you and I are gonna ask chat a series of questions you chat will answer those questions a target sick and then Paul and I will go against each other and and guess what you guys answered and whoever guesses the right answer gets bragging rights and whoever whoever loses has to take a drink of their beer they have to drink drink take a very large gulp a single wage gold oh there's punishment of excess see does require explaining maybe maybe there's more to ask chat than meets the eye Paul see which makes were calling it is a new sick values I'm spilling things see I would be paying attention to you but I'm too busy you know helping support your segment by pasting the straw poll link for the first question why thank you very much by the way that we think you say alright did you get YouTube to your should I do that it's a wait we we have to guess who yeah I got both okay cool thanks good good good alright so here's the question this is actually relating to the killing floor article that we just talked about where you know they had a tiny mode I throw this so this is sort of a nostalgic question what's your favorite special game-mode for an FPS game so the examples that I have here I kind of thought back to like the original Goldeneye on n64 how they add all those special game yeah low gravity paintball big heads and visibility we've got explosives only pistols only dildo melee only that was Paul's contribution to the straw poll so you guys go ahead and pick your favorite and if your absolute favorite one isn't on here then pick whichever one you like the best Paul and I are gonna try to guess the audience we're gonna try to guess what you guys might have three birdies and it's probably go through each question and then start guessing each question are we gonna do each one one at a time we're gonna we're gonna do we're gonna go through all three and then we're gonna answer them and then we're gonna reveal the answer oh oh once so the next the next question here you paste in chat this time I'll paste in chat this time this is sort of inspired from the totalbiscuit article about the steam summer sale somebody throwbacks pretty I know I'm it's a nostalgia yeah you did plan and you plan retro mofos you play into the show somehow I did I don't know how that boy uses cookies so um this is about the steam summer sale how many games have you bought so far the answers include none there are no good games on sale I'd rather play in the middle I'm gonna vote for none because we both already said that we vote we've gotten none sure with my butt crack go back go back what I don't want to look at it we can't I can't go back I can't actually look at this can't just go but oh yeah you can we can't look at they can't go back at the back button don't vote anymore you said I already voted I can't vote again anymore let me worry alright stop it alright so guys what you may have seen was just really initial early votes it's not at all something nor should this way your opinion tour everyone please vote from your heart and what what is true so none there are no good games until I'd rather play a fiddle with my butt crack I've seen it done before that doesn't seem possible it's it's possible I don't believe you I'll prove it to you I had a 1 to 2 I'm a reasonable man or woman guys you got it shout out to those ladies y'all yeah 3 5 35 games deals hello deals and 6 to 10 and you'll play and beat every single one of them like we always do given we buy large array of games what's that Corsair shared a funny and funny comic earlier and it was like this dude like second there's no steam named ash I would buy it we'll do it and then like there's a closet behind them it's like all bugging all the old games and I'm like the game takes out of them cause it was like you already own me it was all right I spoiled it but uh yeah what follow Coursera is where you can watch it in da and then the last question here is what percentage of users have a side panel window on their primary desktop hmm I thought this was kind of an interesting interesting question so I'm gonna go ahead and paste that in chat that could be an interesting blessing you a-holes and yeah cuz I mean I don't know sorry I really don't know um all right so first first question Paul what's your favorite special game mode and we have we have some of the options below G the paintball the big heads the invisibility the explosives only the crystals only in the dildo melee oh let's go first on this one all right uh no okay let's let's just you can't do dildo milliohm dildo melees i know what's hacking dildo mail is gonna win let's just point that out right neither of us can choose that we're going for second place here okay favorite I like low gravity actually I think you know it's one of those elements that adds completely changes the strategy of certain maps especially if you're playing if you're playing a first-person shooter adds different areas that you might not have had accessibility to before you know if you're if you're playing a game where you can jump in that kind of thing you can jump much higher you can access previously inaccessible places it's enough of a change to the game that it makes it interesting and again on the same map you've been playing a lot before without completely you know making it bit like it's a completely different thing that you're playing yeah okay that's actually what my first choice was believe it or not well but since you say route they stole it from under my nose I'm gonna go with explosives only because let's face it you suck at video games how the heck are you actually even gonna kill anyone ever unless it's explosives only pick up a grenade launcher or rocket launcher or some proximity mines it doesn't matter they're all gonna blow up somehow and by gosh darn it you can kill people very easily in this mode you don't have to have much skill you've got a kind of aim in the general direction point and shoot and you know area of effect will most likely take out the person unless you're completely blind or you know just I don't know just do you just you suck way more than average sucking people so um explosives only it's fun you get to see your your dismembered enemies just sort of fly off in the air feels good we all love fire alright it's explosives all right I used to play quake 2 and there we had a mod that we use plasma grenades yep it's a very similar to that that kind of thing anyway uh here next results oh yeah are we gonna see yeah let's do the result wait what happens to the loser build me a new pistol holy pistols I'll get all those pistols you little peashooter in there yeah Marty no more insta kills you got that you got it you got a you know bob and weave as you as you pick the enemy off you know and get as many shots as Bob yeah no yeah pistols are still a little still honors the headshot although it's not always an insta-kill depending on the game you're playing of course true alright so dildo manically I win with no gravity yay hey you did have here we're close to there yeah this is old me so this is I could be there we go the last got the least amount paintball mom paintballs last with only three percent of the vote understood alright what was here what did you have to do alright they could drink of this oh I have to take a big sip big drink of beer alright what a horrible put it by the way did you know this is eleven percent alcohol yeah it's stoked it's strong yeah I've had like six percent steps before it doesn't necessarily mean it's high okay that over Golconda but see that's are more likely to be higher in alcohol content by volumen all that good stuff alright next step sweet summer sale we are say already known that we voted for none you gotta do the same thing we did last time nuns gonna win so let's try to let's try to do the backup I went first last time so I'll give you honors we should keep our arguments in shorter to by the way yes I'm gonna say 1 to 2 I'm a reasonable man or woman cuz I feel like most people have a good head on their shoulders and they're not gonna splurge okay I feel like three three to five is still reasonable but one to two it seems it seems more like you know because there are a lot of good deals but not always on the games you want if you kind of have to have both right so you need you need both of those to line up so to speak so I think one to two games I could see myself seeing one to two games on the summer Steam sale that we're like cheap like way cheaper than they usually are and games that I've been wanting to play or have been wanting to own for a long time I'm gonna go with that answer because that's what I would choose personally okay compelling argument I'm gonna go with three to five because I kind of agree if you're in that just a few games range you're probably 50/50 between one to two and three to five also with steam summer sale there's lots of games that are like you know $0.99 or 250 or something like that and if it's a game you've heard good things about you know you're very likely just because sure you know it's just a couple bucks and which is also a very good you know a good thing about the Steam sale I think yeah you know you can you can but fair point a bit all right we were right that none was gonna win and you were right that 1 to 2 was going to be the second place whoo I was only 5 percent behind you though 20 percent of the vote you're glad and there's only 56 11 percent of you guys who were who are just like Steve yes 50 60 buy all the games buy the games and play a couple of them I bought five copies of one game once cheers Cheers so all right and then the the final question which is does your primary desktop have a side panel window now for this question I was thinking that we you and I would pick a percentage like in you know divisible by 10 oh so change to the rule so that way you couldn't be like 70% and I'd be like 71% right so at least it has to has to be at least 10% away from each other you can't do like a prices right type of like cheat okay let me come think I get what you're saying so if you put 70 I can't pick 71 or 69 I can't do that I have to pick either 80 percent or 60 percent okay I'm be honest I'm gonna say 62 percent yes 62 percent of them have side panel windows yeah all right you're gonna be surprised too accurate that is I'm giving myself a plus 2 minus 2 percent I just I'm very confident right now dude are you really I don't know why I even don't know why I'm being facetious we'll find out now I'm nervous now what do I do have we gotta go I take it back and they go plus ten or minus ten 62% no I take it back I'm gonna do 63% no I can't do that I'm gonna do I'm gonna do 75% 75 yeah all right say that yeah cuz I'm that confident that I'm right you better because you just like that's a strategic just waste that you just did no no it's not I mean you saw how Linus gave us like you know infinite time to benchmark then we saw how it and they still won totally all right all right here it is here it is all right oh damn oh wow shut your mouth sorry okay rip I'm so sorry so sorry headphone users that's just the closest I've ever been to anything in my life that was really guessing that was very big moment for me I'm actually kind of surprised let's just hit refresh here I was sure that you would damage there's still so many forest update like real-time Hey alright so that's a that's a good three quarters of you guys who have sight panel windows on the case which is I don't know what I know what it was about 62 it just like stuck out to you so yeah sometimes those numbers just they call your name is trying to use a secret just be a guess I have this I yeah it almost worked it did not work so you have to take another sip sir alright of your beers and terrible way there we'll put a thing you guys very much for participating in ask let me know what you thought in this segments if you enjoyed it maybe you'll do it some more in the future if not I'll just scrap it we'll never have to do it again thank you by the way for all your donations again we'll get to those at the end of this half of the show let's move on to though to our next segment which is PIP my PC this is where you guys tweet me me and Paul your your beloved pcs pictures of your computers and we rate them and we rate the crap out of them race RIT first person Justin Berfield at Justin with a 6600 K every 212 Evo and rx 488 gig that's worth that's like liquid gold right there crypto mine who cares by computers and pull that graphics card out sell it right now for like twice the cost of your actual build I'm just kidding I mean I mean you could but you really could practically speaking you probably still want to use your gaming computer as evil in 73 motherboard 16 gigs of Crucial Ballistix memory a fan text and 2 pro case all right looking looking pretty clean cable management wise I would say yeah no I agree um I think the I don't know why but those like the the fully transparent fans now a little tacky to me okay that's a personal thing there yeah some people love him and I used to think they were cool um we only have a single image here right so I feel like I don't know I feel like I like my fans in my system to match so I would probably make them like get more of those those white fan texts chance would performing fans too it's possible these are like LED fans or something that's common with the clear ones yeah but I I look at clear fans like clear heels right they're just they show you that maybe maybe there's a little bit more porn on this computer than is healthy so I'm saying so clear fans are an indication that your housing a ton of porn that's what I'm saying makes sense that is that is the accusation I'm making right now I didn't know where you're going or but now I get it or you could just look at it like clear heels little tanky that's true right or superhot or a superhot if you're in this trip are you bruh hot alright yeah you can take it to the tiniest bit of cable management for fan cable up here do that when you swap out these clear fans other than that everything everything looks really clean you know not even very dusty yeah yeah almost like he dusted it just for the show draaga holic pronouncing that correctly you've got an i5 4690k tato 750 750 GTX 750 I had imagined to find mini C is gorgeous yes it's it's a very lovely case from fractal design and Gatorade um and and gate there's lots of orange Gatorade on that table let's see okay so cable management it could be improved a little bit I feel like the USB 3.0 cable that's coming off your motherboard could maybe go into the same grommet that your 24 pin ATX cables coming out of yeah instead of routing it to the very bottom of the case swap your sanic cables the red the red is not doing much for me sticks out like a sore thumb yeah I I would agree they even have a light blue SATA cables pretty easy to come back and it would match what's already in here once you okay what's your opinion on the stickers on the i/o up here the intel and the element audio labels here like i would initially want to say yeah heat gun those off but then I look at them and I'm like hey yeah the blue accent actually man actually with everything you know maybe it's okay cuz the thing is like the thing is like if I don't notice it out right then it's not a big deal yeah and the thing is like I didn't even notice those stickers until you man okay okay so yes you're looking for things to point out so don't worry about those so and invest occurs are cool there's also do you even have okay you got some know also amp up the look of your system again just for aesthetics would be maybe to get some similar items that are the blue flavor Gator it's like it it would match with everything get the berry blast Gator berry blast Gatorade that's shit in there and then also maybe upgrade your memory kit to something that's got a little bit more Flair perhaps maybe some like some of those light blue heat spreaders cuz right now I don't think oh oh yeah yeah pretty berry pretty bare-bones for some reason I thought the blue accents on the mother of memory heat spreaders but yeah but yeah I mean just if you wanted to spice up the look of it overall that's something you could do I think the main thing you want is a berry blue Gatorade Beverly iterated and everything will match perfectly and we'll ignore everything else thanks chocoholic thanks drugged and then we've got one Baker Keith with an i-5 7500 ZOTAC GTX 1070 16 gigs of DDR 4 and ASRock b250 pro 4 motherboard man Tex p400 case cry reg age 7 cooler at Corsair whites oh and of course our white LED AF 120 fans providing some LED accents all right we got a wide shot here and that's thumbs are cool yeah this is the only the only shower so I'm cable management here looks I mean so ok the 24 pin and PCIe look perfect I'm coming from your motherboard and graphics card but all the little or the smaller cables yeah they like the one from your CPU cooler I think there's two cables actually coming from there no it's no this is one global oh it goes down here loops back around goes under the 24 pin and comes back in and plugs in yeah so I would rather just help I would rather route that above the cooler and fastest or route it under here than man and you can go straight up here and pass it through some of these grommets up here and then pop it out to plug it in right there yeah how how does this happen how does someone have such a nice clean-looking 20 foot like obviously there's attention paid to cable management here like with these extensions or whatever custom sleeping or whatever is going on it jarring and then this right here what it's like it's like a trained PC building professional started building a system and then his little like 5 year old brother took over and finished the job yes alright so little schizophrenia you like to fix that we need to fix the loose cable coming off of the rear exhaust you can hear this also you should be able to pass up kind of behind that 120 and just just plug it in through there if you have to plug it into an awkward place on the motherboard maybe try to pass it along underneath the CPU cooler that's the way you can do that or just get most of it bunched up underneath and there's just a straight line across here this just looks a little lazy yeah take take advantage of that big CPU cooler tower there like it can hide it can hide a good amount of cabling yeah and then I don't know what you can maybe do with these front cables here as well obviously you had to replace these fans so if there's any other way you can pass them back to the rear I feel like there should be that I feel like in this in the enthu Pro yeah there should be another little cutout maybe right just adjacent to the fans that's good we can't see here but there's probably a little pass-through for fan cables because what you're passing it through right now is sort of like the hard drive wall that you can put modular hard drive trays in there and that's really what that's for it's something really meant to be a cable routing hole so chances are and maybe you did that because you couldn't physically like the wire wasn't long enough the actual cable wasn't long enough to reach one of the the fan header possible too but I mean if you can get if you got the PSU extensions then you know little fan you know three pin or four pin fan extensions those yeah those are super cheap so yeah buy those so you can route the cables where you should exactly thank you very much for that Keith we appreciate lithic lilyc he said thanks to you Paulin J's here's my first built at i-5 with a gtx 750ti 16 gigs of ram pimp my pc alright that is a substantial msi cooler what that custom I did he take that from like a prebuilt like a gun em aside pre-built do they even have a don't know the thing I don't know I've never seen that people in chat what's going on with the CPU cooler is that it does MSI me because looking under here it looks like a aluminum fin not like terribly high ends tower air cooler but why would that have this like fancy MSI cap on it with the LED background and everything the fans the fan alright so it's probably just the angle of it but I feel like definitely you want to swap the fan of the other side right yeah like I'm in there I first off like that I always say do an AV comparison because the temperatures may very well be the same as a personal preference I just like the way that it looks to have the fan on the right side of the heatsink can't they open because I just feel like it when you have it on the left side of the heatsink it just seems a little too close to the it's like what I don't know it's like you already have a rear exhaust fan so why are you gonna put another fan that's just like two inches away from it do you know what I mean yeah look I feel like it makes more sense to put it on the right side just to space them out a little bit more so whatever cables are going across the front of that here that might fix that tuck that away outside all right now obviously you're dealing with the micro ATX motherboard in a full-size ATX case so there's not a whole lot you can do about these cables down here because you don't want to not have your front tire plugged in your USB or audio or anything like that so again not much you can do there besides getting a full sized motherboard you hamed but I'll be damned MSI Slyke for frozer L which is the CPU cooler we're seeing here which is a $50 tower with an LED MSI logo on the top of it yeah I did not know this existed until today how much you're probably paying 20 bucks for that LED MSI logo thinking that stuff yeah I can't do that can I believe that this is I can't see this cooling better than like a class right here yeah a 7-hour hyper 212 Evo or something like that right but I mean who knows maybe it's awesome for some reason all right other than that I mean I don't know what to tell you about this like your cable management is is is a little loose but like there's not a whole lot you can do about it you skew you you have that you have a you have a nice-looking little system I don't think you're gonna have it looking like one of the Suites super-premium top and looking systems without upgrading a few components inside so or the case there you go or the case that could be a thing to the dims dims can be read yeah I feel like it so you know what the side panel on here and some lights look intruments and you got a pretty cool like led LED mouse there that you know that's okay I think that's I think the OE yeah those are blue LEDs right okay I can also see your reflection taking the pictures of Mitch mansion we see you we see you Olympic all right thanks for the thick next up we were Rick record oh hey so this is a micro ATX build which I always get excited when I see micro ATX systems on pin my PC we don't see them nearly enough thanks for overlaying the image with your specs yes very hand it's very visually for the audience that's fantastic indeed so this is like this is like a budget build with a Z on which is also a pretty awesome cuz the e3 1231 what is that a fork or eight thread and pretty sure it's a fork for I'm not a three while you're looking that up he's also got a sapphire nitro r9 390 excellent card I really love that card 32 gigs do you say over there on keyboard with jowls and 1600 megahertz ddr3 crucial b100 256 gig SSD he's got two of those perhaps in raid 0 2 terabyte Seagate Barracuda hard drive 7200 rpm and I can see here how you've sort of managed to just solve the issue of GPU said you've actually used what looks to be like a film canister that looks like a film canister to me yeah some sort of cylindrical black thing I'm fine lens in it totally blends I like it ok he's actually sandwiched his cables just rendering down you cinches cinches it down a bit yeah I like that that's utilitarian right there yeah the Xeon e3 1231 by the way is a fork or eight thread CPU three point four gigahertz base and turbos up to three point eight gigahertz and costs from my understanding significantly less than what you pay for like something like a 6700 K or something like that you know this socket is this 1151 socket I'm not positive either sorry I don't I don't follow these young speed but as well I'm as you know to the mainstream it's 1150 socket so it's it's a it's one generation socket wise behind but other than that it is water-cooled with the push-pull configuration so yeah I bet it stays at a 120 I bet those fans like you can keep those fans of like 400 rpm and then you're probably totally fine the whole driveway looks really nice I mean here's please yeah I mean really really the only thing you can do here to make everything look super pretty is gonna be some sleeves extension cables maybe reseat that lower bracket there for you to point five inch track because it's a little out of whack and ones out of whack it's just sold just figured it's got a squeeze that little plug there and it fixed that uh yeah but really nice clean-looking built even like how the SATA cables are like like blue light blue and match everything else oh yeah it's nice that's the nice little accent good touch all right thanks sir mr. Rick and then finally we've got one more just a quick changeover from our good buddy Jacob yay he sent in his picture of his system right now this is what it's looking like I'm thinking you know this looks great I write an X X 5 I I joked that it was a we had just seen the first leaked images of one nanometer oh yeah they were really shrinking down the amount of power you can get in a superpower period said this is that temperature below freezing on air yes it's so cute I think this is one of the USB flash drives that Nvidia was yeah handing off they made a limited number here's the joke it's very awesome flash drives it was a April Fool's joke that eventually got so much demand that they started handing him out at e3 in limited quantities it's a 64 gig USB 3 flash drive I believe I would still love to get my hands on one of them and do a thorough review I want one me too Jacob give us one send send us them Jacob send us all the all the drives public flash drives and a kingpin GTX tonight yeah that'd be great go ahead and follow Jacob on Twitter everyone at EVGA underscore Jacob F he is the friggin when it comes to EGA Jake it was pretty rare knowledge and stuff he's great guy ah next up news news news about tech news last segment we are it's 626 right now hungry ok am d radeon RX vega allegedly very power hungry grey according to an msi rep who remains anonymous this is according to WCC of tech the msi rep claimed i've seen the specs of radeon RX Vega it needs a damn lot of power that was the exact quote that I'm not paraphrasing that's verbatim the quotes what accent is that that was a like Sean Connery there was a path I've seen my focaccia view where is the veteran from Georgia plague of the 21st century Judge John Connor ear and of course that sounds like ok Oh Yoda Yoda Connery comes from celebrity jeopardy which isn't even really Sean Connery that's true just all right Adam board for Adam port there adding board partners are starting to receive mega samples which means the long awaited launch is imminent it is it's supposed to launch in late too late too late like July words so soon AMD has detailed three Vega 10 based cards each with at least a 300 watt TDP a whopping amount requiring dual 8 pin power connectors this is all rumor and hearsay and stuff perhaps the higher TVP is speculated to be necessary due to maintaining higher clock speeds for longer periods of time this is kind of what we've already seen with the Radeon Vega Frontier Edition which we'll be talking about more on Paul's half of the show this is a workstation Vega GPU but it has a ridiculously high TDP as well for the same reasons we've just discussed trying to maintain that higher clock speed for longer periods of time 100 or 375 Watanabe Air Liquide yeah depending on error liquid-cooled again we'll be discussing that more later on and you compare that people already comparing it to the GTX 1080 I from Nvidia and that's a 250 watt TDP card which has 8 plus 6 pin plugs and can already clock well beyond reference speeds without much sweat without breaking a sweat so um so far it seems Vegas seems to take a small backseat when it comes to power efficiency of course we're gonna have to test these ourselves to really confirm that but at very least if you are planning on picking up a Vega 10 based GPU from from Nvidia from AMD soon then you might wanna you might want to beef up your power supply if you're not rocking at least 750 850 watts I feel like Vega like it's already starting to and even with like skylake X with the higher tvp's like there used to be like no need for anything below 750 watt and then you know like above like like like below I felt like you know systems like back in 2011 2012 they weren't nearly as perfect in GPUs and snow and then like and then like yeah like way back then and then now all of a sudden it's like you know Pascal is like super power efficient it's like you can go get away with like a 450 500 watt power supply and now we're kind of going back to the old way where we've got Scylla kicks that which is incredibly power hungry especially if you're overclocking and now we've got Vega which is pulling over 300 Watts TDP allegedly and we're gonna have to we're probably gonna see more models come out you know in the 750 to 850 watt range so things are things are changing things are changing and they're changing things all right let's move one of the next data everything's so confused you know what at least you're not asleep I'm not asleep because I'm I consider this a win because I'm not jet lagged anymore Cal that's true don't blame me for jet lag this is true and it does to me I just I was very self consciousness when you fell asleep during my half or so I thought I can't telling you I wasn't actually asleep I was pretending to be asleep nobody believes me I was pretending I knew I knew I was falling asleep and as I own to pretend to fall asleep right now you're full of shit moment that's exactly what happened I hate you all right perspective Nvidia partners are launching some mining focused GPUs this is very exciting sort of if you're into currency mining this is a yes from from PC perspective as Paul mentioned now AMD is not the only one here jumping on the cryptocurrency bandwagon as Nvidia as a lot of you've probably heard by now Nvidia and their partners and its partners are launching mining optimized video cards based on GP 106 and GP 104 GPUs GP 106 of course being the GPU featured in the GTX 1060 GP 104 being featured in the gtx 1070 so these are now in production they are on their way to market they will feature cheaper costs overall for the end user hopefully no geforce gtx branding these are not gaming centric cards meaning that they will also have little to no video outputs which is kind of interesting and shorter warranties Nvidia is imposing a three month warranty on several of these cards which is not really very long at all three months not very long at all the P the P 106 100 which is the the code name of the GPU now know like like also P 106 they remove the G meaning that it's not a geforce card alright so based on the code name we're just talking about a non gaming centric card here but these have already been spotted from the folks over at asus EVGA MSI's otech colorful and in o3d they've all been spotted online these P 106 cards but power delivery has or I'm sorry yeah power delivery has been sort of bolstered to keep the cards mining smoothly 24/7 so even though you can overclock them you might not be able to achieve stability as easily because the kind of dumb down the power delivery system just to make them more stable at the reference speed bolstered bolstered bolstered means improved sorry I got that backwards yes you're right bolstered to keep the kind yeah okay so instead of yeah okay instead of dumbing it down they've actually stepped it up sorry my didn't mean to call you out they my bad I'm apparently big on the definitions and using fancy words at everything today yeah but you and your damn words I swear to God but but the basic idea is that most graphics cards I mean most graphics cards especially that their party versions that you get can run 24/7 no problem but they're not necessarily designed specifically for that so what they're saying here is it that by using potentially more power phases or higher in power phases they can set the the graphics cards to be able to run for longer periods of time so the actual power delivery doesn't get us warm and yeah these are these are specific purpose-built cards it also seems like and I'm just speculating but they might be able to use potentially GPUs that didn't make the cut for use in their full-fledged graphics cards if they weren't able to maintain high enough frequencies or if they weren't just according to the they usually take every GPU and run it through a series of tests if it wasn't living up to all those tests they're potentially able to take those GPUs and put them in these graphics cards because again they have lower want a shorter warranties and everything like that which all things considered would be good because if they can make these kinds of graphics cards and cryptocurrency miners can scoop them up then that hopefully means that maybe there's been there they're scooping up less of the graphics cards that are meant for gamers because there's a huge shortage right now because gamers who want to buy graphics cards or a really hard tough position right now yeah you if you want to buy a card for gaming specifically you're either forced to buy you're either forced to overpay like a lot for one like gtx 1070 is right now are going for almost $500 on popular retailers and some for like seven or eight hundred bucks on yeah those are from the third dealers right but Stewart who are terrible terrible people and the fact that they're selling for that amount means that some people are buying them for the which is crazy or or they're just completely out of stock like if you look up rx4 70s or five 60s I think on new Haley a lot of the AMD cards are just completely sold out I feel like the Nvidia cards right now have been seeing more of a price surge but the AMD ones are just flat-out not available because they've already been eaten up by all these crypto miners which is pretty insane so hopefully the this new onslaught of mining specific cards can sort of restore balance and and market availability for gaming centric GPUs I hope so and also lower the prices a bit for the average consumer so they're not paying out the ass just to play some video games but building on top of this article sapphire is actually the first one to market with an AMD based crypto card so we're moving away from Nvidia at this point but this is a five new skis that we're seeing featuring the rx 470 and the rx 560 ranging from and the prices that I'm giving you right now I've converted from great British pounds DVP so this is a $220 us for the RX 560 and three up to up to three hundred and eighty five us for an RX 470 that seems really pricey to me and I'm not sure if that's just how much they're like if there's a sort of premium that you have to pay in in in GBP or if that's really how much it's gonna be when it comes when it comes to the US as well $300 for an RX Forks 470 seems pretty crazy I mean if they're talking about current prices they're probably potentially inflated yeah but who knows for sure yeah only the the RX 560 out of these five SKUs will have a video output in the form of a DVI a DVI port and two of the models that we've talked about two of these models will support Samsung memory chips which are known to clock higher than the is it Elpida oppaya what LP Deverell Piper opener al-qaeda is alternative which is supposed to be slightly better for mining one-year warranty on these cards which is three times as long as a three month and cards and I guess one issue if you're gonna be buying into this whole craze is that it might be difficult to eventually flip or sell these cards back to gamers once you're done with them or once you realize crypto mining isn't working out for you or if like all the rates suddenly drop and they stay dropped and you want to get rid of your cards it's gonna be hard to flip those cards because of their limited IO they don't have HDMI out or the DisplayPort out for example most of them don't even have any video outputs the ones that do have DVI and that's kind of an outdated port at this at this point when it comes to high-end gaming so bear that in mind if you were thinking about flipping these eventually if it doesn't work out for whatever reason it might be a bit more difficult to do so but that's not all we can talk about here there's also been a critical flaw discovered in sixth and seventh generation what are you laughing about trying to keep Hiro from cutting the audio oh for the entire show is he tripping on wires down he was lying down on the power cord for the for the sound board here so I just briefed concerned that he would pull it out and pull the plug out of the socket but everything's okay now okay he's a big dog so there's been a critical flaw discovered in skylake and kb lake hyper-threading and this is kind of not I mean not a huge issue this is from hot hardware and the new flaw has been discovered it affects most of the 6th and 7th gen Intel CPUs that support hyper threading regardless of operating system so doesn't matter if you're on Linux or Windows or whatever you are subject to experiencing this flaw the issue was discovered or disclosed on the Debian Linux user list and was sent out with a warning notification the problem as stated says under complex micro architectural conditions short loops of less than 64 instructions that use HB h CH or D H registers as well as their corresponding wider register may cause unpredictable system behavior this can only happen when both logical processors on the same physical processors are actives along in short of this what you need to know is that these errors can cause anything from system lock ups to data corruption loss there are certain little issues that might cause your system to malfunction if you have hyper-threading enabled on either a cabling why are you why are you smiling not smiling yes you're giving a weird creepy smile just nodding in agreement with it that you're in sight and we just can't wait for me to be over done so that you can do your after the show and that we can eat afterwards that's all you care about that's exactly what I think perfect which is totally justified I don't blame you don't move do you've seen right through me and getting hungry myself um all right so um basically you shouldn't panic though even though these processors are clearly plagued with flaws and and and just tragedy intel has confirmed that the chance of users experiencing anything negative from this issue are very slim because it requires a complex number of concurrent micro architectural conditions to reproduce so only in very rare instances would you be struck with some some issue regarding this flaw um they've also said that they've identified and addressed the issue with a fix that started rolling out in April which was a couple months ago so now it's up to the board partners really to release this fix within like BIOS updates UEFI updates so that users can download it and patch everything up so it's fixed via a micro kit maker could update that would be in this via a BIOS update absolutely okay still the Linux distro dvn recommends disabling hyper-threading as a precaution until you get a solid fix so that's pretty much it no one you guys hopefully no one's been affected by it mmm the last story we can skip we're skipping are just really quick really quick look at this since you already looked at IBM's 5 nanometer chip could quadruple battery life the long and short here is that they've been working with Samsung and Global Foundries to develop a 5 nanometer chip which is going to be 40% of a performance gain gained over existing tanana meter chips at the same power level or up to 75% power savings at the current generations level of performance so if this was built into any sort of battery-powered device you could see some insane this is all theoretical to some insane battery savings battery life savings I should say we we've discussed several battery saving groundbreaking technologies in the past I feel like none of them have really become or taken off or become mainstream so this could just be another pipeline dream but it is always nice to fantasize once in a while about having a smartphone that could last you an entire week off of one charge for example we can dream we can dream Paul we can dream that's all that's all gonna say Matt that story okay there's more to it but we're short on time I have nothing dad and Paul has nothing to add he absolutely hates the show and he hates all of you I don't know I just 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Gambrills for the 6 dollars and 90 cent donation Kyle you're looking snazzy as hell where'd you get that shirt I got this from north well aren't we fence I went to the mall and I bought a shirt is it from Nordstrom Rack I probably do it no I think it's just regular Nordstrom lar wait fancy I know that by the way it happens less frequently than like a lunar eclipse oh well you ever spot me at the mall it's like it's like like you found like the super rarest Pokemon in the most rare hard-to-reach I really I really hate them all me too a serpent s our serpent xsf $5 I am going for a m4 mini ITX bill should I grab a bio starboard or wait from where options and do i pair with an r7 1700 or r5 1600 X or X or not X I would say in our 7 1700 you could well it doesn't really matter I mean the 1700 you're gonna get two more cores and four more threads then you would with the 1600 I feel like the 1600 non X is a better deal because you just overclocked it to hit the same frequency or there abouts so yeah honestly it depends on your budget as well you can save some money by going the six core route with the 1600 which is a fantastic CPU I don't know it's just not knowing anything off the bat I would say 1600 9x that sounds reasonable yeah and when it comes to more options there's a gigabyte board that just launched and more on that I might have for the show mm-hmm okay indirect way true $5 which is better a 180 millimeter rad for 90 millimeter fans or 180 millimeter fans say the one fan does hundred best see yeah these are these are very specific fans but very specific questions about very specific fan configurations which is a very difficult question to answer you stop of our heads it honestly depends there's lots of different hundred and eighty millimeter fans looking at cubic feet per per minute as far as airflow goes this I can't I can't answer this question do they even have they have 180 millimeter rats I didn't even know that no I've seen I've seen 180 millimeter infinite millimeter rats that were built that were like one-off things but I mean they exist they're out there really fascinated yeah sorry sorry and Ray hue that we couldn't answer that better but thank you for the donation on the West Hayden again for the five bucks I posted a moment ago about the 10 60s but do you guys have any idea why no SLI from the 10 60s I feel like that would be a pretty good combo I feel like Nvidia sort of latched on to the trend in recent years that people really only SLI or crossfire higher-end cars because really that's that's that's a that's um if you there's been a huge emphasis on just buying the fastest single GPU because it's more compatible and it's gonna work more consistently the performance is gonna be more consistent from game to game because not all titles are going to support multi GPU and even the ones that do sometimes they don't scale all that well so at like multi-gpu setups in recent years has really been reserved for those trying to push the envelope of performance to the very maximum amount so when you get a gtx 1080i where can you really go from there there's like apart from the titan x low p there's really no other model of graphics card that supersedes that or that surpasses that in terms of performance so you just slot another one in there if you wanted more performance than what a gtx 1060 could offer then the more practical and sensible solution would be to just buy a faster graphics card like a 1070 or 1080i or 1080p i and so forth so I feel like for that reason like Nvidia is just like screw it we're not going to spend more time and in development on a doing support for SLI on this lower powered card and I feel like at first I was like kind of a raised eyebrow now I don't I feel like it makes sense because I've never ever recommended someone go go and buy two mid-range cards and multi-gpu setup because the idea of SLI is much much more common than people actually implementing SLI yes I think what we can come down 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ECC for 27 24/7 use should I go Xeon for ECC more for dollar equals performance ECC and my experience would be important if you're building something like an ass or something where data integrity is extremely important yeah if you're building a plex server you're dealing with media files which you know if you skip a bit here there it's probably not a big deal you know you might have a glitch in a video or something like that I would say the ECC is probably less important in your specific configuration hero just looked my finger and I had no idea what I was my brain freaked out that's what he does I felt something wet and cold on my finger that is I don't know what lost my shit there for a moment yeah Derek to you for the five million whoa no comment thanks for the donation thank you sir take the waffles gameplay $5 bros check mine out if you done I understand what that means cool Robert Harrison $5 I just bought an ex x34 predator and holy shit most of the UT real I followed don't 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the show every week Cheers cheers to us right guys yeah thanks for the donation nucking futs i see what you did there five dollars finally bought a 55 inch 4k HDR Sony smart TV but now that I can see Paul and Kyle's face and glorious 4k I'm ready to downgrade back to tell you well we're only streaming at 1080 60 right now so imagine imagine if we totally get to the native 4k maybe maybe soon maybe soon we are using my new stream system I didn't want to point that out or anything like that because everything's been coming okay so far yeah how do you look at HDR by the way that's cool do I look browner then you thought that HDR I know I mean it's still yeah it might it might yeah anyway Russell Russell Purcell time Dallas $10 sup fellas is a gigabyte six gigs GTX 1060 more valuable on open market now than a 970 founders Edition or which would miners pay more for I have no idea I don't know honestly I'm gonna look it up on eBay tens 1060 vs. 970 see what the rate the average rate is do a little calculation I'll tell you exactly not gets crazy right now it's really impossible to like I don't want to memorize how anything is going right now because it'll be a bomb for the $25 no sir I have an Origin pro sorry for the dogs I have an Origin Kronos 6700 K 32 gigs of RAM GTX 1080 family dition shit when should I upgrade not for a while couple years no please yeah differently for you good 66 Racer for them nother another $10 here's another one because you guys rock off you route 66 Thank You Dez Jones $5 why is there such delay for the EVGA dark motherboard it's the only thing that would even that I'd even remotely consider that would even remotely consider x2 99 I don't know but bear in mind that all the xc-99 stuff was pulled in as far as launched like two months early so a lot of the stuff that was shown is still pretty early and give it another month or two and you probably start seeing everything actually available for sale yep Aaron Barlow $10 cheers guys Cheers Thank You Aaron very much Aaron Castro $5 hey guys I'm trying to find our GB RAM for my MSI X 370 gaming Pro carbon and none are listed on the QBL what's QBL qualified vendor list is any recommendation on our GB RAM looking for three gigahertz plus uh if you're on an X 370 your us to get risin g.skill is really good and just go for surd vengeance LP X is also validated Corsair and MSI have been working together for coordinating the yeah everything so baby the Corsair stuff yeah Michie skill for sure I've had good results with them - Grim Reaper 1085 dollars do you think there will be any decent July 4th sales for GPUs considering the mining craze well going to get a GTX 1080 cuz I sold my r9 fury for monies now people are already paying out the ass they're not gonna do sales that's not gonna happen nope sorry sorry Larry Kent man in nine one three five six $10 sorry if you covered this already but what was the benchmark Cinebench that PC world ran in there video that showed FPS metrics around 126 Vega Fe vs. 106 technically we're talking about that on my half of the show in just a few moments yep absolutely so that is gonna conclude all the donations for today thank you guys so much or at least on this half of the show and then we've also got a couple Johnson shoutouts that we got to rattle off really quickly here let's see maybe read a bit of it to be good to be shoot the boot but about actually I can look him up on my phone that's probably better for me I have you read off yours first for you go you go at 4 Johnson's first 2 Timothy B from California got a thumbscrew shirt thank you so much Timothy next up oh wow that's a difficult name to pronounce from also from California avid just abacus is what I'm going to say I got a the two glass set of English pub glasses like we're drinking from sinking today boys also Pearson from Illinois got a thumb screw navy blue shirt and an 11 ounce mug thank you so much for your order and your support Craig from Denver Colorado 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Mick for a big of an evolution and stay positive Church thank you very much sir just a couple more here we've got or eat or it's or or eat either way thank you for picking over an evolution shirt and there we go did you merge it you do Robert Robert Oh Robert I think this might be the Robert that I know and if it is what's up Robert evolution shirt as well a lot of evolution ships being picked up and then one from Craig which I believe is a double Johnson's Vanessa thank you very much Craig we love you your craziness for bigger than 80 words in a circle beautiful glass that is going to conclude it from my half of the show laying out we are super long overdue for part two of this show so don't go anywhere go ahead and head over to don't go anywhere but go ahead and head over to pulse channel which is youtube.com slash Paul's Hardware 4-part side B of this show if you're on twitch.tv just stay where you are we're going to do a continuation will be are being well BRB like
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