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2017-08-08
sometimes you're like yeah hey yes stupid sometimes I overthink my tweets I'll sit there I'm taking a shit or something yeah it'll just be like there for like ten minutes like wait how do I want to word this what does it say about me as a person well tweet sir forever you know they can be easily misinterpreted I know yeah there's so much pressure people misconstrue them and then suddenly you know you're mixing you know you're a police puppy killer yeah and people think you kill puppies I'm like dude I just I just said I'm gonna kill all them bitches didn't necessarily mean I was talking about humans though female let's talk about one female women just one big ugly puppy come on it'd be horrible guilty whores starting after your side of the show on the right foot that's what this episode is all about damn straight life oh we're live do you really I have no idea hey everybody welcome to the live show this is awesome hardware the live show the pole and I do every single Tuesday right here at 5:30 p.m. Pacific Time on Tuesdays I already said that welcome to the show this is episode 115 whether you've been watching us from episode 1 or you're just tuning in for your first time live we welcome you and we say we love you and we're gonna have some fun together we already actually streamed Paul's half of the show we like to split the show up into two halves so if you missed that too scandalous you can follow the link in my video description if you're watching me on youtube it'll take you to Paul's jail or you can go to youtube.com slash Paul's Hardware to watch site a it'll set up the introduction and the sort of tone for the rest of the episode may you can come back here or you can just watch this to have the show and be like I don't even care what happened in the first half cuz whatever and my psychiatrist has been telling me to be more present and I'm looking looking ahead I'm here I'm here in the now here in the now in the present time I don't know we're not here to tell 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they're there in classic black there's also hats it depends how long that trend just clings to life as long as as long as fidgets spinners are in is are in the limelight and our hashtag trending they'll be there but would hats are also for sale you're going to a baseball game bring one of those wear one of those hats to the game while you fidget spin on a bit with spinner and people will never ask you anything about baseball no girl will ever bother you yes you will never be approached by any any intimidating women nice time Meister all stored relatively speaking is much less appealing because I don't have as much new stuff pulse are bred met those where you can check my store out I just want to point out the zero insertion force shirt because it's still clever still clever after all these years and it's more relevant in turns more on the map for Rison now if you're a rise in fan rise and zero insertion force shirt is for you like obviously these are zips sockets and that is horizon it like if you're if you're using an LGA processor whether you're talking thread ripper or intel stuff that is not as if socket it is not a zero insertion for a socket it's a fraud you're gonna be a good lied to you never be a good shirt it's you had a GPU that's like like think of a GPU that's been Tory I had an oil wine idea for a new shirt like a GPU that's notorious for coil wine and saying like don't you hate wine and then have a zip socket CPU replying and saying I actually prefer Zinfandels or as if and else you have the one for free yeah I'm afraid I'm just new sure that's just for you new t-shirt coming soon cuz we're friends you haven't given me future design coming I have an idea for one I have an idea for one I've had my ideas better sword fight I'm not I'm not telling you my idea I'm not telling you mine okay cuz way better anyway alright thank you get my idea fleshed out first thank you Jeff for always supporting me okay let's talk about some tech Jess as usual we've got an 8700 case spotted in the wild this is a core i7 Coffee Lake hexa core allegedly this comes from video cards calm so greener salt as always they found a spec sheet from a Chinese website pretty typical first off let's talk about the core i3 8350 K that was mentioned it's a quad core according to the spec sheet with a base base clock of 4 gigahertz and it is unlocked so and once again we're seeing this trend of Intel starting to implement unlocked core i3 which you know beforehand before the last generation of Intel Core CPUs that was not really a thing so much so here it whoa is it the 70-75 30k no 73-53 50k so very similar sort of the same vein there quad core unlocked very cool remains to be seen how the how it all stacks up against the competition but there were also some first leaked images of the core i7 8700 cake from Baidu I don't is that's website right I do it's a social social social network social network okay in China okay Chinese social again from China some leaked images of a core i7 8700 right now is but I do the as a search engine that's a web services company it's Chinese yeah it's China so some leaked images came from China to different CPUs were shown the image that you're seeing there shows three CPUs but you'll notice that the one on the very right is different excuse me then the other two a search engine for websites and fifty-seven searching Community Services okay there like it so probably something at Google akin to like a Google and Google there are Chinese Google cool um so like that's where this information is coming from you can see a picture of three different CPUs actually or two different CPUs that the two on the left are the same according to the picture and the one on the right is slightly different based on just like the sort of layout of the dye elements and stuff I'd have to look at that more closely yeah um and these images also came along with some cpu-z benchmarks showing a single thread performance of 23 23 or 23 hundred and twenty-three and a multi-threaded performance score of thirteen thousand nine hundred and eighty which according to the article is better than a 70 700k by about four thousand four hundred and forty three points which if they're comparing if that goes for the multi-threaded performance that's basically putting these scores 46 percent higher than kb lake which seems way too extreme so it seemed exactly where it should be if it's comparing a six core - no no this is the 80 no that's the any 700k that's carry a 6-quart or four core that's exactly where it should be I guess maybe you're right I get yeah I guess if you factor in the 50% more performance yeah okay you're right - this call - a few four centage points for overhead or whatever you want to call it ray so that's that's reassuring I mean it'll be interesting to see how hexa-core coffee likes stack up against risin 5 because that would probably be the competitor their core wise right because risin 5 6 cores 12 threads and again it really depends on pricing to whatever Intel decides to price these chips at will determine which rise in CPUs it's going up against but I would imagine risin 5 and yeah that's pretty much all we have to go on for now that or if if the IPC is still if they still have an IPC lead over Aizen with these chips which they should theoretically if it's just a new revision some somewhat of a 14 nanometer process that is roughly the same as what kb lake is yeah built on and they can get away with bigger quarters Intel might still try to do something like oh well our eight cores go up again there are six cores go because they write for sure and and so on and so forth yeah you could see them doing and you know might work for them if the performance is where it should be I mean that's what ultimately that's what most what happens most of the time is the cpu price ends up being where the cpu performance lands they're usually pretty good at doing that I think it's why people are pissed at Intel right now is because the pricing for this guy okay Skellig exto outrage is not lining up with the performance but right skylake X CPUs well I can't speak to the 7900 X's right now but I know the 6950 okay was that a nexus in the the the Broadwell II mm-hmm apparently sold really well the 69 the 7 the $1700 10 core 69 50 X apparently sold really well so for all the people who are like 1,700 bucks for the 10 core and like so much more expensive and whatever lots of people bought it Wow hi yeah like I'm surprised too I would just think like wow that's a niche product no one's gonna buy that yeah yeah according to a couple different articles I read recently sales for that from Intel well sales outpaced expectations is is how it was it was listed so that doesn't necessarily mean they sold tons of them or anything like that but it was a successful product so for everyone who's talking shit unlike the sky like X processors that are priced between a thousand and two thousand dollars if their performance is there I mean granted hopefully if thread Ripper is is providing the proper you know Titian then there should be some sense that goes into the content a question of what you invest your money in but you know there's like if if it lines up with that then I would expect people to like 2,000 bucks versus 1,700 bucks yeah and it's an 18 core instead of a 10 core if people are buying the $1700 one faster than the Intel is expecting then people are gonna buy the $2,000 one two I'd be interested to see who like what what kind of audience was buying the 6950 acts like if they were all like you know small business like workstation type stuff or if they were like gamers or like like where's ya never kind of blend it's hard to say because it's yeah it's not like the Xeon product where they have you know a certain level of you know stability I guess that goes into it or I wouldn't be surprised if it was like something in the in the financial markets area because I know that's another big sort of area of DIY PC stuff that doesn't get talked about quite as much as as people do financial market stuff you want really really fast computers but yeah I'm not positive I'm not sure well you know AMD this year I feel like has been having a lot of fun at the least of their press conferences throwing up these benchmarks especially in the Cinebench multi-threaded tests showing how their CPUs are hands-down decimating the Intel equivalents you know for the same price but you know the the rise in SKUs have way more cores and so there I feel like that's what they've been pushing the most in their press conferences like look you can get way more cores and way more threads from the same amount of money and coffee like is like the first time really that we've seen hexa-core CPUs in the mainstream so that might all fall to shit for AMD where whereas before like yeah okay Intel had the upper hand when it came to single threaded performance and higher IPC's maybe now with coffee like at least against the current offerings of Rison we might see intel edging out the competition in both single threaded and multi-threaded performance it'll be interesting to see if that actually happens and what kind of effect that has on on the market but again this is all speculation for now most of it until further notice so let's move on to our next story that we have a lot more to talk about knew there was some some speculation that another unannounced thread ripper chip was going to come to market relatively soon and it's called the 1920 those of you who have been following all the news with thread Ripper know that right now we've got three confirmed SKUs from AMD when it comes to thread Ripper we've got the 1,900 X we have the 1920 X and the 1950 X and this article from an antic van come is saying that you know there might be a fourth skew on the rise in the thread Ripper group all of the 1920 non x skew this is basically the they're deriving this from the fact that there are a lot of motherboard makers who have this skew listed in their cpu supported lists for various motherboards these motherboards include very mainstream boards like the asus rog zenith extreme the asrock x3 nine professional gaming and x3 Taichi Giga Byte X 399 gaming 7 these were all published this week confirming that according to these motherboard manufacturers that there will be a 1920 non x skew coming soon again this is no official words name makes you wonder if there will be also 1999 15 on decks right yeah but it would be interesting why they wouldn't show support for a 1950 if if that were the case but but I think it makes more sense that a 1920 would exist as opposed to a 1950 non X because if you look at the price points you've got the 1950 X at a thousand bucks and then the 1920 X at just 200 bucks cheaper and then you have the 1900 X which is like way cheaper like 550 so it would make more sense for AMD to put a stop gap between their 500 part 500 other part and their $800 part right I feel like that sort of closes the gap between those two they're pretty far apart compared to where the 16 core and 12 core parts are but interestingly enough according to the article it's speculating that the the 19 20 will also have 12 cores and 24 threads as it as it will support SMT which is the same as the 1920 X so imagine maybe a six hundred and fifty dollar CPU that has the same core and thread count as the 1920 X but with lower clock speed according to the article and half the EXIF are so instead of getting that nice boost f2 4.2 gigahertz they would only go to 4.1 but again you could potentially like overclock that and make it all the same the other difference is that the 1920 specularly will have a lower TDP of a hundred and forty watts compared to the higher-end risin SKUs that have 180 watts so maybe you wouldn't get quite the the amount of overclocking capability with the 1920 as opposed to a 1920 X kind of similar how we've seen it on the 1600 versus 1600 X or the 1,700 1,700 X that sort of thing but again usually I feel like the non excuse at least with Rison are the ones that a lot of tech tubers including myself and possibly even you have been recommending when it comes to bang for the buck so perhaps the 1920 X or I'm sorry the non X the 1920 might be a good option if you're if you're looking for price to performance yeah if it's 150 or 200 bucks cheaper then than that and if it's still unlocked they're all supposed to be unlocked right everything's supposed to be unlocked for overclocking so it should just work so yeah yeah so and certainly something that people would be interested in because you know the 1900 well it is 1900 X what is an appealing CPU to like get people onto the thread Ripper platform and get you into X 399 and everything it's still like an 8 core so I feel like there's a certain level of like wow 1900 X is cool and all but it's an 8 core just like the mainstream rice and stuff come on you gotta have 12 cores or something like that right you gotta upgrade at some point so yeah yeah I mean definitely like you said there's a big gap so that that's for sure a product that would fit right in there right and and and some people are asking chat how many PCIe lanes that wasn't confirmed in the article but excuse me everything and Deborah there has 64 lanes every thread Ripper AMD was very adamant and very proud about that at their tech day there's gonna be aiming that day we go even the 8 core yeah even the a core so if a cheaper $550 SKU has 64 the full 64 PCIe lanes then granted you know a seven hundred six to seven hundred dollar chip is going to have the same I mean we can pretty much assume that obviously anything's possible but you know I'm pretty sure we're allowed to say that right yeah yeah yeah we said that we saw that last week yeah sort of weird in between sign where thread Ripper has okay what can we say in what can we not say it seems like every day there's a new embargo that lifts because it's not personal the embargoes is like 30 I mean granted the whole entire review embargo lifted lifting of like lots of people who aren't named Linus are allowed to actually post Red River Gorge benchmarks like that's cool but there's some there's some cool information about thread Ripper that we're not allowed to say yet that I'd like you guys will be interested in so gotta save something for coming soon gay but yeah we'll keep an eye on that a report as we see fit so let's move on to our next story though which is about Asus who is on track to release the world's first 4k 144 Hertz HDR display by the end of 2017 this is very exciting this is about the rog swift PG to 7uq g-sync HDR panel it's got HDR 10 compatibility with support for the PCIe not PCIe PCI p3 color space and the peak brightness of a thousand Rd slash and squared whatever this color space like what the fuck I don't even know how to say that do you know thousand thousand rewrite Ness is usually MIT's I know that's all I know I don't know if now's an RD / M thousand radiations per square meter thousand radiations of brightness per square meter that's clearly what it is my goodness but yeah so this is pretty crazy guys atomic measurement I feel like we've been waiting for hyper 60 Hertz 4k for a while and and we've had the means to do it I mean this is all going to be done on this panel with a display port one point for cable and connection but we we've had yet to see any hardware from from display manufacturers until now so I believe the was it the X 27 from Acer the really big fucking huge deal monitor that came out or that was announced recently at Acer special event that everyone like ranted and raved about this is basically the same sort of specs this is going to be the the one-to-one rival of that panel but apparently the Rises I'm sorry the rest the Acer panel is going to be delayed till next year 2018 whereas the this Asus model will be available to us this year in 2017 which is exciting so with that what that means is that the panels themselves the actual display comes from the same fabs because you'll often see this from manufacturers like Asus doesn't manufacture panels Acer disease to have a feb they might I'm not positive about them but I don't think so the the panels come from the same locations and then the manufacturers Acer or Asus take the panel build the housing around it builds hardware that goes in there possibly built like UI and all that kind of stuff and they put that on but the base specs of the panel and what the panel is capable of which is going to be like the resolution 4k the refresh rate 144 Hertz the color depth HDR and whatever HDR specs it matches up with those are the same so yeah it's the same reason why you can often find a lot of like third-party Korean panels for a lot cheaper that use the same sort of Samsung displays or whatever that are used by well-known brands just for a fraction of the cost so it's the same sort of thing the color space is going to be 25% wider than srgb which is pretty awesome uses a quantum dot enhancement film or q def QD EF to Korea to create deep saturated reds and greens out of blue light and that's going to display uh it's gonna be able to give you more realistic images you know darker darker scenes will look a bit more rich and full things things of that nature um and yeah it's gonna be a pretty badass monitor so stay tuned for that there's not much else information on it as far as pricing and exact release date we don't know so but we've been it's a technology that we've been waiting for for a long time the limiting factor now for a panel like that is gonna be graphical horsepower right you're gonna buy this display for maybe a thousand bucks or more at least a thousand bucks plus but you're going to need the system to drive it so you're probably gonna need at least two gtx 1080p eyes or above in order to even even even play with that 4k 144 FPS sort of range so it'll be interesting we need more graphics we need more graphics cards yeah we need a competitor for the 1080i so that Nvidia launches whatever they have sitting in their back pocket for whenever than 1080i gets beaten yep rune for you AMD let's move on to our next segment now which is oh joy this is generally segments that way that's that's displayed on Paul's hack I have the lower thirds ready for it ready to go beautiful you are on top of things as always sir so oh joy we get to talk about some articles that unlike the the title of the segments usually all bad news yes all bad has no solutions right no no no light at the end of the tunnel yep yep so very very fun hopefully none of you are suffering from depression otherwise you should probably turn the way now yeah let's talk about the first story though on that note X 399 is reportedly not going to support something that you may want and that something is bootable nvme rate there's been a lot of emphasis on this with X 299 V Intel high-end desktop platform for the X series yeah a lot of x-29 boards have two or even three nvme and got two slots on them that support nvme that you can raid and boot from that was a huge thing we talked about a copy text Zenith there is a vertical m dot too rich either not know about did you realize that your 960 Pro was tucked away under I did not did you did you read the packing west near the pub I read the packing list I was on the verge of emailing AMD me like hey I didn't get denied no you just send me like twenty-five hundred dollars worth of product but there's not this SSD in there that was were you really about to I know I'm sitter dead at least I considered it but no I got it sweet I got it sweet about it must I'm guessing that sweet was either from someone else who got a reviewers kit or from someone who saw someone else who got the reviewers care it's like it's it's it's installed on the motherboard and as I go then I looked it was there I so yeah I had no idea I had you I installed the whole thing is the question this is the question for the reviewers out there and it's it's a question that goes to the heart of your of whether you're completely objective or not did you reformat reformat the drive yeah I didn't use the drive you didn't use the drive no oh you just pull it but what did you guys anything I used the same ad that SP 900 SSD that I used for all of my rise and testing oh okay so you're I completely threw it out same all right ompletely just started the drive broke it in half third in the trashcan I snapped it like a stick of gum so that so the reviewers kits that had that drive installed on it and n60 Pro nvme SSD is samsung 960 Pro very very very nice SSDs oh yeah like top of the line pretty much the fast license nvm nvm iam and that's an SSD that's it that's out there at worst of the birch came pre-installed with a with a Windows 10 operating system on it yeah which I mean AMD did this they set it up so that it was already installed with Windows 10 and that it was already set to use the rise in the right reset power balance yeah the rise and balance profile on our plan or whatever right which is that way of trying to make sure that people use that because that is helpful to use I don't know why I just but I was like now I'm very formatting I don't know I don't know another tricky I don't know whether order the tricky stuff is on the strands that's true I'm reformatting you yeah and I just used to have just been a new dream ever just been using the high-performance power plan anyway yeah okay um but anyway um some of you might be upset that these needs this who really needs any food is this the deal breaker and if so who is this a deal breaker for because like to people personally I don't care I would never use nvme SSD especially for a bootable Drive I've always kind of implements the idea that my boot drive should be a single drive and not rated yeah because it's the most important drive on my entire system and I'd rather not have the the the added risk of raid zero yeah that's just me though some people might be like look bro I've been booting off of raid zero arrays for centuries and it's never had a problem and that's cool if that's your experience you've never had an issue then go for it and that's who this is gonna be a deal breaker for us this is just one of those things that Intel could possibly leverage you know to amp up their own platform against the MDS because overall AMD's kind of winning they've got more PCIe lanes they got more cores for the same amount of money and this is the one thing that's like okay Intel could probably stick it to them in some way look we got bootable nvme but here it is getting warmer I think they might have shut the AC off it's okay about 20 minutes ago so I will make this quick but um yeah clog any closing closing words closing closing thoughts I agree it is something that is a bit of a more of a niche issue and although oh joy is not supposed to have any any silver lining or potential you know solutions or anything it is something that might be added in the future right so we don't know when but it might initially welcomed and and grant and when you look at the Intel side of this you know they have if you're MDOT to nvme slots and your motherboard or write it to the PCH then you have support for up to three nvme devices in a raid configuration which is what most religious mostly most people would want as far as home users go beyond that they have the vrock the virtual raid on CPU which might cost more money isn't available yet requires an extra add-on dongle thing that you plug into the motherboard and is only supporting Intel nvme SSDs yes so the support like the 1960s lavro look side to this isn't necessarily a much better solution on the Intel side reins and at that so important I think to have a view of that hire landscape because comparisons of that will probably affect either company's decisions for how to implement it in order to make it something that's appealing to people rather than just something that people like I'll never use that yeah yeah all right so what's next I think that we've got an article from ARS technica about a company who the tracks ISPs recently found that almost 200 of these ISPs are imposing data limits in the US and these are monthly caps that are being noted not all of them are enforced but customers of many ISPs have to pay overage fees if they ever go past that data cap so this is just kind of it's like just some interesting facts here they'll regurgitate to you guys right now I'm ballistic caps range from 3 gigabytes to 3 terabytes per month Comcast for one has been steadily implementing data caps across its territory and many other providers have sort of followed suit you know also just implementing their own sort of data caps for larger ISPs a typical plan has a 1 terabyte monthly allotment and charges a $10 fee for each extra 50 gigabytes that's been used over that one terabyte allotment buying unlimited data is sometimes an option Comcast for example charges 50 bucks I think for if you if you go over and you want to add a little bit past your cap larger providers with data caps that made the list include AT&T Comcast Cox CenturyLink Mediacom Suddenlink eggs heed some of these I've never heard of HughesNet the later two are the latter two are satellite ISPs okay exceed exceed exceed exceed okay a comment from broadband now the company that compiled all this data what do they had to say for them say I said statements from internet providers suggest the data caps are a necessary step to combat network congestion opponents of data caps believe that the motivation for data caps has more to do with recovering declining cable or creating a roadblock for streaming services like Netflix so okay so if that's the reason why these data caps are being enforced because because ISPs are losing money on their cable subscriptions for example like you know wifey sauce and I have totally averted away from cable and just opted for a peer Internet entertainment experience we can get all of our content through the internet um so cable cutters huh so that that might be a reason why you know our ISP which is Time Warner might implement a data cap is because they're losing they're losing customers too for cable like me and wifey sauce and they're trying to make up for them they're trying to you know try and try to balance it out by implementing data caps and charging us more if we ever go past our caps so we need the FCC to to preserve and protect the yep engrained FCC means you need to take their dicks out and just cock slap all the ISPs around you know and be like look bitch yeah the kinaho Hazel's internet the broadband cable model I think the FCC really needs to protect and preserve protecting to make sure that you need to pay for a set of 200 channels of which you will watch three or four as long as a armpit achieve whatever the hell his name is what's with the ads eaten pie as eat pie the other thing I was gonna say next yes as long as he's not in church lord but he is in church I know I know and it's the shitty thing he still needs to be reconfirmed for 2018 hasn't happened yet but that's like the other thing that's not let's say that it's saying here is you know it's either these data caps either have to do with making up for the declining cable revenue these ISPs are experiencing or it's for creating a road block for streaming services like Netflix so in a way I mean implementing data caps for a streaming service or any website in general I feel like that's kind of anti net neutrality like by definition it's almost like imposing certain data caps well if data caps are imposed for specific websites then that is an tight net neutrality and that's technically not legal right now right because that hasn't been approved yet thank God now data caps are illegal data caps are it's just it depends on how your contract is laid out and that kind of thing but isn't it like the data cap is legal for all web sites it's like universal right it's like your data cap yeah it applies to any website you go to not just like apply you have a data cap for Netflix and you have a data cap for like that's not kosher right now that's not cool no it's not so you know if what they're saying here is true then that's that's kind of shady if they're just data capping you for certain services like streaming websites and then the quote goes on to say whichever side you believe the outcome is the same data caps are becoming more commonplace so the problem was that there's a lot of internet service providers who offered certain like they would offer deals to people with a certain level of promised available bandwidth mm-hmm which for a long period of time was totally fine because you could offer a bunch of you could offer all your customers this much bandwidth because realistically speaking you know when you go back ten years Netflix wasn't a thing people aren't using up all their bandwidth and it's very rare for them to use even even a small portion of that they're using it in small bursts but we're browsing in that kind of thing yeah it wasn't install video streaming became more prevalent yep that suddenly the ISPs are forced to be like oh this amount of bandwidth that we sold this person that we're promising this being is at least authority I'm out they're paying they're actually using now yeah like holy crap right we're experiencing congestion and sometimes when in the evenings and whatever oh no all of the money that the government gave us back in 1996 that we said we were going to use to improve infrastructure and we decided not to do that just cuz it's much more valuable for us to limit the amount of bandwidth that people have so we can say there's not enough bandwidth we have to charge you more for it oh yeah like that's all it but anyway um it's all bullshit so it is it really is and we'll leave it at that he is to make your own conclusions let's move on to our next story though for oh joy which of course is going to be another wretched awful article this time about Game of Thrones and the whole the whole series the whole thing being hacked Game of Thrones HP get hack packed be attacked be hugged they got hacked with body odor no not really but a lot of the stars of Game of Thrones have had their details leaked online or threatened to have their details leaked online as HBO hackers post a ransom note so yeah there have been a couple hackings recently with HBO and Game of Thrones for example one hacker released episode 4 which is the one that just passed I believe in full it was up at least a week before it ever aired on HBO pretty much Sunday mellow episode super mellow don't even like that much you and I'm not worth watching at all and then that was sort of that sort of overshadowed this other hacker group who who stole a script of a future Game of Thrones episode and the group is now back with not only the script but some internal emails of a top executive which does contain personal contact information of the Game of Thrones cast who we talking about here hoo hoo and Game of Thrones would you love to have their information leaks if anyone at all no none of them Kyle I respect people's privacy and I wouldn't share that type of information that is a bullshit you're lying to your fans you're lying to your fans you're lying to me and I don't appreciate it Paul we we are drinking the reason why we drink on this show is so we don't have to cover up bullshit lies it's as hot like worth so some kind of serious bubbles to the surface but okay here's here's whose details weren't really at the very least Peter Dinklage which I that's who I would vote for first off because I would call him immediately and just want to have a chat with him Lena Headey which is a Searcy fantabulous actress shame shame shame shame very shameful actress she should all she didn't have all the tomatoes through her face saying shame on the people who shared the stuff anyway maybe a client Amelia clarity which is a Denarius Targaryen don't want that at all I hope she's got a new phone already I I would hope so otherwise I will be after her digits so this appears to be the hackers or the people who have this information have some sort of ransom or some sort of ongoing thing that they're trying to a stork from HBO right so the reason why none of this stuff was initially suddenly available but it sort of started to the creep out is they're trying to get they're trying to make money off of this stuff that they settle they're trying to make money and I mean it's all for ransom right there's a ransom note that they've included which I'll read some some quotes from that soon enough but it doesn't really say how much they're demanding that was not listed what the dollar amount is I would imagine it's a lot but but but here it's kind of interesting this is what the ransom note says this is what the hackers wrote to the execs at HBO they said it's a game for us money isn't our main purpose okay so they're calling them there they're cleaning themselves to be white hats which is a term that I'm not familiar with very much white hats oh and then in the hacking world this hats white hat me like white night oh my white hat is supposed to be a good hacker I see someone who hacks like a Robin Hood hacker yeah someone who ha ha ha ha finds an exploit or something like that and then instead of sharing it with the entire dark web they go to that company and say hey I found this vulnerability on your website here it is right and then sometimes the company will pay them or whatever but that's white hat that's supposed to be good there's gray hat which means a little of both and there's then this black hat which is hackers who are hacking for personal gain or that kind of thing I I still feel like ladies HBO is not gonna be like oh they claim to be white hats it's all gravy like this is still I feel like white hacking white hat usually doesn't involve like give us money like I just yeah yeah yeah like that's we're like we're dangling us information on on a straight gray hat gray hat would be fair like a gray hat at the very least right nothing about what they're doing here seems white hat related and they're saying the hackers have claimed HBO HBO is their 17th target and only three have refused to pay in the past I quote leakage will be your worst nightmare the note threatens so make a wise decision this is verbatim what the note says so make a wise decision they have threatened to dump more videos of future shows with their with their logo HBO is falling the video ultimatum ends with an image of Game of Thrones night King the white Walker assume with his arms raised with the word standing in one hand and falling in the other so it's kind of like there it's like a threat it's like poignant how how do you want to approach this HBO we just hacked you to call your information and we even sent you a cool fun mean picture of the white walk of a king white Walker saying choose your fate do you want to pay us and be cool or do you want to not pay us and get Burt great am I reading that right it seems like what they're doing but yeah they're totally white padding it we don't want to endanger HBO's in situation nor cause it to lose its reputation we want to be your partner in a tiny part of HBO's huge income we want to be your partner in reelin and all the dough that like you owe us money because we were able to hack database and infrastructure so I mean ed sucks you know HP I mean HBO and the cast of Game of Thrones everyone involved is seeing tremendous success from the show that's that's unquestionable but you know life has a way of fucking you up and dicking you over according to these crazy articles they've got some that's some shit to handle so best of luck to the Game of Thrones cast I hope that we don't see any you know Peter Dinklage nudes on right at anytime soon not what I'm into Emilia Clarke I mean you know shit happens I mean you know whatever if that happens it is what is this slightest hopefully not no it's totally this delicious no no one's nude should be leaked let the record show Peter Dinklage is such an awesome name Yeah right it's like penis penis e penis ding clear means penis penis ding and Dinklage sounds like the dangle enos of a penis yeah yeah the Dinklage that penis had quite a bit of Dinklage how is your Peter Dinklage doing today oh my English is minimal today 60% exactly but oh is it 100% Peter all right it's like if you if you're gonna make a stage name make it two names you both mean penis and some to some extent and you'll get hired by all the big yes yes chaos is a ladder all right all right let's move on to fit my BC doozy pin my penis I mean been on PC good lord this first one comes from Chris Chris for the 37 seven minutes 37 37 7 3770k 4.7 gigahertz we've got what else a gtx 770 at 1306 at 250 gig Evo sin Samsung you know I guess for OS 16 gigs of g.skill memory at 1600 speed and the Sound Blaster titanium HD SIM card so we're looking at meteor 3 memory we're looking at several noctua fans I wonder if they're Chinese or Taiwan also seems to be a combination of that two of these are the industrial ones right it's black those look like some - special edition ones we also have water-cooled CPU levels GPU both with all-in-one units yeah Hugh I like the addition of the extra heat sinks here for the memory on the back of the 770 overall I don't know I feel like this isn't the greatest camera that the pictures are being taken with right that that takes away from it I think cables and fans are the things that don't match the rest of yelled as well as they could fans definitely stand out I mean as not to offend do you have to take it with the like balance of like alright well then act to a fans I mean even if it was like the black red and brown of the nock to us I'd be cool with that the swap all swapped the beige not to of fans with more of these industrial fans and that would blend in a bit more yeah okay potentially that's reasonable or even the other way just you know get rid of the industrial ones and use more of the brown ones that I mean that could work too yeah I will say we're also dealing with a pretty decent amount of video card sag here especially since you have the sound card down here to compare it to which actually needs to be moving doesn't the sound cards appear to have negative sag it's it's weird if it's like an optical illusion because of the GPU side I'm working really is going up I'm seeing negative sag here oh because look at how the other molex cable I think the molex cables pulling it up a bit straightening those that would balance things out of it and then of course we have the ketchup and mustard cables on the CPU issue and the power supply issue here and that yellow sticker on your rear i/o that clearly no no that yellow sticker if you go all the way and you swap out the neck to a fans and you really try to make things look look pretty than definitely remove those stickers too yeah yeah so obviously you got a very nice system here if you're looking at aesthetics there's some stuff you can do hopefully our suggestions have helped NEETs move on to tell a lot of dumb uh he can't find his motherboard he's got 600 okay 16 gigs of ram and 850 Evo and a 1070 founders Edition a very nice little compact system here is what looks to be the Nano s from freckle design which is a micro ATX chassis and you've managed to fit a massive nock to a cooler in there which props to you Sarah for doing so damn um I think overall this is a really clean looking system I think probably just because the components look so big inside of the chassis but you almost don't even see any cables yeah which is apparently a good thing if you want to clean things up or just make it look a little bit more unique I guess you could maybe spray-paint the fans I mean you would only have to spray paint the outside of the fans I don't think the blades are very visible from any old angle not if you spray paint the fans either black or maybe even the same shade of green as the GeForce GTX branding on the founders edition there that would look pretty good oh yeah be fun to be different um I kind of like that sticker on the power supply it's one good thing that I've mentioned about the the new RM series from course there's the the stickers look pretty nice they're very neutral yeah very neutral kind of sporty looking so I don't mind those at all I mean Franklin does a good job of having a nice black and white theme out of the box with their cases you've already got the white blades on those GP fans I believe the GPS so maybe if you Wanda maybe if you want to spray paint those Noctua fans the same sort of scheme as the fractal fans that'd be kind of cool yeah right I mean black on the outside of the frame and then white on the blades that will look pretty sweet actually and you'd still get the same performance of Noctua and only other thing I would suggest I mean if you really wanted to go all that would be a sleeve to kit of cables more your power supply which he has lots of independent cable sleepers who do that for that you just have to tell them what kind of brand of power supply you have indeed that would look nice granted you're only gonna see the small bits of it and when you actually install it the parts at the bottom at the power supply and then maybe a little bit of the 24 pin and you're right oh so worth it yeah it's but overall a very clean build and it looks pretty cool with the complete lack of motherboard indeed that's visible next up we've got Gabriel with an i3 6100 a nice use h1 10m our motherboard and gigabyte rx 470 and a one terabyte hard drive with a 120 gigabyte SSD a very nice little budget build I do say so myself and cable management looks super clean I mean with what you have to work with with with a budget case like this and a ketchup and mustard budget power supply this is one of the cleanest cable management jobs I have seen on Pitt my PC with a system of this price range I will say that you've done outstanding job here and still it somehow manages to look budget because they are ketchup and mustard so um I don't know how much more room you have back there I really don't doesn't look like much but if you could find a way to get some black sleeve cables on there it would clean up the look quite a bit or maybe just swap out the power supply for something that comes natively with black cables so you don't have this sort of ketchup and mustard you know red and yellow scheme going on of course there are bigger fish to fry here I mean you've got a pretty modest system with an RX 470 in the i3 you could stand to upgrade those components as well and you know I guess if you have the money upgrade the whole system upgrade the platform if you were looking to get into maybe you know quad HD gaming or something like that maybe ultra wide not not to say that the system's better anything it's going to be a 1080p champ regardless but I don't know it's super clean I don't know what do you think Paul yeah I mean I agree with Kyle you're gonna want to upgrade the core component components before you invest too much and everything else yeah your case is just fine your power supply could use an upgrade at some point in the future but it's getting the job done as well and again I'd rather update these core components hang on in that case though and your cable management skills are very nice I think they would be better appreciated if you had a case that had better sleeping you know just even all-black cables or something like that but a nice clean build overall and hang on to that case because it's got a nice feel a lot of space in there yeah that's yeah I'm to work with definitely consider Rison I would say because right now with the 6100 I think that's a dual-core and if you're trying to you know step it up to maybe some more triple-a gaming if higher settings than a quad-core I think would be a good move I think in 2017 that's not a lot to ask to get a quad-core for a decent price you can even go with like a you know horizon 3 processor or even rise in five if you can muster muster the price point there yeah 6100 is a dual-core with hyper-threading yeah so I mean you've got four threads that's that's good but still I know a lot of games lot of triple-a titles that will suffer even from having a dual-core hyper-threaded CPU in there so depending on your needs but overall I mean this this what five to $700 system looks more well maintained and clean than many $1500 rigs that we've seen on my PC so good job on you for that thanks very much Gabriel let's move on to our next guy molten fire Walton fire on via with a little suspect but we've got some picture here she tells the story I mean looks like a lot of cabling going around looks like you've got a fractal is that a frankly as a fractal case might be a core 1,000 or some 1,100 1,100 yeah 1,300 whatever I don't know I don't know what the fucking names are but uh okay cables are everywhere but it's hard to make the cables look super nice when you have that power supply with ketchup and mustard and also very limited back space behind the motherboard tray so I'm not gonna fault you for that it looks like so used to be a core 2300 his oh yeah oh the 2300 okay that think cool Chuck doesn't it look like the top fans are intake yeah so that's okay as long as you have a dust filter otherwise it might get pretty dusty in your case you might want to consider swapping those two exhaust just so that you don't have as much dust buildup inside your chassis unless you're totally cool with cleaning it like once a month or once every other month then that's totally fine but generally you don't get a dust filter at the top of your case because it's designed generally for exhaust that's by design so you might want to flip those yeah I mean it it actually it looks like all of your fans in this case are said to exhaust I don't know about intake Oh intake sorry yeah right to intake so I don't care how this radiator is set up but definitely the top right and the front saw to brighter air intake yeah so I'm not exactly sure I mean if temps are good doing well for you then then I'm all for it but you know you don't want too much dust buildup at least you got a dust filter I'm sure at the front with that case but I'm not sure about the top unless you've added one yourself everything else looks you know cable management could be tidied up a bit here and there well you don't have much potential with us in this case if I was you practically speaking leave these two front to it and take flip the top two to exhaust and make this rear and intake as well that'll give you fresh air going over your CPU liquid cooler exhaust at the top but yeah it should be pushing it and then beyond that your cable management is not that great it could use some tidying up and you're just you've just got a fractal power supply that's not that great as far as the cable cables are usually and you don't have room for incisions so swapping that Paris flight could be an option but honestly kind of like one of the other builds we looked at earlier in this one you might be more interested in upgrading your core components before you do something like that but yeah I agree with everything you said could at least use a rewiring job I feel like indeed that would help a lot give some zip ties I think you very much molten fire next one more lastly we've got Nick Nova the core i5 6600 K GTX 970 for the wind from EVGA 16 gigs of DDR 4 Corsair and AZ 170 I mother board from Asus with an H 100 i cooling down that I 5 looks like we were in a zoo we evolved it's the pro gaming z170 i motherboard z170 I'm with oh yeah alright so right Nick the first thing you're gonna want to do here because you have a white case you have a graphics card with a blue accent you're gonna want to look at my video which is very specifically on this motherboard and how to make it look good which is to remove that pro gaming logo from it and I also painted the heatsinks on the top as well to remove the red accents I feel like that would do a lot in this build actually spray paint it white just because the red is only on the motherboard there granada' you've got the corsair logo as well here I'm not sure if you can change that around at all yeah when and then maybe something with this cabling here and the lower-left that might yeah look while the spray paint modifications that you'd want to do are very simple yeah granted they would require you to uninstall the motherboard completely so as long as you're willing to put in some extra work in a few hours of labor I feel like the the end results would be devastatingly more awesome so also I'm not exactly sure why you decided to keep the the fantex cover over your graphics card I feel like that could easily be removed I don't think it really affects performance much but it at least shows off your card a bit more unless you're just trying to hide the the PCIe cables and that make sense cabling seems pretty fair for what you're given here in this little case I feel like obviously an extension kit maybe with some White's leaving would look really really nice especially if you did the basic modifications that Paul suggested and I was showing my video right now Paul will demonstrate with his own it's not playing back very well for some reason of his own experiences I had the heat gun off the pro-gaming logo on this thing and then I did some spray-painting on stuff it was just a sticker that was on there or was it a bad it's like a badge with a metal piece on the back but actually when you take it off the piece its underneath doesn't look bad at all um which was cool and now chrome is completely locked up hold on nice good job chrome I really need to upgrade that system with like a 7 whoa more RAM yeah you should what the I don't know what just happened wait there's a little weird but anyway that could probably help this system out I would say other than that the cam management isn't terrible um you could just use a facelift and we essentially might look nice here yeah and you've got plenty of room underneath that power supply shroud you've got a basement there so you could probably work with it and you've already got the white accents I really like the Corsair fans that you've added with the white rings I think that's a nice touch yeah white extensions would just complement that all the more and make it just kind of give it a more premium feel so but yeah that's pretty much it for a pin my pcs thank you very much everyone who submitted their rigs if you didn't happen to get called or chosen for this week there's always an opportunity for next time so bear that in mind and that's pretty much gonna do it from I have the show apart from some questions some donations that you guys put out a donation let's read those Rock nerve and so we had one that came in at the end of my half but we didn't catch it so sorry about that from Adam Moore who donated $5 and you said I just ordered my friend some parts for a 1063 gig and rise in three twelve hundred build what are your thoughts on this combination let's pretty salt I think that's an excellent combination yeah I think 1066 gig is a nice bump up from the 1063 gig if you can find it but the prices for those tend to get outrageous pretty quickly so 1063 gig is perfectly good and happy pairing with that CPU yeah for sure I just did a rise in three 1200 build with a 1050 ti4 gig and like did a bunch of 1080 gaming with it and it was it performed really well like it's a really good job so yeah I think it's a good combo yep I think that's actually the the graphics card that I like the highest end graphics card that I recommended pairing with horizon 3 CPU was the GTX 1060 because as soon as you get into the ballpark of the gtx 1070 or beyond you start to running into some serious bottlenecking with rising 3 it's a big jump to go from 10 60 up to 10 say today's so yeah so you did a good job with your friend there good job Adam next up we've got Paul you have a donation quirt Byron I have dollar donation from court are you going to use the baby oil I sent you on stream or is that for behind closed doors I haven't checked my P o box in it no we had a baby oil already with our faces on and everything oh yeah it was since we have it it we're still two bottles it just in my might in my window no Silver's it's very visible so if anyone like all my neighbors who walk by like walk by our house every day they look up to my window and they just see two bottles of baby oil with our faces on it so you would be very canal but it's not here it's Beckett comes back in my house I'll have to bring it here I always thought it'd be fun like like sell suggestion to do like a thumb wrestling match with with maybe you go oh yeah maybe have like I'm not a slippery hire like a professional mc2 to nari the whole thing and you get Terry Crews I bet he'd be good for that yeah Terry Crews would totally do that sweet yep thank you very much shakes burn does Joe know I bucks what's up guys we meet again lol which thread ripper will you all be benching first the 1920 X or the 1958 which X 3 I am motherboard so far is your current favorite so first on the only x99 board I've used the zenith extreme from Asus Singh it's super nice and I also 550 freaking dollars is it really that much yeah oh thanks for any they start it through mail started the cheapest asrock is 330 or 340 or something like that wow they're really expensive yeah and then then like yeah this like sex you 9334 the cheapest asrock 384 the next cheapest msi and then everything else is between 3 380 and 500 bucks for what's available at lunch it's pretty it's pretty and it looks like X 299 starts at 250 ish to it you can get extra 99 there's already two hundred different motherboards available for X 299 200 different one hundred according to an article I read earlier there's already a shit ton of motherboards for XNA night Lord so yeah there's gonna be $250 X 399 motherboards just that right now it looks like that for right now X to $2.99 on intel side is around starting it around 250 um whereas like Paul said 350 for X 399 which is pretty insane so again that asus motherboard the zenith extreme is freakin awesome yes I really really like the board really expensive yeah I'm Steve I can say I've benchmarked the 1950 X I'll be giving a video on that at launch YouTube I'm also going to be doing a follow-up video that's more more focused on the night 20 X I will not be doing a follow-up video the week of lunch because I am a slacker oh I'm trying I'm trying to get a 1920 X video pretty pretty quick as well be more badass but we'll see how things go later tonight and tomorrow and the day after it's a lot of stuff still to do monkey dog 24 the ten dollars many bucks but a 7700 K about a month ago worth trying to hit five gigahertz or just settle at 4.8 with less effort I'm using the Kraken X 62 AIO bro you can hit a 5 gigahertz overclock stabili as long as you don't have a complete junk CPU all of the silicon water I don't know you should be able to hit 5 gigahertz with the next 16 tens on your processor eveson just have another k that is that is like I thought point 9 I thought was good at 4.9 I was like man it can't hit 5 that's okay I'm good at 4.9 tried it again in the summer when temperatures were 5 or 10 degrees hotter it's completely instability just not completely not completely failed still worked just enough weight and instability to where I was like alright 4.8 4.8 for me like when I'm overclocking it's all about trying to be like alright what can I get it up to all right it was a little finicky there what can I get it to work so no it's never gonna have a problem and 4.8 is probably where you want to be with the 77 ok for that yeah unless your deal inning or something like that I mean you could easily hit 5 you it really just depends on the CPU you get yeah when it comes to 1 to 300 megahertz of what you're trying to achieve it is just based on what CPU you get so just play around with it and good luck El Jefe reviews $5 cows look with pin my PC potato Edition oh yeah bro that's I should do that soon I completely forgot about that thank you for reminding me a potato Edition would be great the the problem with doing like a special edition of hit my PC is that like prompts a lot of trolls to go out and seek specific pictures of rigs that pertain to that category whether said if I do there's no Edition subreddits where there's just a treasure trove of yeah like shitty battlestations and so right that yeah so that are all gonna be used I like to make it more relatable and like something like a you know just so that everyone can continue you have to Google Image Search everything that's sent to you to make I know posted I know all that shit baby child put the harm congratulation on the new studio man looks a grade would you be down to have a small fan zone like Rekha if I sent a picture of my peepee would you put it up on the spray in a corner for all of YouTube to see what the fuck that I just read holy shit I know that's to send you a pic dick pic this is a quarter my fix am i that kind of YouTube channel that just seems kosher with putting up a picture of some random fancy don't answer my question TV as much as I appreciate all of your donations and all of your contributions to the channel for both me and Paul over the last few months and years I love you so much I don't think I'm gonna put a picture of your dick on my wall just just sames putting that out there no I mean we're friends and all I wouldn't even put a picture of Paul's dick how about that like the guy that I stream with that I've known for like years and years he's practically my brother from another mother I would look if you came to me tomorrow Paul we're like gal I just got these head shots like head shots of my dick would you want to throw them up on your wall like the background of awesome heart I'd be like fuck you dude fuck I mean I'll put them in my bedroom yeah but not you haven't seen the pictures hit can't you're right you know you're right cold judgments you're right maybe you'll just be like that is a glorious do you that is a glory you have these in a larger size the most can you see blown up you can't read it it's it's larger than it needs to be ready just say good is there any room for everything knowing detail would be well thank you theity for the thought at the very least in the donation Michael Brooks for the 20 bucks building my first PC in 15 years rising 1600 GT X 1080 16 gigs 3200 speed picks coming soon monitor shopping asus mg279q or PG 2 7 a cute I want 140 feet 144 P and IPS what I've been missing it a lot by not going g-sync Kyle here's money this time thank you very much Michael first off I appreciate it I think the bill that you're going with is pretty solid arisin 1600 with a gtx 1080 I think that's pretty fair yeah um as far as monitors go you want 1440p and IPS I don't go off the off the top of my head what the difference is between the two asus models you have listed here would you be missing a lot by not going to gsync yes you would if you're buying a GTX 1080 you should you should consider investing in and work out the variable refreshing monitor it's really really really worth it it's amazing it's so um I don't know what the price difference is between these good people oh really what wow what is this so the asus mg279q and the Aces PG - 7 AQ both 27-inch both ok alright little they're different resolutions 27-inch 1440 or 27-inch 2160 or 4k the 1440 is 144 hurts and is $540 goat the 2k but does not include Jesus oh jeez oh no no no get it 2 kg Singh yeah - kg sink nicer sweet spicy $930 that's too much presuming this you don't need relatively accurate this was 14 months ago this might not be accurate 4k will be wasted on you I guess yeah go for a 1440 G sink panel in the five to $700 range you should be able to find that I believe and that would be yeah what I would recommend Acer has some pretty competitive options there as does Asus I'm sure Scott Dilbeck six dollars and sixty cents what are we going to get a tour video of the new place and did you guys enjoy sushi last week hell yeah weeks ago it's two months ago and yes we enjoyed it very much good um studio tour is coming soon it's been delayed a little bit because I'm currently waiting on here here's the thing when I was at my grandparents place operating out of there I felt like I had a surplus of hardware I had way more keyboards way more monitors way more everything than I needed and now that I'm in this space that's literally triple maybe quadruple times the amount of space I feel like I've experiencing a deficit of hardware for the very first time of stuff I don't have enough monitors all of a sudden I don't have enough keyboards and so before I give you guys the full-blown studio tour I kind of want to make it presentable and in such a way where you guys sort of get an idea of what its gonna look like in the end so I'm currently working with a lot of vendors like Asus Corsair fully which is a company that does like the up-and-down electric tables oh I'm working with a lot of them right now to sort of populate this space so that it looks a bit more presentable for when I finally do that studio tour it should be pretty epic when it finally size around you can easily take advantage of your the fact that you have new space in general right now and do like a like first look studio tour yeah like I barely got moved in and here's what we're working with true and then a month later here's what I've done with the studio now with all this new awesome stuff in it this is a good point so can I tell you so perhaps you can spend like an hour and walk around here with a camera and pointed it stuff and people we will be very interested I know I know which say you should do that no you're right you're right and I am strongly considering that because the more I am in contact with these various vendors the the more I'm realizing like oh it's gonna take them like time way longer to send me those products than I thought so perhaps you might get you guys might get a sneak peek earlier than you might be expecting way that's a li p21 does Ellis so Oh cow quick question what is your opinion on the EVGA DG eighty seven I want to do a case womp blending on that one love your videos keep it up I never actually built in that one but I will say Dimitri unfortunately in one of his videos talking about the cases of 2016 was like EVGA why does your case look like a rear projection television and that's all I can see now I do remember that I do not saw him to say with the DG's that's all we got Tilly building it ourselves we have no other comment Edward Creek ten dollars my wife says I look like Paul I take that as a compliment well there is a better photo on my Twitter post under this week's pin my PC thank you both for the great content keep it up why thank you Edward I hope you continue to look like Paul yeah in many years so I continue to decompose just in sixty three five dollars I have the choice between an asus rog Strix be 350 and asus primed x 370 pro which would you choose to pair with an r5 1600 i'd go with the cheaper Strix be 350 motherboard um which i would assume is cheaper that depends yeah if you're talking about paying for either one and a 30 40 $50 difference then you have the B 350 but even if it was going for multi-gpu like an r5 1600 is not really going to keep up with that unless your planned upgrades assume right if if the price difference is an issue completely agree with Kyle goes to be 350 if someone's saying like here choose between these two motherboards then get the x3 7 oh yeah if you if you get it for free it's more capable but you can do more things of course when does that happen but yes your us but like Cal said you know you might not take advantage of all those things so it's might not be worth paying extra money yeah but there you go that but money wasn't listed here as part I know I'm just saying I understand unless you're putting two GPUs in there me PC thirty bucks thank you following since episode 35 inch Wow finally catching a live show here's something for the two of you to split keep it up thank you very much Judy you have any money that's awesome fuck thanks Judy that's awesome that you've been watching for that long yeah it's great it's also crazy that we're doing it's a hundred and fifteen episodes right now that's weeks crazy so many weeks that's almost 100 weeks steelbook zero seven for the 500 PHP not PCP I love your vids Kyle your white belt and December PC inspired me to build my new rig awesome question will a nine Santa Mesa well a GTX oh there you go well a GTX 970 bottleneck arise in 1600 no by the way in case you're wondering that's 500 Philippine Peso about 10 USD well I thank you very much sir I just feel about that um no I don't think your your your GTX 970 will bottleneck a risin 5 1600 very much they're very capable CPUs these are not the same sort of you know FM 2 socket CPUs and shits that we've seen from AMD in the past I think you're pretty good with a 970 yeah you should be fine you should be totally fine what are cool fool for the 10 bucks which board would you choose for thread record I was looking at Asus going to get the 16 core CPU if you're going for the 16 core you're willing to spend a bit more go for the zenith x3 and zenith extreme it's a beautiful or this $550 $500 I'm expecting there to be more boards in the 250 to $350 range and it maybe come out around or after lon that's true might be a little bit more reasonable because honestly you're getting a lot of cool stuff with that board but you're not getting a lot of extra performance you're true it's not necessarily gonna overclock it really a heck of a lot better or anything like that at that point look at the individual features that each board manufacturer offers because some of them might be total fluff and useless to you others you might really see a value in and just base it on your own needs just have RGB LEDs on the analog else for the sound though which is kind of fun which I posted an Instagram I did an Instagram post on that when after and posted without knowing us and a couple comments for like dude I'll just post and I'll look at yours and I was like clearly I need to follow Paul's Instagram comparing more closely you should I had no idea it was very funny and I looks like almost the exact same picture and stuff it's funny because I had actually taken that picture a day or two before yeah and then I remembered I say oh yeah yeah sitting there running benchmark since I posted it yeah but uh cool yeah grace Black Raven 0 1 3 5 mm Ellison I currently have an i7 6850 at 4.6 gigahertz is there any reason to upgrade to X 299 or X 399 for gaining new I dunno soo if I 1650 dude you're you're smooth sailing man especially if you're not gonna get any higher frequency than you already at with either of those platforms yep and gaming is more about the frequency right then it is about anything else and you've already got six scores with 6850 so good to make any sort of noticeable difference you're gonna have to upgrade your GPU long before your cpu sublime $10 heyo finally catching a livestream awesome question are you guys open to helping fans part out Bill's got an idea for a multi-function beast and would love help so I can learn honestly dude it's one of those things where so many people ask us all the time like 24/7 you wouldn't even believe like how often we get asked like hey can you check in my parts list hey this is look good to you where it's like I physically cannot look that's a full-time job or at least a part-time job that I have to hire someone to check on all that stuff without missing out or sacrificing all the other work that I'm doing behind the scenes because it's a lot like there are a lot of people asking us to review their parts lists that we just don't have time as much as I would love to like every time I see it it's it's like one of those like bittersweet like oh my god love to like check it out and actually give you some like meaningful feedback but at the same time there are just so many requests that I have to I guess I both of us we have to sort of prioritize you know I mean there's a thread Ripper launch on way but we have to like 10 - we can't ya be giving you guys advice on every single parts list that you guys throw our way I do I do a video at the beginning of every month where I part out systems and I say here's parts lists and people ask me questions and I do straw poll and people can give me feedback on what they want me to do granted that might not be exactly the parts list that you're looking for but but it's night ring I try to make them reasonable and and and very four months two months so might be good starting off points relevant to possible math you see keratin 5 domination no moments so make it Matthew Luke $5 Paula you should electrocute that piece of wood for your media PC electrocute it I don't want it to start a fire we're in California we never were that that's really dense woman I'm worried that I'm gonna wear out my tools working on Jack Nelson five Australian I would assume I think so I hope to use the evolved shift for my next build but I'm concerned about thermals Kyle what's your experience with temps near new htpc I have yet to hook it up to an actual monitor and and and and check the temps on it but there will very likely be a follow-up video to the HTPC refresh that all that stuff will be covered including like what it's like to actually put a gtx 1080i inside of the ship decks or actually it's the shift which is he which is saying even more because it's slightly more constrained and perhaps a tad more thermally limited but more of that later Matthews he trained again for the five dollars just bought risin five or I'm sorry rise in 1950 X so thread Ripper wait how did he do that with a GPS Oh pre-ordered okay GT X 1080 going to kill frames in stream good idea yeah yet I mean you probably have way way way way way more than you ggtort CPU horsepower than you need for all that but um yeah the nice thing about the 1950 X is the frequencies are very nice and it does have I'm there's this stuff we're not supposed to talk about it's got good stuff for making sure that if you're not using all the cores that it's running at a higher frequency so gaming performance has been pretty good yeah so I think you've got a good solution there especially if you're looking for something that can handle both the gaming and streaming yep max finally max mikheev 5 bucks does a 560 X from AMD Strix pair well with a phenom ii x4 98 as it's a slightly older recommendation and I'm not as fresh with that knowledge yeah I may be I don't think you would be severely but when I have phenom ii x4 980 is getting pretty outdated at this point so um I might consider horizon 3 or keeping up upgrade options in mind I would say Rison 3 is probably a fair pairing with a with an RX 560 and yeah and the Rison 3 outperforms that phenom 2 quite a bit so I feel like you're a bit o peed with your graphics resolution at the moment and then finally Joel shall see that $5.00 hey guys kitchen wife's came again and had to remind you that Aussie money is dollar really lose yeah dollar e dues why thank you very much for the five dollar reduced Joe appreciate sir well I'm didgeridoo didgeridoo and that is gonna conclude it for my half the show so what's a before we sign off let's go ahead and do some Johnson's Johnson's Jane I have five five five Johnson's oh yeah do it 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