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Awesome Hardware #0116-A: RX Vega Pricing Change, Intel ICE LAKE & more!

2017-08-15
to both YouTube and twitch so let's start the show what's up everybody this is awesome hardware episode 116 hey guys if I remember how to count and this is a live show that Paul and I do every single Tuesday at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time right here on twitch.tv slash awesome hardware on YouTube we like to split up into two halves that was nothing nothing happened nothing you just scream and people think you crazy but at least they won't think you forgot to mute your laptop alright so we'd like to split this show up into two halves on YouTube so this week the first half is on my channel youtube.com slash c / big wits and then in about an hour so we're gonna switch it over to Paul's channel youtube.com slash Paul's Hardware you can go ahead and find that link in the description of this YouTube video if you guys are just watching this on Twitch just stay where you are you're already in the right place we're gonna be streaming constantly channel and yeah a little upsell or a beautiful moderator and friend what up old school everybody else we're Watchers yes yeah yeah yeah it's gonna be a fun show I can feel it I feel it my bones it's gonna be great and I'm obligating to say that because it's a show that I coast I actually feel like it is I feel like a weight is being lifted after we're kind of clawing our way out of the fucking week that's true oh sorry because sometimes on the show - dad that was a good way to impose that point apologies super those of you who are offended by that occasionally we curse as we drink beer usually we like to make the announcement that we curse before we actually yeah sorry oh no that's okay you go ahead I was gonna choose but you gotta get all ears what do you tell me you're drinking first those introduced yeah I am drinking ba ba ba ba black lager odds like by my black robot races from the bonnet I give you into brewing herded is it UNITA Uinta you you int a Brewing Company and so yeah I have heard of that brand it's pretty tasty yeah good I like it Walker I like I just I just finished one of those and now I'm tapping into my 22 ounce of Anderson Valley he'll CH oh ha which is a double IPA in Anderson Valley also does the boot amber ale that we like they do it's good I've never had this one before and I'm like ICS I have an oatmeal stout that is pretty tasty as well yes they do it's very true but Joe Cheers cheers to all of you at home as well thank you for watching us that was that those every think you know thanks for being here guys gonna make the last crack mm-hmm it's quite good yes thank you very much for being here what's so quickly trying to sell you some stuff we're gonna sell you all the things so my store is bibliothèque slash store yeah things you can buy a limited edition navy tri-blend shirt with the bit low go on it that that's it's a nice little refreshing change from just the usual black shirts that I sell in my store black is generally my favorite you know color of choice when it comes to t-shirts but this is a little bit addition to anyone your stars your stores down I know everyone rushing to the store so quickly now that's a very lovely very lovely blend it's a great shirt and you can also buy fidget spinners the genders are still in stock there's probably a dozen or so left go ahead and buy those right now they're great they're great for spinning and fidgeting here's my store John if you're watching I'm so so sorry I'm so so sorry no John is said no because John you're sending emails now saying like like why do you hate me instead you know what I spent a good a good sick I don't know how many hours doing over the past 24 hours removing links from every single one of my youtube videos now that was something I needed to add to my to-do list yeah yeah Heather's doing that for me tomorrow yeah so that was fun anyway my store is here if you guys wanna buy some stuff I do mugs effect classes it's all new high quality stuff yep thanks for your support if you do I will shout your name at the end of the show if you buy stuff no no never mind about the buying stuff together right you paid disaster submit shipping Calista Chipping prices have decreased a little bit you get the International price shipping is still outrageously expensive let's move on to our first segment that's what we call them it's hot in heavy hardware we talked about hardware that's hot and heavy coming up soon this is from a data they were launching their fastest SSD ever there sssst not the fastest SSD but that's so exciting it's the xpg falls under their xpg series which is they also make DDR give you our memory under the under that series and now we're seeing an m2 SSD appear under the xpg branding this is the X X I'm sorry SX 9000 PCIe gen3 by for MGM a SSD inspector features of Marvel have we seen an MDOT 2 + SSD hey have you seen that ended up to nvme dry form a dough to get if we have it has it really made much much head which news hasn't I haven't heard of it so this might be one of the first and it's featuring that a Marvel controller Marvel controller there is not much info on their product page about the controller itself that just says it's Marvel and it's got sequential reads and writes of up to 2800 let's say yes yes oh they do hey where'd you get this believe it or not it's the XP g sx 8000 okay so this is like sort of the the successor to that what it that one sucks now yeah now I'm disappointed that that I have that man I guess I can just keep it all the sound I bought that oh you bought it yes Wow see see guys US tech reviews we actually buy things ourselves sometimes SSDs SSDs are the kind of thing I can still impulse buy I can still be like I need more SSDs like I just I always do I agree especially like a little like little 5 500 gig nvme SSD drives for test beds now oh like I need I need one for each one yes they with it's so nice cuz it's just there you never have to worry about SATA cables or say to say that any of that garbage it is nice yeah unless unless the the OSD I'm not to spot is underneath where the graphics card mats that can be sometimes pain but I totally get you alright so this is a 2 SSD apparently the newer bigger brother of the SX 8000 the apologist but Paul you're irrelevant congratulations three hundred and ten thousand and one hundred and forty thousand I ops for the random four caves and rights respectively howling dogs very fast drive actually to will be offered in 256 512 and 1 terabyte capacities I put 11 terabyte capacity that's sorry everybody they did it has been touting great durability and reliability for these drives claiming that there's a thousand terabyte twb or total bytes written is that right total written bytes but then the article says total bytes written the article or the acronym seems a little bit off from what it means but whatever happened some time this total bytes written made this total bytes written but it is the acronym definitely twb and not tvw because this is how it was written the article might have been typo movement it okay well we'll call it TB w then and an mtbf a lot of acronyms here which is the mean time between failures a more common term that's a figure of two million hours so pretty much two million hours of just write write cycles I can that can occur before things maybe you go south where leveling is also supposed to aid and durability on this drive it'll also include a I don't know if here is included one but an XP g-sync I haven't opened it yet oh you haven't even opened it good Laurie you can never tell with I'm not too dry because you're so light already so damn light and light goods totally empty still sealed okay see on the box fresh brand-new they can still return it from the ESX 9000 that's true a data should have a step up program so it does come with a heat sink with pre-applied thermal compound on it that's useful which is optional of course you don't need to use it'll be interesting to see if anyone tests that see how effective it is does also pack a five-year warranty no mention of price how much was that 512 gig version that model are you not at liberty to say no you don't need impulse buys when your impulse buying it doesn't you don't really look at the price it was months ago okay I'm sure someone could just do a quick Google search people look I'm like camel camel camel or something you can see the price history yeah I'd have to like cross-reference that what was it on sale or something why'd you go with that one specifically or was just one of the cheaper ones that was was available uh I was it's supposed to be Furtick Panther oh okay but I haven't a nice I haven't rebuilt our Connecticut so nice yeah you know self-conscious haven't done anything but hotline so long everybody Panther cow okay these are pieces that I'm completely disassembled it yeah no yes I'm suppose I'm supposed to have the water clean stuff on the way I'm getting I'm gonna do I'm getting the monoblock for the X $2.99 Strix the Asus rgx $2.99 districts so send me my first monoblock builds which is kind of fun and also cool also hopefully a good application of a monoblock because the Exton any nine VRMs can get pretty toasty so you're going next $2.99 me why not why not thread Ripper I'll just ask him before Chad knows because I'm gonna do a thread river water cooled build - that's cool the best reason I mean I completely understand anyone who you know will hate on the Intel CPUs because of their prices that doesn't mean they're not functional CPUs yeah in and I have them yeah and I haven't think about like if I have like a ten core high-end process they're gonna frickin use it I want to use it yeah and that kind of thing I'm probably gonna actually do the eight core though really yeah I don't know I might I'm still up in the air we're still it's a don't worry guys do you ever when you're looking at a menu at a restaurant you're trying to decide what to eat do you ever just not decide and maybe you have a few things that you may be on and then you just make a snap decision when the server asks you yeah I've done this it's like that but it seems like you're pretty set on an 8 quart or you're not I'm not I just it's it's supposed it's gonna be primarily for gaming and I'm pretty sure they core would be able to overclock better than the hair okay one of those things you guys Lee swap it but I burn yeah yeah everybody made you know wrong assumptions about that platform anyway so cool we'll see how yes indeed that's very exciting either way so I wish you luck on that thank you yeah and guys I see you guys donating in chat thank you very much we will be responding to all the messages you attach to those donations at the end of each half of the show so don't worry we are seeing you and we won't get around to you so um continue giving us lots of money alright let's move on to our next article our next piece of hot and heavy hardware which is the BitFenix tempered glass case which you can buy on the cheap my brothers and sisters it's the Nova the Nova TG which stands for tempered glass the Nova is our the Nova TG is a follow-up to the existing Nova and it looks like you've got a call on your on your watch from from not a number and four note from from a ghost how much you can if your mass-producing tempered glass side panels how much you know cheaply you can you can make them for it seems like they're getting them from pretty cheap because this case is only 60 bucks and it comes with a full four millimeter thick piece of tempered glass on the left side panel and it looks looks pretty decent I mean for a $60 case you can definitely tell it's a it's it's it's on the budget side when you look at things like the drive cage and like it's got a five and a quarter inch base still maybe not the most room behind the motherboard tray for cable management and that sort of thing but I will admit that the tempered glass if there's one thing that could really amp up the look or overall appearance of your system it's replacing that acrylic sort of you know already scratched by the time you get it Sai panel window with a full piece of tempered glass it is a premium feeling sort of definitely it definitely is it almost makes you forget about all the other crappy parts of the case but it makes me wonder because the tempered glass is also like it's there's a certain density to it you know which is like fixed you know that does it can't you can't really change it so it makes me wonder if you had a case that was you know if you if you buy a super budget 30 $40 case you know they're flimsy as hell they're super lightweight yeah I'm wondering as you get more and more budget cases with tempered glass side panel windows like just how's that gonna feel like hmm is it gonna is it gonna be maybe it reinforces it it's gonna be like really heavy on the side that the tempered glass is on I guess once you build the rest of the system in it wouldn't be a bit true yeah once you have the motherboard in there yeah baby right that the front panel doesn't look quite as as plush I know like but think these also aren't that and create a picture Zadok true yeah but at the very least it's one of those things where I feel like like a case like this you're more so focused on what's inside of the system than the outside right it's got a very minimalistic sort of outward appearance there's nothing fancy going on it's not an eyesore but it's not necessarily something that you want to look at so really all the focus there goes to the inside of your rig which a lot of people are doing now because RGB is on everything every single component now pretty much has an RGB option so if you want to show that off then this might be a good potential way to do it let the light shine through yeah I mean and you guys can all look at the specs of the original Nova there's a slight there's a slight modification to the internal layout it's got to included 120 millimeter fans there's another amount for that for one of those at the front it supports three three and a half inch and two two and a half inch drives there's also a five and a quarter inch bay remember those those are fun they can be useful at times they can be yeah I have not even do one in a long time but it's one of those things where it's like it's good to have it when you need it yeah definitely let's move on to our next story here for how heavy hardware this is the last one for this segment apparently there's been a 480 Hertz monitor spotted in the wild kind of Asterix kind of this is an article from blur Buster's or originally from blur Busters and then recited by PC gamer calm but blur Buster's is claiming to have received a prototype 480 Hertz display in their facility the author of the article mentions that it's actually a 120 Hertz 4k display that is capable of hitting high refresh rates at lower resolutions it's like a 1080 you can do for any yeah exactly right so we don't know we're pretty sure that it's gonna be 1080 that makes the most sense and we already have 4k 144 Hertz displays around the corner and I think from like from Acer definitely from Asus I think Acer and Asus are kindly surnames as opposed to both have one like lineup or on that I might have to show yes more up more in Pauls good luck and and it'll be interesting to see if those panels are able to hit higher refresh rates at if you were to dial down the resolution any there's no mention if this prototype features g-sync or freesync just from the looks of it I mean it is a prototype so it's it's almost impossible to tell what panel this is if it's like one of those Korean displays or from a bigger manufacturer it's kind of got this silver bezel to it and I don't I can't tell if like they what's it it looks like it's just floating on part of a stand or maybe oh that's it that's a wall mount or I'm sorry yes mount looks like then mounted on an arm or something like that which is weird I don't know why they'd mount the piece across the front here that reads your mind anyone else notice that yeah spoiler alert minor spoiler alert the 480 Hertz feature is also new it's like the least interesting thing about this so we'll definitely keep an eye on this anything you know anything to push the boundaries of you know modern gaming displays is is always it's always fun I'm excited to try it me too it'll be the new thing big the human eye yeah I can't see past 144 Hertz stupid 480 Hertz I could totally tell the difference yeah but once you try 480 bro will change your diet compete all right let's move on to our next segment here we've got some other stories yes csgo pros will still wine yes you that ghost just keeps on calling yeah not disturb alright games report we haven't done I feel like we haven't done games reporting a while maybe for a few weeks now but there's a couple things I want to mention because they're interesting and they're about gaming and you know we like games here you know I feel like most of our audiences are gamers we just they just like to hear more so about the hardware that that drives the games and the games themselves but there's there's some hardware stuff here not in this article though this is about Blizzard who has as a company they tried changing the the battlenet name to just the Blizzard app yeah I was like everyone we've flipped or Shaklee aware of this but me too I had no idea until today stupid it's this it is dumpin thing I don't understand why they would change perfectly good name it was so cool because battle.net even had the URL battle.net yeah head was in that I it's been that forever for likes been bad years since I played Starcraft I'm not originally the original Starcraft right and that's why everyone like went up in arms and like just what Thor shit as soon as Blizzard changed it to the Blizzard app which is significantly far less interesting stupider um and it's a personal thing I think because you know people have grown up with blue sorry battle.net this has sort of been like a hub a central hub for all Blizzard players of all these different IPS to sort of come together and and play games together it's really been just sort of like a central hub hangout spot a huge huge huge huge element as the author of this article from Mashable says battlenet is kind of part of blizzards DNA at this point so the company has decided to stay semi true to the original name okay um so now it's now they're calling it blizzard battlenet they've just put Blizzard at the front of it Oh which I mean doesn't really rob the time probably I used to like awkwardly pronouncing like hyphenated names like that since Activision took them over and like they've been saying Activision blues for like ever so now they're sure now they think that they can just combine it with you later blizzard battle.net sounds not stupid that's that also sounds stupid feather I mean you can call it blizzards battle.net s' but you don't not like all the time it's like if it's one of those things were like every time an employee says it they have to say Blizzard battle.net or you can really never say because we have to brand it that way or said that's stupid as dumb see I I get the feeling that people will just continue calling it battle.net anyway like because cuz the Blizzard part is sort of redundant everyone already knows it's been it's been thirty seven eight over twenty thirty years since since battle.net existed you don't need to specify that it's blizzards at any rate people are probably happy now that it's been sort of sort of changed back to the old name so battle.net will live on forever for now until they change it again who knows alright next next story here hey hey player unknowns battlegrounds is it now hexa-core + optimized no good picks a core and more optimized this comes as of last week the week 20 update this was a patch that started rolling out last week containing both optimized game performance for six core or higher CPUs and a new optimized DUI so I'm sure all of you are aware of this game by now player node battlegrounds is the takes place usually always on a huge map on a huge map with up to 100 or so players my knowledge and apparently you know the developers have optimized it so that if you have a hexa core CPU which maybe even a year ago would be like well who has one of those only like the high-end desktop user release nobody but now why would we optimize for something like that yeah exactly we're all on quad core some of us are still on dual cores Jimmy's got a single-core but now we've got rise in which which give us gives us very affordable hexa core CPUs you're looking for but I was that was thank you I don't have my usual keychains do they took wifey sauces car today but I have her keys she's Gatlin she has a Boston lobster keychain open air bottle opener fast an elapsed I got her that packed East when we went to packed East long time ago Wow it's old school you know I was direct Paul was there all probably watch me buy this fascinating information right I don't remember that specifically how I do not remember that monumental moment oh and he shoots he scores I mean it well done I am coordinated coordinated nice pun course let's talk about course so with Rison already settle in we've also got Intel releasing or unveiling their coffee lake or they have just sort of already unveiled their coffee like CPUs and they're just around the bend they revealed that they'll be revealing their yes yes they've confirmed that it exists and stuff which are also gonna be hexa core CPUs there's going to be some of those that are six core processors so um player unknown there they're on top of things they're seeing the trends and they are taking action well I mean they're damaging you're doing incredibly well already like they the tweet that they have in the article is when they broke they've been breaking the records for Steam concurrent players and stuff like that recently oh yeah they beat out disco yeah they're not even their disease it's not even like lunched yet the game is still in beta it's an early access your the asset excess right so I mean yeah if anyone's you pick up battlegrounds is watching I doubt that but what would be really cool is like some kind of benchmark with pick up keep sleep wake up battlegrounds player gnomes fellow console I don't where I get use a very common acronym for pick but anyway kind of benchmark who can be runs that wouldn't that you could do that would roughly simulate the game that wouldn't really jump into the multiplier environment because that's a difficulty but benchmarking something like that is multiplayer there's just a lot of variables that you can't really control that kind of thing yes absolutely but yeah that's cool yeah um listen to Paul play unknown do it now I would like that as well I'm sure we all would I have even had several requests with all that they get benchmarks like well you do player like no one plays ashes of the singularity every was blimpliner no battleground look your best match look at the benchmark it's because it's it's super easy to benchmark ashes and it's not easy at all the benchmark battlegrounds oh no I'm gonna do some more gameplay of benchmarks soon cuz I did those a couple weeks a few weeks back and and it's fun cuz actually got to play the game for a bit yeah and also you know show that the performance of stuff so I'm gonna do that play some benchmark sometimes aren't a experiencial enough yeah sometimes they need to be um let's see okay pictograms would just be a huge bar a huge bar thank yous bar where guys fight to the death they would like the hot chicks that's a game I play alright and then our final game there our final article for four games report is about you know hey have you guys ever played oh gee doom like the original doom and just thought there's a significant lack of crash bandicoot memes in this game well if you have like I know all of you have there's there's a new mod there's a new mod for the very popular game that started it all as do muds just that they just never go away they never get old they never leave when will it end who knows turns all the enemies into crash bandicoot's yes so there's a cry like we're so old and irrelevant now Paula I didn't even aware of this crash bandicoot whoa meme that has been popularized on like sites like Reddit and 4chan where its crash bandicoot saying oh wow I would feel bad I would feel bad if there was never any means that I wasn't familiar with I think there's gotta be you know what I mean means that you don't know or you like you have to not know how that may mean works and they got looking up and then fortunately there's a whole wealth of information on the internet of like explaining oh this is that beam can be derived from this ya cetera here's the entire you know history of its etymology and all that kind of stuff I think it's like like it's like pretty exciting though I kind of want to bad luck Brian who knows everything has never been late when can they do this with with like quake though like I'm why not because I like some old-school doom it's just whenever you whenever you jump in it like mumbles last time you played it some old-school doom it's fine a while back like never I tried it like a year ago I forget what the contacts you wants but it's like you forget that you can't even vertically there's no vertically right all you're doing is I'm excited to say that makes it easier it makes it easier but it's just one it makes it a very different experience as a shooter yes it's um most shooters that has correct to go back to that seems like limiting right yeah when whereas at the time it was cutting edge there was nothing else like it so yeah it's definitely challenging to go back but but people are still playing OG do and believe it or not like I think we are at an AMD not the last tech day but there was an AMD or review as the Nvidia event that we went to in San Francisco earlier this year where during the whole like press conference presentation some dude like some like journalist next to us at the table Nexus was just playing dude and on his laptop the whole time actually playing dude thank you I was like oh I want to do that it's mine way more energy from oisin learning stupid GPU architectures attacking so um anyway I just thought I would brighten all of your days with with this awful information has a great anecdote Cal yes thank you very much and let's move on the show is moved up I think we've taken the show to a higher level we have just for you to pause at this point let you guys know the show just got a little bit better yep doesn't happen often it usually it's the the contrary you guys we're here for it let's uh let's move on to our next segment though which is face off this is a segment where Paul and I go head-to-head in a crappy online two-player game that I randomly pull out of my butt and then the loser has to do something embarrass right stupid what oh you mean metaphorically yeah okay yeah I wouldn't let you play neck I wouldn't pull some Hungry Hungry Hippos out of your ass right now pal I would be I'd be curious I'd be vaguely curious Hungry Hungry Hippos in my butt that's what I call it Cole I just I'm imagining if you're gonna pull a game out of here but it's gotta because somehow Hungry Hippos is what comes to mind we're chutes and ladders or shit somebody's shit some letters so yeah I feel like this is a trending twitter topic like like hashtag like I'm giving you pull out of your guns you pull out your butt can we get that trending no we can't yes we can no no we can't we're not anywhere near that doesn't have that level of influence like I don't want that level of him no I'm trying to make this large so people can see it I found this game it's called Dragon Ball fighting this is one of those games that's like based on a very popular IP that I'm like okay it's a good thing you're a really small game that no one knows about otherwise you've probably got a lawsuit on your hands but yeah it's it's Dragon Ball Z characters fighting to the death it was right up our alley Paul all right we both need the keyboard right yeah that's right this keyboard hasn't has a lengthy cord yeah plenty of length on that cord plenty length just beware you know it's okay so we're gonna play this I'm using the wrong Mouse we're gonna play this game Kyle just explain what it is yep that brings you guys up to speed EU oh that is Dragon Ball Z characters for sure indeed it is the most Asian this fun fact I did not preview or test this game at all so I got no idea well it's your half of the show so I guess your riskier but this is we gonna get flagged for no of course not maybe we should turn the music down though yeah maybe is that the actual Dragon Ball Z music I have no idea I thought you were the Dragon Ball Z guy ok 9000 the the Dragon Ball Z saga is is beyond my figure it's huge I do not recognize this song I do not recognize just I did not quite the the Dragon Ball Z lore master is everything yes I am not you would not I do not know the soundtrack off the top my head for all the just just merely a humble thin yes I'm a merely merely a humble thing I don't claim to be a whatever whatever they call massive Dragon Ball Z fans dragon dragon dragon dragon balls suck ulcers I do not know dragon blue ballers I don't know fanboy dragon ball fondlers' okay I am NOT I don't claim to be a dragon ball faun this is the only thing I can click up so I have to assume that's what I'm clicking oh jeez I didn't realize did not realize do you know no let's just just this is the game assume this is one player this is to play a game is started seven obviously do you even know if this is a two-player game it was under the two-player games section I looked up two player items that making you play another choice here one two or three three three era doing choice through here okay good to know I is our only option back goes this info all right go back and I was just like about oh three the first one and then maybe it'll give us do the second one is this us hey no no okay that's it that's a I cuz I'm neither of us doing that I'm gonna do it on the left okay I'm winning so is this the game we just put bets on who's the heaven I'm winning you're getting me asking I like the graphics I mean for a cabin 8-bit thing oh well oh look one player two player this looks like it's working sort of right okay perhaps select your guy it looks like we can only be two guys unless well they're grayed out so go on go on and then I'll be Crillon you should be Crillon cuz he looks like you shut up never make fun of bald people and I look like Gohan to be fair all right so they can RPG yeah whoa whoa really I think you're the best a here your thumbnail it looked like this side scrolling stroll with eiders alright with it alright we're gonna go into this temple here look we're gonna maybe have to press one or two okay oh no it's a co-op game well this is bullshit I'm two-player I'll answer that you got any what first player anyway wait I'm first yeah oh jeez I don't know there we go I can't believe we're actually playing this game with all those menus and the random choices we made I know how do and then actually kick in this guy's ass I have several abilities but it's difficult to say oh look at that yeah you're a nice palm kick his ass I'm gonna long so funny that I keep hitting him with okay come on he nailed me I know you're a vegan lobby bitch just pressing random buttons I found that Jay does something the keys do yeah I found hope oh shit there's two guys now right put they're running away oh nice combo there's several this lots of dudes oh my god suddenly I'm really in the mood for bacon okay craving bacon so hard right now come on it essentially has some pretty good mechanics like that but I feel like it's a pentile and we should just play this game for the rest of the time I'm down this will be your whole half of the show second half of mine the punishment is that we both have fun die you is I can do this powerup thing but nothing happens these guys have lots of I got a sexy combo right there nice pressing the button over and over I didn't know how to jump that's cool up up was jump for me okay that's much simpler than my Nikes and I think hey no nevermind I can't jump at all I think was just a dude hanging in the air or something like that oh no never mind a fun jump I'm learning I wonder if this is wave face like you could just keep coming until you die or something I hope so I hope it never ends oh look at that oh geez I got Dragonball let him don't let him fall yeah keep this balls here little ball wave yeah you know I really we're supposed to be killing each other but we can't we are well I mean that's what faceoff is oh yeah no this is a new face up where we were facing off against a okay yes punishment will be a suck-ass should be should we pay attention to Chad a being like what everything's fine it's fine we're all good by the way I should also mention that thank god we're running this on a high-end gaming machine otherwise that oh oh yeah the system would handle this this is 1080i yep we guys going in the system as well as a 69 50 x10 core process the only reason that we're at all able to I mean at this resolution with the depth the color depth we have it set to you can see all all the voxels I think our viewers could have already guessed that what the hardware we were running based on just how smooth the frame rate was it's not insult our audience yet so okay looks like we both win good good went cool that well I shouldn't say face off is concluded because there has to be some sort of punishment for for the loser but since since we're both on the same team maybe we're both subject to punishments punish my computer because my computer was the AI let's let's destroy the computer computers to drink industry pewter has to do the little green man thing is to be much better at it than us cuz he wouldn't even drink yeah Gavin Paul your computer got me so drunk and he's like dead Sobers all right uh let's um let's check some beer the conclusion we have reached let's check some beer video ciao so much better moving it over here yeah way better yeah I improved things as you made I just I had the head a head xsplit over here and I was having to like look all the way back to make sure things were doing right oh yeah all right we're trading beer beer yep okay let's see I could fill mine up wait what percentage is this beer that you're drinking this is a Lagunitas Imperial step which is nine point nine percent I am NOT chugging this I'll tell ya I'll take a healthy swig should should I grab the other beers what the the 212 but the 12 ounce beers that I got the black lagers the lighter beers why Emily so we can check them cuz you're gonna chuck B's right oh we're chugging beers and regardless of it there's no okay sure yeah yeah you do that yeah all right so now I'm left alone on cattles half of the show to do what I will to say what I can finally say now that I'm saying I like men you seem like a perfect time to come out why wouldn't I like men Kyle men are people many men friends yeah and lovers I I consider you a man friend this is disappointing but I considered you a man lover Musso to me - sorry this sparked my special boy alright so I guess we'll just pound this week what is this end let's hope this isn't like all so ridiculous lack lager doesn't say so much because I guess we'll just risk it alrighty it's always checking out sample but I guess we'll do our best like had to say doesn't have to say maybe it says on the actual box is it hidden it doesn't it doesn't taste such damage the bottle actually has a compass on it it has a north south east and west oh yeah you mean ties it's like that's also part of their logos look like a compass they're going west from west to east it's organic it's an organic beer well it can't be bad to chug then it's healthy and that was my next logical step as well right well I'm making that difficult to pound out of a bottle but yeah but it's alright we can't do it cuz we're Kurt glasses are occupied that's okay I'll just get to watch this Chuck for a longer period of time we'll give a shot all right to our help Cheers see I can't do that too much air I pour it all over you that's impressive I'm Jesus whoo I'm impressed yeah that would not have been good with the IPA but the Baba black lawyer is very drinkable barley and hops I'm Injuns no actually I don't want to know it's fine I really hurry it's not like don't worry about it over 7% we're getting it food after and and my wife's gonna drive us it's gonna be great actually what wifey sauce is making dinner tonight so well you get it hang out at least until my wife gets home okay okay sorry I'm lying behind okay what's next what's next Oh God aah I think my right eye started watering burps come in like you guys yeah and I think part of check out the beer for me is like the burp that is waiting inside of you it's just like all this gas expanding but we did it we did it good Jeff yay yay we're awesome won we won something we won I let's never do face off again and I guess now we can move on to our last segment of today's show which is tech news news whoo yes do it all right um let's let's talk first about um RX Vega and the pricing situation that's going on right now a lot of articles have been coming out and this is all sort of based off of a rumor that was a part of the OSI UK forum so again this is all speculation and rumor right now actually uploaded a video earlier that that that mentioned it and sort of discussed it briefly but apparently according to the rumor the for the the the prices that you saw at launch for RX Vega 56 and 64 there it is we're just launch prices we're just special early adopter launch prices and they are allegedly going to increase by $100 for each car so that means make 56 is going from 399 at launch to 499 and Vega 64 from 499 to 599 for the air-cooled model which is a news to us if this is true AMD did not tell us as reviewers that this was going to happen and it's kind of gotten everyone a little bit flustered and sort of upset especially because people thought that they would be able to buy they go relatively easily at launch I think because AMD one of the reasons AMD gave for delaying Vega as long as they did was so that they could build up more stock for watch and according to a lot of people that I was following on Twitter and other articles Vegas stock ran out within like a minute or two like after launch like they just they sold so quickly that leads me to believe that they didn't really have that many that much inventory but that's hard to say like that's really hard to say unless you work at a retailer like Newegg or Amazon or directly for AMD or something like that and those are that's also the types of numbers that they typically don't tell people like you never really know exactly how many were out there right it was asked at the events that we went to prior to the launch of Vega like what the expectation was was they said they they gave him very positive like oh that's strong then you know the inventory is strong kind of response it was asked in relative comparison to some of the other previous launches like with Belarus where it was very difficult to find the cards even before the whole cryptocurrency my anything happening happens right and they said it wasn't gonna be like that it was going to be better it's entirely possible that it was better and then were more cards and they still all just sold out because demand is that high or cryptocurrency or probably a combination of both so so that's what we're looking at here I want to reiterate that this this article is on WCC F Tech not the the strongest track record of everything being on the up-and-up it's derived from a forum post we could go into that's a forum post from OSI UK and so yeah we're waiting for some kind of official response on this I actually contacted someone at AMD just to see if I could get something before we went live and there's not much at least as far as they're saying right now mainly because the people who I have access to aren't necessarily high up enough to be able to say like here's what AMD says about this right so yeah oh oh they're really discussing right now is that demand is very high so selling out everywhere so prices that you see very often are legitimate purchases that were made from the inventory that went up for sale somewhere very quickly but it's bought by a third-party reseller reseller who's doing something like camping a website or something like that sure and immediately relisting it for $200 more right because it's a brand-new launch of a highly sought after item it's gonna sell for more than it's worth right excuse me do you think do you think that these that these prices like the AMD might be doing sort of what Nvidia did with their founders Edition where they sold it for sort of a premium price over the admin board partners so that maybe it will be you know $100 more than the launched but when we see admin board partner variants come out they'll actually be slightly cheaper than than the reference designs I mean that could be a possibility I like maybe so um gamers Nexus has been taking a very close look at the PCB along with builds I'd it's a dude who's very very good at looking at PCBs and identifying all the circuitry and all the components and how much power is being delivered where and all that kind of stuff right that's very fascinating to watch which is pretty cool anyway the PCBs on the biggest 64 in the Vega 56 are the exact same PCBs that's on the Vega front erudition they're very very overbuilt they're very well made the power delivery on them is like insane as far as how it's put together in the components it's used in everything like that so them selling even Vegas Vega 56 for 400 bucks is like brings into question like this is a very premium product that is at least as far as how they put it together when it look when you look at like the raw cost of components and stuff like that is this something that they can afford to sell a bunch of it for 399 what's going to change when third-party manufacturers get ahold of it like what are they going to change as far as the power delivery and other components that go into it mm-hmm how's it gonna affect performance but the fact that it's like HP m2 and there's already been a lot of discussion about how HBM to yields have been challenging and that's probably what caused the pushback if they get for so long because yeah they can't launch with like alright we have 300 of these available worldwide we're gonna send them out or something like that they need to have some level of stock available to have a launch like this so I think I think that's the other question is like yeah we don't really know what kind of inventory they had at launch and maybe it's true that you know the reason why they get was delayed was so that they could yield enough HBM to to have a decent launch but then but then what now type of thing right now how long is it gonna take to to yield enough HBM to like the second wave of HBM to so that that users who missed the launch have a chance to buy one of the cars and when they do when it finally comes around is it gonna sell out again within 60 seconds you know and it's gonna be frustrating for the for the end user who's not like 100% on top like at 6:00 a.m. waiting to you know hit f5 every two seconds to buy a car so it's it's challenging for sure you know so yeah when something is scarce it's gonna be hard to find and that seems to be the case with this for sure like I seriously doubt that this story is true just from a from a public perspective AMD telling a bunch of reviewers here's the price of the cards and whatever that doesn't like that's a really stupid thing to for them to do if they come out and they're like yeah this is true ever all the cards are here two bucks more right now like maybe that will happen like I don't know maybe they'll come out and say that I really doubt it because they get a lot of negative press over that a lot of flack the reviewers would be pissed cuz it because the reviewers are basing all the pricing off of the prices that they told us they would sell for right the fact that the cards are in high demand that there's being sold and then go to third parties and then being resold by not the direct retailers so their prices are going up like that's a thing that happens because it's scarce right so obviously you know we'll be interested to hear something direct from AMD about this even if it's just to say like that will shit yeah the cards are what the card the cards are selling for what the cards are selling for but they're just selling out and now and then the prices are going up because of resellers are their third party third party here yeah you know that kind of thing you know at the I mean on the other hand if we I mean if you wanted to play be like all right what if kinda game if you're Andy and you're Radeon Technology Group and even working on Vega for however many years I'm gonna use did they say they've been working on it they tell us like how many years they've worked on it in man-hours man years invested and I know that guy stuff it's an insane amount of time and everything effort and everything that they put into this if they're looking at something like alright return on investment look at the marketplace right now look at how fast GPUs are selling because of cryptocurrency and that kind of thing we could get a lot more for our money if we were able to sell these for this price rather than this price and the fact is right now regardless of what the public backlash might be we can just set the price to 500 bucks for the Vega 56 and 600 bucks for the Vega 64 and they will continue to sell out everywhere yeah because I mean crypto cryptocurrency miners are in the in the mindset that will just make the money back because they're because gamers aren't making money from gaming yeah cryptocurrency miners are making money from there they're treating this as an investment gamers aren't buying cards as an investment miners are so even if the the prices prices becomes inflated by a hundred dollars after launch some miners are still gonna see that as like well that no problem I'll make that hundred bucks back in a month or whatever it is and that sort of also leads us into the Radeon pacts and and how AMD is sort of you know sort of sort of touted these as as being consumer friendly and a way to deter the miners from buying up all of the Vegas supply but and I bet for a percentage of people that has actually worked I think I mean it's very because cuz there are at least I only looked earlier today it's been several hours but there were there were Radeon packs available granted you had to spend eight hundred twelve hundred dollars on a pack to get it but you could buy the card with the pack yeah if you wanted about that stuff together some of them were pretty decent deals if you were already interested in the stuff right how many people overall does that actually help out is probably a lot more limited because not everyone's buying that exact stuff and everyone has a bad bunch of money and everything yeah but but you know what I thought was kind gesture I was thinking about it I was like the Radeon packs like how many gamers who are already into PC gaming really need the bundle I mean who who really needs the the CPU of the motherboard and monitor and then I was thinking what about miners like if you're a minor and you're just like getting wave of this new craze of cryptocurrency mining you might like these bundles might appeal to miners more than they do to actual gamers actually don't know I don't think either of us have stories about this but there are some tests coming out now on cryptocurrency mining and they are not the 100 mega hash cards that they were rumored to be by any stretch they are even potentially not as efficient as far as mega hash for walk or whatever as 10 ATT eyes are possibly with the marijuana term I don't know I have my med card people I met Carl M I've done research I'm a researcher anyway so yeah they're not crazy good mining cards but they are still functional mining cards so that does still mean that there might be some interest in them anyway we are we're gonna discuss a little bit more of vague on my half of the show yep so let's continue the discussion there all right a really quick article about Intel revealing their post eighth generation core architecture codenamed ice lake alright so Intel is going to be unveiling their 8th gen core CPUs on August 20 they need to get vanilla ice they need to do a series of commercially yeah but no Rice Lake watch turn that out there yeah we'll do a mash-up between Vanilla Ice and in the end the night key Intel if you're watching I know a guy who knows Vanilla Ice hmm so like second-degree separation you know boom Vanilla Ice pretty much you do too oh I do too Richie oh really yeah from doing no a dart Davis oh right right it does the vanilla ice in the show the vanilla ice live reality reality show or is they did oh yeah that's awesome it was it sucked so I'm on the Intel website it says it says and I quote on the on the company website says the ice Lake processor family is the successor to the 8th generation Intel Core processor family these processors utilized Intel's industry-leading 10 nanometer + process technology which means we were finally seeing ah a die trace Essex ice ice Lake is after cannon link Africa that coffee lake coffee lake which is 14 and look how long they've been on 14 then I know so so so Intel this is reminder that Intel has sort of abandoned their their old tic-tock cadence where they had you know a process node or a process I always write which one tick is and which one talk is I did yes I'm doing it so be like tick no no and be talk Jake so I think that maybe which one's the process which one's the shrink in which one's the new the new architecture one's a die straight ones that one's a process to shrink what is it in architecture the process wrink would be the talk whatever doesn't matter anyway they're all talks that talk sounds better all the talks yeah deeper deeper um anyway regardless of our analysis of this whole psychic thing talk say you can see take that you know design is a double talk I remember is a double talk sorry never mind regardless Intel his has sort of just abandoned their old people talking tick-tock cadence okay and they've been on 40 nanometer for a while yes they've made some slight adjustments and improvements to it they've iterated the 14 nanometer process now we've got 14 nanometer plus and 14 nanometer plus plus with Katie like and coffee-like respectively this is the first time that Intel to my knowledge has has drilled out the plus designations a triple talk it's a triple talk sure you know and it's you know there's tons of speculation as to why they've forgotten the old tic-tock method we're not gonna get into that right now the important thing is that ice Lake has is sort of been confirmed by by Intel in a weird way on their websites and this is potentially going to be a part of their ninth generation core family as a successor to Kenan Lake which is going to be on the 10 nanometer process with ice lake being a iterated version of that 10 nanometer plus this is gonna be hopefully maybe 2018 we might see both of these new new chipsets or chip families hit the store shelves but we just don't know we'll have to keep a close eye on it the point here is that there are a lot of things going on with Intel they've sort of slightly like sort of like sprinkle these crumbs as to their roadmap for for what they're what they're releasing in the next year or two and and yeah we finally have a die shrink with a new process on 10 nanometer we've been stuck in the the 14 nanometer rut for a while now so and that's mainly because we've we've seen challenges right at a certain point it's it gets significantly harder to to shrink the die and and to decrease the the space between the transistors and that sort of thing doctor you have a dog and the dog has certain mannerisms and they just they're funny yes here heroes so that's all we'll say for now about cannon Lake a nice lake let's move on to our last story for today this is a bad news on Amazon Instant picker instance having your items ready in just minutes it's fairly a fairly instant these Amazon Instant pickup locations will be localized spaces where you can pick up daily essentials within minutes of ordering this includes things like like a convenience store items like drinks snacks personal care items phone chargers little things that are just convenient that you need on the way to somewhere whatever you're on a road trip and this is only to be eligible for prime and prime student members so if you're a prime student you know member from a university or something like that or if your stoma prime user you will have access to this new feature these actual locations kind of like the Amazon Locker thing but the way it works is that you place an order and when you place that order the employees at the nearest instant pickup location they know they die every time you buy something off of Amazon to pick up an employee dies no one's gonna die oh I'm sorry to typo that's no bit far-fetched I'm sorry it was a typo they gather the items that you ordered and place them in a self-service locker and then customers then visit the open they visit and then open the locker with like a personalized unique barcode and then they retrieve their items and then they're on their way this is within minutes of ordering people within that's 20 minutes by the time you get there it'll already be in a little locker for you to just take em again I think that's one of the things that ready player one that he does like an automated like you're right it's unfamiliar we'll see movie he'll probably be exactly so so I'm imagining like a dystopian future right we're only the few people who still have money money and are able to buy things really really player 1 those are the only people left it's the Amazon Prime members right because Amazon at a certain point they'll do a purge where it's like if you don't have enough money you get kicked out of Amazon Prime because you know they just have to do that in order to maintain the service standards for the people who have enough money so people with money be able to go into these stores get to get your basic needs your goods for for you know day-to-day life food of course toiletries yep and everyone else will be not they'll be locked outside they'll probably some kind of force field or you know take Plexiglas to keep them out and you'll probably have some kind of chip either like inserted and implanted in your hand or maybe your eye or possibly the center of your forehead you scan that imagine like super poor people like accidentally like bumping into the shield and like getting shot a lot of money it's like think about that look at automated voices like non-members only have a nice day yeah I'm glad we have sustenance indeed so yeah look forward to that the future future is a trippy thing man and one sided me too it's gonna be fun all excited and terrified all at the same time let's go on to some donations yeah ladies John and dick dirt came at 1 2 3 4 to 5 bucks it's about time lol Volta no no what the no Oh more on that in my Evans you know Bolton more Voltas on pulse app weeb $5 post feet I don't know what that means does that mean like you want us to post feet pictures of your fetish and where does that mean like after feet like post paint then what it's the post feet 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dollars and sixty six cents super metal Paul any progress on the HTTP see Kyle keep in easy pimpin to use fellas he could know pimpin absolutely zero progress it's like when there's there's like thread Ripper in Vegas yeah zero program like there's no time five I am like there's the Camaro declare award that I got the lovely piece is still sitting over there and the other room leaning up against hero's crate I want to workout it again soon cuz cuz I'm kinda I want to see how that all plays out you see how it works out to you it sounds exciting I just I wanted to do something that was kind of different super different I want to see how that how that happens I'm gonna make GBC too you're saying that I just built I'm gonna test it soon it's not gonna be on the wall or anything cool like that or anything special and fun trick the trick is just to have all the parts just there yeah that's all and then AMD retweets you instead like AMD rising tweeted that video they like follows htpc bills and I'm like this never like literally is just part sitting there oh there's nothing tonight flag a tweet about my own all right so let's move on to auto shell Kowski I don't regret that's a great last name it really is ten dollars I run a small computer repair slash building business and I'm looking into possibly getting some review samples any idea who or what I would look for for contact info for companies to request some hardware thank you that's a big challenge it's it's hard to know really where to go from from where you're at because I feel like Paul and I definitely had the privilege of working at Newegg and like making a lot of good contacts and meeting some amazing people in the tech industry who are at you know like Intel AMD Nvidia all these big contacts that we sort of made so I think I think what it comes down to is like look to yourself first if there's if there's tech that you have in your home review that first look look at what you immediately have as a resource and try to make it as creative and and unique as possible it's really the content not always the product that can make a big difference and to set you apart from other channels and then once you sort of have that established and you have sort of a reel to showcase for other vendors then you can reach out and maybe contact them through you know sites like Twitter or their Instagram I know it sounds sort of like you know kind of like I don't know just sort of unprofessional whatever but it's it's 2017 there's nothing wrong with contacting someone through social media if that's really the best way to get to them do it right though yeah very my most companies will have marketing or PR contact so you can get a hold of just be professional be able to present them some of the work you've done yes and you'll be able to show them some ROI and you remember they're gonna send you a product that's worth X amount of dollars to them yeah they're gonna want to be able to see some return on their investment from you exactly in the form of eyeballs on your video right so that means that know your role yeah don't ask for a $4,000 lab if they have a hundred subscribers ask for a mousepad maybe start with that you know what I mean that's that's not a huge investment like that way there's there's an equal balance between like everyone wins type of thing right people aren't gonna go out on a limb for you in in a business environment necessarily if it's a mutual sort of exchange then have a much higher chance of getting a product from them so yes hopefully that makes sense um Georgia Byrd Kuma's a Dix Akuma's Enix $10 Kyle from your experience what is the best 3200 DVR for to use in the 1800 X Rison build my Corsair Ram won't go past 2666 that's a bummer um I have really been having good responses with g.skill hits particularly I've been using the try bet and Z lineup I haven't really been using much else at this point because because tread NZ works and I don't want to change the formula if it's already working so he still seems to have you're really a liability you're really concerned about compatibility G skills flare X series is specifically made for for AMD configurations yes but make sure you have the latest to Jesus update update your update the BIOS on your motherboard that updates the Ajitha the microcode on the cpu and that can improve compatibility with certain memory kits and latest the Jesus update does have better compatibility with a lot of different types of memory as well as different memory configurations including memory where you have the memory on the one side versus memory on both sides the memory yeah I mean get that update before you even switched Ram because your course around might be totally fine with that at ISA update yeah try it out turn up jujubee's jujubee's for the 5 dollars donated on the wrong account last week my six month X 62 pumps suddenly died on me do you guys know if NZXT RMA exchanges are new or or reefer not sure if their exchanges are new yeah I don't know I have never gone through that process stuff they've sent me who's been new but I can't remember stuff a memory or so yeah sure not your Luke a from the 10 Australian perhaps g'day lads thanks Luka day lads love the content it keeps you busy while I procrastinate at the office about to click buy on a risin 5 1600 who does RAM speed between 2400 and 3200 make much of a difference or just go the 24k I would say go for 29 33 minimum yeah the difference between 29 33 and 3200 isn't that huge 24 you want to get you want to get right around 3,000 if you can if you get 3000 speed memory it'll often work at 29 33 just fine with the AMD yeah memory memory dividers indeed dark-dark Mockingjay from the $7.50 interesting contribution amount $7.50 three quarters of $10 he's very financially accurate love watching you guys I'm working on a new build right now and was wondering is the 1700 X worth the extra money over the 1700 knew if you're willing to overclock then no yeah if you're knocking over clock then or I mean if you're just gonna run the cart them at Stockton and and there's not much of a price difference because the 1700 X has been on some crazy sales if it's 10 bucks difference go for the 1700 X you run a little bit faster out of the box at it's like xfr is weird like there's been different things about it but it is supposed to be a little bit better XF our range on the XCX skew processors as well but yeah if you're just gonna overclock it and you're you can you can take a 1,700 to equate the same as what a 1700 X does yeah freedom freedom money Aussies new peer do I spend 9000 on a PC or build one really spend $9,000 on the PC come on what don't don't ask you the questions I mean you already know the answers the Reg Nick the red check for the $10 don't need the dementia deck T'Pol twice had to show you love why thank you right - Nick I appreciate that what is a good 24/7 OC on horizon 1600 with a be 350 chipset waiting for the second part of the anyone can OC rise and Paul ah status sorry you would do a follow I'll oh oh I know I've been called up whoa I want to do an advanced resin overclocking video ideas for it that I've just not followed up on it all it's been a crazy I do still have that in my brain to do so I hope I will do that 3.9 gigahertz yeah you 43.9 see if you can get four stable but if you can hit 3.9 like most see most of the rise in CPUs can do 3.9 all day without even touching the V Corps yeah really no issues yep Giovanni Giovanni aleikum le I like that name I'm just lucky I like you my name I like everything about you $5.00 hey about a 1600 x1 overclocked lovely RGB Kraken X 52 but reviews say the pump fails after six months your experiences other suggestions um when else whenever you have a pump fail on an all-in-one it sucks and it tarnishes your opinion of all-in-ones forever I've had several pumps fail on all in ones so it sucks I never have but have you made a video about yours and you were like what killed my processor no that was a leak again it still does it's the same part of the unit that failed totally different it's always it could have been like the same piece coming I would have been a sealants like not you know how many states Texas people based on my my stances I'm gonna say they're that good okay can you sit pumps can fail it sucks most of the companies that are substantial enough like your NZXT s your Corsairs actually have really good policies because it is so real so rare when it comes to replacing hardware that might have been destroyed by a leaky all-in-one I've heard Corsair as well as several other companies replace not just all in one but components that are destroyed as part of a failure due to that so yeah it sucks when it happens but most of the time you do have some way of getting your stuff back together if it does so I would say if you love the RGB kraken x52 go for it you know they had the X 62 now that it's it's the same as far as the look those it's just a different size yeah radiator I think right yeah so yeah go for Mei if you can fit the X X 60 Chism yeah sure go for that too but yeah it's it's there's no there's not many other coolers that have that kind of distinct look as far as the RGB and everything yeah also you probably don't need a super heavy-duty cooler for the 1600 X yeah just saying even if you're overclocking that's also true Libre 1000 oh that's not a thousand dollar donation that's do your name Lyra 1000 miles I have an Asus GTX 1080p I paired with horizon 5 1600 money is not a major factor and I make videos what a risin 7 or thread Ripper be better long term well you've already got the 1080 TI yeah your 1600 only has six chords you horizon 7 you can get a thread Ripper with 16 cores but but you'd have to buy a new motherboard he says money isn't really a factor yeah but maybe conveniences but ok yeah if money's not if I'm just saying if money's not a factor and go through and you render lots of videos sure then yeah going from six core to 1604 6n cores to 16 Xen cores will get you way faster render times and will save you some time in the long run true it's not gonna get you much better gaming performance it's probably gotta be roughly equivalent with your 1080 TI but yeah money's not a factor then you'll you'll render your shit a lot faster I actually found that the the 7900 X when overclocked performed better in rendering in W Premiere Pro than in overclocks river- of DX did you do a premier benchmark yes what did you find same same sort of thing no no there differ with faster yes by it's really interesting is a twenty or thirty percent I think was mercury playback engine disabled and stuff no I was rendering with mercury playback engine and they enabled because I wanted to render like a normal person and not like somebody who would turn off three-quarters of their performance for some reason well you know it's the same reason why a lot of us reviewers including yourself like to test our video or our CPUs at 1080p even though a lot of people who are buying thousand dollar CPUs are never gonna game at that resolution it's the same sort of thing all right if I'm being honest I didn't realize that when you have mercury playback engine turned off in the project which is what I did mercury playback engine can still be enabled in Adobe Media encoder there's a separate drop-down for it in the media didn't realize that had already done my render and tested hmm and then realized though I had mercury playback engine enabled well I guess I'm just gonna roll me quick you playback enabled for this test and there's like so many ways to but that's a valid as long as I did it's the same on both sides it's still fine it's like the whole like okay what's more realistic versus what's more you know I don't know what you would call it you know more which showcased the performance better or whatever it is oh yes at any rate I think I agree with Paul here where you should get a thread whipper you should get on the thread of your place or just fun to like if you have your money for thread Ripper and your evenings not a factor if you're vaguely considering yeah I can afford a thousand dollar processor hey hey you know what if you're gonna tell us that money's not a factor in your in your statements and the donate more than 5 euros alright I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go out and say something around the bush here my gonna shave way more money to the motive 15 $3 there we go love you guys building a PC for a friend who has been Mac all his life whoa that's rough rise in 1600 still trying to figure out what you you pairs best with it thanks guys I wouldn't go beyond a gtx 1070 or a mega 56 so you get your hands on it for cheap yeah um short story either of those my Vegas six my Vega 56 opinion is based on well of course can you buy actually buy it for 400 bucks and that's a big old question yeah ii what do you pay for electricity because if you're in a place like we are in southern california that's kind of a bigger factor than if you're in like canada and you have hydropower and it's very cheap if electricity isn't a factor then there are the vega 56 is a very valuable option excuse me but you might have an easier time getting ahold of a 1070 yeah and i think you can get one first cheapest about four hundred and thirty four hundred forty bucks right now on yeah i was on her new egg yeah in the u.s. that's marvelous for you i'm Nutkin fuss but thank you for the $30 a nation Damona uh Nutkins bucks five dollars Paul Kyle do you have any info on nuoc alumni Joanne tech lover have not seen her in months anyway here's five bucks for my wife's IKEA fun yeah freaky Thank You nucking futs um Jewish she tweets you can tweet to her and ask her what's up yeah haven't really kept kept in touch with her or too closely I don't know what she's up to these days I mean I know she's fine I can tell you that she's alive she's fine well there's nothing wrong with her or anything at that I know she hasn't posted anything on our channel and like half a year or something like that like I do know some stuff about her but it's that's like I just it's not the type of thing I just want to share cuz I don't yeah it's summer please it's not like scandalous or anything it's no it's just personal information that I just don't want to share that she's she's fine she's good yeah and then you know tweet to her and see if she responds she she posts food that sheets all the time Oh David ciao baby child with the $5 rats ones who donate Zuckerberg when the priests donate after me no there's still quite a few donations after you leave a child you got to see thank you for that one thank you very much sir 37 we should burn through these all right acquire five dollars right how thick do you like your GPU two slots super thick and they go three of it that's kind of hurts you're getting greedy at that point Thomas look in six dollars how about a duels the unmarked station such as the HP Zissou 600 versus rise in comparison pressed performance since old workstations are dirt cheap that would be an interesting but kinda nice that's interest like I feel like I'd be subjected to what you could get as far as it duels the atom workstation how do they run used and how how readily available those are but you know I mean maybe yeah interesting they would probably suffer a little bit on that on the efficiency side of things actually Reggie's pretty efficient it's true Colton Spears $5.00 follow me I'm a snake I love snakes Noorie has this a new snake tuition dollars how much you think I could sell a ninety nine or nine ninety FX FX 8350 with 16 gigs ddr3 all together for just them three parts want to use money for a be 350 rise to build to 100 maybe 150 bucks yeah yeah depends on your location yeah 120 go for 120 yeah I'm gonna buy and save between 1 and 150 yeah J ever at $15 Kyle Holland is still pretty badass with dual 980 T is maybe a water cooling maintenance video in the future yeah Paul sound board with Panther sound anytime arctic panther is mentioned on awesome hardware that would be nice we'd love to get a sound board in here we also like to be able to do the echoey effect another kind of thing but the only time we ever think of those things is like right now mm-hmm and it'll be gone yep very soon plus I'm sort of a mixing board myself girl just does just does the actions that affects everything and our final donation for the night for this half of roberts-davis $5 Paul and Kyle could a 1080 fit in the mesh if I see with the radiator on the front with a fan I know it probably would be a tight fit yes you should be fed you should be totally fine there's plenty of space in there it's a it's a relatively compact case yeah but it has full graphics port graphics card support even if you wanted to put a radiator in there I believe you could probably even fit yeah I mean I don't know if you can you push 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