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nine no six seven six five four three two one we're doing that to ourselves oh yeah hello we're on welcome to awesome Hardware episode 131 this is side B 1 a lot of show that Paul and I do every single Tuesday here right here if I have 30 p.m. Pacific time if you happen to be catching this half of the stream without watching the first half you should to go check that out because those are really good half you can find that on Paul's channel that's youtube.com slash Paul's Hardware you could find a link in the description below of my video as they're watching here on youtube if you're watching on twitch.tv just stay where you are and welcome back there's a fun tech news show we like to talk about lots of different things and have a couple drinks cheers to all of you who are joining us today with your own drinks if you're of legal drinking age also it's it's an adult show more or less so we tend to swear on occasion and sorry fuck so just you know if you have little ones in the room shoo them off and stuff and all will be gravy you're I think it mad at you or anything um also we have an announcement that I don't know did we even plug this on your half now shall we forget I totally forgot so let's plug it on my half which is on December 9th mark your freakin calendars a week and a half December 9th of 2017 Paul and I will be doing a charity livestream we're gonna be streaming for twelve hours on Saturday a full that means that means you get to see Paul and I getting together live for the first time in I don't know since the last time we did a freaking after-party it's been a long time since we actually gamed like sat down and game for like any period of time I need to set up very fun and you just I've set up my streaming system yesterday just like hate shit like really yeah like hardware's not really room it was my godly streaming build hey I still having trouble she doesn't troubleshoot no shit it was yeah video out wasn't working so I'm not sure if like suddenly the graphics card is died or if it's something anything beyond that I have to assert of that well maybe oh maybe I'll be you I be i OB on this one maybe I'll bring my own system over BYOC or bring your own build build oh yeah I guess and beer why not well I should I should be able to have that cover but I'll let you know within the next day or two okay cool that is proceeding but we are gonna have we who give your system ready yet you got it in the works it's it's an order okay yeah we're gonna have two epic systems that will be not given away but it's a charity livestream so for donations will a donation will enter you to win wanted to give away to system so yeah full-blown gaming system so it should be very exciting be sure to mark your calendars guys December 9th it'll probably start in the morning at some point because it is a 12 hour stream we don't know the exact time yet but it will be streamed I would guess - awesome hardware what so again still need to do a little bit of testing but what I'm hoping I can have set up is that awesome hardware will stream just a wide shot of everything like both of us playing and yeah we'll have our noiseless channel to each version yeah just a multi-chain and watch the whole scene that'd be really fun to have to do a bandwidth to check as well yeah some testing on our end but so stay tuned for that should be very fun that's pretty much the only announcement we have other than that we're still selling stuff on our stores guys go ahead and pick up something from Paul store or Mysore caster will do my store a bit weight tech slash store thank you very much to our friend and moderator cell processing and chat for plugging this as well we've got tons of stuff here the RGB everything search we've got jackets jackets hoodies - new items on sale fidget spinners crystal RGB hats hats other shirts with designs on them mugs and glasses I'm very bad at selling my products but then Paul's also got stuff including if you go to Paul's Hardware 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is an article from Reuters they're tracking all this shit and they're saying that US retailers pretty much saw some record sales online for Black Friday and Thanksgiving this is not well we'll get to cyber monday later but this is just talking about Black Friday and Thanksgiving guys seven point nine billion dollars in online sales billion that's up an insane seventeen point nine for almost 18% from just a year ago this is according to Adobe Analytics which measures tred transactions at the largest 100 US web retailers this is cutting into the the brick-and-mortar sales no this is just online eight billion and online this doesn't even include brick-and-mortar which is insane I'm saying it's like if the I I feel like I have picked up on a trend in the past couple years of people who were like I've hated Black Friday like like brick-and-mortar shopping for years like I'm just like why who doesn't why would you subject yourself to that why would you physically go somewhere and pushed around like all the people and they talk just look at people yeah socialize that's stupid so yeah sit at home and shop like it's been like it makes so much more sense to me oh yeah wider variety you know my shopping and all that kind of stuff so like my question is like with first off people kind of getting more disillusioned with the in-person Black Friday sales and then second with sort of the the dilution of Black Friday like it's black November now right sales - oh yeah two or three weeks earlier so there's more people gonna like go like a full week after yes holding out their purchases or whatever so I'm wondering if this this big boom in online sales can impact that might like if you're looking at just brick-and-mortar sales like those the same are they up a little bit I would have to imagine as as online shopping increases those those are fewer people who are at the brick-and-mortar stores right yeah I would have to imagine that there's an adverse correlation between online sales and brick mortar sales versus Li proportional yes inversely proportional very very well said Paul um so I mean even and this is interesting too this just goes to show just how how like tech savvy I guess we're becoming are not tech savvy or just tech reliant commerce marketing firm kriti oh I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right said 40 percent of Black Friday purchases were made not just on desktop computers but on mobile phones that's up 29% from last year it's crazy like as soon as I think like okay we've all all pretty much now enveloped in the whole smartphone you know phenomenon or whatever and we've we've all sort of acclimated to just using our smartphone with service for everything then then some shit like this comes out like holy crap like up 29% from last year that's huge more and more people are using their phones for not just regular shopping but just for like huge you know Black Friday shopping and things like that and find myself like checking out on my phone much but I was like neither dude I was like maybe like I kept I kept hitting slick deals like damn it some deals but like I can't be like maybe there's something on slick deals that I should buy right now because it's a really good deal so I pulled up on my phone and browse through it right and there were two or three things that I found on my phone but like I don't have my logins like I don't have like my my stuff plugged in there right Amazon done but man so then I would take that then I just go to my computer where the log logins are set up and right I just my thing is like well I have the computer I can navigate the computer faster I can navigate on a computer faster with a mouse and keyboard typing searches and stuff like that with the mouse and and also I just feel like I get so paranoid like if there's something what if there's something really good that I want there's like five left like I'm gonna lose that on that if I'm using my phone cuz it's 10 times slower think I don't know how much you also have awesome kick-ass desktops which most people don't have most people don't even have a desktop these days they're lucky if they have a laptop most people just use their phone for everything and maybe phablet has an extension who even has a freaking laptop anymore unless you're in school or something you know what I mean it's crazy no it has laptops no I think I think most people probably don't even have a laptop I think most people don't even have computers it's crazy oh yeah well unless you're like talking about a smartphone computer but yes no I agree with you all the computers in our or SOC s but it's it's kind of interesting because the biggest deals for Black Friday this year were from TVs laptops toys and gaming consoles three of those three of those things are electronics so I would imagine that at some point cyber monday is going to overshadow Black Friday just because as more and more people buy online I feel like electronics of the thing that we gravitate towards most and here's some information on cyber monday which also saw some record sales at six point five nine billion dollars slightly under what Black Friday was able to pull but I I would imagine that the Cyber Monday and Black Friday gap is closing a lot year-over-year to the point where I think the cyber monday is didn't take over personally because I think people are just getting lazier and not just lazier but smarter and saying like why don't I just buy oh my shit online the people who will figure that out the fastest are people who are typically more tech savvy than the than the norm than most people and who are gonna be interested in technology based products anyways so this is also yeah it's super annoying this is also a new record for mobile phones on Black Friday I'm sorry cyber monday reaching two billion dollars Adobe analytics found that 75% is kind of depressing found that 75% of Millennials were more likely to shop on their smart phones than on their computers Millennials that's that's like my generation that's why I don't trust Millennials which is is sad because I would never imagine that shopping on my smartphone is more to my desktop hell no but just goes to show like just where the trends going like PC PCs are getting phased out computers in general laptops and stuff getting phased out for smaller more convenient more carry on you 24/7 screens and devices the top-selling items here included Google chromecast s-- Roku devices Apple iPad Samsung tablets Apple earpods and Sony PlayStation VR headset core systems as you know the sony sony actually sold more VR headsets than than any other any other outlets like um vive HTC vive or oculus rift you mean like overall now just just from black holidays yeah just for like the last week or so which makes sense because if you've already got a playstation if you have a crazy deal on a Playstation 4 or Playstation 4 Pro might as well get the hmd because you've already got the system to drive it right as opposed to like okay yeah you cut the pricing for the oculus rift in half great I still need $1000 plus system to run that to drive it effectively so makes sense PlayStation VR has been crushing it a bit best-selling video game Super Mario Odyssey I got to play that I got it I got at least try it everyone had raving about I'm like okay okay that was a huge fan of Super Mario 64 back in 1860 but you can't scream it right uh-huh I mean I mean you can if you know if you want a Nintendo to claim all your all your monies I mean I don't make money from streaming anyway so I don't know if it's a principle thing I agree I agree many struggles here at with a Nintendo streaming that's the topic for another video and then we've also got the Xbox one X was the oh the Xbox one X and then the Nintendo switch of course we're the most popular consoles sold over cyber monday just as a sobering fact here if you think that is a lot of money being spent here in America with seven overset almost eight billion on Black Friday another 7 billion for cyber monday alibaba's fools day Holly Bubba's singles it which is a really weird name that's actually a predominantly Chinese holiday that was invented by the e-tailer Alibaba which i think is on November 11th that day raked in twenty five point three billion dollars this month which is bigger than our United States Black Friday and Cyber Monday combined so um yeah we're yeah we're people you have to you have to consider also that there's a lot more people in China way of course but I mean so but you're right but still that's not for me it's insane Wow uh so all right so what did you get for Black Friday or Cyber Monday what did you buy did you buy anything yeah about several thing I know about some stuff what'd you buy also share with the class I bought I bought the 43 inch Dell 4k monitor mmm because it was on it was on Amazon lightning deal for $650 what's it usually go for only a thousand eight hundred is up cheapest has ever been yeah but typically I think that I heard so yeah and it's it's a forty three inch 4k monitor and I was like so big and it's 4k and then Windell and at level one texts I wonder what Ryan did a review of it so I wouldn't watch that and they're very complimentary of it and yeah and all that kind of thing so I was like alright I'm gonna I'm gonna do it cuz right now on my main editing system I have a 4k monitor and 2560 by 1600 all right complete about this I think before it resizes the windows all the time yeah dad and I just went for to 4k side-by-side I think it'd be better I'm just super nice yeah so yeah but it's so huge I finally I ordered it and then like the day later like went and actually measured with the thing like all right well how big is 43 inches gonna be there's no way I'm fitting two monitors side by side let's just you know its way to you these days there's no way at all so basically you have to be like five feet away yeah so I'm getting really I'm giving it to my wife so she's she's gonna use that monitor all right and as a sitting one as a single as a single all right see how that works and if she can get herself far enough back from it and everything yeah and then I went and ordered a different 4k monitor Oh which is much more reasonably priced it's an LG and 32 inch because I wanted the exact same size and and resolution that I already have as years I was gonna get another I have an Asus Zeus yeah PA three to eight and three to whatever yeah yeah and that's what we have in the other room maybe so I was gonna get another one of those but they're like 9 900 950 ish and the refurbs that were on offer I got my refurb one for 700 P PA 3 to 8 q I believe that's it yeah yeah so yeah yeah oh really 927 it's a really nice monitor but I was like man I feel bad paying more now for another refurb than I did back when I first got this refurb on Black Friday so I started looking at other options LG has a 32-inch it's not true 10-bit its 8-bit plus plus some dithering or something in there that gives it the 1.07 billion colors but it was 370 370 quart 32 inch 4k awesome LG monitor with very very positive customer feedback and everything like that so that was a bnh that I got that everywhere else nice 400 or more yeah I didn't check being a small yeah that'd have been a good source yeah I was I was all set to like buy it for 400 and then I was like maybe I should check around didn't be at it for 370 so yeah free shipping beautiful nice so those are the two main things you got I got it I mean I could go on I'm gonna do a whole video and unbox it all be nice I gotta wait a few more days I got a UPS again uh-huh Black Friday's really good time to get a UPS are they super dirty like usually like a like a mid-range one is about a hundred and one hundred 220 and usually can find them for 7080 oh yeah that's pretty and then the higher end ones are usually 180 to 200 ooh the one I got it was yeah I was like a hundred and ten or something like that's pretty good yeah it was very nice discount on that night I wanted a UPS for the garage I have one for the computer room but I want one on the garage dude yeah very very fast Congrats sounds like yeah you had some good stuff oh you got I don't know there's some construction going or there's a new tenant somewhere the building that's like either directly above us or to the left and they're making lots of noise it's very distracting sorry if you guys are hearing that you got an R yeah hey that's a great camera I love mine I know it's it's literally the best the only problem with it is that it overheats at 4k 4k you got the mark-5 and that's just that's that's really like when that come out the rx100 that was Jay's been like forever there's a mark to mark three mark for mark 5 mark 5 is within the past once a year I think yeah yeah I have a merc life because I'm two generations after my mark 3 yes okay cuz you hit the mark City yeah yeah that's good but it overheats a 4k mainly for vlogging and stuff yeah and shirt shirt don't say yeah they're gonna love it yeah amazing x1 I've I've had for three years now and it's uh it's starting to show some wear and tear oh yeah plus the auto focus on that is way but that's the only reason why I upgraded from the mark 3 is because the auto focus was the bane it sucked yeah it was seeking constantly and it was really bad for vlogging turned out but the mark 5 fixed all that and it's super quick and just seamless you're gonna love it um alright so let's move on to our next article here which is about two HDMI 2.1 this is a new specification that supports a lot of good stuff which we'll be talking about shortly video cards dot-com thank you for the article apparently report oh tech report I don't know I don't know I have video cards don't come here those type of sorry is clearly a tech report yeah yeah no I have no idea why have I got switched around I've been messing with links all right so what basically the long short here is that what do we we care about what this supports what kind of resolutions what kind of refresh rates are we gonna be able to score away with with this new standard so first off we've got a bandwidth increase of 48 gigabits per second this is it's gonna require a new HDMI cable so if you have an existing HDMI cable for your HDMI Chitti 2.0 version it's not gonna work you're gonna need an ultra-high speed HDMI cable but with that cable you'll be able to achieve resolutions of a k8k at 60 Hertz for 4k at 120 Hertz we're gonna be some getting some gaming monitors featuring those specs pretty soon or a resolution of up to 10 K holy crap for commercial AV and industrial specialty usages which is probably more niche there's also gonna be support for dynamic HDR for additional depth detail brightness color gam and that sort of thing we're also going to be seeing exceptionally low EMI or electromagnetic interference with this super speed HDMI cable and that's basically going to help us sort of reduce the nearby wireless device interference to create a cleaner signal backwards-compatibility I think this is in regards to the actual cable the the sort of cable that's not required you could use that cable to connect you know hdmi 2.0 and older devices so it's the same physical plug same physical plug saying you know city exactly the same same sort of shape and stuff and there's a number of refresh rate features for seamless motion and smoother playback which you can you guys can read about on the article straight yes yeah yeah lots lots of refresh rate features and there's also the HDMI 2.0 R I'm sorry 2.1 compliance test specification that'll be published in stages during q1 and q3 of next year apparently the the way the way that you get access to hdmi 2.1 for now if you guys read the the FAQ or the faq i think you have to be like a hdmi 2.0 adopter and you need to like sign up from like i don't know from a site or something like that it's it's not exactly clear although wait there was no other art like what happened to the there was a video cards article that i had video card hdmi 2.1 yeah it was right here when they had a fact they had a really useful faq on actually whoever wrote the article oh yeah general facts here we go um how do you license how do you actually license hdmi 2.1 and that spec in order to license that you actually need to first become an hdmi adopter and then sign an addendum to the hdmi adopted agreement which provides you the license for the hdmi 2.1 specification at that point you should be able to download the hdmi 2.1 spec off of the hdmi adopter extranet extranet extra net for extra net notification god has read the article I think the one from video cards I also you have no idea how to protect report coordinate the extranet is a backup of the Internet yes it's a it's what we'll all be using once the Neutrality dies is it's like it's like oh crap the internet like it got corrupted it was like don't worry we've got an extra got an extra net it's not in ER but it is extra so fun that I don't know I think that was the biggest limitation of 4k gaming or honestly was that you're still bottlenecked by 60 Hertz I feel like I personally have been spoiled by hyper 60 Hertz panels gaming on the x34 predator and stuff I feel like 100 Hertz is like now like I can see the difference I can feel the difference between 60 and hundred Hertz and if you really want 4k I don't think 60 Hertz is gonna cut it it's like yeah you're you're pushing the boundaries of how many pixels you're pushing but at the same time you're you're totally sacrificing the smoothness of the overall experience so this is sort of the best of both worlds and you know it's kind of like yeah I'll save I'll save the rest for later but exciting hdmi 2.0 is upon us that why are you pushing the boundaries of too many pixels Kyle of course not happy pixel harassment HP many you guys have probably already heard about this HP has stealthily installed a new spyware called HP touchpoint analytics client this is from computer world calm sounds benign Oh totally no I don't like as all spyware would have you believe Paul HP is installing a telemetry client on its customers computers with zero notification or request of user permission cool so it's like so Europe it's like super fish all over again basically basically yeah this is going by the name of HP touchpoint analytic service and HP is saying that it harvests telemetry information that's used by their touch points and a little excuse me analytical services there have been reports of this infection dating back to November 15th of this year just a couple weeks ago where one user FML user on bleeping computer comm stated that he noticed the software had been installed immediately after his after this month's Windows updates rolled out so holy crap this is involved its Microsoft mic aside a proponent of this it's unclear it's unclear if the software came bundled with the official Windows cumulative updates and or monthly rollouts roll-ups and or the security only updates like we don't roll up delicious or that's being downloaded by HP's own support assistant routines either way HP customers are pissed and rightfully so should be this is there's been no official word as far like the time of reading this article there's been no official word from HP their official touch HP touchpoint manager website says and I quote the HP touchpoint manager technology is now being delivered as a part of HP device as a service or das analytics and proactive management capabilities therefore HP is discontinuing these self managed HP touchpoint manager solution and the article didn't really say anything about this but to me it sounds like these little keywords that I'm pointing out here we're discontinuing the self-managed portion and we're now delivering the proactive management it sounds like they're saying we're just installing this on your computer ourselves without your knowledge or permission HP wants to touch your point and it's spyware so it's basically accessing and sending out or transmitting data that's accessing data from your drive from your hard drive from your SSD and it's putting it somewhere else it doesn't belong it's not it's no longer local which is scary and stupid and evil Martin Brinkman on G hax has a thorough accounting of the spyware how exactly to remove it step-by-step thank you very much Martin for providing this for any user who's been affected by this awful awful software so guys go ahead and check that out if you happen to have an HP device or have noticed that this suspicious software has been installed because it is indeed spyware it was even actually popping up on people's like Kaspersky and other antivirus softwares as like hey this is a red flag this is not good and of course HP is writing it off as like hey this is to help protect and serve you and as a user we love you we need we want to give you better ads don't you want better ads we want it we want the best ads that that all tailored for you cuz that's what people want get your ad on I don't hate ads and find them annoying I just want good ads their ads for me check out this amazing and um that's gonna be a so um I hope each I mean it sucks because like like I said it's super fish-like superfish lenovo did this and they freaking did it again after it was discovered like I used to recommend Lenovo all the time to people until until super fish in that Patil it like don't take advantage of your customers don't really stupid nonsense to harvest data without asking the and the shitty thing is that HP and like exactly the same thing like now it's like ah God you feel conflicted because Lenovo does make some pretty bomb ass products but then you feel like you shouldn't recommend them because they pull shady shit like this yeah same with HP HP has some really good products even now for example our next article is about their HP Envy x-360 15 notebook which is one of the first ever to feature the mobile rise in quad-core chip the i-5 I'm sorry the rise in 5 2500 view and the integrated GPU which is the RX Vega 8 it's an HP laptop and it performs great according to this article that we're about to talk about but it like I said when HP or big companies like this pull shady shit it makes it really hard for influencers or reviewers or whatever the fuck you want to call us to recommend their products so it's a it's you know we're kind of ambivalent here but anyway let's talk about the hardware the Rison 5 2500 view is one of the first rise and mobile chips on the market that you can purchase and it's got some ballin integrated graphics the Sena bench ar-15 scores for this 2500 you were basically identical to Intel's mobile a core i5 8282 50 you in both single and multi threaded performance to be fair the single threaded marks for for the for the Intel chip we're about six percent higher than than Rison but still very neck-and-neck okay cool it competes with with Intel it's pretty much the same cool equal great but why in the 3dmark Elevens test Elevens I don't know I say Elevens in the 3d mark 11 test the horizon 5 2500 you performed 91 percent better than the Core i5 8250 use until you HD graphics because you know it still sucks all the Intel HD graphics still pretty much suck am i blind here where this was so if you look at the 8250 you there oh there it is yeah yeah and if he it's cool because I want to do this if you highlight that it tells you what the percentages Tyl of how much better another CPU or system is so holy crap 91 percent better than the the i-5 8250 you and it's you HD graphics and this was in the combined test but when you switch over to just the GPU bound test the risin 5 performed 118 percent better than the equivalent Intel chip which is pretty awesome the 2500 you also significantly had more performance per watt which was I should mention that this is also from notebook check net sorry notebook notebook notebook check dotnet kind of a mouthful but they also found that some really good performance per watt for this risin five mobile chip it was far less demanding than the i7 7500 you but with roughly a 50% boost in multi-threaded CPU performance and 20% boost in GPU performance that's actually pretty good performance for what was even more impressive when when compared to Amy's own rx 460 I believe that and if you wanted to compare this integrated graphics chip to discrete GPUs that are currently on the market the risin 5 2500 you Falls pretty much midway between the maxwell geforce 940 MX and the pascal geforce MX 150 which granted they're pretty low-end like they're pretty much as low end as it gets when it comes to graphics cards they are below like the GTX 10 1550 I obviously but they're still discrete GPUs they still have like heat sinks on them with like full pcs PCBs they're separate entities the fact that AMD has been able to integrate this type of performance into a apu I would call it is pretty impressive and also the fact that the 2500 U is a risin 5 chip we still have not caught wind of a rise in seven mobile chip that will what I would assume have even better integrated graphics built in so very exciting this basically puts intel in the situation where they finally have some competition in the mobile market where they yeah that they honestly it's been so long like we had ultrabooks those were a disaster like god they're so expensive and they're not very good but there's nowhere else to go if you want a really slim laptop that does things other than like a MacBook Air or some shit so yay yay rise and yeah AMD just to clarify there is a Asus laptop of the RG Strix GL 702 ZC which has a rise in 7 1700 and rx 580 in it oh it's got 700 but that's not the APU it's ok yes a separate CP sorry arise instead of an APU yeah yes I misspoke sorry I mean it was it's it's a it's a detail but you I mean no it was the AP use right right sure it was just when you said that eyes might be used I was like wait I remember a 1700 based laptop at Computex no yeah I remember you talking about it recently - um I thought you did and notebook 1x to.net has an article on that - yeah no no I completely misspoke I specifically meant rise in ap use of course um but yes that's super exciting the fact that you I mean and obviously I would I would imagine that you would even have better thermals on an APU would you then having a discrete GPU I mean I guess it depends I guess it depends but I believe the folks over at notebook check net did not find any thermal throttling of any kind I feel like or I remember they they said in the article that they ran the Cinebench score or the Cinebench test twice the first time it was you know obviously spit out a number second time right after it had like a 3% lower score because you know at that point the CPU had heated up a little bit and maybe there's a little bit of throttling there but I think they also tested an Intel equivalent I forget this skew is gift my memory right now but it actually dropped like 30 like over 30% in that tests on the second run just because it got so hot that whatever cooling solution was in the laptop just couldn't handle it so the fact that we're dealing with power efficiency on a mobile scale on mobile level is huge I mean it's even more significant I think than in a desktop environment so really good you know sort of a general generational leap for for AMD on this one and definitely more competition for all of us so yay let's move on to the next article here actually we've got one from ek water blocks they made an announcement recently of their mlc it's not multi-level cell just don't get it twisted they're mlc or modular liquid cooler their Phoenix the MLC Phoenix it's a modular liquid liquid cooling line of products this is an article from Tom's Hardware Tom's Hardware I can't take it rid of your garbage top this is a new kid on the block see what I did there this is replacing the ek xlc predator series which I was very fond of I did like the predator series very much that was a refreshing change the somewhat repeated and bland I was only saying there's only so-so on the predator I mean I think they were super expensive but I did like the way they they they performed and looked and stuff this probably didn't spontaneously decide to leak well in the story did not have any experience with that as I agreed that would have definitely made my opinion a bit more salty but the new Phoenix system is going to be improving the brands modular AIO concept which they've already sort of familiarized this with it's going to have improved flexibility however and easier configurability over there older predator series of AI O's now the Phoenix gets the way that they work is that well first off you guys are pretty pretty familiar with how the predator was right it was basically just a self-contained AI oh yeah so you had a pretty nice right on the end here that had the pump right and and a block in it which is all attached I'm sorry the pump block is a separate unit down here of course all attached to the radiator so there's all fairly self-contained and there was some some compatibility issues depending on the case that used it in because if you looked at say the 240 model or the 360 model a case that was compatible with a 240 or 360 red might not have been compatible at this just do the extra bulk on the end but if you did have compatibility it was a very nice all like contained unit and they performed yet pretty close to like what you would get out of like an actual custom liquid cooling loop yeah so that was really cool literally but at the same time we've also got so basically the way that the predator series was the predator AO is just kind of like an AO but just with you know using EK products but this is completely different this is a fully modular system so everything in the Fenix the Fenix kit or the Fenix system is gonna be sold individually so you're gonna buy the radiator module I'm gonna call it a radiator module it's not really just the radiator is it it's a radiator and that kind of remains unchanged from the predator series they're still gonna have the radiator with the integrated pump on attached to it and the little PCB where you connect the PWM fans and things like that PWM control it's already integrated into the radiator so that you've got the radiator module sold separately that's independently sold you get the water blocks for your CPU those are sold separately water blocks for your GPU those are sold separately and then all of these elements are prefilled and terminated by the quick disconnects that you see here so if you bought just the radiator and pump unit you get this part here and the tubing coming out of it just quick disconnects that we're disconnected correct and then you buy correct okay and at that point so you can you can decide instead of just buying a predator AI oh that's just you know it's okay you get it you get a cooler for your CPU you could buy the radiator and there's various sizes 120 240 360 140 or 280 you can buy the radiator module and then let's say you only want to cool your GPU then you just buy a GPU block and then they have a pretty wide variety of blocks available at launch including the gtx970 and 1080 founders editions nvidia titan a number of adding board partner cards as well as AMD RX vega 56 and 64 so you can pretty much just pick out whatever parts of the loop you want and you can add pretty much as many blocks as you want to your loop you could add two GPUs to GPU blocks and a CPU block plus a couple radiators if you wanted to you could pretty much build like the the unto elite build that I'm putting together with this modular system you just kind of pick and choose wherever the hell you want so whether or not this is gonna catch on though is another thing they kind of haven't really gone mainstream with the whole idea of modular custom liquid cooling or water cooling but I guess this is their attempt at trying to make that more you know or that more widely available epic in chat was asking first off do they have Vegas 64 blocks for these yeah I know EK has Vegas 64 blocks I'm not sure if they're gonna sell them in this trim but I would expect that they would because yeah I mention the blocks yeah oh you already said that MD execs and 64 blocks those are asking can you add another module to the loop like another radiator so if you wanted top 360 and whatever and the answer would be yes as well you're having two pumps in each in a loop isn't isn't typically a problem right yeah and this would eliminate any new the the cool thing is that this eliminates the need for a dedicated pump because it's already built into the radiator I think for ek this eliminates the fact of them selling kits that are specifically designed for a specific configuration and they have to make a bunch of those kits in order to actually populate yeah like it so variety yeah whereas the number of people looking for that specific configuration is probably more limited yeah here separating the parts out they can sell them individually they're all intercomparison inter compatibility is just the quick disconnects right and then buy whatever block you need buy whatever right GPU and here's here's my theory on why this isn't going to catch on main stream wise is because people who are looking to fully deck out their systems with custom liquid cooling aren't for the most part aren't trying to just get really really low temperatures they're trying to like make their system look badass as hell and they're trying to they're trying to diversify and they're doing it for the experience and for the aesthetics in my opinion when they're creating a custom loop and I feel like this takes all of that out of the equation it's gonna look like any other system there's nothing unique or fancy or pretty about this in fact it kind of looks weird with the QD C's and no one's gonna spend $400 on this the way it's looking with with zero customization or unique factor or style points it's all about style points I mean look at RGB RGB sells and everyone's doing it because it's selling talk shit on it as much as you want people want it to look good and at the rates that ek is charging a hundred and seventy dollars for just the radiator seventy two dollars from the CPU waterblock and a hundred and forty nine dollars for the GPU block and that's where that that's where all these prices are starting folks it's gonna go up from there know people people who really just want it like cooler CP others gonna buy an AO there's gonna buy something that's you know 100 bucks 120 bucks and set it and forget a type of thing this is my personal opinion who knows I would love ek to prove me wrong and for this to just become like like like 90% of people just have this in the rig but I don't know so you I think you might be right I think the counter to that would be if you look at how popular all-in-one liquid coolers are and if you combine that with the fact that a lot of people are interested in doing stuff like custom loops but there's a lot of intimidation factor when it comes to actually doing stuff like connecting up tubing and filling a loop and everything like that if you can take the all-in-one elements where everything is contained and you don't have to worry about liquid other than just connecting up some disconnects and you have the efficiency of liquid cooling which a lot of people are interested in and potentially you might have a limitation of some of the like downsides to the all like too cheaper on ones where there's a little but higher instance of like pump failure and leaks and that kind of thing like the EK stuffs that they've made is pretty solid all this being said the caveat that I just pointed out that my predator unit but yeah that being said I believe I think I think there's a naughty there there's there's a customer I think there's customers who are interested in this oh yeah I don't necessarily care as much about the aesthetics are there enough customers for it to be a very popular thing that's that's a good question I'm sure ei I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sure whoa hey shots fired ek hell are you wait a disome like that Paul my bad my bad yes a lot of ways but let's move on best of luck to ek with whatever it went with whatever they do with all the new management stuff that's going on over there but let's move on to pin my PC you guys have been sudden you'll still up all right let's see what you got Mon stickit Mon Stokes malts dogs you sent in a system that was featuring a Corsair crystal case in ASU's prime X 370 Pro rise in 1600 X of course different ins 3000 megahertz 16 gigs and an Tek six and 21 gtx 1066 is your bike model and SST no hard track alright hyper 212 very mysterious interesting I'm wondering if the fan that's on your hyper 212 is set to push or pull because of it set to push you're technically going against the natural airflow of your case I would think is you're kind of confusing his with the top fans fans those are also saying take hopefully you have a dust filter up there otherwise you can get really dirty really fast it's very positive I'm not gonna knock about shock positive positive pressure in any way but I just hope yes your t-shirts stay positive burping so much I just hope you have a yes stay positive I just hope you have a dust filter up there at the very least if you do then it makes a lot more sense with that top fan on top year to 12 but apart from that I'm personally a fan of vertical towers not horizontal yeah personal favorites that I think I think getting a Corsair red LED fan for your final exhaust fan here would balance things out a little bit definitely and then as as is the case with most systems a sleeved cable extension kit for the 24 pin and your graphics card power would would look pretty nice here and clean things up over all your cable management to this quite tidy yeah it's looking pretty clean so it's working for me yeah just main questions are the orientation of the fan fans here and I know this is probably just me but like the front fans your front your two front intake fans how the Corsair sticker is like one's vertical and one's horizontal how does that bother that bothers me it pings my OCD most people don't care but fair enough um alright but thank you very much mom thank you mom next we got Jonathan he's got a core i5 4570 with a cooler master hyper 212 Evo an msi RX 484 gigabyte with a gigabyte board on the z87 platform got a you d3h there the UV 3 Hz I see eight gigs of HyperX fury 1600 and let's see even just a modular PSU would make this thing look so much better I agree um holy crap yeah that's a lot of like just like a spaghetti spaghetti cables right there in front of your power supply it's like a graveyard mmm I'm seeing alright so if you're gonna do any upgrades to the system advocates adding a second stick of memory I think would be first on your list just to give yourself with adult recreational more gigs of course yeah yeah get one more stick in memory before anything else cuz that's just functionally yeah totally agree pull your yellow label off of your damned Kahler for your cooler you don't need that on there flip your power supply granted you've got a red LED fan in there so like I mean I guess you're getting a little bit of a thick view of that but then the blood then again you've got the case sitting on on carpet so I'm disappointed I'm disappointed by that don't flip this power supply if you're going to but for God's sake you can get your computer up off the carpet please it should not be there it should be up on a desk paul is triggered or it should be on some sort of just something to get it a good couple feet up off the floor yeah your cables down here I don't know what you can do with those you could probably push as many of them back behind the cable management area as possible weird yeah do all those things and you'll have a much better case begin can't you get your system on the floor I agree yeah that's where I'm at thank you John okay next up we've got John Scott politics Joe Joe Joe Joe with a core i7 5820k next x99 OSI formula got 16 gigs of DDR 4 from a data and a an anthro great case of course RH 100 IV 2 and an msi r9 390 he plans on repainting the red to gold once the warranty expires it's really smart that's actually the one I didn't read the comment before I selected this for pimp you seem that was like the one thing I was gonna say is okay once you paint the shroud gold is funny he's waiting until the foreign digs I know like I mean I mean he'll I mean I guess you're sorry you're gonna paint that and you can't return it if M I was wrong at month 23 as a two-year warranty right when it dot decides to rat on butts 23 and three weeks planned obsolescence and the sign knows what they're doing okay here's the deal it's tough to pull off gold gold it's tough to put the RAM in the motherboard match perfectly that's Joe I commend you on that I would say spray paint the fan blades all gold yeah I feel like go big or go home man the old is lighter in your sales of course there are TV fans though there SP 120 RGB yeah just make a gold color just perma gold it there ain't no there ain't no like vans that only do gold point is RGB LEDs there because there are no fans that only but have you ever seen just like a gold like a gold fan they need to make that that's why our GB exists is because it's the RGB isn't there just just so you can do colors of the rainbow 24/7 they're also there in case you were looking for a specific or a sort of unique color scheme that is only achievable with the option of having 16.8 million colors it's difficult to tell but are these two fans here painted gold it's kind of it kinda looks like they might be I don't know you're right it's either their white blades that are kind of picking up some of the gold hue of the rest of the system or maybe these are maybe he painted those I mean I can looks pretty good I mean it looks like they match your cables pretty nicely if it's not just some weird artifact of the photo if that's the case I would spray-paint the other my ears in color here's my main complaint here cuz you've already said you're gonna repaint the gold that's fine nor you paint the red to gold that's fine your cable extensions are bronze mm-hmm everything else is gold I agree that's gold if I'm in a matter of opinion that's dragoness this is two different colors yeah so I hate to say it but I feel like your cable extensions are not matching doing a service to this build right I'd rather see all black yep or something that's a lot lighter that that matches with the rest of this a little bit you probably get like a nice spray paint like a gold flake spray paint and make it match really nicely if you want to go that extra it would be kind of a or you could probably just seek out a company like you know woz mods check out woz mods yeah waz z mo d Escom believe he does some great extensions and cabling like that i don't know if he has gold but you can check him out and source to some really great work mainframe customs those guys those big guys who do sleeving will have more options for unique color customization potentially look two gold sleeping options because I think that's a really huge area where we're lacking here also take off that sticker off of that freaking IO your rear i/o what is that cloud as rock cloud as rock cloud sticker or you can just model the new egg TV golden bill that Paul and I did back in 2012 that was six years ago look at this this is us six years ago five years ago five I can't count this is a classic classic video about to be sick diseased 77 motherboard we custom painted the GTX 680 this is 686 70 I'm sorry how many custom yeah that yeah wow we help plane that GPU looks and 3770k and 70 K yeah sure oh yeah three to four horse all the old all the first like original SS look at my video every every showing is just wearing a t-shirt and then as the video progresses I sneakily add more and more bling now he's got our gold ring on it's like wait he didn't have it in the last shot yeah what is he gonna have it little chain yes there we go oh that deck that Corsair case though this 600 T was baller how the six out of T custom English so nice that was a really good paint job from the guys that of course here used so if you want if you want to go gold and sand and that shit ECS me you've got a high standard so now Kyle is this is really the gold standard for gold build up I love how it's like darts with just as a crop in like it's super zoomed in yeah you're like wait is he really yeah [Laughter] how many hands does it take to screw in a CPU cooler and then look how young you look I look young I don't know you I don't you look the same but yours very my beard out there you can tell ya I be a great where's Kyle I come out sound I kind of at some point all right now get the coat I get I get that and I got I actually have a new necklace this pimp on it I just throw you some zip ties and I walk away and go back to pimping pimping needs attendant to that was the really nice like a golden and there's something hanging from this video quarter million views it's not bad oh I'm bad only 76 dislike you realize you realize it now make money in the chalices this piece what do I says if BC soap if even I owe a bit of a case cord no shit J give it to yourself J gosh I love a J all right classic golden build bicycle mill bit of a sidetrack there yep you know we just did we just basically did a react video we can't middle of our next one from we just did Joe right yeah we got Rob Rob Rob faster bit with the gtx 970m the all right what do we got here Hey all right it's really clean the impression is super clean tables obviously immediate follow-up is yeah ketchup mustard pitcher master cables um but you know if you just got a power supply that had all black cables they wouldn't necessarily need to be like sleeved or anything I think for a budget all right a system on this caliber of this caliber I think just a regular you know black wire like the ones you have your your GPU look fine for this no one's expecting you to have beautifully sleeved cables professionally done in a system like this the other thing I'll say though is that I wish the mother board PCB wasn't brown yeah it kind of makes it stand out a bit a little bit but yeah like the only thing the only thing I really really want is just a 24-pin extension and then everything is is looking perfect and clean as far as the build itself goes yeah wouldn't change much um you're still at that point where like improving your hardware is more important than aesthetics well very much Robin next finally we've got Andrew Andrew with an AMD r5 1600 at 3.8 gigahertz you've got an as rocket a e350 Pro before motherboard and besides gtx 980ti armor 2x eina of course okay what do we got um okay ketchup and mustard obviously again this is one of those systems that's more on the budget side of things so I would I would say upgrade your core hardware I think the rise in 1600 is great as is the graphics card I mean you have a gtx 980ti actually you're doing pretty good here honestly I feel like what is this case DIY it's a DIY okay I feel like that's your limiting factors that's the thing that I hate the most does yeah yeah everything I like looking at your heart like okay I'm assuming that your CPU or GPU is crap no those are both really good it's just your case I have had D values the overall negative experiences with DIY if you see in the past those Oh bye so that's to be considered yeah yeah um no guys forgive me in chat it's not a budget I thought it was a budget from looking at I mean you would think that its budget from looking at it but it's not it's a budget it looks like a super budget case and oftentimes the case alone can make an entire system look like it's pretty cheap it's a system where the actual internal majority of the investment has been made into the parts that make a difference so I completely makes components and nati a flare x-kid of 3200 speed memory which is a very nice pairing for the CPU and you've got a budget case a fairly budget power supply a fairly budget motherboard the a B 350 per for is a nice performer in the be 350 category though it's actually got reasonable power delivery and cooling so you can get a reasonable overclock out of it hence the 1600 at 3.8 gigahertz so yeah it's just the case the case is cheap I parrot the power supply is cheap and has ketchup and mustard cables I bet those Thermaltake ring fans at your intake are worth more than the entire case you're probably right about that when we surprised go for the case you have a you have a very powerful system there's a couple things that could make it look a little bit cleaner cable extensions that kind of thing but I can definitely appreciate that the money here has been invested in the performance of the system more so than the looks of the system indeed um so thank you very much for everyone who submitted to pit my PC will be doing this again in the future so if you think I picked this time don't be too sad I say we skip say yes good I will say that for next time let's just dive right into some Q and Q yeah yeah wait not you get where the cutoff is oh here we go they're really are here for before your have stood easy to do and yeah we did let's see do we do our Clardy I think there were a couple more before before you're having our clarity for the 10 bucks rise in five 1500 X asrock xb-70 oh wait no we did that when I ready total rage did we do that one yes we did that too all right Tyler Joby five dollars i got an msi z 370 gaming pro carbon with an ASA i7 8700 K and the GT X 1080 founders Edition would it be worth getting a third-party card with a bigger cooler or another EFI founder position and that's a lot third party card with a bigger cooler what does he mean oh oh just like a different cards figures with you before you did that I'd rather sell your 1080 founders Edition and get a 1080 TI yeah and then you'd be good at so an admin board partner custom OEM yeah I'd rather have a single 1080i than there's lots of good third-party versions of that I'm 10 18s Eliza yeah yeah David Taylor Neil levy 10 bucks I upgraded a 6700 K dueled 980ti to 7700 K dual not 1080 TI to use the same GA or gigabyte z170 g1 motherboard being last cpu for this motherboard when should I upgrade to a new chipset / CPU for blender workloads and mostly gimme see you throw that blender workloads in there and it uses things if you're if you're saying mostly gaming it say you're set for probably at least another year or two mm-hmm give or take depending on how you know your cutting edge you want to be and that kind of thing thrown blender workloads though and I'm like alright 7700 K you're fine for that but there's definitely better available yes oh yeah and done how much of an increase you need in performance but yeah I'd save by and large with your setup you're totally good for right now totally good yeah and just sort of see what 2018 brings when it comes to what CPUs are available and and also how significance how important the rendering those blender workloads are quickly to is yeah like if it's not a big deal if you set them to go like as you go to bed and like you don't worry so much about shaving a few seconds off every time then maybe that's also if you want to take it to the next level with the workstation stuff and blender workloads I would suggest strangle a from mainstream because the only worthy upgrade in my opinion from a 7700 K would be going like thread over okay like a 1900 X or something yeah I mean this stuff right we already talked about earlier in the show like the 8 core potential main stream platform stuff that might come out next year could be a good upgrade for you but yeah it's really the blender stuff how important is that to you to do that faster and is it gonna be worth it investing in a high-end desktop configuration for it but again for now particularly for gaming you're totally golden Cheez Whiz she's with us the graphene balls are likely nanoparticles that have a higher surface area allowing more coating per volume given greater capacity etc I like that we're just like making like nut second ball puns and things like giving us a really scientific explanation which makes sense I mean balls I mean that's why they put you know like the shaved shaved ice balls like hand-carved ice balls inside of like really fancy cocktail drinks because it actually decreases the amount or I'm sorry increases the amount what's the maximum amount of surface area to the water surrounding it so yeah there you go all right thank you Cheez Whiz that sounds reasonable yep for $50 hey Kyle for finally being a good boy wifey sauce told me you finally took her out to dinner yes I did super nice but there is still the issue about you removing your wedding ring punishment for that pending oh yeah I watch that what I watched that you watch me twice hilarious I remove my wedding ring was LAT was it that last week or the week before on what when your wedding ring disappeared it did and you were like bit like oh my gosh like there's no way that this could have happened whatever blah blah that it's gone on the shit on stream and then all you had to do is look back in the stream like 20 or 25 minutes earlier and you're sitting there like I'm gonna take off my wedding ring and like whatever is I could save yeah I lost my ring on stream that's what happened yeah I need to watch the video back Louis thanks Fred freak a medley Josh Wallace $5 love the show you guys also need to move to Chattanooga Tennessee beta dot speedtest net result is just a link last place immune to net neutrality we also have 10-gig oh nice okay good old 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those are the three those are kind of the three main ones that I'm familiar I mean then then there's the the kind of more less expensive kind of entry living it's like Vegas yeah you know and those kind of things but yeah light works time first I've heard of it so just Premiere Pro it's like 50 bucks a month or even less than that like 30 bucks a month if you're just light works definitely seems like it's on the high end like I mean if it's been used for feature for for futureland length motion picture production but maybe they just I was skeptical about that sort of thing like this was used on this movie like okay but in what capacity pulp fiction like no yeah but I mean like okay we used it to added special transition or something like okay like how like a we used it for like one percent of the movie but it was still it's still technically can okay but just the fact that I've never heard of it makes me a little skeptical I know the big the big to industry is saying light works as a free version as a free version so I want to check that if you're on a budget I just know that the two big industry standards right now are avid and Adobe Premiere Pro Final Cut definitely used to be in the running and sort of falling back after a couple changes to the software and stuff depends who you talk to Penza you talk to I guess Final Cut does have some pretty nice good reason it shrimps taking advantage of Intel Quick Sync mm-hmm because it encodes real time while you're in the timeline and stuff rendering right or editing that's pretty so it renders so when when when you're rendering in a format that is quicks incompatible h.264 or h.265 but your CPUs background then it's pretty and sanely fast yeah if you're not doing those specific codecs that it's hardware designed for then you're operating a new piece so you feel like Adobe Premiere Pro could easily do that if it just took advantage of quicks I don't quite understand why Adobe hasn't like why don't they do that developed 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fans Corsair cube case Maximus six extreme can I bit mine with my old 660ti for the win 3G and GTX 1080 at the same time you should be able to from my understanding yeah they don't need to get all the same GPU right doesn't need a bit same GPU anything like that as long as they're plugged in and powered you should be able to mine with them just fine yep but my hands-on experience with that is limited so great Chris so Leigh's ten dollars big fan of both your channels thank you for the answer GX 970 upgrade alright you are very welcome but it all works out for you Stephen Hill what up sue Bruin take Steve $10 as usual thanks for the content but I actually have a question this time how do different capture cards cope with ultra wide and does refresh rate take a hit with different configurations your fresh rate would be limited by the capture card because capture cards are typically limited to a specific amount of bandwidth which is going to be resolution x frame rate Walter White's not supported by my extra core my ultra wide experience has been nil I've had zero they don't they don't have success in taking it like a 34 40 by 1440 signal even with a fork a capture card which should have the like resolution bandwidth capability to handle it's alright might be a software issue might be otherwise I think it's probably because there aren't many sources online where you can watch full widescreen or ultra wide content so there haven't been many companies or manufacturers who have actually manufactured capture cards capable of that sort of resolution so well they tried a couple those so I'm sure it's something that is possible and maybe something that like Elgato now has a 4k 60 can't record that they've just recently come out which i've been kind of curious about so you could see it happening and but it would probably need to be pushed by one of the capture card manufacturers to enable that compatibility for that resolution yeah thank you very much to even Zachary Hummel 50 bucks diam dude does G sink lower GPUs FPS output as well as change my screens refresh rate or is something wrong 1700 Beckstead 3.9 gigahertz for the sli gtx ati with an ex 34 predator as the main and 1440p freesync Mottershead up vertically getting under 100 FPS on the X 34 does it does G sink lower GPUs FPS output it shouldn't no that's not how it's supposed no it has enough no influence on that as well as change my screens refresh rate or is something wrong okay did you enable the 100 Hertz overclocking feature within the OSD of your monitor because there is you can enable J sync with an Nvidia control panel via the OS but you also have to enable 100 Hertz with the OSD technically it is an overclock with the X 34 so that could be if the monitor is set to a max refresh rate of say 80 Hertz or 90 Hertz then that's what your do you think is gonna cap at at beyond that if you're hitting close to 100 if you're getting like 97 98 then that's just sort of a little bit of fall-off that happens so that wouldn't be unexpected it would only be if you're getting significantly less than 100 and also just double triple check that s all I is enabled yeah you might be like well I only use 60 fps like you know you're frustrated still be a hundred your first rate could still be a hundred but your FPS might be lower or you know unless you syncs enable or something like that yeah give that a shot didn't go on my 40 again bingo I'm a bode and Dan $5 I'd like to thank you guys for inspiring my $1000 build I'm extremely satisfied how it turned out you guys are entertaining and fun keep on truckin thank you sir Congrats on your build we'll definitely well buffalo warrior seven five dollars and fifty five cents I hope you guys hope you pimped my PC tonight and joining a dogfish saison do both do either of you have anything invested in any cryptocurrency stocks mutual funds nope I have a 401 K before 1k I don't know I don't know I don't have any cryptocurrency stuff going on no never really delved into that Dave is for the eight Canadian fan recommendations for push-pull on a Celsius s 36 Venturi silent or dynamic will I need a fan controller as well and it defined as case depend mostly on your motherboard whether or not any need a controller and if you're able to connect them all to that let's sit over them for the venturi entries are high quality get the static pressure ones yeah the ESPYs and a fan controller I mean it's up to you you could wire them straight to your motherboard just typically will only go for a fan controller if necessary if you can wire everything up to your motherboard especially if it's a decent motherboard with good fan controls then you're fine there yeah jujubee's $10 but you to your last comment yes Rison 1,200 asrock ad 315 Mini ITX the c7 cooler from car-wreck I believe the G scale eight gigs single stick note to it to one terabyte 2.5 inch hard drive and reusing an old 560 GPU using everything I learned from your vids thank you this must be the four hundred dollar bills yeah everything looks pretty well balanced really nice yeah good job nice rob crib fifteen are containers I sent you the taxation is theft head ah-ha finally you're a chimp for wearing it all episode yet did it's probably only time'll everywhere - I think it's still like in the other room it's not over on me that's just chillin on the board no one's I think the MEP yet I'm just waiting for someone to steal it I think you robbed Christopher wolf five dollars been watching you all before new egg Paul more builds please Kyle more videos with your wife you saw I please my losses so you can find her a coffee coffee I don't know oh I have more builds like keep doing builds we all have constantly do builds yep cheese with you dollars dollars damn boot Paul how would you position the internet being essential in the 21st century to the average American to people who just don't get that any resource uh cheese was I would compare it to how information has been disseminated to the populace historically though the thing I like to compare it to and I know this is a little out there but like go back to the way the clergy acted in like medieval times great as their pitches which is that the clergy had access to the Bible and they were the only ones who knew how to read and they and a lot of situations actively didn't want the rest of the population to be able to read because that gave them the power and the authority of being the sole interpreters of the Bible I started take it like that like I know that might be a little bit of an extreme example but like the way most people get their information right now is from the Internet's granted there's TV and that kind of thing but that's becoming less popular internet is becoming more popular and we're coming to the transition point where your TV is gonna be provided over the Internet to the Internet is just a data connection to the internet that has all the data on it so if you want to be able to access all of that equally so you can look at whatever sites you want to read up on about whatever subjects then it needs to have equal equal access security peer was empty so everything was fine bottle scary yeah but anyway that's I don't know if that helps but do you have a did you get some sign up for YouTube TV yet I don't maybe I don't know okay not sure I'm on the free trial right now I have to pee really beds me too me too thing uh Cody music Cody five dollars I have a twenty six hundred K overclocked to four point eight gigahertz about to upgrade my GPU wanting a 1070 T I will I have bottlenecking issues with the 2600 K and the 1070 ti good job guys um yes there will be some bottlenecking depending on the applications or games that you're playing but I don't think it's the point where you'll be absolutely wasting your money on a card like that I would however I was sitter upgrading all your slam you plan to 2600 K within the next year so I would I would I would start looking at options to to buying into either a new rising platform or perhaps coffee leg or whatever ninth generation has around the corner and you can get pretty good money for whatever motherboard definitely for the CPU and the motherboard I think a 2600 K and whatever is easy sixty-eight z68 chipset motherboard you have with that right now FTP um could be pretty lucrative so sell that shit put it on eBay and put that towards a new Rison system or a new Intel system I think you'll be just fine stop Scott Dilbeck $6 66 cents do you think in AI 535 79 k is bottlenecking history a lot of ball knocking questions tonight Astrix rx 588 gigabyte no I don't think so also crossfire it with a 488 gigabyte on certain titles that's skill well for 4k yes of course you could crossfire it with a 480 if you wanted to in certain titles that scale well for 4k that is an option I always do recommend if you have the option to to get a single fast GPU over a multi-gpu setup that ensures that you're going to get the performance that that card can deliver whereas multi-gpu scaling is a little bit iffy depending on the title if you are playing a game or plan to play a game that you know for sure for certain scales really well with say a crossfire configuration then by all means go for it but the other consideration that you have to consider is a you know additional heat more power that's being do you need to now upgrade your power supply because you're adding an additional video card to the to the equation do you need to upgrade your fans now that you're generating more heat or upgrade your CPU cord because now it's being you know encumbered by the heat that's being put off by these two GPUs things like that SLI crossfire they add certain complications that often times in my opinion don't outweigh the performance that you would otherwise see from that type of scaling but every situation is a little bit different so good luck on that thank you very much Scott once again Channing Channing Williams not Tatum it's not that popular be shown yet $5 Paul equals professor honeydew from the Muppets professor honeydew from the Muppets I will be the judge of this yeah I kind of see it I kind of see he's got the round he's got a very round head through a round face that the glasses no soul patch though so that is completely completely false that's good call them it was very very very close Loic Loic Belanger Belanger sorry for passing your name wrong tenkan a tears is an 87 third k is automatically overclockable to 5 gigahertz I don't know you mean by automatically overclockable mine go to 4.9 really easy but it refuses to go higher without stability issues it can be the fault of cooling yeah it could be the fault of cooling you might need a better cooler to hit 5 gigahertz or you might have just got a CPU that has not succeeded in the silicon lottery as much as you hoped it would and because of that maybe it just doesn't hit 5 users reliably I'm so clean lottery has a lot to do with just the overall overclocked ability of CPUs so it's not necessarily that you're cooling sucks maybe you just don't have the the silicon prowess on your particular chip to hit that 5 gigahertz but either way play around with it see what happens Colby young $5 GPU upgrade for Rison 1600 x4 1440 I would imagine that your meaning 1440p GPU upgrade for 1600 X I've done a video on this to pair like what what GP would you pair with a 1600 X no no that was I think it was rising 3 never mind um 600 X I mean you can go do gtx 1070 I would say GTX 10 7010 7088 7010 72 70 is best bang for the buck still and he was 1600 X you probably don't want to spend a lot of money on a GPU 1070 then 70 I agree with Paul Fred ranch $10 any thoughts on the Alienware 34 curved gaming g-sync monitor I have not even seen anything about that neither have I I would not I hope it's not too expensive as we ready 4 inch curved gaming g-sync monitors for the past year 2 they're typically well above a thousand dollars so if 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