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Awesome Hardware #0132-A: Shady AMD and the RX 560! Qualcomm vs. Intel

2017-12-05
I'm saying are we assuming that you think yeah yeah we should be live to youtube hi everyone welcome to awesome hardware this is episode 130 to side a live show that Paul and I do every single Tuesday right here oh Jesus oh my god noob as you can see here we are very we're trained professionals and this is a very smooth operating show they've been a while since that goes wrong yeah so this is a live ship that we do every single Tuesday at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time right here on twitch.tv slash awesome hardware good to know the mics are working yes that is true let's see that's our that was just our audio test was a sound test approved and then we also stream to YouTube we split up into two halves there this week the first half of the show is on my channel which is what you're watching now if you're on YouTube and then you can go ahead and hop over to Paul's channel youtube.com slash Paul's Hardware you find link in my description below as soon as we finish up this half this is a tech news 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reading all the messages attached to those donations at each half each end of the half each half at the end of each half of the show Wow those I have not clearly I haven't drink enough beer well spoken because I always learn my words I'm sober but as soon as I drink I'm up like right as rain alright let's start off with our first segment since we were a couple minutes late today let's dive right in with ask the audience we're asking you guys questions and you have to answer honestly it's the only way that we could ever possibly get closer to you and feel like we know who you are over thirds for this what your voice we need that we need to hear your voice as a single as a single body as our audience it's a good way for us to get to know you with the giant globe in the background because you're all that's that's you you're the big world and you know we we have no idea who you are so we're gonna try to find out we're gonna try to find out what makes your gears turn what makes your clocks tick what mate what tickles your pickle I can't top that one stop right there the cuff and you know we didn't do what we didn't do at the beginning of the show announcement oh yeah well you're right we didn't do several things okay we didn't do multiple things all right first announcement first just for morning that sometimes we cuss and stuff okay bad language morning for for any heads up there we got some beer hey we're hearing about a holiday haze IPA I'm sure Nevada wintertide ale and also announcement this Saturday in four days on the 9th of December remember remember the 9th of December so we're gonna be doing a charity livestream for 12 hours we're gonna be playing video games from right here we're gonna be accepting donations which we will keep no no the donations we're gonna be are going to be going to charity and the donations will also enter you to win one of two awesome computers I've already built that have you built yours no Kyle's and Bill his baby tomorrow mine's awesome it's a thread Ripper system that's got a 1900 X and an X 399 motherboard and it's super sweet so be there be square I'm looking forward to playing video games no I'm super excited I really haven't done that in a while neither anyway all right so and the audience AWS yeah everyone join us um everyone join us for our new streaming on this channel as well as our individual twitch channels from that so that the awesome part rich channel and we're hopefully also gonna be streaming to our individual twitch channels - Paul's Hardware yours is what is yours now bit wit Kai bit wit Kai someone took bit with Kyle already because I didn't time douchebags dumb sucks that's okay my family calls me if we you know we should have done was asked the audience things did yes getting posted in chat yet I don't share cell did that hi cell and thanks for being here yeah so I don't think so but that's okay I wouldn't expect him to because we hadn't really started talking about it yet but okay go ahead and answer the first survey that we but Paul's thrown into chat I just posted it did you post it in both I can post it in the other one oh wait no I can't I'm not pals first question not all of you out there in order to ask the audience this is how many viewers are how many of you are plagued with ketchup and mustard cables in their system in your system how many of you have ketchup and mustard whereas now we're asking you to be honest be honest if you have it you know say you do if you don't say you don't don't beat around the bush here because it's because that otherwise is all cheap in our our answers because we're actually trying to legitimately guess what you guys have so Paul what do you think ketchup and mustard kills from those of you who are new or who aren't familiar ketchup and mustard refers to the sort of stock cables that you get with a lot of sort of entry-level power supplies that actually have the red and yellow wires that don't look all that great you guys probably have seen them a million times so you're familiar with it but we tend to call a touch of mustard just because it's yellow yellow and red and who likes ketchup and mustard in their build anyway so there's there's a perfect example Paul has just brought one up I tried and then that it forward us to an antique article this is where it's there everywhere this picture courtesy of an antic that's the Lego series ketchup and mustard right there it's like do you want some fries with that whoa Nelly yeah no kidding how about a hot dog throw a hot dog at your power supply right now that would really complete the picture wouldn't it alright Paul so it's it I think it's not a door you got a bet the percentage right but the percentage as always it's got to be at least the poles broken the pole is broken that's what Chad say what according to youtube chat I didn't post it you know Chad looks perfectly fine here maybe they just literally just quit I'm not I'm not sure I'm gonna repost it in check or maybe Katz is trolling some oh shit oh God are you serious it's making me log in the second time you kidding me just don't like that Wow with Facebook Oh what I hate I hate sites that ask you to log in with Facebook cuz I don't use Facebook oh yeah Facebook is like why can't I just log in without any social media site so the point the point we're trying to get at here stupid what what was the point you were trying to get at we're trying to guess how many of them have ketchup and mustard alright so to shut percentage-wise right percentage alright I'll go first okay 42% 42% yep 42% oddly specific it makes me think that you know something that's dead-on that's dead-on it makes me think you're treating some hair there's no possible way it's not 42% ah I are you able to paste the link into cells I liked it I clicked it in YouTube chat and it led to this correct page just cell in chat right now people might be clicking wrong they might be using the wrong like when you click if your left clicking Oh little Pacific action and if you don't do it properly you might not take a little known fact about using the computer Celie oh if that or that our people were trolling like honestly I click wait why are you still saying this click tit see I just clicked it and it did that yeah see I know it's fine maybe maybe the 404 people in chat not found or honest people aren't found yeah are you people with integrity where for 404 Liars in chat are found that's what that's what I found found it bullshit what now alright I'm reap I'm posting the link what are you sure it's fine are we gonna are you gonna are you there they all shut up now I feel like you're trying to change the subject because my my guess was so accurate and so dead-on I'm so you're about to lose okay but obviously there's a lot at stake here alright I haven't said what's at stake alright alright 42% I'm gonna say I think it's less than that I think I know the people who watch our show I'm gonna say 33 33 33 % 33 percent I think exactly a third of our audience okay has ketchup and mustard in their system alright so I think a third is so before we see before we see we need to remember those numbers by the way 42 which you're probably three probably not but before we do that let's let's take the first a sneak peek at the next question which I'm pasting in the chat right now the twitch chat i pasted it into Tolkien I'll handle YouTube so everyone everyone get a head start on this one which title deserves the game of the year in 2017 obviously Kyle has listed only the possible options there are no other good games besides these five well these are the the big nominees these the actual these are the in actual nominees for game of these and this is because there is I think it was what we talked about this player on owns battlegrounds is still in beta is still in early access it's not really a fully developed game and so people were like shit even be nominated but it is still nominated so Super Mario Odyssey basic nominee undergoing the very very number one number one video game on Black Friday that was for sales yeah yeah but they're facing that that lawsuit they are yeah that's so what being fun is the IP they're fun police is Homer they're being sued by Homer Homer Simpson yeah oh shit no Simpsons type thing destiny to has been widely has been well-received yeah that might be and it's on course it's on PC as well and then of course Legend of Zelda breath of the wild controversy there being that they were not able to add its twice as people expected the therapy to they can choose it they can make the option cuphead no I've never heard of it it's a 2d side-scroller I think actually I have heard of it and I've heard it's pretty addictive and fun yeah but let's see what people think about the ketchup and mustard syndrome are you a fan of it or not was what we asked you yeah no we didn't we asked if you actually have that in your computer yep I said 69% of people know you did not stop making up your favorite number are you getting all kinds ending your favorite number no because your love your stuff I think so so nice at 42% Kyle said you did 30 33 % yeah survey says you guys said oh wow I was pretty damn close so you were closest with 30% 30% all right well then and they have now it just jump it just changed to 69% well which is what I thought no that's not what you originally that's what you said afterwards that's true you're lying we have we have it on camera stop laying there are our fans this is so much fun hey let's move on to our it's good to know though it's good to know that the vast majority of our fans have have solid tastes are willing to you know spend a little bit extra on the finer things in life because really that's what that's what life's all about that's what our shows all about sees a little moments that we share with each other it's the small small things it's the little things I'm glad that there's most of you aren't subjected to that that's okay we need to render our opinions on which title deserves game of the year 2017 okay I I went first last time so I believe you have all right honors I'm gonna say that our I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you guys think Legend of Zelda breath of the wild should be game of the year because even though it is a console game a console exclusive I feel like Nintendo gets sort of a pass when it comes to the whole PC versus console war and really pcs are really just kind of the only real rivals they have our PlayStation and an xbox because Nintendo sort of in its own on its own Island right it's like it's like your grandma plays Nintendo Wii or whatever it is the switch and and I've also seen a lot of you on Twitter I took a poll and said what do you guys bring with you on trips if not your smartphone besides your smartphone what's the one piece of tech you bring with you when you travel and an overwhelming number of you guys said your Nintendo switch which I was not expecting and so it cued me in to be like okay this is this is something that goes hand in hand with pcmr the PC master-race switch and this is the biggest game of the platform this year so which is that's my vote switches get stitches switches are bitches get switches all right I'm gonna go for player knowns battlegrounds of course you are I am traitor it's this is a callous how could you I'm purely going for the win area I'm Telus Lee only looking at the numbers I'm like like if I has a stock broker coming in and looking at the gaming market and I had no idea and I'd never played again a game before I'm going with this purely based on the numbers right now dominating steam so many players people getting into building computers because player nones battle guns who cares if it's in beta it's game people playing it's valid and you think our viewers feel the same way I think that's what I'm banking on ok all right well before we look at the results there and see how wrong Paul truly is let's go ahead and ask you guys our third question of the night which is what is your preferred content streaming service oh and I need more like TV shows and movies rather than like you know twitch streamers and stuff like that so our options here are Hulu sling TV YouTube TV Netflix leaving Twitter big ones we don't want we don't want an obvious winner in there like well of course yeah any I'm not talking about there's a specific type of content it's more like premium premium content more than content creators right I'll go ahead and post that into chat if SEL hasn't already so let's posted it into twitch chat thank you very much self for doing that alright so it's in a youtube chat now too so you guys go ahead and answer honestly there what's your favorite content content streaming service and then we're gonna go ahead and figure out what you guys thought or think game of the year 2000 be also I mean but just before we show the results here we should clarify this world's exclusive for game of the year telling you guys who the winner is gonna be like this you guys are hearing it first right here pretty much cuz obviously yeah cuz whatever the winners this small straw poll is yeah this is a microcosm of the gaming community as a whole yeah watching our show I mean it's only the important gamers exactly we probably have all the members of the game of the year board all the board members watching us right now exactly so you guys heard it here first again my horse was was pub G Kyle foolishly chose that Legend of Zelda we'll see who have fool cervezas real fool oh oh oh my god % Wow 3 Purcell can you believe it in Tendo coming through strong with the win here ah well I mean I mean that I'll give it to him Nintendo I I enjoy I like I they do they do stupid stuff sometimes and you tend to forget it because they have such such classic legendary titles such as the Zelda series and everything yeah I mean I haven't even played breath of the wild so I mean either you have an either you pay no we never haven't played it well just okay everyone we know who games on PC that's also probably why I chose pop Jesus you don't think one of these games I like Steve Steve's the biggest PC gamer I know personalized massive piece and he is the first thing like when we were going to see yes I think it was CES last year he was in the car with us I think right and he had his Nintendo switch yeah he's a hero check this out and his breath of the wild I was like ok and then my brother-in-law Kyle 2.0 he he's huge he's a huge advocate of the switch and he he also was very black Kyle actually has a biological copy no clone of him I mean call them kudzu gluey no very inaccurate notices his brother-in-law yeah go on this is complicated I guess sure um so yeah I mean I'm not terribly surprised but it's kind of cool that's you know with our core demographic being a bunch of PC gamers that a console exclusive even in their eyes deserves the title of game of the year I'm impressed that's pretty cool brand cool guys pretty way to go Nintendo um and by the way you owe us two big drinks so far you could save them for the end since you're already queued down and you're about to be three with this last question here preferred content streaming service what do you think Paul alright you get to go first on this one I gotta appreciate that there is some competition in the marketplace but Hulu in sling TV are out this is definitely a choice between YouTube Netflix and Amazon you specifically put YouTube TV and in my mind I feel like not quite as many people have picked that up yet so even though YouTube's insanely popular and that is what we both like you know make videos for for a living I'm gonna go with Netflix I just feel like it has the widest install base right now like there's there's there's more people with a Netflix subscription that have subscriptions to YouTube TV or Amazon although Amazon's catching up and you know people might have incidental and Amazon subscriptions elsewise for prime or something but don't even use the video streaming service for example but for this survey here I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with Netflix well that was clearly in the cop-out answer and you totally fell for that yep so I'm gonna have to go from the second second big player in this situation which is Amazon they've been hitting it pretty hard with all the there what Yuma call it okay you put YouTube TV rather than just YouTube was that where you pay just no pay you what what is it to do anything to TV have some sort of I told you underground like marketing scheme going on right now where they're like hey we're gonna do some shady business to publicize this new service I have no IDE no basis where are you getting this a horrible accusation of it no idea I just had a youtube TV thing little like hey you want to try YouTube TV I I signed up for it I got it yeah is it just to watch like it's the same as YouTube bread or what no no it's actually live TV it was like a three minute delay or something like that but that's actually from live TV oh so you could like watch the news like cuz I feel like I've been way out of the loop lately like on the news like man there's frickin five fires you know there's like five or six major fires in Southern California right now I'm just now hearing about it like earlier today yesterday because I don't watch the news because I don't actually have cable TV so I'm getting frickin YouTube TV so we can watch the news boring shit like that and also occasionally catch like you know the Walking Dead or something like that which is on AMC and be able to watch that the the second that it actually airs as opposed to because you can watch a lot of shows on Amazon but they they come out a day after they air on TV so I'm like I want to wait today I don't want to wait today now a good option for cord cutters yeah it definitely is it would be if you actually were getting paid for this right oh my god I should because I feel like I'm that weird a lot this is the best type of disappointing that I'm not gonna bliss atif or something but yeah I'm not good that's that's that's mildly interesting yeah check out those free trial and stuff but alright we need to we need to move on I think the first segment has taken quite a while so she flicks I said Amazon yes indeed let's let's Wow a crushing blow yes a crushing I feel like that should make me win over all because like give you one like right percentage that I you know for this compare it like if you didn't we did that we did you know average you know percentages math okay all right fine well I'll take you take two medium sips I'll take a very very large one in fact I can probably kill the rest of this I'll kill the rest I'm gonna try to take one big-ass goal you know getting do this the rest of this beer in one gulp probably not I'm gonna try though Cheers you're not a pussy fuck wait why you gonna set that precedent well then we need more beer hoorah all right I can get more beer um why don't you go ahead and introduce our next segment okay okay sorry sorry sorry for what yes I would like beer Oh what there's they're all in pairs so just grab a pair yeah and they're set up that way sorry about the high-pitched barking everyone also I'm burping all no Cal forgets that like if you make any sudden movements nori nori is a herding dog so she freaks out and tries to check you all right so we're doing the next segment which is put my PC the name of this segment of course thanks ma'am handed down to us by the one and only late met filly God rest his soul he's still alive nobody freaked out alive you know I'm terrible I mean I would assume eNOS I shouldn't spread rumors about Matt Matt Phillies I mean I haven't actually seen the video from in a while he might be dead look nobody tweet Matt Philly right now and make sure he's alive because we're positive that that's fun that he's fine yep point being that my PC is where you guys send Kyle pictures me too I'm usually tagged in them and I look at them too pictures of your computers and then we look at them and critique them with and I mainly first then Excel though I feel like we do we do mmm I feel like we give sound advice on your segment right yeah I feel like we're we're honest about it yeah you know let's but the idea is to make things prettier if possible so it's pimped my PC our first submission here is from lathe Salman doc lathe on Twitter with an i7 the 6700 K based system the NZ NZXT kraken x61 gigabyte z170 MX gaming 5 motherboard 32 kraken a patriot viper viper memory that's a quite a got it got a lot of memory in their dual GG x 10 70's an SLI air-cooled wait what oh please gotten NZXT aftermarket so it's got a water cooler on the top one and an air cooler on the bottom one alright interesting i I can appreciate that the top I think I'm not practically parties is usually the hotter one yeah that's a lot configuration so that NZXT s340 case kingston 240 SSD sandisk for donating i guess SDM se gates 4 terabyte hard drive what's holding up the is this a permanent marker it looks like one of those yeah it looks like it looks like just like a felt marker oh sorry sorry guys it wasn't centered there maybe one of them yeah like it looks like yeah like one of them you got to shake it up and then it'll write on anything or something like that that's the weird signature marker pen things I mean it matches it black white red silver and it looks like it's holding I mean how bad is that sag I mean yeah is it to the point where not even the card beneath it can prop it up I mean sometimes when you put these aftermarket coolers on them because they put so much torque on the PCB in specific places it'll curve the PCB and kind of exaggerate the the SAG so that would be my guess as to why you put that in there plus there's an active fan on this here so and the SLI configuration since it's only a he's got two slots and then two more slots that there's there's no gap between these two cards so there's potentially with a lot of sag the potential for it to you know actually have the fan hit the the Lord card so maybe that's why it's there yeah just in fact definitely definite ding here for the ketchup and mustard cables the the bare multi color 24 pin you were clearly one of our 30% leave this I mean everything else looks very color-coordinated so that you you could get away with like it's fairly inexpensive fifteen or twenty dollar 24-pin extension and kind of clean that up a bit and I think everything else use while you're at it and then I think everything else is looking pretty nice I mean the pen what do you think about the pen is the pen it's a I mean it doesn't look terrible I've seen much worse when it comes to in regards to like props or crutches for GPUs yeah but at the other day it's still a pen it's doing your computer so there are things that exist to help you with that situation no no no it's not okay thanks Paul and Paul lose the bottle opener yeah yeah of course you should buy five of now um I yeah but the thing is like I know that they have the brackets but the bracket that goes underneath your GPU to prop it up that would interfere you would be able to do that because you have a GPU underneath it even a second GPU yeah um but there should be sort of like uh I don't know like sort of a what do you call it the hell is Hiro doing just like a crutch to go underneath your your graphics card do you know any good brands for for like and then PC tech for for that type for that type of yeah for that type them yeah stop it what's he doing here oh you're so noisy he's aggressively licking his par or something like that unless he's not as balls unusual yeah it's very chomping on his ball sack beef alright it's what's for dinner thank you late summoned for your submission thanks i I don't know if we've helped you but let's move on what's up Wiggles next with the NZXT elite case see sonic G 650 watt semi modular power supply nice districts gaming FB 350 motherboard horizon 1600 CPU a cry reg age seven CPU cooler 16 gigs of g.skill ripjaws five ddr4 3000 nice combination with horizon for gig gtx970 maybe 3.5 if you wanna amend that now just you turn 50 gig 840 Evo SSD 2 terabyte tachi 7200 black or colored cable extensions is what he's asking 1070 TI or vegas 56 as well purple obviously we're going to so he's anticipating our suggested upgrades here which obviously would have been upgrade that 970 cuz yeah that's just that that's the part in this system that's that's looking like it could use an upgrade and of course your your power supply cables go into everything else yeah are and he's asking colored for cable are colored or what was it the question colored or black extender black extensions I think for this system you either go black or white cuz you have some white accents on your motherboard and you have a white yeah you have some white on your cooler so he's also talking about up to his upgrading his graphics sorry Lord he's talking about updating the graphics card so ignore the aesthetics of the graphics card in the blue highlight here this is also that I have the same 970 by the way me too it was the last thing I bought at Newegg with my employee discount yeah and whyphy build right now oh yeah yeah but were you trying to reach any repeat I wasn't trying I'm just saying like it's a good car yeah it is so yeah super clock I must say white mm-hmm try to find any sub it stands it stands out a bit more um 1070 / TIR Vega 56 that's a really hard choice right now I mean don't get a Vega 56 if it's overpriced only get it if you can get it for around the $400 price beyond that if you can get a graphics card that's like mostly black then I'd say some white cables would look pretty clean or maybe a black and white combination or something like that alternatively if you do go all black I mean that matches with everything so you'd have a little bit more flexibility with the graphics card that you choose so I mean those are those are kind of the choices but I would say definitely figure out your graphics card upgrade first right and then base then do your tables cable extensions on that I agree that way if you happen to get say a red accent graphics card which would look fine in this system you know then you can maybe get cables to match it or something like that I think ASIS just launched their arcs Vega 56 and 64 Strix models right you can finally actually buy them now I think so they sent them to reviewers like a month or two ago yeah there's a bunch of weird BIOS issues by those drivers and drivers issues and stuff like that yeah but um next up is the proper cysts thank you sir he's been following the show and interacting and stuff for a while so thank you for sending in the rebuild hmm I helped at team an underscore 80 with a significant case in cooling upgrade an tech ba din' fans Asus am3+ motherboard T EVGA GTX 970 maybe the same one from the the previous bill 2x4 gig ddr3 memory kit in each 100 IV to creative lab lab song card and a Samsung is that case upside down or why is this an tech upside down no is it like a symmetrical front panel that you can reverse maybe these put it upside down I don't know weird did he maybe he flipped it so it can pick it open from the other side but you wouldn't want to open it anyway because it's just got a big radiator right in the front mmm looks cool but yeah it looks very ominous I like I like the white lighting I like the shadows that are being cast by your fan grills that's kind of cool oh yeah right over there that's nice interesting to see fan girls on the inside of your case yeah I'm not used to seeing that so first thing I'll say is obviously ketchup and mustard Mike the hell hole here Oh what is that new boy hero here what he's like gnawing at his paw it's it's like you keep talking okay so look for the first thing you'll say is ketchup and mustard obviously has to go find some cable extensions actually this reminds me a lot of my first build in the the Corsair 600 T I had I had the same sort of light blue heatsink motherboard Izzy 68 asus and and I had ketchup and mustard as well but I would say get some nice either light blue extensions to match all the accents in your case or just get plain black maybe a combination of the two but I have to commend you on your cable management this is a bit like this is as good as you could have possibly done in this entry-level to mid range case cable management is absolutely I mean it looks like something that you know that Paul would do or that maybe I would you know attempt to do it looks really good cable management here is great the only thing you're really lacking is a sort of color coordination getting that red and yellow out and I would say maybe spray paint that that that PCI card that you've got down there what is that so that oh it's the creative maybe creative sama-sama card or something like that who use the Sam cards in here oh that's the other that's the real question spray paint that sucker either light blue hoodoo light blue that would make it stand out and look really cool as for the fans it looks like you have some different model fans in here the ones on the front on your radiator or slightly different than the ones the case fans on the top and rear of your case and that somewhat perks my OCD but I'm not gonna knock you for it entirely I'm just gonna say if you really want to tie everything together having uniform fans throughout your build is a thing of beauty in my opinion but everything else looks fantastic man cable management is again stellar so thank you very much for that next up we've got oh wait wait okay I've got the let's try not to end the stream trying to unplug anything here okay next we've got one from Steven Steven to my PC that's a core i7 6700k point four gigahertz with the Noctua D 14 s kind of Z 107 a I'm thinking you meant z170a m5 motherboard from MSI rip just 5 16 gigs of memory and ddr4 at 3200 and we have an 850 Evo you might win for us GTX 1078 gigabyte model um very nice system I love the case fantex make some great chassis and it looks like you have some decent airflow in here 2 large 200 millimeter fan at the front got a 120 looks to be on the bottom and some exhaust at the rear curious that say I'm sort of interested or you know surprise it there's nothing going on at the top no AI OHS no additional fans I think that there'd be a bit more fans of a few more fans at the top but especially with the orientation where you have your CPU cooler with the fan pointing straight up I think maybe having a fan or two at the top of your case could just help sort of move the airflow the hot air that's coming off your CPU heatsink out of the top of your chassis personal opinion cable management looks purty ok I feel like there are some areas where it's really good some areas where could be improved for example in front of your power supply you've got just the cable looks like maybe it's part of your RGB strip looks like it's part of your RGB LED strip that is not the best place for it just because I mean you've got LEDs down there and the LEDs little the lighting is sort of casting a shadow of your RGB cable onto your power supply and it doesn't look all that great IMO so maybe I don't know rat that behind your motherboard tray if you can get some extensions if it's not long enough and you know I personally I'm just used to seeing CPU cooler towers in the more vertical orientation than horizontal it makes sense especially if you didn't want to add any fans at the top of your case circling back to that you already have what at the rear so moving your heatsink vertically would basically just point that not to a fan straight back to your case and that rear fan would kind of help you exhaust some of that hotness GPU everything looks good there I mean if you want to get some cable extensions obvious like red red and black getting some red and black sleeved extensions we'll look fantasy like this and yeah I can't tell what let's see I think that's pretty much it dude I think you're good elsewhere I spilled just do those things if you want or don't and you'll be good moving on thank you very much Steven Johnny Johnny with horizon 516 hundred and a 6 X 3 70 f gaming leather board 16 gigs of tread and z are gbgt X 1080 Strix watch out mill overclocked currently because when I overclock the CPU to 4 gigahertz the screen goes black and the system freezes requiring me to flip the power switch you have you have a 1600 you're probably likely be able to hit 4 gigahertz unless you get extremely lucky in the silicon lottery I would aim for 3.8 personally if you're lucky you might get 3.9 but don't feel too bad I can't even get 4 gigahertz on either of my 1600s 3.9 on all cores is totally fine with 1600 yeah yeah I guess I don't know maybe I have a dud because I mind wigs out sometimes a three-point I mean yeah but not all of them can do it thank you true 3/8 or 3.85 is fine too mm-hmm yeah looks like you've got some nice RGB fans oh those are the the new l-series fans from from Corsair so which basically means you spent about as much on those as you did for the rest of your system but they look really great don't don't regret it whatsoever they look phantom ulis and let's see is that a deep cool aerial yes I kept a 10 maybe yeah I believe it's deep cool captain yeah I'm not sure if 'srgb one or the one that's just black and white yeah either way it looks good RGB on the trend Z looks great I'm gonna say maybe rotate the the tubing I feel like the tubing looping together it looks a little bit better than going one up and opposite direction like that looks like they're repelling magnets or something looks a little awkward yeah together other than that the sticker on your m2 SSD is a WD that stands out you know that kind of a sort thought I believe it's a green PCB underneath that though for that SSD them it's a good SSD so nothing wrong there if you just blasted it to the whole thing yeah maybe something like that if you really wanted to mask it or invest in one of the SSD yeah yeah like the the heat sinks you can get to kind of go over them and you know give a little bit of cooling and aesthetics as well yeah but yeah overall looking looking pretty good the thing that's standing out to me just that I'd I mean I think the only good fix would be extensions to make it look much better as your plugs for the graphics card there it's a daisy chain there with a little extra loop on it you might tie those up a little bit better to just make a little bit tidier yeah but overall very nice very nice build yeah I like it well done I honestly can't look at my Google Doc for some reason because that's okay I can look at yours from now and this is an honorable mention just wanted to give a shout out to Scott Dilbeck who's also a very longtime patron of the show he's got thanks Scott looking forward to your six dollars and sixty six donation later on 7,700 KZ 270 motherboard h80 I cross fired rx4 80s with eight gigs full modular Corsair power supply in a 570 X crystal that would be the corsair case mm mid Tower um let's see alright it's beautiful I like this sort of unique but I think it's well executed you see yeah it's it's definitely some decorative traps yeah like I I tend to use lots of velcro straps for not not so much my my a oh tubing but for my cables like if I have slaves extensions or something like that I will use like two or three velcro straps per cable just because I like it nice and taut so I guess that's sort of the the same approach that you took here with your AO tubes I like um and and your and your PJs I think I think it works also because you have the same sort of velcro straps throughout it's not like you have different ones it's very uniform and you even have them on your your power connectors for your GPUs and I think that sort of ties everything together it doesn't seem like the ones on your or out of place because they're sort of visible throughout the rest of your system as well and then I mean cable management is fantastic from what I can tell maybe you used poor lighting on purpose so that I wouldn't be able to see all of the little you know imperfections but well it's great from from what I can see here so nice job nice wood well done Skylar thank you for submitting that yep that was the honorable mention by the way I think right yes yes and then we also have let's see though does it fit my PC all right okay I'm gonna try logging back into Google account and reopening up the drive dock because the Google Doc because it it timed out for some reason Oh unless it comes back right now hey Bing am i voting I see you guys's donations in super chat we will be reading those at the end of this half so keep giving us money all right let's talk about some tech news right everybody skipping case off oh no no tech case off I told her good luck okay second why isn't it slowing look at this the first page of the Google Doc I don't know it's not loading that up it's weird okay I don't all right I don't know all right all right I think we're good all right case off this is um where we take we put two different cases of similar similar pricing and and in feature set against each other and we decide at the end of our at the end of the segment which one we would we would opt for so the two cases that we have going head-to-head today are the NZXT th 700 i versus the be quite dark base 700 these are both cases that came out this quarter in this last quarter of 2017 they're both fresh off the Lots super timely super timely and they both have 700 in the name they both they do you know for some reason they make that connection yes seven heads clearly they're competitors in that sense and even via price point right cuz the H 700 is going for 200 bucks straight from NZXT and the dark bass 700 is 180 or 179 right now so only about 20 bucks off but when you're talking about a more expensive case that 20 bucks isn't really a huge difference so starting with the h7 right we've got both of these cases actually come crystal RGB ready which means that they feature tempered glass side panels and do have elements of RGB functionality built in the H 700 I has a smart hub which is like a cam powered smart device that uses machine learning to basically create custom fan curves on the fly by analyzing after a couple hours of analyzing your system parameters to give you the best fan curves possible I've tested this out does drop your temperatures a few degrees and I feel like that's one of the biggest selling points of this case and sort of NZ excuse justification one of their many justifications of why it costs $200.00 whether or not that's something for you is up to you I suppose it also has some pretty decent radiator support too 80s or 360s can go at the front or the top the only difference is that push pole is pretty much only available at the front you kind of have to resort to either push or pull at the top because of that cable management bar or the reservoir bar that sort of sticks out I feel very conflicted about the reservoir ball bar you to you - I have not taken my age 700 out of the box yet oh okay I I did the H 400 I oh yeah it's got a similar configuration here yeah on one hand the bar is really handy because it has a reservoir mount and so if your custom water cooling it's nice to have to get a dedicated spot for mounting that rez but at the same time if you're not mounting a reservoir which most people who buy this case probably won't be it kind of gets in the way where is it if you look at just the main side the just the glamour side just the white bar that sort of white bars are this big bar yeah see the a I Oh like you barely have enough clearance to fit those two fans you couldn't do push pull at the top if you okay if you had the option to so I mean it's a little bit cumbersome I don't know and let me know what you guys think but there's also no USBC on the front of this case which I think for $200 of the tail into 2017 that that should have that should have been that should been there I've been nice to have would have been very nice to have we're seeing more and more types II devices pop up and the dark bass 700 there may be 700 170 bucks you get also tempered-glass RGB I think there's more definitely more RGB it's more prominent here you get those strips going down the sides of the case the web site the web their website UI is much easier to scroll through I'll give I'll give them that they video if anyone from NZXT s like watching like website design yeah this is this is a lot easier look you have a little arrow I can just it's a little thing um so this this case does have USB see it also features Sam dampening I feel like the the shortcoming here the dark bass 700 is that it's the had kind of some limited airflow at the front even though it looks like there's tons of ventilation on either side the actual underneath the front panel you you'll see that there's smaller cutouts the internal plastic frame doesn't really allow as much breathability as it looks like on the outside which is kind of a bummer whereas the H 700 I definitely seems to have a bit more airflow from the front side that being said does have sound dampening it should be very probably better than the h7 dry in terms of acoustics it's got a reversible motherboard tray which is pretty cool you don't see many many cases be quiet like sort of one of the people who are that's a fun feature I feel like it is it's one of those things cuz like people have different desk setups and you match the number one want to have the visible part of your keys yeah you know here there and have the you know the business end where you plug everything in rationed here there and being able to flip it yeah it's very nice yep I'm actually yeah it's totally um and then we've also got a dual rail fan controller with six PWM headers that's kind of cool it's dual rail so using the controller on the front panel you can actually connect like you can control three fans independently from another three fans so if you want like you know three fans in your case to spin up a certain rpm you can have that different than the other three fans or you can have them both spin at the same rpm very flexible there's a lot of innovation in this case it's also great to build in both cases are honestly really great to build in I feel I should have also mention the H 700 I has amazing cable management behind the motherboard tray with all the cable channels does the the H 400 I also have those yes it's it's not the those channels probably channels but yeah it's got its got a configuration kind of like it's got one of these vertical spaces rather than two yeah and it's got a channel across the top as well yeah that was I found to be that nice you know way - yeah I mean you gotta kind of wedge cables in there sometimes and I was dealing with a situation where that's because it's right there mm-hmm I had a bunch of NZXT air fans as well mm-hmm so all those have two cables one for the actual fan and one for the lighting that all you have to wire over to connect to a hue plus or however you want to connect it up sure so um a lot of wires lots of lots of cable management to do I was able to get it all in there I had to kind of attack it twice it was one of those ones where like I did it all once fledged it in but then I was like I had to come back to it again and kind of redo things once I kind of knew where everything was going right but yeah I mean I was able to get it in there yeah I guess is the main point I think even with all those extra wires yeah I definitely think it's it's good for like amateur like a novice first-time builders just kind of like gives you a guideline as to where the cable should how they should flow yeah it was the velcro straps around them - yeah pretty nice very helpful so um honestly it's a tough pick band they're both built like tanks they have really good build quality they're fun to build in they have their own unique set of features so I guess because they're so close together I feel like I don't Valley I don't personally get much out of the the smart device with the machine learning thing I can make my I like I like making my own fan curves I think the smart device is very convenient for first-time builders but takes the fun out of it for me personally so it's not worth the $200 as much as for someone else I would say I would save 20 30 bucks and go with the dark base 7 that's me personally but they're both great cases I don't know what do you think thoughts I haven't had the opportunity to work with both of them but the USBC 3.1 I think functionally stands out a lot to me as well as the flippable motherboard tray yeah I mean you're definitely one one who needs it and wants it bad enough to modify your define r52 to actually put a USB to USB I didn't flip the motherboard tray in there to find him yeah I did I did yeah I did it more as a proof of concept like show you that you could add it to just like an existing case if you had the cable I was raised because honestly this is the most impractical computer of all the computers I have to add that to yeah I plug in an external USB three drives all the time to transfer massive amounts of video back and forth yeah that's my gaming computer I never transfer video onto or off of thats alright it's handy from the steam library I suppose yeah but yeah see I think I would lean towards for the feature set I would lean towards the to be quiet 700 as well nice guys go ahead and you blog chat blog chat right now blub press n for NZXT if you want the H 700 I and do b4 be quiet if you want the dark bass 707 blow it up let me see where your B's and ends give me some B's and ends all right we're gonna move on to our next second then your vanilla like mint which is news looks like I'm seeing more bees than ends it's pretty it's pretty I know a Twitter YouTube Twitter she's going crazy twitch likes the bees and YouTube's likes the ends YouTube in ends yes it's kind of fun watching them go actually I was wondering why twitch wasn't responding it's because my twitch is broken now your switches birth or it's my challenge they started getting crazy a new like doing like 30 bees at the time yeah putting some emoji and there's someone put F first faxes it's almost like it's almost like we've divided chat into two like two different into 300 games and that they all hate each other now like definitely makes us hate the animal makes the gang sign and advise your senator just one letter and and for life I'm Abby biatch way to be easy what up B we to end yeah what ends all right cool well it seems pretty evenly divided and they're both great cases so that makes sense yeah let's move on to take news thank you guys for your input quite literally um AMD AMD whats up with AMD man what's up with their graphics card Department they've been sneakily making some tweaks to their rx 560 video cards actually making them worse without telling their loyal fan base this is an article from Brad Jacques at Jesse world sharkus your kiss oh there's a whore in there or it's a silence it's a to pronounce it's not a silent it's an invisible arm or you can call him Brad choco taco shack a circus but he hates that okay I don't know if he would never do that to bread Brad Shaka's thank you very much for this article this is about AMD you guys probably heard this it's been all over the place on the hardware subreddit and stuff there are some rx5 60's that have actually been shipping with fewer compute units and streaming processors than other RX 5 60's for no apparent reason this hasn't been made publicly just a lot of the drama it been announced publicly it's kind of luck of the draw it's like you you order an RX 560 from whatever added board partner it might come with 16 compute units or it might come with 14 compute units you don't know isn't that a scary thought it makes it so exciting it might become no it doesn't makes it so like horrifying I'm not gonna get no it's it's it's like a loot crate you don't really pay for a loot crate in the typical sense you're paying out the Ashford's for video cards these days even the RX 560 you know any mean like this is a lot of money for a lot of people or you could be getting you know a thousand and 24 stream processors or 896 stream processors it just kind of depends like Paul said luck of the draw you really don't know what you're gonna get when you buy an RX 560 and I think that's wrong I think that's unfair you should know what specs your cards gonna have before you buy it so these cards it's like the price overlap isn't even that significant like there's there's there's there's the 14 Cu 896 stream processor units selling for 125 to 167 dollars and there's the 16 Cu 1,024 stream processing units selling for between 125 and 200 dollars but like and there's the same time staying on here and and that's what makes it even less ethically sound is that AMD selling slower RX v 60s from the same price there abouts as faster RX v 60s and they're not telling people they're not they have never publicly announced that some of our RX 5 60s are actually cut down versions of a full-fat RX 560 and this is uh this is actually there was a if you look at the internet archive's wayback machine july 7th was the last time that there was a screenshot of the AMD RX 560 page which actually showed all of the all of the the old original I'm sorry the full fat the full fat 16 compute unit version of the card so the cut down model release probably happened sometime after that we don't know exactly but it's just all-around shady Brad said that the RX 560 is on new egg right now seem to be pretty evenly split between the new versions and the cut-down versions are the nerfed versions if you will so just be careful guys know know the specs of the card you're getting before you get it because not even that is safe or sacred these days with companies big companies just trying to you know pull one over your eyes or whatever it is so it's kind of these are the wayback machines listed specs yeah it does say max compute units which is also kind of like what does that mean yeah it seems like just it should then it should say max stream processors because that's also know that's straight okay consistency yeah some continuity flaws here not AMD like as well as AMD's doing on the cpu front I feel like they're doing equally bad on their GPU front does it seem that way to you too it depends on what you consider bad if you not a really bad maintaining this is bad positive relations with PC gamers yeah then yeah they're not doing that great if you consider bad to be like oh they're not selling any of the graphics cards I would disagree because there's so much of their graphics carry but they don't really have much of an inventory of for graphics cards cuz they sell them all a little bit more now but ok give it give it give it a few months after they actually have decent stock of their cards yeah I mean I mean they're setting they're setting themselves up for potential future failure if they don't capture enough of the gaming market if they don't get enough people to invest in stuff like free sync monitors yeah if they have a massive amount of their graphics cards sold to minors who then in a few months decide that you know because of the changes in the cryptocurrency mining landscape that the graphics cards aren't worth it anymore so they start selling them also the market is flooded with like really low priced AMD graphics cards then you know D values their existing the stuff and they have a hard time selling that again so I mean I think yeah there's just definitely negative repercussions to to what they're doing but yeah I know we'll see see I guess I don't know I just feel like they're selling a lot of like Bega cards now but I feel like it's a lot of that has to do with the fact that you could not get an R weeks make a card when it first launched they were just very scarce and now that they're finally here you know months after launch people are buying them up left and right but that's not the same as doing a successful launch where you have a shit ton of supply and months later people are still buying the crap out of them you know what I mean like anyone can sell a product shit I'm on launch day or as soon as you have supply but it'll be interesting to see where we are a couple months down the line if you know just sort of the you know because we've been comparing a lot of the CPU rankings like on Amazon like what's the number one CPU and like rise ins been killing it over Intel and stuff curious to see what the the GPU segment is like but I guess I guess we'll say that for another time let's move on though we have a lot of other stuff to cover here we do including Qualcomm ten eval comm stepping up to the point boy oh boy they are sticking it to Intel with their Snapdragon Windows 10 convertibles this is an article from hot hardware there's been a new wave or there will be a new wave of Windows 10 devices powered by the Snapdragon 835 arm-based processors from Qualcomm course this is made possible by Microsoft support for full oh excuse me full x86 emulation in Windows 10 does not previously possible a Snapdragon processor an ARM based processor would not be able to run the Windows 10 operating system until Microsoft allowed support for this sort of thing to happen there's also no limitations on what applications for the most part that this the hardware can run so you're not limited to just the universal Windows platform apps you can actually run legacy win32 applications which means you have full pretty much full compatibility with a lot like the massive catalog of windows-based software so this is a direct competitor to Intel because it's a basically replacing the CPU it's it's a great alternative Qualcomm is estimating in devices in the ultra slim convertible segment and the category is gonna that the category is gonna be shipping in globally in 2018 that's a lot of ultra slim notebooks and stuff that are gonna be hitting the market next year projecting to hit 126 million by 2022 so it makes a lot of sense why Qualcomm would be interested in this segment of the PC market the numbers are pretty overwhelming people like ultra slim notebooks like the MacBook Air that's immensely popular you know it's competing with sales with the with the original just the standard MacBook because people want lighter thinner lighter lighter and thinner you know but you know obviously there's some downfalls about your battery life longer battery life fortunately Snapdragon 835 SOC will likely deliver the single biggest jump in battery performance that we've ever seen in this category of device users may see 20 plus hours per charge some devices topping twenty five hours that's insane I can't even imagine simulated I mean you wouldn't have to charge your laptop if you go wireless for a whole weekend pretty much if you know if you used it eight hours a day no worries that's pretty cool that's insane that's really cool also there's way less PCB required than with an Intel chip so that leaves it up to manufacturers to utilize that free space within the laptop for other things maybe there's more MDOT to storage or you know bigger badder GPUs more cooling so that you can fit faster GPUs and things like that let me cool or gummy bears gummy bears you know just emergency gummy bears snap drawer and the side of the computer right yep exactly store the company after I'm gaming for a while Mike I need some hurry bow we're gonna crack that shit it's definitely a practical practical application for for additional cabin space in your laptop and then we've also got let's see what are the other things here HP Lenovo and Asus are gonna be featuring the Qualcomm Snapdragon x16 4G LTE modems in their models hey which is gonna give us speeds of 1 gigabits per second down and provides three to seven times faster download speeds compared to average learning for dogs barking broadband connection the show is brought to you corgis barks to make it sound like all Reaver be space dogs unite dogs alright so what I was gonna say is holy shit 4G LTE baked into these ultra-thin super battery life convertibles nice that's pretty cool that means you don't need to rely on freaking Wi-Fi in order to tweet out something from your laptop which is fantastic I hate that it really is like an always-on solution always connected which is great if you're always on the go and you don't always have you know Wi-Fi at hand there was supposed to be running cooler than the Intel alternatives with lower thermals under sustained workloads Intel's not super happy about this high Intel is not super happy about this earlier earlier this year when they were celebrating the 40th year anniversary of the world's first x86 microprocessor Intel vowed to flex its legal muscle this is a quote from the article to stop the deployment of devices using x86 emulation in Windows 10 that's clearly I was a failed endeavor because Qualcomm is already on that shit you know what anything we can stick to Intel at this point honestly yeah you're like in like AMD is already handling the desktop side of the the CPU market why not Qualcomm tackle on the mobile side because it's gonna only lead to lower prices and better performance for the end user at the end of the day and I'm all for 20 20 plus hours of battery life any week so very exciting stuff next up we've got the reven the reven nyah-nyah 240 a liquid cooler which has been released this is a via hexxus i didn't really have too many notes on this because we ran short on time prepping for the show but it's supposed to be retailing for a hundred and nine USD which really isn't bad these days for a 240 millimeter AIO apologize it's also got a transparent coolant reservoir section atop the pump block the unit is factory sealed however there is an opening available on the transparent cooling block which facilitates the injection of dyes you can actually change up the dye color inside of the loop which I think it's pretty it's a fun customizable option for an AO or even supplies see my coolant dies so that you can mix the color of course of your preference to match other computer components additionally the pump I sent to be aw AP design or water above pipe design so and I quote the cooler can also be installed in any orientation without sacrificing pump power pumping power micro channels at just 0.1 one millimetres feature on the curved base plates of these coolers which are said to provide efficient heat transfer and you can see that there's two fans obviously on the on the radiator or even has specs to of its 120 millimeter cold wing fans to deliver high airflow at 25 decibels it's a pretty saturated market already but I'm not gonna knock companies for coming up with new options I think it looks pretty cool the water block looks alright the fans the fans look strikingly like Venturi's like fractal venturi air flow type fans just the blade design and stuff doesn't look like they have any rubber on the corners yeah that's that's kind of unfortunate and again it's a hundred and nine bucks so it's sort of on the mid to low end and I'm not a huge fan of the what do you call that coagulated tubing no not quite delighted but corrugated core was a quite Gilead miss deleted gesticulated mistake you lated mister accumulated the tubing looks just a little dated ribbed for her pleasure ribbed super ribbed for her pleasure but no one's really being pleased by this at the end of the day anti kink it is anti kink its anti kink short it just doesn't the tank is refillable yeah as long as you remove it from being attached to your motherboard and use this little filler thing mm-hmm and add color ink what what yeah you can you can make though you can add I think it comes with some dye comes baby bottles of RGB die blue yellow and green that can be mixed into the coolant to match your rigs color scheme that's pretty cool cool it seems like a one and done though like you'd like your if you're dripping drips of coloring into that or whatever like what do you mean I mean if you just want blue or red or yellow then do some drips and you're fine yeah I'm saying if you wanted to do like orange or some in-between color right and you're adding drops of different colors of ink and once you do that with food coloring if you're not doing the right specific combination you get to sort of a muddy brown color yeah towards black and then right there's really no turning back from there well I mean you could just drain the loop and refill it and try again possibly why not but why possibly I mean it's it's a refillable with dye will it'll stain everything a little suck all right and I don't know I'm speculating anyway so it's a possibility it's possible I'll give you that okay but moving on to our last article here I'm gonna read your can I just read your laptop Paul because oh yeah I can just go off the article here Google is gonna be pulling YouTube because my computer is not working at the moment Google is gonna be pulling YouTube's support from Amazon's fire TVs in 2018 this sort of is centered around the Amazon echo show that's their you know special device and Google and Amazon have had a weird sort of combative relationship where Amazon has not really been Google friendly they haven't really sold like the Google chromecast or Google home Google nest they haven't been selling any Google products on their website and Amazon sells pretty much anything so you know it's personal and that's not okay it's not okay man that's not okay Google it's like it's like having two best friends like Google Amazon are my two best friends online cuz they're just awesome and I use them for everything I think we need and so when your two best friends aren't lik to stand up and say that's not OK Google yeah everyone go tweet Google and Amazon put them both both in your same tweet and be like why can't we be friends why can't we be friends why can't we be friends okay so there's this sort of a struggle that's the second seeing people in chat say that I just activated their ghost is intentional thank you okay Google say search gay porn and pupils I have so much power I do not apologize in advance okay do not pass go do not collect ecology alright um so yeah Amazon actually found a way to find to make YouTube run on the echo show but they somehow did it unbeknownst to Google or without their go ahead oh so Google freaked out was like hey you guys did NASA's permission and you're also providing sort of a shitty experience apparently they weren't happy with the implementation that Amazon used to integrate YouTube into the echo show and they were saying that that violates their Terms of Service so there's this all this like they're just like you know measuring cocks at this point right there - tech giant's obviously and their butting heads and and Google I think wants to work with Amazon but Amazon seems very Amazon seems like the reluctant one obviously we don't know for sure but that's what it seems like on the surface and so because of that the sort of sketchy version of YouTube that's currently available in the echo show is going to be cancelled and prohibited starting January 1st to 2018 so if you have an echo show and you're watching videos on YouTube with it prepare to have that stopped it's it's it's gonna be gone pretty soon so um yeah that's those are pretty much all the articles that I have that's pretty much my half of the show we do have some Johnson shout outs free all who happen to pick up something merchandise wise from either of our stores I can go ahead and read off mine first while Paul does things we've got 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level that's not looking more specifically at the cut at that those exact boards or not but in your choice of z3 70 versus x3 70 right now if all you're doing is gaming z3 70 if you're gaming and doing other stuff with your cpu gave me an streaming video editing go rise a nation any think that thing then go for eyes it that's my recommendation agreed thank you Scott Dilbeck six dollars in 66 cents Cheers favorite Elder Scrolls or Fallout title some somehow I missed New Vegas and it's blowing my effing mind I have not played well i played skyrim i played the elder scrolls skyrim and I enjoyed it but it just it didn't keep my interest he didn't hold my interest for very long I got bored of it I know call me crucify me or whatever and I have never played another I've never played a Fallout game crucified me twice yeah you've chosen to syriza's that I've dabbled with but not played extensively I have also played a little bit of Skyrim and I've played a little bit of fallout I played New 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smith's with the fifty Norwegian kroner bribes me Paul I would buy your key caps but I have Logitech Romer G keyboard you room he's got he's got a Logitech Cal you have a chance to get my money so here saying make a cute app that is compatible with little Logitech's then it uses the little cross caps the the yep chariot us will teach them it doesn't crust him of the which one Logitech's um the rubber G it's a different key cap tape yeah Tom's I'm sorry about that based on the sales of the cherry version I'll see if I want to expand that for for the Logitech Palomino kid with the $10 donation in no comment thank you Palomino kid you're wonderful MB 67 aka lenticular $15 happy holidays talent Paul happy holidays ma'am right back at ya Cheers and indeed David Chao leave a child $5 if I had a bow and arrow and the pointed at your knee and force you to choose between Imperial or stone Crocs which would you choose and why what would the widow what the fuck would you choose PO anyway well don't you tell me give me your watch on an imperial so I can pure like the Imperials like the metric system and start well versus oh and P realises Stormcloaks what I know Imperial troopers but Stormcloaks is that not even too nerdy for us I don't know it's it's it's probably a game that we don't I'm gonna say Imperials because I'm it's somewhat vaguely familiar and I have no idea what's storm Clark's storm storm course Karen oh okay Skyrim yes Tom or da cereal probably if you played Skyrim for more than five minutes you probably you probably realize this so yeah alright Stormcloak seems to be the the right answer according to Google Google yeah sorry we couldn't shed more light on that need to play more Skyrim clearly I should have maybe we'll have plenty of time on Saturday we should start Skyrim from the beginning the game just twelve hours yeah nothing but Skyrim can easily beat it in 12 hours as long as we get the slim jim mod where all the dragons turn into the slim jim guy oh yeah when he flies right oh yeah breeds much fire on all the children we should do yeah alright Anubis mark $8 Paul try official appeal tolls with omega 3 for hero's itch Thank You Anubis I am not sure what's going on with Hiro this evening tripping he's he's going after one of his paws and it's not it wasn't it wasn't good but my wife's here now and she's looking after him thank you though for your suggestion Thank You Man we justin fichelson we will give him some of that yeah Loret endo $5 Kylie do you ever get around to trying the sambal I sent some ball some ball some ball I don't know what what that is I if you sent it recently I have not checked my p.o box in a few weeks like two three weeks so it's possible that it's still whatever the sambal is it might still be chill in there but I'll get around to it I always do I feel like that's like we open that and it was like or we tried it or we opened it and we didn't actually try it whatever it was it was a drink or a food let's see what have you gotten recently we got beer we got lots of beer you trying to the beer was it the chilli sauce the Sun Bowl oh oh the chilli sauce I have not tried the judge says it's the chilli sauce okay I have not tried that yet it is actually still in the studio right next to the whiskey which I've been drinking daily but we have not tried the Sun Bowl yet why if he sauce hasn't cracked it open because I don't think it's it's vegetarian or vegan I think it has like fish sauce or something in it but I'll bring it home I'll make a point to bring it home every time I it's funny cuz every time I pour the whiskey I look at the Sun Bowl let me go - it looks good it looks really good I'm a huge sucker for like all things chilli and spicy so I will be trying it trust me I mean I am the guy to send that to I will I will definitely eat it up soon enough but there are a bunch more comments so we should try to get to them quick all right so I'm rambling this okay what are we had destinations anonymous uh yes I've always loved the show guys I have a request Paul turn your soundboard up to full demon mode once that's done Kyle should bust out his number one best asian voice oh that would be scary let's do that on the live stream if we have time yeah the live stream or the oh the gaming stream thank you very much destinations Dave redick's or Fredrickson five dollars you guys are awesome keep up the great work thank you very much they appreciate it Zizi Hardy ten dollars Australia's salute salute salute to you yeah nicolai are sinners much of that five argentinian hi guys what should I upgrade to I have an asus rog be 350 r5 1600 and hyper to t4 cooler 512 gigs 960 pro SSD 16 gigs of g.skill 3200 to msi vegas 64 and crossfire damn cool don't look great at all upgrade your CPU your hyper tooth for cooler sucks I mean an r5 1600 with to Vega 64 's upgrade your CPU yeah you can go to 1,700 1,700 X or 18 yeah and I've created cooler and those everything else is good yeah coast of Harambee if I am GBP estimated difference in temp and for estimated difference in temperature on a CPU only loop from a single 364 360 rad to a dual 360 rad really hot core i7 68 50k I got 24.7 that needs better cooling I can't tell you because I haven't tested that directly myself I would say I don't know 5 to 15% anywhere within that range yeah that's a very specific like setup and difference in in in configuration that you're talking about yep I mean you're adding a lot of additional cooling by adding a completely additional 360 rats I would expect it to significantly reduce the liquid temperature you know maybe 10 degrees but you're never gonna know unless you actually test it out in benchmarking yeah a be comparison do it and then it wiII stay so we got Ian jaesik five dollars if I have a 6700 K and I can get a 7700 K for 192 bucks should I buy it and try to sell my old 6700 K would it be worthwhile even if I break even in no at the same clock speeds of 6700 K and the 77 HK are exactly the same chip so unless here's 6700 K over clocks like a dog and he can't get much frequency out of it you're really not gonna get much performance boost out of a 77 700 K maybe you'll be able to run it in one or two hundred megahertz faster again it's luck of the draw yeah you might even have a sixty Center 700 K that overclocks really well and a 77 under K that doesn't reflect really well when 6700 K does better yeah and so I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't bother with that particular upgrade yeah next we've got rod 9 0 to 65 this is my father and locked oh hi rod this is Rodney 20 bucks you stop giving me money father but thank you I was going to get a Shakey's large pepperoni and sausage pieces tonight it sounds pretty typical that sounds good it's so good but I didn't have but I didn't so I have an extra 20 bucks Kyle and Heather love Shakey's Pizza that is true although Heather eats although my wife would not eat anything on it other than dad and the sauce now that she's vegan so she like she can't have cheese the the point is is that she can't have any food that tastes good that's amazing look the point is is that I get to eat all of it if it brings enjoyment when you put it in your mouth it's vegan not it's not vegan oh yeah yeah yes but thank you very much Riley appreciate so Jojo boy 26 $5 hey I'm a new pc builder and I still haven't actually built a PC yet but thanks to bit would I know how to build one all right sweet you're welcome Jojo sure you watch the tutorial video and had no problems with that dingo on my $45 do you guys play platinum games like Bayonetta Metal Gear Rising near automata vanquish other action games like Devil May Cry I've never played any of those games not really everything like is really good this year though if that's the same game I'm thinking about my friend swears by Devil May Cry I've heard that's really fun yeah but I haven't haven't tried many of those that you've suggested dingo I'm at 40 I'm sorry yeah Gigi B's $13 37 cents to see what you did there as rock a be 350 ITX won't pick up mouse and keyboard when I try to install windows 7 tried ps2 adapter for Mouse no good hooked up sshd to personal rig and install the success but I TX can't identify boot drive BOTS can't identify the boot drive make sure that identified a good choice to it after hmm make sure that means the way is phrased as confusing cuz he's talking about an ass Rock motherboard but then he says hooked up SSD the personal rig does that mean a completely different system and install was a success it's it's hurt yeah yes his personal rig was able to identify the sshd but his asrock ITX can't identify as a boot drive perhaps that's what I'm thinking I it sounds like you have a faulty motherboard honestly because Windows 7 like if you can't even are your mouse and keyboard recognized in the BIOS yeah that's a good then indicator yeah but you might potentially faulty motherboard yeah would be my Heather hey it's my wife wife you sauce $5 no dad Shakey's is your favorite pizza it is his favorite pizza but you know what I'm a Shakey's fan too so I'm just gonna whip that's why I like the Mojo potatoes yep thank you very much honey I'll be sure to pay you back we'll have a nice dinner at McDonald's or something okay cool five dollars after you review Kyle I got a dark base 700 and building a 1700 X and 1080i hoping to squeeze a 240 and a 360 radiator in it thanks for what you do that sounds like a fantastic idea yeah best of luck to you and appreciate all the support Brian Webb five dollars and 55 cents I need my computer McDaniel after my grandfather Dan who died in January he always wanted to build a computer with me but we never got the chance ah that's too bad honestly um I'm sorry about that Brian that's like iMeet but also kind of sad yeah but but I'm glad you were able to build your system yeah Cheers and in his memory used to your grandfather I don't have anything to drink I have a grandfather to I have one my sip but I'll choose whatever heir Cheers that's fine Tyra that man um Fred grant 25 bucks here you go what 34 inch curved monitor D recommend not price point best one I mean I think your options are pretty much the x34 predator from a sir and the PG I mean whatever from a soos is theirs there's a lot more 34 inch curved monitors out there if you're looking specifically at sales specifically looking at 21 by 9 and gsync then yeah predator exit e4 is a good option there's the X 35 now as well though there's also quite a few options that are cheaper if you don't need cheese sync that you can get for like 500 600 bucks yeah a lot of you a lot of them use the same panel like the Reynolds the same that's just a different housing around it and maybe it may or may not have the G sink yeah so yeah Fred I don't think we can give you a straight up here's exactly what you should get option yeah they're all something different in their own way but but they're all good but if you're dedicated to getting to gsync then the x34 and our experience we've had has been great a good experience with and it's since it's been out for a little while now you might be able to get for a little bit a little bit cheaper than it was originally yeah Oh Martindale five dollars I got my pixel two a couple days ago and it takes excuse me it takes a full minute for it to be recognized by Windows over USB tried every port and three different cables I have not getting run into that issue with my pixel two once you turn on the USB debugging mode within your your phone it should connect pretty quickly with like a USBC cable so I'm not exactly sure what's going on there you might just have a slow system maybe make sure that there are no background processes running that don't need to be but I can't really give you much more than that unless I have a closer look at your system but thank you very much done blessed for the donation Omar all right next we've got Bryce Williams way forward for the five bucks please help I've tried to find it but how do I get my PC and Xbox to sound into the same headset y'all gave me all the PC knowledge I have today umm how do you get your PC and Xbox one sound into the into a single headset umm I don't have an Xbox you have an Xbox Paul have you ever try to type both the sound of your xbox and your PC into a single set of headphones no yeah I'm not sure but it honestly seems like a really easy Google search though so I would I would look to Google because Google knows more than we do I'm sorry we don't have more intramodal than that Bryce you need you need a mixer you need something that you can connect both devices to that you can connect the single vase oh yeah what people in chat are saying same thing did it get a mixer different solutions for that some that are more advanced and expensive than others but since we haven't done it ourselves yeah we don't have any exact hey do this solution but chat is blowing up right now with some options yeah reach it they know more than we do yes Pierre Danny Lou thank you very much sir Danny Lou for the five Canadians would my Corsair 120 HD RGB fans work on ddr3 asus be 85 plus motherboard why would they not they will definitely work quoth the I love their GB would work I mean the standard RGB plug mm-hmm are they addressable I think those are just oh those actually might be addressable go do that one HDS but if that was the case they'd have to use the Corsair that some controller right yeah just use the sorcerer link or whatever so yeah yeah quoth the oboe $5 building my first PC thank you for being awesome my dad is an IT and has built many computers computers but it's much easier to watch too attractive now it's uh-huh yeah that's very kind of you yeah yep yep you got it we are sexy as hell James Brule for the 10 bucks thank you guys for the awesome videos I just finished my PC build thanks to you guys keep it up my question is if I bought the ammo would you all come to South Texas for some explosions I was literally just in Texas where there were many explosions around me so I'm all explosion doubt at the moment but if the opportunity of her arises I'll be sure to look into look into that offer I agree thank you very much James yet yep gaming $10 built my first gaming PC because your of your awesome content I started my own channel because of you guys yeah yet gaming sweet good luck to you on your new on your new channel yet and it's probably the best thing we've ever seen Congrats on building your first gaming PC that too Jim our bar our book our markets our market all right 250 PHP very close to PC I believe that's a Philippine Peso though okay yeah okay sure well we'll call it that hi guys i have a corsair 6 extreme EA TX motherboard and a 360 by 60 millimeter radiator i'm having a hard time picking a case that would fit it I don't want to do a full ATX case I just want a mid Tower um honestly yes Philippine Peso both okay cool oh you know your Philippine currency I've been to the Philippines multiple times um honestly there's a lot of mid-tower cases out there that are sort of like oversized mid towers I'd even say like the some of the ones that we talked about today like the H 700 I and the dark base 700 those are pretty hefty mid towers that might be able to fit what you're looking for 360 by 60 I think I think either of those could could fit it either at the front of the top no problem so give those a look there's a bunch of other options out there - Ryan Blackwell $5 Kyle please Arno now Kyle please explain why a Norris a Norris water block won't fit strict for my friend David it's because it's freaking David why the fuck would anything work for David why an amorous water block won't fit strix because it's closed so no I can explain this so water blocks remain specifically to fit on top of a graphics card and the graphics card the significant then the important part of the graphics card is the PCB the actual circuit boards it's printed and it's laid out and there's a GPU in the middle and this probably some memory around there and there's some power delivery and everything so when you're talking about two different graphics cards from two different vendors there might be the reference design the original design and a lot of different vendors will use that original design in which case a water block would be compatible with all those original designs a lot of vendors make their own custom designs for that PCB and they might move stuff around or whatever so that's why a water block specifically made for instance for an Oris GTX 10 atti might fit a certain way on top of the GPU and where the memory is and where the power delivery is but the Asus GTX 10 atti that's specifically is that that they designed how they wanted to might have things in slightly different locations so that's why they're not compatible good is that better myself Paul very well said I will put next time we've got one from Jackson 954 the 6.66 Canadians build my first PC thanks to you guys but I should but should I upgrade my cooler master master master box light five later due to restricted air flow 8700 k GT X 1080 16 gigabytes of ddr4 would have been nice to know what case you're coming from to be honest but if you should I upgrade my masked Knight cooler master master box that's what he was upgrading to if you want an upgradable case the cooler master master series and the various flavors it comes in is a good option there because they have lots of different add-ons and front panels and top panels and radiator brackets and all that kind of stuff that you can add on so if you're talking about upgrading due to restricted air flow then potentially yes I mean you're talking about a standard ATX case so you might be able to remove a front panel and add more fans or something like that so yeah yeah I would say yes yeah Jackson you should upgrade yeah this your airflow then do it Arthur six five dollars I have a 1080i but I don't know what monitor to get should I go for a 2560 by 1440 60 my 9 panel or 2560 by 1080 ultra wide both are 144 Hertz IPS between those I go for the 2560 by 1440 me 220 v 60 by 1080 it's just it's it's too scrunched yeah there's a resolution is a little too low for for the white lights I agree if you're going on tour y dylai like 34 40 by 1440 for the resolution real estate we'll go we'll go longer I think for the first one Fred Brandt $25 thank you very much Thank You Fred Kyle here's another 25 for golfing lessons nice no yes I watched the video and laughed yes I'm a terrible mini golfer and very regular golfer yeah it was a vlog that we posted recently Waikiki sauce kicked my ass and I will definitely use that money for for golfing lesson soon thank you very much ready Geoffrey bishop $5 the apparition of these faces in the crowd pedals on a wet black bow what it's poetic so deep so deep I have no idea what the fuck it means but that is the last thank you very Geoffrey you weren't Geoffrey that is the last donation so that is gonna sum up this half of the show don't go anywhere guys there's gonna be a part two on Paul's channel if you're watching this on youtube right now live go ahead and head over to the link in the description below you can go to youtube.com slash Paul's hardware to get there it's gonna be a fantastic half of the show thank you guys so much for everything and if you guys are watching this after the fact or even live go ahead and feel free to do some time stamps in the comments all pin your comment whoever has the best time stamps and I will thank you a thousand times over because I'm too lazy to do it myself that's pretty much it bye guys bye
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