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one one and a half to one and okay why threaten their smoothest intro ever welcome guys it's awesome hardware episode 136 I think yeah at this point once you get to a hundred you like it so it all blends together three times a baker's dozen wait a baker's dozen is thirteen it's 10/10 Baker's does half a dozen did you say three baker's dozens yeah that'd be thirty which is known as thanks for being here guys yay um we're happy to do the show today yeah we're good it's good to be here we're glad that you're here this is a live tech news show loosely appalled and I do every single Tuesday at 5:30 p.m. Pacific time right here on twitch.tv slash awesome hardware we also stream live to YouTube's actually we split it up into two halves on the youtubes today we're streaming to my channel first all right this is your channel there's my side side a and then after about an hour or so we'll switch over to Paul's channel you can go ahead and check that out in the link in the description if you're 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one that looks exactly like yours has a leg up Oh able to do them yeah it's like ever so slightly bitter that would weaken the overall structural rigidity I mean there's a lever it's just a lever versus a bottle cap right what does they need to be so what think you of all people would want all the tools possible for opening bottles yes this is true you know it was a good point you don't want to don't want to cheap out in that I also see the value of name labels these days yeah limited space speaking of which I should be this more being ooh we do need more like the way you think um I don't know what you can do well I'm gone I can I can definitely do some stuff Paul I'm great bullshitting the stream thank you very much bazinga from the $10 donation you bring up a great point anyone who would like to donate through YouTube super chat is more than welcome to you will be reading all the messages you attach develop to those donations at the end of each half of the show so rest assured even though we don't call out during the show when you when you make the donation we will you will be heard at the end thank you very much in advance for anyone who would like to show us some love in that way oh god I could you know as soon as you did that and I realized what model it was for some reason I immediately heard the jaws theme song in my head that is the very same bottle will not the exact bottle but the same type of beer and everything Chimay Grande I suppose that caused all hell to break loose into my open this momentarily great you will open that momentarily I will help you drink it only once you've uncorked it I'll be very careful with it we should start sharing these with the audience though that's what yeah absolutely so our first good point Paul our first topic or a first segment I should say is ask the audience where we ask you guys a few questions and Paul and I sorta have to gauge or guess what your answers are gonna be or pletely it's basically and we postulates and we're given sort of a quiz to test how well we know you as our I mean technically you guys know we've learned a bit about us we should know a lot about you too so they're an intimate things about the absolutely that's what the segment is designed for this so our first question for you guys these are you know answer honestly if possible I know it's hard to ask the internet that these days but if you need it if you need it imagine in a hypothetical situation that you're gaming PC or whatever gaming system you're you're on currently died completely died and you needed a new gaming system in 2018 what would you do how would you respond because things are crazy right now things yourself DRAM GPUs are so expensive so a couple options here first one is bite the bullet and pay out the ass for that GPU and DRAM I need my games man mei-mei name announced you're right you're right I wrote it but I can't pronounce it or you cry in a corner and put all gaming on the hold if you dare because no way in hell are you paying those for those prices no way take the path you citizen yep or you could buy a console that admittedly is reasonably priced and then you go crying 1/4 path of the coward the coward yes so I'm quite quite quite a great list of options you have there yeah plenty of it the illusion of choice is stronger so go ahead and blow that up answer honestly everyone let us know how you feel you already covered YouTube and twitch you're on it I posted twitch and cell-cell by the way that sells spider is also a haste by inspired long time no see spider I thought you were dead I'm glad you're not and thank you can't kill seeing him here that's that's that's true especially not his biggest fan right okay so thank you both Sal in spite of being here and posting those links because I'm slow let's see how do we usually do this do we usually just go on to the next one what will argue to preview every of the next one yeah alright the preview the next one next question let's pick one think about the next question is how has Intel overall handled this whole meltdown and Spectre debacle so far this is a very fix big season o fix sorry debacle I mean debacle fix there's somewhat interchanging depending on so I want to hear your guys's honest thoughts and opinions on this they're doing the best they can way to go and tell keep it up keep on giving us those faulty patches or complete and utter garbage to quote linus torvalds name for volunteers / vaults we'll be talking about him in his response later don't let that influence you on this on his question though or AMD user here so well they don't care well that you shouldn't be doing this if you're talking about melt them and inspecting this is a good point AMD is definitely still susceptible this is a good point I added I actually added the specter and later cuz I was only gonna address meltdown I forgot to change that aah-aah-aah I'll be it I feel like even with Specter AMD users aren't quite in the hole as much as a lot of Intel users don't do but I guess I guess that remains to be seen no it's weird seeing that the checkboxes on strawpoll appear later um just happen I know look what's going on with the stream is it broken okay so guys go ahead and answer those as well let's let's move back to our first question though and try to figure out what you guys are feeling when it came to when it comes to buying a new gaming system in 2018 if you were forced to respond in some way to this immediate need what do you think our audience would do poll I'm gonna say option the second the second option here which is because you know I can't spend money you don't have you got to be fiscally responsible true do I want to go getting a bunch of credit card debt or something $1500 gtx 1070 yeah when the price may well drop back to normal anytime anytime or you ever or never break whatever you know that's a possibility too but still you know you just you know you can yeah you just you're not gonna let them do that to you I think it's what it comes down to yeah so that's why action B is option B cuz by console I mean that's and that's that would be my pick out of the three here if you've already picked the second I would I would have pick I probably would have picked the second one to it but I think the third one is probably and go for option three I mean because then you're spending two to four no probably three to five hundred dollars as opposed to but two thousand dollars now for like a mid-range system yeah well I mean it all depends on what GPU you're willing to pay for it yeah it sucks because there used to be some low-end options and some high-end options that you could buy at at least MSRP right and now you can't even really do that can you by the way I don't even know this it's probably a stupid question but can you use keyboard and mouse for the console exam it has USB ports there the games are I know there's something with that but yeah I know there's at least a product that's an add-on that you can do it with and I'm not sure about native support maybe some games are supported maybe a small list yeah yeah but yeah it's but it's not the game the problem that I went from if I recall correctly from reading about it is that the game is still looking at it it's still expecting a choice you know like a joystick input yeah from a from the controller so you can have a mouse but the mouse movement is just simulated simulating the joystick Oh going so I guess it's really weird and not natural Terra's aiming like like yeah so interesting so there you go huh okay well you know you know where our votes lie folks let's see what your yours do okay here's the results as reps you were right right Wow actually more people would would bite the bullet and pay the crazy prices and buy a consulate look 34% of people have are just willing to just pay money wow this is we shouldn't let I hope no one from the industry is watching this because they're like wow people will pay whatever whatever price we're willing to sell it for keep the prices where they are in fact raise a more be richer and more powerful than ever oh my goodness well it's good to know where you guys stand yeah um looks like yeah looks like you know everyone has their breaking point and I think this is it for a lot of us you're not gonna pay $800 $700 for a gtx 1070 yeah that you could have gotten for literally half the price when it first launched or like a month and a half ago yeah like gosh anyone who's like even though they're the Black Friday prices aren't that great I'll wait I'll hold out and damn you're probably regretting that decision right about now okay hey all right let's let's you know there's always a bright side right there's always a silver lining often when one buys computer hardware there's this like immediate letdown afterwards because something newer and faster comes out that's cheaper right thank you you know you just got the new risin and the risin to comes out or whatever that kind of thing there here's a situation where that doesn't happen yeah maybe somebody just bought a GTX 1070 a month ago and now like hey this this is now more valuable than when I first bought it yeah doesn't doesn't usually happen that's true computer hardware amen it's probably probably very select few people who are like hey yeah yeah let's take there's one final question yes this is a very simple straightforward question is I want to know we both want to know are you guys watching this currently on YouTube twitch or both and we're not we're not allowed to include it forth option there just like neither but but if they're gonna answer the straw poll now they're just watching us in person windows that one looks pretty covered up but could be some webcams that's just creepy and I'm a little creeped out cuz you guys you guys would do something like that Tim all right don't look at the we can't look at the I can't look at how many people are watching that's true on YouTube although although it just hit one 337 on YouTube that's pretty that's pretty awesome but at the same time we don't know how many people are watching us on Twitch currently have an open the tab we've had the chat open pop out so let's move let's head back let's move back to our our second question and try to figure that out people's opinions your guys thoughts on how Intel's been handling the whole meltdown and specter fix so far either good bad or you don't care I guess we'll just you will use the AMD one even though it's not fully accurate because as Paul mentioned I did include Spector there we'll just consider that as like the doesn't really I don't really have an indifferent well use that as the indifferent option so I'll go first this time since Paul at first last time yeah and I'm gonna say there's been so much reporting on Intel messing things up and not handling this smoothly that I think it's probably the common consensus now that their response has been complete noted garbage and this is a total train wreck Intel how could you do this to us it's a bold choice not only bold choice not only did you score slightly unexpected I had to go with my gut so I I will go with the AMD user here so so shrug okay because I think they're doing the best they can way to go Intel is probably not gonna fare too well as an option here so I'm aiming for second place okay let's take a look here if I can get my silver medal there we go Wow okay look at that 35 % AMD users yep I bet that's a growing number for various reasons this one being yeah maybes part part of it yeah their their response really hasn't been all that great we're gonna get more into that a little bit right you have something to talk about on the air yes yes I think that's pretty expected yeah it seems like they have been focusing more on like choosing the right the the very carefully chosen words that they can say to talk about it that makes it seem like less of a crisis or an issue that it actually is right but kind of downplaying the issue yeah right this versus being like wow this is a problem we're gonna do everything possible we can to fix things and make things right right like you know that's yes I think that's what people are looking for and that's not what they're here yep but uh we'll talk more about that in a minute yep finally are you watching us how aren't you watching a twitch or porno I mean both we're not on Poron don't even look don't even try looking don't even type in our names or anything like that when you won't you promise you won't find us so I don't lose viewers too part of else I mean problem alright you can go for this next one Paul and bear in mind people and Paul that for every wrong answer we get we have to take a large swig of whatever beers in our cup all right now neither of us have beers I know at the end of at the end of at the final end of the segment all of the all the punishments will be carry out rest assured we'll be okay okay something look forward to yep no baby oil no baby I'm gonna say I'm gonna sit Emma choose the neutral option and why not both because maybe people dude I mean unless you're on a data unless your data capture something then that makes less sense but maybe people are watching us streaming both and then you can switch between the chats and stuff yeah that's there's so many benefits that I wonder if anyone watches this on both at the same time what the stream is just playing it slightly different delays just we're just talking over each other just like a really bad I go I wonder if someone watches both at the same time but thinks then the audio is actually like the audio from Pink Floyd the wall and it syncs up kind of you know kind of syncs up yeah yeah like how it syncs up with The Wizard of Oz yeah if you played The Wizard of Oz yeah especially when you're like tripping on master or something as a friend once told me this is ksham a grand reserve hail Jame is a fantastic beer that's brewed by Travis monks it doesn't try to kill you in in Norway know where I saw some monks when I was a diesel yesterday in Austin Texas I want one the cute father Theodore from the abbey hallowed be thy name from the Abbey yeah from the Downton Abbey Abbey Abbey is a bunch of looks like a nun nun hangout spot right hmm there's a bee where a bunch of nuns hang out is that what unhappy is down Downton Abbey down down Neffe that's its TV show yeah I know I that's that's about as much as I know about Abby's is that there was once a TV show that had the word in its name hey I gotta get this open carefully slowly yes what's your choice here is Twitter YouTube that's the other reason why I told you and to force you to choose what I know now I know that's why I'm having difficulty here I'm gonna say YouTube though PTSD every time a nice the kicker though I was Vegas and back oh that's the woman you brought to Vegas nice has not always kept it okay I feel like had we stayed had I stayed in the same hotel as you you would not have come back home from Vegas with so much bigger problem I would have helped you destroy I really didn't all that there was not that much drinking for this particular job I failed you see next year we have to stay at the same hotel yeah that definitely needs to happen I just think the MGM was almost fully booked by the time I finally got around to booking honestly it wasn't it wasn't really worth it I thought it was somewhat convenient but did you take the tram to the convention center much I never even went to the convention centers yeah yeah I went there once to meet up with gamers Nexus and I was there for about an hour then I went back to the hotel yes that was the only time I went to the show for and I'm trying just distribute this evenly you're very challenging mm-hmm it better be matched to the to the millimeter it's pretty close it is I think that is within millimeter distance millimeter height milliliter milliliter yeah okay sure all right we got beer okay let's let's take a look I said YouTube because you know I started on YouTube and I guess I there's some bias there but I love you both out which I love you don't hate me all right let's see what the results are twig master-race of dominates oh my god Wow and no no one watching them both apparently I had absolutely the wrong response to Twitter I have to see though which kind of big this is interesting coming up big ten because it's impressive actually it doesn't even show that we're streaming here okay it's weird though because we have eight hundred and eighty two people watching us on Twitch right now and 1,400 people almost doubling almost 1500 people watching us on YouTube yeah the twitch is just completely dominating the the polls so maybe maybe YouTube's just lazy though YouTube viewers got to step it up I see voting voting it is important people your vote counts and now it's so important and now you lost this very important political it's like one that's more well over a third of the twitch viewers went and voted too and that's not even counting the people's - I mean there it deserve people there too so I'm impressed all around Mitch I'm gonna drink because it's wrong you drink tubes too large gulps and I'll have one for the one I got wrong it's still good oh it's delicious right oh it's so good it almost has like a grape flavor like a grape aftertaste which I like grape you say and you can see all the little bits a little bit the floating bits yeah the flowing bits that's where the flavor comes from mm-hmm this is also 9% so something to that's something to keep in mind there absolutely all right thank you very much for singing with us for ask the audience that will conclude that segment good job everybody Gil did a great job answering polls and stuff but next up we get to move on to pit my PC everything again interacting with you guys a bit to see how just not terrible you guys are at PC building yep Paul and I will point out your every flaw tell you how you screwed up in your life's a mess but youtube links aren't working for the straw poll that's what they said okay yeah whatever what's done is done I'm sure I'm sure there'll be a recount you know once it's theirs maybe maybe cell is like a closet twitch master race and he gave them broken links to he gave broken links to youtube so that they couldn't vote on the poll which is why twitch one that would suggest that cell is like some shadowy figure behind the scenes pulling the strings in ways that people couldn't possibly understand in order to manipulate their very opinions of things his level of knowledge and power does intimidate me everyone everyone be be on your best behavior himself he will you'll destroy you he will rip you a new asshole with his penis he's a tender lover [Laughter] all right Wyatt why why Pelle why all right Wyatt yeah maybe 700 K the gtx 1080i them both of those things are worth a lot yeah especially the TI a Maximus Hero 10 Wi-Fi X 62 frakkin g.skill 16 gigs Drakken love that case okay yeah sorry I had a birthday give me a minute all right um what I didn't realize that they made the pro-am in white did you then the interior did he paint that what did he paint that interior the nd pro-am doesn't have a special edition oh it's a special edition yes Wow but that looks beautiful I love it I haven't seen that one I missed it somehow but um looks like you've got really good cable management you know it's good when really the only cables that stand out to you at first glance are the ATX and PCIe yeah everything else has tucked away beautifully granted the empty program also has great cable management for that but you've utilized every every grommet and cut out appropriately love those RGB fans those l-series fans from Corsair must have costed you more than more than the case nice ISA van egative space with the framing of the picture that dude yep yeah so very very very clean have you spotted it yet Paul spotted putting my spotting have you spotted it yet oh oh that's an awesome was the best case ever there's a there's awesome hardware and bit with logos on the say there are oh my gosh right look at that yeah that's super awesome yes yeah we should see more of us that's the best you guys should do that more nice makes me happy this is the best build that's ever I know I don't think we've ever seen a more glorious system here unfit my pc I was gonna say some cable extensions mighta top things off but it's like no take it back no it's this it's an ideal build don't change a thing yep yep perfect build we shouldn't even talk about the rest of the builds no I don't wish everything might be seen you're all terrible compared to whites but then well then sir yep now every similar to pander con Brian Brian Beauchamp Brad super tower he calls it Kevin will take core w200 the super mikro x10 sra and until Xeon e3 1620 b3 at 3.5 gigahertz three two gigs of Super Micro ECC memory and we've got an AMD risin 1700 x4 gigahertz MSI x3 7000 tinium Zin it is this a doesn't does not compute wait what oh it's it's a it's a flip system there's a dual sister like the two systems one on either side oh okay actually so many ex-pirate okay okay alright this is it this is a business business up front party in the back is what I want to say early yeah so on one side of this case is this a case labs case it's got wheels so it might be there's the core w200 is that that's the Thermaltake case right yeah yeah thermaltake case yeah that's what it is it's one of the Thermaltake cases that yes sorry looks very skip that it's a very nice liquid-cooled system going on here interesting what's a mullet PC mullet is per business up front party in the back ah that's what ya got ya matter who's the boo boo no boo foo there's an acronym for that I was forgetting never mind all right so whatever what do we have to say here okay let's look at the the nice side first looking at the nice clean sight okay looks like you've got some ptg chewing in here yeah some hard line bends that you know are functional yeah they're not they're not bad overall alright they're not like they're not like wow it looks super amazingly clean the main thing we're time talking about here is gonna be just your angles yeah you have one very distinct angle from the tube sorry when I mouse over it it's it's doing that I know I hate them so much but I think nothing Paul's right parallelism is your friend when it comes to tubing to bending yeah and the more parallel or perpendicular even that your tubes look that I think overall the cleaner looks yeah so or if you have an angle try to repeat that angle with some other build so that it becomes a theme yeah your little your little loop that is right over here going between the two graphics cards feels a little awkward to me there's other ways of doing that I mean I can I can see that like adding additional tubing because you know sometimes it's just like hey I'm doing a liquid-cooled bill and I don't want to just do a direct connection from one gene bank to another yeah add a bit of flair or something like that sure I just I don't know it's that's cuz it's going off to the side like I don't know yeah it does seem it's it's not exactly it's not exactly there for me yeah I I could see you know going through here the next time you're you're gonna flush the system and clean it out and you know maybe maybe retry on a couple bends just to see what you could do that but yeah that's just being picky overall really nice awesome looking build their ends I mean I like that you've got a super microserver board with the xeon build on the on the flip side of it and over there it just looks horrible with just cables everywhere and you're like you don't care and it's like it doesn't matter cuz it's like no one no one sees that there knows it's there because really all they see is the is the pretty sight it's pretty sad on the other side so so there it is yeah geez anything to add cap um I would say cable management but still so yeah well yeah I mean obviously obviously all the standard critiques would apply with the flip side system here like you could totally clean up all the cable management there how does key management work in this case when there's a system on either side yeah I mean you have to be creative with it or write or work with the space that's behind all the trace for the hard drives are yeah yeah cuz obviously that's that's a that's a mess that's a horrible mess right there it's gnarly but um anyway nice very very nice unique build a brand I'm sure it works just fine yes good job Brian thank you much very much for your uh submitting that next thing we've got Dan mr. Dan with horizon 1600 16 gigs of DDR 4 and an Rx 588 gigabyte model inside of what looks to be the case that is a budget looking case yeah yeah I thought it might be brands here on these clasps but yeah just a DD for optical drive yeah all right so your case just strikes me as a very budget case yeah might be the weakest link here um to be honest your CPU and GPU are great you've got a 500 gig SSD in there he says he's got two terabytes of SSDs um two terabyte hard drive look she followed up with this picture okay so he's got some airflow what's he trying to tell us with this picture by the way I have an optical drive I have a fan underneath my dental drive what's a fan all right so this Oh some additional is that a mod yeah I mean he positioned that in there I don't know whether it's just set in there but either he's got it fixed in there zoom it might be oh yeah I'm just this melody modded that is to send old did he get an old optical drive that's what I'm thinking yeah to mount the face yes that way he could actually mount it into the optical drive bay and then also mount a fan to the to the drive itself I applaud the creativity there it all new interesting it all needs to be cleaned yeah like your systems try been used for a while I got some dust buildup and whatever lots of herbs in there such a small budget case - yeah a man drives - uphill drag three hard drives a new case with some better Cale management's that has maybe a more aesthetically appealing set of harddrive cages like right cuz there's cases that have hard drive setups that you can put a bunch of drives in and bring I don't know something about the the dry this the edge of the drive sticking out with a bunch of safety cables yeah get something like that great getting into evolve or like a get the new fractal define our six the fantastic that has the hello drive cages in that drive trays and they're hidden and they're hidden yeah so and then ice little whoa I think yeah everything else looks great though that's a perfect the perfect balance between CPU and GPU your cooler is on point you know it's it's just enough for for the risin 1600 no problem storage looks great the power supply is fine I mean I'd remove the power supply sticker but everything else is good one thing I'll say just from a component standpoint is if you could afford to get I mean now is probably a bad time but if you happen to land on a really good deal for some higher speed ddr4 since you are ruck and risin I'll try to hit you know 29:33 80,000 megahertz or you can overclock if you haven't overclocked that Ram third skew 75 inch at pointed out it seems to be on the floor sir it does it does appear to be on the floor and I think that makes a lot of sense I will I will heavily criticize that computer shouldn't be on the floor other than that though everything Kyle said good job yep thanks Dan Thank You Carlos Jaime Carlos with the i7 6700k a z1 78 motherboard hyper 212 cooler gtx 960 graphics card the s340 elite case from NZXT hey Coolermaster silent for a 1000 watts power supply e2 plus bronze 16 gigs of g.skill memory 180 K SSD one turbot and that one terabyte per J okay ketchup and mustard I see it we get the single picture what a picture here yeah oh right oh you've got a mult no wait is that a adapter it looks like you've got oh a single yeah single 8 pin just 2 6 pin adapter yeah he's using the adapter oh that looks I haven't seen one of those in a while it's possible that that's not even there it looks like it might be a 6 pin there hold on what I need to zoom and enhance zooming enhance no 8 pin bra no look at the white the white plug oh hey can you do that zoom again a 6 pin yes yeah 8 pin they're all since they're all the same connections the same rail as long as you're not pulling too much amperage can that deliver what can that there's enough praising praising gauge wire there's a certain amount of wattage that can be drawn across it before the wire gets too hot and starts to melt the housing and that kind of thing that's where there's more connections those are see at risk at all it probably they're probably not with the GTX 1060 he's probably just fine or was it a 960 even oh yeah it's a 960 I think ok it's probably this probably ok yeah but this I think that's a 6-pin connector plugged into an 8 pin adapter what's crazy said he has a thousand watt power supply yeah which you would think would have that plug why do you need an adapter on it a cooler master silent Pro 1000 watt so that's very strange there's a very strange choice later what what did you do with those other cables sir sir Carlos um questions for you and why why even have a thousand watt power so Carlos you he doesn't want parts why should really have connectors to plug in directly to those without using it maybe he bought it used on Craigslist for like 50 bucks and that was the thing with the modular cables who knows that's a possibility but anyway but yeah some replacement cables something like that swap does that would be a very yeah good idea and responsible beyond that you know you got a clean-looking build your cable management looks good your power supply you know some extensions would clean things up a little bit when it comes to your cabling there you've got some sag on the GPU big-time that you know there's a couple options with potential ways to fix that but may or may not be something that bothers you beyond that you know nice nice clean looking built if you end up fixing the power supply issue and you upgrade your graphics card and whatever and you're still looking for something else to do the hyper 212 is something that is an excellent value and entry-level cooler but at some point you start it start starts looking not going as nice as the rest of the components and yeah like that definitely also does he not have fans at the front they might be and can they be on the other side of that if they could but it would pretty much restrict all airflow huh so if you have fans underneath your front panel I would suggest highly suggest putting them on the inside of your case yeah behind the dust filter not in front of it yeah a big good idea yeah okay all right final submission from blaze blaze with a blaze at 1700 key gtx 1070 g.skill trident z RG b series memory kit 16 gigs of DDR for 3,000 pretty high in stats also a good kit and works very well with the rise and stuff 500 gigs 900 a 500 gigabyte 960 voz s the deep blue captain 240 liquid cooler asus rog Strix x3 70 - f gaming motherboard and EVGA supernova 650 80 plus gold 650 watt power supply we all right so nice nice build yeah it is with the lights on the only real triggering thing to me here is that the fans are mismatched on your radiator that that bothers me but the OCD in these so you got like like my brains like that's perfectly fine but my by my heart I hurt her your heart hurts I don't know I I have a stickler about the fans matching especially when they're on the same radiator I mean come on it looks it looks so clean when they're all the same fans no it's because it's - and - yeah I think I'm just really I mean just like it would look very uniform you know if every fan in this case were those Corsair maglevs oh it would be perfecto oh yeah all right having so having the same exact fan throughout the case would would look a little bit nicer yeah but I don't - ray this doesn't bother me that much okay it's almost like like I wish I don't want this one get bigger he wouldn't bother me so much if they weren't so different like the fan frames are so like they're the most different and contrast days you could possibly get between two fans those those maglevs are extremely stylized and it just it just looks they clashed to me I'm picturing like a big way did you ever did you ever try when you were a kid right did you ever draw a gun like you try to draw like you know like yeah cool gun yeah and then just it was you would just make it bigger and bigger right they'd just be getting shit on there like a section here and then like a another part of then part of the barrel and then like another you know yeah yeah and so that's that's what this kind of rides it's like different pieces together I don't know yeah I mean honestly it's it's fine it's not like I'd look at it cancer I'm just saying like okay it's such an already clean looking build I have to nitpick something that's the thing that I go to so that's that's what you're going to it is very clean I mean it's hard to really pinpoint anything else on this system I mean even like the the stock PSU cables that you're using look decent like you've routed them well you've utilized all the right grommets and stuff and in the this empty case here or no isn't that the case it's fantasy it's eclipse oh great this is an eclipse p400 maybe he didn't say from the front panel it looks like it might be at eclipse p400 but it's definitely fantex at any rate um I'm digging it I mean maybe the wiring could be a little tighter coming off of your your CPU block the water block but it's obviously not bad at all it looks really good you even have like a nice fantex LED strip on power supply shroud and I have no other no other questions your honor okay good looks great that's my maan good job blaze hey listen to me those fans hurry are we doing for yourself we can skip it since rarity that way we've already been going for a while now yeah let's let's get on to the news and see how we are that okay all right move along with some tech news I told you guys we would circle back to the hole Intel's response to the meltdown fix sorry sorry babe the meltdown exploit you did say that so here we are specifically this articles from TechCrunch and they're just kind of talking about Linus Torvalds response to the way Intel's been handling the situation so far basically the last revolves is a very experienced fairly well known coder when it comes to Linux systems so he's pretty well respected in that he's kind of the father of Linux as Paul mentions and he is pretty enraged by how Intel has handled the situation so far he's been exchanging emails between himself and David Woodhouse who's an engineer at Amazon in the UK and among the email responses Torvalds claims that the patches and I this is a quote the patches are complete and utter garbage and also has anybody talked to them and told them they are effing insane he didn't say that he said fucking I said are they fucking insane that's why we have the warning that's why that's why I said the fuck word in front of the K IDs yeah he also argues that the so-called security fix that didn't tell recently rolled out a couple weeks ago was implemented poorly and essentially does nothing while also introducing redundant fixes that Google's Project zero has already sort of implemented themselves the fix I actually haven't installed the fix or updated to the fix yet so I definitely any of the windows patches I haven't experienced own any of the hardware BIOS patch the hardware BIOS patches that's because that's what he's what he's pissed about yeah - - pissed about the BIOS patch is Intel responding to this in a way that doesn't treat it as something like the it's talking about the the pre boot environment when when you're starting up a computer yeah and the way that in there's basically there's they're setting a flag so you have a bit that can be in a 1 or 0 position and that's a the the bit is in the position that says this CPU is compromised and fixable or this and and and should it be and should you implement the fix right so if they flip it then the implements fix so what he's accusing them of is doing a half-ass fix that still allows vulnerability because it's something that can be turned off and it's because in a lot of the situations they implement the fix because of how its effects branch prediction which is one of the ways that Intel CPUs became very fast is by by like it it's doing a series of calculations it knows as a good chance that it might that you might do a B or C so it just goes ahead and figures out what the results of a B and C are right you're gonna choose a so you choose a and you go down that path that figured out B and C it discarded those so that basically when you take away its ability to do that because inherently in that function there's is where the vulnerability lies when you take away its ability to do that depending on what you're doing and specifically in server scenarios it hurts the performance significantly as much as 20% which is a huge drop-off and I think in the article it references lift was it lift to actually reference after they did their server updates they saw something like a 20% performance hit or something oh wow I didn't see that it might not be in this number something else but yeah it depends on the situation if you're a home user and you're just doing typical day-to-day stuff on a home PC and playing video games that kind of thing it's not gonna affect you that much it's not gonna hurt your performance that much yeah there have been some people Hardware unboxed has done a decent amount of testing so far there's probably gonna be more testing going on to actually see like does this affect gaming performance and that kind of thing yeah it's it's been fairly minimal in that respect but a lot of this has to do with how it's gonna impact people who are run server farms yeah thing right cuz that's where you that's where a 20% drop off in performance is like devastated yeah devastating yeah that's the right work big-time so I mean yeah you know Torvalds is also asking why this this implementation has been installed at such a low level I guess if if Intel's claiming that feature processors won't won't actually need it that you know it's just this generation of CPUs and the ones for it that are affected there shouldn't be such a low level addition here and he's also saying that their technique Intel's technique is so inefficient that a universal rollout would cause widespread slowdowns and so instead Intel's made the main meltdown fix optional and added the redundant stuff to make the patch look more comprehensive so Intel's basically saying like what he thinks is that intel is trying to buff up the appearance of their fix to be more than what it is by throwing in a bunch of redundant fixes so to speak that aren't really necessary and that they're not really actually attacking the the heart of the issue so it seems like for now and I think Intel like maybe a day ago admitted that their their fix was was crap right they made some sort of public statement saying yes their public statements are very like everything is so like you know wait like they they passed every email and communication through like eight different PR people at different levels to have them make sure that the language was so precise and yet ineffectual right and it's completes yeah that can I think so so yeah they're basically they admitted and warned that some of the micro code updates that have been distributed through motherboard manufacturers so the BIOS update update CPU maker code to fix the CPU to make it not to basically remove the bug that makes it vulnerable to meltdown for example those have been causing instability blue screens that kind of thing and did you get the sense that in that public statement Intel's kind of throwing them other board vendors under the bus I thought they're like we urge all motherboard manufacturers to thoroughly test early versions of the fix before releasing them I was like yeah I'm sure fix like it's not like you should have thoroughly tested it before you give it to them yeah so like the fake Mars like it seems like that seemed like they were sort of pointing blame a little bit yeah trying to nothing I've seen ferment Elvis has like accepted full responsibility right or use the right language so it indicates that they're treating this with the proper level of seriousness that it deserves yeah based on the amount of vulnerability that's been introduced yeah exactly and that's that's sort of like why linus torvalds is is kind of like you know he's a controversial character at this point because in one regard he's very he could be written off as like this loudmouth Menace who's just you know way to trigger and it needs to calm the F down or an Intel whatever he's kind of known for his rants he is super known for that but he's also known to like he's able to do the rants cuz he actually knows what the hell he's talking that's the other thing is that at the same time he could be looked at he's being looked at as like sort of this unsung hero that that knows his shit well enough better than any of us do but better than most of us do to look at the code that Intel's putting out there and saying this is all wrong and and I guess if you're the only person or one of the few people who knows something that everyone else doesn't you kind of have to be loud-mouthed about it otherwise you kind of just get drowned out by all the other voices who don't really know what they're saying so in a sense it's like it's kind of good and that's sort of what the author's in this article from mm-hmm from TechCrunch is saying is that - as as crazy as he sounds I mean he's at least sort of helping us in a way he's ensuring that we don't get screwed over in this whole process and that Intel's actually doing the best they can to resolve the issue and you know and he knows he can receive the code and it's like he has a third eye whatever that we don't so he's kind of an antihero was blind oh then and then he made a band and named it after his third blind eyes I don't know those things they immediately regretted after saying it fun it's good segue Paul to our next article which is from a technics about NZXT this is a really quick one NZXT lowering the price of their new n7 is e 370 motherboard which I kind of saw this coming NZXT was out of all the vendors that we saw at CES NZXT was probably the one we least expected to show off a new motherboard in fact it was their very first the n7 on the Z 370 platform for intel core cpus 8th gen and yeah it got pretty good feedback based on the sort of feature set and the all of the the cam integration hue + + green + integration that people a lot of people are fans of and also the look I think it's a very unique style it's it's just good to see something different at the end of the day whether you like the style or not I'm glad that there's it's of innovation in that front on that front but it was 299 dollars which was hundred dollars and they first told me that price I was like oh this this could have been like a board that sold well kind of thing or it's like if you're selling it for $300 especially when there's like gigabyte in a season as Drock who are selling boards that have similar feature sets granted without the NZXT stuff for half the price um most gamers aren't gonna go for that so they've listened to fan feedback so far and they've cut it down 50 bucks to 249 which i think is still steeper than most gamers would want to afford for mainstream until I feel like most people looking in the 150 to $200 range maybe low 200s yeah 250 to 300 is starting to push it hng and there it's like it's just like this only so much a motherboard can do for you when it comes to connectivity and features and that kind of thing exactly you know it's long as it's got decent power delivery it's not gonna make your CPU that much faster and yeah so it's hard to say like look spend your extra fifty to a hundred dollars here mm-hmm versus like Oh spend your extra $5,200 getting you know the next tier up of CPU that has you know hyper threading instead of not hyper threading or or you know getting more memory or getting the next tier up of graphics card just stuff that you can more tangibly say will will help you during art and what you're doing with your computer yeah so and I think it's it's an interesting product because NZXT is a very well known reputable brand but the motherboard partner that they're working with for this board is ECS who's kind of an underdog in the whole motherboard market I mean they they're not really known for being like one of the big dogs hasn't be I hadn't heard that really know then the sweet they're like they're like we're not trying to hide anything we're we're working with ECS on this and so that's the bare-bones componentry is it's a nice ES board at heart and ECS boards you know they're the con amore I feel like on like the sort of entry-level side of things but I feel like because NZXT swooped in and and slap down their own Flair they're like we can totally they probably like had this you know they could they had definitely had a conversation with VCS or they're like look we can we can sell your boards for like double the price because we're slapping our name on a type of thing which is fine as long as you're giving a fair amount of features but I don't know I just don't know if if selling the entire NZXT ecosystem is gonna warrant a hundred and fifty extra dollars to the price for most people like easiest I think they're not as they don't have as good of a reputation in the US I'm not sure I think they do they do a decent amount of business in China and I'm not sure as far as the larger Asian market or that kind of thing but like for me it's like alright NZXT if that's a brand that I know a little bit better than ECS maybe I haven't heard of ECS before then maybe the the Eckstein name makes me trust it a little bit more and a little bit more possible that I might invest in this compared to like other options I've heard of like aces or gigabyte or something like that but what are you getting with this board this competitive at the two hundred and fifty dollar price right right like that's icy icy surface mount of power and reset are you getting the next-gen USB 3.1 connector they don't have that on it's not on there are you getting is there a debug LED on here there is but it's under one of the em top two slot covers what it's under this slot I don't know why they did that there you have to remove it in order to see it it's like right here on the left side I thought I was like that's a weird place or it's hard about that cuz debug LEDs on the only way they irritate me is when they can't turn them off like that one I think I guess you could yeah as like the time I'd like disable that one right at the same time you can instantly know that Arctic Panther yeah it's running perfectly fine just at a glance oh yeah at a glance mother it says hey a judge Jesus okay but yeah it's it's gotta be competitive you know and there's only so much a motherboard can do I guess so right yeah but but but if the thought is ECS plus NZXT seven letters combine them together and it's Nessus looks like a CSX or mines z spellin S&S music necessary on your notepad or something it looks horrified that's why you're not in marketing hey here's the point I'm trying to make them yep if NZXT through branding and maybe a look and feel update can help ECS sell their hundred and fifty dollar motherboard for a hundred and fifty dollars I'm okay with that mm-hmm if NZXT plus EC s and this fancy plastic cover that they put on here makes them think that they can sell hundred and fifty mother one hundred and fifty dollar motherboard for $250 that I think is stupid or at least should be called out like actually hey you're paying more money for this for the looks or whatever yeah you're getting it I can't say if that's the case or not but that's that's I think I'd be mapping I think the most compelling thing for me about this board is if you were just decided if you're decided that you're gonna get a you plus because this has a built-in oh yeah hue plus is 150 bucks ish I think the last time I checked it's about 50 so now with a new price reduction this is the one area I can justify it in it's like okay it looks cool and it looks different than any board that I want does it metal is it a metal cover it's a full metal shroud its mouth shroud I thought was plastic it's totally metal did you see it did you go to NZXT XD okay yeah it's full metal and and the board has a lot of heft ooh it feels very like heavy and stuff and sturdy not even Asus has like the I think that even they use plastic on there they're tough series boards so very high quality I mean I got to test it out and stuff just sort of feeling it is nice quality but I was gonna say is if you were just decided that you're gonna get a Houston anyway it's 50 bucks right there and if you're really digging into the style the sort of aesthetic here and they even have like swappable heat sinks like the vrm heat sink and the chips that heat sink those can be swapped out for different colors that they sell separately and stuff if you're really jiving if you're diggin the aesthetics and you're you're you know you're gonna get a huge that's that's my strongest argument for this board I think okay because you're still not getting you know there's a couple of the things that it's missing but if you're getting those two things if you're into those two things then technically it's like a two hundred dollar board right then it's like then that's like you're paying $200 for the board and you're getting the hue plus thrown in right you're gonna you're gonna buy a hue plus anyway and you're saving space in your in your system from not having to have that thick two and a half inch but super thick module I'm sorry I don't think applause oh it's really thick thank you but you guys let us know what you think in the chat let's move on to our next story hope I hope NZXT does well with this board because if they don't they probably won't release any other reports will be like let's just canvass and never do this again I I hope that they learn from it and get better I'd like to see more options in the motherboard space I feel like we do somebody build so often that it's like there isn't gigabyte board Asus board it's all the same shit after a certain point so variety is good but moving on here talk about some more variety when it comes to your Radeon FRX Vega 56 laterals what a segue that was a oh I like it uh sapphire according to WCC of tech is planning their new or plan to release their new rx making it 56 pulse oh you mean this story yes okay sorry I don't know it's fine you are they can do what the the the the RX Vega 56 pulse is expected to hit store shelves next month in February this was spotted in the wild by video cards calm yeah they do it's 970 us really okay so it's the article says 789 euro which I converted to 970 us but that is the current price that it's set to okay what refreshing honesty um which which is kind of confusing to me because if this hasn't really reached many retailers yet I I thought I was told by the internet who would never lie to me that the GPU prices that we aren't determined by the manufacturer but by the retailers right right I have you heard that it's something GPU maybe it's up the GPU adding board partners faults the in third they're not in control whatsoever of the prices it's all the retailer's it's Newegg and Amazon it's those guys who are setting these prices but this hasn't even hit the retailers yet and they're already quoting is 789 euro or nine hundred and seventy US dollar price tag so really are the retailers the ones that are in control of the pricing I don't know this that seems like it seems like sapphires has something to do with this or at least AMD I don't know it's crazy though $1,000 for a card that was close to retail for what four hundred five hundred the air cooled out of your finger I'm so confused I think three ninety-nine if we if we 100 maybe their works air cooled they get fifty six is supposed to be three ninety-nine yeah and and now it's it's more than doubled yeah holy moly holy moly you didn't get a third fan dual dual fan cooler I mean it looks nice fine sure it looks fine does it look at thousand dollars nice I gotta be I got a no I gotta be honest for $1,000 that would expect more than a plastic shroud but give me some metal in there or a thousand dollars I have it expects more than that's a weird backplate crappy plastic I'm just gonna be super super critical of all graphics cards yeah you're expecting me to pay $1,000 for this plastic piece of shit what the fuck is wrong with you are you kidding me these look at this look at this aluminum fins these are aluminum these should be gold-plated for $1000 with at least gold on there that make it more 6-millimeter heat pipe come on my god and why are the PCI he puts in the middle of the card I don't like you when they do that that's a very that's what case manager makes grommets that that accommodate middle positioned or power supply our GPU outlets oh yeah it's right here it's bigger the PCB only goes out half the card look at this you're paying me I'm paying $1,000 $1,000 get half a PCB that's no exceed its garbage crap it's trash that's disappointing disappointing anyway I'm gonna be reaching out to sapphire for a sample yeah I'd love to get one of these anytime you guys want to do business no no Furillo like I guess that that's what we should probably do now great if we're if they're gonna charge double all right it has to be reviewed accordingly for $1,000 in the past what have you gotten for $1,000 in the past a Titan X right yeah a Titan X you say the metal arm this graphics card should be spray painted black I will accept nothing less than spray painted black metal like they do with the Titan X yeah it makes it look really cool I kind of feel sorry for sapphire here because you know that they've been in development with this product well before the insane price hike of GPUs like they're probably like hoping to get this in at a more competitive price like you know what Vega 56 was going for before CES and then right when they were about to announce it like hey guys by the way yeah GP prices have pretty much doubled all across the board I mean but that's that's what shouldn't they shouldn't they're probably hoping to sell a lot more at half the price it doesn't matter if they're all selling they're only charging they are they're all they're only charging nine hundred and seventy dollars if people are buying them for nine hundred and seventy dollars that's it that's that's how it works they would not announce that price as the MSRP unless the cards are moving at that price cards ten 70s wouldn't be selling for what they're selling right now on eBay and there's no stuff if people weren't paying for that people are buying these cards for this amount of money this is all right this is a great news are they're not gamers this is everybody they're probably not gamers doing it there's you happily a much smaller percentage of gamers doing that versus people who are buying the cards thinking like I'm gonna get this in mind the cryptocurrency I'll make it back Oh obviously gonna be worth a hundred thousand dollars so also idiots buying these cards thinking they're gonna mind Bitcoin for some reason that's yeah okay did you not get a mind bitcoin you can find all my coins all Bitcoin mine here Emily is done by ASIC farms because bitcoin was taken over by ASIC farming back in 2014 2013 whatever it's all coins and other stuff like that's has been been supported but anyway are you mining do you how do you know intricacies err why not mining I've never mind I have no Bitcoin wallet I own no bitcoins I don't know cryptocurrency at all what's all that information for for someone who doesn't mind I mean I try to follow I make six videos in distress I guess it's not true some idea of what's going on with the hardware whatever people are chatter getting suspicious mmm-hmm no mining rig behind it there's a widespread conspiracy that I have like a big farm of mining a big mining farm going on anyway alright well ok can't wait for a sapphire is crazy overpriced graphics card to come out yeah who even cares at this point that is even matter um let's talk about something that's probably a little bit more affordable which is a motherboard gigabyte and asrock specifically have launched their Gemini Lake Gemini the board's first Gemini Lake motherboards to hit the market this is from hexxus thanks hexxus these two motherboard manufacturers have launched motherboards on this platform with pre-installed pre-installed Intel Pentium silver and Celeron CPUs so this is pretty pretty bare-bones like entry level alright lower end stuff but still all three boards seem to only be fitting with quad-core processors model number j4 105 which is a Celeron chip that can go the kantor bow up to 2.5 gigahertz but gigabyte is saying that it's jnt series boards will offer the option for the latest Intel Pentium silver chips as well so what the wait for that all the board's arfamis so the CPU CPU can see is being topped with a passive heatsink it's a very small low profile aluminum heatsink so completely silent in that in that regard also kind of gives us an indication that these are fairly low powered CPUs but they are capable of delivering some 4k video playback according to the article which would make great Intel HD HD PC or something like that until its page for these as products formerly Gemini leaked what do they have like a lake change no it's cos in so it's a code name it's not their shipping name so even though we can easily identify all of the products in this family by saying Jim and I lake according to Intel now that the product is lunch Jim and I like we can't say that anymore it's a code name until so corporate formally firmly Gemini it's kind of sickening tenia moose silver Jay five thousand five penny of silver and five thousand Celeron J 4105 these are all quad cores and dual cores that came out at the very end of 2017 all the 1.12 to gear gigahertz range and they're pretty much all being used and 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ton of time not having to swap that out in your system yeah because swapping out the motherboard is the worst thing to do leo el primo $15 built my first PC mid December with your help could've done without you guys thank you you're welcome 1600 Rison v 1600 with the gtx to 1070 strix beautiful card in the mesh fic beautiful case is it wise to exhaust up with two fans and intake with one rear and two front I think you're fine that's not like an overwhelming amount of positive or negative pressure either way so thumbs sounds almost neutral to me you should be alright also the mr. feisty has good dust filtration so no worries there I think you're good to go beautiful system thank you very much for the donation sir Guido salducci for the five dollars is there a power link adapter for the asus strix a 8g 1070 TI I'm interested in diverting the power cables to the sides and back power link is that power VGA our link is an EVGA adapter yeah and it's pretty flexible you can take the little plugs inside it and then screw and move them around and whatever it to be compatible with different cards I'm not sure with that specific asus strix card if there's a different or unique placement of the power connectors like the Sapphire card we were looking at that had the the two that are were right in the middle of the card would not work with that so if if they're in a pretty standard location at the edge of the card then it would probably be okay because the power link is pretty adjustable but um it might need to look up that card specifically - yeah figure that out indeed thank you very much Zane winter $5 it's sad when the value GPU is the Titan XP and prebuilt is the best option right now interesting fascinating confusing times that we're in right now I I'll have to agree with you there jujubee's 13 dollars and 37 cents once again the magic number I keep catching you guys late Happy New Year's happy New Year to you to teach peace glad you're here mark Gomes always films Allah's not guns Allah's poems always with an M $5 no comment thank you Mark you hit it monkey fart 81 $5 hey I'm currently conflicted should I buy my friends 10/10 atti or should I keep my ten seventy because I want to keep mining a theory or as he put it l 3m plus might be a typo there l3 I'm unless it's some new no coin I'm not aware of I don't know it depends on how much your friends selling is 1080i for I will say that if you're paying your own electricity the 1080i is far less power efficient when mining than the ten seventy from a bit of research that I did so if you like not having a outrageous power bill I would say keep the ten seventy kachou bruh the warlock $5 got a new a ocg 2 4 6 0 PF 24-inch gaming monitor free sink full HD 1920 by 1080 TN panel 144 hertz one millisecond height adjustable display port HDMI USB I can say oh my god congratulations congratulations you sound so nice you said appropriately excited about your brand new monitor which getting a new monitor is is pretty freakin amazing I will say especially something like that Congrats servants of tech $5.00 where would I submit my 4 pin IP see if I don't use Twitter Facebook may be always looking for more ideas on aesthetics at this time servants of tech I am only accepting submissions on the Twitter's so maybe consider getting yourself just some bullshit Twitter account that you only use prepare for Pitt my PC people have done it before it seems to work for them plus guy gets a nice kickback from Twitter I'm making it Twitter exclusive haha I wish member shirtz Heather Hansen hey it's my wife why the sauce everyone $5 hi honey here's a little something for you and your date night with Paul tonight so have fun well I think my wife's coming to go be a priest that's okay sorry you were invited Lisa Simpson thanks honey appreciate it oh it's our five dollars coming back to me oh yeah best q3 $5 love the show guys my PCs disc runs at 100% on Windows 10 for the first few minutes of being turned on despite a complete wipe of the OS any ideas when you initially turn on your computer it's pretty normal for it to do system startup things which might involve a lot of disk access mm-hmm so I wouldn't be too worried about that as long as it settles down and it's not always 100% disk activity you probably okay yeah first first few minutes I mean yeah just Windows 10 going in there taking all your personal information sending it back to Microsoft yeah you know it's pretty much I'll stake every date of mine's to be expected to my name is be mining some nerd named Steve $5 hey this may seem like a stupid question but what with the bottleneck with the 1080 TI sli setup and a thread Ripper 1950 XP you'd be looking at the yeah there's a if you look strictly at instructions for clock and gaming scenarios with Intel versus AMD right now and Zen architecture versus what they were using with coffee like there's about a 7% difference all things considered so only in situations where your CPU limited will your CPU actually potentially cause your 1080 TI to perform not quite as good as it might if it were impaired with like an overclocked 8700 K for example yeah but it's not that much it's pretty minimal so I wouldn't be too concerned about it you have a really nice keep you and I really nice and unless you're playing all your games at 1080 you probably not going to encounter that CPU limited situation very often if at all all right I agree with everything you said mmm boys in media we said media $5 does my vagina know but does my amiga amiga ever that has ever that totally incorrectly does my Amiga 4,000 with Video Toaster have enough cuda cores to run destiny to also I need a 24 pin serial connector to my monitor what's an Amiga 4000 with Video Toaster is old its old things failed old ass shit ah this is this is a really it's a really old computer um okay um probably not you probably can't run destiny - nope yes you would need a 24 pin serial connector for your monitor you probably should get a new computer and any monitor computers old updated your old you're an old person Tyler black $5 what would you consider high temperatures at idle for an i5 4690k at 4.5 gigahertz on average fan speeds if your fixed at 4.5 gigahertz you're not doing adaptive offset or anything like that and you're idling I would say 50s I mean probably in the 50s 1440 to 15 40 to 50 would be fine anything beyond that is a little concerning okay let's say you hit 65 as long as you're only hitting like 65 like 1 2 percent of the time it's fine if it's just a random spike all CPUs do that but if it's constantly like 65 66 65 66 69 60 to 61 66 then I would say check yourself but if you are using adaptive a frequency and everything which you should be because it makes a lot more sense as far as power savings then your your idle shouldn't matter your overclock shouldn't if they idle speed cuz you're idling it should be running it is reversible bass frequency yep so you should be idling it you know 28c may be little 30s is what I would expect yeah pretty much and that is pretty much it for the donations for this half of the show which means we can quickly shout out some Johnston's um let me get those up for y'all real work oh my goodness oh my goodness alright first Johnson to Benjamin lamb for the crystal RGB shirt thank you very much sir Johnson a Cameron Cameron from Kentucky he got the in bottle opener Carl Carl B with a bit with white logo Navy tri-blend t-shirt Johnson do you sir Andrew from California I got the mousepad set the search fit now Spencer thank you so much Andrew okay we're gonna double Johnson's picking up a CD yuku the shed and a baby Travis D from Colorado oh my gosh with a big old order of before a shirt and the RGB everything shirt and the gray logo polo shirt and blue t-shirt lots of shirts Johnson - Moses Moses stay positive tri-blend shirt Tyler from Texas thank you and Johnson to you for the gaming desk Matt sets double Johnson for Tyler he also picked up a bit with gaming mouse pad and one last big ol Jetson - Karl from Texas Karl get this stainless steel bottle opener Maxwell Johnson to usurp picking up a CPU cooler the woman's shirt and the CPU cooler Heather Navy t-shirt I forget those ladies funky oh and one more from Jonathan Jonathan beware bottle necks shirt - in a bit with logo it would circle logo decal and clucking look beautiful Oh guys thank you so much for all the things that you just bought off of our stores 100% of the proceeds go straight to us and thank you for very much for watching this half of the show but don't go anywhere because we're still gonna go on to part two or side B on Paul's channel that's Easter calm slash and Paul's Mart where you can follow the link in the description below if you're watching me on youtube otherwise stay where you are on Twitch and we will be right back thanks everybody also if you're watching on youtube and this is a reupload go ahead and feel free to do some time 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