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it just seemed like a really easy acronym really easy thing to say and I didn't hear anyone say it once they just are they facing are they phasing out that branding that's what it seemed like to me and I was like I don't care I don't give a shit I'm gonna keep calling an AP use because it makes sense but I didn't hear them say once during the whole eight hour whatever find our press event anyway I don't mind APU I but it's not it doesn't like it doesn't apply to Intel right because there's AMD thing even though it's not really brand centric it's accelerated processing unit which doesn't mean anything it just what it's the name that agencies made at a and yeah before a CPU with an integrated graphics right it's like hyper threading versus SMT yeah sure yeah I agree I agree with that but AMD fit at least continue using their own acronym so these are leaked images from the Chinese forum Baidu which we have seen many leaked things come from there in the past and it's about the to these skews here they're meant the mention right there the rising 320 200 G in the rising 520 400 G these are I believe 65 watt parts and they have integrated Faga graphics on them 2200 G says 45 to 65 watt so that's ok probably it hasn't been confirmed sure or that's impressive I don't know this overclocking states that that might affect the TDP but not but I'll probably have a static TDP I feel like yeah it's I would think so but these are exciting chips it's the first ApS we've seen from AMD in a long time the first one's ever to feature the rise in Zen's and architecture this is I should specify this as a rise in first generation stuff we're still on 14 nanometer here we are not doing the rise in second gen CPUs so we're still kind of like tapping into the the surplus of Rison first gen cpu that they have just combining that with integrated Vega graphics those are 14 nanometre precision boosts to however you will get which is going to be something that's featured on rising second-generation so there is a bit of rising rising to features and qualities that you'll get from these ap use the memory controllers have been refined so this was actually a huge issue with first gen risin is that the memory controllers weren't optimized to their fullest so you couldn't actually have really high speed memory in a lot of cases running with our eyes platform which did dampen the the gaming performance for example with the Infinity fabric integration so that's all been refined to support higher DRAM frequencies which is excellent it's fully overclockable not just the cpu portion but the GPU side of the of the apu as well are fully unlocked so you can get some pretty nice gains they were showing us some some pretty nice farik numbers correctly the GPU runs at 1250 megahertz by default and they did some overclocking with us two demos at the CES tech day where they were pushing it to 1400 1450 which yeah that's pretty huge got them a nice nice performance boost that's really nice on an APU and of course you know the Vega graphics here are just gonna absolutely crush Intel and their integrated graphics it's gonna be a great option I think for super budget gamers or even gamers who want to have a higher end experience but don't have the money to fork out on a discrete GPU right now because the prices are so screwed but hey I mean there's still a bunch of a.m. for motherboards out right now that have display video outs and and things like that where you could pop one of these in there these are going to be backwards compatible with existing a and for motherboards where you could do some light gaming on these I mean granted it's like maybe the prettiest thing you've ever seen or the the most smooth playback that you've seen but again it'll blow in telling the grete graphics out of the water and get a lot of users I'm sure a temporary solution for PC gaming until GPU prices either come down or until you're able to find you know luck of the draw GPU that's reasonably priced anyone who's trying to save up just enough money to build a gaming PC right now but like obviously has no choice when it comes to a graphics card just because they're also overpriced yeah this is a great entry choice that will let you play games at you know 10 80 and maybe you can't crank up the settings to max or anything but Polly can play about medium and low and he can still play that's not ideal but you can still build a gaming PC and then hopefully hang out for a couple months then graphics card prices come down hopefully they will at some point and then you can drop a GPU in it and you're still good to go yeah and the nice thing about these chips is that you know even if you already had a let's say you already had a discrete GPU they're pricing these pretty similar to first gen Rison but you're getting that bonus integrated graphics feature with Vega so that which is good for like troubleshooting in stuff it's nice to have an integrated GPU sometimes even if you do have a discrete graphics solution and there are also promising higher clock speeds out of the box so similar price as rise in one but you're getting a lot more for your money at the same time so that's exciting as well and you know these pictures are obviously taken from just some random person on the internet so take that with a grain of salt but it looks it looks fairly legit from whatever we can tell the same Wraiths though the Wraiths stealth that comes included with both of these chips is also being featured here in these link pictures and it looks pretty much to have the same design as the existing wraith stealth not much has changed here not really any reason for it to doesn't need to get bulked up because these tvp's are about the same or even lower potentially than the last generation of verizon so good stuff all around looks like you know China is already getting these we're pretty much on we should be on track to see these on their release date February 12 cool sweet moving on there's I'm just gonna go through this article quickly cuz you know it's it's kind of kind of thick in some areas but basically the feds have shut down a six hundred million dollar cryptocurrency scam or they believe to be as a scams from Ars Technica the SEC Securities and Exchange Commission they just shut down an initial coin offering for a cryptocurrency project called arise Bank arise Bank claims to have raised six hundred million dollars for the project although this was never confirmed by the SEC this arise Bank project was also endorsed strangely enough by boxer Evander Holyfield earlier this month which he's my go-to when it comes to cryptocurrency absolutely I trust anything he says on that topic in particular sure he's an expert SEC says the ICO or initial coin offering wasn't registered with the agency and the founders of the project have have made at least two fraudulent claims as it sold its new cryptocurrency so these guys are a little sketchy to begin with the people who are operating this whole thing the SEC basically what this means is the SEC is cracking down on the sort of crypto projects that have red flags of being a potential cyber scam to thousands of people one of the founders for example jared rice was charged in 2015 with a felony theft and tampering with government records on top of other accusations of fraud tampering with government records that seems like like you're definitely up to something tampering with government records and stuff that's unique but if you just found some errors and he wanted to correct them sure maybe he has OCD that could be it was just very high attention to detail this guy can can't jump to conclusions it was just a random typo on something the project revolved around its digital currency called a rise coin they also had an identification platform called a rise ID an operating system called arise OS there were there were no signs really that the project had a substantial following there was only about 45 subscribers on there their subreddit their rise banks I've read it some other red flags include the fact that they claim to be working with a financial tech company called marquetta to enable payments that would allow users to to use the visa network to make payments but marquetta upon learning about this claim by a rise bank completely denied it and said we have no idea we're not working with them at all and some other just shady things I'm not going to get too much into detail here but this was a texas-based company texas-based project and texas regulators have already ordered a rise bank to cease claiming itself as a bank and to avoid doing business in Texas so basically saying just shut your operations down you are most definitely a cryptocurrency scam and we don't want you doing business anymore in Texas is usually so business friendly yeah and they certainly are and so it's definitely saying a lot there so just guys be careful you know this is uncharted territory a lot of this crypto mining stuff if you go if you are gonna be investing time or money specifically into the whole mining world just be careful make sure you do a lot of research don't take everything just for truth and yeah stay safe out there the Internet can be a scary place especially when a lots of money is and potential for making money is involved but moving on here this is an article was kind of circling back to Newegg actually it's funny cuz I was actually gonna talk about this I put a note on my site yeah I mentioned this it didn't much forget or I just forgot because I I got the emails about this from knew I could fill it cuz I joined the new affiliate program background Black Friday and I still don't linked to anything there but I just joined I was like well I might as well have this set up so I got the emails about this but yeah so so so basically this is an article from hardware and essentially in a nutshell we'll go over this quickly Newegg is cutting off their their GPU category for their affiliate program so if you were a new egg affiliate and you were let's say some sort of reviewer or an influencer online who you know was promoting products and getting a kickback for any to any time you would refer a new egg product to your viewers and they would buy it GPUs are now excluded from that program entirely when it comes to new egg and they issued a statement saying you know basically Bitcoin mining has gone mainstream it's literally a quote that they said and the limited nature of these cards has caused a shortage in which supply can never meet demand and thus many users are actively buying these cards as soon as they get in stock so this means effective in seven days from now all vga cards will be marked non commissionable for the foreseeable future on all business units so if you were a huge if you were hugely a user of the Amazon I'm sorry the Newegg affiliate program you can now no longer make any affiliate money or commission off of graphics cards anything the VGA category is off-limits because they simply just can't meet demand and you know they're probably well because I say you say because they're but like this is this is this is my this is my kind of irritation with them right so I got the Commission Junction advertiser update here which has all of their existing terms their existing terms for new customers for train customers everything like that and basically Commission with new egg is about usually about one to two percent it's not that fantastic Amazon is much better when it comes to Commission that's provided but they have exclusions listed which includes actually doesn't include Apple products video game consoles and they have an item list called loss leaders so basically if it's a loss leader if they're already losing money on the product which means the salient really cheap just to get people to come to the website and buy stuff you're not going to make you Commission on that so all these lists all these are so these lists and then they're updated terms which is basically everything exactly the same but 0 USD Commission on item list VGA 0 USD item on item list video cards because new a glice likes to have two separate lists for VGA and video cards because item maintain is a piece of crap but never mind about any of that point is the initial email they sent out about this which I was trying to pull up here because I had it but they sent an email about this which lists like Kyle was saying like oh you know they're just selling so well and everything so blah blah and it's like bs like absolute BS i know they have to say something in the email to be like here's why we're doing this or whatever but just bullshit right yeah these cards are flying off the sell off the shelves we have no need to pay you any Commission for them for referencing sales to our website right that's what they're saying yeah there's nothing in there but like oh they're selling first so quickly so just we can't it's too quick we can't calculate the commission for you guys because they're selling so fast or whatever no like no oh these cards are suddenly selling for twice as much as the MSRP so it's just really hard to cut you guys in on the margin no yeah they're making double the margin if not more than that right they're just being like look we don't need your help selling these so we're not gonna pay you for it that's right that's that's what it boils down to yep so in a nutshell these GPUs are selling themselves right exactly yes so we're not gonna lose any money off of you trying to push him it sucks for affiliates it does I mean yeah and like you said like the payout for new egg is so small anyway to begin with 1 2 % it's like ever been thanked some people a lot of people are I'm sure there are a lot of creators out there publishers whatever journalists that are relying on their affiliate sales to some degree and yeah that's just kind of its kind of shitty just another way that the situation's just screwing people over it's freaking crazy man but hopefully know you guys are affected too badly by that but we can move on here because we have some additional stuff to cover this is the last article from tech news the tech news segment about Dell considering to sell or considering this sell a sale really to VMware in what may be the tech industry's biggest deal ever I guess steel ever um so basically Dell right now or merger yeah it's a reverse merger because right now Dell owns about 80% let's reverse herpes kind of but it stays with you even more than that around it's like ghost turkeys so um right now Dell owns 80% of vmware but now vmware might actually buy Dell the reason why that might happen is by doing that it would allow Dell to be traded publicly because right now they're a private company and so a VMware bought Dell they'd be traded publicly without having to go through a formal listing it would also be obviously like I said the biggest deal ever in the history of tech giving the investors who backed Dells move to go private back in 2013 a way to sort of monetize their deal while helping Dell to pay off some of its 50 billion dollar debt I should mention this article is from CNBC thank you guys very much so yeah 15 to 50 billion dollars in debt I'm sure that has a lot to factor in this shit out what do we do this reverse merger here now that is to say that you know Dell still could go with a more traditional IPO but the reverse merger would let the company dodge yet another public offering the board the Dells board will meet next month to explore all the various options and it's still unclear what the exact valuation of Dell as a company is because they are private so there's no real way of knowing but it did take itself private in a 24 billion dollar deal in 2013 before acquiring EMC for 67 billion dollars or so which was at the time the largest tech acquisition ever Fernet and it will be it still is for now if this reverse merger happens I I would imagine it's gonna be a lot more than 67 billion which is a lot of a lot of billions many many billions many billions of dollars so who in who's to say what that would do for Dell as a company as a hardware manufacturer you know is it you know are they still gonna make same quality products well that change is is alien we're still gonna suck we don't know so you know this is also say that big big money big money in the tech industry might be floating around and that could potentially change some things so when you look at all the like system integrator companies and whatever especially the ones that were around in like the late 90s and 2000's like Dell still around there's logic there's lots of other examples of companies that have faded out you know totally bit the dust as as times have progressed but right yeah like I just my wife's my wife's Dell monitor that I got her she really likes that yeah 43 inch and they still make a killing off of their uh their pre belts and stuff yeah but that's all for strict tech news for now and we can move on to our next segment which is pimp mop please look I have lower thirds for it whoo yeah are prepared af brah to some degree hell yeah this is where you guys send in pictures of your rigs and pollen I'm Aki for it while also trying to give you some constructive criticism starting with dick Oh his name isn't dad ' it's difficult to birds he's foreign he's a foreigner 10 white Dan liked a very very white name haha he's gonna rise in five 1600 with an R X 588 gigabyte model that's expensive now 16 gigabytes of ddr4 Samsung 850 500 gig SSD 2 terabyte Louisville and NZXT s340 alright so let's help dad out here the first thing I'm gonna say is ketchup and mustard because my eyes are immediately drawn to that 24 pen ATX cable right there yet which is cancerous to the enth degree dan get yourself some sleeved extensions maybe black would do good because it looks like you've got a lot of black going on here you can even do black blue you've got a single PCI Express power connector here I believe that's a 6 pin what's our excit default have six or eight four all right for what I meant I was I was thinking about Rose I was like a pimper rush yeah okay four and four anyway that would solve your problem here repent fact that you've got a daisy chain PCI Express power cable with the extra nubs hanging off there right it doesn't look that great so that would solve that problem too other than that your cable management is pretty tight okay your if you're going all out you can match you match you the fans a little bit more you've got a couple LED fans in the I'm an LED fans yeah but make them all LEDs or make none of em LEDs I guess ya would be my my choice then to for birdie is your friend finally you got a clear mastery what I believe is a hyper 212 which is a very solid and perfectly adequate CPU cooler but in this type of build that's the thing that's standing out a little bit just slightly less than that than the ketchup and mustard cables as not not the prettiest yeah you know there's other options in the 30 to 50 dollar range when it comes to air coolers it might look a little bit nicer if you decided to upgrade that definitely but again only for aesthetics right functionally your high pitch is what was too loose oh yeah we're very much emphasizing the pimp aspect of all this Santiago thanks Dan Santiago yeah the core i5 7400 and gtx 1070 with ace districts let's see you've got a good bite z170 XP sli motherboard a master box 5t planning on moving to an i7 7700 K and a IO maybe a Kraken x64 potentially thrown a two eighty millimeter rat in there okay what do we got here Oh interesting um a lot of stuff going on it seems that's a GPU support I believe so why is that yeah MMD custom very pretty positive that's that is custom made I can't I can't mouse over it because it pops up the damn thing yeah I see because it's screwed into the other yeah turn into the PCIe slots and it's it's half decorative haven't laughs well I guess mainly for something asus would've made probably not I'm guessing it's either 3d printed or maybe there's some small shops that does it or something I think it looks fine it's a little rough the finish looks a little rough on it but yeah but it's key it's preventing GPU sag and I will always approve of that sure beyond that you're definitely 100 percent accurate when it comes to next potential upgrade swapping out your stock CPU cooler for something nicer would be nice yeah bear in mind though that you don't have another claw Keable cpu so dropping say a hundred and fifty dollars or so like a crack at like a crack in it would cost you I feel like would be a little overkill boy yeah but he was considering it for the East 77th oh okay oh yeah yep if you upgrade your CPU as well then then yeah go for it something like that beyond that if you want to keep your CPU if you're fine with the performance then something like a reasonable 35 to 50 ish dollar air cooler might make things I want to get cooler a little bit quieter and look look a lot nicer yeah so something like an enter max a TST 40s or Claire rig each 77 or what else be quiet quiet let's let's be quiet um a more slightly budgeted would be like the slim rock or shadow rock shadow rock slim slim something like that yeah so one of those I go with one of those you know but definitely if if you drop a 7700 K in there than the Kraken X 62 would be would be a very nice pairing to go along with that yeah it's a mansion set up to get some more matchy-matchy fans in their eyes that I'd love to see you get the computer up off the ground or at least even if it's not on the grounds a little bit higher up than that you've got some I don't know how much space you have just getting it a good you know 1218 inches up off the floor I always recommend it if possible but it doesn't look like you have a whole lot of space to work with there so but yeah nice clean build overall you got the accessories in the case and everything looks really nice just that see people who are upgrade yeah thank Santiago next up we have mr. mark no simple silicon simple silicon um let's see mine and stream so he's clearly mining and streaming with this system again we're sort of suffering with with that you know Intel stock cooler computer off floor doesn't look like there any specs attached here so we kind of just have to sort of guess on the CPU looks like probably a you know as easy to 70 based chip or something like that MSI motherboard GTX 1080i I don't know what AIB that is maybe pay late or something like that it's their memory installed dude there's tons of just tons of is this like a single stick of memory is that am i seeing a single stick of memory there it looks like there might be like oh maybe you're right I'm yeah yeah like this either no memory or a single I think I think you're right I think it's just one stick yeah so you know maybe upgrade to some dual-channel Ram that would help you with the streaming and and other things in general queue management insane it's really bad it's really really really bad it looks like you i I don't know like this is a modular power supply so I can't imagine what all these cables are doing up in here there's he hasn't really he has a fairly high end power supply for a fairly budget case yeah an HX 5 minutes it's a nice parcel but like look what you got 2 drives here and an optical drive I just I'd why are all these cables right here it's like he thought he had to plug them all in maybe like Oh full e modular I guess I gotta like fill them all up no it's the opposite of what you want to do with a full power supply so this once this wants a complete recap job and I don't know if you have any behind the motherboard options here but but please take advantage of them if you do if not like you've got some space down here at the bottom just take all your excess and just tie them all up down here at the bottom and then beyond that like reduce some of these cables you got lots of just kind of loose floppy cables everywhere you know it's not looking very also redo your floor and your carpet flooring the crack just looks like a bomb went off like what happened is some stuff over here in the corner did like did you get swatted and did they like break things it looks like was there there's that blood on the floor it's like clean the place like that's also why the case and the system overall probably looks a little bit shoddy this might be blood that my view that's probably a blood stain okay or worse yeah some help in that department I think that looks like you know a life decision that needs to be made not just for your system but for your own well-being but simple silicon we wish you the best I hope our recommendations have helped you yes thank you for the picture Mark Stephens Thermaltake Corp III based system rise in 1700 x EVGA 16 gigs EVGA memory is that another thing Yugi all right I mean sure or sk5 motherboard a micron I'm 600m Natsu SSD thermal take the tough power RGB 650 watt power supply a GTX 1078 100 IV to coolermaster with RGB fans k 65 RGB m65 RGB so many RGB things boy the Yellow Jackets alright so void wait wait let's go yellow just little voices the Yellow Jacket RGB boy just is that the corsair void oh yeah ok probably ok so he's got figurines and stuff in here so um no it's like your ear down looks like you're down with the sort of mismatched colors I wouldn't say mismatched but it looks like you've got a 2-tone thing going on here you've got that sort of hot pink in one picture you have green LEDs on the motherboard and two power supply but red LEDs on your radiator fan and then another cycling they're cycling through our RGB scheme or something essentially yeah because in the next video or a picture sorry the colors are completely swapped where you have pink LEDs on the motherboard and power supply and green on the radiator fans so maybe you're just switching between those two that seems better than this one and this one isn't blues blue so I'm guessing it's just RGB in it's cycling sure which is fine totally fine it seems like the rest that's fine because the rest of your components seem to be color neutral anyway yeah right but what pisses me off about this thermaltake RGB power supply is not the fact that it has RGB lighting but the fact that the PCIe connectors are red yeah that's stupid why if you're gonna make up thermaltake has had red PCIe connector is on so many other power supplies for way too long and it's stupid I know it's really stupid it's very triggering I don't know what to do but if you if you have a pin extractor you can get us you can get a different PCIe connector extract the pins and swap them yeah I mean it's or just get some clean extensions and you solve two problems with one yeah two goes to to a data birds with one stone so to speak I do like to ate ate a bird I think it's yeah I like it something like the bird add some flare for the dude guy will do neither it's slightly different than my doom guy my doom guy is I like the controller assortment things going up front you get the PlayStation and then in Nintendo yeah giving some love to the rec room but yep thanks mark thank you Mark you're good sir next up we've got Oliver Olli there holy Viera Zeon built all right X 56 50 overclocked to 4 gigahertz GTX 1050 overclocked to 1962 megahertz 16 gigs of generic with stars jun'er generic love that Randy loved that brand gear by x58 USB 3 motherboard paper to 12x and NZXT century fan controller 3d printed power supply shroud and CX 430 power supply 2 terabyte Seagate hard drive and a 100 kick generic he really likes the generic labels do we know oh it's a fractal this is interesting is that a duct tape power supply basement no it's 3d printed I would sweet but it's a 3d printed power supply shroud oh yeah three frames do you even said it sorry what is that cable coming out of it for though what there's a that's like a power cable it's going to do some card going to an expansion card maybe that's a magic card maybe it might be USB 3 I've seen USB 3 expansion cards that require an extra BR connector and that would be a reasonable upgrade for an ex 58 system because you don't have any oh sorry us Matt Sorum that so that's my guest there all right Christian yeah definitely a fractal case this is a this one is this one of the arcs it's my P an art you might be right haven't seen this case in a while kind of just like disoriented right so the thing about this system that struck me upon reading the specs was it's an ex 5650 Xeon which is overclocked decent amount of memory not a super high part graphics card CX 430 power supply just seems seems like the lowest and lowest common denominator like it's it's adequate it's getting the job done but a DES and any higher end graphics card here and I feel like the CX 430 becomes this limiting I don't know how much power draw that Xeon processor has that you'd be dealing with there but aesthetically the cable management is very clean all things considered you know you've got some ketchup and mustard there but there's not a lot of excess cable that's just hanging out unnecessarily the cables that you can see seem to be in the locations that they're in because that's the only option that you had right especially when it comes to your expansion card that's down at the bottom power supply shroud that's 3d printed I'm really why not play yeah why is it a black it's and it's all still lines you can see this sort of like you can see the alignment and that down see why there's like airflow consideration there but it's on the top but you know power supply fan is facing up but it's not I don't know it's confusing that's Kim it confuses me I don't know what to say about it seems kind of pointless yeah it doesn't seem like it's doing a whole lot I mean I guess if you got a bunch of ugly cables coming out of the Pirates play right there that's probably the main reason he did it I feel like to cover those if you could bundle those cables and zip-tie them like neatly it would be less distracting then that then the power supply shroud but you've also just got a situation where you have an older Zeon x58 build and the motherboard is all blue and light blue and so you're never gonna get all that to match up very nicely I mean I give props to this build because it's probably a very functional system with some parts that aren't necessarily parts that you would expect and I don't know Oliver if you've been sort of partying this system out for a while or if you got some good deals on stuff or whatever but I'm yeah yeah it's it's definitely unique cool you'd have to have good the entire platform I think if you want to make some huge aesthetic leaps thank you that Oliver thanks man and then finally we have rail Yoram rail grim relig ran with an 8700 k h 100 I beat to an asrock extreme for 16 gigs of Ripjaws 5 GTX 970 and a Corsair c70 case alright um okay what do we got here uh cable management right off the bat my eyes are drawn to your power supply cables and just sort of how loose those are I feel like that could be tidied up a little bit maybe zip ties zip tie that bunch together your HD audio cable looks like it's stretching a little bit you know things are a little bit loosey-goosey and you know obviously some sleeved extensions would help you clean up the look of the build overall for your ATX 24-pin your your GPU let's see what else we got here it looks like you have lots of airflow which is nice to those fans that you've kind of mounted to the left of your drive cages I'm sure that's gonna add some more airflow to keep EU the red Ram sticks I'm not a huge fan of just because there isn't much else in your system that's red other than one of the LEDs on your motherboard because I feel like this isn't count too much um I take the power supply sticker off and there's a there's an interesting like Fame controller thing done here in the drive cage right I've Cajon right I'm wondering if there's a point it's a 3.5 inch front panel but he's just stuck it into one of the 3.5 inch drive I mean that spare I don't have a problem with it I mean if you needed that in order to get all your fans working many fans are in here you got an exhaust rear exhausts might be a couple up here in the front for intake yes maybe 7 I did it just it's a Z 370 board I don't feel like it would be that short on fan connectors or anything I don't know that's like with like he had it in an old build and so he wanted to keep using it or so it could be that some people just prefer Hardware control for their fans which I guess office and header here is honestly and hit her here oh yeah cuz sometimes like fan software can just be garbage or just not work properly okay and can be finicky so I understand like it's sort of peace of mind if you if you turn that knob half way you know it's gonna be 50% fan speed and you can sort of easily measure that out and it's like sometimes fan fan software works perfectly fine other times it could be finicky or give you bad bad readouts and stuff like that I've had some negative issues with it but um you know it Paul could be right maybe you're recycling this from an older system I still have a couple fan controllers from you know 2012 that what do you think of the red okay that's why I said minimal red accent that's why I said I was like I'm not a huge fan of the Red Sticks because all it really matches with is that one red LED on your motherboard which doesn't really count in my opinion that red LED taped up or something so deliberate and I think it would look cleaner overall if they were just black dims to be on black or silver because you do have some nice silver on your your your i/o shield why is it say Intel on that on that motherboard there on his i/o shield because it's an Intel motherboard really he's got Intel Gigabit Ethernet this is a it's a smart board I didn't realize that board I didn't realize 17 there was an azrog Z 370 board the hedge so such like potent Intel branding on it I haven't seen that very often it's because of the that's specifically advertising the Gigabit Ethernet controller I imagine that's is it that's an Intel Gigabit Ethernet controller on here yes is it 10 I don't know I'm not I feel like it'd have to be tend to warrant that big of a may cause I mean it's funds and other boards have big effects and asrock is known to you know throw a 10 gigabit NICs onto onto their boards yeah but I'd have to double-check the stats yeah but um you know I mean there's a lot about this bill that's good too you know yeah I know I wonder I feel like the radiator placement for your i/o looks a little bit too far to the right I feel like if you can move it towards the back of the case like you wouldn't extend the tubing so much and it would just like a little bit more balanced that's layered that's probably a weird personal core combined though I disagree with and I like it you like it the radiator is centered as far as the case goes there's a gap in the front there's a gap in the back also the tubing length is it's this it's fine I think because you you see the center there's a nice there's a nice curve to it if you if you change it too much it might get droopy you don't want it you know droopy tubes I I'd rather have some slack to my tubes than have them pulled taut IMO it's like I don't even know you anymore I call you drippy who are you droopy tubes day I'll call you droopy colors your boo tubes day Kyle straight stranger Pyramus I don't know keep your bill the way it is don't listen anything either of us are saying but thank you nonetheless real grim for that submission that's going to conclude pin by PC I think you all for seven those pics we'll be doing some more next week or in the future also Brian from bps customers wanted to send me a picture of a rig that he's been working on he likes to show them off on her show which I was like totally down for but I don't know where where that tweet is so Brian hit me up next week and we'll get you featured on the count's press all of it gets so I say we just I'm super hungry so let's let's get faceoff once again I like that is the most skippable segment ever and we could dive right in to Q&A and Johnson starting with some donations here oh yes Brett lomez for the $5 how long were you and wifey sauce actually stuck on the ride Brett is referencing our Disneyland vlog that we uploaded today which you should you guys should definitely check out I spent a good eight hours editing that really and it's a 10-hour video yes I spent a long time editing that well I mean you don't really realize it when you watch it what's lots of footage and trying to just make it non stop entertaining by cutting like every single piece of dead space takes a lot of time and I threw in some like you know random things here and there that are funny but guys check that out he's talking about us being stuck on one of the rides that shut down that broke down while we were on it it was the Big Thunder Big Thunder Mountain Railroad we were stuck on that ride for about at the Pirates eat the people no they did not there were no pirates on that one that was prior to the Caribbean but you're stuck on them right for about 20 minutes before someone came and got us must have been hell it wasn't too bad we were all kind of like talking to the other people on the on the ride and just shooting the shit and having a lousy cannibalism did you have to resort to there was no cannibalism as I suspected initially they did they did look hungry when they when they showed up but fortunately it was not for the human flesh you got lucky we did those cannibalism stories Disneyland but thank you for your concern Brent and your donation Robert rule for the five bucks no comment thanks forever no comment back to you sir other than thank you you ruled Joseph - sure 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Rogers Network neighborhood why for our Strix graphics card shroud so oversized with no purpose happy Tuesday yes I would mr. Rogers Network neighborhood no area very trustworthy nope and strict sorry for Harry crowds and they they look they liked a big surface area size matters to a lot of these manufacturers what I understand it's about surface area surface area and you from the fins and stuff Biggers better sometime bazinga Xing yeah $25 here's your 25 for breaking the ride at Disney I take full credit for that stunt and you got paid for that easily I'm gonna need a lot more than $25 to fix all this shit I did to them Robert rule how he commented this time Rob rule five dollars I already have an RX 570 but it's in my i-5 760 Linfield should I bite the bullet on ddr4 and build something ah Linfield man Linfield was just before Sandy Bridge and it's probably getting to be pretty old at this point I haven't looked at any direct to numbers on it but definitely if you can hold out for a bit longer it's probably worth it to weights and a couple months and see if memory prices start to die down a little bit right memory and GPU pricing are the two things that are keeping building your own PC and a realm of hurt hurtfulness and hatred right now but we're told you know ddr4 production bike ramp back up demands might might taper off a bit prices might normalize hopefully that actually happens yeah we can only do jubie's 13 dollars and 37 cents Coursera ll series fans or fantex halos by the way will you guys ever attempt a 24 hour extra livestream both both jujubee's you should definitely do both do both both fans um it just really there's different they're different things they're two different things yeah you commercial ll series fans are fans fantex halos or fairness brackets that go around the fans right fantex halos are made to add on to fans that don't necessarily already have lighting on them I don't know of course their makes ll serious fans that don't head of lighting they don't they don't but let's say for example you wanted the performance of something like Corsairs ml or Maglev series fans yeah but you didn't like the fact that they didn't have RGB or any sort of aesthetic bling you could put the fantex halos on those ml series fans and have the best of both worlds essentially the two don't really rival but they complement each other yeah or like like knock two n ff12 s or n FF for teens like the industrial versions that are all black yeah B plus the hills would be a great combination of really nice really nice well performing fan and cool aesthetics the third part of that which is the sucky part is how much it would cost to get ya the halos and the fans operating 24 hour extra livestream I don't have currently plans 12 hours I feel like is reasonable we're getting old now I know we don't we don't do the 24 hour stream I would only do 24 hour stream if it was a group thing if we had like five or six people training yeah like you didn't the fulbright didn't always have to be on yeah you know all the time or whatever which would be fun we should consider that yeah maybe possible MB sixty seven thirteen dollars and 37 cents l wifey sauce is getting hungry so here's a small donation to help feed her and yourself Cheers that is the one true way to my wife's heart is through her belly so you hit the nail on the head there thank you very much MB should be both appreciated Ethan L $5 you guys have inspired me to create my own tech channel near the end of this year looking forward to being part of the family someday you're already a part of the family that way if you haven't it now part it built to your system good luck on that though Ethan hope it goes well pup Shepherd $20 hi wags wags if you're kinky I do a weekly show called pup talk new guests every week we are on episode 202 203 well I was out this Friday more episodes we have of awesome heart midnight EST I have I even have high-profile guests such as Matt Baume pup struggle hexie and more good to know thank you very much pump Thank You pop I'll be sure to check it out when I am feeling extra kinky only if I'm feeling I can keep hopefully though only how I'm usually feeling yeah of course we should host them tonight I have to watch that yep Tyler Farnsworth $5 Kyle did you ever get your GTA art hung up Paul is the htpc still coming well this guy's keeping us on our toes Wow hippin at the heels cheers guys keep up the great work PS boobs are awesome and can't argue with their gta5 artwork will be hung up as soon as I get the little command poster strips I should be here tomorrow or Thursday and they'll be going those those the artwork will be going right up behind all the video cards and figurines and stuff there it'll look really nice HT PC is still coming I've had a really hard time kind of getting back into the swing of things and in this past month but I've got some stuff planned for this week so htpc yes is still among my upcoming planned projects hopefully more in that basin we should just do a bunch of videos with boobs because boobs are awesome that's probably the best the best idea ever probably more ROI on those Omar $10 gtx 1050 TI or a used GTX 970 to get by for a few months right now I'd go for the used GTX 970 cuz even tempted DTI is overpriced or like yeah like 200 bucks I don't know how much used 970 s go for but that's still still a solid card yeah bazinga X $5 Kyle for April 1st April Fool's you should break in and put all of Paul's computers on the floor well I can't do that now that you already said it with him here I know roux is boiled darn it you also have to set up a bunch of like like cameras to record my reaction everything's good I you just imagine you walking in seeing the first computer oh my god Oh what am I gonna do you know I turn to the next one oh my god another one oh my god it's like 15 times 3 we have 2 mini computers a floor we do house all do Chi once again 13 dollars and 37 cents by the Twitter of that guy with the messed up room and the 1080i with one stick of RAM and give him half of this money to buy a broom oh that should be enough to fur broom I would think you would think of Elite broom unless unless but you know sometimes you give someone like that the broom and then the broom just like goes on the floor and joins the oh crap so as far as the problems having I think to the chaos good suggestion nonetheless thank you for the donation guido trevor Claussen we have a five-dollar information here what do you think about frozen CP you saw them tweet about for Pitt my PC I did not see them to eat about to my PC did they but what did they what did they tweet what did they tweet I'm not sure Paul's gonna look it up while we go to the next one Danny Stanberry $5 I'm building a nucleus for my fiancee should I wait for rising too or just get rising 1.0 wait for rising to the price hike is not going to be substantial you'll probably get a bit more for your money and there will be a wide variety of options with Rison just like we saw with the first generation with rising to to really suit your your needs and your budget okay wait a minute my PC three arrows cool they submitted frozen CPU if you're watching this I would have totally hosted you guys on the show and had I caught it in time I think this is like for me like I had already got all the submissions I needed to before you tweeted but cool hit me up next time we'll be doing this probably again next week of course they have all like these nice water quick systems I like frozen CPU so do I have ordered some stuff there before oh yeah half of half of the elite build was made with parts that I bought from them but thank you very much Daniel Danny and Trevor next we've got Cody zero seven one two five dollars how to place fans in a i/o cooler on front of case assuming that your case has no limitations on where those fans can go I would say mounting them inside of the case like not directly underneath the actual front panel of the case but inside of the frame itself would be the best whether you're doing push or pull try to get them as far away from the front panel as possible to ensure that you're getting ample airflow and intake to that front area as far as push versus pull that's an age-old debate some I think I think the common consensus is that pushes more effective but there's also an equally strong argument for it doesn't really matter all that much you might be shaving off a degree or two but as long as you're well under t.j.maxx neither of that should matter it kind of just boils down to your personal preference and your you know whatever limitations are dealing with so try it out you know I mean it's an ongoing thing a build is never done try it and push first and and then after a week or two after you've monitored the temps try pull see if it makes a difference but thank you very much for the donation and the less strong storms ooh I give up would a cheap 3770k be worth it coming from a 2,500 K or should I upgrade GPU got a z77 board and a GTX 970 thanks boys love from Scotland hmm I would say if you've already got the if you've already got the board then you could do that I mean it'd still be fun those it doesn't cross-compatible I think bridge in San Dimas and a bridge for cross compatible so I would say it depends it is raining or some would say right now because you can compare these like a 3770k on its way to 500k because you can pair them right now it's like rising CPUs with 6 and 8 cores with hyper-threading and the amount of performance you get comparatively is a lot more granted you might not be able to get the same prices we're talking about used parts so it's not exactly you can't exactly say what's what with that but I would say I'd say stick with your 2500 K overclocked rod Bloo Blee adequate for you for now and it pairs well with a GTX 970 and then save up for a platform upgrade either something current gen from Intel or AMD you know yeah that would be my recommendation okay Kevin Guzman Kevin $5 how hot is too hot for hard drive and SSD new Mini ITX PC makes my drives hit 65 degrees while gaming once it hit 72 going back to a mid tower PC soon Mini ITX was a mistake that seems fine to me for drives yeah nothing 570 no red flags there that's on the warmer side they could definitely be cooler but I think drives need to get a lot warmer than that and to actually start encountering issues yeah whoa oh God talk about mechanical drives very particular yeah one Oh ten dollars thank you both for all your videos I remember learning my sandy 2500 K and 580 GTX build which I still use and I owe all the learning to you both thank you you're welcome now we're getting a much you owe us now everybody stop donating there are no we love your donations they're wonderful but but there's so there's more rolling in Cobra we're gonna cut this off after after ahi Odie's ahi o DS is the last donation I don't even see that one visits in the chat Oh turbo sauce five Canadians beginning beginner at peat building a PC and building one next week what's a good graphics card and CPU to get on a $1,500 Canadian budget building my first one next month 1500 that's like what 1100 us or something like that maybe even it even less more than that I think but okay honestly it's really really hard to say because good graphics card plus CPU mainly is gonna be questioned what the graphics card costs yeah how are you paying more than MSRP how much more what's available you're in Canada so that check out some pre builds to be on yes check out pre check out PLC's compare that very very keenly against the current GPU prices you know and and maybe consider waiting if if you really can't find a GPU that's a reasonable price yeah I have a video coming out pretty soon on NZXT T's BLD service which is their pre built service okay which is actually pretty interesting and you can get cheap use for MSRP through that nice that'll be coming very soon so keV party right six dollars and sixty six Canadian I love the show guys keep up the good work wasn't there supposed to be a 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it's the post office they're still old-school so they like slip a little Renu we'll notice into your PL box at the end of each year for you to renew the pl box and keep it so I just missed it in the last CES with Christmas New Year's I mean it's been a hell of the last two months and I'm usually not that bad but just happened to miss it this time around so guys keep sending us stuff we'll be checking it later my PA box is still in good standing he is Paul's not a fuckup like I am um i ddod $25 Paul I remember watching your videos on Newegg way back when I got started great to see you making it on your own Kyle the wife saw me watching your Disney video now we have to go this year you're on my list for a day huh JK it's expensive it is was it's like over a hundred bucks a day for one park now yeah it was uh is about a hundred bucks for for me and wife is sauce each that's crazy just to get in you know and then you got my food all that stuff but I hope you have fun it is fun if you can 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