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Hasan and this was actually a leak that they spotted from video cards dot-com where a rising 520 400 GE and a risin 320 200 GE low-power Raven Ridge apu were spotted now this is pretty much usual I mean this is real time by the same am4 platform here however we're featuring lower 35 watt TDP s so there's gonna be a little bit more low-power than as you might expect we're gonna see some lower clock speeds as well anywhere from 3 to 400 megahertz slower actually on the CPU and GPU so these are like extremely low-power very they're probably gonna be quite a bit cheaper as well than the existing ap use that just launched this week the 2400 ge is gonna have four cores and eight threads very similar to the 2400 G and with a 3.2 gigahertz base clock which is definitely a bit lower with Vega 11 graphics so you're still gonna get those 1111 GPU chorus however the GPU clock is unknown at this time and it pretty much translates the same over to the 2200 GE 4 cores 4 threads just like its rise in three counterpart that launched yesterday with a 3.2 gigahertz base Vega 8 graphics with 8 GPU cores again we do not know the GPU clock for now but just another way to tear these socketed like like a they're still a m4 mm-hmm alright and I would assume that you know I would say the 22 2400 GE is gonna be somewhere between the the pricing of the 99 and 169 for the existing GPUs because you're getting 8 8 threads I think that's some somewhat valuable so it looks like the silicon is exactly the same they're just they're shipping it with a different with different lowering clock speeds to lower it to lower the TDP yeah I mean I feel like you wouldn't be able to sell them for any different price cuz it's like if you took an existing 2200 G and under clocked it then you'd have a 2,200 GE right yeah I suppose so ok but yeah I I guess it remains to be seen we're not exactly sure what Amy's gonna do with pricing here but that is a good theory so you can get by with you know with with a much lower cooler maybe maybe that's a difference you know the Wraith stealth is what you get with the current with the 2200 G and 2400 G maybe there's an even lower end cooler than a little ship with or something or the reef and the Wraith basic the Wraith basically that shit who knows yeah we'll see that's a lot 3 to 400 megahertz slower I mean these things are probably gonna be I mean it's a it's a pretty significant drop in TDP considering that it's only 3 or 400 megahertz slower you're going from 65 watts down to 35 watts so yeah but that's on the CPU and GPU so I mean I guess that adds up that's a whole almost a gigahertz it's almost a gigahertz slower combined but it'll be interesting see those benchmarks assuming this is all true and video cards WCF tech haven't pulled one over our eyes but moving on here let's talk about the actual AP users that have already hit the market this week and this article from gamers Nexus shout out to Steve and Friends what's up guys this is a great article just kind of pointing out that you know when these aps first launched there are a lot of people reporting that they were hitting ridiculous overclocks 4.6 gigahertz thereabouts which is pretty insane but Steve writes in the article that you know they're not so they're not so sold on that idea that these are legitimate over clocks that people are seeing they think they're speculating here that this might be a result of a Windows bug a Windows tining bug specifically I don't think he was speculating oh well just saying he demonstrates in the video oh I didn't watch the video I just read the article because it was I could read it in less than 8 minutes ok but ok then the in the article he speculates in the video he confirms according to Paul so we do have a Windows sleep state or an s3 state that you can put your system in basically going to sleep and upon waking the system up you've essentially slowed down there's a bug a known Windows bug that that slows down windows time reporting so basically what that means is when you're running certain benchmarks that don't have a timing or a clock validation built in some some way to validate the timing you it actually gets confused and and runs the same benchmark in what it thinks is less amount of time which gives you a higher benchmark score and also for monitoring applications a higher readout for your clock speed and your frequency so it's pretty pretty simple explanation this was also this has also been seen in in previous previous platforms and other CPUs this is a older a.m. every bug was when Rison launched it was it was one of the known bugs with it that they've they've since patched but it apparently is currently affecting these ApS with with their current bios and driver setups seems to be a common thing with a certain AMD platforms as Steve mentioned in the article older 3 a.m. 3 boards did the same thing that you kind of trick windows into running time at half speed which would essentially double the benchmark results and I believe the frequency so something to be aware of that you know if you're expecting to get some ridiculous overclocked on these things with like a race spire around 4.6 gigahertz then the Articles that you're probably reading are not quite balanced so and the way it happens is you you have the system up and running this is what Steve dam demoed in the video you have a system up and running if you restart Windows 10 it actually does what prior what what with older operating systems you would you would classify as like a full shutdown and restart if you shut down Windows 10 it actually puts it into a more of a standby state so doing that yeah basically to induce the sleet's the sleep state then when he would reset and load up the load up the the test again and he actually ran the test and did use the timer at the same time and he showed how on the computer a minute I'm sorry on the computer a minute passes but the timer a minute and seven passes so that can the computer thinks that time is going slower right and so you know it it it completes the test faster and with the test like Cinebench which some of these reports on articles were we're talking about Senate bench doesn't double check to make sure that the time that's elapsed is actually accurate whereas other applications like 3dmark do so pop pop up an error in that case so Senate bench is like oh you were able to output you know this much work in this amount of time so you did a real good job when in fact a minute and seven had passed versus said a bench thinking a minute at best right okay yeah thanks Windows bug and thanks Steve for the frozen all the research on that also confirms that Steve can speed up and slow down time he is a time shift favorite it's the hair in video next up is somehow now worth more than IBM hey tech giant IBM that's that's quite a feat its articles from tech central but it's been sort of plastered all over the web so the the numbers came in for the current quarter and NVIDIA sort of blew way past their projections there were a lot of industry analysts were speculating around 2.4 billion a lonely 2.4 billion actually hit 2.9 billion that's a lot that's a lot more billions to be honest that's a whole half a billion that's a lot of billions and so there's some reasons to explain this other than the fact that you know they're just selling lots of GPUs to gamers gamers are still making up about 60% of invidious revenue but now this is being supplemented by the crypto miners crypto mining craze is just freakin insane and data data center operators as well as AI systems that you know are used to drive cars and things like that NVIDIA has sort of tapped into a lot of different markets besides gaming which AMD hasn't done quite as much of when you go to like you know CES for example you get really good idea of just how spread out they are Nvidia that is because you know they're like they're in the regular main show floor and they're also in the other hall where it's just all automotive like in videos everywhere they've kind of got their their hands in a bunch of different industries and they're sort of following the latest trends when it comes to computing and that's sort of what the article talks about it's like that's why they're sort of way ahead of the competition here I think Jensen you know the founder and CEO I was saying something like that's why we're you know always surprising the the the market the industry and were you know outputting 10 times the amount of a business in terms of you know graphics cards anyway as their competitor so that's all very interesting and you know they've shown revenue growth of more than 20 percent for the last seven quarters you know it's gone from quarterly sales of less than 1 billion in 2014 to approaching 3 billion probably in the next year too so that's very impressive there's more numbers in the article that that the talk about how their shares are increasing and how they're just making in general shit tons of money so it's good good job Nvidia you know ads on the back all around he's been doing well they have they've been do very well for themselves so apparently Sean wait just won the gold medal did he now yep well that surprises no one because he's the only like apart from Chloe Kim the only professional snowboarder whose name I know he's the only household like I don't know any other he didn't because he he when the gold he's a video game in bathroom he won the gold three Olympics ago and and then more Olympics ago but in Sochi he lost he didn't write he didn't I don't think even he was on the podium and but yeah he was like yeah halfway I watched last night and last night he was last night I caught someone last night it was pretty cool he did a run which was just like a really absurd like he were like these are qualifiers they're not gonna go BAE it go crazy yeah and he did a run that was just really good yeah and then two of the other competitors from one craft were they from ever get any way to other competitors and I was one dude from Japan and the other guy from I want to say Australia mm-hmm beat his his callsign score in the qualifying run so he had but you get three runs and on the last run he went and just like went nuts he did this crazy run and scored even higher than them so even though his qualifier so yeah mmm wait sorry and for any of you who aren't watching the Olympics right now thanks for watching her life show okay really maybe your dual watching you know we got two screens and my laptop screen just [Laughter] the RGB is still on the keyboard still I know it's still lit BAM hey boy this is definitely not I think chat says chat said he did back-to-back 1440s are they back-to-back related just two of them it's insane yeah first time ever I think four yep okay I'm gonna screen watch I'm gonna say he's gonna screen key Don Paul until this is back we're on YouTube now we can move on so um this actually I don't really need to talk too much about this I'll quickly go over because Paul sort of mentioned it a bit in his in his house jack this that's okay that's okay no worries let's see basically you know just to not reiterate too much here YouTube has been cracking down lately because of Logan Paul and because he's a douchebag and has been posting stupid videos offensive harmful hurtful violent videos and no one should do that and so of course you go back to that saying of one bad apple ruins the bunch and that's kind of what's happening here I also have a feeling that that's why twitch is sort of stepping up their game as well on the whole like hate speech and just hate in general you know targeting other platforms not just their own but if you're a twitch streamer and you also have a Twitter account YouTube page YouTube channel I think it's it's valid because oh definitely people shouldn't I agree people shouldn't go ahead with this feeling like oh I can do whatever the heck I want over here because I have this to fall back on like yeah exactly if you're if you're making money as a person who posts video or content of yourself on the Internet's yeah then you can't compartmentalize where you post that stuff you're still a person and yeah so so I think it makes perfect sense yeah absolutely and at the other day you know YouTube twitch I think they're really trying to protect their their brand their image what society thinks of them like when you just hear the word like when you hear the word like League of Legends I don't know how it is nowadays but I remember back in the day any time you'd mentioned League Legends so start talking about that the whole like you know consensus was like oh they have it terrible community like oh it's like so toxic to get into because everyone's just like super competitive and mean and it's like that's what they're trying to protect is like their their brand is like their reputation if they were a person so that also means you know it sort of decides what kind of advertisers are going to they're going to appeal to right and so advertisers kind of like their bread and butter you know at least for YouTube and stuff so they're trying to protect that and obviously douchebags like Logan Paul are not advertiser friendly because of the content they produce and so YouTube doesn't make any money or can't has a hard time making money off of Logan Paul or even worse has a headache because advertisers are like dude you know coca-cola had somebody like dude we put an ad on this guy's freaking video he's showing like dead bodies and tasing tased tasering rats and shit like what the what the actual fuck is this so it makes sense I'm glad YouTube's cracking down it's kind of a shame that you know you know depending on how this goes I mean I've never watched a Logan Paul video someone in chat just asked if that's normal I want to point out that I I never have I have I have watched at least maybe 1 1 and a half of his videos just to see did you watch the what the actual fuck I didn't see like the the controversial one of the dead body because it was already taken down before I could even try but I think beforehand I just come across it was probably in the suggested feed and so every once in a while I'll be like alright what is the top 1% of YouTube look like just from my own understanding of where the mainstream lies and I'm always like sort of disgusted and disappointed with what I watch I'm like holy crap if I'm ever if I ever get in like the number 1 or number 2 in the top 10 really top 20 spots on YouTube worldwide like slap me in the face I've done something clearly wrong I was going to pursue that the world has made a change and that they're now valuing content that is pure and you know wholesome and valuable oh yes helps people oh yes of course with occasional swearing that's us we could be that number one slot exactly will take Logan's place no problem remove we're moving forward progress so um you know it's interesting to see it'll be interesting to see how YouTube actually implements this if this is going to be more of a hands-on type of policing or if they're just gonna bake it into their algorithm or maybe a combination of both because the last thing I'd like to see the last thing I'd want to see is like them baked into their algorithm and then have the algorithm get even more fucked up and have other creators who aren't really posting offensive content get D monetized or get you know taken away from suggested feeds and things like that because we already have people who are getting to monetize like Brian from VPS customs or Greg from Salazar a science - do you know what I mean like this is a serious issue already I'm hoping it doesn't get worse because you know YouTube wants to crack down or whatever so I don't know it's it's good but it kind of suck it's kind of scary at the same time Oh they've been talking a lot more about actual people doing their views and that kind of thing so yeah I hope yeah I mean I think that's really what's necessary for a lot of it yeah but you know they're they're gonna try to coordinate things so that they can they can monitor stuff and they can censor stuff where necessary but that they're still spending as little money as possible and doing it right that's what they go yeah exactly I can't hire you know teams of thousands or whatever someone said level one level in text is also getting demonetized that's sad they're like the most like informative and an innocuous channel ever it's just a shame but um we'll keep a close eye on that and perhaps report on it as it becomes more as more details come to light but for now let's move on to pin my PC pimp out some of y'all pcs we got geum Franco I'm sorry if I'm butchering your name I think you might have been the donor on Pohl's half he was so thank you but he was like hey can you do put my PC so this is s following a karma and looks like oh god worth it pick up burp cigarette painful no good okay it says keep it good work by PC is inspire in various channels and both of you are a part of it too didn't have good natural light so I used a lamp it looks really good lighting for a lamp I mean are you related to Dimitri from hard-working nuts this one has gone through various changes is how I started it looks like we do have some specs here we got a 67 100k 7 an MSI GTX 1080 seahawk beautiful azrog Z 270 extreme for motherboard 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance and bloody bloody blood is ein to find C case with the 6700 K being cooled by deep cool captain 240 yes beautiful ok cool so chess pieces his appreciate the cable management shot in the back there yeah the chess pieces are a nice personalized touch yeah I think they're classy and clear plastic you know clear plastic can be not classy sometimes clear heels for example not not a fancy no chess pieces classy there you go alright you mentioned the USB strip being your cheapo part the the cable for it is standing out to me a little bit just because everything else is so clean yeah granted it's a white cable and everything so it's not terrible but that's just what is that for it's a USB strip he has a USB LED strip I'm guessing no maybe his motherboard doesn't support support that or something that looks like the receiver that looks like the actual sensor is the receiver for his control yeah so maybe it's just a plug thing and so you could tuck that away even more man you could definitely all you really need is that little that tip it's just the tip yeah just just just the tip needs to be peeking out you can you know shove away the rest of it somewhere discreet and clean it up I like the color scheme again the cable management is very nice your cable extensions look really clean and they're they're variable management very well managed and trained there's the cover on the graphics card I'm I'm trying to it's hard to see from this angle wasn't made there's a backplate cover yeah like it doesn't look like it's completely flat it doesn't look completely flat and I'm not sure if it's an actual like is it a piece that you cut out and placed there or is it actually attached to the card somehow I would recommend because that looks like that card already has a backplate on it it looks like if you really wanted to go that route I would consider removing the backplate and spray painting it white I think that would look a lot cleaner than whatever this is that you have yeah that's my opinion that are I could get some get some of Hassan's back plates v1 v1 Tech yeah yeah v1 Tech everyone said you didn't use those back plates you can custom order them from him and stuff and there's 3d printed but Jim Franco very very nice built very clean yeah I like it thanks man next up we have Mauricio boating steel he's got a course yes let's see a as rock at 90 d de 3o an AMD 6350 Black Edition motherboard Wow and a gtx 1050 TI superclocked from EVGA okay Wow okay I see an IDE cable old-school Wow alright um only two pictures to I would say most upgrading I remember this as rock branding with the 5 5 5 X fast on there I don't I don't recall what the 5 5 5 referred to again but just a throwback remember that alright um Wow a prio horizon it's my first thought upgrade what upgrade to Rison yeah because I was because like first I am like oh god that's a terrible stock cooler it's the worst one ever it's so loud but there's not the most terrible it has copper heat pipes I just mean in terms of noise that one has always the loudest to Mary led by a landslide but there's really no point in upgrading some like your CPU cooler because your CPU itself is not worth upgrading for I would just change the platform it's a really dated platform granted 6350 is that what a fork or is that like an ink core ah there's like 62 it's I always forget at any rate you're probably better off at this point going the Rison round score okay you're probably better off at this point going the rise and route to something maybe like a risin 5 I think risin 5 would probably be my sweet spot M 3 + 125 watt TDP damn on that effect you can go for a 65 watt TDP risin 5 chip like the r5 1600 for example yeah which you can is a very low barrier to entry to be honest it's a really easy way to upgrade motherboard didn't get a be 350 motherboard for a lot cheaper than an X 370 and it's still gonna be upgradeable later down the line when second gen risin comes out if you even wanted to go that route you're gonna see a lot better performance I think even with your 1050 Ti keeping that card upgrading to Rison you're probably gonna see some uplift yeah 1050 T is very very solid card there yeah um I would keep that alright so if you don't have any money to spend if you can't do a full system upgrade it's hard to tell you exactly what to do to fix up stuff because you really have some cable management issues here but you're using a case that doesn't have that many options for fixing it you'll have like an IDE cable which appears to be for like an optical drive that's got to be really old and you've got like some molex adapters going on and that kind of thing you could potentially cinch some of those down and tie them up and everything and make that look a little bit better but um honestly if your system is working for you right now don't bother and hold off until you can't afford an upgrade and then possibly look into making things look a bit a little bit prettier there get a new case that said functionally I bet your system does a perfectly adequate job for you and maybe rather than doing anything we've mentioned just get an SSD I've been an SSD would would give you some actual practical like yeah speed improvements system feel even faster thanks Mauricio CPU nasty is next you be next FX 9370 based system that's an 8 core 990 FX motherboard from MSI as well as a Radeon r9 380 4 gig graphics card 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance ddr3 memory a Samsung 850 Evo 500 gig some Meg car drives and a thousand watt 80 plus gold EVGA power supply says he's been waiting for a new graphics card which is a good idea it's the first thing that stands out to me is a graphics card looks old alright you've got two mechanical hard drives down in the bottom there which stand out to me slightly just because they're mechanical drives I don't know anything you can do to pretty those up or do paint the top of them or something like that replace them with SSDs that might help you could replace some of SSDs but the expense maybe that's expensive alright your you've got them slight mishmash of fans I don't know what this fan on the top is looks like it has clear blades it's gonna budget more seer fan yeah of course I led fan Carroll management isn't bad I mean things are mostly mostly tidy yeah just that area down at the bottom I feel like cleanup those cables a little bit maybe consider doing something to make the graph of the drives more aesthetically pleasing I guess but you know and dust your system yeah and and give it a gives a meaning some cleaning could could help things out a bit there beyond that I don't know I'm like your air flows reasonably balanced yeah okay I mean honestly if I was gonna upgrade any main components I'd probably like like the last submission from mauricio upgrade your overall platform to Rison potentially I mean you know you've got to be pulling a lot of heat with that 9370 holy crap it's got a liquid-cooled done yeah that's a 120 and I know it's far 3.0 it's probably decent enough but I just feel like it's dated old and everything looks old I mean I would upgrade here's the thing I would upgrade the CPU and motherboard and the memory before I upgraded the GPU because now is a terrible time to upgrade for GPU so yeah if that's if you were looking for some core upgrade advice I would go with the CPU first and then you know you you can you can hang with the other than r9 380 or whatever it is it's a 380 yeah three that's that's not payable you can still do some tending to gaming with that so but that would be my advice and yeah good hard drives don't look all that great get some SSDs thanks nasty all right next time is Brandon derp Bert but I'm the only 1080 g1 gaming from gigabyte a 4790k CPU 16 gigs of Ripjaws ex 2133 memory ddr3 z97 gaming 7 motherboard from MSI supernova 1000 watt power supply one terabyte crucial MX 300 SSD 3 terabyte Seagate hard drive courser h 100 i and the air 240 case from Corsair so another another 240 another 240 again with the hard drive on the bottom doesn't look all that great yeah I also also dust on the bottom lots of dust cleaning and interesting get a sound card in there here we have the always sort of controversial discussion around the not - of fans in that they're very good fans and they probably do a really good job on that you know but the aioli but they definitely are the most classy things when it comes to your color scheme spray-paint yeah I mean we consider that or just considering swapping them out for the Noctua industrial fans they have some all-black ones or some gray and black ones that are just as effective as the NFF twelves but are much better looking also take that sticker off your Ethernet yeah I was gonna say the same thing right here a little sticker on your on your iOS that can easily be removed it's it's it's reflective and there's multi-coloured and very distracting your red cable coming up here for your graphics card it's one of those egregious errors that EVGA made early on with their power supplies which is like hey let's make all these cables all red if their current colors stupid reason yeah whatever stands out doesn't look that great an extension would look better there yeah yeah might as well get one for your motherboard at the same time yeah so you could potentially as swap both of those out what do you think of the the sound card at both the graphics card I'd be very curious to to get some temporary doubts on the GPU because I wouldn't expect it to affect temperatures that too much only a degree from the backside and everything let's go connecting you could probably drop it down to one of the lower slots and give it some space and give it a little bit more air and and not have it right between your graphics card and your CPU and it would also make the GPU stand out a bit more my balance things out a little bit give it some room to shine yeah and I agree wouldn't affect your performance at all so that's a possibility there yeah there's a few things you could do here but overall really nice the consistent yeah definitely and again just one of those ones could probably use a nice dusting yeah alright thanks Brandon and then that's from the bean bean 7700 Kay and we have an EVGA gtx 980ti for the win 3 yes I know it's on the floor donto dot hall are giving you you know what for being on the floor it's actually the least dusty system we've seen in the last few minutes that's true so couse you keep it clean yes being on the floor is ok with me if you're willing to clean it off in your computer every month or two yeah sure look look so unless you just cleaned it for for this mission who knows but looks it looks like a very like it like a gets gets shit done kind of computer like definitely he's got lots of drives in here three SSDs that I can see he's got serious airflow going through here with all those Maglev fans holy crap that's great quite a few of those you know cable management seems pretty on point I think they could you know your GPU and your motherboard could benefit from sleeved extensions obviously as any any system could so obviously you don't care about staring at your computer because you've got it down on the floor down with the animals and other crap down there with things you don't care about but if you really didn't care about your computer and wanted it to look nice and wanted to look at it then I would say getting some maybe some decals or some likes of covers for your SSDs there you know you can buy stickers or whatever to put over the top of those yeah that would make those look better because they're they're kind of mish-mashed yeah and they don't match very well if you did that and put and got like a sleeved a cable kit for the power supply because you can give full replacements for that EVGA unit oh yeah that would really make it look like wow this is a this is a kitted out system done it's all blingy but other than that everything's everything is really clean and get your computer off the floor or Paul will come in to fill you in your sleep just goddamn respect holy crap and that concludes p my pc thank you guys for submitting you'll have another chance to submit next week assuming we do the show next week or the segment we do put my PC all the time ok I was meant to say a segment not the show worried we will be doing the show next week don't worry we'll probably do pin my PC as well follow me on Twitter just so you don't so you don't miss those updates but moving on here this is a another segment I guess it's a semi new segment I feel like we've already done a second just like this but I forgot the name of it I'm calling it bad company even though it says lower thirds news good news the only the only functional one I have right now that's ok this is a segment of that in Pitt my PC this is a segment as the name suggests about companies who are not acting in they're not on their best behavior there there's a bit of controversy with with companies were about to talk about starting with Google Google not honoring the warranty for their pixel phones mm-hmm from ours Ars Technica those suckers with a pixel phones will get what they deserve we both have pixels Paul yeah shit yeah I do have this is for the pixel not - pixel - this is a quarter yeah apparently the pixel there was no mention of a pixel - in the entire article this is a pixel XL affected yes yes so San Francisco law firm filed a is filing a class-action lawsuit against Google for allegedly manufacturing defects in the microphone on pixel and pixel XL handsets oh I never use a microphone I love your phone yeah you never would use a microphone look you never make phone calls you ever use a phone for phone purposes that's ridiculous most ways am I actually surprised speech that detects speech the most common for sure but this is a the firm's clients are Patricia weeks and why leaned on bar of California they both bought pixels in 2016 so this is definitely pixel one that we're talking about months afterwards just a few months they said they both said that they were experiencing defective microphones they were denied a refund or replacement by Google customer service and this was within their 1-year warranty for the Google pixel phones the compliance states dr. weeks did not know that the pixel phones have defective microphones when she bought her phone had Google disclosed the defect to her up front she would not have bought a pixel or would have paid substantially less for it sure makes sense so just the whole the whole issue here is that there was a defect within six months of buying it the warranties one year but still Google would not issue her a refund or a replacement and so here we have a class-action lawsuit the lawsuit is also claiming that you know just to iterate here Google's and breach of its own warranty which says the company well in its sole discretion and the extent permitted by law either repair your phone using newer refurbished parts replace your phone with a newer refurbished phone functionally at least equivalent to yours or accept the return of the phone in exchange for a refund of the purchase price you paid for the phone what do you think Paul do you think do you think there's any gray area here do you think it's pretty clear that you know I think if they were able to demonstrate that the that the microphone is defective and they're within warranty then Google should have replaced their phones I'm confused why Google wouldn't yeah like is Google saying no it's not defective right like what MBI be curious what their actual response was like I'm also kind of wondering how in what way the microphones defective it it's just not like not picking up everything that's being input into it because I haven't any issues and I never had any issue with my with my first pixels I saw something on this earlier today and I saw comments somewhere or something and the comment was referring to somebody who does a regular podcast or who like dials into a regular podcast with a group that all talk and whatever and there's one dude who always does it on his pixel phone pixel phone and he always sounds like crap like that was the that's pretty anecdotal I read that earlier today I don't even remember where and I wonder if that counts as a defective as a defective versus like is it just a crappy mic right like is exactly it's just not that good of a microphone maybe that's worse one of those things that you know wasn't pointed out interviews that much that was that was my one complaint with this article is I didn't really specify what kind of issues the microphone was having yeah it just was it could have been maybe like a speech thing like or maybe they were asking you know Google assistant certain commands I didn't understand they were writing that off as a defect we don't really know what kind of defect they're actually talking about here so I guess that's that's kind of important right to see you know who's sort of in the wrong but you guys sound off in the chat let us know what you think if you have any speculation any theories but we're gonna move on here our next articles from the Burge and this is about the home pod the Apple home pod yeah and the art of the title of the article is the home pod is the point of no return for Apple fans sort of meaning that you know typical apple liking to preferring to lock you into their ecosystem we're gonna be talking about that here speaker is openly hostile to any hardware and service not made by Apple which sounds pretty typical but this is actually kind of insane just how how locked in you are once you get the home pod for starters if you're if you're not familiar with this piece of tech the home pod imagine it's sort of as Apple's response to the Amazon echo or the Google home it's sort of a speaker slash home assistant voice voice controlled and stuff like that it was launched this week for three hundred and fifty dollars I think we got our Google home 450 watch you know six seven times cheaper but typical Apple once again and according to the article and several others it's only playing really nicely and fully you can only only really only take advantage fully of it with other Apple products further locking its users into the Apple ecosystem and I'll just list off a couple of examples of how just sort of how strict it is with you know and how I don't know just just how I'm trakone Ian's draconian draconian is the word that we're doing exactly the word I was thinking of voice control for example for for music playback only works fully with Apple music iTunes or iTunes Match now you can access services like Pandora or Spotify through Apple AirPlay but it's like severely limited to just play in pause commands like like it's you can't say like play Michael Jackson on Spotify and it won't pick that up you can you have to like play Michael Jackson from your phone first and then you can just say stop start or stop pause play that's very limited there unless of course you have an apple music subscription additionally you must be subscribed to to Laura actually you need an iOS device to even set it up for initial setup you need an iPhone in the house you don't know if you have Android it's kind of pointless here doesn't even have basic bluetooth streaming you can't just like Bluetooth a YouTube you can't you know you can't hmm you can't like show like a group of friends you know a YouTube video just have a place that the speakers or anything does not work like that I'm still planning to buy one I'm gonna buy three haven't deterred me one for every room in my house people will and so the article goes on to say that also the fact that it's just three hundred and fifty dollars if you're buying something like this and it relies so heavily on other Apple products to work fully then what are the chances that you're gonna switch from an iPhone to a Samsung or a Google phone in the future if you already have you know two one two or three of these things in your home I mean you know three hundred fifty bucks a pop if you're treated like a Sonos type of thing because you can obviously link all these up you're spending like potentially a grand on these in-home speakers that granite granite sound really good but at that point if you can only really use it with iPhone what happens if the next generation iPhone remove something else that you love besides the the headphone jack what if next it's like a screen there's no screen now you don't get any display on the next iPhone well sorry dude you just paid a thousand dollars in in in-home pod fees and you're probably gonna feel obligated to go with iPhone again because you don't want to miss out on that functionality that you've already made an upfront investment in so just have to trust that Apple knows what's best for you yeah that's of course what's that's the no no don't listen to Paul anyone also Apple and Google you know Google like they're playing the same game they're all trying to get into the interwoven crevices of our personal lives in every way possible with phones laptops TVs smart home integration in our cars I mean Google and Apple are competing for every aspect of our lives the difference the difference being is that Google tends to play a little bit more nicely with others you know I can I can play Spotify or I can play Pandora seamlessly from my google home with an Android or an iOS device no problem Google's Google plays nicely with others whereas Apple just seems to lock you in with they closed their doors basically to keep you in to their own ecosystem so to keep you safe Kyle it's to keep me safe yes yes protection security there's always a trade-off between security and and freedom definitely so you know apples Apple and at the end of the day though like they still have hundreds of millions of people who are gonna buy the shit oh yeah they don't they don't need like that's okay they can get all the negative press on the home pod for 350 bucks could be a total ripoff and useless and you know proven over and over and over that Google Homes a better option makes more sense they're still gonna make a killing because they just have their leveraging just a massive global audience and an user base that you know is gonna eat this shit up no matter what you do or tell them so what can you do I'm just glad that not every company approaches business in this way I'd be terrible I like having sort of mutt or like a Frankenstein of different devices from different companies that all sort of integrating work nicely together because not there's no one company in the world that does everything great you're always the best at everything you kind of need to pull from a little bit of here a little bit of that anyway you guys let me know what you think in the comments in the chat that is in our last our last article in this segment bad company comes from reddit actually it's a reddit post pointing out that the Chinese VGA manufacturer colorful guys know the mast has kind of done some plagiarism on their about page they've actually copy pasted the about page from EVGA the other VGA company and just straight up copy pasted it into their own about page they they they just replaced they just replaced their company name they didn't even bother changing the headquarter location colorful still says on their about page that they're based in Brea California doesn't oh do they remove it to say updating they removed it yes before it literally said we are based our headquarters in Brea California is a beautiful you know facility whatever the EVGA one says it was literally copy pasted verbatim I like the top the top comments yeah random intern could have taken twenty minutes to write a paragraph on the about page yeah so just copy pasting it but come on come on got a screen cap there's got to be here we go oh no I should have screen captain damnit of I was pretty shocked that they hadn't pulled it already by the time I saw the article so I figured there it is it's a little cut off but you kind of get the gist of it to give credit to ready to use it Corey one two three one two five go ahead yeah you can see there it says Brea California on the left on the bottom throughout North America yeah like it's like they could have at least copy pasted it from another Chinese VGA manufacturer to make it a little bit closer to what they're actually about but I felt like a very fitting very fitting article for Bad Company come on colorful that's hire a writer hire an American writer good lord there are plenty of them plenty of them looking for work right now geez gee whiz I agree alright alright and that's gonna conclude for my half for the most part we can go ahead and tap into some donation comments here yes all right Thank You self for deleting the other the other donations very thoughtful makes it very easy to just sift through these here so first off we've got bazinga for the tenth of a zynga X ten dollar donation kyle confession good for the soul snowboarding or wife putting you in line yes what am I missing did did you actually introduce yourself snowboarding or oh did Heather strike you or otherwise ah ha ha use you and that's why you're actually sore mmm I'm gonna I'm gonna blink twice cuz you know you know you know what that means keep it she's watching she's moderating chattering extra I can't really I'm blinking twice yeah all right thank you very much bazinga next 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definitely people ask me for dating advice all the time yep I'm sure they do until the first time I've actually respond until they take your advice yeah can't believe he's just a lost identity man it's it I'm getting a divorce that's I mean it's it's kind of an art film but I mean you have to just really inspired look watch it pop just like did you get it like did you get it just just dudes blow each other there's no sex though I know I was a hypothetical thank you pop I'm looking forward to seeing and and honey well we won't see lost identity together for Valentine's Day but we'll plan something else and maybe I'll just watch the loss identity by myself and crying a corner somewhere anyway getting off-topic bazinga x4 the five dollar donation Kyle virus strikes again wall I am a cancer upon this world thank you for reminding me bazinga Aaron Rodgers $10 I realize y'all share but whatever head also 21 by 9 monitor recommendations preferred resolution and thanks for the burp so I mean I feel like 40 by 1440 would be the resolution yeah if you can if you can claw your way up to that they tend to be more expensive but 34 40 by 1440 is just more real estate it's better as you get a lot more real estate you get a lot better like pixel density compared to the what's the 1080 version so this is 20 20 25 16 2560 by 1080 yeah you get a lot more out of that so yeah trying to get that if you don't need G sinks then you can find some some reasonable price 34 35 inch monitors but yeah that's that's what I'd say go for yep thank you very much John engine from the five bucks no comment thank you John thank you Steve Bittner five dollars no comment either thank you Steve thank you you guys are quiet speak center- five dollars Paul I got an old Wow donating $5 to me but you have to answer the question uncle with that hey that's what happened Paul I got an old 27-inch Asus Pro art would like to upgrade to a g-sync 100 megahertz plus quad HD wide q HD 4k 10 bit display I can calibrate got a recommendation g-sync hundred megahertz plus quad HD 4k ten bits I don't know you usually don't find 10 bit with high refresh rate g-sync because 10 megahertz + yeah because megahertz I just I just these aren't these aren't numbers I keep in my head as far as monitor skews cuz there's usually usually there's Asus and LG and maybe Acer and maybe BenQ and maybe Samsung and maybe a couple others so really it's a matter of taking those specs that you're looking for gisun cutter megahertz figuring out the the size that you want and then just looking at what's available with that because I have a feeling plugging in g-sync cutter megahertz + 2560 by 1440 or 4k ten bit that's gonna narrow it down a lot and do that power search yeah so and then and then within that you're gonna want to look for them for reviews on the specific monitors and that kind of thing that said since you already have an ace who's perc Pro art I do like that series and especially if you're doing and professional work they're very good color reproduction and typically they're they can be further calibrated beyond the factory calibration they have as well so consider another use / / art I guess I wish I could give you more specifics but I can't without doing internet searching yep same John hedge it's $5 donation said you guys are awesome thank you John I've been watching you since the new egg days I sent you guys a gift on your Twitter's oh thank you John that's gonna take a look at that I'm scared speaking of which I haven't even I'm scared oh yes you open that shit and they'll keep for a reason ease up thank you very much John I'll check for your gift on Twitter soon very soon next we've got Shane WF for the 10 Australian I believe sending some love from Australia I was correct Thank You Shane that is very generous of you gear seekers for the 5 Australian as well when we come out to the US for VidCon can we jump on your livestream hmm usually we prefer people to leap on our livestream no if 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yeah you will need I believe the nvidia standard right now is you can do three displays for gaming if you want to do triple display and a companion of a fourth connected that can still have stuff displayed on it but it can only do to me right now so yeah if you're talking about just a couple HD monitors then either way if you're doing three monitors at any resolution 1080 or over heaven two GPUs is definitely helpful is it really I think so that's a lot of that thing if that's what it is unless there's just a lot of packaging it's okay so one other box sent to me for mail time today by the way if you want to send me stuff it's P o box for three to five Diamond Bar California nine one seven six five and that is listed in the description for all my videos I believe tiles feel box is also listed in his description it is I don't have anything from mail for mail time today because I'm gonna get a chance to stop by my peel box but it is also in the description QR semi stuff so this is sent by Zacharias homemade candles and it's from Texas Texas homie and I think they're just candles in here the other candles well cool are they in the Genoa penises or something I don't know but that's I would expect nothing less from our viewers now here we go this is Jays two days two cents trimmers other candle trimmers why does link join me in one for tile and he sent one to Jake okay I think I think this is coming back to me now and this person asked me if they could send me stuff for me Kyle and Jay these are I think these are wick trimmers for me pile on Jay Wow and then I like seriously get into candles it does smell very good YC sauce loves candles so you've just gained some major points with her we're just burning one last night in fact they're very very well pack Wow thank you for your purchase able to get yours out I did I'm gonna open this sucker up it's in a nice little mason jar this comes with a nice little note please read quick trimming info and more it's like a whole like you know it's like it's like it's like adopting a dog trimming is important I have a whole new pet ooh sorry smell it the wifey sauce tests alright she's gonna test it oh good all right it smells very fruity so yeah this is the authentic Jace you sense one Jay I just J I just opened your candle these are soy candles i just opened Jay's candle he has a good spin mine mine has my face on it holy bubbledom which is all-natural soy wax Paul's hardware the candle inspired by the black ice car freshener scent what's the black ice car freshener good Jay got Jay got inspired by cranberry apple marmalade or marmalade and you got a girl she smells kind of like some of the deodorant to him that's kind of creepy so the candles is very important when you first burn them you have to burn the view so when you first dice it you have to make sure you let it burn for like three hours really yeah cuz that'll establish the burn pattern around the outside and you want to make sure the entire top of it gets all liquid and when you light it in the future it will burn evenly gotcha and make sure you trim the wick every time because you don't want a really long wick if she looks really long the candle the the flame will be really big and it'll burn through the it'll make more smoke and it'll burn through the wax left that make sense so far I like yours more than okay yeah good urine interesting these which are apparently candle tarts this is inspired by cranapple Spice Paul's hardware candle tarts can we eat those all natural soy wax we can't eat those we use one cubit at a time and it lasts long loaded with fragrance all right and so there was a JC since when did you find yours do you know I didn't I can those letters in here Oh even better hi L love letters and me the love letter one for J and we have to separate the J steps and so we can leave it as fun to him this is happy holidays oh this is a Christmas present this shows me how long it went since a so this is from Zechariah he says happy holidays fall of your show here's some goodies for Christmas from your pal in Texas thank you very much as a cura nice some very nice words in here from Zechariah as well signed your pal Zechariah everyone check out Zechariah so make candles I think they're all labeled with very nice very nice kind words good that's probably - that's probably mine it is what he meets ours I believe that's a bit lit candle and not a wifey sauce candle this is inspired by french vanilla and it's very vanilla oh yeah the all-natural bit with candle I like how mine says inspired by French vanilla and tile and Kyle my own candle was inspired by me and and it smells oh it's supposed to go oh oh it smells like like cookie dough or something it's vanilla no but smell it though smells like dough like and it's a double wick now we can have the smell of Paul's armpits in our home that's anytime we want that's what it is birthday thing it's like birthday cake batter right yes oh yeah that's so good amazing this one is pineapple cilantro oh yeah inspired by accent good these are some serious candles these aren't just like some bullshit candles and select candles are really nice too so there's a my wife and I like to go up to Idlewild so which is up in the mountains secure cannoneer Southern California and this place up there called the spruce moose oh can we go there we get soy candles remember when you first light him you gotta let it burn all night long this is a J's two cents raspberry jam and patchouli why does J get all the fruity ones I don't know very complex James to scents getting a scent nice nice one okay all right yeah that's all for today's show we have some Johnston's oh we got Johnston's one thing I need I believe Johnston's okay Santa Umberto from California yeah I got the beer set the glass and the opener thank you very much for mando Josue no Joseph with the CPU cooler shirt and BIOS Fletcher shirt Derek from Pennsylvania got the thumbscrew deckle Thank You Derek 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