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gonna kick things off today with some Pitt my PC we're just gonna dive right into some of the submissions that you guys have submitted and today's episode is or today's segment is really gonna be a dedication to hotline my custom water cooled PC which recently suffered a catastrophic leak and we'll be talking about that a bit more later on the show time that in everywhere now yep yep so in its honor the rape hotline inversion this is a really hot line version of hit my PC as Paul just mentioned where we only talk about custom water fold submissions so I think you guys for submitting those we'll start off with Jose Jose not Cuervo but just Jose from Twitter gray roots he's got a 77 hundred K 16 gigs of Corsair LED ddr4 a GTX 1080 founders Edition and ROG Maximus 9 and some ek water blocks in there rigid tubing look at that so he's got black I'm thinking that's black yeah it's definitely black tubing maybe got some distilled water in there cool and things up oh all right that's cool I can appreciate I can appreciate the distilled water liquid cool build much simpler when it comes to cleaning and maintenance yeah a lot less likelihood of anything growing in your loop as long as you use a little a little killer whale kill kill coil we kill coil over that's that's an option you can use the bad side stuffs that you just put some drops in there and whatever but yeah that works very very clean looking yeah the distilled water look there's also great you know like Paul said very low maintenance especially if you're if you're using the tubes themselves or colored tubes for for your aesthetic and which you know blacks definitely making a statement now what was I gonna say the black Ivan so I've seen black tubing before this is pretty much a black rigid tubing so I guess does it come black yeah why not and there you do you bend it I haven't seen much colored ptg or acrylic tubing but and I haven't gotten that far into into into watercolor you could bend it and then paint it oh I see so you're thinking maybe he's done a DIY thing here no I'm I'm pretty sure like I remember seeing like different colored rigid tubing looking for bad and I was looking for tubing and stuff for the elite build so yeah I'm fairly positive that's it just comes that way well cool should be that difficult but it definitely looks really nice and I don't really have much else to critique here I actually don't think I could teach you at all okay I have one critique and we'll move on maybe a longer reservoir tube because you have a lot of sealing room there I think you could just fill in that empty space there's a lot of empty space above your reservoir and having maybe a longer tube I don't know what would fit 200 millimeters maybe would definitely fill the case out but put some black fluid in there this impact just have the whole reservoir just completely filled with black fluid called the sewage build I don't know I haven't seen many have you seen many custom water-cooled systems with black fluid no I don't know how you'd make black fluid I think I'm sure you just throw dirt in it or something it's probably good for the loop I have to do an experiment with that maybe video maybe we will okay I'm up but thank you very much Jose next we have David not seeing David from David and Goliath but David from Twitter 7900 X at 4.9 gigahertz deleted mind you with an Asus Rampage 6 extreme 32 gigs of g.skill RGB let's tread and Z and the GTX Titan X little P very very nice wait I got some RGB action in here in a thermal take case and that very nice water block for the that motherboard is it's always really cool although I don't know why it's not lit up cuz that technically I think that water block definitely has RGB in it so I don't know went round there but I'm on the water block oh yeah yeah you should have some RGB yeah you're at the lights out or maybe it's not plugged in maybe maybe ran out of headers on your motherboard or something but looks pretty good I'm always perplexed when I see like cable extensions of a specific color or cable sleeves of a specific color with RGB lighting because it doesn't really it's not color neutral which kind of limits being or kind of clashes I guess so maybe that would be my tip I feel like with RGB white reflects obviously the most light so if you really want things to shine and and look good all around no matter what color you're changing your LEDs to I think white sleeping my cables looks looks really nice you can get some professionally done ones or you know cable mod pro cables or whatever I like this just bend over here I do tubes this exit Bend it's kind of it's a really nice workaround for this very common issue of trying to hook up that GPU fitting to the CPU block cuz they're not perfectly straight and aligned so you end up either having to like do this weird sort of like squiggle over to the left or the right a little bit it's just hard to do it which is hard with intention and and it's hard to do and even if you do it perfectly it doesn't look that great so I really like that you've kind of gone this creative route it looks a lot better I think fill up your reservoir yeah that would be that's the only critique that I would have her say you had one filter it's everything else looks really nice or maybe don't fill up the rez because maybe your systems moments away from leaking horribly and you want to have as little fluid in your system as possible well you can see he put a drain here at the bottom of the system which means he performs regular maintenance on his like a cool assistant well that's stupid who'd do that I know it's weird it's weird have terrible maintenance this will have it one of those things old systems you have it all right next up is Salle's Salazar yeah this is Greek science studio whitey Greg from Salazar science studio sorry at least Salazar studio but he's been working with the the new Liam Lee 0:11 dynamic case and he's a he's actually taking a pretty serious stab at reviewing this case I think with actually putting a custom loop in it Granite's just the secret but he's going the extra mile here and I really like the all-white theme he has done a I mean why won't your white build in the past I believe that was very nice as well why would you even bother to watch like the hardware connects review on this case right watch Greg's review where he did an actual water cold goes ah doubt Greg's idea will have this much porn hardware porn as Hardware connexes but you know III suggest watching both videos when you can no you can't watch both choose one or the other I mean who's gonna watch two videos in the same case everyone who's gonna watch two videos on second gen Rison with service Co life everyone ever obviously that's a very important topic that lots of people have a lot of interests is an important case this is this is an important case because it's a code developed and co-designed by with a de Brouwer yeah roman professional mocker yeah and then Jordan if you guys haven't seen it and I I didn't happen to watch the hardware connects your view on this case I couldn't watch Gregg's because he hasn't made his video yet because he's doing the water cool build in it yeah but he will have a video on it yeah what the water-cooled built but Dimitri was very very complimentary of the case they did it you did a good job mm-hmm and this build was looking pretty sweet you know what I like this yeah I was gonna say just I mean the orange accents on the on the graphics card is the only thing that I I mean it's it's all way build so it's the only color accents you know he I don't know why he didn't include an angled like a 45-degree angle but if you look at the RAM close-up it also has orange Jack's like the Rams are in Jackson's okay then it's alright yeah if that's the accent color feel the build in fact right and I do agree with you though that even though the the RAM and the GPU have some orange accents and I think just like a sliver of orange in the cable sleeving what a bit would have made it like oh you know and but the back and forth um but it's incredibly clean I love the bends the bends are great the bend closer to us looks a little bit less extreme than the one behind it but it's a very minor gripe if I have to point out anything they're not saying and the the tube that's closer to us it looks like it has a more gradual Bend and the one behind it has a more aggressiveness gentle this is a tighter a tighter ninety there yes a tighter ninety okay so that I mean if I'm being nitpicky but overall this is it looks perfectly straight both cubes are perfectly straight and drag you gotta redo this scrap the whole thing Rize the whole bill shoots really and off of your desk until it just becomes like humming yeah I agree with with Kyle that's the only thing that's it's looking this it's really hard to do critiques with this with this addition yeah of tip my PCB grace everything's looking so clean and nice very nice diggin it alright let's move on to JQ j qu once again I'm not gonna have much to say about this one other than another Lili case this is the V 3000 been out for a while now in 1950 ex I love that this is a thread rebelled 64 gigs of DDR 4 with a Titan XP yeah SLI to emetic lighting holy crap and he's got a Sound Blaster AE v sound card in there which is obviously the highlight of this bill where I it's not just below they just belittle the bottom card down here okay yeah but holy cool what I can't yeah it is definitely tactics no image I still don't understand why on Twitter sometimes you can right click and view image and other times you cannot it's like this I think it's because this is - right it's two pictures yeah but whatever are you talking to zoom yeah well when I can when I can view the image like this yeah just the image then I can I can make him rice - and zoom in on and stuff do you have actual zoom if you want to do man that's it that's a really cool build very you got a dual loop is it they're separate right I don't know they're there there it is all the same table some one loop part of the same loop but you've got dual pumps and do dual reservoirs yeah it's pretty nice lots of details here like I can tell the reservoir caps have been put out in such a way that the labels are facing forward it's a nice little detail mmm looks like we have an inline perhaps that is a temperature temperature gauge right there that that's that's good to have and also something yeah and there's something below it - dad hey yeah I don't know what that is no no oh yeah you can see in the other picture that it also has the temperature readout one yeah there I guess oh I wonder what what brand makes that I'm not sure but this is a very very excess PC block well done system I like to sleeping a lot yeah again this is there's no words make all the fans led then it'll be perfect yeah needs more rainbow RGB lighting it's not lit enough all right okay moving on Brian oh we get more is our good buddy and pal Brian from VPS custom we're doing this one first and he showed me this rig private he privately deemed me because I'm special yeah with a picture of the system and I almost came out of my office what case is to tell my wife case is so impressive it looks like a case limbs case a damn there are no bends here believe it or not everything is just a straight tube that he's cut to size and used angled fittings to get where he wants to be but it still looks I really like the look of systems that do that it's like cheating it is kind of like cheating but I don't mind it because it looks so good I'm just kidding when it's done it's nice it's usually Martino's for you that's it because you know each of these fittings we gonna cost you five ten bucks yeah if that probably maybe more eight eight to twelve depends are you buying anything but damn I really like the 2-tone going on here the red and white how you kind of alternated the fans and similarly sort of like the the sleeting matches perfectly I like the dual reservoir side by side I think that's a really unique look those heat killer reservoirs holy crap like with the bars on each side like it just sort of gives it more of a straight and angular design than like the very conventional cylinder I think that kind of looks cool and different and I believe he's using pretty much of you coolant in here yeah I think so so hopefully it's not for long-term use as we've seen that's doesn't end well but very very nice build Brian I'm sure whatever client you're building this for us would be very happy almost sweet then it's for him look it's got his logo on it Oh perhaps it is then I'm very jealous why would you would you not build it for you hey wait it's true well done brain all right and then finally we have rag rag with this oh yeah system here oh the rarity rarity build great is the rarity build we already done um so obviously this is my little pony rarity everyone's favorite character from the show of my personal favorite maybe we shouldn't we shouldn't admit to any of this let's see I had to google both Paul and I had to google what this character was we have no prior knowledge of my little pony or any of the characters in it my little brownie I'm more of a I'm more of a Dora the Explorer kind of guy and then hold on shoot what because I think that I know the name oven oh oh yeah that is one yeah that's that's coincidence that's coincidence it's the same it is yeah okay Heather wifey sauce went as the for Halloween that's probably remember that yeah all right so it's true and it's trying to pull off a smooth like I'm more of a Shutterfly I had the name right now oh you can totally nail it totally nailed it there's severity though obviously yeah obviously a popular and this build is incredibly detailed and just so well thought out I love the reservoir and like the cutout pattern around it it just looks so MLP as chris is also pretty much feel views UV sky-blue coolant yep very popular right now so hot right now that loves the SSD covers damn and the GPU backplate obviously looks great I love how you spray-painted the ek waterblock they definitely don't come in white like that and the other end end cap there and yeah and then the the fluid choice I think is just perfect I I wouldn't have thought like that the purple and the blue would match so well together but then when I see a little figurine you have there it it just it's perfect so um no real complaints here you even have like purple panels in the ceiling of your system you've got a white panel at the rear yeah I like the cadets on the reservoir - yeah it's cool right oh wow you scared me here oh he licked my arm oh well he's just I just felt like this white or wet slimy thing on my arm I thought I was getting attacked by like that poisonous frog lens that's wet and slimy wet and slimy like it should be in the ocean but still can breathe and exist on land probably a frog right it's a quick it felt like baby it's really introduction if you felt like an amphibious attack that's all I'm saying okay oh it's okay Deb all right Cheers toast Oh 12% so we'll sip it slowly huh all right that concludes pin my piece do you thank you guys so much for submitting those beautiful custom looped systems but let's move on to our next segment next segment which is just as educational as in my piece yeah today face off pollen I have your flames in a while but this is where we go head-to-head in an online two-player game that's usually amazing I don't even think your systems gonna be able to run this game because the graphics are so good it's a pretty intense game yeah and tried to get it loaded up before the show just to make sure everything would go smoothly cuz you don't want to be saw in our show as always he had to overclock his his 18 core system just just to run this game properly okay so the game is called curve fever fever year you'll be red so do left for you okay right okay this is B green yep the premise is very simple but the game is incredibly complex the mechanism is game play mechanics are just space revolutionary are you ready should turn music could be on yeah sure oh yeah oh yeah this is composed by Hans Zimmer Hans Zimmer does the soundtrack to this game all right space to continue I'm green you all right I'm green oh I'm red you're red I'm green okay what is this powerup thing oh geez I don't know that makes me go slower okay is that good or bad I have no idea there's gaps that appear every so often so this actually this is kind of reminding me of a snake or slither snake yes but also there's the game called sliver that's kind of like this no cause this is kind of like slither if you'd say oh I'm this trot over trot you this time yeah it's definitely Tron but beware even the music is kind of Trani next time you may not fit oh wait I'm flat now oh my god I like ate something oh geez and now I'm can I can I eat this time no I guess wait oh oh I know you made me fat oh no oh no oh that was garbage oh maybe our second I died not you you die die die oh it's best to do it sure yeah let's do that all right it's business to continue okay yes we go this is epic what is that lightning dude mark my words guys in like three months you're gonna see this in like a flurry eSports event this game will be oh my god the best I like being a fast bet so oh my god I'm losing myself your fishing rod happened in slow motion right so this one's for all the apples Oh too much pressure all the apples and shitman Baba's it's too much pressure oh man oh come on come on I see what you're trying to do there I don't know what this does but I'm getting it ah no why it's blue I'm going backwards oh you got a powerup that made me go backwards so my left was right shoot that was away I wouldn't know that power just did well see what I could come back should practice the game more than you Paul before we played well that was a very sorry hit rousing round of a face up I say very short lived my reign was quick so alright so um my punishment backstory here that my wife picked these up and thought it would be funny to make us wear them these are green tea face masks is a face mask sheet it's a mess sheet supposed to live for 20 minutes but we're gonna do ten for Kyle it's a skin purifying and in case you're wondering there's two of them so it's I mean I'm gonna end up doing the other one on my half no once we get to there yeah I feel like should we have paper towel or something maybe that goopy it's a little okay it's goopy so I'm gonna get a paper towel all that but maybe maybe that's a good point maybe I'm supposed to absorb all the juices with my face oh oh why did people what why is this really gonna make my face feel that much better where I'm like I'm glad I put this on my face for 20 minutes worth it this is very it's very like delicate maybe some paper towels trying not to there's a green tea face mask okay oh I see I was gonna read what it does but it's it's in Chinese or Korean I believe it's Korean because oh you know there's an imagery you've never seen any American people directions tear open and apply it to face leave on for 20 to 30 minutes and then remove for external use only avoid contact with eyes okay really you're literally putting it directly over your eyes razor so that's so helpful that they I'm so scared right know that keep out of reach of children discontinue of signs of irritation and or rash appear oh look like MF DOOM but there's no explanation on here select Iron Man's nothing on here that tells me like what benefit this actually does oh yeah that's is this right I think you need to attach it more empire oh yeah I've got a press it down in certain places yeah especially over your on just press it right into your eyes under the cornea it's cold you're tough set into the into the wastebasket okay well this is fun let's set the timer for 10 minutes okay please please start it now I don't have a timer Lucha Libre yes I'm gonna drive home like this oh yeah I'm just gonna like and just awkwardly stare at the person next to me like hello then we want 10 minutes it doesn't really stick to them at the lower half of my face because of my facial hair oh that's that's they should fix that somehow I've never used the windows timer should keep that usually it's helpful it's they they made they they're like oh smart phones can do really simple useful easy things we haven't bothered to get put in there we should that too so I have a timer set just down there in the corner okay and now we can move on to news right really quick the important thing though whether or not they can still drink beer with the mask on Oh God also I guess if you have facial hair like it's not really what I was saying I wasn't paying attention yeah the lower half of my face was a little bit loose but that's okay I'm gonna roll with it alright my hair will feel amazing after this all right oh good so now you can regale us my story of okay what is it hotline hotline yeah so I'll just I'll just tell you guys kind of what happened you through it even though I just uploaded a video on this exact thing to floatplane that's on floor play it'll hit YouTube in about a week but um basically did you do an Instagram story I did how do you look at that I don't I don't know if you can water Instagram stories from a desktop on Instagram too and I couldn't it's definitely on it like mobile I watched it today I actually saved it and downloaded today no save it's my phone that's fancy uh antsy I could oh you know what it's in my you know I could just forward it to you right now and you could play it on the screen no why why the hell not hotline Update has been shot it doesn't look like hotline has been repaired in this hotline update no I have not touched or I have not booted up or disassembled it or really touched you or filled with it much since the incident video where you said there's like and you're like this sucks ya know that's exactly this happened to me exactly what the video was and that's that's what people just want to see people just want to hear you bitch and moan about hear about this catastrophe so this the segment that we're gonna do right now is really quick it's very impromptu it's just like talking about the biggest your worst tech tech Astra fee ever that's tekken catastrophe merged together I'm a genius so mine tech tech test Rafi tech tech I put tech Astra fee but test your feet could work too no tech Astrakhan tat oh yeah take a stress test or tech tester being ticked Astra fee tech caste Rafi - Rafi so sounds more tactile I agree like chai MX blues or Browns cuz they've the bump um it's more titillating so let's let's talk about tech test Rafi hotline this is Eileen this a goop oh yeah that's the worst picture that's it we're out of almond I mean there's really not much to say I walked into my room Friday night or Saturday night and just there's just a puddle of pink shit on the carpet it was terrible it was like ah that's like that's the other real issue is like my carpet is fucked and there's pink fluid all over the place so I walked in i saw it was like no I look up expecting to just see like the leak coming from like one specific area yeah right like oh maybe it's just one fitting and it just happened to find its way to the floor but no fluid was everywhere this isn't staged and this is like I even wiped a little bit up this is mostly for ya it was probably like at least three quarters maybe a little bit more full and it's a big reservoir and it was completely drained when I walked in the system was still on because I usually leave my system on even when I'm afk and so the pump was dry running the pump was just dry running making this awful noise I'm like oh just crime-scene investigation I immediately pulled the plug it's funny cuz like dry running a pump sounds similar to like dry humping like like if you dry hump and fill your raw oh it has a similar like it gives me the similar like that alluding to that gives me this similar kind of yeah as dry running the pumps that is an association but I would not have made without your help Paul Holmes thank you for putting that okay mental image in my mind but no like it it was very traumatic it was traumatizing I pulled the plug and it seemed to be running fine like it was at the windows lock screen dry-humping that's what I call driving that term can be applied to either one lots of time pumping lots of chafing involved with with the dry pumping and yeah it turned out to be that fitting right there the one that's on top of the terminal this one it was loose no the the GPU terminal of this one yeah the one to the left of it I think this one yes because when I started like messing with the fittings I came to that one and it was really it was a much it was much looser than the others and the tube that it's connected to was actually like half in and half out like it didn't quite go all the way into the o-ring it didn't go quite past the o-ring which explains why it was just like squirting out from all directions in all directions and and getting everywhere now so have you you said you haven't taken this apart at all no I haven't but the plan is is to do that and clean everything to a tee and then rebuild it and then test it to make sure everything's running cuz that because I have a theory here what when when did you build this two years ago about have you ever maybe a little have you ever flushed it mmm once I flushed it once when in that time that was about midway between when I first built it and today and when you flushed it did you actually take the blocks apart and stuff like the CPU block and anything I did not take the actual blocks apart No okay no right there cuz my theory here is that your your if your blocks are clogged enough then it's then this pressure pressure building up yeah so if you've got a fitting that's loose then the pressure building up there's gonna be cause it costs yeah exacerbated but it's a very good it's a very good lesson it is to for for you know doing that regular cleaning now I think this could easily have happened to me when I first cleaned out our fan third last year like it was in bad shape yeah but it's just one of those things like I haven't I haven't run water-cooled systems along like for an extended period that long like that was the first system that really done it was right time can slip away and suddenly it's like yeah but yeah it's it's a very it's a very like you have to commit yourself to maintaining it and like flushing it regularly because it's such an invisible problem like it's not things can be building up under the surface and you'll never see it so it's very easy to just ignore it and be like well it's working fine right now it's probably fine yeah but but clearly it does you know that's one of the one of the cons I guess you could say of custom water cooling it does require a lot more maintenance and regular checkups and things like that servicing so lesson learned hopefully knock on wood and in the follow-up video when I actually clean everything up and and test it that there's no lost hardware or at least very little wear and you got to look at the positive side here which is that you know all the people who see this who have water-cooled systems like should I be doing this to mine like yeah Diana's hot box Nana system I need to I need to I need to maintenance that one it's a good yeah damn good it hasn't been running all the time so I don't think will be too bad but I sure it definitely needs it and yeah anyone else who is inspired by this traumatic experience mm-hmm perhaps will also do the same yep alright uh what are we what are you doing um we can we wanted to check new seconds do it this is a pretty interesting article this is from WCC F Tech and it's about Asus revealing officially announcing their new Ares Radeon series of graphics cards this is big news because this sort of relates to GPP and also kind of further indicates that GPP is a real thing essentially asus is moving all of their Radeon cards away from the ROG brand and creating this new Ares line of cards for those AMD GPUs now Ares they are es is an existing family line that came out years and years ago from from Asus yes it is but this is Ares with a Z at the end instead of it s true and Z is a different letter a different letter than s totally different brand and apparently there's really no relation other than you know Asus is just paying some homage to its older family of of high-end GPUs now this looks like a radically different design to the Strix model actually does not looks very similar actually that looks so it's actually a good point that you bring up Paul is that really the branding apparently is the only thing to really be changed here all the features of ROG are still gonna get ported over to ares and you're really not gonna see me according to the article lots of performance going you know going from an ROG card to an Ares card it's simply a branding thing which is what Cal from OCP specified in his initial article that was one of invidious requirements that the primary the primary gaming brand of your company blingy blingy oh is that ten minutes already that is 10 minutes ago Wow the timer is up okay unless you want to leave it on through the full 20 you know what let's go for the full 20 grand for the full time yeah looking old rollin with it brother let's handle it just make sure you put another two minutes under otherwise I'll be wearing it all night yeah yeah um but yeah that was one of the requirements and one of the big requirements for the GPP is that Adam board partners for example could had to reserve their top-of-the-line or their main gaming brand for nvidia cards solely so this actually answers I mean this this box art here answers a big question that I had which is what about they could put the word gaming on that and I can which apparently they can mm-hmm so that tempers my reaction somewhat I mean if they really were trying to keep them from saying gaming on these fucker and AMD brand very messed up this is still I still kind of disagree with this like I'd rather that Nvidia didn't do whatever gpp is doing that guy is causing this diversion or whatever it I mean it could be a lot worse now there's another name out there that you have to explain that now now your now your new friends who come in who are like I want to get into gaming you're like oh we can get this Ares this Asus Ares Radeon rx Vegas 64 right Andy and you're like hope they'd like that you're like like what where did he get this asus rog Strix GTX 1080i with an NVIDIA GPU like Everett like like there's four brand names now yeah in those two different cards yep with with a a wild card of Strix the yeah like they still got Strix on both of them yep you notice that unifying brand-name and so yeah it's it's kind of interesting and and you you said that you know this kind of tempers your concerns a little bit but we have to keep in mind also that this is just a soos right there's still MSI gigabyte we don't know exactly how they're gonna approach the GPP in fact we kind of do already because MSI has not unlike Asus they haven't really created like a specific like cool sounding gaming brand for their Radeon based GPUs instead they've just kind of at least for now just remove the word gaming from their cars so that's where is way different than what this is which so if if the sub brand has the word gaming if MSI's sub-brand like RG arguably does Republic of gamers but whatever MSI the brand is the MSI gaming whatever then that does mean that don't be able to be applied to AMD cards yes that's weird just just how it matters so much based on how these Adam board partners have branded their cards before GPP existed right now all of a sudden that's actually making a huge difference in how they're branding it with GPP and following those is it hard to take me seriously with this mask on I mean honestly I wasn't really looking at you very much just continue not looking at and everything will be easier oh my god I look like fucking Jason like terrible I think you're gonna have such a good skin but just on this part here like quite getting out to the bridge of your nose this I think that's an important oh yeah I've been trying to work on my nose bridge parted recently it's part of the t-zone I know that now okay you want make a piano less so any of any final other than will keep a close eye on this and report to you guys directly if any updates come to light all the new skews let's move on to the next segment or sorry story Facebook this really quick Facebook admits to trekking non-users this is something that the zuc mr. Zuckerberg admitted to in his hearing last week the court of justice and shit he was saying that Facebook is tracking non users of the site even if you're not a facebook member you're not signed up with their platform that you might still have data in the facebook database which is kind of concerning to a lot of people obviously for good reason there's a blog post that was posted recently by Facebook that offers a bit more details on on tracking non users specifically David baser who's the product manager director at our product management director at Facebook excuse me said that when someone visits a site or an app that simply uses facebook services like social plugins facebook login facebook advertising which is everywhere the site or app owner doesn't know if visitors a Facebook user or not and so it sends all of their info or whatever info they can gather from them to the company to Facebook even if you're logged out of Facebook or you don't even have a Facebook account so yeah I mean Oh virtually everyone is affected by this because how many people go to like how many websites have you ever been to that had like the option to log in with your Facebook account I never do that so many I never do it either I never do it either but just the fact that you visit sites that offer that option means that if even if you're not a Facebook user your data could still be and very well it is in their database which is kind of concerning there's also like a brand a type of company whose sole purpose is to do data collection online and match visitors to websites with actual names and addresses so if you on a website and you get someone on your website you might not have much data about them you might only have like an IP address or something like that but matching that with an actual person so you can continue to advertise to them that's that's the type of company there's smaller companies but that's what this type of thing reminds me of because yeah obviously building building out the databases of the databases of information about people that you can use to mine the data to advertise more accurately is basically how it's how it's done these days yep and yet Facebook continues to to to claims that they do not sell data and that's not what they're about and despite them saying or suggesting that users have control over their data the blog post that they posted recently does not say how to view or delete your data from Facebook they just say yeah we're tracking you guys but sorry we're not gonna give you access to that and you won't know how to delete it now Zuckerberg did mention that there was a download your data option on the website and he said that you could just do that just download your data then you can wipe it but that data doesn't include everything apparently according to the article when you go into Facebook they still have other shit on you that isn't in that location so I just I guess it just stands to reason that if you if you really could delete all of your data how would how would Facebook sell it which is which is probably why they're keeping keeping some reserved I don't know I mean I mean we kind of do know we kind of do know that Facebook is selling data and maybe it's a little bit complicated and there's some gray areas involved but you know they can deny it all they want it definitely seems they're guilty of a little bit when I was a kid I was wanted like just disappear and like fall off the off the radar you know yeah have like an alias no one knows who I am which being visible like that was always very cool and mysterious to me but I feel like now that's it's really hard to be Amish and live in like a forest that doesn't have a name yeah you need to have parents that were kind enough to like completely cut you off from all connection to the internet and write and that sort of thing you gotta be like the characters in the village the parents do night Shyamalan parents poster you face on Instagram and every other social media like the Saran you pop out of the yeah out of your mom's yeah oh yeah right that's the thing it's like even it even when you're an adult even if you hate Facebook and you never go online you kill the Internet the people around you in your life most likely you're on all the time they're traitors they've fucking given up your data yeah send you off to the Terminator this is a lost it's a losing battle it's all right no it's not a losing battle card because we are here and we're discussing it and that is helping people know circles from guru 3d it's about is it twenty minutes up yet I feel like my skin is we're gotta you got a minute and twenty three okay you're sure the time we're still working it's still good twenty to thirty minutes so don't worry about going over it I feel like my flesh is being burnt off it's good it's actually tingling it feels like it's just out - like like when I remove the mask you'll just see my muscle peel your face up to see my underlying muscles blood blood will be everywhere look like when they feel still great when they open the arc and then what is this computer part you're getting cheaper your heart's getting cheaper I figured I would sprinkle some good nog all y'all because Ram prices are fucked up GPU prices are fucked up but NAND flash heyo apparently we're having a bit of an oversupply here is q1 of 2018 so prices should theoretically drop down a little bit in the coming months which is exciting however demand will increase during second half 2018 further keepsies and obviously we've got Black Friday and holidays and stuff which might switch back to tight supply so get them while they're hot people if you can find an SSD right now some NAND flash device that is cheap cheaper than usual I might want to pull the trigger on that sooner than later before shit goes back up some manufacturers have responded to the the trends this year and lower supply we move up to a 500 gig standard stay effect 500 snares Oh Kyle hold on I have sustained Kyle over the 20 memories mask I thought oh don't do that more slowly what happened there's like weird things in my mouth that's friends of beans from the beer okay I was like do I have herpes like coz in the mouth region there's like little brown areas on the corners and it's from the beer thank god this one the beer okay it's just the beer beyond that I mean you look you look kind of glassy do I yeah I feel blah see there's a piece of it still oh Jesus can I hang up can I give it do you have any paper towel yeah that's not this it's not already wet it's like a wet why don't you just dip this in some water is dip this instead of buying those masks tell your wife to dip this in some soapy water and just smack it on her face it's all you really knows exactly this thing is exactly the same thing but then you have two individual oh here oh don't do that I just saw them put a corner on his head okay Wow everything's fine as well as the camera's not shifting around we're all good people can't see this cute puppy face he's so you all right anyway man's chief man's getting cheaper that way for long see take advantage okay here for five hundred and twelve hundred bucks on a bucks that's for the Patriot ignite which isn't exactly the lowest and fastest but I'm mush can source hey what 500 gig class SSM please buck down and the hundred one hundred and twenty dollar range said that is looking that is looking pretty good Wow MX 500 500 gig $423 it's pretty solid that is really good right you you were having to pay you were having to pay a hundred plus four for a 250 gig Yeah right about a year ago a couple months ago monster yeah so cool six months yeah well that's good that's good all right let's move on to Tom's Hardware article about Intel documents hinting at an eight-core coffee like CPU some redditor spotted a reference in on the Intel website - a coffee like CPU with eight cores and integrated graphics chip you can see the screen shot there for confirmation it says copy like s eight plus two oh this could confirm rumors of an 8-core consumer-level chip or edit link from intel potentially based on these e 390 chipset when it launches which is likely a confirmed chipset as e 390 indicates that the chipset wouldn't how many videos does Tom's Hardware play when I try to go their website goddammit Oh God god damn it go away this oh there's a big X they put the X right in the middle where the play button would be so all the places you're looking for the X aren't there you got me that time you got me that time Tom server it was scale of one to tweek town how bad are the ads on Tom's they're pretty Greektown I think we can point fine close okay so Z Z the Z 390 chipset is still eight would still be a 300 series chipset which is allegedly only reserved for 8th gen Coffee Lake so the success of this eight core successor if it does exist might still be eight in each gen coffee like CPU just using sort of you know revamped parts z 390 may still support ninth gens windows come around we'll probably just see if 400-series chipset fully optimized for ninth gen and and the night gen ships would be backwards compatible was e 390 for example so this so this potential new Intel chipset Z 390 to get the potential new Intel 8 core main stream processors do you need the Z 390 chipset motherboard is that yes yes you need I mean that's what I would guess but it doesn't say specifically in the article but it would be a hell of a way to try to sell and push the Z 390 chipset it would be a very Intel white rye to sell and push the z3 yes it would be incredibly intelligent so just to clarify when finally faced with competition from AMD on the mainstream platform which Intel a bit sitting on quad core processors since late 2008 they finally jumped to 6 core and forced people into a new chipset that it was not even fully realized the Z 370 chipset which has now been supplanted by hh-60 whatever that whatever the stupid cheap zucchini yeah yeah those new chipsets that came out what you're like oh we have USB 3.1 and like 802 that 11ac but like oh the the Z 370 that came out last year doesn't yeah so you had to upgrade your motherboard to get from four to six cores and now you're gonna need an upgrade your motherboard and your motherboard again to go from six to eight cores if you really want that on the mainstream platform yeah or you could have just gotten the next 299 I guess but those are reasonably priced yeah okay AMD's mechanical sure real bad offering backwards compatibility with Verizon second gen it's it the business models that AMD in the marketing models that AMD have are completely different than than Intel's and it's really starting to show it has time now they'd like to poke Intel they do in the bracele so that people get pissed off about yeah totally I would take I would do like the rise like the rising to stuff they're like hey here's here's a big slide in our presentation that's all about how we have a soldered Emily we're like we're soldering yeah I just yeah rather than using some crappy cheap thimble that makes a complete new sub market for deleting products yep like yeah that market only exists because your product sucks yeah so just some degree yeah no that's totally true so competition is good so yeah its competition is great don't get us wrong but um who knows we could be seeing an eight-core coffee like CPU coming to replace the or succeed the 8700 k as the new 8th gen flagship potentially paired with a Z 390 chipset that which would really be shitty because then you'd still have to buy a 400 series chipset once ninth gen comes around it's just until it's just mmm they're scrambling I think this is again I feel like it's so crazy this is a good sword fight topic like yeah what should Intel have done right what should they have done all right so so Andy blindsides maybe they're blindsided whatever they've had five years to prep point being AMD camp comes out last year and kind of like actually presents them with some competition they're like oh crap we can either rush out our coffee like stuff get it out early at least be able to say we have this six core processor the 8700 K and and all that kind of stuff but it's really rushed and it's not really complete platform and all that kind of stuff or should they have just like conceded to AMD that segment of the market for people who were looking for stuff beyond with the 7,700 cake and offer and waited and sell now or I feel like maybe a month or two ago if if they were devoting all of their resources to a launch like they just did a week or two ago yeah like waited for that and and and pushed it all out at once yeah I'm just had no you know nosy 370 chipset at all or no zz3 90 chipset just whatever that is one chipset right that supports the six core and the eight core yeah and all the modern features and everything I don't know I guess it's a it's hard to say it's a difficult question as like we we critique them but there's there's there's people in the business ranks and Intel who have to make these decisions right well they're not gonna you know I have to imagine that they're like like people aren't gonna like this right like that we're gonna get some pushback yeah but you know they have to make a decision one way or another so anyway that would've been a good sort of a topic yeah but it's not it's not part of its not so what could have been all right but let's move on because we were running short on time here oh yeah yeah Rison Mobile has apparently apparently been throttling this is a youtuber from privilege that I found on reddit tech epiphany heck Epiphany he was noting on his laptop here with a horizon 2200 G or 2200 you risin three that trying to play for tonight he was experiencing some some really weak performance here his GPU core clock speed was lower than expected should be up to one point one gigahertz but here it is at like 5 600 megahertz if that and the CPU that he's using isn't really fully utilized either which means that the chip still has some Headroom there power wise to drive the GPU higher it's not like they're you know the the power delivery is maxing out on the GPU there's still a lot of headroom here he was trying to figure out why isn't my GPU clocking up higher and he kind of found this weird little quirk to the system by unplugging the laptop at some point he unplugged the laptop and by unplugging the laptop it actually puts it the system into a lower power state okay and because of that it clocks down the CPU to like from 2.2 gigahertz ish to 1.6 and it instantly drives the GPU up to like 800 megahertz okay which yeah it's just tapped it right there so it actually goes from anyways like a 30 to 40 percent performance uplift going from like 25 to 35 fps which is still not super playable not super comfortable it's definitely more playable than 25 chop chop but the point here is is that Rison the the Raven Ridge mobile is throttling at the moment or rise I shouldn't say Raven Ridge rate rise in mobile is throttling and AMD has not really kind of ironed this out yet so what already is doing for this overlay right here that mmm might be speed has that I think it's I think it's the FPS oh well maybe you're right or perhaps frame times but it could be frame time I'm wondering if that's part of rivatuner rivatuner I haven't seen that I haven't seen that yet anyway he did see had a pretty decent suggestion saying that you know it'd be cool if AMD released like a rise in mobile horizon mobile master master software that would allow users to sort of set priority to either the GP or the CPU based on application specific needs but you know this is just an ice this could be an isolated incident this is one guy on YouTube with a laptop doesn't mean that if you're experiencing the same issue with a different model of laptop that his solution is gonna work for you but it's something to be aware of and definitely a something that we hope that AMD picks up on and addresses because that is a pretty huge performance difference and obviously it's not ideal to run a game on a laptop without AC power because I pretty quickly so I just want to point that out so you're aware I have not had the privilege of checking out rising mobile yet personally neither have I but that that's something that I want I want to check out soon finally let's move on to our last topic here which is about Intel offloading virus scanning - its GPUs to improve performance and battery life this is from the verge Intel is gonna let virus scanners use its integrated graphics chipset to scan for malicious attacks scanners typically use the CPU which means since the resources are getting eaten up left and right but this method that Intel's now sort of sort of pushing is gonna have a reduced impact on performance and power consumption especially you know if you have a laptop or something like that early testing from Intel shows CPU utilization dropped from 20% during the virus scan to as little as two percent and Intel threat detection technology will arrive on 6th 7th and 8th gen Intel processors so a variety of devices will be getting this type of support which is very exciting Intel's partnering with Microsoft initially with a change coming to Windows Defender advanced threat protection they're also working with other antivirus vendors to make this beneficial change at a silicon level and you know after the whole recent Spectre Spectre debacle that Intel's been facing they're trying to really beef up their security but also make sure that their security features do not compromise the performance of their systems as a lot of these Spectre related updates have done in a lot of cases so Intel's now very cautious about the whole situation CEO Brian krzanich cuz thank good maybe we should maybe we should call our friend Curtis maybe we should call our friend from ltte to clarify brain crucifixes last name for us they seem to be the same Department really good at pronouncing it yes I'm sure he is as we bring these new products to market ensuring that they deliver the performance improvements people expect from us is critical so you know there's kind of a two-faced challenge there security without compromising performance is sort of a top priority for Intel right now but those are all the stories I have let's talk about some donations donations all right bazinga $20 thank you very much sorry about your extended Friday the 13th yes that was a very harrowing weekend and I appreciate your your your your thoughts and prayers going out to hotline and I indubitably delta actual $5 hey guys I'm about to go get dinner but I want to say hey and I want all the info on Ares have a good stream consider the info delivered yep mission accomplished yeah NB 67 thirteen dollars and 37 cents as always Kyle rip hotline don't say rip just yet because it might not be ripped it might still be totally fine I'm optimistic at this point thanks Andy I'm looking forward to it me too crazy gamer TV $20.00 I just got back into your videos and then finally wanting to get into PC building love all your videos and I'm glad and getting back into your channel I'm glad you're getting back into my channel - thank you crazy gamer TV I'm always happy to inspire a fellow enthusiast bazinga x5 bow is what the fuck Kyle computer leak flat tire and now no glasses that is the ultimate catastrophe of this week they say a fan contacts seven threes and Rios and this was definitely the there it is there it is there it is I'm sorry address wire wrap 10 Canadian sup guys Kyle rip hotline but on a positive note I would like to share that I won a used 6600 K in an eBay auction only 70 bucks whoo $90 with shipping and import fees just have to wait and hope it works that's actually a really good deal yeah that's a sexy text little seats that's like a 35 70 K goes for nowadays I mean yes and you're still we're still in the ballpark to get solid like used z170 or z2 70 motherboards to go along with it so nice pick up not too far out of production geocache or $5 the British pound zips recently while walking over in town a pigeon flew straight at me I punched it right in the face just thought I'd shit with you guys Wow Thank You geocachers you should wear a GoPro all the time I know that we can see that through your next time through your depiction of that experience I felt like I lived it with you yeah and I punched that pigeon and I feel really guilty for living it to know I'm satisfied for me I'm just as a nice crunch poor pigeon Thank You geocacher thomas Byram $4.99 which is technically one cent under the limit for actually us reading your comment so we're not gonna read your comment nope we've got Novus 77 386 with the $5 I need a mini ITX motherboard with Wi-Fi for my rise in 1600 bill there's not many options the gigabyte gets a gigabyte one yeah really solid board yep very good for overclocking if the board they're sending out with Rison with Vegas stuff and perfectly adequate for their eyes into stuff as well so that's a good board yeah you know but 77386 $5 tomorrow's my birthday should I celebrate by putting my hard-earned cash into a new rig thinking AMD this time or the Lego UCS Millennium Falcon the rig yeah the piece you gotta go for the rig's gonna do so much more and it can be pretty too like the the Millennium Falcon yeah don't love it the Lego a little bit like a millenium foam it's really cool do the PC first and then save up for the phone I would get I did priorities you guys $20 I don't always get better results when overclocking I think it's a lack of voltage when a higher clock CPU with inadequate voltage performed worse than a lower clock CPU with good voltage like a bad 5.0 versus a good 4.9 with a higher clock CPU with an adequate voltage so the voltage should really matter yeah the voltage might matter it matter for the long-term life of the CPU if you're overclocking and running it at a higher voltage than it's actually built for frequency is all that should matter so a higher clock CPU at a lower voltage as long as it's actually running that clock speed and it's not throttling or anything like that should perform better than the lower clock CPU we have more voltage right and in my in my experience and I've done this a few times trying to get a bit of an overclock and a lower voltage than stock is something I've done before because that can mean that you run at lower temperatures and your fans can just like never have to bother spinning it for anything so them yeah it's a nice thing to do anyway pop shepherd $10 yr ddr4 timing so hi my ddr3 g.skill kit is 777 21 with XMP at 1333 I'm building an x2 9 system for my video editing parts are finalized what is your experience with the 10 core I 970 900 X I feel like if there's a one question and then there's another question my experience with that chip is very limited in fact I've only streamed with it once in the recent the last stream that we did at my place yeah was it seventy nine hundred X and that's like the first I've really used it it's a it's a very solid it's very good very powerful processor and so I feel like it's kind of overpriced compared to what you can get for some of that from some of the AMD platforms but if you have the chip it's a really good processor it's 10 or an X 299 is a very solid platform and when you're comparing ddr3 to ddr4 it's you can't exactly compare the timings one to another you have to you have to imagine that the timings are a factor so a timing like a seven seven seven whatever like that's that's that's gonna be castle I can see and like raster cast and a few other things in there and that's how many clock cycles seven clock cycles before it can do that function right so you're talking about timings of seven seven seven twenty one with a with a speed of 1333 so that's 13 33 megahertz 1333 cycles per second so that the timings execute at the frequency right so when you go to ddr4 you're suddenly you're operating weight operating at a higher frequency timings being higher don't necessarily mean that they're slower you have to do math for each specific timing and frequency in order to actually get like the the actual throughput or bandwidth or what I was breaking word is like probably not remembering properly right now but yeah it's it's it's confusing going one to the other but just don't just don't compare ddr3 to ddr4 or ddr3 don't one-to-one do it's not a one-to-one interaction about timings for sure thanks but NIC five dollars and fifty five cents what you recommend what would you recommend as a good gaming desk I'm looking for something L shaped and can support my massive full tower case on top with two 27 inch monitors I went to Ikea and just built two desks and made an L shape kind of like Paul did and that works yeah perfectly fine my desk set up here often imitated never duplicated is basically IKEA not desktops but countertops you can buy countertops that I at IKEA in preset sizes and I like these because they're actually all solid wood it's not like like you get the desktops and it's like a bunch of cardboard inside with a veneer on top yes is actually all wood right or you can get cheaper ones it's at least like a particle board inside with the wood veneer on the outside too which is which is also just fine yeah but I find that like I like doing that you buy it buy the tops by the legs you can get them separately and that way you can buy them to the size you want them to be yeah and then kind of build it out yourself if you're interested on my channel go to my channel and look at my garage work logs playlists and and I have when I when I set these desks up and all that stuff was good times I'm gonna get more beautiful all right go for it up north Ranger $5.00 Mini ITX build with Verizon 5 1600 X is the Strix be 350 worth it over a be 350 n purchase the ladder but I'm thinking return I mean RGB audio jacks am i right I don't know if RGB audio jacks would be the the reason why I would RMA something they're very cool but let's see I don't know the ab3 fits 8350 M that's the gigabyte board I think right what Paul and I were just saying great things about that board in fact I just recently did a Raven Ridge build in a super tiny case doesn't even have like expansion slots or anything for a discrete GPU and I use that board and it's a great board it's got Wi-Fi MDOT to nvme color scheme is obviously black and red but it's not gonna matter too much because there are many many I TX cases that that have a window for you to look at the colors anyway um I don't know if the RGB audio jacks with that important to you then do it because it's a personal thing that's objective but I personally would be very happy with maybe 30 n okay have you done no happy we are happy sup fellas five dollars just here to show some love to side a choose from I have a thanks know that they appreciate a 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after heretic turncoat we will cut it off there he'll be the last donation fires are twenty six five dollars I messed up and threw away the back on my motherboard is there a way to get a new one you'll have to ask the vendor that you bought the motherboard from yeah go extra for that they might not sell it on their store but they could just do you a solid and send you one anyway if they're cool heretic turncoat $10 are you still here is bid noria you have a smaller bed that's your size going on one she doesn't care she wants the big one heroes too nice and and and just was like whatever I'll just take Nori's look at him he's like going don't worry I got this one it's mine and then Ori just like her back oh well now that you're all nestled in I'm over it now that you're nestled in I'm over it that's very this is a very typical everyday it's everyday with these two days of events here okay and finally heretic turncoat $10 shop and take my money our favorite comment ever attached to a 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