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only manufacturer to have top Samsung when it comes to the nvme MDOT two game is Samsung because now they have the 970 series and these things are even faster than the last generation let's talk is it is it coincidence that so so you're right like the 960 Pro has maintains yeah it's like if you want the fastest time to nvme drive that's what you get but just recently I think in the pet within the past month we talked about Western Digital right coming out with their WD black which well not quite as fast as the 960 was in the ballpark yes pretty close right it definitely didn't de thrown it but it made for a very competitive alternate and it was I believe it was cheaper yes so is there any ways to performer there any correlation between the WD Jack Black Drive coming out and then suddenly Samsung's like oh we got the 970 now I feel like that I feel like that WD black drive came out way too soon for the nine 70s to just pop up okay I feel like for a big company like Samsung they've probably been working on the 970 ever since the 960s released so so I think I think this has definitely been you know it's not like a rushed launch or anything that we've seen from like intel on their cpu say that would make sense unless you're like me and you believe that Samsung has just had this lined up and they've just been sitting on it they're like once we have competition we'll go ahead and launch yeah that could be sitting on it you know if they're head of the market then what's what's really the point you know they have no need to launch a new product if they're still number one so that's a fair argument as well maybe they were already in development but the 970 was already ready ready to go but their finger was on the trigger waiting for some slight competition to roll in or pulling it to clarify I have zero basis in fact or or he works for Samsung anything for saying any of that stuff Paul works for samsung part time I just do I just do often think it's interesting when you see competing products and the timing of the launch of certain ones it's all it's all a game it really is all a chess game when it comes to these manufacturers I mean we can't really really because we don't really our business model doesn't surround products and selling products to a consumer base it's like content which is different when you play the game of chess you win or you it's very intense Paul it's Game of Thrones this is good very intense for SSD talk though uh so what's new with this these SSDs you get a new phoenix controller same one that's been found in samsung's current client SSD and their enterprise SSD the PM nine eight one and PM ninety three respectively which probably no real gamer is gonna be interested in but the same powerful controller is built into these that was not available in the last gen nine sixty drives the speeds have also been improved the 970 pro is is pretty crazy it's got thirty five hundred megabytes per second sequential reads and twenty seven hundred megabytes per second sequential writes the p the the the 70 Evo the 970 Evo has the same read speeds as the 970 pro but has only slightly lower sequential write speeds at 2500 so that's pretty good bargain up to 30% higher sequential writes than the last generation of drives ha 5-year warranty or up to 12 hundred terabytes written which is 50 times higher than the last generation so the write endurance of these of these drives has been much improved according to the spec sheet and they will be available up to one terabyte for the 970 Pro and up to two terabyte for the 970 Evo which is interesting because the 970 Pro I'm sorry the 960 Pro last generation pro series of nvme drives was available in two terabytes I stuck two of them in the end through elite build that I did last year but now they've sort of switched the role so if you want the higher capacity drive you're gonna be looking at the 970 Evo not the pro pros only going up to one terabyte it's now and you can get that one terabyte 970 Pro for 629 dollars and the two terabyte 97 evo for a whopping eight hundred and forty nine dollars which is forty three cents per gigabyte not the highest cost per gigabyte we've seen but that is still significantly more than what a mechanical drive cost you I was I know pass I was gonna point actually to the lowest skew on this stack very reasonable turn in 50 gig 970 Evo four hundred and twenty bucks very reasonable I mean that puts the matrix a 250 gig range SSD will cost you eighty to ninety yeah that's only another thirty dollar premium over that to get yourself like one of the fastest nvme drives out there right I see this being a popular core like operating system drive forward I'm sure you'll definitely see these drives popping up in future builds from both Paul and I but these are gonna be available May 7th so keep your eyes out for those let's move on to our next article for which is from hex is stunned that AMD has added some new AP use to their lineup including the rise in three 2200 GE and the rise in 520 400 G II which basically is the same type of parts that we've seen already released except it's got a e at the end there's advertising tie-in with General Electric no this has nothing to do with that brand GE your name no Paul it's the same old G they bring good things to life the G stands for great and the e stands for efficiency great if no I don't know oh well the e yes but the G I just made I pulled out in my ass he does stand for efficiency yes that's what it says in the article the e suffix stands for efficiency so these are lower TDP chips than their than their counterparts which is just the G SKU the non e scue rise in 320 200 G and rise in 520 400 G ap use that launched earlier this year just a month or two ago so these are based on the same ap use with slightly lower clock speeds there's been some silicon Billy binning too in order to achieve that 35 watt TDP versus 65 watt on the counterparts rise in 320 200 G e sports four cores no SMT so no threat and not more than any four threads which is for course doesn't have eight threads or anything 3.2 thank you very much 3.2 gigahertz base 3.6 gigahertz boost as opposed to 3.5 and 3.7 on the non e scue with with the same Vega 8 GPU running 8 cores at 1100 megahertz and then the risin 5 2400 GE has 4 cores and 8 threads very much like the resin 5 2400 G non e scue slightly lower clock speeds as I mentioned 3.2 gigahertz phase 3 point 8 gigahertz boost that's let's see that is 0.4 gigahertz that's 400 megahertz slower on the base clock than the non e scue and just 100 megahertz slower for that that turbo boost there they got 11 graphics with 11 cores running at 1250 that's the same speed the GPU is running at the same speed as the non e 2400 G so price and availability is TBD but these are officially on the map they're on the grid this has been reported on AMD zone website so these are real chips that are that are coming soon I will be seeing these probably bundled with you know with with I don't know with some kind of cooler I would imagine race fire rate stealth and yeah new IP use probably probably Wraith stealth for being a 35 watt TDP chip for sure so um so basically same specs as the 2200 G and 2400 G but lower frequencies in order to hit the lower TDP of 35 watts yep okay mmm-hmm imagine those might be useful for some people yeah maybe some small form-factor HT pcs that don't really have the room in them for for a decent cooler maybe you can only get away with like a 45 millimeter tall cooler or something like that I was gonna suggest actually what I will probably be using a risin apu for soon which is a one of basically oh it's great you've always had great taste and effort but for a PC versus for a FreeNAS server that was there are rise in motherboards that support ECC memory mm-hmm and so it's a very viable lower cost solution for something like a freenas server true so my question would be when these new lower TDP CPUs will I mean the other thing it's like you could buy at 2,200 G or 2400 G and underclock it and get effectively the same thing these are just shipping from the manufacturer with with those speeds enabled right so there you go but um yeah I'm actually I will be doing a FreeNAS builds nice-nice I'll probably be doing a server build soon to will see Intel crimson Canyon Nook has been spotted in benchmarks and photos also faxes sorry photos and details have been linked by german website win future and twitter user tongue api sak also benchmarked one of these guys the crimson Canyon nooks will be first of their kind to use the Canon Lake EU processors but even more cool but also be the first nooks to have it just screech GPU which is something I've been waiting for for a long time yeah believe it or not it'll have a Radeon 550 mobile GPU with two gigs of gddr5 yeah isn't that cool now obviously this won't compete with something like the Hades Canyon that just came out featuring a core i7 processor and bacon graphics but it will be much much more affordable than Hades Canyon and it'll still make hopefully for a decent HTPC slash light gaming system in a super small form-factor the great thing about the Knux is you can literally place them anywhere they're very tiny they're so tiny they're literally this looks to be maintaining this very tiny form factor it's almost smaller kyle has one I just couldn't resist having one just right here this is how small a nook is and and you can literally place it behind your monitor mount it there it actually does come with a bracket I believe if you want to like mount it more securely and they're also very serviceable so you can get in there and you know swap out your memory put in an end to nvme SSD if you so choose which is very cool very very very cool little devices and you know they're starting to get more advanced this one has USB 3.1 type C it's fancy remember the yeah first nexus the yellow I believe that I do that might be three point one and that's three oh really I I could be wrong I'm not sure exactly what the yellow indicates but but they're nice little nice little systems they're just so compact it's like there's really a difficult it's it's hard to argue building like a budget small PC for your parents versus when that's available something like this yeah yeah and I really like the fact that you can buy them either kit it out or completely bare bones if you want to add your own stuff super not even have some upgrade ability and flexibility and stuff yep moving on we've got the MSI mag pylon chassis so Emma sighs making cases now holy crap ha and not just cases for their pre-built systems that we've seen in the past but these are just like standalone jassi's for the gaming community these are released under their gaming deer line which is the first I've heard of it the magpie LAN is four high there's two cases here the magpie LAN for the high end class and the mag bunker for the more budget oriented users so first talking about the high end magpie lon we've got three four millimeter thick tempered glass panels on the front left and right of the case so triple tempered glass fits up to eat I'm sorry ATX motherboards with dual three and a half inch or Dule two and a half inch drive bays 45 litres Kyle forty five liters imagine how much Soda you could fill this case with I don't have to imagine Paul I already know that it's exactly forty five liters but if you're buying two litres though you'll be stuck with an extra liter of soda to keep in mind that will probably come up in their reviews yeah okay so got three front mystic light configurable RGB fans which our motherboard supported yay RGB fans are always great I'm wondering if these are kind of like om fans and Emma size just slap their branding on or if they actually made these fans and house I'm very curious about that I have low expectations me too magnetic dust filters of course vertical GPU support law and then the mag bunker for budget oriented system users there's no integrated fans on this one there's no RGB there's only a front and left tempered glass a side panel so there's no front panel I'm sorry there's no right panel that might have been in the corner of shame that they did not care to include but there's only a single 120 millimeter non RGB fan at the rear no pricing or availability is is listed for these cases I don't think they look bad at least from first glance at least the mag pylon which is the only case that we they're really showing us right now but from what the article says the case and frame itself is very similar so I don't think the mag bunker looks much different than the mag pylon apart from like the included fans and the tempered glass panel on the right so there's mag bunker right there the bokor yeah so you can see it's just it's kind of like add your own fans type of thing which I think a lot of users go for these days right fans have guns have come so far with RGB and all that that fans are a very personal thing that people you know are very particular about now so yeah you know go for the bunker if you don't care about the right side panel having glass it's probably not a big deal for most people save some money there so yeah MSI cases I mean you know what's weird did you see any pictures of the actual internal layout like without the side panel remove just this 45 we just that which is still kind of hard to see it looks like they've got two rows of rubber grommets which is cool for cable management I guess well but why the second row on the right if it's only supporting ATX motherboards that ATX boards gonna stop before that first row of first column of grommets you're right kind of just interesting like these grommets are useless right I'm just wondering why I've never seen that in a case that only supports ATX boards so you know and and then hey you got vertical GPU support vertical GPU support I'm hoping that it's further back away from the tempered glass side panel and not just like right up against it it kind of defeats the purpose it looks like it does include the adapter and riser card riser cable alright it's interesting well MSI they make cases now you make cases MSI world renowned case manufacturer that's definitely news for today moving on though to our last article for hot and heavy hardware cryo rig has released their c7 copper cooler this article from tech report now I remember checking out the copper line of coolers from cry rig at last year's Computex being pretty impressed and also very curious just to see how these would perform apparently they've replaced their original c7 heatsink with all copper material so obviously copper is more heat conductive than aluminum which is what their their regular model is using and so that can potentially give you up to a 15% thermal performance increase over the standard version according to cryo 15% better thermal performance compared to its own standard copper sorry standard aluminum c7 model you still get 4 6 millimeter wide heat pipes there's a low profile heatsink and when I went when I saw the Cryer igloo tonight when I went to the Craig booth at last year's CES like I'm sorry last year's copy text they had not just the c7 but they have like all their big yeah the colors the h7 they all have like copper versions of them but I think the c7 particularly makes a lot of sense to go full copper because anyone purchasing a c7 most likely has very limited Z space in their case for a CPU cooler which means you can't just add more fins you can't just add more heat pipes to the equation when you're limited on space the one thing that you can change and have control over is the material as you use for the thermal dissipation so if you're using copper instead you can maintain the same slim size very short size height Z height of this cooler still fit it into like you know an end case or something like that but have greater cooling potential to potentially fit in a higher-end CPU so I'm very curious to see how this thing performs if the 15% acclaim is accurate I think this is definitely worth testing I'll keep my eye on this guy and and of course there is a price premium here right using copper materials is gonna be a lot more expensive even on a 57 thin array like this one then say an aluminum equivalent so we're actually jumping from the original c7 width which was $30 MSRP to now $50 50 it's quite a bit more for a such a slim profile but you know what right now mini ITX like super small tiny mini ITX small form-factor builds are all the rage and more specifically small form-factor but high performance systems are increasingly popular so I think this is a niche product it's a very niche product but it's a niche product that doesn't have many alternatives so I'm very curious to see how this works out and supports aim for and 11 c11 5xu you look you listed quite a few reasons why this is a good starter product for Craig with their copper series I have a couple additions to that okay but not from the perspective of use case but from the manufacturing perspective because what your whatever but what it really boils down to here is that a metal like copper costs a lot more money and this is actually something that I've mentioned once or twice before I'm not sure in what context but if you go back to the mid 2000s like 2005 2006 2007 there was a trends that came about with graphic skirts which was graphics cards went from being single slot GPUs to double slot they realized like oh let's just use another slot and make the cooling solutions a lot beefier in order to accommodate GPUs that output a lot more heats but they started just throwing copper into that if you look at the whole heat sinks yeah the entire heat sink all the fins was all made of copper if you look at like old radeon HD like 58 70s and stuff like that um you can see these old designs where it's like a red PCB and they're just a massive copper like there's heat pipes and there's a heatsink and like over everything and then in 2008 the global economy collapsed and the price of precious metals like gold like the things that have sort of less elastic pricing that went way up because those suddenly became some of the most viable things that you could invest money into so the global economy affected the design of stuff like heat sinks for graphics cards and suddenly you went from all copper designs to like alright let's put a copper contact plate and everything else aluminium a much cheaper metal so sure my thought all that makes my thought about this be like alright this is the smallest CPU cooler that Craig makes so if they want to test the waters and be like alright are people willing to pay extra for this because that's really what it boils down to this is 20 bucks more than the aluminum are people willing to pay more for the additional heat dissipation that this is going to provide and is you know are we going to be able to charge enough money more enough dollars more for these coolers that will account for the increased cost of the copper that they have to pay for right because there's a base bill of materials cost for the copper so from the business perspective this cooler also makes a lot of sense because they're able to put this on the market with a fairly minimal investment when it comes to the amount of copper that they actually is a smaller heatsink they're more feasible forever just wanted to throw that out there and no one's gonna like by an h7 for like a hundred dollars right if it's all copper probably not as good as it might be no one's gonna pay you know be like how well do they cool compared to like the not the high-end noctua coolers cuz that's always the standard yeah if you can somehow outperform outperforming 10 HD 15 then you'll probably have on the map you'll probably have some people interested in your cooler true but nice III and I do imagine like you said for small form-factor builds this would probably be pretty useful and I'd like to put an 8700 can or this thing and see how it does I'd probably get pretty toasty but I'm sure it would do its best just for the walls okay all right let's move on to our next segment which is pimp my PC you guys have submitted pictures and specs of your beautiful rigs or maybe not so beautiful rigs and are anxiously awaiting Paul and I to tell you what you've done wrong how to rectify and redeem yourselves for the bad horrible PC builders you are know probably you're probably just fine but we can help you out a little bit and get things up to speed if your dilapidated systems first off first time we've got that guru guru that grew with a bunny with chainsaw is very very hazardous profile picture there NZXT s340 with a risin 2,700 X like that we have a nice second gen resin ship already here yeah and this belt is a new-build asus x 40 for 70 F 16 gigs of Corsair RGB 36 hundred megahertz samsung 960 Evo 250 gig for the boot a couple of the drives there and an asus r9 380 x OC gonna do more upgrades when the new GPUs come out good know um alright guru let's see very clean cable management is on point obviously some custom sleeves cables would do you favors in that department but the black looks fine black looks fine but if you a little bit a little bit I'm just saying I would take the sticker off of my SSD and just make that SanDisk drive blend in completely with the basement all black oh yeah okay oh yeah I would definitely go that route um I really like the Corsair fans of the front the right white trim maybe employ one of those at the rear place that stock NZXT fan there good balance things a bit balance things out bit I want to say whatever whatever you know whatever wire this is right here is standing out to me oh wow I didn't know coming out across the heatsink and I don't know where it's going this might be this might be the wire from this rear exhaust fan just being routed over here to plug into a fan hitter that's down oh I see and I see that cable on the right above the fan I think that's from the Wraiths prism you sure it could be either way you don't see that cable what's that cable from I think this is the fan cable coming up going back and then being brought out back here to plug into a fan head of the static oh I see you think it's going back around because it I think the Wraiths prism just has this one plug coming out right here maybe you're right but I I could be wrong about that either way this cable is just standing out a little bit to me tuck that away somewhere you know you can tuck it where the where the fan cable is from your wraith prism you see how you kind of can put it right between their consoles together the baton sinks but but really minor critiques this is a very clean-looking builds and I don't think there's a whole lot more that could be done here without you know new hardware and you have new hardware so don't worry about it you're you're good right well done yeah okay thanks guru others we have Tim mr. Tim Tim okay you 71 our debut case the EVGA x2 99 dark motherboard and I 970 900 X running at 4.6 gigahertz an ek supremacy Evo X 99 waterblock he can't 420 C radiator 32 gigs of course I avenged selfie X 24 hundred megahertz ram to EVGA 1080 TI for the win three hybrids sli graphics cards to one terabyte samsung evil 850 SSDs the two terabyte Seagate Barracuda hard drive and a 1200 watt EVGA supernova power supply alright wow wow I read all those specs before looking at the picture I'm kind of glad I did I I would start by making your bed but that your bed just looks so messy where's the bed right oh the bed over here yeah I mean you have any like sheets on there like there's blankets like all I'm a good couch then you you need to make your calnet shirt alright okay but based on the PC what do you think in Paul first impressions okay okay so your your liquid tubing runs are kind of tortured that's that's that's what I'm seeing here cabling actually looks pretty good if we're just looking at the cabling like you're 24-pin you got some nice clean cables coming up here for your for your graphics power but we have flexible tubing not only in the hybrid GPUs which I'm completely aware this is probably the only viable place that you could put these at least to have any any sense of symmetry I mean you could have put one on the rear exhaust here maybe but that might be awkward those seem very stretched to me and then the the clear tubing for the CPU going through there is is just visually it's not working for me at all just not yeah I'm with you on that functionally functionally again you could probably have a really cool and quiet running system here which which you can put the side panel on and not look at and be perfectly happy with the best way to solve this is hard line yeah go hard line hard line yeah because then you'll be able to actually plan out the runs whereas the flexible tubing from where everything's placed that if you weren't changing the location of anything like your reservoir or your radiator the only real way to make things look a lot cleaner would be or the best way to look make it look cleaner would be to do some hard line runs and obviously you have to get some new fittings for that if that's an investment that you're willing to make I think you could do wonders for your system and get it looking like almost like a show rig because it has a lot of potential you know you've got an SLI configuration it's it's pretty beefy and stuff everything else is really clean except for the for the water cooling runs that's the one thing that I would change and also it's interesting that you have the fans for your GPU radiators set to intake it set to intake and he also removed the labels on them I'd be curious to see what kind of temps you'd get if you flip the fans and made them exhaust it might not affect much but I think it'd be worth a try yeah yeah it could I just don't know how well how good the ventilation is on the other side of those radiators to be pulling air in from do you know what I mean like do you have do you usually leave the back side panel off is that the thing is that the factor that I'm missing is that you usually just don't have the right side panel on and so that I mean the fans are able to intake air more efficiently if if he modded like an air filter or something over there then that might be a really practical solution so assuming he modded the side panel yeah yeah so but nothing indicates that he did so Jim Tim I think what it comes down to for me is you just you have some aesthetic stuff here that really just doesn't work out but you also probably have a very functional system so if if it's at all important to you where looks are concerned and you have a few hundred extra bucks lying around then maybe some of our suggestions would help someone saying that you that you can get intake or exhaust out of the right side of that case which okay I still haven't really pinpointed what case this is but if people in cheddar or vouching for the fact that you can still have some ventilation on the right side then maybe you're fine with the fans actually I think they I think the rear the rear view of this what the cable management is actually the but I think the best look for to your side right this is yeah it looks beautiful this is really well done back here yeah very clean with all that stuff going on and everything yeah case is this does he list it out there will take view 71 yeah all right Tim I don't feel like we've either made your day or like we've sent you into the next essential crisis or something hopefully we've given you the push you need to venture into hardline the hardline world are lying or no hardline what can you do with these hybrids though like there's nothing that can be done about those hybrids but I'm removing the blocks in a different case and yeah I don't know well yeah Tim you have a beastly build and I'm sure it's insanely powerful so yeah well done there next up Jimmy I 546 MBK with the Corsair H 100 I and asrock fatalities z97 ex killer Corsair Vengeance Pro 16 gigs and some jurors with a see sonic 500 if you want power supply go with the red and black theme here first thing I noticed is that your GPU is in a isn't the bottom slot which might is probably an X 8 slot so it probably won't cost you much in terms of performance but thermally I feel like your fans are being pushed against that power supply basement a bit more than if your card was in the top by 16 slot and I don't see why why it couldn't be installed in that top slot I would probably put it in that top slot better air flow so there are able to receive here from the front intake fans yes something going on up here I can't tell what it is yeah he's got a couple cards there there's a couple by one by four cards that no they're not these are these are like expansion cards or something because they're not actually plugged into PCI Oh Lots oh you're you're right so this is these are just connected these might be part of the killer board does the killer board have like extra USB or some type of i/o slots that you can put down here I wouldn't think I'm really not sure what could they possibly be for yeah I mean it's a z9 z 97 fatality words if they're not plugged in to those slots then couldn't he like that that's even more reason for him to put the GPU up top yeah right yeah so if you can reposition these further down yeah they've got some cables going to them wherever they're plugging into or just get rid of them if they're not necessary he's like definitely move that graphics card up to this upper slot it's it's a better position for it it's better thermally if there's any performance difference it's probably pretty minimal like Cal said you're probably running it by eight in this lower slot but yeah give her so it gives that graphics card a bit more oh all the best opportunity that it had it can have is to do its best yeah it's working the hardest out of all the components in there yeah besides a CPU maybe but beyond that you got an a pretty clean red and black scheme remember those old NZXT LED strips or whatever you want to call them I had like the LED every every couple inches or whatever oh yeah but it was like a sleeved cable I will say maybe remove your label from a power supply and then I also say our supply I'm sorry from the SSD yeah remove the label from the SSD and then this powered by C Sonic sticker or case back here is it's doing nothing for me not match and really I would remove that as well I mean fixed those the few things though very slight adjustments and you'll have a much cleaner looking system I think overall I agree very nice Jimmy thank you very much you've got a lot of the base components that you need to clean things up so yeah you're in good shape next we've got Nate it's super panda MSI 970 gaming FX 6200 H 115 eye and r9 390 from XFX with an antique 900 gaming case oh no I'm sorry antique method of getting power supply with a Rio Toro Oh CR 1280 case reviewed last time on awesome hardware if you're pimping it out but let's make this even more awesome okay um the clear stripper fans have to go got the stripper fans up here stripper fans are a no-go wait we already reviewed this one this does look vaguely familiar did we what he said it we reviewed last time I don't know if then should be not so talk about it this does look vaguely familiar right right vaguely familiar i alright twist twist eNOS of the tubing here for the Aleman cooler oh yeah now that you mentioned they have the twist eNOS you've got some cable extensions that look fairly clean for the 24 pin but not quite as good for the 8 pin up here it looks like it's pinched at the top for some reason a few straight cables coming from the the cooler here as well as this USB one that's just kind of trailing on down through that area that doesn't look that nice finding a way to reroute that would be a good a good idea same thing for the fan cable down here and get matching extensions to go for your graphics card as well as the motherboard power supply cable extensions and finally get a memory that matches that's red rather than blue and yes and you'll be in better shape I agree with everything Paul said yay thanks Nate mmm grinning and don't I figured out how to do the open image and new tab thing I'm so happy about that beautiful my PCI 747 90 MSI Aero ITX GTX 1070 16 gigs of Crucial Ballistix sport gigabyte z97 gaming 7 motherboard um so it's like you've got a black and red theme going on here I would remove the power supply sticker cuz that never looks all that great and you've also got a stock intel cooler I'm not sure if you were planning to replace that in the future but I would definitely look into upgrading that because I'll be cooler it'll be quieter and it'll look nicer it's like a really easy upgrade that'll improve three huge pillars of your system like how there's two pictures that are just slightly off angles like these are the two pictures that encase it in case you have a head head tilt now here's here's a situation where like I don't want to tell you to go and sell your graphics card because graphics cards are really overpriced right now and sell your graphics card but this is an ITX graphics card in a full-size case oh yeah that's a huge case so if you got a good deal on it at the time or something like that like no blame at all it's fine you got a functional graphics card but you all I'm saying is you've got a lot more space here you could deal with a larger cooler and possibly a graphics card maybe even have the same exact GPU basis as this one but that's just better cool there could overclock a little bit more or something like that right but I will only bother with something like that if you can get something that's the same price sure so yeah phocion beyond that everything Cal said yep all right I'm right the two pictures thanks ready ken ken finally we have Ken with a real box I 770 700 kg T X 1080 32 gigs of Ripjaws for 480 gig intel 540's SSD gigabyte z2 70 XP sli motherboard it rips anything well it's a UFO at user benchmark calm LOL alright looks like we've got a fractal design our for maybe an hour 5 with that big owl not to it kula um obviously the nock to a cooler is the gets the short stick here in terms of with that aesthetics because of that fan but there's not much you can do about that other than maybe well repainting or replacing the fan there is and there is stuff that could be done with a knock to a fairness stuff that could be done like for instance get a black knock this fan you've got you've got two fans and yeah I'm just realizing this this fan is not the stock fan that came with this no no this one 40s yeah that looks like he must have put it somewhere else or looks like a 120 that's been wedged under there somehow that's interesting yeah point being both of these fans have been rotated to such an angle that their cables are coming out at the top and on the outer point right here you could rotate these yeah maybe the green to the back of the case the cables coming out at the back and that will help you hide or tuck back behind this cable grommet much of this ugly cable length here also then just seems to be a general lack of pulling back of loose cables that notion of top left and we've got some more examples back here I mean these cables are going where they need to go they're just they're not really tied down or that kind of thing very much right so that's pretty much needed across the entire build I would also remove that whole drive cage that has four empty drive here you can do that just so that you have yeah just so you have a little bit more airflow going to your your card yep it's good yeah everything else looks pretty solid so yeah well done Ken thank you Ken and thus concludes hit my PC thank you to everyone who submitted today let's move on to some general tech news starting with some asshole smugglers who used drones ingeniously to sneak eighty million dollars worth of phones into China well isn't this interesting this is from and gadget and 2620 this is a big operation 26 suspects were arrested 26 people were arrested for using drones to string two cables between Shenzhen and southern China and Hong Kong huh so they were just trying to use drones to string a couple cables of the they can have like a little pulley system and transport 15,000 phones per night every day 15,000 phones per day across these strings these cables that were apparently brought across by drones and this is actually the first known case in China to have employed drones as a part of their smuggling arrangement technology that's a lot of phones man that's uh they've been accused of smuggling 500 million yuan or approximately 80 million dollars u.s. worth of smartphones with the help of these drones right and now they've been caught and so they up it was unsuccessful heist and maybe next time they should I don't know buy quieter drones is that how they were caught where the drones too much doesn't say but I would imagine like meaning you know security is just like China like what the is that that's a loud ass drone it's got LEDs on it and why are you using the DJI phantom4 or if you're just some red and green LEDs on everything cables between Shenzhen and and Hong Kong then like did did a boat run into it or something like that like where the cables maybe it was like a Bellini on the ocean or were they where the cables in the water clear no I I I'm guessing the cables were you know airborne we're like you know pulled taut there's someone on the other side to receive the drone with the cable that it brought and was able to pull it taut and they were just you know so you man sporty are you're imagining a cable going like hanging right to keep five or six feet above like the chowder's waters of the waterway between shenzhen and hong kong right and then and then across this line there's just like every foot or so there's like a phone and they're just kind of slowly like moving along the line somehow I don't know like look that's the question is the visual I get I don't know if it's like one phone every foot or something like that and there's a guy just pulling it like a pulley or maybe it's like a pulley and it's just like a couple boxes like a box of phones yeah that they're just like you know like them we're shipping like a hundred boxes because I can't imagine probably box it probably boxes you're probably gonna resell the phone how are you gonna individually phones are probably packaged are you gonna engage in here is a visual the visual I got there of the lines hanging from it probably not very realistic that's that you're talking to me maybe like a hot dog and yet and I'm I'm kind of kind of digging that I'm kind of enamored kind of enamored with that idea now that's how I would smoke China well you know what maybe you should have been a part of them 26 people who got arrested Paul well I wouldn't have been maybe maybe they wouldn't have been arrested had you been there I don't expose myself like that that's right I hope you don't expose yourself to anyone Hado Rison v 2600 has been deleted by der bauer dude Wow hey he delivers look at that that's a picture of him deleting it all right it's very exciting um he heated up the IHS on the processor to 180 degrees because that is the temperature at which India melts which is the the solder material that AMD uses for these processors so once he heated it up he was able to pop off the IHS oh yeah oh yeah right there he was able to pop off the IHS that temperature and he replaced the original solder with a high-performance Tim material thermal interface material Tim materials redundant a high-performance Tim or thermal interface material and then he then mounted it crackin X 62 on to the CPU once it had been deleted and he overclocked the course to 4.1 gigahertz at one point three five volts versus the chips three point four gigahertz base clock and what he found in a run of Cinebench r15 was that the deleted 2600 dropped just four degrees from its non deleted equivalent so it went from 64 C to 60 C which is not the biggest deal it drop we've seen in history recent history so um in the video that you know devourer makes and stuff he says you know maybe it's not worth deleting these second gen rise in CPUs for just a few measly degrees difference because you could potentially damage your CPU while attempting to deal it it's a risky process that you know as d-lighting becomes more popular a lot of people start to forget those risks those very real risks of actually damaging your hardware which could be very traumatizing and costly so for a couple degrees the bauer wouldn't recommend it but it's also sort of a sort of a like a good job goldstar to AMD in the fact that they're already using a pretty good solder material for their core um they're like you know what I mean like they're doing a pretty good job with the stock sort of material the solder for cooling these CPUs whereas Intel would be a completely different story like go ahead and deal it that you'll drop you know 15 20 degrees or whatever because the stock Tim on Intel CPUs is just really really weak and easily so good job AMD thanks to Bauer for investigating this topic further and that's that's pretty much that and Paul's back from his this is his duty wasn't a duty just a peek okay just two key break other duty now we can move on to our next story our to cover this sari to cover this it's all great was it better we're better but slightly not worth the D lid I really dropped four degrees because the AMD solder is already pretty good money I'm like I'm like they didn't they did make a slide about it they were like to me her slide yeah they're like look we soldered we soldered our our stuff not like those crappy intel there's some crappy Timmy's Tim plebs moving on this article's I found this on reddit apparently using a stock or using a non stock cooler on your rising CPU will void its warranty so if you click on that link it'll take you to the sort of full thread page on AMD's website is the warranty for my AMD processor in a box still valid if I use a different heat sink or fan other than the one provided and they're like no the limited warranty she'll be null and void if the AMD processor which is the subject of the limited warranty is used with any heatsink or fan other than the one provided in the processor in the box so this is news to a lot of us and I guess I kind of want to talk about like hold on has this problem they solved um no I don't think it has I would like some further explanation how difficult or easy was to follow the instructions on this page somewhat difficult or very difficult because we would like more information I feel like that was a very don't bother to advertise unlocked processors overclocked overclockable CPUs exactly if you're going to invalidate the warranty from doing so I think that's a very good point Paul is that AMD has very heavily been pushing the fact that all of their CPUs on the m4 platform are overclockable but what good is that if they're also gonna come back and say oh yeah but if you do that we're gonna void your warranty and we're not gonna cover you we're gonna advertise this feature but we're not gonna protect you from using it or utilizing it so yeah it's a dick move I agree one of the other responses on the forum said my 1600 ex didn't come with the heatsink so this article is literally instructing me to run without a cooler under under a federally illegal threat to void the warranty which is also true there's also like I think it's silly so there's there's something with warranties like a company can write up whatever warranty they wants and say yeah thank you boy did your warranty if you do this and this looked at stuff yeah but there are also there are also I believe federal and state regulations that protect consumers from certain actions by companies right I know there's something called the limited warranties of merchantability and fitness which say that's any product that sold as a new product basically needs to operate for the use it was intended to use otherwise the seller of that product must provide either replacement of the product or a refund with the door within 30 days sure that's that's pretty standard across the board right you can't buy a car and then like the car doesn't drive like that's that's what the car is supposed to do like so there's a certain basic level of functionality that's that's promised based on what the product is right and if it doesn't work for that purpose then you have a basic consumer warranty protection at least if you're in the United States I don't know right how that operates in other countries so yeah I'm sure there's some limitation to this but there's also the flip side of that which is from the company's perspective businesses and this is applies to manufacturers it applies to retailers businesses will often make a statement so that that statement is there even though they're not really planning on ever having to use that statement right it can operate as a deterrent for people who might be like I don't know what to do so I'm gonna ask this and then I'll I'll make the decision based on that or it can be just something that they say as a deterrence but if somebody were to actually come and try to legally press them on that then they would be like actually no I'll go ahead and do that it allows them to for instance handle returns on a case-by-case basis whereas the there's a general policy that applies to everything but there's also for those people who actually might need to go around that policy they can make a case-by-case decision on that for them and different companies handled that different ways and I don't know if AMD's handling that this way all I have to say about this is like I feel like I've seen stuff like this before and I've probably never have seen someone who's like I bought a 2600 X and I installed it with with and then I upgraded the heatsink and then I tried to RMA it and the name D shut me down like the chant like the same with overclocking the niche number of people the few number of people that will happen to AMD will probably just take care of right so and and this doesn't necessarily hold indicative of AMD's statement it might just be one guy who's in charge of responding to that threat right so I feel like there could be some further investigation it might not be super inclusive with everything AMD stands for or with what they feel or believe on this particular topic but but but I definitely also feel like you know we overclocking your CPU for a lot of different products has been avoid or interior and I don't really hear a lot of people expressing concern that they've had issues arming or exchanging their processors that they've overclocked because at the end of the day like how how could AMD or any company really verify that you've used an on stock cooler with their products yeah you mean like how in a practical way for them to it's even harder to do it with that I think than overclocking and my thumb to my knowledge like so for example if you talk about overclocking and like Intel's warranty for example if you look at the actual text of it if you overclock an Intel processor I believe they're there there might be newer text on this or whatever but I believe even though even the unlocked ones even the case cues somewhat covered if you overclock it technically you are not covered under warranty anymore but to my knowledge there's no practical means of Intel or AMD validating that I don't think there is any flag or some sort of writable portion of the processor that can get updated that says this processor has been run at a higher frequency or something like that yeah I don't think there's any practical way of them doing that so unless you as a user go and say here's exactly what I did yeah and then they decide that based on that they should somehow use what you told them to void your warranty which I don't see them doing either no so III I don't see this affecting people directly right but if it is something that comes up that people are seeing as a concerning thing and hey if anyone from AMD happens to be watching this is a reference to a post on there AMD assist directly on the AMD QA and sometimes on the AMD say right yeah so it's directly on the Hamdi site about is the warrant that's on their FAQ right on the driver and support search FAQ this question exists yeah so Andy maybe updating this with some softer language yeah or just something that indicates like hey it's not just not a flat no exactly but my some gray areas helpful for people so yeah for sure alright we'll see if there's anything more to this in the future we'll keep an eye on it but finally we have an article from ARS technica ARS technica that's about the Xbox one we getting 120 Hertz support perhaps in a May software update that's kind of exciting for all you console console goers on the Xbox one s or Xbox one X Microsoft has announced this officially that 120 Hertz will arrive in a software update come May which will prove to give gamers smoother gameplay and responsiveness very similar to what you might experience on a PC free sync - I should mention was added to the platform earlier this year thank you Paul along with 1440p resolution support so it seems that Microsoft is trying to push the Xbox one S or X as a good PC desktop alternative and I think this is kind of interesting because I feel like as we come along here in society and gaming in the gaming community that a lot of more a lot more people are hooking up their their consoles to monitors as opposed to TVs which definitely splits the community a bit because there are certain expectations that you might have with a gaming centric monitor versus a generic you know Finnish good home TV or something like that so I definitely feel like Microsoft is acting on this this trend or this behavior this new this new action so freesync - we've got 1440p now 120 Hertz is gonna come around now bear in mind though that 120 Hertz on these consoles will only be supported at 1080p and 1440p resolution because these Xbox is for the current generation only have hdmi 2.0 so it's the limitation of of that particular spec that protocol there's also a bit of limitation as in the actual graphic graphics processing exactly how would you even get 120 FPS at 4k on something like an Xbox that's running you know some sort of specially AMD APU game with like 5 textures and yeah I mean if you're polish if you're playing an old enough game then sure you can play at a really high resolution mm-hmm like remember I on my half we showed some quick - gameplay about that yeah that would be my Xbox could easily handle quick - sure sure at 120 but yeah but not like you know destiny - or so thing like that like you know any mean like it's gonna be a long shot for certain titles that are a little more recent and it's also worth bringing up that a hundred and twenty Hertz just because it's supported on the console in general as the platform doesn't mean that every game you buy from now on on this platform is going to support a hundred twenty Hertz this is something inherently dependent on the developers of the game to implement into their titles to support and play nicely with the consoles so and that's not to say that games that are already out that have not been optimized for 120 Hertz will never see 120 Hertz gameplay it's possible that there could be future updates or you know patches for existing titles that will allow 120 Hertz but you want to keep your eyes on this if you are an Xbox one s or x-gamer to any in any capacity you want to make sure that you know that the games you're getting are supporting 120 Hertz if that's something that you're interested in and also bear in mind that you won't be able to get 4k out of that so that's what's happening with the Xbox and that's pretty much all the things I have to talk about in my half so let's just jaws dive in some donations as damaged as downs nice nice and to just continue your sentence I know I mean I'm just trying to get through this man only vaguely it's okay people understand my drunken language by now Carlos 1970 $10 hi Paul and Kyle great show I just got a 2700 X on B 350 and when I run a 264 the CPU temps are between 68 and 78 C but something called CPU diode reads 120 plus should I be worried Thanks no no that's different no you should not care mos yeah depending on the motherboard that you're using motherboards have different sensors on them a program like I 264 will reach out and try to hook those sensors usually your your your the the most fundamental sets of sensors like your CPU temperature and that kind of thing are usually pretty functional and I will sometimes go off of other readings when it comes like the era temps and that kind of thing with those but if something is really that reading is some really running that hot and it's not supposed to then your system would probably shut down versus it just running at that temperature so it's probably a miss read from the software I would also see I would also suggest getting an aftermarket cooler if you are getting up to 78 C on the 2700 X because these chips are inherently clocked higher than first gen risin and the coolers themselves the stock coolers are not that much different like the wraith prism the real difference between that and the wraith max from what I can tell is just the RGB so you're still getting the same TDP rated cooler but for maybe a slightly warmer running chip so I would consider it especially if you're trying to overclock and you're getting 78 C maybe get an aftermarket cooler I was surprised that the wraith prism uses the plastic tabs - yeah secure it felt it felt less it felt less secure than the other ones that before the backplate it's also simpler I think just mounting a simpler mounting process but four screws than that yeah it's cook it around and angle it in there and stuff like know what's annoying is trying to remove that cooler when you have a GPU installed the top slot because sometimes trying to like angle it to get it off that that the the bottom yeah wrong is interferes the cooler just smacks into your GPU it's kept annoying but thank you very much for the donation Carlos Nixon we've got try knocks this once again aiming $5 fine twitter source slash char noxus underscore gaming to see the build try noxus underscore gaming if you would like to see random dude on the Internet's Belcher knocks the C's tradoc's disease we cannot guarantee that you won't see I don't know midget clown porn or something III don't know we haven't vetted this no we have not so proceed with caution alright and Juche wire five Canadians all right if the CPUs dead it's dead also changed my mind on the Fenix cooler will probably use the fractal expandable yeah-yo because it's cheaper yes the Celsius coolers have been very well reviewed for the most part and I use them pretty frequently in builds from time to time so yeah that's that's that's a great solution and I don't think there's any red flags there so it's got a thicker radiator to the radiator very nice cable management as well Jeff Wilkins tender Australia's yo just picked up the bit with desk met hey how does it function as a beer coaster should I be worried about any possible spillage cheers from star yeah yeah yeah strike sorry um I have not really tested it as a beer coaster but you know I've used these to put drinks on they're better than putting on our burger so it dries yeah it doesn't leave much of a stain no or like a watermark right in my experience so yeah yeah they were they were good so coaster approved I didn't go for it put all your beers on them MB sixty-seven thirteen dollars and 37 cents as always Kyle I was thinking about your earlier discussion on being 21 years old and wanted to say that both you and Paul are still kids to enjoy life 21 for me 88 was during the Reagan private presidency see that that means nothing to me like for me 88 was just I mean I wasn't conscious really I was a baby as an infant and then maybe like 92 was like that the only thing that night like 1992 means to me is is Nintendo NES it's like I had that place in front of me the controller put in my hands 92 you had the original NES yes behind the curve well I was too young before that I think video I think 92 is when Super Nintendo actually came out right but my dad wanted to start me on the original roots of gaming consoles so he bought me an NES and then I scaled up beyond that eventually but NES was the the first console I ever played I think it was in 92 yes not been out for a while that Manti 1940 said that the Super Nintendo released in 91 yeah so yes I was a little bit behind the curve but I think because I was so young that he wanted to introduce me to a more simplified comps because you scaled up right from from the NES to the SNES you had a few more buttons yeah trigger finger buttons stuff so um and and I had the cool aeneas I had the toploader never the toploader not the one that just not the original box that you went in but the one that was actually a top loader like the top like like the SNES our original Nintendo yes for the original SNES was awesome it was like the compact it was like the PlayStation Portable version of it anyway let's move on to Trinity slow and $5 here's number three Kyle where's the stack attack video that Paul mentioned in his 420 vid or am i blind and not seeing it I just finished editing stack attack just before we went live for the show so soon it took me 15 hours to edit just saying and it is nope I added that I had all day Monday and I finished it today it turned out wonderfully and it's already up live people have already been watching it on floatplane if you let me check that out shine a floatplane description in the youtube link below or you can wait a week and it'll be up then on youtube so it's very funny so I need to be very very funny later this week yes okay later this week or early next week mother - Tanner wore them $10 I'm from Alaska forgot to mention though I have no other question though going to build my girlfriend a PC for streaming what would you upgrade from your budget build as we have a bigger budget tanner for streaming right now you definitely want one of the six core rising CPUs you can even go with an 8 core rise in CPU if you have that cache the cache or you know yeah it's worth it to you but for right now I would consider a 2600 or 2600 X maybe go with the X actually with the 2600 because you get a slightly better CPU cooler or go with the 2600 if you're planning on getting an aftermarket CPU cooler as long as you're okay with voiding your AMD warranty apparently um we've learned but yeah yeah definitely streaming and gaming at the same time this has been tested by gamers Nexus pretty thoroughly and they've had a pretty good testing methodology for that yeah it's just it's a much better experience for your viewers yes because you stream at higher quality yeah you can scream higher quality and still maintain a good gameplay experience for you yeah while you're gaming so consider that 2,600 2,600 X if you're going for a 6 core or the 2700 or 2700 X if you're going for an 8 core yes and then of course you're gonna need to pair that up with the graphics card and that's probably gonna be where your biggest budget hit comes in but just depends on what you're able to find there get it get it get one of those one of those combat boxes they called to get the combat combat combat crepe might be a reasonable solution for you yeah you lose a little bit of performance off the top ends because you're not doing with 2,000 series from Rison but no it's not that much so if you need a CPU a 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get on the floatplane train yeah why not early adopters that's what I'm saying yeah Rick Sanchez Rick Sanchez five-year or Gbps sorry didn't mean to confuse the two does FX and Sandy Bridge have any life left or are we all going to have to bite the bullet and buy a new board and CPU its mem something very memory costs memory cost that kills me yes you're gonna bite the bullet bro I'd say Sandy Bridge has a little bit more life than FX or sure overclocking if you can get your Sandy Bridge around four point four four point five gigahertz yeah it's still pretty reasonably good yeah but you know all your days are numbered though all these processors and stuff this is the computer you put together now in four or five six years we'll reach a point where it is no longer functional for the things that we want to do with it right now right and that's a good thing we we must remember this is a good thing if the tasks that we use our computers for didn't continually become more difficult for the computers to do then there would be no reason for the manufacturers to make new products to build the computers and we would not have this continual cycle of new computer parts to build to do fancy new things and all that kind of stuff just that's true this is a give and take yes you need to buy a new stuff every so often but that new stuff can do new and fancier things that the older stuff could do right and often it's a pretty huge jump especially if you're waiting five six years per upgrade cycles so yeah you will find if you're upgrading from an FX series AMD processor or a Sandy Bridge Intel processor and you jump to current generation you'll be like wow I didn't think it was gonna be this much of a difference in my experience but but it is especially if you go from like if you upgrade to like an SSD as well and all that kind of stuff ok yeah eventually you have to bite the bullet but I do not blame you if at least for right now your holding off until hopefully middle or later this year when we will hopefully see memory prices normalized because yeah hopefully by the end of this year it's still pretty expensive and those are one of those commodity markets that a band flow and we've been on a ab for what I don't know which I don't know what just way to switch but it's been really expensive for a while so it should hopefully dip back down at some point yeah all right so those are all the donations we do have some Johnson's shout out starting with Justin H thank you very much for picking up a bit with overclocked mug I love you Nathaniel to be from Utah a Johnson for you got the Star Wars RGB everything shirts oh I'm sorry that was a mug there's a mug okay Star Wars are to be everything mug I'll forgive you and the stainless steel thumb screw bottle open Nathaniel gets a double Johnson for also picking up the rip gamepad shirt and a fidget spinner sexy hell yeah Eric s from North Carolina hey Johnson to you for picking up that thumb screw beer set the glass and 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