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Awesome Hardware #0151-A: GTX 1180 IMMINENT!! To AREZ or not to AREZ? Newegg Sparks Controversy

2018-05-22
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anyway welcome to the show mister hello everyone hi guys welcome back this is awesome hardware episode 151 and it's not a tech like Picardie like Bacardi yes they're very very good Paul brings me back to my college days from what I can remember and this is a tech show that we like to talk about tech on and you know have a few drinks so if you're of legal drinking age feel free to drink along with us or you know it's not thank you we occasionally will use foul language only when appropriate because there is an appropriate time to use film in which trust me about language warning yes so you've been warned and let's see we sell stuff dude my store is bit McDuck tech slash store where you can find a smorgasbord of various items including desk pads mouse pads shirts shirts glasses mugs sale on this and so forth there is a sale on the evolution gamepad that's an ultra-wide it's an ultra-wide it's actually super ultra wide desk matt paul also has them on his store that specific one but I think that's beside does the oxblood the oxblood thumb structure your shirts hoodies some hoodies up now Guess's bottle openers metallic hoodie metallic is that new limited edition super metal what is this what's going on here pol sure I'm sure getting familiarized with his own store right now and there was a few weeks back we talked about putting some new stuff up and I was like cool and then that's how automated John makes everything for us well rich guy is just so on top of it explore the new merch yeah let us know if it's cool we'll shop will shout John that you at the end of the stream if you happen to pick something up from either of our stores that's all real nice it's all real good stuff high-quality um that's a shirt you damn traitor if you never be wearing those competitors our biggest rivals merchandise on this show he barely paid me any money to it was like wow it was like just a few grand Steve's like worried about shirt whoa wait here is several thousand dollars in unmarked bills don't tell anyone about this so you're saying that you're you're shilling for I saw a youtuber who constantly is accused of being a show yes like she'll sections act now yeah my guys he actually pays other people to show for him you're a shill of a shill you're you're all shells and I sold this advertising space on your show which I'm also proud of I am I'm very upset hmm this is why I have to counteract it with my with my own brand my own state pause had a shirt pocket bump so that's also in the store you like a message I like the message of that it is a very positive message for lack of a better phrase um all right so that's that let's go ahead and dive into our first segment of the day which is hot and heavy hardware we're talking about hardware that's hot and heavy Wow I was perfectly I'm not I'm not super prepared for this show this is my half of the show when we get to any is gonna be on the shorter side that's okay but it looks like I am it really does so I shouldn't have said that I could have maintained that you could have fooled everyone I never mind the ruse is gonna mind everything that's gonna be perfect in awesome it's okay it's gonna be and will distract the most minute with dancing or something at some point first articles from PC world are buddy ol pal Gordon Mong wrote this one Gordy and it's about the razor blade the new razor blade 15.6 inch model there's actually a lot of fun little video to go along with it with Gordon himself this is a new razor blade and I really like the form factor here 15.6 inches I think is a sweet spot for just kind of everyday use the 13 inch Mac sorry Mac razor blade Pro or razor blade was a little bit small for my liking very portable it made it very light and easy to travel with nothing 15.6 inch gives you a bit more screen screen real estate there it's a sweet spot it is a nice sweet spot especially if you're gonna be gaming on it so what's what's the deal here 0.66 inches tall this is a damn borderlining you know this is definitely under Ultrabook category or territory if you say the specs here and 8th gen 6 core i7 8750 h it's also the same as the msi ge62 5 stealth so I guess it makes it a competitor look at the copper in that cooling helicoper me it is 4 or 5 pounds so that's probably probably due to the the copper because I believe that they're still going with an aluminum unibody and whatnot or I don't know if it's a unibody but definitely aluminum frame the screen is there's two options here there's two models that you can choose from there's a 1920 by 1080 screen at 144 Hertz or a 3840 basically a 4k panel or screen which is it didn't didn't say it's 60 Hertz obviously both of these are IPs and factory color calibrated you can also spec out the GPU as you see fit down from a GTX 1060 max Q max Q all the way up to a gtx 1070 max Q you also get some SSD options PCIe of course 512 gig up to 2 terabyte I don't want to know how much that that spec costs up to 32 gigs of DDR 4 2667 Ram Thunderbolt 3 is onboard perky lit keyboard as well and typical Razer RGB fashion um so if you want to get the base model at the 1060 GTX 1060 and a 256 gig SSD that also comes along with the 1080p 60 Hertz panel so there's also a 1080p 60 Hertz panel well that'll start at 18 99 $15.99 that is way cheaper than I did I expected this is in a perfect world where we can all rejoice and be happy about MSRP s that would be nice but I know this is actually eight hundred or closer to around $1,900 $1,900 that isn't quite where the decimal was in your life and your initial thought a lot more it is a lot more um the top-end 4k is even more than that the 4k version with a touch touchscreen and whatnot 16 gigs of ram 512 GB SSD and of course the gtx 1070 max-q will go for a whopping $2,900 thanks that's almost I think that's about as much as a base level razor blade row row base level but still a lot bigger and stuff it sure is yeah 17 18 inch screen GTX 1080 so um but yeah I mean it looks really nice it looks kind of like they straightened out some of the edges like the overall design of the actual unit looks a bit sharper in my opinion I feel like the the razor blade last gen was a kind of more rounded features this one looks more like just like like an actual razor very sharp and very square and the bezel is so much thinner which I very much like yeah it almost goes out to the edges and yeah it's yeah that was the one thing about the razor blade at least the one I have is just the bezels are so huge it looks it just looks low doesn't look all that great and you kind of miss out on some of that space so that's what's going on with razor they'll get a new laptop check it out that's it next up we have an article from Engadget reporting on nvidia quietly unveiling a new graphics card kind of this it's the gtx 1053 gigabyte model okay so you know we already have the gtx 1050 2 gigabyte and we have a gtx 1050 TI 4 gigabyte but this is the first gtx 1050 that has three gigs of gddr5 and it's got a faster base clock but a lower memory bandwidth of 84 gigabytes per second compared to 112 gigabytes per second for the other two models it has the same number of CUDA cores as the TI which is nice which also means that it'll probably run about 10% faster than the GTX 1050 2 gigabyte card according to Nvidia 10% faster for you know a few bucks more right now the MSRP for the 2gig gtx 1050 is about a hundred and nine dollars and then it's about a hundred and thirty nine dollars for the TI if it's that's good sure just ignore all of this pretend those like you're trying to save what's the framerate no this is relative oh my government 1x to Equus the chart baseline what accident that's horrible horrible Nvidia I mean they're always confusing I mean that's how much does this cost what do we price hasn't been unveiled yet but somewhere in between what a 1052 gig and a 1050 ti4 gig would cost you so street prices street prices are a different story right so you could probably estimate anywhere from 50 I would say anywhere from forty to sixty dollars more than MSRP at the time of this broadcast with GPU rates being what they are so if it's if it's MSRP for 125 then let's just say 180 to 200 for for one of these guys when they first launched which you know isn't the most ideal but that is the situation I don't know do we need this card have we been long it seemed it seems like it doesn't seem very close in performance to a 1050 Ti right so I just can't see I don't feel like this is hitting any sort of demo that the other two cards around it weren't so you still have to pay like a hundred and eighty hundred ninety bucks for a 1050 Ti right now I think if you want to buy one so if you suddenly launches and you can buy it and it's a thermos or and it's a hundred twenty bucks or something then then maybe that will fill a need for a certain you know number of people who just want to build a relatively cheap gaming PC that'd be great but I mean the odds of that happening are pretty low and you say well I mean with the lower amount of memory memory can be an issue with mining depending on what you're mining and stuff so that might deter some miners from from being interested in buying it and yeah I mean I guess it just depends on availability and if you can actually buy it and what the price actually is so yeah cuz gtx 1050 s aren't hitting nearly as bad inflation wise as the 1050 t is mainly because as Paul said you I think three digs of VRAM is the sort of minimum recommendation for mining aetherium for example so the idea here is that with the gtx 1053 gig it kind of barely it gets as close to being inflated as possible our or gets close to as close to being desirable by by minors as possible without actually being targeted at miners which meant might allow it to the 2gig ten fifty s they're selling four hundred and these are sold out need your for about 150 and these are similar yeah that's about that's about $40 more than MSRP the cheapest ten fifty two gig you can get is one hundred and sixty-five dollars at Newegg right now so that's still pretty ridiculous yeah I know yeah and maybe so maybe we could I would imagine that's the price that's probably the lowest price we could see one of these ten fifty four gig I'm sorry three gig cards go for is around one hundred and sixty maybe one hundred and seventy bucks but we'll just have to see um you guys let us know yet if if this does anything for you what your thoughts are our next articles from hexxus X talking about the NZXT th 500 and H 500 I'm mid towers that launched that that were announced and launched I guess they haven't officially launched launched it's it's not going to be available some until mid-june so gamers Nexus reviewed the H 500 okay so um the article says available before mid-june I mean it's before mid-june now so maybe they're available now I haven't really checked but there's there's two models here h 508 500 i they're very similar and the fact that they both have a tempered glass side panel they have a power supply basement that sort of innovative cable management on behind the motherboard tray that we've seen them like the H 700 I it kind of looks just like you know it's the the design of the case kind of reminds me if like the s 340 elite and an H 700 I had a baby I believe the H 500 is replacing the s 340 in their lineup okay that makes a lot of sense it is now it is now in each case instead of an S case yes and it looks like the tempered glass doesn't really span the entire side it looks like it's kind of cut off I believe it touches it tucks right under this lip ring right which so I don't know who I filled out that I'm I'm okay with it that at least I didn't fantex have a case that kind of had them the tempered glass mount that way aid the p300 it was okay for me cuz it was an it was secure enough down there that you could set it in place and like that's the only time the tempered glass your mounting irritates me is like the ones that just have the four screws going out and they're not long enough and you're setting it there and then you have to get the first screws in yeah it's like if there's any moment where you set it there and you have to like take your hands off it where it could like easily fall off like them that's what freaks me out so I'm true yeah from a practical standpoint I just mean from from an aesthetic standpoint I kind of like the clean just all tempers less personal thing but it's still a very handsome looking case that being said tempered glass basement it's got a removable water cooling bracket at the front that can support up to 280 millimeter radiators that's pretty nice that's cool looks like dual USB three at the front there on the front panel power button no type C no type C unfortunately and with the price point I probably wouldn't I wouldn't expect it to be type C compatible if their next generation of case than it should have the next generation of a connection again yes I wish in a perfect world that they all the new cases in 2018 head type-c may be in 2019 will finally catch on to that trend so $95 us about I'm just converting this from the the great British pounds that was listed in hexes hexes this article so $95 US for the H 500 and 135 dollars thereabouts for the H 500 the difference between the non eye and the eye skews is that the eye model will get you the sort of a built-in smart device that we saw in the H 700 eye which is basically like an RGB and digital fan controller that will basically use machine learning and all that crap to generate automated fan curves based on you know different Gnostics and in your system you could like talk to it and ask it to schedule appointments for you and stuff yes it's got a whole built-in built-in Google assistant no that's not true that'd be pretty sweet though you also get two pre-installed fans with the H 500 I but the article didn't specify if these are a or RGB fans I would assume so because there's a much bigger focus here on the illumination and the lighting I'd also comes with LED strips integrated RGB lighting vertical GPU mount although a riser card is not included so if you'd like RGB and you want to do a vertical mount and you want that smart device then go with the I model if you don't care about any of that stuff the non-ai is virtually the same there's a picture of the flip side of the H 500 this is from gamers Nexus review on it that they posted today they also said that the cooling was middle-of-the-road okay not great but fine yeah I mean where is it even getting its intake from I mean there's gaps at the sides of the Front's okay because I couldn't tell from the 3d generally I believe the the generated pictures or whatever yeah so there's the gamers Nexus is set it was looking pretty fly these days well they got that the peg talked about it's all about the pegboard it is about the pegboard looks good so that's that we can move on to our next piece of harp maybe hardware which is what happened to that camera sorry which is from Samsung preparing their 49 inch 50 120 by 1430 displays for the heads-up chat I'm not sure why the camera froze Oh weird we're good now though yeah yep cool so this article is from hot hardware how appropriate that it should be featured on hot and heavy hardware haha and this is a sort of Samsung's follow-up to their CH g90 that they released last year which was the 49 inch super ultra wide super ultra wide 144 hertz panel that had a kind of polarizing resolution of 3840 by 1080 1080 vertical isn't acceptable and I did a review on this monitor actually pretty recently and specified or mentioned in my review that this resolution is definitely not for anyone you're essentially taking to 1920 by 1080 monitors smashing them together which can feel very vertically challenged for lack of a better term but this panel will actually have a cool resolution count to 1440 which i think is a bit more reasonable okay so 50 120 by 1440 this is known as all these new with every new resolution comes a new terminology or no what's it so it's dual quad HD duel or DQ HD alright so I mean I guess that makes sense because you know you're being you basically have to 2560 by 1440 panels smashed together so it's kind of like I find that acceptable yeah it is it's just fun to see all these new terms come about again this will be a 120 a 120 Hertz panel which is slightly down from 144 Hertz with the chg 90 but that makes sense because we have more more pixels to push so maybe you can't get away with there's not quite as much bandwidth to get 144 Hertz at this higher resolution it still maintains an 1800 our curve which i think is not just good but necessary for a panel this wide because I believe this is a VA panel if it's gonna be like the chg 90 and already went with a CH D 90 if you the just looking at the the corners the the edges the far edges of the screen you start to see some color distortion just a little bit of distortion because the viewing angle isn't the greatest you have to like turn your head completely from one side to the other to look yeah and like if you have text that's just right on the edge of the screen then it's a little bit harder to read because the screen so wide that all of a sudden you look to the very left or right of your screen and you're looking from a pretty extreme viewing angle so it makes sense for it's almost practical for a screen this size and this wide to have a curve to it which i think is a smart move we haven't confirmed this yet but I'm gonna assume that this is gonna support freesync too very much like its predecessor and possibly HDR since that's all the rage these days with high-end gaming monitors um and I'm not exactly sure how much this is gonna retail for the chg 90 is around a little shy of $1,000 right now I would assume this one's gonna be around a thousand maybe 1,200 because you get more pixels and stuff like that a couple more bells and whistles but wait this the the 1080 vertical one is it just like 1000 yeah yeah yeah I would I would expect this to be 1200 to 1500 then yeah mm-hmm yeah all right or or who knows maybe they'll keep it closer to a thousand and then drop the price of the CH g9b if they're not selling many of those it is it is a like a more elegant solution than like a dual monitor setup if that's what we're going for and then especially if you wanted a game on it I mean gaming on two monitors is pretty silly you know three is acceptable but you got the bezels in between right but this kind of yeah that could be fun yep so that's that um moving on here this is our last article for hot and heavy hardware which is about the Acer predator X 27 this is the 4k 144 Hertz panel HDR and all that jazz that's been listed for pre-order pretty early on new egg for a whopping $2,000 Wow 2,000 bucks finally we know the price of this monitor that's been touted all over the web for months now it has wings it has wings it gives you wings you know why does it have wings I guess you can't wear your hat can no land cheating I don't like this hair really I don't know I think maybe it's to keep light out or something that would expect it to be for glare yeah right but that's that's what I mean yes maybe if you're bringing it to a LAN party then yeah you know I guess a bit of protection for the person sitting maybe if they're like trying to target to like eSports you know you want the guy looking over you or whatever sitting next to you I'm not sure no but yeah people are saying check its for glare that's got the knobby doodle you and I were correct Paul it's got a little old knob joystick looks like lobby guy this means that that photo team at Newegg has already gotten their hands on these right either that or the board that Acer provided them with all these years it's ramps that's that's the case I mean it's hard to know these these these look very precise ah the new new the photo team they do really good job so it's sometimes hard to tell the difference between these professional manufacturer photos first estate professional retailer photos yeah at any rate um if you also look do it release date where Oh June 1st that's in about a week or so this so limit limit one per customer can't be lining three these up nah bummer but hey people are already answering questions why did you choose this person who obviously can't even own the product yet this alright this is supported wait someone asked that why did you choose this yeah who knew egg I don't I don't know anyway guess that it says no a new I guess that yeah automatically to someone who pre-orders it I guess okay then they said need to automated email because it's the only monitor that has the specifications it has probably that's yeah so yeah if you've got two thousand dollars just lying around there's just like man I really wish that I found something who doesn't I mean exactly yeah but we all have that problem well what are we going to do with this spare two thousand dollars guys Oh life sucks it's looking for well something to spend it on here's solution to all of your heart problems all right that's that's hot and heavy hardware let's do some pit mouthpiece things these guys by the all who sent in some submissions of your crappy rigs that suck and we're gonna tell you how you can make them less crappy I'm not I'm just kidding we try to be nice about it we provide aesthetic feedback when I build only an attempt and then attempt to give you ideas on how to make your build look prettier that is very accurate so let's start with Caesar all right Caesar concepciĆ³n core i7 core i7 5820k and the Asus deluxe x99 motherboard and gigabyte g1 gaming GTX 1080i 16 gigs BTR for 2666 crucial and a bunch of other stuff he led he led with the cable management picture he sure did we got a brave soul what's looking here 540 yep yes err 540 case from Corsair and yeah vertical GPU mount yeah I'm doing the vertical GPU mount actually looks pretty nice especially when you move around and it's not right up against the side panel exactly that's not start for you okay um side panel on I like that shot too interestingly you have to wait what what are you talking about the first thing I was gonna point out is that you have two fans that are red the red and red ring and there's really nothing else in your system that's Reds they kind of stick out to me but they don't you can't see them on the side panels on and if you go to the picture yeah it's truth blocked that's true that's true that's true sometimes it sometimes they still bothers me I only say no things if I know it's there okay so white rings those are interchangeable those fans come with white rings there's a pair of dirty shirts on the floor under the table Oh God hey better the shorts and I just couldn't help but notice that it's really it's how do you know those are shorts it looks like shirts I'm gonna say those are shorts I guess they could potentially be pants but yeah anyway all right no I feel like he's really asking for feedback on this picture because he led with it yeah man do you have a method of cable management's or drapery or what what have you here that perhaps you know you don't see often I want it I want to dub this it's like a it's like a cyclone it's like a twister it is yep they're wrapping the one cable around the other I've actually done similar cable management to this in the past I was gonna say now I've seen it like this before yeah maybe not to this extreme but I have definitely seen you do this performs like front panel connectors yeah smaller cables just a way to eat up some of the excess cabling without it going everywhere right so I will say that I appreciate the you know perhaps a slight bit of increased airflow that you get from this here but I wouldn't say it's like showroom ready I don't think it looks especially good no definitely not it's that which is probably why he reserved it from this side of the case and enough the beauty side yeah that's true because you know over here look at this people won't be able to see anything relative also the the the cable coming off of your water block is a little bit loose let's flailing out there over the dims yeah right here I took that it should be that is the one thing that I feel like should be should be handled right but apart from that very clean cable management on this side of things so great great build there say sir gee thank you in gee thank you for sending that over next is we do boy we borrow eight Jesse Joey days Corsair carbide spec oh one with an Asus a 78 M - a motherboard this is a slightly older bill Asus Radeon RX 5 64 gig evil OC Edition 400 watt power supply it's a cooling master with ketchup mustard cables the and e8 6500 APU 16 gigs of ram a couple hard drives several hard drives an 80 gig is there really an 80 gig hard drive in here that is that is interesting I've have thumb drives that have mark fasting well I have like a 500 gig thumb drive so I get said that anyway um all right power supply my god power supply power supply power supply what is this is this a fan cable where right here this red and red black and white twisty guy yeah let's do there all right that looks horrible yeah huh we have how many is that three three three memory sticks wow this hurt this power supply actually goes beyond the ketchup and mustard and has a clear business and has a clear like the clear plastic connector which is just just reeks of aid of a very cheap power supply also just the completely closed in housing with a little little finger where all the where all the cables come out you know that's good this case the system also looks like it's on the ground I don't I always computer off floor that's what I always demand it'll last situation yeah all right so I new power supply new case the case is passable actually new platform I mean that core platform is really what you should be investing in right now this is getting to be pretty pretty agent yeah and yeah I mean if the the thing that's just standing out the most over everything is that power supply with the closed second being the fan cable that's that's draped over here with the twist eNOS and the extra colors and the mismatched RAM mismatched RAM yeah I mean if you're being practical and the power supply is functional no upgrade your power supply your motherboard and your processor and your memory save it for that everything else is you can work with yeah otherwise that power supply is gonna be shooting flames out the back before you know it so get on that we dboy thank you for the submission thank you so much for sending your pictures of your computer next we have chi chi dass rise in 1600 overclocked to 4 gigahertz and which I which I appreciate that you know save money on the 1600 X by overclocking the 1600 strict speed 350f gaming motherboard 16 gigs of g.skill ripjaws 3000 megahertz ram also solid memory speed to go along with that processor be quiet dark rock 3 cooler the zotac you textin 60 amp of course there are MXM 50 powers plot fractal defined c tempered glass some dynamic GB 12th fans and a silent wings in there alright what is happening here so what is what is happening like so for starters the front fans one is set to intake and the other set to exhaust your right Kyle weird that is you don't see that area strange so I would perhaps not the best of a scheme for airflow for your air flow I would flip the white fan and I mean I went to intake as well maybe he did a bunch of tests maybe he took all of his fans flipped them different directions like in all the different combinations they could be in and decided that this was actually the best cooling performance if you did that then leave them how they are if not then flip your your top fans Benante can imagine all right now also the cooler the cooler if it's know if it's vertical is not horrible but there's no top exhaust for here right this is gonna mesh up on the top on this case alright and then fancy doesn't have MIT or maybe he's got the panels is those panels yes the mod you vets the weird thing is that the modern covers are installed otherwise you'll be able to see like the light for dogs so if you're gonna keep your cooler in that orientation bark-bark-bark and I've tested I've tested thermals inside of I don't know fine that have the mod you vent cutters enter and slightly turned down the volume okay I turned it back up please continue found I'm gonna make sure that nothing removing the the Naja vent covers oh boy removing the mod you meant covers of this case can dramatically reduce your thermals your temperatures so especially if you have your cooler pointed up where you're trying to exhaust hot air out the top your case then pop one or two or maybe all of those panels off if noise isn't a concern that's a pretty quite cool I'm sure it wouldn't be or flip your cooler 90 degrees counterclockwise and have the air aimed at the rear fan to aid in exhaust that's what I would recommend power supply cable extensions would be a solid here I mean at least they're black no ketchup and mustard but still they don't look the prettiest yeah EVG a lot of the EVGA power supplies have this and it's starting Johnny like this drink the second follow-up to the the ketchup and mustard like the big old fat heat shrink that goes over whatever the heck is in the middle of the cable right there it's standing out in this but I mean your color schemes on point at least right yeah that's good very much very color neutral black and white it looks great but somebody asked somebody are you replied and pointed out despatched and taking exact the only ones alright thanks Kai Thank You Kai next up is mailing T mei-ling tiny dragon sh me I 560 600 case Trixie 270 motherboard knocked to a nhd sorry 315 Asus GeForce GTX 1066 getting dual supernova NEX 650 watt power supply Thermaltake suppressors f31 with side window 2 terabyte hard drive CD and DVD Drive G's still tried on Zr to be memory I go RGB 120 fans I do not is there any SSD in this it does not appear so all right that's the problem all right you know this system could really use an SSD I feel like it's got some pretty high quality componentry going on including like RGB memory SSD oh my gosh yeah you're missing out on so much you so much responsiveness from the system without having that sisty that said huh all right so we got some LEDs so you know some some lights going on and stuff maybe this is it's like a it's it's like it's like an industrial sort of but with the lights going it yeah going on I don't know it's industrial but pretty yeah yeah we're trying to be pretty yeah it's got RGB with the with the treaded z memory and and the LED strip I think that's a strip um but you know obviously the nock to a fan that you have in your cooler is very high performing but isn't really gonna match jack you might consider you could probably you know sell that for a decent you know a few bucks and maybe swap it just was one of their crow max ones or one of their industrial ones that would match a lot better care management there's a lot of cables going on so turn to fault you too much for that cuz they're going where they need to go but there's there's definitely a bit of whatever this is in the middle here it's tied up out in front where does it seem necessary right right in front of this little bunch yeah yeah that's for the optical drive it's nothing a lot for me there and then I would say flip your power supply cuz it looks like your Kate this is look case this is a practical case no that's thermal think what it's the suppressor 35 shocker that you would confuse a thermal take Kate yeah but I do believe there is a dust filter there at the bottom so um you would you would benefit from that yeah that's very suggestion 'z yes all it said but before you worry about any of the aesthetics you get an SSD and get off the floor really good it's on the floor get off the floor maybe it was just moved to the floor for the pictures I hope so no probably it's not plugged in on not close but you have the floor not floor okay they see much mei-ling easy thank you may like arise in five 1600 ACS prime be 350 EVGA GTX 1070 Corsair Vengeance 16 gig 3000 speed cooler master hyper 212 Evo 120 gig SanDisk SSD terabyte hard drive and EXT hue plus with two LED strips and only one works since I opened the box that's too bad that you got a bum boo LED strip DX DF and maybe they'll send you a new one maybe there's an NZXT rep watching this show right now who's gonna probably not you never know this doesn't come up too much unfit my pc but the fingerprints on your tempered glass side panel would drive the little bit of OCD I have here up the wall yeah yeah I give that little wipe down well why don't it's being exaggerated because it's catching the flash right there so true but yeah it's busted it's standing out um very solid strong theme here with the black and red you've got a splash of green as well with the air fan so sure whatever floats your boat I think that color combo I can't tell for sure but the two pictures with the fans and these are obviously digital fans because he's got the the NZXT fans he's setting these two blue to red and green so I think that's his intent here yes here's my question why is your keyboard which I can see a reflection of blue and purple this should also be writing green I want this to be a Christmas themed PC now yeah and that's kind of what I want to go for it purple has no place in Christmas land to fill out the Christmas theme I feel like you should get a little mini Christmas tree put it right here in the front of the case when you get those replacement LEDs from NZXT to replace the broken strip you can also do like a little wrapping around there I think that would be really cool yeah and then you made the Christmas PC that's what you should do indeed and maybe upgrade your cooler one day because the hyper 212 is as great of a bargain as it is is starting to look a bit dated with that with that heat sink and that glossy black plastic fan yeah why it's not standing out quite as much to me um there are some loose cables in here let's go but let's get back to our roots with it with my PC we got some loose cables just hanging about in here those can be tidied up a bit too so yeah there's there's there's as you can see there's cutouts I mean you already are aware of the cutouts for your behind your SSDs behind your hue plus and your SSD there's those cable cutouts I would route your USB 3 through through one of those cutouts as well where as opposed to how you have it now kind of stretching all the way across that reservoir bar but looks good overall looks great Thank You Izzy thanks Izzy and thanks everybody my place Lee pictures we'll do this again soon so don't be discouraged I had a lovely time and also if if you've submitted your PC like three or four times in a row and I'm still not picking it it's probably because your systems good enough there's really not much Justin sucks it's not good enough it's because I hate you as a person it's very personal basically yeah so don't get offended don't be like Oh Kyle hates me it's probably just because there's really not much for us to comment on and so I just keep skipping past it every week so just want to put that out but thanking everyone who submitted and we'll catch you guys next week I'm news let's talk about some news circling back to new egg here we sort of briefly mentioned them earlier but this isn't an actual news bit at Newegg about new egg changing the review system to to basically aggregate reviews across multiple processors a large egg logo this III initially found out about this through WCC F Tech Keith our buddy in Powell and Twitter actually did a video I I could be wrong here but then I feel like they have been doing this for a long time like this is not new really maybe if not I know Amazon Amazon at least has been doing this for a long time Amazon hi yes okay short but I feel like I feel like when Amazon does it I'll take a read I feel like Amazon does it to a degree but you know like you'll see a mixed variety of product reviews you know different products or reviews for different products for you know on a single product page but they're not like drastically different it might be for like a different like if it's a battery pack it might be the exact same model and everything but just a different milliamp rating or a different color you know they're pretty similar but from what it looks like here new egg is sort of aggregating reviews for just all types of different products especially for motherboards that have completely different price ranges are different prices and feature sets you can see here you got the Z Z 370 gaming 7 all the way down to you know Z 370 HD 3 which is which is a significantly lower end board but yet they're combining the reviews for all of these products and feeding them to the patoot to a product page for one single product without without it being super clear that they're doing so and so what you find is that even in the sidebar here you can see it says terrific 5 out of 5 eggs terrific motherboard at a great price so people who are visiting this page think oh wow people really love this board but you find out later that that's actually a review for a different model board that's about a hundred dollars cheaper and this continues even within the review tab if you go to the review tab on new you can try to test it out right now you could look up a board or whatever on new egg and see for yourself all the reviews are now combined for you know for example a chipset is this is the example that we're looking at here which can be very misleading I could see how this would be misleading to people who aren't aware of this change on the site or who just aren't very experienced PC builders and as the article is saying PC building trying to like knowing which parts are compatible is hard enough that's that's like a huge challenge for a lot of first-time builders and this kind of makes them a bit more confusing for those people I think when they're trying to figure out wait are these the is this the board that I'm actually reading reviews for so I think it's a little bit misleading whether they intended it to be or not I mean obviously they didn't intend it to be but I think the reason why Newegg is doing this is to create the illusion that they have a flourishing review reviewer community like Amazon ah I think that's what it is because now all of a sudden because no they definitely weren't doing this before never before have I seen a motherboard on Newegg with 700 plus reviews but doesn't happen to notice that all of these asrock motherboards have the same gem 42 reviews right hmm very peculiar on those this one does so and then so and you realize they all have a 4 out of 5 rating all the MSI boards have 362 reviews yes and that's what's even more concerning is that the a grading the grading that was such a huge fundamental part of the new a reviewer system is now compromised because you're getting the review rating the a grading of a smorgasbord of different products rather than just the one you're looking at all the Asus boards has certain 36 reviews which makes every board on the site look amazing all these products oh my god they're all so well reviewed when in reality that's not the case and pretty stupid it's I feel like they're shooting themselves in the foot it's a in case you guys weren't aware and this is this is a pass that there's no like legal reason for this but Kylie I both used to work for Newegg and I back when we worked there knew of people who very ardently defended the Newegg review system because they realized that if you allow compromised if you allow a vendor to come in and say like hey this product has a bad review how about you just change that or something like then it's worthless the review system is worthless so this is obviously you know we haven't been there for years I who the heck ins in charge of this now but they've obviously made the decision decision that we would like to make our review system worthless you know yeah great job it's very informed that call yeah you really have to dig now for reviews on a specific product they're not just there on the product page they're jumbled up with a bunch of a bunch of reviews for other products I do think there that you can search reviews so at least that's an option so maybe if you are looking for a review on a specific product you can take the the products like model number how do you do that put it into the search I've never done that before well done nothing for this beer let me see if I can do it reviews all right so let's look at this awesome as that's how many reviews that's that's those are reviews for all your products those are all the products that you're getting reviews for 742 reviews mm-hmm and even says review of asrock extreme for right here dead on arrival awesome it'll say at the bottom and that's not even 0 to 70 Pro for related product ah at least they're tagged related products so how do you like filter out there at the top here uncheck all related product reviews ha now there's 184 reviews right and I think it's got a better rating it's good damn it yeah totally better yeah I mean I'm sure this depend if T much the word you're looking for sure alright well that's how you get around it guys we've discovered this but if you've heard here first so just let it's stupid but it's stupid because it presents you with a different thing and you've got to go in here and check some other my suggestion would be just to leave it unchecked by default Newegg you have it unchecked give them the option to check in don't give them the option to uncheck it leave it unchecked by default yeah and here's where you would search by the way to and can search them there so I don't know it's confusing it's confusing not really for like me or Paul but for like new new people I feel it could be bad I don't know for people who aren't doing the taking a few extra steps to investigate further they might get a they might be misled in their impression of the product and how many reviews it has and how many people have actually bought that product used it and then thought enough about it in one way or another to go online and poster review but I know it's really weird as it was like literally last week when I was on Amazon I had Amazon and Newegg open looking at the same product and there were tons of reviews on that product for on Amazon but maybe only like two or three undoing and I was like wow the review community is really good no and I literally thought that last week and then this happens so they knew egg clearly has been seeing the same things seeing the same issue I've been trying to rectify it in one way or another so let's move on though all right the UH this is an article from tweak town our good friend Anthony wrote this one up hi Anthony if you're watching GTX the gtx 1180 will sample june 15th according to rumors from tom's hardware good to know and yeah holy crap it's it's coming this is gonna be like tweets like purple now they made it purple no Paul that's this just the lighting and that's at a yeah yeah nevermind good stuff getting my hopes up throughout for a purple founders edition card but this will be a batters Edition card dream cap we can don't let them be dreamers Nitra June 15 the GTX 1180 founders Edition will allegedly launch and it's going to top the performance of the current flagship Nvidia card the Titan X little P which is very exciting this is launching apparently the week of coputex which is kind of interesting it's it's gonna be a show stealer for sure if that's the case and will also mean that Paul and I might have to stop by the Nvidia booth just to see if that sampling June 15th right book launching august september well august september for admin board partners the founders edition card will launch several months before that well launch june 15th that's what it made it that's theoretical made it seem like that would actually be III not Computex I believe June 15th yeah okay that makes sense yeah cuz June it's the first week of June is Computex so that could be something that they may be announced at the e3 yeah you show you three is June 12th said June 14th I wouldn't be surprised if okay June 14 okay so shortly after at any rates June 15th we should have many more details about this typed up card cool and we don't know what the price is yet the tight next little P is around $1,200 right now and this card maybe I can't imagine it being that much so maybe around a thousand nine hundred to a thousand it would be my guess if this is just the this is just the 1180 the successor to the 1080 and they're not pretending like the graphics card pricing bubble is something that they're like I don't know I I it's hard to tell for sure what's gonna happen in the next month or the next few months but like I feel like the manufacturers themselves aren't suddenly setting MSRP s in relation to like the increased demand and and overpriced stuff that's been happening so yeah I feel like this should still be a alright probably a $600 card when they launch it and then they'll drop the price when the 1180 TI comes out to 550 or 500 in the 1180 I'd be 650 or 700 or maybe that jumps by fifty or hundred bucks this round because of the increased prices because of you know things get more expensive every year you know the $6.00 burger the Carl's jr. now costs like six dollars and fifty cents or something like that well now the name is accurate no it's not accurate it costs more than six dollars that's false advertising this is called the six dollar burger yeah they're just rounding down when the sixth our burger came out it was like it was supposed to be a joke no it's four bucks it 399 and they came out with it cuz I don't go to like Red Robin or TGI Fridays or wherever and pay 6 bucks for a burger you can get that same quality burger for four dollars and you don't pay six dollars and that's why it's called the six dollar burger right but now it actually costs more than $6 might say yeah they should rename it to the eight they should or something come on I don't know Carlos mercy didn't get on that shins seems like garbage boy cutting Carl's to you exactly so um yeah alright I guess we'll have to wait for more details to come to come to light but I wouldn't expect this card to be very cheap and you know I think NVIDIA is probably kind of glad in the sense that they don't have to be the ones answering to consumers as to why the prices are so high they can set a pretty attractive MSRP and then be like well frickin Newegg and Amazon are the ones who are marking up the prices they're the ones who are selling it for twice the MSRP we this is our suggested price this is what we want it to sell it for but now I'm sure they don't mind being in that situation at all so we'll just have to see how it plays out but let's move on it's articles from guru about Asus and and their confirmation that there Ares branding is here to stay the Ares line of AMD GPUs that was sort of spawned because as a response to the GP P the GeForce partners program which is now absolved and or not it's all dissolved dissolved dissolved and no longer a thing a lot of people were speculating that Ares would go away along with it due to a tweet that came out from a supposed Ares Twitter profile that ended up being fake so the fake profile that was posing as a sustain well this is were gone there's no more areas sorry Ares is no more and then and then a bunch of interesting like kid guru themselves and a lot of other very credible and reputable you know um journalists and stuff were reporting on this saying that Ares was was gone it was going away but it turned out to be a fake account that kind of duped everyone huh and Asus eventually confirmed that Ares is here to stay so um so that's I don't know that's that's what's up with that do you have an opinion either way on Ares were you looking forward to an Ares branded card Paul or is like I feel like it's a little bit more exciting now that it's not something that Asus has to do because of GPP it's now something that they have fun I really feel like they're sticking with it because even even though Nvidia rolled it back and was like alright guys we're not gonna do that I feel like Asus is like no this is that wasn't because because Asus never said nothing directly and they never made a public statement you know as a result of GBP we're creating the area's brand it was always assumed you know and it's pretty I'm fairly confident that that's why it's happened sure but I feel like cases it just me like no it's what we wanted to do the whole time I mean this was intended yeah you keep doing it I don't know I have mixed feelings I I don't think it's like it's all the same cards - it's just the same exact designs of the ROG cards it's just like called Aries instead of ROG so yeah yeah I don't know I I'm fine with ROG I don't think there needs to be more and more sub brands for different companies because I think it's right it's it's more confusing yeah you know if a card is listed with an AMD radeon GPU then you know has an AMD radeon GPU even if it's an ACO Sergi card yeah I don't know it you know in part of me like I think it's kind of a twofer for asus and in one regard they're like well you know if we just carry on with ares then people just assume that we weren't involved with GPP and it won't be so obvious that we were doing this just because of GPP on the second hand I feel like they've probably already dumped a ton of money into branding this yeah they're invested at this point it'd be a huge loss if they just backed out all of a sudden right let's get rid of all the ares it's also stickers and then ares tags or whatever all the packaging all that for thousands and thousands of cards so yeah it's a 2 for free suits in the sense I would I would have to think but yeah that's that's what's going on there and then our final story here of the day or at least for this half of the show is from overclocked 3d dotnet reporting on EVGA x' plans to no longer use DVDs for their driver in place of USB sticks this is actually our good buddy old pal Jacob from EVGA who tweeted out that no more driver DVDs in future EVGA motherboards we love Jacob he's a good guy yes and he's never steered me wrong he's never lied to me so I would have to assume that his tweet is accurate and and precise he also mentioned that USB the USB drives would cost 20 times more than DVDs with the same files on them 20 times more and because of that he and I quote doubts that other manufacturers will switch to USB drives any time soon saying that it's about time someone sets the standard for 2018 so there are other manufacturers who do this to some degree asus does do USB stick drivers with some of their higher end higher-end ROG motherboards I think you also get a disc along with it I didn't your USB Drive with my rampage 6 extreme hey you did I did yeah I must have missed it pretty sure what did it look like I think the zenith and yeah it's it's like a little orgy well I'm missing out on a free USB Drive often looking at them but they're saying they're doing this with all their motherboards which is like a statement to make and a cool thing that you can say across the board whereas Asus has a ton of like budget motherboards where they cut every corner possible to sell a board a really great competitive price and they're not gonna want to do this with that right so yeah and yeah I mean how many systems honestly have optical media these days here's where you should click through to that's weak that article but oh my god there's an ad that plays before I can see the picture that's sweet week town come on you don't have you don't have you block going all right wait I don't oh wait is that it right there this thing no that's it's just a little USB stick it's it's probably one of these done here oh my god tweet Tim oh wait here we go oh no not that see oh there it is oh jeez my screen is touch screens list oh yeah we clicked on something first time it didn't so that's just tweaked M being crazy okay fine um cool EVGA good on you for setting some trends I hope other manufacturers follow and then it won't raise our motherboard prices by 20 times I agree okay you need to pull up your super chat you want your donations do not believe cells you're at today oh okay all right let me get around to that it's just in the meantime here I'm going to start telling us some Johnston's cuz I've gotten a few orders Johnson that a few orders have come through actually two orders to be more if you were a specific first ones our guests Johnson tiga Thank You Gus from Missouri goose he got the desk mat it's a big ol long one Kyle's using that right now it's doing a great job it's very long tracking the night movement and Rex Rex T from Cali right here in Cali got the Pug last set the single pup last I should say and the Star Wars black t-shirt the awesome hardware shirt if we didn't mention it before if you buy awesome hardware merch from either of our stores the proceeds are still split between us so John arranges that for us cuz he's awesome and we do that so you guys don't have to feel conflicted to store you back word it's very thoughtful of us weird I you're welcome I also have two orders one for Kevin Kevin you bought Jobson Kevin Johnson to you for picking up in evolution gaming desk and Johnson for Gus double Johnson Billie words in a circle pint glass thank you very much sure and I do have super chat pulled up here so let's read off some of your do nations those Inga X Kyle what do you think of your ROG rampage six extreme motherboard that we were just talking about thinking about getting one but want to see how you like the one you got I spent probably two months actually using mine on a daily basis and it's been perfectly fine I'm able to hit a decent overclock on my 78 9 B or a 79 80 XE and it's been stable it's been rock solid and especially if you're gonna take advantage of some of those higher end features like the dimmed 2 slot want double + BM e drives on there it's it's great it's a great board he did - oh it's also visiting ganks so be sure to read this one next I was just if you want to group them I thought oh yeah sure I be it ex also said the to married men saying they do not have $2,000 laying around go figure is that is that is that our wives are spending all over money or my wife makes money to my wife that makes money that from our company but she still works for it so I don't know that means I'm not sure if you're saying our wives are somehow gold diggers or something that's not true actually when I first met wifey sauce when we first started dating she had a job and I did not and she paid for literally everything I was the gold digger I was the gold I was just digging there was it's really that's why I did it was for her money he ain't messing with no broke girl's house broke wifey's I ain't messing with no broke wife he's that's that's that's my cringe comfort like cringe pump contribution for the day let's move on mb 67 for a 30 no and 37 cents as usual Kyle what do you look forward to seeing the most at Computex man um geez I don't know man it's so hard to find innovation these days I'm just looking for something that's different probably looking forward to seeing like a tray of Xiao long bao at didn't iPhones in probably yes probably oh my god I cannot wait for the food in Taipei oh but as far as you know I want to see some cool cases I really like checking out cases I want to see some cases with USB type-c on the front that have good smart anterior layouts that are no frills but just all function that still look good and yeah I mean what else are we lacking right now I feel like cases is a big one half priced memory just just freeze three memory there's a new line of memory it's six richer is that it costs half as much as memory now we called the deal Wow awesome Buddha knows right through buh-buh-buh-buh deem at 8:12 sorry for calling you Buddha hey Kyle would you ever have barnacle ease on stack attack or maybe Jays two cents uh yes I would consider almost anyone even if they weren't trustworthy or had any talents so Jay and Barna Cleese are definitely considerations and you know you never know I already had call on and that was fun [Laughter] fun you know yeah that's a good good burrito it was a good burrito yes it was yeah they did deliver quite literally but yeah you know special guests are definitely something that we're we're trying to push and yeah you know I can't I can't just keep beatin poor wifey sauce left and right you know if you should I need some sort of a challenge don't don't take that out of context in the game doing better than her world and stone okay important just so we'll see we'll see that we have our next straw hat I will tell you right now next Agra Tech will not be Wi-Fi sauce it'll be someone else straw hat brought you two dollars solve the freezing problem the freezing that's all that must have been back when the camera the camera froze a couple times yeah that was like so last 30 minutes again and then just say to dollar donation how do I show a rig I built for my brother how do you show a rig so if you want to get a rig on pin my PC you really need to follow mainly Kyle because he never use them and he'll usually tweets on Tuesday before awesome Hardware between one and one in four hours before the show usually yeah sometimes earlier than that but you just gotta kind of watch yeah cuz when he tweets is when he's looking that's when you got send your pictures you send it before then or whatever like it might show up yeah but um that's how you do it yep all right pup shepherd $10 wags wags wags wags wags since you missed them last time we miss your wags I always miss your wax but I apologize pup but your wags have been noticed senpai okay Phoebe ciao Valerie he always donate ten dollars very consistent what do you recommend for a CPU and a mother bowl and a ram combo under the $500 $1,000 maybe I'm a sitting on an ASUS Maximus impact six who knew my dinner was going to run off into the sunset you bring like dinner back to me it was almost 34 for canine snack Jesus Christ why am i didn't have to be so round can you uh please tell my next mirror to a cat so uh what do you recommend for a CPU and motherboard Ram combo under $500 thousand dollars I'm sitting on an ASUS Maximus impact six for the 4770k it's still good I don't need to upgrade but I would much I would very much like one um so you have 4770k wait Animax was impact six then those are both great components CPU motherboard and RAM combo I don't know man you could either go risin risin is really compelling at the moment or or get an 87 third K those are your choices right now so yeah I don't know I don't think you probably you probably don't need to spend all the money on high-end desktop either way 87 or BK if like gaming's your priority if you're gonna be doing like more multitasking more I don't know like multi-threaded applications are your priority over gaming then looking to rise into 2700 X would be pretty key large dog trying to large doggie trying to sniff your balls each other stuff where I want to be and require five Canadians hey guys what's the good editing and thumbnail programs on the cheap editing editing and thumbnail programs just get creative cloud fifty bucks a month very affordable I think that's affordable for having the whole suite of Adobe software I mean it's a lot cheaper than it used to be having to spend like fifteen hundred dollars yeah single avid or whatever but if you're really trying to like go super cheap with it but yeah but if you don't want to spend money if you're really on a budget GIMP it's similar to photoshop it's a bit of a learning curve I've I never got into GIMP to the to where I can use it the way I know Photoshop but you can do a lot of the same stuff that you can do with Photoshop and it's free yes GIMP is a good one yeah savage tech $2.00 what cooler would you recommend for a sixty seven hundred K at 4.8 gigahertz at one point four seven volts a cooler if you're looking for an air cooler Noctua make some really good coolers you'd probably want to go with a beefier air cooler for an overclocked 67 30 K especially at that frequency or you can get like a 240 millimeter a IO there's plenty of good ones out there some some brands from some good brands that I've come across include ones from Corsair deep cool even makes a pretty good one there Captain anorak series I know max NZXT Silverstone perhaps options up there any choices so many choices Rick Sanchez as soon as that DVR drops I'm on a rising platform not the GPUs but the memory that's docked me yep yeah I feel you man we're right there with you too much stay it's for its forecast to stay woke to drop in price and ya know if that's true or not but fingers crest yeah okay that's it for my half of the show yay hell yeah thank you very much for tuning in but don't go anywhere because Paul's half is right around the corner that will start streaming here in just a couple minutes if you're watching a slide go ahead and follow the link in the description below of my youtube video or you can just chill here if you're on Twitch and that's pretty much it if you want to do timestamps on my youtube video I would very much appreciate all the comments now that jazz and do I watch it yeah also if any of you have sent stuff - Kyle we are doing mail time on my half GU plus the second half of the show and want a bunch of boxes that have arrived putting all those be sure to check that out if you're 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