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Awesome Hardware #0152-B: Nvidia's Sketchy NDA, Next-Gen GeForce Prototype, 8TB NVMe SSD!

2018-06-26
oh yeah actually see the stream regain control just see it to see it first yeah that way we can actually say hello right when when we go live yeah instead of professional every show you're starting with us like picking our nose or something anyway it looks like we're live now to both twitch and YouTube more or less so hello and welcome to awesome hardware this is episode 152 side B if you missed side a go ahead and click the link in my video description here on YouTube or just stay where you are on Twitch you could probably watch a rebroadcast after the fact no you have to watch Saturday first otherwise your do you want a direct continuity nothing will make sense right all the jokes that we make like they're all callbacks to my half of the show it's true it's very intricate the way it's designed we we look we look younger inside a because it technically happened first and you'll be able to tell that you know or five o'clock shatters has grown and more and it'll throw you off but we 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today no burn Matt's not the best poor it's reasonable I have as much foam as you have beer I know it's like converted Cheers welcome to SEC the second half of episode 152 lost some hardware doesn't look that bad if I if I tilt it that's good it's whoa it's kind of like a hazy IPA it's hazy you can see little little bits of yeast floating around and stuff so prior to now we've been drinking Presidente which is a pilsner from the dominican republic which is which is which is pretty decent pretty good you know that blow me away there's so much more complexity to this though I'm yeah that's why I'm just I'm like there's layers trying to figure it all out snozzberries taste like snozzberries trying be a first under undercurrent of snozzberries oh yeah just it's actually very good it's you it's right on the eye I really do hope the wifey sauce is coming back because I just remembered that she drove us here so she's gone I either have to she wouldn't just go you take an uber or lyft home 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videocards calm well initially it was from high CDE oh yes video cards was talking about the heist de refusal to sign the NDA after claiming that it by nature attacks journalistic values and their reasoning for that was a it was kind of shifty to begin with that there was no product mentioned there was no mention of what product would be talked about which I guess kind of makes sense because if it's an NDA you don't want to reveal what product you're gonna talk about before they've actually signed it right also a blanket NDA it's a blanket NDA so then there's also like let's say basically Nvidia staying in this NDA that any confidential information that's provided to the party must be used solely for the benefit of Nvidia which kind of sounds like they're saying that you can't say anything negative about the products that this NDA pertains to which would definitely go against you know classic journalism being able to express your own opinion on such things but and then there's also the imposition of a five-year expiration on confidential information so potentially you if you sign this document does that mean you can't say anything negative about these products for five years you're tongue-tied essentially so there's all these questions and all the NDA also mentions specific trade secrets from Nvidia that can never be talked about what qualifies as a trade secret sure if YouTube is going oh yea there's no mermen okay sorry okay continue alright and it also prevents journalist from posting hypothesis or predictions based on confidential information so you wouldn't theoretically be able to post any sort of like rumor articles that even even if they were those rumors were sourced from third parties for example and I guess we should quickly point out that these these are these like red flags according to the article that were throwing up about this NDA as far as like my things they're saying like how dare they ask people to agree to these terms yeah exactly but but gamers Nexus which is what I was getting to actually released a video today where they actually hopped on a phone call with a real lawyer and asked him about the details in this NDA and it turns out that according to the lawyer it's not quite as I don't know deceiving as as people have initially thought where it seems pretty standard most of the things that they touch on even though they sound kind of fishy are probably not and it's it's still it'll still be interesting to see which tech reviewers decide to sign this NDA and which ones don't and the reasons for doing either or I personally don't have a huge issue with it especially after hearing that that phone call conversation I can't regurgitate everything that was said but go ahead and check it out on gamers Nexus this YouTube channel because there's a lot of good details there but I don't know I feel like I feel like this is something to make headlines but not necessarily a real issue so just in the interest of full disclosure I have not signed this NDA personally yet but it has nothing to do with any like theoretical shadiness or like egregious terms that I found in it was purely because I was distracted and hadn't gotten it gotten to it yet yeah I've just been busy I read this over again after people started sort of calling foul about it and I really didn't find anything that stood out to me as like again over the line as far as what they're asking of people I think it's just a matter of legalese being legalese it can often be written in a specific way to in order to provide again this is a blanket NDA it's made to be something that you sign once it's not something that you sign every single time in video Lots it launches a new product or anything like that and there are some terms in here that do provide them a little bit more protection for leaks of confidential information which they deal with all the time and my personal opinion is that if you are privy to this NDA and privy to information from Nvidia prior to launch and near journalists and you're doing your views or you're trying to provide feedback on a product someone who does break NDA and share confidential information or even goes so far as to talking about the NDA itself as gamers Nexus mentioned in their via video if you've signed this NDA the only reason you're able to talk about it right now is because it was published by this website and it is now part of the public domain right so I don't see anything horribly wrong about this there was one line in here that kind of made me hesitate and it was about like something of along lines of nothing or everything shall be done to benefit in video summary solely to the benefit of Nvidia but again most of my questions about this I think were dealt with to some degree in the bits of the gamers Nexus video that we were able to watch just before this and oh your video on YouTube is unlisted perhaps I switched it over to public just a moment ago and maybe double check that but try refreshing it guys it says it's public right now yeah it's public an app so I hit refresh guys but yeah confidential information is confidential information until it becomes public once it is public it is no longer confidential information so the seems pretty other the referrals in this document to confidential information and like a five year like like the the five year time limit on that this is all stuff that like if NVIDIA tells you something key to the inner workings of their business and then you go and share that like that's that's bad and they need to have some sort of legal recourse against that and that's what this is really all about right so anyway for anyone who's really freaking out about this or feels like Nvidia is trying to pull something over that doesn't seem to be the that wasn't my initial impression reading this on my own elsewise and it was further reinforced again by the gamers Nexus video which they were Steve he's he's he's smart he wouldn't just talk to a lawyer about it yeah good job so and something is legally binding as an NDA that's probably the best person to talk to you really so glad we cleared that up to some degree and I think I'll probably I'll probably sign the NDA soon because I kind of want to know what it's about well it's our job what NDA cow Oh what NDA sure I don't know why would we even mention that okay that's right moving on though also story about Nvidia and their next-gen PCB proto wait we're not allowed to talk about this because of the NDA but do we no I'm just kidding you almost got me there well the NDA does it is specific about like if we knew something mm-hmm then we couldn't discuss that something but I feel like an even in the past prior to the to whatever language is in that in the new version of it in the past even if we have discussed something that's a rumor about something that we did know additional information about I think like this is published on a website so we can say that here's this what's published on the website if we'd say and we actually know that's true right yeah then adding information to the public domain which sure we can talk a little bit more directly to Nvidia about that though to be sure but for the time being not to mention we haven't signed any NDA's yet oh yeah but it's done I meant what what up what up asan I actually met him at Computex this year nice yes he wrote the article BCC of tech and this is technically a leak initially from reddit it seems to be a test board that Nvidia is using to test upcoming GPUs which were assuming is gonna be a Geforce gaming card targeted at you know a consumer market but we don't know but we don't know for sure it could be is all speculation could be like a turing card could be the size of the there's no GPU area you just the dimensions there kind of reflect what you typically see on a g-force card it's a larger chip there is 12 gigs of GTD or six memory which we can actually see from the memory chips that are surrounding the word that where the die would go it's we're talking about a 384-bit memory interface a memory bus interface with three eight pin connectors for power although that doesn't necessarily mean that whatever reference card this is going to be eventually is gonna have triple power connectors this could just be for for testing the full potential or power limits of the card and then you know we it's doesn't necessarily know it's espect that they would over build a test board in order to provide the chip with as much power as it could possibly want yeah they're testing the various limits and voltage voltage delivery and stuff but then there's also a second gen brought to the consumer front yet as the Titan V currently has two of these connectors on board but you can't actually get to use these cards through envy links so again like Paul said the this board might just be over engineered because it's a testing board so there's really little that we have to go off here there's a single mini displayport just for testing WCF tech estimates 672 gigabytes a second bandwidth which is far more than any consumer grade geforce card at the moment there are four blower fans that are spotted at the top of the V RMS for n power delivery so one could expect higher quality higher quality power system on the reference cards and yeah I mean I guess the best-case scenario is that this means a potential gtx 1180 is is around the corner hopefully sooner than later but we'll have more details for you guys as they come to light if you're looking at it from like the pure like I'm excited about next-gen stuff you could easily look at this and speculate on that but it can just as easily be a test board for something like Turing or something on the enterprise level that really doesn't have much application towards the consumer space right but who knows I think the most significant thing about this is just that the the gd-r gd-r 6 that they're working with and that it's 12 gigabyte configuration yeah and the memory bus interface is also something to at least acknowledge 384-bit isn't radically different than what we've seen in the past but I think we just a solid memory configuration like if this is the next-gen gtx 1070 that'd be super sweet probably not that's a lot of memory for 1070 successor for sure current 1070 has 8 gigs the high end 1080 TI has 11 so jumping up to the next step you know making making a nice flagship waking the highest ends Kennedy making the super high ends the high end has been definitely done in the past so yeah I wouldn't be surprised to see a 12 gig buffer on next-gen next-gen GPUs I mean heck they've had enough time to work on it that's true it's been what two years now since the GTX 1080 launched yeah alright moving on though this is an article from prag de I believe it's a German website so I don't know if you have the option to translate it there oh yeah yes we've done Google Translate cool wolf in sheep's clothing and a 4k panel it works in the cue HD monitor so basically this article is talking about the the the 1440p monitor that you have a quad HD monitor that you have might actually be using a 4k panel as they've learned as this this journalist has learned from panel producers and manufacturers the cost of producing a 27 inch 4k uhd panel is now at least as expensive or even cheaper than a quad HD panel perhaps because I don't know there's there's a Jeff I don't know I don't know if the man is really it but maybe that there's so many 4k panels being produced that they've just gone down in price or something and quad HD still isn't quite as popular I guess would be that fabs saw 4k is a more viable up upgrade from 1080 and more mainstream than 1440 so they invested more and manufacturing technology for that yeah but a lot of gamers still kind of keep an eye out for like a solid mid-range well priced 1440 monitor because you can actually game on it without having to have a crazy GPU configuration right and you get a high refresh rate yeah and you can often get a high refresh rate with that than with 4k sure and and so what the article is stating is that in the event of certain supply shortages where quad HD panels are hard to come by that 4k panels may be used so essentially they're just down scaling that resolution to quad HD which at first at first glance might not seem like a huge deal but but this could pose some issues because there are a couple ways that you could tell if the if the quad HD monitor you were sold is actually using a 4k panel for instance the listed resolution and pixel size should match up for example a 3840 by 2160 panel should have a pixel size of 0.16 millimeters and a quad HD panel should have a size a pixel size of 0.23 millimeters so if you see on the spec sheet that you have a 2560 by 1440 panel but the pixel size is 0.16 millimeters that could indicate that there was some interpolation going on which is kind of interesting but that I mean pixel size isn't really super common I think on a lot of spec sheets for panels these days the other way that you could tell potentially is just visually by looking at the panel especially when you're viewing certain test patterns there's an example on the website or even small text could potentially look blurry if a 4k panels being used because of the down scaling this blurriness could take place because of again the interpolation that's that's going on in the down scaling process so and this may also limit you know your maximum refresh rate being a 4k panel according to the article there's no way as of now that you could actually flash the firmware to allow for native 4k resolution so don't that's my question right don't go out and buy you know a bunch of 1440p panels and hope that you can flash them to 4k that seems to not be the case as of now but it's something to be aware of and use the pencil trick use the pencil trick yes it's highly effective we're unsure how many models are being handled or changed in the market right now or being affected by this trend we don't even know how how widespread this trend is so we'll keep it we'll keep a close eye on this as well hopefully pred et has some updates in the future moving on Michigan researchers are claiming that they've created the tiniest computer in the world this is an article from hexxus and the computer is called the m3 which is a point three millimeter cube computer developed by University of Michigan what you see there is the computer on the right and a grain of rice oh that's rice yes so so it looks absolutely gargantuan I thought it was like a sperm I don't know maybe icing I see they put the the mini computer on a cake that's impressive how do you solder these wires that's you've got to have a machine do that I'm pretty sure we're probably that is that is super duper tiny like almost microscopic I mean not microscopic so cute it's so tiny and I guess people are still debating on whether or not this can be called a computer because it has very minimum functionality for example it lacks the ability ability to hold data once it's powered down so it only has volatile memory it doesn't have like actual hard storage or anything like that and that's actually because University of Michigan removed the fixed storage capacity just to reduce the size even further that's cheating that was a compromise that they made and you know and there are certain applications where you don't actually need non-volatile memory so you know I'm curious to see I'd be curious to know how much bigger the computer would be if they if they added in hard storage for example a tiny computer running on a ram drive it's garbage just just Ram do I need to make a new form factor for this though yes yes micro micro ITX mini micro nano nano ITX man oh yeah that's a good one Noi TX super nano micro nano micro micro nano I don't know I TX micro micro nano I TX mini that was a nice ring to it let's go with that rolls off the tongue they've also switched exchange diodes for switched capacitors for light tolerance so apparently this non P non-volatile memory by the way non-volatile correction jet perhaps this is some this is a light powered PC apparently it's got key components including a processor Ram photo voltaics I'm not sure maybe that's the nodes the are the light capacitors that I mentioned and also has some wireless how the whole takes would be like animal packs like a solar panel Oh a solar panel okay yeah that makes sense and then also wireless transmitters and receivers certain applications at the m3 has been used for so far include oil reservoir mount monitoring biochemical process monitoring surveillance which is kind of creepy tiny snail studies sounds cute and cancer studies this is probably the most worthy application thanks to its highly accurate temperature monitoring ability I think it can actually monitor temps to a like an error of like point one degrees Celsius which is really accurate it can be used to monitor temperatures inside of tumors and that can better help doctors decide how to evaluate cancer therapies and things like that so this thing's actually been put to use and and this is changed in the game in certain fields so that's kind of cool but let's talk about something that's maybe a little bit more relevant and usable for for us techies including the Samsung SSD this the Samsung crazy SSS deeds it's enterprise so you know you probably won't see it in many gaming builds or anything but they've crammed they've managed to cram 8 terabytes on to the next gen pcie 3.0 by 4 nvme SSD your your new read we're going to already yeah I'm glad I'm glad they give us the option for old reddit old read it it's nice of them this articles from Tom's Hardware and this SSD is absolutely insane it's not much bigger than your typical m2 drive it's 110 millimeters by thirty point five millimeters just eight point five millimeters wider than m2 it's actually part of the nf1 form factor not m dot two but it's focused on enterprise users and same interface yes it looks like it's still got that like M key or you know beaky or whatever but you can definitely tell that it's it's quite a bit wider so I'd be curious to see if if you could actually stick this in like a see 370 motherboard oh thanks Tom's Hardware for once again posting it completely irrelevant video to the thing I'm trying to watch what the heck no they do this all the time it irritates the crap out of me no they just embed videos that are completely audited related to the thing we're talking about in there it's like you're gonna get more views on them or something I don't know I don't know really bad it's annoying really bad strategy okay oh yeah that's that's what we're talking about so you can also tell that you know or one of the benefits of just having a bigger PCB a wider form factor is to cram all those nand chips on there looks like they've got eight of them or so maybe security tag yeah yeah so sixteen and these are 512 so that means they're 512 gig man packages DRM cash on this foga which is insane soldered to the PCB each package has 16 layers of 256 gigabit three bit v-nand chips so we're using vertical nand here stack in that and it's gonna use a brand new high-performance controller that we don't know exactly what model it's gonna be yet but it is gonna support nvme 1.3 as the protocol and pcie 3.0 bytes for connection i would assume that it's gonna be a phoenix controller as we've seen with past nf1 prototypes from samsung it's gonna allegedly hit 30 100 megabytes per second sequential reads and 2 thousand megabytes per second sequential writes very fast really good for datacenter use offers for Killip kilobyte random read performance up to 500 thousand i ops in four kilobyte write per write performance up to 50,000 ions it's also going to have 12 gigs of lpddr4 memory to accelerate the data processing and improve energy efficiency and this will all be backed by a three-year warranty no mention of price because it'll probably make us cry but there you go I think one of their one of Samsung's partners already already was boasting about putting like 72 of these in and like a raid or something and having like half a petabyte of bean and flash it's cool I wonder if they need some sort of new hardware though I mean just cuz the wider size I mean I'm sure there's tons of other boards with MDOT to inter interfaces that these would the plug would physically be compatible with but right but wouldn't actually fit in the slot on the motherboard because I don't know what what nvme protocol is being used right now for like mainstream boards nvme what do you mean like this one says that it supports the nvme 1.3 protocol yeah didn't know they were versioning that I hadn't seen hadn't seen those yet I imagine it would be faster transfer speeds and yeah so maybe maybe that means Oh PCIe wooden three 3.0 by four it's not PCIe general board no no yeah that was a correction in the article but I guess time will tell if if this is actually a viable viable component to put into a gaming PC or something like that that'd be interesting that because they'll be chemical to test out it'll either work maybe at a slower speed that's you know reduced because you know the protocols slower on that board in particular or it just won't work at all Donald from chat says vertical mount I think that's true actually like I have some Asus boards that have a vertical MDOT to mount I like the dim to wear maybe on the dim dot to I mean it's really just a matter of like widths well I don't know if there's anything beyond just the physical physical form factor preventing you from plugging this into an existing MDOT to slot yeah that would be a big question but if if if that's the only limiting factor then yeah I mean some of those vertical ones have an array space width wise to support something like that oh yeah I know what you're mad there might be like the sticks just standing straight up okay yeah so we'll have to see if the what's the the nf1 the most about to see if nf1 includes any requirements on like the software side other than just the physical form factor difference yeah and the slut will also have to take whatever key that is oh it'll take it take it it'll like it enjoy it every minute all right before this gets out of hand let's move on to our final article for tech news which is about ek ek expanding their liquid cooling kits with their ek kit RGB 240 and ek kit RGB 360 this is an article once again from WCC F Tech and these kits will will include everything you need for a custom loop if you want to call your CPU so no GPU looks like no GPU is here but if you want to do a nice little loop on your processor you've got everything here from the waterblock which is an ek supremacy Evo RGB you also get either the 240 or the 360 cool stream PE radiator so those are 40 millimeters thick which kind of gives a nice balance between thickness and performance I've used the PE radiators before they're super high quality very reliable they do a good job and then there's the X rays 140 Revo d5 RGB PWM pump rez combo which obviously everything here has RGB it seems pump 4s combos are really nice they're easy no fuss kind of easy to mount in your in your case the integrated solution definitely frees up a lot of space and it looks like a shorter reservoir but it's a d5 it's a d5 this is a really high quality pump I think it's their flagship pump actually from ek that is gonna be B even good if you wanted to expand this loop in the future it's gonna have enough power to it to keep the flow rate up and saturate the whole loop and then you've got the ek Vardar Evo 120 er RGB fans which feature things like things that you would expect from from radiator fans like high static pressure and obviously RGB soft tubing this is going to be a soft tubing kit obviously they're not expecting you to bend your own tubes here so it is gonna include a number of ACF fittings and cryo fuel clear fluid from ek as well with all the mounting accessories you might need pricing for the 240 model starts at 399 euro and the 360 model is gonna go for 439 euro so that seems to be what like 350 and and 400 us I'm not exactly sure on the conversion right now yeah but it'll be slightly less for for the United States prices I guess that's I guess that's I don't know if you're saving a ton of cash as opposed to like buying all the parts all the cart just a little bit I think you're probably saving a bit from the bundle but you got to be you got to be serious about your about your cooling you got to really want it to spend that much on just just cooling the kits are nice for people who have never done water cooling before because it's got like kind of all the all the all the basics that you would need to put it all together and you can kind of have that that assurance that you're gonna be able to set up your water cooling loop for your CPU yeah so like if you took this like the 360 and you added a water block like a GPU block it's gonna be a hundred two hundred and twenty probably plus a few other fittings and whatever so say another two hundred euro then you can get a full water cooling loop for you know 650 to 700 again that's euros so hard to say how much that will be u.s. dollars right so barter cooling is expensive but you can't makes good products so yeah for those who want that type of boom here's another option for you and especially for anyone who's interested in that but maybe hasn't done it before just want something that they has everything contained what's nice is that you could easily expand this and you can easily upgrade the tubing to like hardline you'd have to buy new fittings of course but it's it's a super flexible solution unlike a lot of standard arrows that are expandable but there are a lot a lot more limitations to those this is all copper right there the aluminum line has a specific name that isn't included here comes the primacy those coppers yeah talk copper too so that is nice good all right cool moving on to our next segment we are bringing back ask the audience where Paul and I ask you guys a series of questions three questions to be exact and then Paul and I have to sort of guess what your answers are to see how well we know you and and I feel like we've been we've been apart from you guys for so long but I think it's good to be reacquainted we've gone down different paths perhaps we have but I should mention that I don't have a lower thirds here for some reason for I asked the audience I'm not sure why so right now the lower thirds awesomesauce news I mean sure good Roback still got my face it's actually my profile picture on YouTube I think still so yes okay let's let's dive into our first question what are we asking the audience this week Val all right this is very topical because this is going on still basically we want to know how many games have you guys already purchased from the steam summer sale we're gonna get an idea of just how addictive you guys are to to buying games and and if you really have a problem or if you're more on the moderate side and you know you're only gonna buy the games that you're seriously interested in playing whereas I know some people including myself at one time not anymore we just buy games because they were really cheap and got good reviews but that never ended up playing them and then you just end up with this giant Steam library and you feel like shit because you've only played the quarter of the games that's Steve like Steve who often has multiple copies of the same game so that he can like share it with his wife and other people who come over for lands and stuff well Steve has like an extra Steam account for friends he does that he keeps populated with with active steam licenses if that's not indication of the heart like a friend happens to stop by and he's like hey you want to play some video games he's like log onto the Steam account and we can play I have three of everything you have no excuse and you will you will play those games with Steve and he will enjoy it Steve just forces all of his friends to play with him Steve Steve I don't miss him as much as you do though cuz I just last weekend haha so so the options are Oh actually let's ask the next question while we give you guys a chance to answer the next question is how much RGB is in your PC right now fairly personal it is very very personal I'm trying to you know push the boundaries of of live of live talk shows so yeah obviously RGB has been around for several years now and it's a very polarizing topic some people love it some people hate it and some people just don't care so Paul and I are gonna guess pretty soon here where you guys lie but let's go ahead and answer the first question Paul how many how many games do you think on average our average consumer buys or has bought already for the steam summer sale okay um I'm gonna vote for one to two okay and what and just to make things interesting what percentage do you think that will comprise 32% 32% yes you think about a third of our audience right now has already bought one to two games slightly slightly less than a third okay also comprising the majority which means that I will win and answer this question correctly okay well that's the answer I was gonna choose but since you already chose it I'm gonna do three to five games I'm gonna say three to five games three to five so yeah and I'm gonna say that 13% viewers have already bought three to five games 13% with three to five and somehow that's the winner no I don't think you're doing your math correctly no not that it's the winner I'm not saying if you're but you just chose it as the winner you just said three to five is gonna be the winner well I'm seeing which of us is more accurate with our percentage well I wasn't aware of that I don't know I didn't know that just percentage accuracy was okay all right fine most key thing okay fine then all argue that it's going to be the highest percentage at thirty one percent okay that's that's my long as you're over twenty five percent that I think it can technically work out yep I'm price is reading it prices writing it right now so did you say thirty five percent thirty one thirty one percent thirty one percent five sneaking ready can in one yes right results go ahead zero whoa zero wins with 60% of the vote nobody gives two Wow shits about the steam summer sale but I mean look at how OnPoint I was initially with my initial answer of 13 percent does that exactly that's exactly what I I mean if we were playing it that way I would have nailed it technically you won based on the way we decided to that none of us chose zero to angle it Wow everyone's just so over the steam summer everyone people have too many people have too many steam games I think already yeah they've already bashed steam sales they've bought so many game right that now people are buying games at a faster rate than new games are coming out new desirable games are coming out and that's how we're gonna read reach the gaming singularity is when the number of games produced has more mass the number of people playing the games than the games will play causing them to collapse into a black hole I'm not sure that's how it works but I hope it doesn't work that way that sounds scary but at that point I think all Steam games would be free so oh that's it works out for everyone I think all right bring on the black hole pregame show everyone okay let's let's talk about our last question here the last question for you guys is who should run the first president who should run for president of the United States next some of these in here this is the fifth we've tried to veer away from politically charged questions well well we don't have to argue why we think the thing we do the choice is right but I'm more curious to hear what the audience has to say of course we're asking the audience about their opinion on this not us we're just we're innocent we just get to guess what we think the audience would pick this doesn't reflect on us at all but before so exactly assuming for the sink of just just just assessing this question that you've put together here yes with zero input from me by the way why what's wrong with this so other than presumably like I don't want to say this so the most viable option here on this list would have to be Donald Trump simply because he is the current president your options you're providing us beyond that none of the other options are a person besides a five-year-old and Kanye West which are arguably not right so well I guess this would be a good question for again this is this is to see how well we know our audience this will say more about them than than any rights or things on this list I can't wait I can't wait to see what the answer is because you know that that will whatever is answered yeah most will determine the actual president liked it it will be proof in the meantime though it's time for us to make our choices for how much our GB is in the fans pcs okay so none or a lot you know what I think I chose first on the first one so okay I am I want to believe it's a lot but my gut is saying it's just some because there's still a lot of people who built their systems before the RGB craze so I'm going to say some but not a lot of RGB there's at least maybe one to three components in your bill that has already be lighting whether you've configured it to actually do the RGB like color changing cycle or you've just set it as one static color that still counts as RGB in my opinion so I'm gonna say at least some RGB has infiltrated most of our viewers builds at this point based on the first question I'm gonna go with zero the zero answer cuz that definitely one for the first time so none it's our RGB is a devil and are we gauging percentages here again we can just for fun for this ace over 50% okay and I'm gonna say 38 38 percent for some 38 percent have some which leaves like oh wait 10 percent or less that for lots of RGB I'm gonna say 40 to 42 instead upping it to 42 all right I'm upping it before you Cal's last second change has given him the lead oh did ya got me closer what did you what did you said before that it was first it was like 30 38 and then I upped it to 42 Wow I'm doing pretty well actually RGB has has become so such a thing on the market so quickly I feel like right also this terrible super Sam thing at the most ruffle all right so I lose I mean none was second but definitely you win there Tao Wow okay and then Allah Allah quarter people have 25% copious amounts the rigs are dripping an RGB see and this is why I'll only four passed the audience's because I've learned so much about you guys yes I know all of you personally now based on what your rig looks like it's just an extension of your own beautiful faces alright let's get this over with quickly alright who should run for president of the United States next I mean I guess I could I should also point out like Donald Trump he's he started off his his re-election campaign like a week after he was elected so he's already there he's doubling down already for sure he's doubling down on himself is that who should that's who is who is yeah we got Kanye West of course any five-year-old a magic 8-ball alright so I guess I get to go first this time what's the best choice here besides Donald Trump what's the lesser of know eight seven evils alright any five-year-old as it may be Kyle's left net and five-year-old and Google assistance is but see it's it's pre-programmed I can't coin tosses or potato jeez I really left you with left us with a lot of great options I feel like you can't go wrong with most of these I'm gonna choose your left nut okay okay I was left nut because it's on the left that's what I always leans towards the left yeah your left nut but I can't give her a percentage anyway there's too many choices to make variables that's true so ah there we go and I'm gonna say I'm gonna have to go with potato Kyle's going with potato potato just seems right so who will win light nut or potato potatoes never let me down in life or ever potato has always been there for me already yep love that there you go hell yeah nice hell yeah with a double double try excited about Cal's left nut in second place tied with potato stupid potato tied the United States Presidents that's a great day in America baked potato potatoes vodka Russia obviously this conspiracy what's Mexico uh and now we do QA jobs oh no I'm sorry Ted my pcs been my PC this is a segment where you guys submit photos of your crappy rigs and Paul and I tell you how crappy they are good no most of them are actually pretty pretty decent rigs we just give you some pointers and suggestions suggestions on how to make them nicer so the first one is from Gunther Gunther Dixon with the core i5 4690k 16 gigs of Corsair ddr3 and a sous z97 a motherboard of Corsair h-60 liquid cooler a GTX 960 inside of an NZXT s340 case so looks like we've got a black and blue theme going on here custom custom sleeved cables which look pretty nice yeah it's kind of interesting how you have your 24 pin ATX routing over that that sort of reservoir bar inside of the case usually I see people just touch it in a little bit earlier beforehand but showing it off yeah you're showing off you know you're letting your freak flag fly fly peacock feathers are are all out and it looks like your eight pin cable is kind of stretched across your vrm heatsink almost almost fortuitously a little bit I would probably tuck that up in the top left corner if possible there's gonna be a pastor up here yeah yeah there should be but all the other cables look really good cable management is just really good apart from that one little that one little detail I'll also say that you could probably take off the sticker on your your Nick on the Rio Rio there on the motherboard the Ethernet one I mean it does match technically because it's blue but it also has the yellow fonts on it and it's a nitpicky thing but I guess that's a good thing that I have to be 7/8 picky because the system is mostly pretty much good to go there's not a lot to complain about here you could match up your fans in the case you have a clear one not up top and just a regular stock NZXT case fan at the back I usually like to see those two fans matching because they're so close together and it helps tie things together it also looks like you painted your SSD to be blue or to have some blue accents there which that's that's nice it's good to the Samsung 850 Pro yeah the Samsung label usually that's orange on that right I appreciate that yeah so that's a little detail there looks like you got the right shade of blue there and that's the other thing is that the blue in your cables actually matches the blue and the case perfectly where with blue you go you often see have the two types of like the sort of royal blue that you have here and then like the baby blue kind of like lighter blue that was kind of a little bit older that you found on the older generation boards but this matches up perfectly so good job I agree with everything Kyle said the only thing I really wish here is that this gtx 960 was a different card like a 970 or one just one of the ones that has the six pin or the eight down on this end right and it's really a minor thing again similar to the other nitpicky things cow mentioned i just feel like if that was going straight up to a plug down here at the end of the graphics card a lot cleaner just it just feel a bit cleaner yeah but the 960 is a good pairing with the i5 4690k that you have so you know don't lose too much base over it just for the bit yeah very nice very well done with the color scheme and everything final thing you've got a single blue LED fan here at the top I feel like either making both fans led or you know or getting rid of that onerous and somehow my I don't know yeah right right thank you since one of the clear fans it's not clear heels that status but and also only having LEDs at the top of your case we're just from one source also kind of casts like harsh shadows on various parts of your belt and it doesn't look quite as evenly lit as if you were to have multiple sources of lighting in your case so by taking Paul suggestion actually adding like another LED fan at the back ear case or even at the front you could sort of even out that that lighting but overall looks good thanks Gunther Thank You Gunther next up we have woven scout woven scout with his build which is a core i5 7600 K with a cooler master 240 light gigabyte h 270 gaming 3 motherboard eight gigs of crucial ddr4 and Asus GTX 1066 gigabyte with Arctic Exelero aftermarket cooler on it extreme for plus a monster can for support good measure and 128 gig ad to nvme SSD inside of the corsair 100 arm yeah interesting Wow this is the only picture we have I think so it's it's fairly low quality okay but it was all we had and I thought it was an interesting build so I picked it anyway it looks like you've outgrown the case just right off the bat everything is so cramped in here I mean you granted you have you were able to fit a monster can in there but still it looks like your hard drives just chill them at the bottom that the floor your case not really mountain to anything and it looks just really feel foster phobic just looking at this picture then you go for a bigger case I mean the 100-hour is great it's a great value item but it's nowhere near like a mid-range to high-end case for some of the component that you have in here I'm not I'm not liking the monster can yeah I got it I gotta say the monster can just there's things you can put in a case that give it a little bit of flair and maybe also act as a GPU support and you've probably definitely definitely need that GPU support since you have a massive aftermarket cooler on a GTX 1060 which I would also be kind of curious like how effective that cooler is maybe it is maybe you've got a great overclock on your GTX 760 with that you've also got a bunch of heat sinks stacked on top of it for additional cooling he sent the GPU maxes out at 55 C Oh all right well there you go I mean that's that's being effective I know those Arctic Exelero extreme coolers are pretty effective when you get a GPU that they're compatible with yeah I just feel like removing that can would provide easier air flow out of your CPU cooler because right now it's blocking a pretty significant piece of that as far as easy ease of air flow coming through from the front end take fans and also just it's a can like it's like it's kind of an eyesore doesn't really yeah wish you know it's not like an action figure like you know what looks very calm you see like action fingers or figurines and something like that it's like it's kind of cool because it looks like more of a diorama when you go to college and you drink like handles of alcohol and then you saved the handles of alcohol and put them up on the shelf as decoration that's that's not it's not a good decoration the same thing goes with the can empty I assume it's empty like half-drunk he just replaces it everyday he cracks up in a new monster but yeah I agree with Paul there are brackets for sale to correct the issue of GPU sag but I'm sure you could find one that works with your aftermarket cooler here and that would open up some airflow at the front of your case whether whether or not you really need that airflow it just doesn't look all that great to have a monster can and you're in your computer I'm gonna side with Paul on that one and it looks like you only have one stick of RAM in there what I can tell maybe one for take advantage of looks no only looks like the rightmost slot is populated eight gigs of crucial easier for so maybe I don't know get another one of those and pop it into dual channel mode and take advantage of that consider relocating that hard drive up to one of these five and a quarter inch base an adapter you get an adapter for that your cable management is pretty clean yeah I mean for a 100 are its yeah I'm good so there you go yeah I think you could benefit from a new case GPU sag bracket and hard drive reallocation more more memory good suggestions all right thank you thank you wolven scheduling scout Todd I'm mr. Todd with an i7 8700 K 4.9 gigahertz an h7 quad Lumi from cryo rig the gigabyte Z 370 ultra gaming motherboard 2 by 8 gig sticks of tritons e RGB the GTX 980 g1 gaming from gigabyte inside of the fractal design mesh fic hey I like that case it's got enough room but it's also very small for what for a mid Tower it's a really clean build actually cable management is really good the Metra 5c makes it easy but everything's routed in the appropriate grommet and cut out it looks like you've pretty much got just like a black theme going on when when when the system's not powered up and then when it is you've got some RGB obviously from the memory and the wind force cooler the cryo rig the h7 quad Louie I think the first thing that stands out to me and this is just the nature of your power supply is that you have those red PCIe connectors this man will take power supply will take ya this is a trend that died a while back so this must be an older power supply and I'm glad this trend died because they Victor's just look terrible in my opinion they don't really match with anything even like red accents in your system yeah my wife's back it sounds like she didn't desert me after all mm-hmm or it's an intruder failing all my shit right now either one either one either way at least we're not alone as I would also suggest removing the SLI covers for your graphics card simply because there like that green or turquoise or blue color I've seen SLI finger covers that are all black before that I would be okay being left on these just stand out a little bit there they don't match with the rest of the system and removing those isn't gonna provide it you know those aren't doing a crazy amount of anything when it comes to protection of those fingers right so what was the processor here so you have an 80 700 K at almost 5 gigahertz I wonder if your attempts would go down a bit if you added another intake fan at the top this didn't take fan this set as an intake right I couldn't tell because of the angle yeah it looks like it okay it looks like it to me but I think another fan there would be some good especially in the metro pcs just got all that mesh at the front obviously kind of unimpeded airflow at the front so I don't know having another fan up there would aim it right at that quad Lumi and I think it would shave off a couple degrees which couldn't hurt on an overclocked 8,700 okay let's be honest it would also balance out the front the single fan that's looking a little oh yeah right yeah you've definitely prioritized it for the GPU which i think is also a good call but give that CPU some love to but that's pretty much all I got for that it's pretty clean looking system so thank you mr. Chad next up we have Excalibur Excalibur our 7 1700 gtx 980ti for the win 3a be 350 pro for motherboard 16 gigs of DDR for 3200 inside of once again at mesh if I see that's coincidence I didn't realize when I was picking these that they were mesh if I sneeze back-to-back but looks like he just took the advice that I just gave which is having to intake fans at the front yeah which looks very nice it's evened out and both the CPU and GPU are getting equal amounts of airflow there and you've also got some figurines in here looks like is that the the monkey the ape from I'm overwatch Carl no Winston George yes that's the next thing I was gonna say it's baby it looks like baby Winston yeah baby a little baby Winston very cute and then we also have a Metroid I'm just like talking about the figurines now I've been distracted so I blinded Metroid attacking a broken can of spray paint I'm not sure what that is so fast yes but then I like the badges on the bottom on the power supply shroud okay add some add some some charisma to the system and it looks like you've matched it up it looks like you're going for some some teal accents here with the ring of the AMD Wraith stealth cooler I think that's our a stealth or maybe it's a spire and then a teal on the geforce card looks really nice the cable sleeving is really like like your cable management is very clean but I'll say that the cable extensions that you're using look a little bit frayed are they they just don't look a super straight like you see in a lot of showpiece builds and I think that's just a matter of training the cables even even though like they're in like in this current condition that they're even hard to train because once they're you know once these cables get Warped it's hard to bring them back to just that perfect smooth curvature and straightness so I'm not sure what can be done about that but no I can't speak to the full time like location of this PC but it looks like it might be on the floor Halas triggers a big faux pas just a big a big no-no halls pin is sending any computer for awesome hardware he's getting getting angry if that is the case then this layer of dust here on top of the power supply shroud yeah it's probably going to have built up a lot faster there than it would have if you were to have taken this PC which looks pretty nice and it looks like you've done a fair amount of investment in the aesthetics of maybe move that up somewhere you can actually see it and somewhere that you know to accidentally kick it with your foot you can use somewhere they won't get super dusty all the time you can tell he leaves us on before because the cables are still plugged in the back beyond that I would say this PC mostly needs a CPU cooler upgrade because the the Wraiths spire or I believe that's the spire maybe that you got in there is not bad by any stretch it's a good like stock CPU cooler but you got a 1080 TI in there you've spent a decent amount of money on that maybe consider upgrading your CPU cooler to kind of be more online with that high-end piece of kit right and although you're using a be 350 motherboard which I believe is from asrock which is a crazy good for power delivery you might be able to get yourself some lower temperatures may be some better and sound some some quieter operation with that yeah maybe even a better overclock that today he has gonna be giving off some serious heat under load yeah and that heat is gonna go straight into that dinky little stock cooler for your CPU so yes thank you but thank you very much Excalibur and then finally we have Jason he is very self aware of how atrocious this build is he said I figured you guys would enjoy this one it's four to nine years old so it's a pretty wide range on floor on floor sagginess dust cabling and go have fun gentlemen half 9:32 that's an old-school case I five 4690k overclocked to four point three nine gigahertz and an ASA tech 240 a IO 16 gigs of hyper X and we have a gtx 970 from msi inside of yeah half 932 we don't even get a painted interior in here and just look at these picture I mean the dust on that power supply is insane that's a good power supply yes 1000 yes I still have my HX 750 going strong damn that sag holy moly that's some serious sag but it's also because just the cables I think are just dragging it down it looks like I mean where do you even begin Abel sit down we didn't even begin and look at the the first picture with the CPU you can see the hard drive just Harjo just kind of hanging out three-ball in it that's that's a bold choice for a spinning mechanic right I'm sure it's fine if it's just sitting there and I mean obviously he's been using it for a while sure it's probably just fine functionally CDP no but certainly looks awkward and I mean you're over there why not just get the adapter for it for the five and a quarter inch it can fit right there it's perfect it's good to go you're not even plugged into the the the second optical drive there it's just chillin we've got some of the clear heels clear heels maybe fanboy clear plastic red LED fans at the top yeah so just just a piece of work a laundry list of egregious egregious pimp my PC faux pause here and I don't I don't know where to begin should we even attendance if you like me just present this as an example of like what not to do what not to do the other thing is like the 9:32 if i ever it's been a while since i built in the half 932 I think there is some space behind the motherboard tray there's gaps here right so there might be some ability to rewire this thing it doesn't seem like he cares at all you've also got the like to eat the eight pin the CPU main cpu main connector here plugged in there routed eight at least it's tucked behind the graphics card tucked behind the graphics card God for that and then coming back down to the power supply there was some thought put into it yeah but yeah this this makes thee cuz you know that I did that joke video of how not to build a PC where I tried to break every rule in the book in PC building and I feel like that build looks a thousand times better than this one so you really wrote the book on how to not build a PC and sometimes that's the most effective example is what not to do so thank you for but but also Jason also a good example of why I pet my PC ultimately is is it's just a vapid you know facade of vacuous suggestions for aesthetic purposes because this PC according to Jason is four to nine years old I don't know what happened in that mysterious five year gap of how old this PC might be right but obviously for at least four years this PC is been working just fine so who are we to judge it's true yeah I guess joke's on us huh I guess so goddamnit anyway nice thank you Jason for your submission thanks all you guys for sending in stuff for cutting my PC yep and yeah we're gonna end the show we're gonna end the show with some quick donation yes we did all these get replaced I guess alright great thank you so Dennis Dennis Rigden $5 nd a stream lol u ll whoa nd a stream tight about the end video we're not ending this stream though nothing's NDA I'm not gonna pull an Nvidia on you guys it's not like followed all the rules for open transparent no reason for us not to get our gtx 1180 s okay i want to bazinga X 5 dollars leaving drunk leaving wife drunk and passed out in motel PI to follow soon wait what you talking about your wife are you sure he's not talking about his wife I assume it's your wife I don't know leaving wife drunk and passed out in motel PI to follow soon III don't understand what this all means but I kind of don't want to know I don't like the PI part well I'm wrong with PI now I'm just like looking over my shoulder waiting for wife he starts to come in here with a pie is delicious cuz that's happened before mind you mm-hmm pi has snuck up on me in my face face hole all right wish boat $5.00 Kyle ashamed of you for not going to e3 this year haha JK seriously tho next year maybe PS 5 and Xbox scarlet potentially obviously e3 conflicted with my travels in Asia this year III is an event I've only attended once and I didn't have the greatest experience the first time around because I feel like you really need to know industry contacts in the gaming field in order to make the most of that event to get the inside scoop and to be able to cut all the lines that you know the plebs have to wait in so I don't know it'll it remains to be seen whether or not to go to an e3 anytime soon but any any interest in e3 oh I mean I'm it's never been something that I rejected outright based on what it is itself it's always just been way too close to Computex and I I know how jet lag is for me coming back from Asia and I don't want to deal with anything in the in the week after I get back right that's that involves especially when you're jet-lagged yeah it's just I just I just know how it is and so I don't wanna deal with it if he 3 was like 2 weeks plus after Computex would or it might be in the future depending on how scheduling goes then I'd be totally opening open to go yeah yeah well let me know if you do okay alright next up we have one from Tom's brooms bits Tom Justino region cronic I'll let Paul but Paul pull one hair you just won't let that go will you Tom gosh by the way Kylie rap song was awesome listened to it like 10 times in a row I want it on Spotify PS Paul htpc thanks me I don't know it bikes may mean something in Norwegian speaking Norwegian chronic that's Norwegian krone a language thank you for the compliments on the rap song and I don't think it'll ever be on Spotify though I did briefly think about the HTPC early is your HDTV video Paul that's coming I need to figure out what stuff with with the wood can someone find out the date 11 months ago where Paul was first asked on this show about htpc my actual HTTP see video is 11 months ago okay so it's probably it was probably the show right that once part 2 coming they probably didn't waste any time so almost a year now well you know it's the most highly anticipated Paul's Hardware video you'll never watch building up he used to master he's a master at content releasing and scheduling so stay tuned for that all right next up we have Jason twelve dollars and thirty four cents one two three four which case would you suggest for a mid to high end build eighty seven hundred K Coolermaster H 500m or a fractal design define our six or a cougar Panzer thanks guys man those are all great cases those are all really good and it's really gonna boil down to which one you think looks the best maybe which one has the most airflow if you are trying to split hairs with the temperatures that can be achieved with either case and the price point that fits you I haven't messed with the Cougar Panzer myself I would say if you're very concerned about access to 3.5 inch drives then the H 500 M is probably not the best choice because this there's this power supply cover here and it's right in front of the cage oh yeah and it's the opposite side it splits yeah yeah did you mention that your review - I didn't really review it I just saw but yeah I'm reviewing it right now and that particular configuration sucks yeah that was like my big problem with it was the hard drive configuration so yeah obviously the rs6 has tons of great has a really good layout for a lot of three and a half inch drives cougar panther I've never worked with either but I've heard it's a really good case I think Jays worked with it before and he's spoken highly of it so yeah good luck good luck on your choice park may five dollars and sixty nine cents PC build challenge for Kyle speed build a PC without using one sexual innuendo aka Mission Impossible well that would be pretty difficult for me but I think I think I would have to like bring bring like my mom into the room just to make sure that I didn't because because I wouldn't say it in front my mom you know it'd just be too should be too awkward that'd be hard what do you be so hard you things would get stiff pretty quickly I can't erection of the penis okay thank you for that everyone thank you for that question Dixon software solutions $20 I am a lucky 8086 Kay giveaway winner congratulations one day to AMD for nineteen fifty X I would want to build a highly overclocked ITX system what case do you recommend to maximize Brady or capacity but minimize size hoping for at least two 360s in a single graphics card what how all right Mini ITX look - 360 360 right that's a full site that's a 48 how is it because your 360s are gonna be in the front and in the top those are the practical locations for that I don't know any like reasonably sized small mini ITX case that has two 360 rad mounts on it you wouldn't even need to 360 rads maybe two Fermoy TX cuz you're only gonna have one GPU yeah you're not gonna need more than two 240s at the very most I mean there's there is an argument to like if you're going water cooling to go with like max radiator size because you get a lot of heat dissipation and you can run your you can run your fans really slow because ITX though yeah why do you need two three six i would exist i would say based on what you want consider micro ATX or even full-size ATX because you know you're not gonna get something that small with radiators that big at least to my knowledge the most you can do with a mini ITX case is two to four TS i think yeah for the most part with like a nano defined an OS or something like that which are you plenty maybe take a look at the bent x evolved shift i think that's a unique mini ITX case it has some decent radiator support in there it's different yeah it'll stand out a little bit for you I think the shift X is even you has more water effects but it is fairly larger yeah but the footprint is the same if you're stacking it vertically so that might be something that interests you yeah but if if you're really interested in that in that and having that radiator capacity like just just look at micro ATX cases yeah because you might as well like you you limit yourself a little bit when you're going 8 ITX completely and you might have more flexibility just going a little bit bigger yeah but Congrats again on the win that's it yeah it's all CPU awesome job all right at a 13 dollars and 37 cents from not mentioned no name I'm guessing it's MB 67 because he usually donates 13 dollars and 37 cents you're probably right so thank you MB 67 maybe 67 right I think it's a seven Thank You MB kinda liked your coverage of Computex and the part one japan vlog as well keep up the great work Cheers thank you I worked hard on the copy text coverage and the Japan vlog was very fun very fun to make them glad you guys enjoyed watching it cuz I enjoyed making it Brendan Gallagher $10 Kyle which are you wearing also with the 1050 TI be perfectly fine for 720p gaming I am wearing a shirt that someone randomly gave me at Computex when we were at we might have been at an industry party oh no I was on the show floor someone just handed me the shirt it might have been a vendor like here take this does this look like a familiar logo to you at all at first I was like like a cougar is it cougar I don't know this is the Cougar logo guys it says blink blink great blink that says blinker okay I never noticed that so I guess blink blink I'm not sure I can't remember who gave me this shirt but I've been wearing it ever since it fits me really well and you know it's black I usually wear black so yeah it's it's a nice shirt it's got a cool design of a tiger cheetah panther it's a cougar Jaguar cougar somebody somebody cat animal just blinking cougar but thank you and then also with a 1050 t I'd be perfectly fine for 720p King yes it absolutely would you can even do 1080 high settings for most games tenor brush grabber brochure Burt Tanner $5 per brush i per brush I even like mentions how to phonetically say I love you guys gamers Nexus wifey sauce and self processing - any thoughts on the in win Mars fans thank you all for that you do or well thank you for all that you do the in win Mars fans those are the ones that have the flexible articulating arms right and the ones you consider the position in your case however you want am i right yes okay I actually thought those are really cool and I was surprised that I didn't see them at Computex again this year because are they already released I saw them last year I feel like right yeah they were there they were definitely there last year but I haven't seen anyone used them I haven't seen them in anyone anyone's case I haven't seen reviews I don't ever even caught wind that they had actually been released and it doesn't look like I'm clicking on shopping on Google within win Mars fan I don't see them there so yeah I don't know I really like the idea the concept behind them because I mean yeah sometimes you just want to position a fan exactly where you want to position it it makes sense there are certain hot spots in a build that the conventional fan mounting spots don't always hit that you know they're not always optimally placed you can buy them directly from the in wind official east or they're $60 each holy shit nevermind yeah no that's never mind anyway um Regis that's absurd $60 worth fan just do it yourself at that point I mean they had a good thing going where like they actually have the fan mount it mounts to a regular fan mount in your case and then you can articulate it I think that's a great clever way to do it but $60 there's no way maybe it's just $60 on their website than any retailers that sell it significant no I mean I was looking for retailers I didn't really see it currently we I don't know what that said such a quick pop up the Morrow's fan price $59 no way Wow oh my girl buzz way too much I'm sorry zero reviews someone should go review this and say it's too expensive but that's the fan though you can mom I got a little arm you can articulate it alright so I'm gonna have you very kindly cut off all donations oh yeah it's really here now because there's already so many more that we have to go through many and I need to get home at some point before I crash yeah Vignesh bala again Vignesh Cygnus be six dollars and six to brahmani yeah Paul really likes the challenge not super money him oh yeah he yeah Balasubramanyam Vignesh bella super number you Hey nice Oh super nominee oh cool great job with my name promise to show off my build on the next pick my PC awesome by the way how can I remove case logos printed on steel oh good luck with that yeah you're gonna need some crazy modification tools and experience the only way I would know is if the steel is already like brushed and then you could like sand it in the same direction as the brushing but not then that's really challenging to do without just like we're anything over it or something right yeah good luck maybe look up some forum posts perhaps to help you with that Douglas Park Ned jr. $5 just to be fair here you go Kyle thank you I appreciate your pity donation thank you very much Douglas it is much appreciated Aaron Baker $5 always enjoy and look forward to this every Tuesday I'm out of beer so I'm having a Texas drink of Dr Pepper with Texas mesquite crown Royale Cheers I've never had crown and dr. pepper before but I think it would make sense I feel like dr. pepper is not too far off from coke and cranberry al is delicious and as well with most things so thanks for the idea I'll try that sometime and I'm glad that we are your favorite thing about Tuesdays that is gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside $20 from someone it just says someone GPU sag makes the air flow smoother duh obviously I mean you should know that kind of Joker doesn't know that so I usually tell people you don't even need fans in your system just sag the shit out of your GPU VPS customs hey it's Brian five dollars good to see you gentlemen back on air clink cheers to you sir thank you very much for the donation you didn't have to do that thank you Brian well struggling youtubers here um bazinga X $5 your vlog Kyle overseas wife gets to hit you with another pie soon no she does not we had a firm talk about the first pie and we ensure that it won't pop up again but who knows she could completely backstab me San Diego land five dollars hope to see you at the first ever PC gaming room at San Diego comic-con this year hey you we were talking to your friend we're told we have 24 hours to respond yes actually are any of you guys going to comic-con San Diego comic-con next month let us know because Paul and I might keyword might have an opportunity to go this year which would be my first time and I don't know six or seven years I never even went directly to comic-con I went to like a place next door to comic country we went to nerd HQ HQ right so that's that's the closest I've ever been to like we were there but we weren't actually there true like I didn't get to see Adam Savage walking around in his costume oh yeah and all the other great things it has a tradition at Comic Con he just was figuring out who Adam Savage is I hope I hope this year he goes this Jamie [Laughter] they did that on the show once oh did they yeah heads masks made so so this may potentially be mine Paul's very first official comic-con experience would love to see you guys there if you're there and if we decide to go but thank you very much sand Eagle and hopefully we'll see you there if we decide to go as well you would be our ticket in essentially let me call the work together on that we'll follow up with you shortly Jason $5 I'm crying here thanks guys I plan on pulling that awful build apart and rebuilding it maybe I'll submit after pictures cheers and skull yeah dude please let us know or send send me some some images of the new and improved build if you guys don't don't remember he was the last bill that we looked at for pin my PC the one that had the crazy sag and the cables everywhere in half a 932 I would love to see some after pictures that would be great that would be a perfect candidate for a before and after type of event so thank you very much for that Jason appreciate a man David Lapsley $5 doing my first everything doing my first everything PC build custom loop custom cable making case modding and liquid metal dam dam that's gonna be like a hundred hour of project so Godspeed good luck to you on all that especially the custom cable making that's the only part that scares me I have this list but it's fun though I'm sure it's gonna be it's it's so worth if you have the time for it if you have the time it's fun and the patients invitations time and patience good luck tweeted some images of the finished product to let me see it Jerald $10 gentleman I needed to share my excitement wife gave me her blessing to build a new rig yes the wife blessing is always great in grad school hit that complete purchase button a few moments ago congratulations cheers to you both for being my resources for research oh thank you very much gerald Thank You gerald thank you to your white here's to you sir letting you enjoy nice things in life Go Go wife Tom's brims myths 50 Norwegian kroner Vikes me leads NACA my new life that's my native language Latvian PS better hair than pie ever feeling what you just said is not his native language but it was a good attempt no what's this what's the flat lying across the devel mean it means the unity you stretch it out so it sleeve fix bikes me lion snake my lights me my Nikhil I do you live bike smile eat snack a mile maybe line I feel bad cuz I have a vague idea of how horrible the pronunciation actually was but Latvian Latvian I've never met anyone like never attempted to speak Latvian before so this is a very I don't even know what Latvian sounds like so I couldn't even begin to imagine those words that's why weird so bad it's a good explanation arrogant Americans and ruch warrior Schreyer five Canadians help a bro out and look at Vignesh as PC in ger blink and stuff PS replaced hyphens with slashes we're supposed to look at this piece yes Vignesh vignette she done it at my side he dried it on your side but like but why he was 76 minutes ago right I remember him well he wants his PC to be reviewed on pip my PC oh we're all right so I'm gonna do that now or should we do it you you you or the arbitrator of fit my PC let's see it or so I think this is it this is this popped up immediately after just typing in the little code that they gave confused it's a thermal take thermaltake case then we'll take with that a Poseidon that's an issues beside in card game at Cal just take a quick look take a quick look he does after all have the most badass name that we've seen on the show so far so I guess that warrants a quick look at his PC there that must be it there's no way that's a coincidence that some other random person's PC showed up biggie biggie yeah it's gotta be big that's all thing McNish all right you suckered us in so it looks pretty clean man it's actually really clean yeah see LG freesync mother have you tweeted this to me for as a net emojis he's got stats for his desk I wouldn't all be top and the can't legs from Ikea good lord LG 35 for its freesync monitor microphone kits a mixer phantom mechanical keyboard of course they're m65 Pro RGB Mouse Verizon 7 2,700 x asus strix r9 fury which is a good combo for that free sync monitor g.skill ripjaws 534 66 megahertz memory as rock X 470 motherboard master SLI AC samsung 512 gig SSD and of course our arms m50x power supply then we'll take core p3 T G case it's a nice build yeah super clean and looks like you spent a lot of money on the system I would spend I like the money I like the white cable extensions I would potentially upgrade your speaker's next okay that does kind of stand out I mean since we get the full desk look everything else is so premium and high quality and then the speakers look like they're like 1995 or something that's true but who knows they could be super it could be sleepers they can be sleeper speakers the PC itself though is looking super clean yeah I mean I was about to say from this side the the tubing here looks like it's stretched but but when you look at it fairness there it's actually not angle is that right very clean on your GPU Cairo and your 24 pin I like the exposed cables coming out of the the power supply itself as well so yeah super clean build there I'd almost like to see a bit more splash of red throughout the build instead of just the card like I don't know I think some like ready we like some red rip just five would look really nice just purely aesthetic at this point because everything else is perfect yeah so I'm just nitpicking and stuff but overall really nice setup big yeah other than that I mean it's really the whole desk setup that that we need to upgrade that to match the look of the PC I think yeah very nice very nice clean set linen Vignesh and then finally we have septic line five Canadian I sell my RX 480 for 300 Canadian for a gtx 1070 TI for a 1440 monitor or wait for next gen so lower prices ideally sooner than better sooner the better but should i wait right now yes trade your 484 a 1070 TI yeah prices are dropping the high prices of AM D GPUs are dropping a little bit more slowly than they than the Nvidia ones so you're getting a lot more performance out of a 1070 TI which is essentially a GTX 1080 like at reference blocks basically oh Clark that sheet so yeah I think that's pretty solid advice if you can if you can get that straight across I would definitely do that upgrade and yeah sooner the better is probably also a good a good solution there yeah that's all we have for donations thank you guys so much see it we're gonna do a twitch raid Johnson's after we do Johnson's which we're doing right now all right I have two jobs mark stay positive stay positive thank you very much Mac Dennis Johnson for you Dennis from Florida thank you for getting the you thumb screw that the desk met Quentin Tarantino picked up a bit with gray logo black tri-blend t-shirt Thank You Johnson to you Quentin John from Illinois got the pub glass 20 ounce pop glass as well as the stainless steel bottle bottle opener thank you and Johnson to you John Garrett Garrett bit wit words in a circle pint glass thank you very much Garrett and finally we have one for Michael I think that's a double Johnson was it possible you and Michael did you have a Michael or no no I might have Merck earlier maybe not it's very common name easy-easy is a common I revoke my double Johnson to you Michael it's a single Johnson Mike ice at race trade you for a single Johnson but thank you for picking up an evolution t-shirt and a CPU cooler and flash bios full-color mug sit thank you thank you everyone for being so amazing indeed and like Paul said we do have a twitch raid that we would like you to all completely overtake this twitch channel which is tech deals te CH deals de ALS just how it's spelled tech deals this is curated by our good friend and moderator cell thank you again self for moderating this episode of awesome hardware as always tech deals currently has 50 people watching his stream not too bad but let's make that 500 why don't we and blow his effing socks off it's a good idea Kyle so let's do that and in the meantime if any you guys want to do time stamps for my half of the show I'd be very much appreciated if you could drop that in in the comments and I'll pin your comment and stuffin tell you how much I love you and then also like the video and get subscribing all that to both of our channels and we will be back with another show next week because our forever long hiatus is finally over yeah and we we are now returning to its desk well back some more whoo thanks guys bye I click on this thing
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