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let's dive into our first segment on that beautiful transition exactly starting with hot and heavy hardware hey that's quite appropriate kind of weather conditions right now this it's perfect that's a good transition yeah hey redeemed now NZXT is launching a new series digital power supply line lineup this is an article from hexxus in fact they've already launched it I think today was was the big drop these units are not by NZXT in house per se they're actually using food excuse me they're using see sonic focus plus goals units at their core and the and so NZXT is building upon the sonic units which is good by the way I want to point that out see sonic makes really good quality power supplies for my experience I even like the reviews on Johnny guru usually praise most things that see sonic puts out the gas that are in this category so and what NZXT has done they've come in and they've added a couple nifty features for monitoring and controlling your power usage which is actually pretty handy so it's I don't know if it's the first of its kind maybe the first of its kind that I'm aware of but it's pretty nifty you've got digital digital digital digital readout never just zoom on it's definitely not first there's okay but there's definitely no monitor on the unit itself as far as I can tell but rather through the cam software so it integrates Duke and there's a little mini USB port if you look where some of the other major connectors are where you can plug into your motherboard right there and yep there it is and and then you can get real-time stats through camp so there's a PM bus architecture they've added a Texas Instruments DSP and like I mentioned USB connectivity so it's it's actually pretty cool 500 watts 650 watts and 850 watts are all available all of these units fall under an 80 plus gold certification and the the TI DSP chip is what gives you the real-time wattage monitoring and it also gives you the wattage across all three of the 12-volt rails independently so you can kind of see how each each rail is behaving and you've also got real-time uptime and internal temperature which is pretty handy you can also check the the wattage draw the power draw of your CPU independent from your GPU CPU and GPU so this is actually pretty handy if you're this would be a good like benchmarking power supply so you've got the plug-in like a kilowatt every time or something like that obviously there's off the roam kilowatts but I don't know I might throw this in do like a test bench or something like that it seems pretty handy the year there's an independence someone in chat asked where the USB plugs in usually it goes into a USB 2.0 head around I have seen ones because like it's just a whistle a micro plug on there right yeah so yeah definitely you could use any USB cable so you can you can in theory route that out and plug it into a USB port on the on an actual USB port on your motherboard true but usually it ships with like a cable that plugs in USB 2.0 right a little block um there's also independent over current protection for the 12-volt outputs to the motherboard CPU and GPU it's fully modular you guys probably saw that from the pictures 10 year warranty which is pretty solid the fan is it operates at zero decibels or zero rpm under 100 watts of load so if you're idling or you're playing a really lightweight game or something like that power supply is probably gonna be dead silent involved a lot of systems will idle down in the 60 to 80 watt range yes and then if you're looking for pricing I only have the great British pounds right here I didn't actually do the conversion but the 500 watt is gonna be 115 great British pounds the 650 watt at 130 pounds and the 850 at 139 or 149 pounds oh I thought you were looking it up right now no I was looking at the email front - wait what the email from one there is an email or mail from NZXT that went out oh right family about that anyway if he sauce took a look at that for me so 182 because I feel like the 650 watt is what a lot of people would be going for it's kind of a nice sweet spot for a single GPU which is 182 translates to 182 us that's not per se the MSRP in the US I'm just converting it on Google what the Great British Pound conversion is to USD so it says I have an 82 right here but it could be you know 179 169 I'm not sure but cool I think I think it's time that power supply's became the least bit interesting you know oh it's a good good job in txt the key 500 is 125 dollars the e 650 is 140 dollars oh wow and the e8 50 is 150 oh thank you thank you for looking that up all the 650 is actually 140 then as opposed to the 180 something dollars that I looked up with a conversion on Google so definitely a bit more reasonable there it's still on the expensive side though so I don't like a power supply is something that people will often get by with spending in the 40 to 70 or maybe 80 dollar range because you can get a like what are these rated are they gold 80 plus cold oh oh no yes the hey lady to their existing level their existing line of power supplies is frogs they're all gold and amazing gold so gold gold good anyone the expenses it could be this was probably like if you removed all the digital features and stuff all the all the cool stuff that we just talked about maybe it's a $90 to $100 power supply for the 650 watt and so you have to consider you know is the extra 40 bucks if we're talking about the 650 watt unit worth the additional monitoring features select the cables are all black monitoring control cables are black that's a good student observation yes okay Oh what no no here are just unplug the camera oh when did that happen looks like great yeah Oh at least you caught it wasn't going to happen yeah thank you our viewership just shot up 20% after after our faces went dark it says something today we can still hear a third not at 90 black night in the United laughs it's funny that we've had it's a good thing I you know mention some bitch and I saw him flop down right there and as like I thought did I hear something I did give a pup disclaimer at the beginning of this video of the stream so you he just laid down right on the power cord for the camera he really knows how to get our attention all right cool so that's that's the the E Series from NZXT moving on to another article from hexxus Texas really is uh is where it's at when over a lot of hardware launches and information stuff so thanks to those guys for writing these articles thermal tape or no thermal right sorry thermal right launched a new thread Ripper cooler for tr4 called the Silver Arrow kind of like that name sounds fun hmm I'm very powerful and capable it's got a large contact surface so it's looking to be full a HS coverage and and it's got a hundred deep pipes a lot of heat pipes it's got eight eight nickel-plated six millimeter heat pipes holy moly and like I said the large contact surface it's gonna be good for either thread Ripper or epic CPUs both using the same socket 144 I'm sorry hundred and forty millimeter twin tower so you'll see it's a single 140 million little of millimeter fan sandwiched between two fairly substantial heat sinks or fin arrays and then all those heat pipes so they're permeating those okay pretty pretty sweet it's kind of interesting colored fan - it's not necessarily just a basic red but like uh looks like a cherry red or I maybe it's just I remember the old fantex air coolers yeah yeah it does remind me of a slightly reminds me that those were those the entire cooler was a specific color right yeah it definitely is reminiscent of that it's got the brackets for for mounting the fan on to the heatsink yeah got a similar design there it also comes with its own thermal paste which is known to be fairly high quality it's good and a decent looking screwdriver but that's that's one thing that I always noted from thermal thermal right coolers is that they always include like a really good magnetic tip full-sized screwdriver which I mean most of us already have something like that but it's just really a really nice accessory ISTEP that's actually the screwdriver that I still use till this day for everything for ninety percent of my building is the one that I got out of there macho macho zero cooler I don't know if that's the right cooler but it's completely fanless that's completely family passive but amazing amazing accessory there they're just doing things thermo right there eight you know better than those fisher-price grade accessories they're not gonna treat you they're more wrong that would that that's yeah damn you're not fired today I don't even I'm gonna try following that up someone get some ice for this boy turn he's hot turn thermo left hey you quit while you were ahead yeah I should stop all right so that's fun moving on we've got an article from overclocked 3d net about another yet hot and heavy piece of hardware this is the car or sire instead of like a southern person of course they are carbide spec zero 6 RG buddy all right but it doesn't need to be RGB they're also selling a non RGB version of it that's thoughtful yeah it's a budget ATX chassis the specs are as follows up to get up up to ATX motherboard support the most budget cases don't support a ATX tempered-glass side panel looks like it's got some like you know a fairly thick black bezel around it but ful full tempered glass it doesn't like stop at the power supply shroud like some bunch of cases do so that's kind of cool the RGB model has a 3-3 switch controller so you can switch between different colors different modes etc and then there's the non RGB which obviously omits that controller on the front panel you've got seven expansion slots six 120 millimeter fan mounts two of which are included on either model and pretty decent radiator support for for a case like this 240 at the top 360 at the front no word as to whether or not those can be concurrently installed but that is nice to have those options you've got for two and a half inch drive mounts and two more standard three and a half inch mounts power supply shroud going across the entire depth of the case which I like not a fan of like half power supply routes just doesn't look right and then the pricing here is seventy nine and eighty nine us excuse me Oh reppin up a storm today for the non RGB and RGB variants respectively so 79 for non RGB 89 for the RGB and it looks like the only RGB implementation here is on the front panel it's kind of got this interesting sort of abstract design we there's a little swoop a little a little Nike check that whole thing there we just do it just RGB it so that it looks like some bottom with some bottom led to firing up the bottom reminds me of something it's a little yeah that's the bottom that's that's the sound that that thing would make okay make a noise okay some of there's an underside look underbelly was there's a cool dust filter - that's good alright it looks good inside like yeah I don't know if the outside is my style personally but functionally it looks pretty good where is it in taking air from looks like the top and bottom maybe something similar to like H for 40 or s340 Oh see 3d approves oc3 deivam yep okay it's got this stamp of approval how video see guys gonna watch the tongue we could've watched um to the video oh yeah I like time you know I met Tom at copy text for the first time ever oh yeah I thought I'd run into a lot sooner and our journeys here in in tech but he's really cool did he give you the mic did he give you the old blob and squidge he'll applaud that's great yes okay everyone go watch Tom's video on this you can see more of it do it all right so let's the spec o 6rg be our last spotting for hot and heavy hardware it's again from overclocked 3d this is about two gigabyte or SB 450 boards that have been spotted online hey hey that you might be interested in if you have or planning to buy a second gen rise and cpu because that's what this is for there's the ATX or SB 450 Pro which is pictured right there and it has most of the features you would expect on an X 470 board it's pretty feature-rich for what it is for being the more economical of the two chipsets supporting second gen risin then we've got beefier drm heat sinks on here then then then previous like beef be 350 boards that you've seen eleven phase power for the vrm dual m dot two slots with heat sinks which I'm sure there will be some sort of article or video from gamers Nexus as to whether or not these these these are helpful or hurtful I look forward to it there should be hat keeping and hat should be controller cool yeah cool that's me they'd be a good segment name cool and half right I don't know should do that there's there's potential there somewhere six SATA six ports 6g ports of course single there's a single PCIe by 16 3.0 slot at the top that's reinforced with that sort of metallic complaining with metal with metal so metal the second slot is physically Gen 3 by 4 but shares lanes with the board's top and got two slot so be aware of that and then both of those are wired directly to AMD's aim for SOC so they're not running through the be 450 chipset however the second m2 slot shares for pcie 2.0 lanes with the board's final or bottom PCIe by 16 slot and both of those are connected and wired through the be 450 chipset so there you go the rear i/o has two USB 3.1 gen2 ports two of them you know we haven't seen we haven't seen many boards up until this point with two USB 3.1 gen2 ports on the rear oh yeah I believe that's one of the updates for the chips yes yes yes yes yes of this six USB 3.1 gen2 VI and HDMI outputs and a single Gigabit Ethernet port not sure if it's Intel or killer I hope it's Intel integrated IO shield that's kind of part of the the cover there that's nice and I like that that's becoming more of a trend yeah absolutely that that's becoming more and more of a nuisance having to install the i/o shield and you know what my problem is I sometimes forget to remove the i/o shield when I'm disassembling a system and I put the motherboard back in the box but then the i/o shield still in the case and then like POW and then six months later I get to I get that I pull the board out because I need it I'm like where's i/o shield oh it's in like a mesh if I see that I forgot about six months ago Jim Barry didn't shame in that Hawkins it is if you're looking for something reverse of pizza good if so I am Barry not my wife should be home soon though I'm not sure she's home seems a little early for poppers you shush all right so if you're looking for something that's a little bit more a little bit smaller normally I yell at and berate them you know then you'd also be yelling my ears or Galligan and hundreds of hundreds of poor innocent I don't really like them that's I just physically be totally better no I don't actions speak louder than words don't those dogs know it no switches off doggy mode emojis right now then puppy mostly YouTube can't do that dog you know YouTube does you don't just type some dog dog dog dog dog a lot of people same dog can you copy paste the dog emoji from twitch doesn't work okay moving on here the Auris be 450m is something you might be interested in if you're looking for some of the same features and maybe design language of the be 450 pro but you want to go micro a to you micro it's cheaper it's got smaller vrm heat sinks that cover fewer components in the pro so you might not get every last bit of overclocking potential but that you find on the pro board it still seems okay the single oh there's a single M not to slot with pj e 3.0 by for connectivity with the board's top PCIe by 16 slot having full PCIe gen3 by 16 connectivity while the second by 16 slot features pcie 3.0 by four connectivity which is shared with the single m dot 2 slot sure you got all of that yeah this is expected to launch this month alongside the Rison 320 300 X and risin 520 500 X processor so we are very much looking forward to all this new hardware coming out options new school and thus concludes hot and heavy hardware let's let's take a gander at some more hot and heavy hardware wasn't picked my PC oh yeah what a smooth transition heck heck - the freakin yes the PCs your word you know because some of these things some some of these systems that were looking at today look a little heavy you just can't stop some of them are running a little hot for the PCs it seems like marinas really a continuation of the segment but look there's dogs in YouTube now fountain you oh wow okay wow they heard the call they answered the call dogs in YouTube check kids will show you there's at least three different dog emojis we're not safe it wasn't you know wolf Ella I think that is well I didn't realize there were so many different pup emojis and there's a hot dog apparently I learn something new every day you just have to press windows I get it a hot dog haha perfect windows clean de rien to bring up the emoji list Windows key and period yeah you've never done that what what is this like common knowledge that we're all born with is this instinctual and I just missed the boat here no I just did this work for twitch two things you have to learn over time what this is this is just windows these are windows icons so Windows 10 thing I have never ever seen this or heard of it well now you know my love there's even more when you need a new segment of code like long and prosper you needed a new segment called like Windows 10 sucks but here are some hacks that's the whole segment max all right now it's time so I'll do full full confession even though it's slightly embarrassing of why is I like the reason I was kind of excited when I knew that or when I found that out is because I got irritated cuz like if you ever want to do if I ever want to do an emoji in a tweet you know which it makes it fun right put your little emoji in there makes makes more fun it's all Twitter maybe it's my phone but sometimes it's easier just like I met the computer and let's type it out yeah and I was like there's got to be a wet away with Windows right so do it and like and you looked it up turns out I feel like it I don't know if I looked it up specifically or if I if it is everybody just encountered that dilemma and like then you know also sort of coincidentally at about the same time discovered that um there you go yeah Oh Windows keep period okay before you know Joe enjoy your enhanced textual communication so that's someone's but what so I'm do it at this point yep it's also fun too because there's some that are there in Windows that don't work like there's a ninja cat you try to do the ninja cat really it like in on Android it just appears as like the ninja emoji and the cat emoji separately which is kind of weird wait how do you get rid of it oh you there's an X yeah hey it works ninja cat did that's the ninja cat right yeah but no that's the ninja cat the black ninja right wouldn't make a ninja turtle looks like turtle what do you I don't know what that it looks so good old it looks it's a sad grandma it's a crying Ninja Turtle - good grandpa ninja cat okay of course right here - crying ninja turtle face emoji bearded bearded crying ninja turtle face yeah I feel like appropriate in many many situations like my mom right now just discovering new tech features on her phone okay alright let's let's get into this right now pip my PC Francisco he tweeted me some pictures of his rig just in case you haven't seen this haha that leads me to believe the system's inside of an in case I have one which it totally is becoming relevance achieved look how little putty in it is little booty on little petty little poonanny and I don't know diminutive do small me too yes wayney so okay it's a rising system mm-hmm looks like we've got maybe eight or sixteen things of brandy a--that's-- Corsair Vengeance led he didn't provide spec so we're gonna have to get some on some of this stuff yeah there's definitely a founders edition card in here it's a looks like it those six pin the minutes of GTX 1060 dip that's a 6 pin yeah doesn't the doesn't the stock 1070 of a single 8-pin there's a 6-pin 1070 is a steep in a business six-minute venture that's there looks like a six but like oh maybe it's Nathan it might be an apron okay what's Nathan then it's probably a 1070 because I think the six I think 1060 is a 6-pin know it's always missing my fingers and ten sides you gotta be a 1070 year yes mystery solved I almost didn't see the SLI figure because he's got the cap on it still but okay very nice system so I'm gonna guess maybe a rising seven chip if you're pairing it with the 1070 yeah because it's also the rise and led to race which which one has the LEDs the wraith RGB late max wraith max I think wraith max which is well she came with what the 1800 x is that way or did you have to buy the special one that had the wraith max i forget which one it came with yeah it's lost on me Kinsella review sample script from an AMD so we have the retail so a practical just a practical poignant like I can appreciate the aesthetic touches of the aftermarket power supply cables um however like those probably cost you good eighty bucks I mean you've got you've got a pen 24 pin and this year so probably I felt something in my foot and I look down and here I just booked it here's here's really causing he's making this a more exciting show this time so I just I feel weird that you invested in that and you still got a stock cooler it's not a terrible stock cooler it's it's good for a stock cooler but it is still a stock cooler and there's definitely improvements that could be made to that so that's just a thought I think I'm okay with the stock cooler because it's in the end case okay I feel like he doesn't have many great options with that much space and there's lots of great options I mean Shores low profile but I mean ones that are gonna be quieter and perform better than that cooler I've got one sure there are but ya know I'm a sucker for the reef for the reef coolers I think they're great I think they're great I think that's and to me that's a selling point of horizon CPU is that it comes with a great cooler yeah is this the oh no that's that's a slightly NHL 12s Lowepro this let me see they never put the picture of the actual core in the box which always bothers me not to I they don't have to sell their products they just make them really good I'm gonna buy it either way I just want to see what it looks like cares about marketing or making it an attractive color or putting a picture of it on the box it's just they just like Noctua it's good weed really there's there's some slight changes that could probably improve theirs over I feel like walked into knock to his office and you saw a bunch of like engineers there where's your marketing team we are where's your engineering team it's just us okay so yeah this is this is a really nice this is this is a really nice cooler yes it's got a slim fan here but you could probably even well I guess you couldn't mount one on top but let's see is this doing it looks like it's pushing air through it towards the top that's a good cooler though I've never actually used this one is this for a particular project that yep coming up no I was just having using it with the mini ITX build in there but I think it's slightly too large for that sure although I still might double check because now that I've got everything in there I'm kind of like hmm but what I wanted to do was use this because you can also mount a fan on top of this if you if you're not as concerned about the height so you can do a full size header than 20 millimeter fan so you can put a good fan on this and then it becomes a very if you put a fan on top does it conflict with the clip here or no I think it comes with other clips okay boxy you can use for 120 people not that this is a bad fan it's just it's just a slim fan so it's not gonna play as effective in it we're getting very distracted here but that's okay my point is before I would drop the cash on those extensions I would improve the CPU cooler first that's that's just what I would do doing stuff pretty good stuff okay Mickey that's why we don't unbox things life is also known but apart from that so your system looks great there's a bit of color clash with the cables and the card and the fans on the bottom but if that's your style go for it I would consider maybe something in there to prop up the GPU a little bit cuz the sag there is standing out to me okay yeah yeah it's like a picture and you got a fan right there but I bet you could like insert something there that would just kind of hold it up a little bit bent room heavy all yeah thank you sweet sweet bill ma'am 1017 Francisco for sending that over next is Keith McCray high-five 4690k EVGA GeForce 962 gig gigabyte z97 ex motherboard 16 gigs of kingston hyperx ddr3 memory quickly cxm 50 power spot fractal mesh if I see oh there it is there it is okay wait whoa doc Intel cooler see total opposite story with an Intel stock cooler these things are noisy they don't perform all that great at all it's so small and you have such a nice system look look all right here's where I would use Paul's exact argument that he just left us which is why did you buy the really really nice extensions damn they look really nice and what was that cool as a theme maybe maybe a theme that we don't expect going into this but I have the exact same argument that Paul did now I'm totally on Paul's side like see the Wraith is much better much much better than this and you have an overclocked CPU here the 40 4690k I don't know man I would I would have spent the money on the cooler first maybe there's this it's a situational thing and you have a reason for it but now that everything else about your system looks pretty spot-on yeah it looks so quiet damn fucking cooler let's just stand it out yeah that's a total eyesore Aslan would be perfect if you had a an aftermarket cooler there not that I can take my type as of this for too long but I could I could you could retie this cable here your exhaust fan in the back yes that could be tidied up slightly doesn't that just get you the gap of get a different cooler yeah it's worth it dabble with some some overclocking a little bit I'm also wondering if those are the correct DIMM slots because I usually see that she slots two and four are the primary ones if you only have two sticks installed often it doesn't know not all boards up in it's the first first and third or the second and fourth okay yeah she was just putting it out there this is replied to his by Andrew crane okay so oh so he updated the cooler 1080 and new CPU cooler in the mail and then he of course their BX 950 boot drive and one turbine okay so all right so he's so this is obviously apparently still a bit of work in progress since he is currently in process of upgrading the GPU and a new CPU cooler so okay because like with that Keith but did he post a picture of it down below well this is somebody replying to him hello I see who also has a mesh if I see okay okay Keith we might not feature you again on the show but we just some some updated pictures once you get those word updated hardware is in there next up we got Zack it's his third PC he's ever built first rigid tubing zack tactless it's the first time he's ever done rigid tubing so let's go to mainly say Zack back exactly my name is zak bagans stop - that's a cool last name I've got a 2600 X there's a sparse rigid tubing yeah overclocked 24.3 on asus crosshair hero 6 with 16 gigs of g.skill tread @zr gb ram at 3000 megahertz in an Rx bag at 56 very nice my storage is an m dot 2 samsung 256 gig and he's got a 3 terabyte mechanical hard drive so oh wow he's got a model block on there too I don't see mini Vega 56 is around because I feel like no one has bought them for anything cuz I haven't really been but mining and stuff super accessible yeah um but damn this is really nice this is I mean that's a you've got a model block up on your CPU on your 2600 X and you've got a water block on your on your graphics card and on the Vegas at 56 I hope this beautiful looking system is only on the floor temporarily oh cool it's time to be temporary oops does that would suck to put all this effort into building a hard-line cooling system and then just keep it on this before you can't escape Paul people he will he will notice and he will find out and he will point it out it's you if you leave your system on the floor which I wholeheartedly agree with he's just much more vocal than I am but ok moving back to the system for your first hard line tubing job I'll be honest we can tell but we commend you for the effort because it's a very intimidating task very intimidating undertaking that that you've gone ahead with and you know what it's functional and you're not getting any leaks I'm sure your temperatures are fantastic but if we are talking pet my PC here I would like to straighten out some of these beds yeah just to maybe make them a bit more like all the vertical bends I like to see them parallel with the edges of the case with the front and back ear case and then all the top the ones going laterally I'd like to see those parallel with the floor perpendicular to those vertical tubes it's just kind of like you know your basic rigid to bending 101 I guess and keep keep doing things parallel or perpendicular I mean brain you can you can do an angle but it has to be intentional and right here it's just that looking quite as intentional yeah like I I compared this to like the you know when you're talking to a pilot about a landing like any landing that you can walk away from is a good one like this is obviously a functional water cooling loop it's not leaking so especially for a first time you know right there you go yeah I like the lighting though it looks pretty cool with that get a really nice look at everything so yeah and then maybe some custom sleeves some of the sling extensions might be nice yeah that would that would top things off sure are from that though I like the drain here at the bottom - yeah that makes it really easy if you want to drain the system and then try try your hand at redoing some of those two bends so thanks Zack all right thank you very much Zack distant aqus Nixon we have John John has an i-5 4945 93.3 here it's cooler master hyper 212 Evo z97 XQ fatality from asrock 16 gigs of g.skill ripjaws 1600 megahertz ddr3 GeForce GTX 1066 gig 240 gig SSD 3 terabyte hard drive a 500 watt power supply Zalman z9 neo black case Zalman case Ivan asked myself why what are you helps users Elma guess what compels one to buy is every time I've like handled a Zalman case I've always been like I don't like this case yeah like yeah me too and just I don't know it's a it's got to be the price I'm not really been impressed by one well it's kind of cool that makes that pattern makes a Z but yeah there's lots of there's lots of them and you tried lots of them that I've ever heard I'm sure maybe some of them are okay sure so yeah you got the Z for Zelman so that's we can appreciate that and we also have a red and blue color scheme looks like the only believe you have here is with the LEDs you got two blue LED fans at the top those are the clear stripper keel fans that Paul and I usually is write off as a no-no and you've got some blue LED on your graphics card which I think you should just go all red band and maybe maybe that SSD the only piece of hardware that's actually blue here had is what convinced you or inspired you to make it semi blue here but I think you can spray paint that SSD red or hide it somewhere else in the case that's not visible and just go all red here that's what I would do again if you like if you love the red and blue then keep it I don't I don't mind the red in the blue no no I I mean I agree with you about the fans I don't like the top fans right but that's my thing if he's swapping out the fans you might as well make him right but I kind of like the two-tone color like black and then you got red and red and blue I don't think they clash or anything like that I think you could swap out those top fans with some blue LED fans that look kind of like the red LED fan on the that you got on the back and I think it would still work I'm just saying I feel like if you like the red and the blue I don't think I don't think I think for me what it is is if I'm gonna do a mishmash of colors than I want I want both of them to have equal share equal parts Hardware representation like I don't want one color to just be represented by LEDs alone and of course he does have a blue SSD is what I feel like I predicted yourself no of course and he does have a blue SSD but I wasn't finished but I want to see more than just one component in that color maybe some blue memory sticks to contrast the red accents on your motherboard I think might look pretty cool if you're really gonna own it and and go with that that color combo okay maybe consider modding some of the fans so that you have red LEDs but then maybe you spray-paint the the frames blue or maybe the corners of the frames blue or something like that just just just planting some seeds planting some thoughts here ketchup and mustard cables though as well word I definitely need to be dealt with but thank you John yep I'm gonna switch over to J hall and I'm going to try to preemptively stop talking right now oh yeah mrs. Paul's hardware is home the pups have caught on to that fact and Paul is now going to tranquilize both of them yeah he's he's pulling up oh it's a it's a blow blow dart gun that he's got interesting oh oh and there goes hero it's just an or he's freaking out because she sees fellow heroes falling down yeah you see oh there's a second one he needs a little extra little extra there's no second arrow yeah inori's Nori's next and down alright that's how it's done folks that is how you dog own what okay what yes is it Alma game no what is that I like darkness hello darkness my old friend is that who do we have to thank for that the same person no see no my name's last week and that we thanks the show before Computex yes I can just forget his name but cool russian imperial stouts surly Brewing Company with the Cerritos Cerebus Cerebus is a three-bean yes sir Cerberus Cerberus Cerberus Cerberus Asus made a graphics card called the Cerberus it was that sense wtn good card alright cool um so last last dude last due to the day is Jay Hall and let's quickly talk about his break he's got a he said how about am i how about my kids how about my kids system Phenom to 950 question mark to buy two gigs of ddr3 1600 Radeon 64-54 gigs of course air force another question wire cutter and 20 gig SSD under hdds and thermal take 600 watt power supply alright let's take a look here Wow okay I'm sure it's fine for a kids PC in terms of the performance but it's got to be noisy with that stock cooler that stock AMD cooler is the loudest loudest cooler period I've ever ever encountered yeah in my opinion that specific one cuz AMD's have a lot of stock coolers from that era but that one in particular is a freaking jet engine this isn't that Asus is blue phase yeah yep Mountain blah blah blah Picasso had a blue was it called the blue phase the blue blue the blue period I don't even know I'm not I'm not artsy and Asus had one of those historic I'm QR ACS had one of those too yeah like it'd be interesting to do a video on like the different trends that motherboard manufacturers or any manufacturers and it's a blue period the blue period castles blue period just like asus asus had a blue period back in like the p67 days yeah 67 z77 and then they have a gold period which no one approved oh yeah how's the period we don't talk about any more I'm glad that's over at least the blue is a little bit more tasteful okay my sister will take power supply there were lots of these this is a good power supply is it cables look hideous but they sure do in the day in Paris there was lots of crappy power spikes going around this one this one was a solid long-term use nice okay so apart from that I mean I don't know man there's you can't do anything about this system aesthetically and you can't really do much about mobile management in this case II there's no options there's nowhere to put the cables just just burn everything we don't really have a picture of the outside much but I can child by this drive mounting system that there is no behind the hard drive behind the motherboard tray anything here yeah so so yeah just scrap it put the side panel back on that's that's my recommendation for this side panel back on and then burn it that will probably block some of the no noise from that stock and a cooler just a little bit yes yep that's that's really all I hope we can give you right now Jaeho thank you guys so much for submitting those and thus concludes good my PC yeah let's quickly blaze through some news articles here because damn we are a little suddenly short on time I know and now just been rambling around my hope that happened okay Intel and AMD talent Wars heat up according to the WCC f10 this is a pretty quick article here you can read it more extensively if you want the details I'm gonna summarize really quick this is basically talking about the talent war is that that's been going on between Intel and AMD which started in September I'm sorry which started it in and November yeah it's a really weird mashup which started in November of 2016 when Intel hired a really talented engineer named Martin Ashton to be the VP of core and visual computing group he was responsible for the initial workings of what would what will eventually become Intel's full-blown GPU efforts but then a year later Intel also stole from AMD Roger Kaduri oh yeah remember that no it's now it's huge news and Chris hook both from Team red Intel just snagged him they hooked it up while also coaching Tesla's Jim Keller and bringing back Tom Forsythe AMD was undoubtedly not too thrilled about that so they struck back Andy strikes back by by getting Robert Gama who's their chief HR and he stole Martin Ashton from Intel so the guy that and this kind of worked out from Martin Ashton because Aston was you know hired to this huge undertaking it Intel working their GPU thing the GPU segment but then Raja kind of just got slipped in there and according to the article Raja kind of took precedent and sort of got a lot of the attention for the GPU efforts from Intel and so Ashton kind of felt sidelined which was a perfect opportunity for AMD to come in I can't sad that mesh tab swooped in from Intel and now it's getting fiery folks and then Intel fired back it's just a back and forth Intel cleaned house snatching up some serious AMD talent alexander liya Chev the skete so seriously talented that I can't pronounce their name which is an engineer Jason Gunderson also an engineer right Rena Krishna did two three an AI engineer in Joseph fucka which was formerly at AMD not at the time they hired him but he used to work at AMD so Intel is clearly very serious about their GPU efforts and this talent war is is just it's it's serious business the talent that you have of your company means a lot these people are getting paid very well to do what they do and bringing their expertise their knowledge to lead teams into developing amazing hardware that's going to be cutting edge and competitive against these companies rivals so pretty soon we might be seeing Intel joining the big two when it comes to GPU manufacturers Nvidia and AMD by the way the reason why AMD didn't snag up anyone from Nvidia is because during this time for the last couple of years Nvidia stock has been doing really well and a lot of the execs and engineers high up in the chain of command at Nvidia are sitting pretty they don't they're not looking for other options they're happy because in videos just killing it I've been happy with their existing options yeah stock options exactly the stock options are phenom at Nvidia so that's that's why Intel sort of targeted one top finance ton yep those crank the AC up a few notches um all right so that's all I want to say it's you know two big boys on the big playground duking it out should be a shell don't have to tell me twice this next article is from globe news wire it's one of the headlines in the title of this broadcast it's about the new industry standard that's been introduced for connecting next gen VR headsets to PCs and other devices this is yes / turd everywhere is on the hardware subreddit it was on wucf tech a bunch of other articles publications so basically there's a there's a new industry consortium of sorts that's led by the folks at Nvidia oculus valve AMD and Microsoft which all of them this consortium introduced today the virtual link specification it's an open industry standard that enables next-gen VR headset to connect with PCs and other devices using a single high bandwidth USB type-c connector instead of a range of cords just simulating the experience we need the air for anyone who hasn't had the privilege of trying out an H MD or VR headset yet that's exactly what it's like you're not what six missing much yeah you you've been there you just you just saw it right why they don't just any bother play that clip back for people rather than spending the exorbitant amounts of money right you see those lines at CES and Computex for all those VR demos it's like not just just bringing rain hmm stacking the Santa I'm sure would be ah so this is USB see a single USB type-c connector it also just reminds us of the versatility of type C and just the fact that it can be so high bandwidth and have carries so many different specifications and standardizations instead of just having like a bunch of cords that you have to plug in remember my my HTC vive has like three or four things you got to plug in like one or two USB you got HDMI and then another one for power whereas USB can do that USB type-c can do that it can it can carry power as well in fact this spec actually supports up to 27 watts of power in addition to delivering for high-speed HBR 3 DisplayPort lanes which are scalable for future needs a USB 3.1 data channel for supporting high resolution cameras and sensors we're gonna need those cameras for for room scaling from room tracking augmented reality and so forth this is all through a single USB type-c connection ladies and gentleman and it's been adopted by as a standardization spec that we will be seeing for for future generations of VR HMDs I think it's cool there's more penguins than then than the White House Thunderball right is it yeah I mean it's sounds like it it needs to be Thunderbolt isn't necessarily wait what's the bandwidth the bandwidth actually is not listed here's crappy article from globe news wire doesn't say doesn't say the actual bandwidth like I said for high-speed HBR 3 DisplayPort lanes and a USB 3.1 data Channel but there's no actual spec for the actual bandwidth at any rate this is gonna be pretty sweet because I feel like it's also gonna allow HMDs to plug into smaller devices more mobile maybe portable devices like laptops and notebooks when it only needs a single USB type-c connector as opposed to like having like four or five plugs that you need to put in to a single device yes this is good and things are good and gonna bolt this 40 gigabit for a second I believe I believe this is like 42 or 42 just I'm just barely barely edging out Thunderbolt which makes sense because I feel like the demands here are pretty pretty high for VR carrying that signal for the updated resolutions and stuff now the next gen of headsets will require and support next article here is from hot hardware Intel is is to present soldered CPUs on August 1st going up to 5.5 gigahertz this is a rumour Rumour okay but it's it's a rumor that's been circulated in plenty of areas online and seems to be like a good rumor if that makes any sense a semi trusting trustworthy rumor but again a rumor so nitrogen core family is allegedly launching this month it's gonna compete with second gen right and of course based on previous leaks and rumors some more rumors here the three processors we know about include the core I $9.99 hundred K with eight cores and 16 threads that would the only chip so far that's been that we've been made aware of party 2.4 42.4 okay point for going back to the old Wow sorry cuz they by the way 32.4 gigabits per second for video video bandwidth and send gigabits per second for USB 3 ok data bandwidth right so ok thank you for clearing that up so we've got them the i9 quarry 999 hundred K which will be the first time in Intel main stream CPU family history where we have an i-9 with 8 cores let alone hyper-threading with 16 threads the i7 9700 k which would be probably the more direct successor to the 8700 k with 6 cores and twelve threads probably just gets a nice basin boost clock up great I believe that the core i5 9600 K with six cores and six threads so there have been anonymous sources who have signed NDA's with Intel claiming that multiple samples have reached five point five gigahertz while overclocked I'm not sure exactly how trustworthy someone who breaks an NDA is but if they're right probably not very trustworthy but if they're right that's pretty cool we don't really know which samples that they tested are actually able to hit those clock speeds but 5.5 gigahertz it's pretty stellar now obviously that higher clock speed would bring in a lot more heat and sources the same anonymous sources are also saying that these new chips will feature solder heat spreaders in in in place of the the standard crappy thermal interface material that intel has faced so much criticism for in the past so gamers Nexus did it they did it they are they realize Rupp ting the industry like Intel look you're you're throwing performance away and they spoke the right language of Hey money money and Intel's listening that's all you have to say to Intel yeah money that's how you get their attention good job Steve and GN team so yeah if they're using their own if they're ditching the crappy Tim and they're you know using summer heat spreaders that would explain how they're able to partially explain how they're able to hit those higher overclocks the other you know aspect would be the refinement of the architecture and stuff like that it's hard to say which skews again we hit five point five if the rumors proved to be true anyway even so um yeah look forward to nitrogen more CPUs yay more content by the way for those in chat hurt art confused gamers Nexus I mean they're not the only ones I was kind of joking they're for gamers Nexus among others Hamptons quite a few different tests where they deal it'd install processors derp Bauer's probably probably also should be named here because you can deal with them you can remove the crappy thermal paste you can just put better thermal pastes and get better temperatures and thus better performance or they've done a bunch of testing with liquid metal and that kind of thing but yeah that the the statement I remember Steve making in one of the videos that I was watching was like Intel like you're throwing performance away you're making a product that can perform at X value and then you're doing this thing to it that makes it crappier than it is like spends these little bit amount of investments to your bomb cost or whatever that improves that and suddenly you'll have a better more competitive products make sense yeah this is they do spins I do I mean I don't know I don't even know how much money they spend developing processors like that but there's a lot of work that goes into that it seems kind of ridiculous to just take this one little part of manufacturing involved with okay heat spreader and thermal says easy and like cheap improve that process and then you yeah I agree entirely okay so that's fun fun facts I mean tell potentially launching nitrogen for CPU soon let's move on to our next article really quick PC sales are growing for the first time in six years this articles from the verge I also verified this on some other publications so yeah there's a couple Mart marketing research firms Gartner and IDC who both agree that PC market has shown growth in the second quarter of this year they have slightly different percentage increases that they're attributing this to so there's 2.7 percent increase for for IDC but Gardner's claiming it sleep in a one point four percent increase the difference is because I DC's data includes Chromebooks but it excludes Windows tablets that include devices with detachable keyboards for example the surface pro whereas Gardiner's data is kind of the opposite include it includes windows-based tablets as pcs and it excludes Chromebooks or any non windows-based tablet so they have different ideas of how they define a PC I guess that's what it boils down to Chromebooks appeared to be powering some of the PC growth last year but Gardner's data shows that it's also from regular desktop PCs and Macs not just Android tablets and Chromebooks so I guess our community has something to do with this growth is what I'm what I'm hearing what I'm getting out of this the first year every year we're seeing the first year-over-year PC shipment growth since the first quarter of 2012 it's been six years since we've seen this kind of trend windows10 business pcs so in corporate environments and workstation environments are powering some of this growth in the second quarter of 2018 which is offset by declining shipments in the consumer market there's an analyst of Gartner that predicts that PC momentum in the business segment however will start declining in about two years once once all these businesses have finished switching over to Windows 10 because you know they're formerly either on Windows 7 or Windows XP god forbid Windows Vista those businesses probably aren't in business anymore yeah so um so yeah all in all takeaway here is that PC is is looking good and we're on a bit of that tremendous growth but the first sign of growth in quite some time and the big five the big five in the PC business includes HP Lenovo Dell Apple and Acer who all saw growth in this area and then there's a sort of soulstone last one the soul stone I don't know it Thanks the soulstone is this is this like a Lord of the Rings reference that I'm gonna get that I'm not picking up is it Infinity Ward Marvel Avengers Thanos Avengers yeah did you see it yes I have never did I haven't seen it okay that's fine I've been really bad about my movies like I haven't seen the last Jedi I haven't seen solo I haven't seen Black Panther and I haven't seen Avengers infinity war like I live under a rock I've been living under a rock for the last several months so it's it's not okay thank you for making me feel relevant right I'm sorry right around the time Black Panther came out we saw Black Panther and then we kind of went on a kick going back and re watching Marvel Cinematic Universe movies that we had missed mm-hmm so we kind of caught up with that and that means huh oh yeah still haven't seen and and and the wasp oh yeah that's another one that excuse me it's humble it's a you're gonna pipe things there were six there's six stones never might continue okay relevance achieved yes some stone could also be a World of Warcraft II port okay and then the last article of today is quickly from the verge once again Amazon about Amazon crashing on prime day yeah really quick those of you who were trying to participate or actually got to participate in prime day might be aware that the site was down for a lot of us particularly in the LA New York and Pacific Northwest area Pacific Northwest is where Seattle is located which is where Amazon is based so that makes sense we experienced the biggest outages so Paul and I obviously live in New York or LA and it was down for for me wasn't down for you did you even check who's down for me for a good eight hours and then for about two hours I could not log on from about 12:05 Frank they started it 12:00 at noon so 12:05 to like 2 p.m. it just was not working at all that's an endless loops this is like this also could be like a std distribution okay the most sexually active oh yeah they were sexually active right nope no wonder it no wonder those two coasts are the most populated to engaging in unprotected sex but at the very least the silver lining here is that even though the Amazon site was down for millions of people yesterday we've still got to meet the dogs of Amazon ah and that's really really really really what we're looking at at the finish line here folks so yeah Amazon does have a pretty adorable way of telling you that their site is down and you can't buy shit by posting these lovely pictures of all the dogs some of the dogs that Amazon employees Oh that are owned by Amazon employees so very very adorable it's very adorable way to say it's more Doug you are front bags very adorable way like tags like Danks what Dad oh I like caravans better hey man is what is man great movie to watch nature alright every part is a new boss I think my favorite scene is with Tyrone in the car okay so anyway that's all for tech news that's all for the show we have donations and store and you guys have most graciously upon us so the Gilmore $10 is there a worthwhile RGB air cooler for my new AMD 2600 X or should I just find an RGB fan to throw on my hyper 212 plus I like the Craig sees a h7 Claude loo me yes that's a really good cooler if you're looking for some RGB Flair decently priced and decent performance as well would be more than adequate for a 2600 a cooler master I can't keep the product names down but they've they've had some recent launches that are I can't air cooler with our GB fans and stuff like that yeah but maybe check those out too I like some of the large EB controllers that they come with because if your motherboard doesn't natively support like the addressable ones Toller that maybe comes along with it true that's helpful yep David Harvey $5 build or buy and mass built build is funner yeah and more fun more fun more flexible more flexible and more serviceable in case something goes wrong it's hard to service like one of those WD NASA's if if it just I will say the nice thing about buying can be that the little control boards that they use are like very purpose-built or they're specifically chosen to be able to kind of just handle the tasks of the NASS so you can potentially get better like power usage from that mm-hmm here Oh what are you doing so maybe unless you want to buy like a workstation board or something like that that has those high rated components for 24/7 operation he looks like he's anxious or something are you okay boy sometimes he gets nervous okay new and five dollars and thank you both without Kyle's how to build a PC and Paul's first five things videos my current rig would not exist you guys are out some Thank You Luke yeah you're awesome yeah and those two videos go really well like go hand-in-hand you know you know I've had to build a PC video too you could use it at school first know the first five things mega man's clearly but that's that's clearly what he's saying I should I should do remake er and every day did that money but the 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now or something now that it's supported but I don't know I could have missed it or maybe and you even linked the article he even linked an article from every day which publication that said yeah it's definitely gonna be 139 but I don't know I'm glad prime day worked out better for you that it did for me and I'm also glad that you enjoyed the livestream I loved a lot of fun doing it if you guys haven't checked out the livestream it's still fairly relevant go watch that live Jim it's about 45 minutes it's not tremendously long but I point out a lot of really good deals on new egg because Amazon was down the time and the new egg deals unlike prime they are going on for the next three days so you can still pick up a lot of those really good deals 16 gig kit of ddr4 for like 130 bucks I was lying from team which isn't like like a bad brand by any means so I'm some good stuff on there go check it out thanks I'm beat except there they're called team group and I think that's redundant okay you would face Butler two thousand seven dollars do you know if there is an angled USB 3.1 front panel mobo connector slash adapter I've been looking for one the last few days and I haven't found one I'm sure Paul has just the answer for you as he's been looking up into that corner of his his garage this is the only one I have found what does that mean it's Lee Utley oh yeah so it's me there you go bye Lee Anne Lee this is a 45 centimeter port note 46 centimeters right 5 centimeter yeah one so I use this when I when I upgraded arctic air pure panther and a hydrogen and a USB 3.1 to that but I found this I bought two of them and then like you can't buy them anymore really well at least the link that I added to this one they're not available oh so there's a there's a specific length limit for these I think it's 60 centimeters you can't go longer than that which is why you're not seeing them quite as frequently because that reposition data point in the case that can actually reach where the header might be on your motherboard sure so yeah sixty centimeters is as long as they get this one if you want to try to find it go look at my video on arctic panther casemod where I added USB 3.1 to that and it's linked in that description or PW - I see zero one NH 4 5 it's the model this is a model here so if you can find that then maybe you can buy one thanks to the yes cool I've got to that's why I have one month you could sell anyone feel like you have it's mine alright thanks makes that info Paul pup Shepherd $5 wags wags silly puppies and family oh never mind never mind plug check me out if you're into stuff he's getting more audacious with every episode I'm starting to scare me go check out up Shepherd at your own risk fellas ok Philip frames still Bram sounds like a puppy look for fans is a great porn name awesome name was like Richard hey dick Rams ok $10 mr. Kyle did you ever try out that mysterious USB thumb drive you got in the mail mail time a while back and unleash Skynet upon the world no but that's a potential video that I'm considering doing because it's really kind of bogus once I realized what it was and what it does it's kind of scamming it's very scammy not to me but to the customer that's appealing to anyway I might do a video on it thanks for bringing it up thank you for the donation as well mr. Harvey comma David $10 what to upgrade first 2600 X at 4.1 gigahertz H 100 IV to be 350 tomahawk 4x4 gig a kit of 3200 mega mega Hertz LP X 500 gig 860 Evo 2 terabyte Barracuda 1070 I armor in a dark base 700 I won the case from you Kyle hey congratulations again on that case win um damn what to upgrade first I would say you're good honestly you're fine yeah don't yeah becomes any tonight damn you're good to go you're good man nothing upgrade nothing like yeah there's a bit faster systems and more powerful systems to get there but unless you're doing a bunch of video rendering or something like that that would actually take advantage of like a 16 core 1950 X or something which would require you to upgrade your entire platforms like much more expensive motherboard instead like you got you have a nice setup you consider some investments in the aesthetics exactly it may be example extension kit or something yep look look to cosmetics cuz your hardware is perfect frosted moon tenkan a deer's I don't have a question just felt like donating you the man thank you festive in you the man Alex longed long good night long night $10 love both yoga's videos question any idea on what sides are speed DVR for megahertz I could safely without anything blowing up achieved with an i7 8700 K with an Asus the C 370 a mojo I'm sure he meant mobile I don't think you need to worry about what Ram speeds will potentially blow up your system I think with Intel memory speed doesn't matter white as much as it does with Rison yeah so don't spend too much more money if it's like 5 maybe 10 bucks extra to buy like the way faster kit go for it but don't spend like anything more than that your sweet spot that I would aim for be as sick a 16 gig 3200 speed memory yeah in that range yeah but if you if you have to settle for like 29 33 or something your performance isn't really gonna matter it's not gonna change much if you can save 20 bucks from it then I would say go for that but yeah thank you very much for the duration Alex and Roush wire five Canadians a guys was wondering if you could help my RAM has been stable at 29 33 XMP but destiny to softlocks then fully freezes how can I fix that timings I'm curious as to whether or not your memories overclocked at 29 Oh does he mean it's stock if he if he says XMP afterwards not necessarily right I'm wondering if he's running it using XMP values then it's supposed to run 29 33 right let's put a sugar on that then maybe your CPU is overclocked then it's unstable unstable it's also also just one of those things with overclocks that kind of sucks sometimes is you can do something that is because technically 29:33 even if your memory is rated for that that's still an overclock because the actual rated speeds for I think you're on Rison are 2400 I believe 21 33 and 2400 first gen yeah yeah depending on what generation you have in stuff so you know it's not guaranteed to work so you can be stable in 90% of the stuffs that you do but then you can have that one thing that you sure that that locks up if it's consistent then yeah it's probably something to do with your overclock update your bios loosening up your timings could be a way to potentially deal with that true you know just back them off by a point or two at a time and see if it situation repeats itself yeah other than that you know you might have to you might have to set up a new a secondary BIOS setting that you switch to when you play destiny - specifically sure annoying as that might be and and if you're really trying to get to the bottom of you really don't know what's causing that crash then I would run everything stock and then start overclocking one component at a time yeah up overclock your cpu and then play for a week if nothing happens then you know it's not your CPU overclock also and you just keep going Andrew I think one of these packages back here is from you we're doing male time time on my half noise so stick around for that okay Louise bonus gusano circa $5 when should we expect next gen of i7 intel chips should I upgrade from a 7700 K to an 87 hundred K or should I wait I would say wait and you should be expecting the next wave of intel core CPUs to be this month if the rumors are true as we mentioned earlier on the show seems like in the next month or two yeah yeah so I I would I would go for an 8 core if you're if you're gonna upgrade if you're really set on upgrading how the latest and greatest I would say from a 7700 K go with like the 9900 K or whatever it's called the i9 get some 8 core action in there if you're sticking to Intel but don't bother upgrading to an 80 700 K wait till the next gen exact times that ya pages contain just a - this I know is cooling an are 1600 on an X 370 I think he meant rise in 16 oh yeah rise in 1600 on an x3 70 gigabyte gaining 3 with a 1080 3,000 megahertz ram which processor would you recommend risin 560 very much cooler does it says he's cooling of our 1600 which I assume means a rise in the 1600 let's read that he said x3 seventies motherboard the GTX tennety okay you're talking about okay I think he means what cooler because it says cooling instead sits coolly yeah okay but cooler would you recommend I mean there's so many good budget options I would say stick with air you don't need liquid for a rise of five chip the the cry Rick h7 that Paul mentioned earlier is a good is a good option that looks nice too if you have like a tempered glass side panel or something like that you don't need to get the quad bloomie though that's a little bit more expensive you want the RGB you can just get the regular h7 looks really good nice appoint and stuff cooler master also has some pretty good budget options huh you can go I don't know raising five chip doesn't really need that much cooling you probably have a 65 watt TVP chip if I'm guessing oh yeah you do if it's a 1600 nother six in their next so yeah I would say get not cool aura you twelve escrow max get the cooler you think look is good and has good reviews so frozen durian recommends that that's probably a good choice budget reviews and aesthetics look at those three things and decide what's good for you because there are so many options wishbone five dollars no liquid metal on your $10,000 PC d lid thread thread Ripper etc and on your GPUs there is actually liquid metal on the 70 979 ATX e in my $10,000 PC unless she's talking to you Paul wait this might be my second no liquid metal on your $10,000 PC dealin thread Ripper etcetera and on your GPUs oh I think he's talking to you because you just had a you've been working on Riptide turns about turner Part D lighting is really fairly pointless there Bauer has kind of shown that I mean yes there's some small benefit to be achieved and that net not really GPUs I did aftermarket coolers on liquid metal is all right look if it's speaking practically honestly I don't have any liquid metal here I did not have any level to put on so that wasn't even like an option that arose needs more liquid metal and it wasn't an important enough thing for me to arrange before hands you're not gonna need it to get because I copy us I could just order some liquid metal or something like that honestly for me it was a long-term usage situation so that's sort of came down to for me if you're talking about arctic panther arctic panther has a deal it in 79 60 X in it and that I just used some coolermaster nano fluid because upgrading the thermal paste still gives them improved performance going to look of metal gives more improved performance but it also introduces the possibility of like applying it wrong you know because it's conductive in certain areas and so I just opted to go with the thermal paste because I want to make sure that if I do end up running it for a couple years I'm not concerned about long-term use good so that's that's really what a conductor thank you very much we spoon Johnny wool in $99.98 did shut up Baldwin's did you sighs you said Charlie's Zubin and what nay stood I mean um that's something I just love to do my half of the show so hurry up cat sure yeah two more what's up guys how do you feel about mixing brands within a built for example a motherboard and GPU doesn't matter don't care it's totally fine totally fine the only the only time I would specifically say stick to the same brand and so if you're really concerned about lighting oh and you want to make sure that like your graphics card lights and your motherboard lights can all be synced up with the same application even in that situation there's some like like there's there's the companies that don't make motherboards and GPUs that still make the software like NZXT or Corsair or Coolermaster for example that can still sometimes take control of those even if you have disparate brands for those products but that's the only time I would say yeah make sure other than that it doesn't matter you can mix and match yeah Aventis ten dollars will my build last for the next few years or do I need to upgrade with a PCI card click there list calico no malware coming in here wait I typed it into the URL and it does the fantasies travel boom and boom any problems with what Lewis's question Oh will my build lasts for the next few years 7700 K I would wait and see what the ninth gen core processors have to offer this month before you pull the trigger on that and a GT X 1080 yes that will last you a long time absolutely app so freely wow you have a lot of SST severe why do you have four X s DS gotta have the storage alright sure I mean 10 terabytes of SSD story alright cool yeah I think your your GPU is great there might be a new GPU around the corner soon I don't know and then CPU yeah you can get more than four cores and eight threads easily Jana keep should hold out for the ninth gen that's gonna do it for my half of the show people know it's not how this Johnson's really quick dammit I have one Johnson yeah don't we all be ready for my Johnson ready for you Johnson's for bearded axe Thank You bearded actor got a two glass English pub glass sets these same glasses that we're drinking from today they're really good noise they're really good for drinking no no no no no II uh you can drink fluid out of them bitter Dex gets a double Johnson so just be awesome hardware a swordfight black tri-blend t-shirt thank you very much that was the only Johnson I have to Correa's have one Johnson and keep it as God is attending so that's gonna do it for my half guys don't go anywhere Paul's half is about to start you come in there stay where you are on Twitch or if you're watching on YouTube follow the link in my description and feel free to do timestamps for my half that would be much appreciated I'll pinion and stuff it'll be great we'll have the party and also I'm gonna be and we're gonna be at Comic Con this weekend if you're gonna be at Comic Con we we're gonna have a fan meetup on Saturday at 4 o'clock Saturday at 4 p.m. if you're going to comic-con San Diego will be there we'll tweet about it at the the land area yes computers alright ok bye bye for now